Forgot to mention which attempt this was indeed :P I dropped it for a long time and after I came back to it this was the 8th attempt, I think I did around 10-15 attempts before so that would make it about 20 :)
Challenge idea: You and one AI from each race vs 6x INSANE AI from each race. As in: You and 1x Terran or Protoss or Zerg INSANE AI vs 6x INSANE Terran or Protoss or ZERG AI. The catch is: you can only play supportive. You can't attack unless you partner AI does so and you only attack where they are attacking. So no Divide and Conquer.
Suggestion to try this challenge with Big Game Hunter mode where resources shouldn’t be a problem and you actually have to kill the AIs while defending.
Wow!! I thought it would be closer to 100 attempts but I guess after all the other challenges you have done, you kind of get into a groove and learn the A.I.'s behaviors and reactions. Still BRILLIANT feat of skill, strategy, and speed! Great Job as always!
I'd love to see you play through the Nightmare campaign(s). It's way more difficult than the brutal difficulty. I'm gonna watch anything you post tho :)
As an og starcraft player who no longer has a pc to play, I would love to watch you do a play through of the campaign so I can enjoy. Love the content, keep it up!
I think it's probably actually easier to recover from mistakes in a pro tournament than in this challenge. It requires a long period of high concentration.
I would love to see you play through the Nightmare campaign and analyze the unit progression choices you make! Will watch anything you put out though, appreciate the content!
Same. YT recommended one of these challenges and since then I'm HOOKED on his vids, incredibly joyful, fun and overall enjoyable content, even tho I suck at this game so much - I have many great talents, multitasking is NOT one of them. Anyway, Thermy has become one of my favourite content creators here.
PiG did 1v10 Hard, which us easier than 1v10 Elite which Therm has already done, which is easier than this 1v7 Insane Cheater. The interesting thing about the new challenge is that it's a speed run, so you have you figure out how soon you can move out and win.
uThermal when live-casting-while-playing: a smile that spreads joy to all uThermal when trying to break a record without live-casting: deadly glare that petrifies victims instantly
Hey thermy! Thanks for the vids. You often mention during these that "you would be killed by an A-move mega-army", but it's really hard to visualise because you make it look easy. I would LOVE to see an edited compilation of some of the armies that killed you. Just the last 20-30 seconds of each time they killed you, edited over benny hill music 🤣
@@taylordcraig That was 1 vs 10 Elite AI which he already beat. The Elite AIs play fairly, but this chalenge is vs insane AIs which get extra free resources and have map hacks. And 1 vs 7 insane AIs is harder than 1 vs 10 Elite AIs, so it's not surprising he already did the latter.
all the best to you! very entertaining, refreshing and good-mood content, been watching since ~50k subs and have no SC background (apart from some very oldschool IEM knowledge haha) always looking forward to your cheeses and challenges, hope you break 300k+ next year! to the stars!!!
It's so funny because when I watch all of your other videos you're always so cheerful and happy and then i see your game face when you're not commentating and it's super serious. I find it funny ha. great video Marc!
I believe there are AI tournaments out there where developers program an AI and have them battle it out in sc2 (think AlphaStar levels of AI). I think if you could somehow play against those that would be a super entertaining series!
There are videos of harstem fighting them and he won like the first or second match he did. The AIs are really not that smart, they just use micro tricks and patterns that should counter most things but you can still abuse their weaknesses, which is way harder with Alphastar because he actually adapts kind of.
Nice video ! As you mentionned some other challenges, I did myself one inwhich I won vs Elite AI with every unit of the game (monobattle) requiring also to macro build till 200/200 and 5 bases as a minimum. Only Exceptions are of course medivacs, obs and any unit with no attack at all (you can make an AI gg with mines, infestor or phenixes, no need to destroy all buildings, there is a trick) I'm obviously not a pro or ex-pro gamer so this challenge is good enough for me, but you could adapt it your way I guess x) some are quite hard (mass sentry was actually way harder than I thought cause no dps) Anyway keep it up :) Cheers
Never so you that concentrated on such a high level. Almost like an air trafic controller in a very tense situation. Amazing! Keep up the spirit next year!
Was disapointed at first that it wasn't one of the usual challenge videos today. But as I've been watching every new vid I decided to give it a try and oh boy, I was on the edge of my seat for 40 minutes ;) what an amazing vid, thanks marc! Keep em coming
These videos are always so fun! It would be cool to try this with some more advanced AI's (like in the direction of AlphaStar, although IDK if there's anything like that that exists) to see if you can find clever ways to exploit those. Would also be cool to see how your strategy evolves over the iterations attempts for these challenges, although that would be a lot more editing work!
