One. Can you fix a tire once the cupping starts ( tire pressure change) ? Or replace it? Front Second, my tenere has a new heidenau on the back, is it ok if I replace the cupping front to another brand, say the brand you just shown? Wasn't an issue on my KLR but some guys freak out doing it.
Mixing is a common practice. Normally a more aggressive front with a tire that will last longer on the rear. Once they cup you live with it or replace it
I've run the Mitas E-07s on my Tiger for the past two years and was always impressed, but with my skill set being less than a tenth of yours it's great to hear you like them as well. As always, great video - Keep them coming!
@Nilsfried Hahaha, make that 4. Ryan and crew are top notch. The other two are lesser known, Forty Times Around, and Mototrek Adventures. The latter has the best vlog on the TAT I've ever watched. The former is about "All things related to motorcycles, camping and adventure," produced by Tim Collins. He's an up and comer, 20k+ followers in roughly a yr.
@@norsefalconer Tim is a nice guy too. I have been following him for well over a year and he is much improved. So much great content from Brett, hope to take one of his classes one day.
The perfect tyre for adventure riding is like a unicorn. It's a fairy tale. To expect a tyre to perform like a dirt bike tyre on the trails and a superbike tyre on the bitumen is unrealistic. It's all about compromise and balance. Give up some speed and handling on the bitumen so you can have some grip and handling on the dirt and vice versa. The tyres I got with the R1200GSA (Anakee 3s) were really good on the bitumen but less than useless on dirt. (Also didn't last long thanks to my somewhat agressive riding style). I wanted but couldn't get the E07s so I got the E07+s and have been quite happy with them. Done some fairly gnarly, rocky, muddy slippery rides with them and can't fault their performance on and off road. Just have to modify my on road riding to suit the tyres. Bret, once again a great video, really enjoy your work and excellent production quality.
Used these tyres for three weeks and 4k miles around Morocco on and off road. They are superb tyres. No pressure loss and no damage to any of my cast rims on my standard 1200GS even after hitting some moon crater pot holes and massive boulders. Couldn't recommend them more highly.
He's right! I have these tires and they are awesome. Even his comment on the stiffness of the sidewall is right on! I've had 2 flats on my rear tire, and I have plenty of time to get over long before I feel like I'm riding on my rim. And yes, they are a little harder to put on. But I love them - I ride aggressively on the street and the dirt, and so far it's the best of both worlds.
Sorry, Sam. I WISH somebody would give us free tires :) Unfortunately not sponsored. MOTOTREK's producer, Tim, runs 705's on his Versys 650 and loves them. We made a video about that bike.
Along with training, putting these tyres on my V-Strom changed my ability offroad more than anything. I have heaps of confidence on gravel, mud, clay, wet and dry roads, everything I've asked, they've delivered. I've been very surprised by their all round performance. Awesome!
@@infotechsailor They've held up very well! I've gone through 3 sets now and love them! I've just clocked up 100,000km on my Strom and the front E07 has been on there since about 76,000. I don't have one on the rear at the moment though as when I needed a replacement tyre last December, I couldn't get one at all here in Australia due to Covid delays.
@@MrAusadventure I mounted a rear E-07 Dakar today and a TKC80 front. I just finished a 20 mile ride in the mountains with them. I will scrub them in over the rest of the summer. That rear tire was a pain in the arse to mount. I hope they feel as good as the guy in this video says they feel. You seem to have had good luck with them. My bike is a 2013 Husqvarna TR650 Terra. Thanks for your comment. I took off Dunlop D606(front and rear). Those tires ran great in the mountains here in Northern Idaho.
Hi Bret, This is my second season with the Mitas set-up and, yes I agree, this tire is the best 50/50 tire I've ever used. I started with the E-07 for both front and rear and went to Alaska, put close to 7,000km and the set. I now run the same front tire from that trip with the new rear E-07 plus. Now I have about 4,000km on the rear E-07 plus and the front has about 13,000km in total and still is in great shape. (No cupping like other tires I've used) Guys looking for a 50/50 high mileage tire, that will handle the heavy loads and still give you all traction and handling...I recommend the Mitas (Dakar) tire that gives you a stiffer sidewall for the heavier loads and rougher terrain. The rear E-07 (plus) gives you better traction, but you sacrifice the mileage. I still had awesome traction with the regular rear E-07 in mud and gravel and I felt very confident in the rain as well. Glad you did the vid on this tire as I think the name Mitas is still very new but has been around for a while in the dirt Bike world. I've used the Shinko, Continental, and a few others, but this is by far the best 50/50 tire for the big bore bikes. I try to sell this tire to my customers that are planning a long trip or looking for a 50/50 tire. But keep it a secret, because every time I go to order a set, they're always on Back Order. Lol Thanks again for the video. Scott
Let's hope then Mitas are watching this, so they bring them back. I had the E07s as well and loved them. Now they discontinued them and make only E07+, which are ok, but last only as much as TKC80s. Are you listening Mitas? You HAD the best 50-50 tyre, bring it back!
Yes, the new E-07+ is not as good. More expensive and doesn't last as long as the old one. I liked the smaller blocks on the old one as well. I don't know what they Mitas are thinking.
I have been running these on my 1200GS for about 4 months and I agree that they are one of the best tires I have found. Can confirm that they are extremely hard to mount!
Good point about narrow tyre cutting through to the base underneath easier. For years I ran wide mud tyres on my 4wd’s but eventually learnt that a taller tyre with narrow and all terrain profile tackled mud and steep rocky tracks better that the wider mud tyres. It could be aired down too, plus being taller it had more side wall and better protection against cuts and flats. I apply the same thinking to my motorcycle
The E-07 in the GS sizes are out-of-the market. Now you can find only the E-07+, with wider knobbies and "rounded" profile. If you run a bike sized 90-90 R21 and 150-70 R18 (Africa Twin, KTM 990, KTM 1090R, ....) you can find the front tire E-07 "old style" and the rear one with the new "plus" profile. Both E-07 and E-07+ are available in "dakar" compound that is stiffner and more durable.
I've been telling my friends this for a few years now.. totally agree with your assessment Bret.. these are so much quieter then most of the big block knobbies and unless I plan on riding somewhere with lots of mud, or competing in an offroad event or some such, where something like the MOTOZ Tractionator Adventure would probably be my choice, I tell most riders (when they ask me), don't waste your money on expensive big block knobbies, especially if you are riding 90% pavement.. best of all is the price.. about 30-40% less then the K60 for the win!!!!
It feels totally awesome to have your choice endorsed by Master Shifu! I love the E 07's and the only time I find them tricky is when I'm in a curve and have the need to brake suddenly. Great video as usual. :-)
This is the second set I fitted on a GS. In the same way the GS is the Swiss army knife of motorcycle, the Mitas are the Swiss army knife of tires. Not ideal in any condition, but a good compromise for everything. I'm not what you'd call a performance rider, and I will probably reach the limits of my skills before I reach the limits of the tires anyway. I went for a 1100 km ride last week-end. 300 of which on forest tracks, some jeep trails, and sand or gravel piste, and the rest on twisty back-roads and stretches of highways at 130 km/h. They are just perfect all rounders for that. Grip is fine, even under the rain, and don't find them noisy (at speed they may be noisy, the wind and engine noise cover it anyway). They are a bit more "vague" than street tires once you go above 110-120km/h, but nothing drastic.
Well, now I feel vindicated. Mine arrived in the mail Saturday. After months and months of research in forums, etc; finally settled in the e07’s to replace my stock Trail Wings. Bret putting this video out only days later sure makes me feel that the hesitation on purchase and long internet research hours paid off! Thanks!
Good choice, I’ve been running an E07+ on the rear for about 12mos and I’ve been very happy with performance on road and in the slick mud. I’m certainly getting another set when it wears out.
I've used front and rear Continental TKC80's on my GS for 5-6 years already. Very happy with traction both on dirt and also even on dry tar. I get about 4000 good km's on the rear (2500 miles), but that's the only disadvantage I can see.
