He also has 900 minerals left on the first match and he has no expansion left to mine from. If he had engaged in a fight even after winning he would’ve lost to the replenishment. It was an amazing match man it made me go and install the game again after like 8 years of retirement from SC. You also did an amazing casting.
VS TERRAN IT INTERESTING THE HABILITY OF NEXUS LET YOU REFRESH COOLDOWN THE UNIT WITH HABILITYS LIKE INMORTAL, DISRUPTOR, ETC. SOO THE GAME T VS P WILL BE BALANCED.🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉I RECOMEND THAT IM D1 TERRAN
@@PJOZeus As is it does seem like spellcasters are the only 'real' anti-air toss has. Like i think Serral needed to just rely on infestor viper more in that first game.
Game 1 was the best PvZ performance I've seen from Astrea. Serral was like "Okay, I'll just play my usual macro game and win." However, Astrea got on him with the perfect balance of aggression vs macro play right from the start, consistently cutting off the map in his favor, striking surgically against Serral's outer bases, holding off the corrupter horde with perfect zoning storms. Copntrolling the map with excellent Oracle play. Honestly, the way he positioned his ground army vs. the Broodlords was just perfection. This is a game many Protoss players lose, but Astrea played the game of his career and made Serral look utterly helpless. If only Astrea can bring more of this style to his game, and improve on other maps he will start to be threat in series vs. the top Zerg players.
I wish Astrea had continued his first-game strategy in the series. Don't change something that isn't broken. This is the first time I have seen Serral tap out a game by resignation with a whole army. He knew the difference in economies was too large to overcome by flights.
Dont change something that isnt broken is not a good strategy in sc2. Especially against a master strategic player like Serral. He will crush you if he found out that you use the same build twice (unless you have better hands than Serral like Clem has). Mix it up is always a good choice.
"and you can trust me, because i made that all up.. where as serral.. need to make up some lost ground!!" could not stop laughin for a minute after that one
First game was literally a tactical masterpiece. Ive seen games with amazing apm moves, outplays , amazing cheeses... but never such a clear domination of a world class player in every single part of the game without a single mistake. A GG at 200 supply .... insane
@@bobbymcdobson2153 my guess is that the parent comment loaded when you started the video, but my reply loaded later on when you expanded it, so their timers werent in proper sync. if you refresh the page, that should fix it
Wow game one was just top notch toss. One of the few times i can look at the protoss winning and think "wow but the opponent did like 0 mistakes!". Those are sooooo rare....
Astrea almost lost a 2v2 game (Him, Special vs MaxPax and Khelazur if I can recall) because in the final fight he forgot his carriers and he kinda bragged about not using F2. Seeing that adept hold position in the wall so flawlessly shows the power of that.
astrea needs to watch that replay over and over and hone in on that strat. he played that so well. love to see tempest/templar combo used in perfection like that
I think the title is underrated. THIS is legit top tier SC2. Its a truly unique game where Serral has been on his backfoot the entire time. Serral would usually have 10k bank 10min in.. And he doesnt
For Astrea to have that first game vs Serral of all players was incredible. Tempted to not finish the video because I don’t want to spoil the feelings from game 1 haha
Astrea manages an insane Stargate win in game one forcing Serral to tap out at 200 supply. Then he proceeds to not go Stargate in games 2-3.. why God why!?
Because it was Serral’s choice to rush hydra lurker in game 1, leading to an easier early game for Astrea, which means he can get to tempest faster. Once Astrea see Serral build a bunch of roach ravager in game 2,3, he know that he need as many stalker as possible or else Serral will run him over. Rushing tempest will not help you defend against Roach ravager pressure because tempest dps is too low to defend against roach ravager potential all in.
Because the idea of a series is to use a strategy, then use another, then use another so that your opponent doesn't adapt. At least when you are the weaker player that gives you a chance.
