Jon, as someone who has mixed the pigments in dry, on multiple occassions, I recommend adding water to them first, then wedging into the clay. The color distribution seems to be better and it mixes quicker. I've done marbled handles on some of my mugs, by throwing a small, bottomless cylinder, then cutting those into sections to create the handles. I would imagine you could load the marbled clay in an extruder and get somenof the marbling to show, as well.
Thanks for the shout out Jon and great video! Marbling, agateware, neriage, whatever you call it, I’m just happy to see you give it a go with this vid. Colored clay is addicting. Be careful 👍🏻
That was fantastic! Thanks for sharing I've been watching those mugs of yours for a while wondering how you did it. Love that you are so willing to share what you are doing!
I'm also dabbling in colored clay with marbled pieces soon! Been marbling with two and three different kinds of clay. A brown, red, and white. And it is SO much fun! This video is great!
I just love these marbled clay effects. Thank you for showing us how! I think I mentioned to you at Art Wander that it reminds me of the rock walls of Lake Powell. So I was looking for some photos of those walls, to illustrate that, when I came across this description of Navajo Canyon: "One of the longest of Lake Powell's 96 major side canyons, Navajo Canyon is also one of the only side canyons to have been a tributary of the Colorado River. The canyon twists and meanders 15.5 miles past 600' high walls laden with Navajo Tapestries; iron oxide and manganese residue from the above, now eroded, beds of shale, that have "draped" down the sides of the canyon walls." Get that -- IRON OXIDE!!! Guess I wasn't imagining the similarities. [ ~Debz ]
Haven't done this my self yet but I put all my dried out trimmings in a bucket and add water to reclaim. So I thought about adding colorant to that and than reclaiming.
Grew up in SW Arkansas and as a kid saw Niloak "Mission Swirl" art pottery vases frequently. I always wondered how they got the marbleized effect. I really enjoyed this video, getting to see how to accomplish it.
Found your channel by accident. LOVELY work. Here's a tip: to to a masonry shop that sells cement - they have all sort of iron oxide compounds and they are low-cost. You can buy yellow, green, red and black. About 10$/2.2lb bag is the price locally. These are usually very finely powdered - but you can also build your own ball mill (easy) and ball mill some charcoal/metals to a superfine powder. I wonder how would fine metal shavings (brass/aluminum) act within the clay or glazing and if they will add some interesting texture. Keep up the wonderful work.
Bro i love ur vids so much relaxing to watch and plz don't leave Im a student too and i want to be like u in the future so great job keep going big man 💪 💯
Both you and Ceramic Jim are excellent instructors. I can learn a lot from each of you. There aren’t enough nerikomi instructional videos. Do either of you do any hand building.? I’m struggling with trial and error.
Hi Jon ! In the style of Niloak pottery with the marbling .. So gorgeous! I love the mug without the extra glazing on the rim. The lines and raw beauty in that mug with the iron and the marbling! 😍 Interesting to try it out in different color oxides. Subtlety at its best ✌ Great job !!!!
Hello Jon This is Sherio the potter. There are many colorants in the red iron oxide price range that make lovely colored clay including black iron oxide, copper oxide, ochre, chrome oxide, new Albany clay and other colorants and clay additions. Mason stains are great but pricey.
Hi Jon. It’s a good idea, from a safety standpoint, to wear a mask when working with oxides and mason stains. Don’t want to breathe any dust into your lungs. Even when you’re being careful crazy things happen and poof it’s airborne. Loved the video. You make it seem so easy!
Great vid. Thanks for taking the time to create it, Jon. Would you expect black iron oxide to produce results similar to red (obviously except for black/grey)---along with the ease of use and relative safety?
Question: when you've layered the different colored clays do you not find any air or gaps in the ball of clay due to the differently assembled pieces? I want to ensure I'm maintaining color separation with out too much handling, wedging or coning, but I worry about ruining a piece on the wheel if its not combined enough. Additionally- how do you handle clay wastage when making marbled pieces? EG trimmings etc. Do you recycle it all into one new colour?
gillian newing I was advised to re-bag my balls of clay and let them sit for a day or two. This might help to reduce gaps and lumpiness. Of course, that requires patience since I can’t wait to get it on the wheel. Regarding scraps and such, I don’t really have the perfect solution, but I try to place it in a separate reclaim bucket or place it in a container with similar colors to make a new color or colored slip.
Your videos are totally fun! I have never thrown a thing on a wheel but would love to (need to find a place near me). Wondering if you're going to get your donut tea pots into your etsy shop anytime soon. Would love to get one!
I would love to learn how to do this but everything costs so much and I am so busy! Plus, my mom would never let me do pottery, I already have too many hobbies.
