How to Choose the Best Adventure Motorcycle Tires (Tyres)

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  • There are lots of tire options for adventure bikes. Here is Bret's advice on selecting the right type of tires for the riding you do.
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  • @vermithrax-pejorative
    @vermithrax-pejorative 6 років тому +5

    I’ve deem ADV riding for a year and this is by far the best tire summary I’ve ever seen. Am a little impatient with UA-cam for not having shown me your channel earlier!

  • @caruser4
    @caruser4 6 років тому +20

    My first tire was an Shinko 705 and I mostly rode on the highway so I switched to a Metzeler Tourance. It only took one short trip on dirt for me to realize I wanted my Shinko back 😂

  • @jasonramey1597
    @jasonramey1597 4 роки тому +12

    Your ending statement really hit home for me as a new “adventure” rider. ‘Buy the right tire for YOUR adventure’. Now I don’t feel like my street tires discount my adventure bike since I do about 80/20 street to dirt. Excellent video.

    • @SuzukiC41
      @SuzukiC41 2 роки тому

      Yup! Best piece of advice is always going to be to fit what you need for what you're doing. Nothing wrong with 80-20 tires either. I've done cross-country trips with 80-20 and 50-50 tires and planned each trip accordingly

    • @Mattventuring
      @Mattventuring 10 днів тому

      @@SuzukiC41 I regret getting a 80/20 because my experience is that I reach the tyres limits off road all the time but rarely when on road so think it best to bias more towards off road where you need to performance most

  • @jcfounders
    @jcfounders 6 років тому +11

    You're really straight to the point in the videos ive seen no fluff great advice thanks keep it up

  • @sulos4646
    @sulos4646 6 років тому +6

    Using the Karoo 3 now for 4-5 years for snow ride, love it.

  • @LookattheBiggerPic
    @LookattheBiggerPic 6 років тому +9

    I did around 7,000 miles over most of the western US this summer, only about 500 miles of that off-road on a pair of Shinko 804/805, riding my R1200GS Very fully loaded. I chose these because I had planned some VERY demanding off-road portions of the ride and felt based on many comments out there that the 804/805 combination would be good enough for road work and a real asset in the off-road - this turned out to be the case and the perfect choice. Considering my nearly 600lb GS + 230lb me + 70lb of luggage, say 900lbs on the 804/805 combo, both pressured to 32/30psi respectively - I, simply put, had the best most comfortable ADV ride I've ever had! Road noise initially was surprisingly good (subtle but pleasant), handling was Very surprisingly good at speed with tires giving lots of indication when they were at adhesion limits in high-speed corners... The rubber compound once warm was quite sticky, performed reasonably well in Very intense rain (3hrs of torrential rain at 80+ mph thru Wyoming). Off road was marvelous with only the slightest extra drift sideways, accelerating thru corners but very acceptable and easy to handle. My only real complaints were speed rating of only 99mph which I occasionally exceeded while passing a grumpy senior citizen out in the middle of nowhere who was determined not to let me pass - I clicked 110mph and did pass, keeping speed high till he was a 1000 meters behind... People can be so funny sometimes... Felt a little nervous once I exceeded 100, briefly imagining my entrails dangling from the speed limit sign down the way... Yikes! The other annoyance with these came when the front had worn enough to cup pretty bad, by then progressively causing more and more uncomfortable noise and vibration until I simply could NOT take it anymore - stopped over in Spokane, WA and got the front replaced (still with about 30% or it's life left) with a Shinko 705 (all they happened to have that day in my GS size)... Overall I'd have to say without reservation that the 804/805 is the Best value in a more off-road oriented ADV tire! I might also add that I installed "Ride-On" sealent in both tires to Ride-On spec for off-road use. This produced superb smoothness and produced a little extra insurance against a puncture ruining my fast ride sections - highly recommend this addition to my fellow ADV riders! (I did also have a professional grade tire plug kit and electric pump with me at all times, tucked in nicely right next to my first aid kit with additional field triage kit since I rode the entire nearly 8,000 miles solo, much of it outside of cell range and some of it without GPS signal)...

    • @StellarStreak
      @StellarStreak 2 роки тому

      Wish! Nice read.
      You should write a blog about your adventure trip.