I love the way you break it down fundamentally! You and Fortnine are tied for my very favorite channels on youtube. I can’t wait to come take a class with you some day.
Just went with Mitas 08 with more road bias, next set will be 07. Tks for no frills just your choice, no confusing tradeoffs for comparison purposes. Just a point on the nomenclature of 50/50, etc., which i don't dig, when you cross those puddles they seem pretty much 100% what they are, or sand or whatever. Well done as always, cheers.
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I've run all 3 (K60, TKC80 and E07) and by far prefer the E07 for the rear tire. Tried them all on my Vstrom and now my Super Tenere. I run the TKC80 for the front, it works better in the sand and mud. The K60 is down right scary on hard packed roads that have some loose gravel on top because of the huge solid block of rubber running down the middle (150 size). The E07 allows the gravel to get into the grooves rather than ride on top of the stones. The TKC80 just doesn't last long enough on the rear and is much louder with more vibes. My current rear E07 has 21,3xx km on it and needs to be replaced very soon. The replacement E07 is in my garage ready to go on 🙂.
I love having my own opinion validated by someone with way more experience than I have. I did go with the Dakar version for the even greater sidewall stiffness. Lots of very sharp rocks in my usual riding areas.
@@andrewpalermo2987 hi, no it does not. It’s quiet and won’t give any front wobble, but having said I just changed my tires to a Motoz set, Dual Venture in the front and Rallyz in the rear. The Dakar is great but the rear well has that center line which is made for pavement, it’s is a great 50/50 tire though. But I realized that I needed a more aggressive thread pattern and the Motoz are way better in that sense but they are louder for sure. But at 75 or 85 mph sometimes I get a wobble.
I can 100% confirm with this review. I've got the non + Dakar versions on my old xtz 750. The 1st 10 miles or so I thought I'd made a big mistake, I had to double check I didn't have a flat tyre as they felt really strange but after that break in period.... wow! They are brilliant on the road and confidence inspiring on the trails in everything except sticky mud or clay! If you want a tyre that still works brilliantly on the road but can handle messing about on green lanes etc on a heavy adv bike, then you won't have any regrets with this tyre. I've done about 2k miles and they are about half done so reasonable. I've previously used more road orientated tyres like tourance and anakees and they are both no better on road and sketchy on anything other than light tracks etc. E07 standard Dakar 10/10 for what I wanted out of a tyre
Congratulaions.. one out of a video that brings us the truth about equipment and out of selling strategies.. Thanks again to your crew . hi from İstanbul-Turkey
These came OEM on my 2021 KTM690ER and they have astounding road grip, I have worn all the Hero knobs down on the edges front and rear and at 100 mph + speeds they are dead stable. Off road they grip much better than they look like they should and I have used them in deep mud and been really surprised at their grip. The only thing is the central strip wears out thick too quickly so reduces the off road life. Ironically the plus + version without the central strip will last longer for dual purpose use although probably reduces road only life. I am replacing my OEM at 4k miles with the Non central strip plus+ version.
Well said sir. I have to agree on the Mitas E07. I've run them on: a DR650, V-Strom DL650, and my R1150GS and I've run all my bikes on the same types trails and roads with similar results, excellent tires. I still run them and will continue to.
Yep, I can totaly agree on this. Used to have Mitas E-07 on my previous bike - they were cheap and totaly worth the money. On my bike now i'm riding i have Heidenau K60 scouts, they cost almost twice as the Mitas, but not much better. So going for Mitas again later.
@@cdnabn49 Did not have that issue on the Mitas E-07 but it was a while ago, now they don't make E-07 but make E-07 plus, which probably has some changes in the rubber mixture
I too live in the Northwest, and will be looking at tires for a bit of travel on gravel or logging roads. I ride quit a bit on asphalt, using my f700gs to commute too. As my concern is often not that similar to SoCal tire testers,(wet cold asphalt), I follow your recs more than most. I’d like to see your current tire reviews comparing this tire to the Trailmax Mission. Thanks.
I ran these for my last set of tires and liked them quite a bit. Inexpensive and super rugged. I got 12k miles from the rear and the front still looks good for twice that. I don't get offroad enough to keep running them so I switched to a more street tire, but if I had a big offroad trip planned I'd go back to these. Great tire life, great grip, a bit noisier and milage suffers a bit on the road.
I used this combo on my 1190R going to Tuk late July 2018 (and then Alaska and then Bella Coola), was great. Had some horrible days weather/rain/mud/whatever that road turned into when it was wet. Only crappy part was when the rear was totally squared off, on the last few 100 km on the Duffy and Sea 2 Sky to Vancouver. No fun looking to die at the end of a trip......Running K60's now (again) and super fun for road but about to do a bunch of BDR's and thinking I should switch back. Oh look the video isn't sponsored.
I am running TKC80 front and E07 rear on my KTM 640 Adventure and great combo i would say. Realy deep mud is showstopper but anywhere else i am able to go without problem and on the road I can do insane angles with nearly touching pegs to asphalt
Got just over 10k KM's out of my E07's and have a good 3-4k more left in them. Once they get down to the second band marks the footprint in the centre does widen out quite a lot. Going to go the Dakar version of the E07's next as they have the same design but don't have the solid centre band when you where them down
@@RouteNRide fair enough - personally I have used the K60 Scouts for a couple of years both on & off the road and rate them highly (apart from the howling at speed)
@@guy.h If you are happy with the K60 you will love the e07. As I said they are perfectly mediocre in all conditions with a nod in the direction of dirt. I am on my 6th set and ran the K60's for years. The K60 only does one thing better than any other tire... mileage. The K60 is great for long tours where tires are hard to come by. on a side note I prefer the e07 or e07 Dakar over the e07 +
@@wathafish1 any hard compound Adv tire is going to be skittish on wet pavement.. just need to understand and respect the limits of the traction.. i.e. don't push the limits, you'll be fine
An old man enduro/dualsport rider once told me don't spend too much time looking for the perfect tire. He said after 4 or 5 tries quit searching and PICK ONE already! Keep what you pick and let that be YOUR tire. Also have an extra set on hand in case a last minute big ride/event comes up and your current set are too worn for such an event. The last thing you wanna do is mount whatever is immediately available from a local store and later be scrambling down a loose rocky hill on strange rubber.
I ran E07 Dakar’s cross country, on several bikes...an excellent tire. Spot on review. That being said they’re kinda sketchy in the rain. After those roached out I slapped TKC80’s on and to be honest ... I feel like they’re just as good. The confidence and grip they offer is tough to beat. Downside they’re soft and the tarmac eats em up. Love both tires!
@@seregamozetmnoga1700 mate, it's actually not the same tire! You're probably thinking of the Dakar version of E-07. The newer "E-07+" has a totally different tread pattern with larger blocks.
@@HardwareG33k I am looking for the actual kg this Dakar Version can take compared to the normal E-07 (which I have and which says 340kg on the tyre) to decide if its worth while to upgrade, ...but I can´t find a concrete number for that. Every source is just vague saying "can take more load". Do you have you any idea?
Hey Bret. Great video and thanks. Where are you getting the E-07 in the original version? I can only find the E-07+ for the BMW GS. Do you have any comments on the difference between the original and + versions?
This was one of the very best and informative videos I've seen on UA-cam. I already have these tyres on my bike and agree with you 100%. I subscribed after watching this video. A+!
Love them! But in South Africa the Mitas is sometimes a bit more expensive than the K60's. At the time of this video mitas is cheaper.The really weird thing for me was I was afraid to go from anakee3 to these because I thought the road noise would be much more but I found anakee3 to be a very loud tyre after fitting the k60's and you said the mitas is even quieter. Will try them next if I can just get the k60's to wear off.