This is just so ridiculous, just unbelievable. The stress in this I can feel. LOOK AT THOSE ARMIES he is defending against! ONE mistake and you are done! Unreal and amazing job!
Love this video~ for future AI challenge, I'd recommend either the nightmare difficulty campaign or COOP solos on some of the harder mutations (there is an arcade map that lets you play on maxed out commanders if you don't have them in regular game). There is actually list of solo challenges and some of those are insanely hard.
One challenge i think would be interesting would be 2v6 w/ random easy ai as ally and they must have at least 1 mining base at alive throughout the game. the idea of having a partner that literally exists to handicap you might make for an interesting dynamic and early game turtling gets a lot harder when you have to defend further from your main.
i really like this idea, but. I think this would be to punishing and not fun. There isn't enough resources to defend a handicap and yourself. You would need to aggro and kill off enemies early to find resources, but that is nearly impossibile against multiple AI unless your pre-scripted. Not saying its impossible, but I feel like the wiggle room is very tiny, and might be nearly inhumane to actually perform. Just like the TAS speedruns.
Used to love watching you in your Pro games, I've always been a terran loyal, because a filthy casual only has brainpower to know one faction at a time, but I remember you being one of the fun players to watch - it's a TREAT that you host a channel for us man! Cheers!
Congrats! Definitely would love to see more AI challenges in the future. Have you tried 1v7 Elite AIs to see if the early game strategy is different? I've noticed it's easier to bug out the cheater AIs since they have maphack. Maybe if that's too easy you could add unit limitations like you mentioned.
I got a video series idea suggestion, you can make 3 gold players play against 2 diamond players for example. Just make different leagues play against one another, but in other quantities. Like 2 master players, against 5 bronze players or so.
14:53 when I first played starcraft I noticed when you have SUVs with Crystal in hand and u put them in a gas building they lose those crystals they had
this is so darn impressiv, and i don't think a Protoss could do this, i'm not sure about Zerg, maybe, but i'd love to see Zerg vs 7 AI or Protoss vs 7 AI
Vikings only deal bonus damage to terran buildings, they are the only ones to have a mechanical tag. Zerg Structures are biological, Protoss structures are actually neither, they are just tagged as Armored - Structure. (in coop mode they do have a mechanical tag so SCVs can repair protoss structures there)
Goddamn this saga has been gold. I wonder if these runs are possible with Protoss or even Zerg? Terran has enough defensive units and structures so I'm doubting the capabilities of the other races... good luck!
around the year 2001, at approx 9 years old, I installed sc + brood wars and D2LoD on my parent's Dell pc.. I still remember booting up the AOL connection and going into BW. I had absolutely no clue how to play, got destroyed in my first match, and never played again lmao I started D2LoD since my friend played it and I never did go back to try sc again
Hey Lad - had a thought, yeah? have the 1 v 7, but set 3 of the random AIs to 'rush' and 4 to 'macro' build (or some similar sort of arrangement) -- you wouldn't know which races were out there, if the rushers were close to you or not, etc. Now, on this one you said something about 'zergs tend to rush more' so in that line of thinking the number of zergs may well come close to the number of 'rush' builds... but i think it'd still be challenging enough to 'know' you have 2-3 rushers and 4-5 sitting back going for air dominance or w/e, and yet still don't know how many of which race, which ones are rushing, etc. Might be riot, would definitely take skill
At 4:22 did you shoot the critter that was on the left and it went flying in the air to the top middle lol. or did a ling come over or something and just happen to be next to the critter?
Forgot to mention which attempt this was indeed :P I dropped it for a long time and after I came back to it this was the 8th attempt, I think I did around 10-15 attempts before so that would make it about 20 :)
Challenge idea: You and one AI from each race vs 6x INSANE AI from each race. As in:
You and 1x Terran or Protoss or Zerg INSANE AI vs 6x INSANE Terran or Protoss or ZERG AI.
The catch is: you can only play supportive. You can't attack unless you partner AI does so and you only attack where they are attacking. So no Divide and Conquer.
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Suggestion to try this challenge with Big Game Hunter mode where resources shouldn’t be a problem and you actually have to kill the AIs while defending.
ONLY TWENTY?!? WHAT
Wow!! I thought it would be closer to 100 attempts but I guess after all the other challenges you have done, you kind of get into a groove and learn the A.I.'s behaviors and reactions. Still BRILLIANT feat of skill, strategy, and speed! Great Job as always!
I'd really love to see a compilation of the most disgusting armies that have killed you in the challenge.
I would love a nuke compliation
Yesss let's see a fail compilation!
I haven ruined the 666.