Blood talks - Blood color can vary across different species due to the presence of different respiratory pigments. Here are five types of blood colors and examples of species that exhibit them: 1. **Red**: Most vertebrates, including humans, have red blood due to the presence of hemoglobin, which contains iron. 2. **Blue**: Many arthropods and mollusks, like horseshoe crabs and some octopuses, have blue blood because of hemocyanin, which contains copper. 3. **Green**: Some annelids (segmented worms) and a few species of lizards have green blood due to the presence of biliverdin, a bile pigment. 4. **Yellow**: Certain insects, like beetles, have yellow blood due to the presence of hemolymph, which contains various pigments and proteins. 5. **Violet**: Some marine worms, such as peanut worms, have violet blood because of the presence of hemerythrin, another type of respiratory pigment. 1. **Transparent (or Colorless)**: Some species of icefish in the Antarctic have transparent blood. They lack hemoglobin and rely on the high oxygen content of cold water for survival. 2. **Purple**: Some species of marine annelids (like the peanut worm) can have purple blood due to the presence of the pigment hemerythrin. 3. **Pink**: Some types of marine worms also have pink blood, again due to the presence of hemerythrin.
Winter, I just want to say a massive THANK YOU for everything you do. There have been days when nothing in my life seemed to go right, but your casts and hilarious jokes never failed to put a smile on my face. You bring so much positivity and fun to the Starcraft 2 community, and it means the world to people like me. You truly are the Brenda of casters - unique, iconic, and irreplaceable. Keep being awesome!
game 1 might be the greatest single protoss game ever played. my goodness, just complete domination in every facet. economic warfare sherman would've been proud of. haven't seen a GM tap out with max supply like that since idra's mental fragility.
I'd like to point out the fact that Zerg are complaining about Protoss imbalance in the comments when Protoss actually lost this series and Astrea literally played one of the most perfect Protoss matches in recent memory just to win.
WOW ASTREA PLAYED THE BEST TOSS IVE EVER SEEN GAME 1! Then comes back to earth and serral learns from his mistakes, don’t let him rev up and keep the constant pressure from minute 3 on and he can’t bank 15k and max out on every upgrade to create a death ball. Protoss can be soooo cool but it rarely is achievable against a good player due to this. It was a treat to see a 200/200 tap out from serral knowing he would just rinse and repeat and get mined out
@ 1)it’s a video game 2) you read comments before watching?? 3) astrea, let’s face it… usually sucks so it was insane to see THAT GUY actually do what he always tells others to do yet doesn’t have the apm and brain to pull off himself. Just happy for the guy but at the same time I think he’s kind of a douche calling out better players saying what they should be doing while he never ever does properly himself as he’s all strategy and no execution aside from game 1. Excitement maybe? It’s also a major channel I watched the entire match I hardly thought I’d be spoiling anything tbh
VS TERRAN IT INTERESTING THE HABILITY OF NEXUS LET YOU REFRESH COOLDOWN THE UNIT WITH HABILITYS LIKE INMORTAL, DISRUPTOR, ETC. SOO THE GAME T VS P WILL BE BALANCED.🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉I RECOMEND THAT IM D1 TERRAN
He had nothing in the bank and Astrea, could have remaxxed like 2 times over... not to mention his cannons would have slowed Serrals push down to where it allowed Asrtrea enough time to max back out, there really was no win condition for Serral in that first game and he knew it.
@@memeier9894 You make them kill you. You make them come and maybe they make a bad mistake. I agree with your analysis up to the point you say no win condition. he had a 10% chance. I would fight for 10%.
@@raskov75 I agree with the sentiment personally, though I think a 10% chance at winning is being VERY generous, probably more around 1 or 2%. This is professional play, and not a ladder match with a diamond league player.
Funny, a few days ago i read a youtube commentthread where everyone complained about how useless temepsts are. Well, the first game showed, how they should be used. Not on their own but as part of a composition, that protects them, allowing them their job to snipe what needs to be sniped and deny broodlords.
18:05 "you see, that is a demonstration of the Brood Lord Bugg. They're at the very edge of their range sometimes the broodlings get cold feet or smth roughly equivilant.." 💀
Well maxed out terran ghost mech has the same effect. It is more that Zerg is not really meant to trade efficiently in the late game without good positioning and picking the opponent apart a couple of units at a time. Sure, they could stand a buff, but Zerg is designed to throw armies away and replace them faster than their opponents can do the same and overwhelm them or to do hit and run via nydus worms.