Thanks for this Bret. Very timely for me. I run Shinko 705s , mostly because i don't want to lose my on road traction, which is also why i chose the wider version of it. I've heard that thinner means better off-road and this explains it very well. A subscriber with the same bike as me (CB500X, mine is stock) recently asked me if I chose the wider or thinner version of the shinko and i told him why I picked the thicker, as I just explained above. So this video has me pretty much prepared to try the E-07's next. Over the years I have sought more and more challenges off-road, slowly, as I started old, lol, but I know the Shinkos won't cut it in deep sand or mud and I don't want to limit my exploring because of that. It always seems to be an expensive experiment to me trying new tyres, so having information like this is beyond valuable. Because of the excellent way you explain your reasoning in your videos I am happy to trust your opinion and give it a go. I will also point that subscriber to this video as it answers questions that I couldn't. Keep up the great work man!
My fellow PNW rider...Rain + Tarmac= Mitas 7? I ride all year around, 20+F bone dry or pouring torrential rain commutes, I ride. I have a 40 mile commute up I-5...on the way home I occasionally (at least twice a week) take the “Long way” home. Twisty back roads, hairpins and 20mph bends...long fast straights and then farm roads with no traffic. Then on the weekends, most family and friends know I’m out exploring the Coastal Range or Cascades (extreme weather permitting). Right now I’m running Continental TrailAttack3 for their amazing wear and wet grip, but they are a 90/10 tires (street/off-road) and don’t inspire a lot of confidence on the usual Oregon fire road but they work phenomenal in heavy standing water at 65mph. I plan to change, come spring time, to a more aggressive trail tire but I need wet weather traction for the weekly commutes when we get a gusher late spring. My bike is a ‘19 Triumph ScramblerXE 1200...I’m 10k plus miles in 8 months. I swapped out the terrible stock Tourances at 6500 miles early October and have been super pleased with the Contis for the last 3500 miles but again, I’m looking forward to more off road this coming year. I appreciate your videos and your time if you choose to chime in! Ride on my friend🤙🏾
Thanks for the great review Bret. I have these tires on my 2014 Moto Guzzi Stelvio NTX 1200. Just finished the Washington BDR for a week long off-road trip, no leaks issues. The tires did marvelous. I went down once only, but due to my stupidity (too fast for my own good). Never lost traction in tricky rocky uphill. I have the Dakar version and I'm sure the stiff walls helped prevent side damage issues in some of the hard embedded rock stuff that I put them through. Also, on way back on asphalt they felt stable at highway speeds on curvy roads. All this in the dry. Can't speak to wet traction yet. Really happy with them, and given that they are hard to mount/dismount it just means they are going to force me to keep them on and get more off-road trips done! :-)
Can I ask for a video? I purchased a F700GS, however, I realize that I am a total ignorant in tire size, tube, no-tube, or others. Can you discuss that? including spares tubes and tires for long rides. Thank you
Your F700GS is running tubeless tyres. It has a 140/80-17 in the back and 110/80-19 in the front. Pretty popular rim size so you can fit any tyres from road to adventure to knobby ones.
Well I’ve finally had the chance to put some serious miles on them in order to comment. The first week or so was all fire roads with everything from mud to gravel. In mud I find they handle nicely with no surprises. Sure you’re sliding but they feel like my TKC 80s in that regard. And on loose and hardpack dirt they are outstanding. Deep gravel.....well let’s just say everything I’ve ever ridden sucks in that stuff. I’m now on the road for three weeks fully loaded (1200gsa) with camping gear and the works. On the pavement they have a tendency to wander compared to my Anakee 3 street tires, but you get used to that pretty quick. In the corners they hook up nicely until you really start to push and then they feel a bit loose. But as I said I’ve got my bike loaded. And never did I feel like I was going to wash out. I’ll put about 5000 km on them during this trip so we’ll see how they wear but so far I’m really impressed and will buy them again when they’re toast.
I loved the Mitas E07 on my Africa Twin. Wore it out and tried to go with it again but only able to get E07+. That did not last near as long as EO7. Had a Michelin Anakee Wild and it lasted about as long as the E07+. Just spooned on a Motoz Tractionater ADV. More expensive so hopefully it will live up to high mileage that everyone says they are getting with them. Heading out for a 1,000 mile run next week.
Appreciate the great insight on these, have been curious about these - just finished testing the Metzeler Karoo Streets (practically a track tire on the road - not great off-road and wear out in 2500 miles in the rear), also tested the oddball Kenda Big Block Paver Rear (great on pavement once warm, slightly spooky when cold & wet, better than expected off-road run at 34psi - don't bother even looking at the front KBBP), at the ADV Rally in November, I intended to run the Metzeler Karoo 3 in the front and the Shinko 805 in the rear (experience with both these on other bikes have been really good off-road) - Now that I am hearing such good info about the Mitas E-07, I may hop for those instead - thanks for all the great insight, not found elsewhere!
Spot on about these tyres and the benefits of that tough bead and thick side wall. Birdsville track last year, I'd checked my tyres before breaking camp at Deadman's Dune. All good, but a faulty valve ( only spare I needed and didn't have!) later meant I had to ride my fully loaded DR 650 on a flat rear the last 80km to Birdsville. Replaced the valve and pumped it up and carried on.
I've used these for the past 3k miles. The front tire does not hold air. If you check the forums, this is a common issue. I loose about 2psi to 5psi per day. The BMW dealer reset the need twice. It seeps air like a whistle.
Currently running a 150/70/18 (R) on my Africa Twin ... good solid tire, just ease off the power going rounf corners on wet tar, otherwise all good! Running a 90/90/21 Michelin Anakee Wild on the front, so far this has been a great combo in all conditions. (Note: The Mitas E07 (F) was always the "weak-link", the rear is super-capable, the front-end less so, especially in loose sand or mud ... the Michelin fixes that issue. Thanks for another great video Brett!
I still feel good with my fat-large tires at the rear (180 mm) and tkc 80. The grip is magnificent on any not-solid terrain, even on the rocks. I know, everybody say that I'm totally wrong: the tyre has to "dig" the terrain. But I'm not still convinced of that... Extreme situation: why on the sand specilized bike and cars are equipped with fat tires?
I have been using Continental TkC80s mainly commuting, but have driven through mushy mud and snow, as well, with better ability than I ever thought possible. Getting close to 4000 miles on them on a 2015 V Strom 650. No bulges or or choppy tread patterns showing up. Good video info, as always, Ya’ll!
I’ve made 2 trips to the Arctic on them. On the Dempster and Dalton front tire traction is my biggest concern, I wonder if the E10 on front would be a good match for a rear E07? Bike is a 1200GS.
I currently have these on my Africa Twin and completely agree with your video. However, the one downside for me is that once you have a few K's on them, the center tread line on the rear can be a problem in muddy slippery trails. That's for me anyway, probably lack of skill plays a part but my shinko 805's felt much better in similar conditions.
Bret, love the video and without a doubt trust your opinion!! I have even more respect for someone 'in the know" when they poke the bear with a video on tires!! haha LOVE IT!! Maybe next you should do a video on oil! lol
thoses on this video are E07, E07 dakar have the same treads but with a stiffer sidewall (they also have a yellow stripe all the way around) E07+ have a different tread , it's looks like they didn't have the wear bar in the centerline.
@@BretTkacs What do you prefer about the non +? Is the difference coming down to your balance of use just not being worth the (perceived) offroad bias of the + or is there something else you don't like about the +? When would you recommend the Dakar vs the standard? I totally understand this all just personal preference and your opinion but I very much value your opinion. I have a similar sized bike and live in the northwest as well so your experience is very relevant to me.
@@Clickmaster5k I prefer the traction characteristics of the extra "edges" and the quiet running of the e07. The Dakar is made for heavier bikes but I have never been able to tell any difference in performance or mileage between the two. I am on Dakars now and have run standard e07's in the past.