I'd love to see you play through the Nightmare campaign(s). It's way more difficult than the brutal difficulty. I'm gonna watch anything you post tho :)
Even if he doesn't I just want to see thermy do the All in mission nightmare. That is the most challenging one.
Please do a series like this
As an og starcraft player who no longer has a pc to play, I would love to watch you do a play through of the campaign so I can enjoy. Love the content, keep it up!
Protoss vs 7 insane AI
Solo coop on the harder difficulties will be fun too
Love how uthermal looks more serious about this than any tournament in history.
I think it's probably actually easier to recover from mistakes in a pro tournament than in this challenge. It requires a long period of high concentration.
I would love to see you play through the Nightmare campaign and analyze the unit progression choices you make! Will watch anything you put out though, appreciate the content!
This for sure.
nightmare campaign?
@@DevinDTV yeah, original campaign with custom difficulty.
@@DevinDTV It's a mod that makes the campaign actually difficult. It's a lot of fun, I'm on mission 4 for WOL
@@taylordcraig does it add any content? Or just difficulty
You are really good at recreating your in-game mindset in your voice-over/cast. Best of both worlds.
I love your content, even though I haven't played in years. But watching with commentary is very intertaining!
A master StarCraft player AND ventriloquist.... Amazing!
LOL
probably secretly a protoss, communicating without moving his lips. Very strange!
Haha :D
When uThermal has to use 100% of his brain, it unlocks telepathy! lol
I like to imagine the AIs being sentient and literally blaming lag and each other: "How did we f*** this up??? It was 7v1 dammmit!!!!" :D
"noob team"
These challenges were why I first subbed. Stayed for all the other great videos too but it's awesome to see a return.
Same. YT recommended one of these challenges and since then I'm HOOKED on his vids, incredibly joyful, fun and overall enjoyable content, even tho I suck at this game so much - I have many great talents, multitasking is NOT one of them. Anyway, Thermy has become one of my favourite content creators here.
PiG just started a 1v10 AI challenge. Can't wait to see your entries!
He beat 10 elite AI a month ago.
ua-cam.com/video/Py7xJyQguEg/v-deo.html
PiG did 1v10 Hard, which us easier than 1v10 Elite which Therm has already done, which is easier than this 1v7 Insane Cheater. The interesting thing about the new challenge is that it's a speed run, so you have you figure out how soon you can move out and win.
uThermal when live-casting-while-playing: a smile that spreads joy to all
uThermal when trying to break a record without live-casting: deadly glare that petrifies victims instantly
Hey thermy! Thanks for the vids. You often mention during these that "you would be killed by an A-move mega-army", but it's really hard to visualise because you make it look easy.
I would LOVE to see an edited compilation of some of the armies that killed you. Just the last 20-30 seconds of each time they killed you, edited over benny hill music 🤣
this minus the music
You've got to take Pig's $500 off him for the 1 v 10 hard AI speedrun - you can do it Marc, we believe in you
correct
Didn't thermy already beat 10ai? I think he did an episode.
@@taylordcraig That was 1 vs 10 Elite AI which he already beat. The Elite AIs play fairly, but this chalenge is vs insane AIs which get extra free resources and have map hacks. And 1 vs 7 insane AIs is harder than 1 vs 10 Elite AIs, so it's not surprising he already did the latter.
This one had everything! What a comeback! Well done.
25:57 That actually was an insane sync where you mention that mineral patch, and then the camera goes right there! 😯😁
Great work! It has been really fun watching you learn how to dismantle the AI, congratulations!
all the best to you! very entertaining, refreshing and good-mood content, been watching since ~50k subs and have no SC background (apart from some very oldschool IEM knowledge haha) always looking forward to your cheeses and challenges, hope you break 300k+ next year! to the stars!!!
It's so funny because when I watch all of your other videos you're always so cheerful and happy and then i see your game face when you're not commentating and it's super serious. I find it funny ha. great video Marc!
Man, You're scary good at this. Lol! Cheers Marc! Have a great weekend.
PiG posted a 1 vs 10 AI challenge today. More bosses for you
Lol that’s funny, I knew it wasn’t final
yeah but those were hard AI, these are insane AI. probably the same level of difficulty
@@winterfell9990 yea the 1v10 is more of a speed run than a challenge. Pig thinks a platinum player could beat it. But not sub 30min like he did
@@winterfell9990 cheating insane
Marc's done a 1v10 Elite AI a while back, iirc
I believe there are AI tournaments out there where developers program an AI and have them battle it out in sc2 (think AlphaStar levels of AI). I think if you could somehow play against those that would be a super entertaining series!
Definitely not alphastar levels but it's certainly always interesting when people do that.