  • @SheenHunter-SeattleFreeze
    @SheenHunter-SeattleFreeze 6 років тому +5

    You're killin' it! This is fantastic.

  • @irishrover63
    @irishrover63 6 років тому +3

    Great info Bret. Just about to change my front tyre for another Avon Trailrider, got 16,000 miles from it and 11,500 from the rear.👍☘

  • @ScratchBabble
    @ScratchBabble 6 років тому +11

    That was a really great explanation thanks so much. I'm new to adventure and there is a lot of sand here. I went in the wrong direction after stock to the 705

  • @user-rz7ih2vh1c
    @user-rz7ih2vh1c 5 років тому +5

    Such a great channel. Thanks for your work.

  • @scottwells6259
    @scottwells6259 6 років тому +2

    Another terrific video. Explaining the plain facts about tires and tire selection are tremendously appreciated. Keep them coming.

  • @edysinsimon8646
    @edysinsimon8646 6 років тому +2

    Wow! You're a couple of miles from my place on the river! I remember, as a "kid" riding my honda 350 scrambler, it had a pair of street tires and when it came time to play "tag" in the cow fields , us guy's would ride around to the cow "pies" and rip it up onto the closest rider! I got covered with cow crap that day! I also learned how important knobbies are to the off road motorcycle experience!

  • @dznnf7
    @dznnf7 6 років тому +7

    I've never seen a bike service area like that in my life. Didn't know they existed!

  • @akepettersson4847
    @akepettersson4847 6 років тому +1

    I bought my 2015 GSA used , and I have Anakee 3 now. This spring I will have Conti TKC 70. Thank’s , you helped me here 🙌.

  • @finlaggan-lordoftheisles-7982
    @finlaggan-lordoftheisles-7982 6 років тому +2

    Thanks ! Keep up the good work and videos.

  • @multistradino724
    @multistradino724 4 роки тому +2

    You’re simply the best! Thank you so much for all the advice.you’re n°1 with explanation, video, fun. Never boring.

  • @Big_Abomination
    @Big_Abomination 6 років тому +7

    This is a great channel. Underrated

  • @nsrlegaltech
    @nsrlegaltech 4 роки тому +1

    The Shinkos really are incredible value and performing tyre in my experience...again great vlog👍

  • @debroyprasenjit
    @debroyprasenjit 4 роки тому +2

    This is bloody brilliant! Thank you Bret for the informative videos :)

  • @jrey7078
    @jrey7078 5 років тому +4

    I had the Heidenau Scout K60 on my GS Adventure. They wore like steel and were good both on the road and off. One thing to note, the front tire howled like a hunting beagle chasing a rabbit at highway speed 60-80 mph

  • @secretsolddad
    @secretsolddad 6 років тому +3

    I ran the tkc70, 70/30 tire, for the first half of my world ride (europe, middle east and asia to australia) and did really well both on road and offroad. They only fall short a lot when you hit deep sand or mud, but I was able to do 40k kilometers on them. I switched to the karoo 3 and they are simply amazing in sand and mud! Can't speak for the mileage yet as don't have so much mileage on them yet.

  • @RiderMark
    @RiderMark 6 років тому +2

    Perfect explaining!

  • @mose717
    @mose717 6 років тому +8

    Hi Bret. I really like your ADV focus videos. I'd love to see a video about how to load, strap, and balance a bike and also how you and a passenger get on and off a fully loaded bike.

  • @miguelmiranda9122
    @miguelmiranda9122 6 років тому +2

    Wow well done as usual. Very well explained. That's it one of my favorite you tube channels!

  • @MrBeefsnorkel
    @MrBeefsnorkel 4 роки тому +1

    ive watched so many of your videos. combined with your in depth knowledge of the topics and the quality / spunky of the video production im shocked you dont have way more followers and viewers

  • @Voodooand
    @Voodooand 6 років тому +3

    Best ADV oriented tire explainer video i have yet seen on UA-cam. Good thoughts on riding style, wear etc etc.