I ran E07 Dakar’s front and rear last summer on my F800GSA fully loaded for 8100 miles from Seattle up to Prudoe Bay and Tuktoyaktuk and more. The first few days the front wandered pretty bad but settled in. After that they were great on and off road. Even during pouring rain on the Dalton they hooked up well. When I got home the rear was pretty much done and the front still had some life. I did wish the front was a little more aggressive and ran into a guy running the E07 rear with an E10 front. He said it was excellent and seemed to wear such that both were done at the same time. Normally I run Shinko 804/805 as they are excellent but wouldn’t have the range of the Mitas for such a long ride. This summer I am doing the TAT on the same bike and am again considering Mitas due to the longevity but maybe going with the E10 front. Have you had experience with them?
As always an excellent video. Your recommendation means a lot. I know you advocate stock tire pressure for large adventure bikes. What is your experience with cast wheels vs spoked wheels with regards to rim damage if proper tire pressure is used. I have a 1290 SAS and would like to venture out to offroad roads next season. How strongly would you advise that I get spoked wheels. Thank you!
There are a lot of questions I'd ask you before advising you but for most riders I'd say don't sweat it. Worse case but spoke wheels of you damage your cat wheels. I have few issues with cast wheels
Bret Tkacs thank you Bret. I ended up getting a set of spoked wheels plus the Mitas E-07+ and started my offroad adventure with a 2 day training. I had an absolute blast and learned a lot. Next year's plan is an offroad trip somewhere in Europe 😉
Might want to define the size of the ride as part of the mission. Big difference between that big supertanker ADV/dual sport in this video and something the size of a WR250R or similar 250cc - 450 cc bike doing the same rides. I'm in the small bikes group doing dual sport/ADV rides here in the mountains of the Continental Divide in NW Montana/Idaho and SE British Columbia and SW Alberta. Very little mud and sand in this environment, but a lot of hard packed dirt roads and forest service roads that have layers of built up gravel in the corners that the front tire has to deal with.
I'm wondering is the + version is different. Was at local BMW dealer and noticed new e07+ on newer model GS, did not have strip down the middle. Was told by parts guy that the ribless tread is on the wider sizes for the liquid cooled bike.
I have run two sets of K60’s on my Triumph Explorers and loved them. I have a yamaha super tenere now with the Mita’s E07 Dakars and absolutely hate these tires. They sound like a 4 wheel drive going down the highway, the handle bars have a buzz that can make your hands a bit numb after a while. They were fine for the first 3K miles or so and then they became a problem. I noticed that they tend to slip in the rain a little more than the K60’s. I talked to Mita and they told me that they thought it might be a balance issue. They also said they will not warrant the tires if there is a problem since they have 4K miles on them...I did not even ask for a warranty resolution. Just trying to find out what might the problem. Great customer service, right? I am going to rebalance the tire to see...not expecting much. Thats my two cents.
800 or 1200? depending on your bike's wet weight, you might wanna adjust the pressure according your combined bike and rider weight and not from the bike tire pressure sticker.
Looking at the mitas tread pattern and using my same logic from selecting 4wd tyres led me here. Makes perfect sense so looking forward to getting a set on my old Husky TE 510.
Just did 4,500 kms around my country on and off road with E07+ front and rear and they were excellent. There was 11mm of depth on rear when new and 7 now so hoping to get 8-10k out of them. Scrambler 1200 XE.
I just got a set of these for my Africa twin and I like them so far. What pressure are you running on them? I run mine at 29 psi on the front and 36 psi on the rear.
I certainly will take your word for it that these tires are as you say. I definitely don’t want to damage my Akront’s and love the mileage factor. For sure not a gorgeous tread, but I’m not made of money so a Bridgestone Battlax XC42 at 3/5k miles tread wear although a gorgeous looking tire, just doesn’t make sense. I know we are going for keeping the shiny side up and making it from A to B. Great video!
I have been using the Shinko 705 and 800's. 705's currently. They behave well and cheap. Guess I will have to try a set of Mitas. My rear tire is pretty much done after 4k miles. It is hot desert where I ride so I think the tires melt/wear faster.
the Shinko's are definitely softer then the Mitas so while you do save some $ up front, I think your experience is about right.. 4-5k miles max.. so for only about a third more $, the Mitas last maybe twice as long?
hi Bret. I’ll like to ask you what tire pressure do you recommend when riding offroad.
normally I run the same pressure offroad as on road. 38/42 on the low end 30/36 but that seldom happens
This is a trick question. You gotta run just enough pressure to not bend your rims.
@@BretTkacs that follows what you say on the video, wanting min contact area and maximum lbs/sq in.
One. Can you fix a tire once the cupping starts ( tire pressure change) ? Or replace it? Front
Second, my tenere has a new heidenau on the back, is it ok if I replace the cupping front to another brand, say the brand you just shown? Wasn't an issue on my KLR but some guys freak out doing it.
Mixing is a common practice. Normally a more aggressive front with a tire that will last longer on the rear.
Once they cup you live with it or replace it
I've run the Mitas E-07s on my Tiger for the past two years and was always impressed, but with my skill set being less than a tenth of yours it's great to hear you like them as well. As always, great video - Keep them coming!
I have three channels where I hit the "like" button before I even watch. Mototrek IS one of those three.
@Nilsfried Hahaha, make that 4. Ryan and crew are top notch. The other two are lesser known, Forty Times Around, and Mototrek Adventures. The latter has the best vlog on the TAT I've ever watched. The former is about "All things related to motorcycles, camping and adventure," produced by Tim Collins. He's an up and comer, 20k+ followers in roughly a yr.
@@norsefalconer Tim is a nice guy too. I have been following him for well over a year and he is much improved. So much great content from Brett, hope to take one of his classes one day.
The perfect tyre for adventure riding is like a unicorn. It's a fairy tale. To expect a tyre to perform like a dirt bike tyre on the trails and a superbike tyre on the bitumen is unrealistic. It's all about compromise and balance. Give up some speed and handling on the bitumen so you can have some grip and handling on the dirt and vice versa. The tyres I got with the R1200GSA (Anakee 3s) were really good on the bitumen but less than useless on dirt. (Also didn't last long thanks to my somewhat agressive riding style). I wanted but couldn't get the E07s so I got the E07+s and have been quite happy with them. Done some fairly gnarly, rocky, muddy slippery rides with them and can't fault their performance on and off road. Just have to modify my on road riding to suit the tyres.
Bret, once again a great video, really enjoy your work and excellent production quality.
Used these tyres for three weeks and 4k miles around Morocco on and off road. They are superb tyres. No pressure loss and no damage to any of my cast rims on my standard 1200GS even after hitting some moon crater pot holes and massive boulders. Couldn't recommend them more highly.
He's right! I have these tires and they are awesome. Even his comment on the stiffness of the sidewall is right on! I've had 2 flats on my rear tire, and I have plenty of time to get over long before I feel like I'm riding on my rim. And yes, they are a little harder to put on. But I love them - I ride aggressively on the street and the dirt, and so far it's the best of both worlds.
You did a great job explaining your bold declaration that the E07 is the best ADV tire.
Appreciate the fact you weren't sponsored for this.
I'm certain he's sponsored by them. He didn't even test the Shinko 705 which is way better than E07.
Sorry, Sam. I WISH somebody would give us free tires :) Unfortunately not sponsored.
MOTOTREK's producer, Tim, runs 705's on his Versys 650 and loves them. We made a video about that bike.
Maybe he just bought a pair of E07s and could not get them off the rim so decided to pretend it's a good tyre....
Along with training, putting these tyres on my V-Strom changed my ability offroad more than anything. I have heaps of confidence on gravel, mud, clay, wet and dry roads, everything I've asked, they've delivered. I've been very surprised by their all round performance. Awesome!
How have the mitas held up on your Strom? Putting lots of miles on your vstrom?
@@infotechsailor They've held up very well! I've gone through 3 sets now and love them! I've just clocked up 100,000km on my Strom and the front E07 has been on there since about 76,000. I don't have one on the rear at the moment though as when I needed a replacement tyre last December, I couldn't get one at all here in Australia due to Covid delays.