@@electricitybombif swarm hosts cost half the supply they currently do, I’d agree. They eat your entire army supply and only have 1 niche function. If you want to lose quickly, all you have to do is build swarm hosts.
Protoss looks a lot better now. Maybe a tiny bit too strong. It’s a shame Zerg has to win early vs both Terran and Protoss or just lose to less efficient armies late. There’s very little comeback mechanics for Zerg except for ling run bys and nydas lurkers which are relatively easy to defend against. I do think serral messed up the first game with no vipers. The long ranged trades were just too much. Needed to get rid of the lurkers for mass brood, corrupter, viper, infestor.
Looks a lot better? They have to play a perfect game with less dead units like in Game 1. The Game 2 and 3, once the mistakes starts piling up, it's game over for Protoss.
What are you talking about? None of the races have a flying unit that can trade efficiently against both air and ground except mothership which toss can only have 1 of
@sun-does-shine battle cruiser, viking, liberator, tempest, Phoenix, carrier, mothership. All of these can attack land and air. They may not be the best ever, but they can do it and most are pretty decent at it-liberators being probably the weakest. But if you put any of those against Corruptors, they get outranged and out damaged, being useless unless they are right on top of their air enemy and have a large numbers advantage. Otherwise they just get relentlessly popped by basically everything else, land or air. Mutas can technically hit both but they're useless almost immediately once turrets and cannons come online, and have to be micro'd like crazy or they get popped by even a few Marines. Games like the first one in this series really show how tempests-which aren't considered fantastic either-stomp Corruptors with range, while also providing range and flexibility to take on ground units and defenses. Zerg lacks anything close, having to tie up massive supply in air-only Corruptors, but then unable to actually counter the Tempests due to their range.
@ also zerg has really strong anti air tools on their casters and imo the strongest dedicated air to air unit in corruptors. The reason the tempests worked so well in game 1 is because astrea’s army composition and control were top notch. Pro zergs beat tempest armies all the time
@@sun-does-shine nah. Lol just give Corruptors a weak ground attack that doesn't require they be immobile for ages so it's only useful against buildings that can't fight back. If you watch any commentator discussing Corruptors "tying up supply" is a big problem. All it takes is an enemy to pivot away from air and the zerg could have a big useless pile of dung in the air. They also lack range upgrades and get outranged by basically every other air unit. Not that they're the focus, but broodlords, the zerg equivalent to protoss carriers, are for some reason landlocked. Zerg lacks a flexible air unit that can at least hold its own against both land and air in the mid and late game. Again, don't need some uber dominant unit, just something on par with Protoss and Terran or at least doest just get shredded.
I still have to get used to Zealots moving as fast as stimmed Marines after charge is researched. As a Wings of Liberty player, that seems like an insane buff.
The Protoss late-game has always felt overwhelming. Nothing directly or effectively trades into a Protoss death ball - either you have to outmaneuver it and hope that the Protoss doesn't have a million cannons at home, or you have to be so far ahead on macro that you can afford to trade down into the death ball. Sure, Protoss units are expensive, but their 100-pop army beats any other 100-pop army. In some ways, you might say the Protoss, by design, is playing with 250 or even upwards of 300 pop cap.
I’ll like this strategy, building a strong defence and also overwhelming fire power while not committing to an army trade but instead hitting the enemy where it hurts - the economy. It’s giving me strong ‘the art of war’ vibes. wp
Agreed, PERFECT protoss game. THAT is how you should play to win tournies. no bullshit nerfs or buffs. most of the time all protoss needs is Clem to play them. But now a protoss main is proving that skill and brain power CAN beat the goat. NO MORE COMPLAINING for protoss. excellently and perfectly played Astrea, amazingly done!!
I just realized that there’s a really high chance that Susan and Brenda are Winters neighbors and Winter is actually 56 years old… and that makes Jimmy the cabana boy
Serrall is the most accomplish zerg of all time. Clem being the #1 Terran, and arguably a top 5 (maybe 3) protoss player as well makes him the best SC2 player of all time.