  • @kingklr1
    @kingklr1 5 років тому +1

    Good video. Keep them coming

  • @F.Krueger-cs4vk
    @F.Krueger-cs4vk 5 років тому +2

    Excellent information, thankyou from 🇦🇺

  • @lackingpoint
    @lackingpoint 6 років тому +1

    Great video. I've recently subscribed to your channel and it's found your videos quite useful and entertaining.
    I was originally looking very hard at getting the Karoo 3 but after some research ran across the Avon Trekriders. The karoos looked a little more aggressive than what I was wanting and the Trekrders follow the same vein of design but leans a little more towards the tarmac. I've been thoroughly pleased with the Trekriders on hard surfaces and surprised at how well they perform on dirt roads and some of the softer singletrack type terrain. They are newer to Market and you don't hear too much about them. Though being marketed as 50/50 tires are probably closer to 70/30 but for my riding purposes they work really well.

  • @SayanChakraborty58
    @SayanChakraborty58 5 років тому +5

    Is it only me who believes this is best channel for moto enthusiasts?

  • @elendshuraglump3620
    @elendshuraglump3620 6 років тому +2

    A very clear an comprehensible explanation .. Thanks. Best regards from Germany

  • @uragovea5473
    @uragovea5473 4 роки тому +1

    Excellent video. Thank you.

  • @laurieberg2880
    @laurieberg2880 6 років тому +1

    Another great video Brent. Found you through ARR podcasts. The more I ride and practice the better my Bridgestone 502's work🙂

    • @BretTkacs
      @BretTkacs 6 років тому

      Laurie Berg, keep watching and spreading the word.
      It sounds like Jim is going another way with the rider skills segments. You will find me here and at the school doing what I do.
      Hope to see you at the school someday.

  • @douglascassetty6553
    @douglascassetty6553 6 років тому +2

    Great job of putting out the good info.

  • @markjacobs6294
    @markjacobs6294 6 років тому +19

    I've been running 804/805 Shinko's for 2 years 50,000 miles and counting. I'm getting 10k on a front and 5k on the back with 60/40 riding. They handle just as well on pavement as the 705s but are better off road. I've ridden over 75,000 miles on 705s. They need to stagger the rear blocks for more lateral stability and they'd be perfect. They cost less than half the other tires you showed. Less than $300 a pair. I've owned all of them and will use the Shinko's until I either die or they quit making them. The ONLY disadvantage to the Shinko's are all the smartass comments from BMW riders about them, STINKOS, CHEAPOS, etc. Current bike 2016, Tiger 800XCa - Frisco, Colorado.

    • @kevinburgstiner7191
      @kevinburgstiner7191 6 років тому +1

      Mark Jacobs
      I've got an F800GS and on the 2nd set of tires I decided to try the 805's. Loved them, except the quality from factory left a bit to be desired. (Kind of oblong [out of round] on the rear). Third set was the 705's (currently on the bike). Love them! I don't know if I'll stray from shinko ever. And the price!... Works for me!

    • @westendraju
      @westendraju 6 років тому

      Mark Jacobs km in

  • @narkeeso
    @narkeeso 6 років тому +3

    Bret, love your videos! Would love to see a video for changing tires on the field!

    • @BretTkacs
      @BretTkacs 6 років тому

      I do want to do a remake of that video for mototrek, its been many years.

  • @jdman7170
    @jdman7170 6 років тому +2

    Another great video! Too bad you aren't on the east coast. Would love to attend one of your classes.

  • @oneblackdogrides
    @oneblackdogrides 5 років тому +1

    So you can balance tyre aggressiveness with skill level - that must be why I keep using the Dunlop 606 front & rear.
    Thanks for the awesome explanation, appreciate it.

  • @EdSchneeebly
    @EdSchneeebly 6 років тому +2

    great vid as always! when my streets wear out i'll be getting some tkc80s for my tranny and start tearing up the Pyrenees :) Love your presentation and editing, would love to see some hands on mechanic type videos - repairing a tyre/inner tube in the middle of a dirt road, fork seals, and other servicing stuff related to adventure bikes :) looking forward to the next vid!

    • @MOTOTREK
      @MOTOTREK  6 років тому

      Thanks for the suggestions, Ed.

  • @BlackdogADV
    @BlackdogADV 4 роки тому +2

    I found happiness with the Mitas E07s however I took a set of Shinko 804-805s with me to the Dempster and found them surprisingly good. The Shinkos cost me less then $200 shipped to my door. The K60s are great for high mileages but lack in traction because of the center bar.