Jon--- I use mason stains (MS) for flowers and leaves. I fight with all the greens. Often my beautiful mint green becomes ugly brown once clear glaze is applied. I've tried Amaco clear, zinc free and finally matte clear to maintain the green color. No luck. I mix my MS with b-mix to the desired color value and fire at cone 5. I've checked all of kilns and they're fine. Any guesses or suggestions?
Hey JTP, Is there a reason you don't use the paving stones you made with the glass coasters? Do they cut your feet if you're barefoot? Do you still make and sell the glass coasters?
Great video! Can you just mix things like copper carbonate or cobalt carbonate into the clay dry just like mason stains? Do you ever get the dry stains wet first then mix in?
Me: Watchs Jonthepotter, Me: I want to make pottery, Me: asks mom if we have a pottery wheel, Mom: I think so in the closet, Me: looks finds a cheap kids pottery wheel *Oh this won't do*
Couldn't you get the lighter shade by just wedging the dark shade first and then breaking some of that dark shade off and mixing with white and rewedging?
Hello! I’m pretty much a pottery newbie... I’ve been looking at patties to catch any glazing drips.. are they bisque fired from the same clay the pots are made from? Then simply placed under the item to be fire glazed.?
Hey Erika:) if you wax resist the bottoms and 1/4-1/2 inch of the bottom sides of the piece, you shouldn't have any problems with glaze sticking to the kiln shelf. Also, you can use kiln shelf stilts, little triangles of bosque ware that you set your piece on. But really, if you use wax on the bottom and sides (just a little bit up, like I said 1/4-1/2 inch) you should be fine. Flux over glaze *not all glaze but some* will make the glaze drip and run, but if you're careful, and use wax resist, you should be fine. Hope that helps!:)
As far as I know it is safe to handle. There is red iron oxide in darker colored clay bodies which are safe to handle. Caution should me taken from the dust as with all things in ceramics , so a mask is a good idea when working with it.
Jon, as someone who has mixed the pigments in dry, on multiple occassions, I recommend adding water to them first, then wedging into the clay. The color distribution seems to be better and it mixes quicker.
I've done marbled handles on some of my mugs, by throwing a small, bottomless cylinder, then cutting those into sections to create the handles. I would imagine you could load the marbled clay in an extruder and get somenof the marbling to show, as well.
Thanks for the shout out Jon and great video! Marbling, agateware, neriage, whatever you call it, I’m just happy to see you give it a go with this vid. Colored clay is addicting. Be careful 👍🏻
I'm already addicted...it's so fun! Thanks for all your great content!
I absolutely love the redish dark clay with the brown glaze drip... OMG. amazing. i love the marble technique. It's one of my favorites.
These are still some of the best looking mugs I’ve ever seen.
Great information, thank you for sharing. Retirement in June 2020, hoping to do a lot more throwing.
Jon, you’re the best! I enjoy you and your sharing in your videos! Love the father side of Jon just as much!
Love the way you finished the mugs with just the linear 😍
That was fantastic! Thanks for sharing I've been watching those mugs of yours for a while wondering how you did it. Love that you are so willing to share what you are doing!
Great video, I've done this before but never thought of using red iron oxide! You're right its way cheaper than mason stains.
Could you technically make a rainbow marbled cup with that? That could look really cool!
I bet so!!!
I'm also dabbling in colored clay with marbled pieces soon! Been marbling with two and three different kinds of clay. A brown, red, and white. And it is SO much fun! This video is great!
I just love these marbled clay effects. Thank you for showing us how!
I think I mentioned to you at Art Wander that it reminds me of the rock walls of Lake Powell. So I was looking for some photos of those walls, to illustrate that, when I came across this description of Navajo Canyon: "One of the longest of Lake Powell's 96 major side canyons, Navajo Canyon is also one of the only side canyons to have been a tributary of the Colorado River. The canyon twists and meanders 15.5 miles past 600' high walls laden with Navajo Tapestries; iron oxide and manganese residue from the above, now eroded, beds of shale, that have "draped" down the sides of the canyon walls." Get that -- IRON OXIDE!!! Guess I wasn't imagining the similarities. [ ~Debz ]
Well said.. lovely 😊
Haven't done this my self yet but I put all my dried out trimmings in a bucket and add water to reclaim. So I thought about adding colorant to that and than reclaiming.
NOICE! I WANT PINK CLAY but having trouble getting mason stains🤷
They look freakin amazing even without the glaze.
Awesome, I practiced using a Chocolate clay from NM and a buff clay from Minneapolis.
Grew up in SW Arkansas and as a kid saw Niloak "Mission Swirl" art pottery vases frequently. I always wondered how they got the marbleized effect. I really enjoyed this video, getting to see how to accomplish it.