Game 1, Astrea played out of his mind. What an insane game. I've been asking for so long why Toss doesn't abuse tempest more... maybe the 1 less supply was the answer! Like idk what Serral could have even done game 1 to stand a chance.
That game one was amazing. I want to see more of that protoss style. Game 2 was well executed by Astrea but Serral has seen that same strat alot before, even without the ling run by, Serral would've still won, he had a gold mine, was mining more and had Astrea cornered. Game 3 was just sad.
There really isn't any viable way to have an exciting unexpected game anymore. The 12 drones start killed early and mid. What they needed to do was to just get a number of drone that got rid of the time lapse before building the first supply. So 8 or 9 drones start. Instead : Cool first game though, good late game
Honestly, no shame not leading with stargate again, played his ass off, could be he didnt feel he had the mental fortitude to replicate that again, mad respect for knowing his limits (if that was the intent)
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He also has 900 minerals left on the first match and he has no expansion left to mine from.
If he had engaged in a fight even after winning he would’ve lost to the replenishment.
It was an amazing match man it made me go and install the game again after like 8 years of retirement from SC.
You also did an amazing casting.
he could do anything with 9000 minerals he sure couldn't do anything with 900 :D
the 1st game is the perfect Protoss game, one in a lifetime against Serral
Gotta say, tectonic destabilizers is such a fine addition to the game. No more boring spore forest in a PvZ late game.
VS TERRAN IT INTERESTING THE HABILITY OF NEXUS LET YOU REFRESH COOLDOWN THE UNIT WITH HABILITYS LIKE INMORTAL, DISRUPTOR, ETC. SOO THE GAME T VS P WILL BE BALANCED.🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉I RECOMEND THAT IM D1 TERRAN
That was some Soviet StarCraft right there
@@pracliu1268 could just.. give Zerg real anti air
@@PJOZeus As is it does seem like spellcasters are the only 'real' anti-air toss has. Like i think Serral needed to just rely on infestor viper more in that first game.
Game 1 was the best PvZ performance I've seen from Astrea. Serral was like "Okay, I'll just play my usual macro game and win." However, Astrea got on him with the perfect balance of aggression vs macro play right from the start, consistently cutting off the map in his favor, striking surgically against Serral's outer bases, holding off the corrupter horde with perfect zoning storms. Copntrolling the map with excellent Oracle play. Honestly, the way he positioned his ground army vs. the Broodlords was just perfection. This is a game many Protoss players lose, but Astrea played the game of his career and made Serral look utterly helpless. If only Astrea can bring more of this style to his game, and improve on other maps he will start to be threat in series vs. the top Zerg players.
I wish Astrea had continued his first-game strategy in the series. Don't change something that isn't broken. This is the first time I have seen Serral tap out a game by resignation with a whole army. He knew the difference in economies was too large to overcome by flights.
Dont change something that isnt broken is not a good strategy in sc2. Especially against a master strategic player like Serral. He will crush you if he found out that you use the same build twice (unless you have better hands than Serral like Clem has). Mix it up is always a good choice.
Remember when the Terran Council made Brood Lords a viable unit again and then took it away immediately?
did you mean the Council of Morons?
terrans living rent free in his head lmao
@@c0461-e1s When you look at the balance changes being made, it's hard not to argue there's a slight bias in Terran favor
"and you can trust me, because i made that all up.. where as serral.. need to make up some lost ground!!" could not stop laughin for a minute after that one
Winter's queen impressions is the cherry on top of the cake of this channel.
First game was literally a tactical masterpiece. Ive seen games with amazing apm moves, outplays , amazing cheeses... but never such a clear domination of a world class player in every single part of the game without a single mistake. A GG at 200 supply .... insane
The Archon a wall of 'overwhelming power'... I see what you did there...
...And I love it!
Merry Christmas and thank you for the show!