@@MrAusadventure I mounted a rear E-07 Dakar today and a TKC80 front. I just finished a 20 mile ride in the mountains with them. I will scrub them in over the rest of the summer. That rear tire was a pain in the arse to mount. I hope they feel as good as the guy in this video says they feel. You seem to have had good luck with them. My bike is a 2013 Husqvarna TR650 Terra. Thanks for your comment. I took off Dunlop D606(front and rear). Those tires ran great in the mountains here in Northern Idaho.
Hi Bret, This is my second season with the Mitas set-up and, yes I agree, this tire is the best 50/50 tire I've ever used. I started with the E-07 for both front and rear and went to Alaska, put close to 7,000km and the set. I now run the same front tire from that trip with the new rear E-07 plus. Now I have about 4,000km on the rear E-07 plus and the front has about 13,000km in total and still is in great shape. (No cupping like other tires I've used)
Guys looking for a 50/50 high mileage tire, that will handle the heavy loads and still give you all traction and handling...I recommend the Mitas (Dakar) tire that gives you a stiffer sidewall for the heavier loads and rougher terrain.
The rear E-07 (plus) gives you better traction, but you sacrifice the mileage. I still had awesome traction with the regular rear E-07 in mud and gravel and I felt very confident in the rain as well.
Glad you did the vid on this tire as I think the name Mitas is still very new but has been around for a while in the dirt Bike world. I've used the Shinko, Continental, and a few others, but this is by far the best 50/50 tire for the big bore bikes. I try to sell this tire to my customers that are planning a long trip or looking for a 50/50 tire.
But keep it a secret, because every time I go to order a set, they're always on Back Order. Lol
Thanks again for the video.
Scott
Thanks for the useful feedback
Hi. So E0Z are better on road than Dakar would be ?
I've run these Mitas for 3 years on my Triumph Tiger 800 and agree they are an awesome all round tyre. 😀
Oh come on you're on a 100% street bike why
@@grren1782 - ha ha... cause I live in Thailand and go on roads and the dirt...
@@bobz1736 why do you have a tiger.
Apart from the gospel singing, whining and/or whistling sound/noise from these tires, right? ;-)
Let's hope then Mitas are watching this, so they bring them back. I had the E07s as well and loved them. Now they discontinued them and make only E07+, which are ok, but last only as much as TKC80s. Are you listening Mitas? You HAD the best 50-50 tyre, bring it back!
Yes, the new E-07+ is not as good. More expensive and doesn't last as long as the old one. I liked the smaller blocks on the old one as well. I don't know what they Mitas are thinking.
I have been running these on my 1200GS for about 4 months and I agree that they are one of the best tires I have found. Can confirm that they are extremely hard to mount!
Kauritmoto TMT (Tyre Mounting Tool) or the knock-off Baja No-Pinch Tyre Tool. No tyre will ever be hard to mount again!
Good point about narrow tyre cutting through to the base underneath easier. For years I ran wide mud tyres on my 4wd’s but eventually learnt that a taller tyre with narrow and all terrain profile tackled mud and steep rocky tracks better that the wider mud tyres. It could be aired down too, plus being taller it had more side wall and better protection against cuts and flats. I apply the same thinking to my motorcycle
Agreed! Had the E-07's on my Ténéré 660 and now on my F800GS ADV. The best tire money can buy for adventure riding!
Old tenere 660? What size of rear tire? i have now 130/70-17 and think about more wide like 140 or 150
The E-07 in the GS sizes are out-of-the market. Now you can find only the E-07+, with wider knobbies and "rounded" profile.
If you run a bike sized 90-90 R21 and 150-70 R18 (Africa Twin, KTM 990, KTM 1090R, ....) you can find the front tire E-07 "old style" and the rear one with the new "plus" profile.
Both E-07 and E-07+ are available in "dakar" compound that is stiffner and more durable.
yeah, Mitas even mentions running that combo on their website (old and new model) www.mitas-moto.com/en/products/motorcycle--trail--tires/e-07
Would love to hear your thoughts on the E07+
I've been telling my friends this for a few years now.. totally agree with your assessment Bret.. these are so much quieter then most of the big block knobbies and unless I plan on riding somewhere with lots of mud, or competing in an offroad event or some such, where something like the MOTOZ Tractionator Adventure would probably be my choice, I tell most riders (when they ask me), don't waste your money on expensive big block knobbies, especially if you are riding 90% pavement.. best of all is the price.. about 30-40% less then the K60 for the win!!!!
they look good i have been runing k60's scouts for years and years managed to go 30 miles on a flat tire and it did not come off the rim
Yup. He's right again. I have the Dakar version on my Africa twin and it feels great, especially on the trail.
It feels totally awesome to have your choice endorsed by Master Shifu! I love the E 07's and the only time I find them tricky is when I'm in a curve and have the need to brake suddenly. Great video as usual. :-)
I totally agree. We have just bought the E-07 and absolutely love them!
But who is we?
This is the second set I fitted on a GS.
In the same way the GS is the Swiss army knife of motorcycle, the Mitas are the Swiss army knife of tires. Not ideal in any condition, but a good compromise for everything. I'm not what you'd call a performance rider, and I will probably reach the limits of my skills before I reach the limits of the tires anyway.
I went for a 1100 km ride last week-end. 300 of which on forest tracks, some jeep trails, and sand or gravel piste, and the rest on twisty back-roads and stretches of highways at 130 km/h. They are just perfect all rounders for that.
Grip is fine, even under the rain, and don't find them noisy (at speed they may be noisy, the wind and engine noise cover it anyway). They are a bit more "vague" than street tires once you go above 110-120km/h, but nothing drastic.
agree with everything you said
Well, now I feel vindicated. Mine arrived in the mail Saturday. After months and months of research in forums, etc; finally settled in the e07’s to replace my stock Trail Wings. Bret putting this video out only days later sure makes me feel that the hesitation on purchase and long internet research hours paid off! Thanks!
After the death wings... err... trail wings you will be very happy I'm sure
Good choice, I’ve been running an E07+ on the rear for about 12mos and I’ve been very happy with performance on road and in the slick mud. I’m certainly getting another set when it wears out.
I've used front and rear Continental TKC80's on my GS for 5-6 years already. Very happy with traction both on dirt and also even on dry tar. I get about 4000 good km's on the rear (2500 miles), but that's the only disadvantage I can see.
The TKC is still the bench mark most tires are compared against. Mileage is its Achilles heal
Mototrek, excellent and useful video but I would have liked some comment on front end edge grip when cornering offroad?
Totally agree. I have them on my Africa Twin Adventure Sport... love them on paved or gravel -- dry OR wet and slippery.
I love the way you break it down fundamentally! You and Fortnine are tied for my very favorite channels on youtube. I can’t wait to come take a class with you some day.
Just went with Mitas 08 with more road bias, next set will be 07. Tks for no frills just your choice, no confusing tradeoffs for comparison purposes. Just a point on the nomenclature of 50/50, etc., which i don't dig, when you cross those puddles they seem pretty much 100% what they are, or sand or whatever. Well done as always, cheers.
I love my Heidenau K60 Scout! Nearly 19000 km on them before I changed to new ones! Maybe I test the Mitas next year :)
19000 kms !! Thats practically eternity! Good for you. :-)
I'm using those too and I love em! I'll go for the Mitas next time although I can't see much of a difference to the Heidenaus.
Hello.
Yes, Haidenau K60 Scout is an excellent alternative to MITAS.
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and yes !! Mr. Brezovar is a crazy man -)))
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I've run all 3 (K60, TKC80 and E07) and by far prefer the E07 for the rear tire. Tried them all on my Vstrom and now my Super Tenere. I run the TKC80 for the front, it works better in the sand and mud. The K60 is down right scary on hard packed roads that have some loose gravel on top because of the huge solid block of rubber running down the middle (150 size). The E07 allows the gravel to get into the grooves rather than ride on top of the stones. The TKC80 just doesn't last long enough on the rear and is much louder with more vibes. My current rear E07 has 21,3xx km on it and needs to be replaced very soon. The replacement E07 is in my garage ready to go on 🙂.