    • @MOTOTREK
      @MOTOTREK  4 роки тому

      Great. We run Shinko 705's on the producer-cameraman's bike and love them.

  • @maximilianlindemann3990
    @maximilianlindemann3990 2 роки тому

    Great advice, helped a lot!

  • @eduardomonteclar392
    @eduardomonteclar392 3 роки тому

    Ty Bret i’ve learned a lot

  • @ArizonaAdv
    @ArizonaAdv 6 років тому +2

    Nice video I just came across your channel . I'm new to the Dual Sport world. I road off road all my life .With a back injury no longer competition. My wife said you need to ride so I chose a Xr650l set up really nice . I wondered what those charging wires were on my XR you answered my question.Racing off road and ISDE is a little different than packing tents and tools. Dual Sporting is A new world that I am quickly falling in love with. Thanks for the info. God Bless """RIDE ON"""

    • @MOTOTREK
      @MOTOTREK  6 років тому +1

      Welcome, Eaglerider!

  • @georgeb3970
    @georgeb3970 3 роки тому

    Great description of the first tire.....Dunlop!

  • @osimnod
    @osimnod 6 років тому +1

    Excellent description of major tire types and their application. Appreciate your informative videos. Am looking to go less aggressive than D606 on my 640 ADV.

    • @BretTkacs
      @BretTkacs 6 років тому

      osimnod I like the 606. I ran that on the front of my F800GS several tips on Mexico paired with aTKC80 or Kenda Big Block

    • @osimnod
      @osimnod 6 років тому

      Depending on size availability, I was thinking of Big Block or Motoz Tractionator Adventure H/T as an alternative. Really depends on how gnarly the off road riding sections will be this year in the Sierra Nevada.

  • @boomcity4942
    @boomcity4942 2 роки тому

    Always excellent. You are top in your field.

  • @morningbetterlast
    @morningbetterlast 4 роки тому

    Riding gravel and forest roads on Pilot Road 5 on R1200GS this whole summer after starting my motocross training. Sure I have limited turning capacity and I won't be able to get anywhere when the surface is wet yet I'm really aware how bad it might end up and pay alot of attention to what I'm doing. And yeah, I had dropped the bike alot.
    Gonna buy some Pirelli Dakar starting next year season in spring and just have a blast enjoying that difference in traction :)

  • @UncleWally3
    @UncleWally3 6 років тому +2

    Michelin Pilot 4 Trail - excellent for 90/10 riding . . . an amazing tire. For some “adventure” bikes a Pilot 4 Trail front and a Pilot 4 GT rear will work - but off pavement isn’t what they’re designed to do.

  • @LouTube386
    @LouTube386 5 років тому +2

    Great video

    • @MOTOTREK
      @MOTOTREK  5 років тому

      Glad you enjoyed it, Louis.

  • @smoth26
    @smoth26 4 роки тому +1

    Hi. Thank you for video. Can aggressive tire (metzeller tourance) give vobbling on my handlbar on low speed (less than 100 km/h) ?

  • @lonewolf3804
    @lonewolf3804 6 років тому +1

    If there is a "subject" subject to being the origin of a world war, it is precisely: TIRES! Excellent, the initiative to use the "weapon" of the armistice, in this "subject" so sensitive! I think everyone understood well, PEACE BROS!

  • @22fret
    @22fret 4 роки тому +1

    Below 140 the Heidenau doesn't have that centre bar. I have just bought a set for my old Transalp...

  • @Speedytrip
    @Speedytrip 6 років тому +2

    Ive tried the k60 and shinko 804/805 on my scrambler. The k60 squares off really fast and cost twice as much as the Shinkos. I was a big k60 fan...until I tried the shinkos. In my case the shinko wears more evenly and the rear lasts just as long. The front k60 wears like iron but still way cheaper to go with the shinko and they perform just as well in all conditions.

  • @outty77
    @outty77 6 років тому

    I was just thinking about shopping for new rubber, so this is a timely video. Thank you!. I have the K60 scout on the rear right now, but I think I should go a little more aggressive as I plan to learn how to ride in sand this spring. All the off road trails around my home are soft sand.