28:25 Adept was like "You have failed our race with your miserable existence, be grateful that your mistake will be cleansed by my hand"
that's what the adept would have said if it had a mouth
@@MrRubixscube how is a three hour old comment responding to a two hour old comment?
do protoss have butts?
important questions
@@bobbymcdobson2153 my guess is that the parent comment loaded when you started the video, but my reply loaded later on when you expanded it, so their timers werent in proper sync. if you refresh the page, that should fix it
I was surprised that Winter missed that heehee
Wow game one was just top notch toss. One of the few times i can look at the protoss winning and think "wow but the opponent did like 0 mistakes!". Those are sooooo rare....
Astrea almost lost a 2v2 game (Him, Special vs MaxPax and Khelazur if I can recall) because in the final fight he forgot his carriers and he kinda bragged about not using F2. Seeing that adept hold position in the wall so flawlessly shows the power of that.
astrea needs to watch that replay over and over and hone in on that strat. he played that so well. love to see tempest/templar combo used in perfection like that
Merry Christmas, Winter. You've really helped make my 2024 a better year -- Thank you! (Tell Brenda hi! 😂)
I think the title is underrated. THIS is legit top tier SC2.
Its a truly unique game where Serral has been on his backfoot the entire time.
Serral would usually have 10k bank 10min in.. And he doesnt
37:57 "JIMMY, HOLD THE GODDAMN DOOR! YOU HAD ONE JOB! 😤"
For Astrea to have that first game vs Serral of all players was incredible. Tempted to not finish the video because I don’t want to spoil the feelings from game 1 haha
Astrea manages an insane Stargate win in game one forcing Serral to tap out at 200 supply. Then he proceeds to not go Stargate in games 2-3.. why God why!?
I'd like to know too
Because it was Serral’s choice to rush hydra lurker in game 1, leading to an easier early game for Astrea, which means he can get to tempest faster. Once Astrea see Serral build a bunch of roach ravager in game 2,3, he know that he need as many stalker as possible or else Serral will run him over. Rushing tempest will not help you defend against Roach ravager pressure because tempest dps is too low to defend against roach ravager potential all in.
Because the idea of a series is to use a strategy, then use another, then use another so that your opponent doesn't adapt. At least when you are the weaker player that gives you a chance.
Blood talks -
Blood color can vary across different species due to the presence of different respiratory pigments. Here are five types of blood colors and examples of species that exhibit them:
1. **Red**: Most vertebrates, including humans, have red blood due to the presence of hemoglobin, which contains iron.
2. **Blue**: Many arthropods and mollusks, like horseshoe crabs and some octopuses, have blue blood because of hemocyanin, which contains copper.
3. **Green**: Some annelids (segmented worms) and a few species of lizards have green blood due to the presence of biliverdin, a bile pigment.
4. **Yellow**: Certain insects, like beetles, have yellow blood due to the presence of hemolymph, which contains various pigments and proteins.
5. **Violet**: Some marine worms, such as peanut worms, have violet blood because of the presence of hemerythrin, another type of respiratory pigment.
1. **Transparent (or Colorless)**: Some species of icefish in the Antarctic have transparent blood. They lack hemoglobin and rely on the high oxygen content of cold water for survival.
2. **Purple**: Some species of marine annelids (like the peanut worm) can have purple blood due to the presence of the pigment hemerythrin.
3. **Pink**: Some types of marine worms also have pink blood, again due to the presence of hemerythrin.
Greedy worms get all the cool colors
28:23 the execution of the probe that has failed the protoss force
The army composition of Astrea in game 1 is a nightmare as Zerg to face.
That first game will be studied for years to come.
Anyone who can reproduce this have a shot at taking down the GOAT
After game 1 you see Serral tap out at almost max supply, pretty rare. You could tell he was like "ok ok ok... you got this one"
Dear harstem. Is protoss IMBA or do I suck?
I could watch a million games like that first one.
Winter, I just want to say a massive THANK YOU for everything you do. There have been days when nothing in my life seemed to go right, but your casts and hilarious jokes never failed to put a smile on my face. You bring so much positivity and fun to the Starcraft 2 community, and it means the world to people like me. You truly are the Brenda of casters - unique, iconic, and irreplaceable. Keep being awesome!