Here in Brazil I have been watching your videos and I love it. Thanks for sharing them.
Love the blue & green mix!
I admire creativity and passion. Best regards from Poland 🙂.
Found your channel by accident. LOVELY work.
Here's a tip: to to a masonry shop that sells cement - they have all sort of iron oxide compounds and they are low-cost.
You can buy yellow, green, red and black. About 10$/2.2lb bag is the price locally.
These are usually very finely powdered - but you can also build your own ball mill (easy) and ball mill some charcoal/metals to a superfine powder.
I wonder how would fine metal shavings (brass/aluminum) act within the clay or glazing and if they will add some interesting texture.
Keep up the wonderful work.
Great video. I use b mix and calico or buff clays for marbling. I also try and clean up the slurry on the inside of the piece.
Your work is amazing , I can't wait for more to come by. I will try to do more practice on ceramic work and experiment more.,
Love this video Jon the effects are really interesting.
Absolutely beautiful. I love watching these... they're so relaxing!
Nice and really exciting colors I love it
I loved this video, so inspiring! Marbling is a lovely technique and you explain it so well :)
dude you are so chill and you make pottery looks so fun and I really wannt try to get into potting
i'd LOVE to see pale yellow and mint green!!
Bro i love ur vids so much relaxing to watch and plz don't leave
Im a student too and i want to be like u in the future so great job keep going big man 💪 💯
Absolutely beautiful and looks like it is so much fun. Thank you for sharing such a beautiful artwork and technique.
Both you and Ceramic Jim are excellent instructors. I can learn a lot from each of you. There aren’t enough nerikomi instructional videos. Do either of you do any hand building.? I’m struggling with trial and error.
Hi Jon ! In the style of Niloak pottery with the marbling .. So gorgeous! I love the mug without the extra glazing on the rim. The lines and raw beauty in that mug with the iron and the marbling! 😍 Interesting to try it out in different color oxides. Subtlety at its best ✌ Great job !!!!
I'm so glad that you did this video!! I love it and please keep on making videos!
They are gorgeous, also love your clock on the wall, is that thrown or another form😃
Hello Jon
This is Sherio the potter. There are many colorants in the red iron oxide price range that make lovely colored clay including black iron oxide, copper oxide, ochre, chrome oxide, new Albany clay and other colorants and clay additions. Mason stains are great but pricey.
Beautiful, thank you for sharing your video. You are so talented.
I was actually wondering how you did the marbling. Now I know!! Awesome video!!
Nice. I would like to see the finished product.
Wonderful video. You are such an inspiration! Keep bringing the awesome videos!
Jon - Lotsa fun, thanks for sharing your techniques & talents! First video of yours I've seen, subscribing now!
I love these marble mugs so much!!
It's magic ! Great video ! Thanks a lot !
Hi Jon. It’s a good idea, from a safety standpoint, to wear a mask when working with oxides and mason stains. Don’t want to breathe any dust into your lungs. Even when you’re being careful crazy things happen and poof it’s airborne. Loved the video. You make it seem so easy!
Yes I normally do, I should have mentioned that!
Great vid. Thanks for taking the time to create it, Jon. Would you expect black iron oxide to produce results similar to red (obviously except for black/grey)---along with the ease of use and relative safety?
These are my favorite, thanks Jon
Wow fantastic shots at the end amazing
Hi jon, a new subscriber here. Beautiful work! Keep up the good work!
Oh, the possibilities!!! Love your videos, too!!!
Great video John! I always run opposite direction from hat metal rib, it cuts and it hurts.
This is very helpful thanks very much for sharing 😊
Question: when you've layered the different colored clays do you not find any air or gaps in the ball of clay due to the differently assembled pieces? I want to ensure I'm maintaining color separation with out too much handling, wedging or coning, but I worry about ruining a piece on the wheel if its not combined enough. Additionally- how do you handle clay wastage when making marbled pieces? EG trimmings etc. Do you recycle it all into one new colour?
gillian newing I was advised to re-bag my balls of clay and let them sit for a day or two. This might help to reduce gaps and lumpiness. Of course, that requires patience since I can’t wait to get it on the wheel.
Regarding scraps and such, I don’t really have the perfect solution, but I try to place it in a separate reclaim bucket or place it in a container with similar colors to make a new color or colored slip.
I agree with the other commenter, I bag my wedged marble clay and let it sit for 2 days:)
Gorgeous! Would love to try that one day!
What do you do with the scrap?
Your videos are totally fun! I have never thrown a thing on a wheel but would love to (need to find a place near me). Wondering if you're going to get your donut tea pots into your etsy shop anytime soon. Would love to get one!