There are videos of harstem fighting them and he won like the first or second match he did. The AIs are really not that smart, they just use micro tricks and patterns that should counter most things but you can still abuse their weaknesses, which is way harder with Alphastar because he actually adapts kind of.
Haven’t missed a vid in weeks. Keep up the great stuff.
Nice video !
As you mentionned some other challenges, I did myself one inwhich I won vs Elite AI with every unit of the game (monobattle) requiring also to macro build till 200/200 and 5 bases as a minimum.
Only Exceptions are of course medivacs, obs and any unit with no attack at all (you can make an AI gg with mines, infestor or phenixes, no need to destroy all buildings, there is a trick)
I'm obviously not a pro or ex-pro gamer so this challenge is good enough for me, but you could adapt it your way I guess x) some are quite hard (mass sentry was actually way harder than I thought cause no dps)
Anyway keep it up :) Cheers
Great play!!! Thanks for sharing this!
This is an incredible vid. The commentary was so great, it kept my attention very well.
Wow, amazing effort and work. So happy I found your channel. Love your content and the pvp pvai mix ups
Never so you that concentrated on such a high level. Almost like an air trafic controller in a very tense situation. Amazing! Keep up the spirit next year!
Was disapointed at first that it wasn't one of the usual challenge videos today. But as I've been watching every new vid I decided to give it a try and oh boy, I was on the edge of my seat for 40 minutes ;) what an amazing vid, thanks marc!
Keep em coming
Congratulations on your accomplishment!
The concentration levels on the face !!!
46:10 I like how your neighbor that got destroyed in the early game was somehow the last AI to mine resources. Good bot.
These videos are always so fun! It would be cool to try this with some more advanced AI's (like in the direction of AlphaStar, although IDK if there's anything like that that exists) to see if you can find clever ways to exploit those. Would also be cool to see how your strategy evolves over the iterations attempts for these challenges, although that would be a lot more editing work!
This is just so ridiculous, just unbelievable. The stress in this I can feel. LOOK AT THOSE ARMIES he is defending against! ONE mistake and you are done! Unreal and amazing job!
Love this video~ for future AI challenge, I'd recommend either the nightmare difficulty campaign or COOP solos on some of the harder mutations (there is an arcade map that lets you play on maxed out commanders if you don't have them in regular game). There is actually list of solo challenges and some of those are insanely hard.
Holy shit you did it. You are my favorite SC youtuber of ALL TIME! Congratulations 🎊 👏 🎆 🎇
Woohoo! Love these! :) Would also love to see max difficulty coop vs ai challenges or some custom mutation ones!
One challenge i think would be interesting would be 2v6 w/ random easy ai as ally and they must have at least 1 mining base at alive throughout the game. the idea of having a partner that literally exists to handicap you might make for an interesting dynamic and early game turtling gets a lot harder when you have to defend further from your main.
i really like this idea, but. I think this would be to punishing and not fun. There isn't enough resources to defend a handicap and yourself. You would need to aggro and kill off enemies early to find resources, but that is nearly impossibile against multiple AI unless your pre-scripted. Not saying its impossible, but I feel like the wiggle room is very tiny, and might be nearly inhumane to actually perform. Just like the TAS speedruns.
I started watching and subscribed to your channel a while ago because of these AI challenges. GG!!
hey uthermal I see your hustle! major props man thanks for the content and happy new year!
Oh. Very nice battle. Thanks for work and video!
Congrats Marc!
Used to love watching you in your Pro games, I've always been a terran loyal, because a filthy casual only has brainpower to know one faction at a time, but I remember you being one of the fun players to watch - it's a TREAT that you host a channel for us man! Cheers!
Awesome video thermy. I'd like to see some clips of your failed attempts!
please upload one of those games where you almost won but in the end you lost spetacularly
Please make a compilation of the last minute of each failed attempt! Would be informative and entertaining!!
Bloopers reel with all the moments when you got absolutely overrun.
Those A.I challenges are real fun to watch, love them.
You are a legend.
this is incredible, keep it up man.
1v7 BUT no use of vespin gas would be pretty hard
"we outnumber you 7 to 1 you are surrounded"
"i like those odds"
Well done on the grind I hope SC2 dev's make you a spray in recognition
uThermal has proved me that SC2 is more interesting than 70% of all other games, even after 5 years of playing it. Thanks))
I have been watching your videos for a little bit. I realized I don't know how to play StarCraft watching you lol. Nice work man.
Admire your passion and patience! Where the game counter stopped for this one? Teased us, but never revealed the number)
This is awesome! you really gotta know the stuff!