2:18 that was remarkably funny, so I remarked on it ahahahahhahaha
game 1 might be the greatest single protoss game ever played. my goodness, just complete domination in every facet. economic warfare sherman would've been proud of. haven't seen a GM tap out with max supply like that since idra's mental fragility.
"Fowl Play" I caught it!
@@colinfraser7150 foul
I'd like to point out the fact that Zerg are complaining about Protoss imbalance in the comments when Protoss actually lost this series and Astrea literally played one of the most perfect Protoss matches in recent memory just to win.
WOW ASTREA PLAYED THE BEST TOSS IVE EVER SEEN GAME 1! Then comes back to earth and serral learns from his mistakes, don’t let him rev up and keep the constant pressure from minute 3 on and he can’t bank 15k and max out on every upgrade to create a death ball. Protoss can be soooo cool but it rarely is achievable against a good player due to this. It was a treat to see a 200/200 tap out from serral knowing he would just rinse and repeat and get mined out
Wow.. all caps top comment spoiler.
@ 1)it’s a video game 2) you read comments before watching?? 3) astrea, let’s face it… usually sucks so it was insane to see THAT GUY actually do what he always tells others to do yet doesn’t have the apm and brain to pull off himself. Just happy for the guy but at the same time I think he’s kind of a douche calling out better players saying what they should be doing while he never ever does properly himself as he’s all strategy and no execution aside from game 1.
Excitement maybe? It’s also a major channel I watched the entire match I hardly thought I’d be spoiling anything tbh
@@lefthanded0440 it's all good
Against "a" good player?
Astrea is facing someone widely regarded as the best SC2 player _of all time!_ 😂
VS TERRAN IT INTERESTING THE HABILITY OF NEXUS LET YOU REFRESH COOLDOWN THE UNIT WITH HABILITYS LIKE INMORTAL, DISRUPTOR, ETC. SOO THE GAME T VS P WILL BE BALANCED.🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉I RECOMEND THAT IM D1 TERRAN
24:02 Tapping out with 198 supply and 1k minerals and 2.5k gas is crazy work.
He had nothing in the bank and Astrea, could have remaxxed like 2 times over... not to mention his cannons would have slowed Serrals push down to where it allowed Asrtrea enough time to max back out, there really was no win condition for Serral in that first game and he knew it.
@@memeier9894 You make them kill you. You make them come and maybe they make a bad mistake. I agree with your analysis up to the point you say no win condition. he had a 10% chance. I would fight for 10%.
I think Serral would know what he's doing
@@raskov75 I agree with the sentiment personally, though I think a 10% chance at winning is being VERY generous, probably more around 1 or 2%. This is professional play, and not a ladder match with a diamond league player.
@ahandle01 fair
Happy Christmas 🎄, Winter, Jimmy, Brenda, Susan and all friends from the channel!
7:47 The beacon is light. Strategy executed beautifully
Funny, a few days ago i read a youtube commentthread where everyone complained about how useless temepsts are. Well, the first game showed, how they should be used. Not on their own but as part of a composition, that protects them, allowing them their job to snipe what needs to be sniped and deny broodlords.
Good content, made me install / play SC2 again after many years. Keep it up man!
18:05 "you see, that is a demonstration of the Brood Lord Bugg. They're at the very edge of their range sometimes the broodlings get cold feet or smth roughly equivilant.." 💀
you know the lategame is in a good place when the GOAT taps out at 200 supply on even bases.
I like watching this man talk about game while I eat.
3:23 there are three kinds of people in the world
those who can count, and those who cant
Serral and Winter admit that maxed Protoss armies are nearly unkillable for Zerg... give me a Brutalisk
Well maxed out terran ghost mech has the same effect. It is more that Zerg is not really meant to trade efficiently in the late game without good positioning and picking the opponent apart a couple of units at a time. Sure, they could stand a buff, but Zerg is designed to throw armies away and replace them faster than their opponents can do the same and overwhelm them or to do hit and run via nydus worms.
@@WwillswordsYou can beat mech with swarm hosts
@@electricitybomb the get out moved by drops
@@electricitybombif swarm hosts cost half the supply they currently do, I’d agree. They eat your entire army supply and only have 1 niche function.
If you want to lose quickly, all you have to do is build swarm hosts.