Love it!! absolutely love it!! very inspiring, thank you.
Omg the glaze!!!! Please what is that?!?! 🤤
Great video thank you I’m on my way to the studio to get started on the same thing! I’m wondering what would is your wedding table?
Thanks for the video, can't wait to try it! Do you glaze the pieces with a clear glaze, along with other glazes?
I would love to learn how to do this but everything costs so much and I am so busy! Plus, my mom would never let me do pottery, I already have too many hobbies.
sofia de la torre eh who cares what your mom thinks JUST DO IT BROSKI
Jon--- I use mason stains (MS) for flowers and leaves. I fight with all the greens. Often my beautiful mint green becomes ugly brown once clear glaze is applied. I've tried Amaco clear, zinc free and finally matte clear to maintain the green color. No luck. I mix my MS with b-mix to the desired color value and fire at cone 5. I've checked all of kilns and they're fine. Any guesses or suggestions?
Could watch throwing all day long!
Ahhhhh! I love this! Your videos are so epic - very entertaining but super simple. - did you ever do your carving out video??
marbled handles would look so awesome sauce!!!!
Hey JTP, Is there a reason you don't use the paving stones you made with the glass coasters? Do they cut your feet if you're barefoot? Do you still make and sell the glass coasters?
Does the rust change how the clay fires?
wow Jon That is so cool.
Love this! More, more, more!
Nice work bro
do you just re-wedge the trimmings into recycled clay to make other things?
Question: if it is going to be a mug, do you have to glaze it in some way? Sorry…I’m a newbie.
Wow I learned so much in this vid. I want to make a mug for my attorney but idk what im doing lol.
Great video! Can you just mix things like copper carbonate or cobalt carbonate into the clay dry just like mason stains? Do you ever get the dry stains wet first then mix in?
Love these! Awesome!
What is the white clay you used? You said it's a porcelain stoneware mix?
Hey Jon! Great video! Do you think you’ll be going to NCECA?
Me: Watchs Jonthepotter,
Me: I want to make pottery,
Me: asks mom if we have a pottery wheel,
Mom: I think so in the closet,
Me: looks finds a cheap kids pottery wheel *Oh this won't do*
Grace's pet life why would you just happen to have s professional pottery wheel
😂😂😂😂
As my son says: That is dope as a pope shaped soap on a rope.
your son is cool
cherries and wine I like him.
CAN WE USE other oxide colors, black yellow, brick red, etc.
Pretty!
Is there a reason you don't take the slip off the inside? I try to do both the inside and outside.
Beautiful
Hello I hope y’all have a great day
Can you use black iron oxide in the same way to colour clay?
Are you still doing review your pottery videos? I’d actually love to send you some stuff and some pictures
What is the name of that footing tool you were using?
Couldn't you get the lighter shade by just wedging the dark shade first and then breaking some of that dark shade off and mixing with white and rewedging?
Make a batch of rainbow marble pots 🤙🏼 all 7 colors 🌈
peter mckinnon of pottery, love it
Is it possible to make the handle marbled too?
Hello! I’m pretty much a pottery newbie... I’ve been looking at patties to catch any glazing drips.. are they bisque fired from the same clay the pots are made from?
Then simply placed under the item to be fire glazed.?
Hey Erika:) if you wax resist the bottoms and 1/4-1/2 inch of the bottom sides of the piece, you shouldn't have any problems with glaze sticking to the kiln shelf. Also, you can use kiln shelf stilts, little triangles of bosque ware that you set your piece on. But really, if you use wax on the bottom and sides (just a little bit up, like I said 1/4-1/2 inch) you should be fine. Flux over glaze *not all glaze but some* will make the glaze drip and run, but if you're careful, and use wax resist, you should be fine. Hope that helps!:)
How do you avoid air bubbles if you only wedge the clay twice?
Awesome!
OMG I’m obsessed. Only thing that’s holding me back from being a patreon is my partner. LOL.
I'm french ... i love your work but i don't understand what did you say :P
LOVE!!
Alguém pode me dizer o que ele mistura na massa?
Muito bom !!! 🇧🇷
I hate wedging 😭
I did too, for the better part of 2019, and then, I learned how to do it:) and now, it's no biggie. Maybe you just need to practice more?:)
Hello, I have a question about the iron oxide. Would the iron oxide be toxic and have to be handled with gloves or is this safe to do without gloves?
As far as I know it is safe to handle. There is red iron oxide in darker colored clay bodies which are safe to handle. Caution should me taken from the dust as with all things in ceramics , so a mask is a good idea when working with it.
Iron is relatively safe, but some other oxides and stains, should be used with caution, namely any heavy metal (Cobalt, manganese, etc.)