I am disappointed with the Mitas, just 8000km out of the rear tire. I will go back to the scouts
I love having my own opinion validated by someone with way more experience than I have.
I did go with the Dakar version for the even greater sidewall stiffness. Lots of very sharp rocks in my usual riding areas.
Same for me here. I have the Dakar on a so far I love them
@@MatheusFerreira-lg3pl Hey you two. Does the Dakar version 'sing' too much and/or give you too much shake on pavement? thx for your thoughts
@@andrewpalermo2987 hi, no it does not. It’s quiet and won’t give any front wobble, but having said I just changed my tires to a Motoz set, Dual Venture in the front and Rallyz in the rear. The Dakar is great but the rear well has that center line which is made for pavement, it’s is a great 50/50 tire though. But I realized that I needed a more aggressive thread pattern and the Motoz are way better in that sense but they are louder for sure. But at 75 or 85 mph sometimes I get a
wobble.
@@MatheusFerreira-lg3pl Awesome thanks!
I can 100% confirm with this review. I've got the non + Dakar versions on my old xtz 750. The 1st 10 miles or so I thought I'd made a big mistake, I had to double check I didn't have a flat tyre as they felt really strange but after that break in period.... wow! They are brilliant on the road and confidence inspiring on the trails in everything except sticky mud or clay! If you want a tyre that still works brilliantly on the road but can handle messing about on green lanes etc on a heavy adv bike, then you won't have any regrets with this tyre. I've done about 2k miles and they are about half done so reasonable. I've previously used more road orientated tyres like tourance and anakees and they are both no better on road and sketchy on anything other than light tracks etc. E07 standard Dakar 10/10 for what I wanted out of a tyre
Congratulaions.. one out of a video that brings us the truth about equipment and out of selling strategies.. Thanks again to your crew . hi from İstanbul-Turkey
These came OEM on my 2021 KTM690ER and they have astounding road grip, I have worn all the Hero knobs down on the edges front and rear and at 100 mph + speeds they are dead stable. Off road they grip much better than they look like they should and I have used them in deep mud and been really surprised at their grip. The only thing is the central strip wears out thick too quickly so reduces the off road life. Ironically the plus + version without the central strip will last longer for dual purpose use although probably reduces road only life. I am replacing my OEM at 4k miles with the Non central strip plus+ version.
Well said sir.
I have to agree on the Mitas E07.
I've run them on: a DR650, V-Strom DL650, and my R1150GS and I've run all my bikes on the same types trails and roads with similar results, excellent tires. I still run them and will continue to.
Yep, I can totaly agree on this. Used to have Mitas E-07 on my previous bike - they were cheap and totaly worth the money. On my bike now i'm riding i have Heidenau K60 scouts, they cost almost twice as the Mitas, but not much better. So going for Mitas again later.
any isuues with chunking on the tread?
@@cdnabn49 Did not have that issue on the Mitas E-07 but it was a while ago, now they don't make E-07 but make E-07 plus, which probably has some changes in the rubber mixture
Hi Mr. Brett, in 2022, do you still consider the mitas E07 to be the best adventure tires?
Yes please!
Please !
Can u please do a similar video for the e-07+ ?
I too live in the Northwest, and will be looking at tires for a bit of travel on gravel or logging roads. I ride quit a bit on asphalt, using my f700gs to commute too. As my concern is often not that similar to SoCal tire testers,(wet cold asphalt), I follow your recs more than most. I’d like to see your current tire reviews comparing this tire to the Trailmax Mission.
Thanks.
I ran these for my last set of tires and liked them quite a bit. Inexpensive and super rugged. I got 12k miles from the rear and the front still looks good for twice that.
I don't get offroad enough to keep running them so I switched to a more street tire, but if I had a big offroad trip planned I'd go back to these.
Great tire life, great grip, a bit noisier and milage suffers a bit on the road.
I have the Continental TKC80 front and the E-07+ on the rear. So far a great combination on the KTM 1090r.
I used this combo on my 1190R going to Tuk late July 2018 (and then Alaska and then Bella Coola), was great. Had some horrible days weather/rain/mud/whatever that road turned into when it was wet. Only crappy part was when the rear was totally squared off, on the last few 100 km on the Duffy and Sea 2 Sky to Vancouver. No fun looking to die at the end of a trip......Running K60's now (again) and super fun for road but about to do a bunch of BDR's and thinking I should switch back. Oh look the video isn't sponsored.
Same combo for me and my S10.
I am running TKC80 front and E07 rear on my KTM 640 Adventure and great combo i would say. Realy deep mud is showstopper but anywhere else i am able to go without problem and on the road I can do insane angles with nearly touching pegs to asphalt
Got just over 10k KM's out of my E07's and have a good 3-4k more left in them. Once they get down to the second band marks the footprint in the centre does widen out quite a lot. Going to go the Dakar version of the E07's next as they have the same design but don't have the solid centre band when you where them down
When this guy talks I listen lol. I'll probly end up getting these
Dont do it. Terrible tyre in wet conditions.
@@wathafish1 terrible compared to what?
@@RouteNRide fair enough - personally I have used the K60 Scouts for a couple of years both on & off the road and rate them highly (apart from the howling at speed)
@@guy.h If you are happy with the K60 you will love the e07. As I said they are perfectly mediocre in all conditions with a nod in the direction of dirt. I am on my 6th set and ran the K60's for years. The K60 only does one thing better than any other tire... mileage. The K60 is great for long tours where tires are hard to come by. on a side note I prefer the e07 or e07 Dakar over the e07 +
@@wathafish1 any hard compound Adv tire is going to be skittish on wet pavement.. just need to understand and respect the limits of the traction.. i.e. don't push the limits, you'll be fine
If you liked this video watch this one -Bret ua-cam.com/video/7GWw99mbScU/v-deo.html
These are great tyres. I have these on my Africa Twin
Ditto for me. Very happy with the Twin and the E 07's.
This is a few years ago Bret have you tried out the newer Mitas E 07+Enduro Trail tires?
An old man enduro/dualsport rider once told me don't spend too much time looking for the perfect tire. He said after 4 or 5 tries quit searching and PICK ONE already! Keep what you pick and let that be YOUR tire.
Also have an extra set on hand in case a last minute big ride/event comes up and your current set are too worn for such an event. The last thing you wanna do is mount whatever is immediately available from a local store and later be scrambling down a loose rocky hill on strange rubber.
I ran E07 Dakar’s cross country, on several bikes...an excellent tire. Spot on review. That being said they’re kinda sketchy in the rain. After those roached out I slapped TKC80’s on and to be honest ... I feel like they’re just as good. The confidence and grip they offer is tough to beat. Downside they’re soft and the tarmac eats em up. Love both tires!
Thanks for the insight!
You have absolutely found your calling being the on screen talent.
Hi Bret.
What are your thoughts on the Mitas E07+ tyres? Could you do a review perhaps?
It would be nice 👍
I third this request Bret.
Why review exactly the same tire with even stiffer sidewall. I had a hell of a time stretching them over my rims.
@@seregamozetmnoga1700 mate, it's actually not the same tire! You're probably thinking of the Dakar version of E-07. The newer "E-07+" has a totally different tread pattern with larger blocks.
@@HardwareG33k I am looking for the actual kg this Dakar Version can take compared to the normal E-07 (which I have and which says 340kg on the tyre) to decide if its worth while to upgrade, ...but I can´t find a concrete number for that. Every source is just vague saying "can take more load". Do you have you any idea?
Hey Bret. Great video and thanks. Where are you getting the E-07 in the original version? I can only find the E-07+ for the BMW GS. Do you have any comments on the difference between the original and + versions?