@@cowmath77YOU FOOL! CLEARLY YOU HAVEN'T SEEN ME WITH ULTRALISKS (my Zerg control is legitimately dogwater lmao 😂😂😂)
Merry Christmas to you and your family, Winter! Thank you for making my year a bit better. 2025 is going to be a great year for you!
Protoss looks a lot better now. Maybe a tiny bit too strong. It’s a shame Zerg has to win early vs both Terran and Protoss or just lose to less efficient armies late. There’s very little comeback mechanics for Zerg except for ling run bys and nydas lurkers which are relatively easy to defend against.
I do think serral messed up the first game with no vipers. The long ranged trades were just too much. Needed to get rid of the lurkers for mass brood, corrupter, viper, infestor.
Looks a lot better? They have to play a perfect game with less dead units like in Game 1. The Game 2 and 3, once the mistakes starts piling up, it's game over for Protoss.
Zerg desperately needs a legitimate air unit that can fight air and ground like both protoss and terrain have.
What are you talking about? None of the races have a flying unit that can trade efficiently against both air and ground except mothership which toss can only have 1 of
@sun-does-shine battle cruiser, viking, liberator, tempest, Phoenix, carrier, mothership. All of these can attack land and air. They may not be the best ever, but they can do it and most are pretty decent at it-liberators being probably the weakest.
But if you put any of those against Corruptors, they get outranged and out damaged, being useless unless they are right on top of their air enemy and have a large numbers advantage. Otherwise they just get relentlessly popped by basically everything else, land or air.
Mutas can technically hit both but they're useless almost immediately once turrets and cannons come online, and have to be micro'd like crazy or they get popped by even a few Marines.
Games like the first one in this series really show how tempests-which aren't considered fantastic either-stomp Corruptors with range, while also providing range and flexibility to take on ground units and defenses. Zerg lacks anything close, having to tie up massive supply in air-only Corruptors, but then unable to actually counter the Tempests due to their range.
@ you are being super biased imo. You are willfully overlooking the weaknesses of non-zerg units and not giving zerg the same treatment.
@ also zerg has really strong anti air tools on their casters and imo the strongest dedicated air to air unit in corruptors. The reason the tempests worked so well in game 1 is because astrea’s army composition and control were top notch. Pro zergs beat tempest armies all the time
@@sun-does-shine nah. Lol just give Corruptors a weak ground attack that doesn't require they be immobile for ages so it's only useful against buildings that can't fight back. If you watch any commentator discussing Corruptors "tying up supply" is a big problem. All it takes is an enemy to pivot away from air and the zerg could have a big useless pile of dung in the air.
They also lack range upgrades and get outranged by basically every other air unit.
Not that they're the focus, but broodlords, the zerg equivalent to protoss carriers, are for some reason landlocked.
Zerg lacks a flexible air unit that can at least hold its own against both land and air in the mid and late game. Again, don't need some uber dominant unit, just something on par with Protoss and Terran or at least doest just get shredded.
the eagle scream gets me every time
Amazing 1st match! Love it!
Thank you winter for these amazing cast, making our day just a little bit better
Great cast as always! SUCH a perfect first game!! 2nd and 3rd... he fell short trying other strats. But great video! Love ya Winter!
always the perfect amount of insight and puns.
That first round Protoss the best most fun I have ever seen... gg
That Protoss death ball from game one was impressive!
I still have to get used to Zealots moving as fast as stimmed Marines after charge is researched. As a Wings of Liberty player, that seems like an insane buff.
The Protoss late-game has always felt overwhelming. Nothing directly or effectively trades into a Protoss death ball - either you have to outmaneuver it and hope that the Protoss doesn't have a million cannons at home, or you have to be so far ahead on macro that you can afford to trade down into the death ball. Sure, Protoss units are expensive, but their 100-pop army beats any other 100-pop army. In some ways, you might say the Protoss, by design, is playing with 250 or even upwards of 300 pop cap.
Great early Christmas present! Thanks for all the content Winter and Merry Christmas.
P S. Go Astrea!
dude, you're great. thanks for the content.