Please make baneling to GM! :D With possible rules like "only only attack with 50+ baneling flood" or "mass baneling drops"
Oooh that's a good one!
Imagine the possibilities, baneling drops, nydus full of banelings, burrowed banelings 😂
@@Tc93412 Banelind drops are so rare and so sick against protoss 😈
that was fun to watch, and your commentary was nice too.
you destroyed 11,7 times more resources than you lost!
You are Ender Wiggins. If we get attacked, we know who to call.
Congrats! Definitely would love to see more AI challenges in the future. Have you tried 1v7 Elite AIs to see if the early game strategy is different? I've noticed it's easier to bug out the cheater AIs since they have maphack. Maybe if that's too easy you could add unit limitations like you mentioned.
what a feast! TYVM for this!
This video is insane. Wp man
I got a video series idea suggestion, you can make 3 gold players play against 2 diamond players for example. Just make different leagues play against one another, but in other quantities. Like 2 master players, against 5 bronze players or so.
Well done! Congrats!
Would love to see you try these with protoss & zerg
14:53 when I first played starcraft I noticed when you have SUVs with Crystal in hand and u put them in a gas building they lose those crystals they had
Uthermal .. can u or would it be even possible to drop mules on gold base and CAN MEDIVACS PICK UP MULES AND ELEVATOR THEM TO STEAL MINERALS ??
3:03 the AI has been evolving by watching hours on hours of Winter's late night stream.
(Hint: One of his accounts is named DRONERUSH)
holy crap you did it! Grats!
It's so distracting seeing Thermy not have a big goofy smile on his face doing his usual shenanigans XD
Playing through the campaign on challenges, max difficulty, etc would be fun to watch as well
Oh man. Mad respect. Worthy of a Hertog Jan!
It is insane (pun intended) how efficient this has to be played! Incredible game! 👏👏👏
this is so darn impressiv, and i don't think a Protoss could do this, i'm not sure about Zerg, maybe, but i'd love to see Zerg vs 7 AI or Protoss vs 7 AI
Vikings only deal bonus damage to terran buildings, they are the only ones to have a mechanical tag. Zerg Structures are biological, Protoss structures are actually neither, they are just tagged as Armored - Structure. (in coop mode they do have a mechanical tag so SCVs can repair protoss structures there)
That hero lib with 149 kills when the corruptors got it. RIP 17:08
Goddamn this saga has been gold. I wonder if these runs are possible with Protoss or even Zerg? Terran has enough defensive units and structures so I'm doubting the capabilities of the other races... good luck!
30:42 The tanks are in panic mode while trying to get behind the defense line. Almost like they are trampling on top of each other.
i mostly watch these to watch protoss and zerg get obliderated in siege tank fire.
Another great video!
I would also like to see you do a playthrough of the nightmare campaign please. much love and respect from Canada
Wow what an achievement! Respect and congrats!!!!
7:42 Anakin has joined the conversation
Normal people watch Netflix, Kids watch Disney +, I watch uThermal videos. Greetings from Mexico dude!
Happy new year! Looking forward to seeing you take PiGs $500 in his new 1v10 challenge!
Holy cow, that's insane!
What a legend.can’t wait for Pig to do a video on this match too
around the year 2001, at approx 9 years old, I installed sc + brood wars and D2LoD on my parent's Dell pc.. I still remember booting up the AOL connection and going into BW. I had absolutely no clue how to play, got destroyed in my first match, and never played again lmao I started D2LoD since my friend played it and I never did go back to try sc again
It blows my mind how many things you have to do and the speed you have to do them at in order to succeed at something like this.
uThermal in voice over: 😀
uThermal on camera: 😐
Hey Lad - had a thought, yeah? have the 1 v 7, but set 3 of the random AIs to 'rush' and 4 to 'macro' build (or some similar sort of arrangement) -- you wouldn't know which races were out there, if the rushers were close to you or not, etc. Now, on this one you said something about 'zergs tend to rush more' so in that line of thinking the number of zergs may well come close to the number of 'rush' builds... but i think it'd still be challenging enough to 'know' you have 2-3 rushers and 4-5 sitting back going for air dominance or w/e, and yet still don't know how many of which race, which ones are rushing, etc. Might be riot, would definitely take skill
How about Protos/Zerg vs 5-7 AI???
I for sure would love to see a 1v7 with your students
I wanna see all the fails because I think it’s be neat to see it
At 4:22 did you shoot the critter that was on the left and it went flying in the air to the top middle lol. or did a ling come over or something and just happen to be next to the critter?
That was wildly impressive, most skill with only a tiny bit of luck.
"we are surrounded. this simplifies the problem"
Congratulations on a job well done!