I am using this on my KLR and yes very pleased with its performance
Bret, I agree 100%. I ride on Mitas 07 since 2 years ago, and I think asame as you: the best tire I've ever used.
This was one of the very best and informative videos I've seen on UA-cam. I already have these tyres on my bike and agree with you 100%. I subscribed after watching this video. A+!
Love them! But in South Africa the Mitas is sometimes a bit more expensive than the K60's. At the time of this video mitas is cheaper.The really weird thing for me was I was afraid to go from anakee3 to these because I thought the road noise would be much more but I found anakee3 to be a very loud tyre after fitting the k60's and you said the mitas is even quieter. Will try them next if I can just get the k60's to wear off.
My shinko 804/805s are going great on the 1250GSA. About 6,000kms on them so far. A very good road tyre for aggressive riding too.
I also got exceptional mileage out of the 804/805. it is a good tire
Thanks for this Bret. Very timely for me. I run Shinko 705s , mostly because i don't want to lose my on road traction, which is also why i chose the wider version of it. I've heard that thinner means better off-road and this explains it very well. A subscriber with the same bike as me (CB500X, mine is stock) recently asked me if I chose the wider or thinner version of the shinko and i told him why I picked the thicker, as I just explained above.
So this video has me pretty much prepared to try the E-07's next. Over the years I have sought more and more challenges off-road, slowly, as I started old, lol, but I know the Shinkos won't cut it in deep sand or mud and I don't want to limit my exploring because of that. It always seems to be an expensive experiment to me trying new tyres, so having information like this is beyond valuable. Because of the excellent way you explain your reasoning in your videos I am happy to trust your opinion and give it a go. I will also point that subscriber to this video as it answers questions that I couldn't.
Keep up the great work man!
My fellow PNW rider...Rain + Tarmac= Mitas 7? I ride all year around, 20+F bone dry or pouring torrential rain commutes, I ride. I have a 40 mile commute up I-5...on the way home I occasionally (at least twice a week) take the “Long way” home. Twisty back roads, hairpins and 20mph bends...long fast straights and then farm roads with no traffic. Then on the weekends, most family and friends know I’m out exploring the Coastal Range or Cascades (extreme weather permitting). Right now I’m running Continental TrailAttack3 for their amazing wear and wet grip, but they are a 90/10 tires (street/off-road) and don’t inspire a lot of confidence on the usual Oregon fire road but they work phenomenal in heavy standing water at 65mph. I plan to change, come spring time, to a more aggressive trail tire but I need wet weather traction for the weekly commutes when we get a gusher late spring. My bike is a ‘19 Triumph ScramblerXE 1200...I’m 10k plus miles in 8 months. I swapped out the terrible stock Tourances at 6500 miles early October and have been super pleased with the Contis for the last 3500 miles but again, I’m looking forward to more off road this coming year. I appreciate your videos and your time if you choose to chime in! Ride on my friend🤙🏾
Thanks for the great review Bret. I have these tires on my 2014 Moto Guzzi Stelvio NTX 1200. Just finished the Washington BDR for a week long off-road trip, no leaks issues. The tires did marvelous. I went down once only, but due to my stupidity (too fast for my own good). Never lost traction in tricky rocky uphill. I have the Dakar version and I'm sure the stiff walls helped prevent side damage issues in some of the hard embedded rock stuff that I put them through. Also, on way back on asphalt they felt stable at highway speeds on curvy roads. All this in the dry. Can't speak to wet traction yet. Really happy with them, and given that they are hard to mount/dismount it just means they are going to force me to keep them on and get more off-road trips done! :-)
right on point i was about to search for some good tire good video as alway
Can I ask for a video? I purchased a F700GS, however, I realize that I am a total ignorant in tire size, tube, no-tube, or others. Can you discuss that? including spares tubes and tires for long rides. Thank you
Your F700GS is running tubeless tyres. It has a 140/80-17 in the back and 110/80-19 in the front. Pretty popular rim size so you can fit any tyres from road to adventure to knobby ones.
Well based on your reviews my new set of Mitas arrived yesterday. Looking forward to see how they fare this summer.
@theponderosa how are you liking the E07’s?
Well I’ve finally had the chance to put some serious miles on them in order to comment. The first week or so was all fire roads with everything from mud to gravel. In mud I find they handle nicely with no surprises. Sure you’re sliding but they feel like my TKC 80s in that regard. And on loose and hardpack dirt they are outstanding. Deep gravel.....well let’s just say everything I’ve ever ridden sucks in that stuff. I’m now on the road for three weeks fully loaded (1200gsa) with camping gear and the works. On the pavement they have a tendency to wander compared to my Anakee 3 street tires, but you get used to that pretty quick. In the corners they hook up nicely until you really start to push and then they feel a bit loose. But as I said I’ve got my bike loaded. And never did I feel like I was going to wash out. I’ll put about 5000 km on them during this trip so we’ll see how they wear but so far I’m really impressed and will buy them again when they’re toast.
I have had two sets of these. Done the French tet on them and ridden daily on the road
I've got 24000 km on my rear E07 but only got 15000 on the front. Swapped the E07 front to a Shinko 804. 9000 km so far and lots of wear left.
I loved the Mitas E07 on my Africa Twin. Wore it out and tried to go with it again but only able to get E07+. That did not last near as long as EO7. Had a Michelin Anakee Wild and it lasted about as long as the E07+. Just spooned on a Motoz Tractionater ADV. More expensive so hopefully it will live up to high mileage that everyone says they are getting with them. Heading out for a 1,000 mile run next week.
Your reviews are always so clear and well presented, thanks. Ordered a set today for my old Dominator! Will let you know....
Appreciate the great insight on these, have been curious about these - just finished testing the Metzeler Karoo Streets (practically a track tire on the road - not great off-road and wear out in 2500 miles in the rear), also tested the oddball Kenda Big Block Paver Rear (great on pavement once warm, slightly spooky when cold & wet, better than expected off-road run at 34psi - don't bother even looking at the front KBBP), at the ADV Rally in November, I intended to run the Metzeler Karoo 3 in the front and the Shinko 805 in the rear (experience with both these on other bikes have been really good off-road) - Now that I am hearing such good info about the Mitas E-07, I may hop for those instead - thanks for all the great insight, not found elsewhere!
Spot on about these tyres and the benefits of that tough bead and thick side wall. Birdsville track last year, I'd checked my tyres before breaking camp at Deadman's Dune. All good, but a faulty valve ( only spare I needed and didn't have!) later meant I had to ride my fully loaded DR 650 on a flat rear the last 80km to Birdsville. Replaced the valve and pumped it up and carried on.
I've used these for the past 3k miles. The front tire does not hold air. If you check the forums, this is a common issue. I loose about 2psi to 5psi per day. The BMW dealer reset the need twice. It seeps air like a whistle.
Check for molding whiskers between the sidewall and rim. They get trapped and cause this issue. Zero pressure and pop them clear.
Currently running a 150/70/18 (R) on my Africa Twin ... good solid tire, just ease off the power going rounf corners on wet tar, otherwise all good!
Running a 90/90/21 Michelin Anakee Wild on the front, so far this has been a great combo in all conditions.
(Note: The Mitas E07 (F) was always the "weak-link", the rear is super-capable, the front-end less so, especially in loose sand or mud ... the Michelin fixes that issue. Thanks for another great video Brett!
I still feel good with my fat-large tires at the rear (180 mm) and tkc 80. The grip is magnificent on any not-solid terrain, even on the rocks.
I know, everybody say that I'm totally wrong: the tyre has to "dig" the terrain. But I'm not still convinced of that...
Extreme situation: why on the sand specilized bike and cars are equipped with fat tires?
I think the reason for really fat tires in sand is that you’ll never reach bottom!
I have been using Continental TkC80s mainly commuting, but have driven through mushy mud and snow, as well, with better ability than I ever thought possible. Getting close to 4000 miles on them on a 2015 V Strom 650. No bulges or or choppy tread patterns showing up. Good video info, as always, Ya’ll!