FOURACLES! Pretty sure I heard that. Merry Christmas, Winter!
Thanks Winter, don't know what I'd do w/o my SC2 fix, you're the best!
I’ll like this strategy, building a strong defence and also overwhelming fire power while not committing to an army trade but instead hitting the enemy where it hurts - the economy. It’s giving me strong ‘the art of war’ vibes. wp
I love Serral, but I have never seen him be so dominated by anyone much less a Protoss, and an American at that!
I'm just in shock and awe.
that first game was the reason why i love protoss.
Good casting. Glasses joke was gold.
Agreed, PERFECT protoss game. THAT is how you should play to win tournies. no bullshit nerfs or buffs. most of the time all protoss needs is Clem to play them. But now a protoss main is proving that skill and brain power CAN beat the goat. NO MORE COMPLAINING for protoss. excellently and perfectly played Astrea, amazingly done!!
23:18 "That seemed like a fowl play" Riiiiiighht...
Queen nerf seems real
17:30 - Apparently that pit can eat storms
Holy sh** what a crazy first game by Astrea, wp, damn
Thanks for the great content for X-Mas! Best present I got :D
Winter, happy holidays! I think you’ve trained me to smash that like button even before you started your spiel.
wow Astrea is so exciting to watch!
I just realized that there’s a really high chance that Susan and Brenda are Winters neighbors and Winter is actually 56 years old… and that makes Jimmy the cabana boy
the two storms putting 90% of serrals corruptors beneath 10% health was the final straw.
daym never seen 14k bank agains serral...that was masterclass
That eagle in the into, rofl
1st game serral needed sir Richard and the boys, 10 swarm host would have been equally dirty,
GG on almost 200 hundred supply each!
That first game was insane
Oh wow.. That photo of Astrea looks like you Winter
Astrea did so well! I totally think there should be a counter for main buildings (hatcheries, command centeres, nexuses) killed and cancelled.
Protoss vs Zerg is my favorite matchup. So fun to watch
28:23 Are we gonna talk about that self kill?
Serrall is the most accomplish zerg of all time. Clem being the #1 Terran, and arguably a top 5 (maybe 3) protoss player as well makes him the best SC2 player of all time.
Serral carved up like a Christmas duck :D
Game 1, Astrea played out of his mind. What an insane game. I've been asking for so long why Toss doesn't abuse tempest more... maybe the 1 less supply was the answer! Like idk what Serral could have even done game 1 to stand a chance.
That game one was amazing. I want to see more of that protoss style. Game 2 was well executed by Astrea but Serral has seen that same strat alot before, even without the ling run by, Serral would've still won, he had a gold mine, was mining more and had Astrea cornered. Game 3 was just sad.
Someone better call Astreas parents because he was straight up bullying Serral
During second game the Shadows look weird. Not max settings?
There really isn't any viable way to have an exciting unexpected game anymore. The 12 drones start killed early and mid. What they needed to do was to just get a number of drone that got rid of the time lapse before building the first supply. So 8 or 9 drones start. Instead :
Cool first game though, good late game
Oh when the banes
go rolling in
Oh when the banes
go rolling iiiiin
Then I know
I'm playing Serral
Oh when the banes
go rolling in
One day, in the far-flung Utopian future, Zerg might have at least one real combat unit.
Game 1 was an absolute masterpiece.
For 1 sec, because of the thumbnail, i thought viggo mortensen started SC2 lol
man what in the actual F
Astrea took Serral to primary school man
impressive
Tempest + High Templar is the new Broodlord + Infestor
27:59 Protoss blue algae confirmed
Last game was just toooooo adamant on tosses part, that blink into zerglings over and over again, was such a bronze move for such a good player :(
I think if Serral had a few Vipers in the first game he could have whittled away the Tempests and then just done whatever he does for the rest.
How many time did that 6 o'clock base get destroyed in game 1?
Honestly, no shame not leading with stargate again, played his ass off, could be he didnt feel he had the mental fortitude to replicate that again, mad respect for knowing his limits (if that was the intent)
oracle, moreacles, fouracles, oh my
Merry Christmas! Happy birthday jesus