I’ve made 2 trips to the Arctic on them. On the Dempster and Dalton front tire traction is my biggest concern, I wonder if the E10 on front would be a good match for a rear E07? Bike is a 1200GS.
I use these tyres on my Honda Transalp, for road, gravel, woods and light mud. They get me through and home again. :) And the price is ok.
Hi Bret, love your channel. Any new tires that have caught your attention since this review?
Thanks Bret! Always enjoy all your motorcycle wiseness! 👍🏻🍻🇺🇸
I currently have these on my Africa Twin and completely agree with your video. However, the one downside for me is that once you have a few K's on them, the center tread line on the rear can be a problem in muddy slippery trails. That's for me anyway, probably lack of skill plays a part but my shinko 805's felt much better in similar conditions.
Bret, love the video and without a doubt trust your opinion!! I have even more respect for someone 'in the know" when they poke the bear with a video on tires!! haha LOVE IT!! Maybe next you should do a video on oil! lol
oil is a slippery slope to play on :-0
I think you predicted my next choice of tire on my AT. I ordered them yesterday, glad I made a good choice.
Bret,
Are the ones you’re talking about the E07, E07+, or the E07 Dakar...?
thoses on this video are E07, E07 dakar have the same treads but with a stiffer sidewall (they also have a yellow stripe all the way around) E07+ have a different tread , it's looks like they didn't have the wear bar in the centerline.
the E07's have a stiff side wall, the Dakar's side wall is STIFF! and I bet you could just run at slow/low speed with no air in an emergency.
Made my day with some fond memories of the tyre n stick.. Thanx
Curious if you've also tried the "plus" version.
I have... I prefer the tread pattern of the e07 & Dakar. personal preference
@@BretTkacs What do you prefer about the non +? Is the difference coming down to your balance of use just not being worth the (perceived) offroad bias of the + or is there something else you don't like about the +? When would you recommend the Dakar vs the standard? I totally understand this all just personal preference and your opinion but I very much value your opinion. I have a similar sized bike and live in the northwest as well so your experience is very relevant to me.
@@Clickmaster5k I prefer the traction characteristics of the extra "edges" and the quiet running of the e07. The Dakar is made for heavier bikes but I have never been able to tell any difference in performance or mileage between the two. I am on Dakars now and have run standard e07's in the past.
I ran E07 Dakar’s front and rear last summer on my F800GSA fully loaded for 8100 miles from Seattle up to Prudoe Bay and Tuktoyaktuk and more. The first few days the front wandered pretty bad but settled in. After that they were great on and off road. Even during pouring rain on the Dalton they hooked up well. When I got home the rear was pretty much done and the front still had some life. I did wish the front was a little more aggressive and ran into a guy running the E07 rear with an E10 front. He said it was excellent and seemed to wear such that both were done at the same time. Normally I run Shinko 804/805 as they are excellent but wouldn’t have the range of the Mitas for such a long ride. This summer I am doing the TAT on the same bike and am again considering Mitas due to the longevity but maybe going with the E10 front. Have you had experience with them?
I'm not a fan of the e10. Maybe pair the e07 with the 804
As always an excellent video. Your recommendation means a lot. I know you advocate stock tire pressure for large adventure bikes. What is your experience with cast wheels vs spoked wheels with regards to rim damage if proper tire pressure is used. I have a 1290 SAS and would like to venture out to offroad roads next season. How strongly would you advise that I get spoked wheels. Thank you!
There are a lot of questions I'd ask you before advising you but for most riders I'd say don't sweat it. Worse case but spoke wheels of you damage your cat wheels.
I have few issues with cast wheels
Bret Tkacs thank you Bret. I ended up getting a set of spoked wheels plus the Mitas E-07+ and started my offroad adventure with a 2 day training. I had an absolute blast and learned a lot. Next year's plan is an offroad trip somewhere in Europe 😉
I did the tubeless mod with these tires and works great!
Might want to define the size of the ride as part of the mission.
Big difference between that big supertanker ADV/dual sport in this video and something the size of a WR250R or similar 250cc - 450 cc bike doing the same rides.
I'm in the small bikes group doing dual sport/ADV rides here in the mountains of the Continental Divide in NW Montana/Idaho and SE British Columbia and SW Alberta. Very little mud and sand in this environment, but a lot of hard packed dirt roads and forest service roads that have layers of built up gravel in the corners that the front tire has to deal with.
Man I wish this came out a week ago just bought the tires Friday that I had before. Oh well I'll burn through them and grab these next time.
reading on mitas webpage the e07+ is a upgrade of the e07
do you still prefer the "older" e07 ? im finding it hard to find for sale in norway
We haven't use the PLUS version yet, Sebastian.
I'm wondering is the + version is different. Was at local BMW dealer and noticed new e07+ on newer model GS, did not have strip down the middle. Was told by parts guy that the ribless tread is on the wider sizes for the liquid cooled bike.
I have run two sets of K60’s on my Triumph Explorers and loved them. I have a yamaha super tenere now with the Mita’s E07 Dakars and absolutely hate these tires. They sound like a 4 wheel drive going down the highway, the handle bars have a buzz that can make your hands a bit numb after a while. They were fine for the first 3K miles or so and then they became a problem. I noticed that they tend to slip in the rain a little more than the K60’s. I talked to Mita and they told me that they thought it might be a balance issue. They also said they will not warrant the tires if there is a problem since they have 4K miles on them...I did not even ask for a warranty resolution. Just trying to find out what might the problem. Great customer service, right? I am going to rebalance the tire to see...not expecting much. Thats my two cents.
800 or 1200?
depending on your bike's wet weight, you might wanna adjust the pressure according your combined bike and rider weight and not from the bike tire pressure sticker.
1200. Airing up makes worse. Bike recommendation....meh. Best option has been 30 front and 36 back. Front is better back is not. Grrrr
@@jimwms1able your tires have a weight rating. Adjust your pressure accordingly. You might need to air down a lot....
Bret Have you tried the eo7plus yet? If so are they comparable if not better?
Looking at the mitas tread pattern and using my same logic from selecting 4wd tyres led me here. Makes perfect sense so looking forward to getting a set on my old Husky TE 510.
I run these on my Honda XRV750 and i love 'em! Just like you said, they're really good on pavement and off-road 🙂
My brand new F750gs came with Anakee 3 stock tires.. quite alright tire but no grip off road. I will be sure to get these so i can do some TET routes!
Just did 4,500 kms around my country on and off road with E07+ front and rear and they were excellent. There was 11mm of depth on rear when new and 7 now so hoping to get 8-10k out of them. Scrambler 1200 XE.
I just got a set of these for my Africa twin and I like them so far. What pressure are you running on them? I run mine at 29 psi on the front and 36 psi on the rear.
Thanks for your review! Just ordered a pair for my Husqvarna 701
I certainly will take your word for it that these tires are as you say. I definitely don’t want to damage my Akront’s and love the mileage factor. For sure not a gorgeous tread, but I’m not made of money so a Bridgestone Battlax XC42 at 3/5k miles tread wear although a gorgeous looking tire, just doesn’t make sense. I know we are going for keeping the shiny side up and making it from A to B. Great video!
Great rear tire. But I hated the front on my F800GS. I used the E07 rear and E09 front. Found it a great combo for 50/50
For now i have Pirelli scorpion trail II .. will try this Mitas .. Thanks
I have been using the Shinko 705 and 800's. 705's currently. They behave well and cheap. Guess I will have to try a set of Mitas. My rear tire is pretty much done after 4k miles. It is hot desert where I ride so I think the tires melt/wear faster.
the Shinko's are definitely softer then the Mitas so while you do save some $ up front, I think your experience is about right.. 4-5k miles max.. so for only about a third more $, the Mitas last maybe twice as long?
705's are a good cheap 90/10