    • @BretTkacs
      @BretTkacs 6 років тому

      outty77 the K60 does OK but more paddle will help,

    • @outty77
      @outty77 6 років тому +1

      I might try the good old, venerable TKC 80's

  • @ChawkiChahed
    @ChawkiChahed 4 роки тому

    Good video. I'm riding Mitas e13 front and e09 rear. Wonderful. Even on pavement

  • @nelospr
    @nelospr 3 роки тому

    TOP!
    One question:
    I have a CB 500X (2019). The original rear tire needs to be replaced. Can I replace only the rear tire... Or must I replace both front and rear?
    I must add that I am considering changing the tire reference.

  • @noostNL
    @noostNL 4 роки тому +1

    I always find it interesting that you guys choose the Heidenau k60 with the centerline. To me, the Heidenau without the centerline is better 🤷

    • @rogerpitre8663
      @rogerpitre8663 3 роки тому

      It depends on the size. Tread pattern differ according to the tire size. On the bigger ADV bikes, with the 150 rear section, it's not a choice you get to make.

  • @grimsadventures-bikesnpetr7913
    @grimsadventures-bikesnpetr7913 4 роки тому +1

    What is the best 50-50, currently using mitas e07 +

  • @danielpotter8957
    @danielpotter8957 4 роки тому

    Just bought a 2017 honda africa twin. Mainly road use, any recommendations please?

  • @Marbroza
    @Marbroza 6 років тому +2

    Great video as always man. I had the shinko's on my KTM 990, Best tyres ever

    • @monchitoscalecrawling5035
      @monchitoscalecrawling5035 3 роки тому

      Hi. I also have a 990. What shinkos are you using and how many miles you get on the rear tire. Thanks

    • @Marbroza
      @Marbroza 3 роки тому

      @@monchitoscalecrawling5035 I was very fortunate on my set, I got about 12000km's , mainly tar, with about 15km out of 100 being dirt
      I had the Shinko 805's on

  • @dokpar5018
    @dokpar5018 3 роки тому

    Can the GS1150R rim be mounted on a GS1200 Adv K51 motorbike? Is it the same size?
    Thank you

  • @jpgo
    @jpgo 6 років тому

    Hi Bret, any chance you can explain or give recommendations about when is safe to exchange your tires? I have different opinions with friends about when is the right time to get new tires!

  • @acidcold5819
    @acidcold5819 6 років тому +2

    You're the Man!
    Nice head, by the way.

  • @marcopi6663
    @marcopi6663 6 років тому +1

    K60 have different tired tread depending on the size, 130/80/17 is much more "off" than 150/70/17 , even though not specialised.

  • @paoloconcina1632
    @paoloconcina1632 6 років тому +1

    Hi Bret
    Can you recommend an all round Tyre for a Yamaha super tenere that carry's heavy loads e.g large panniers and wife , an 80/20 or 70/30 Tyre I have the Mitas EO7 awesome Tyre and have 10000km on them ,they are just a bit to noisy on the road
    Thanks
    MR DJ

    • @BretTkacs
      @BretTkacs 6 років тому

      Paolo Concina the Mita e-07 is as quiet as they get for true dirt worthy tires go. One you move to the street focused tires they all quiet down nicely. Even the K60 makes more noise than the e-07.
      Many riders love the Michelin Anakee 3 (they turn a little slow for my taste but are a good tire... on the budget side the Shinko 705 do well

  • @eatcommies1375
    @eatcommies1375 6 років тому +1

    I run K60s. IMO weight of the big adv bike makes up in some ways for lack of knobs off road riding straight.Important thing to me on dirt are side knobs for cornering. That’s talking about dry stuff not greasy mud.

    • @BretTkacs
      @BretTkacs 6 років тому

      PaulXT1200Z when it’s dry even the 90/10 Street /dirt work fine

  • @Ralphsleep
    @Ralphsleep 6 років тому +6

    After extensive research, chemical analysis and a few shamanic rituals, I ended up choosing the Shinko 805:804

    • @rilke_roca
      @rilke_roca 2 роки тому

      jajaja!.... I feel you bro!

  • @coloradomotorider8646
    @coloradomotorider8646 5 років тому +2

    Bret, great advice. Any possibility of a more in-depth video on the tires YOU use for different riding conditions/trips/terrain? I often see you on what look like mainly street tires but you're off-road in the videos. Perhaps some tips on traversing off-road with such tires without large knobbies, etc.? I ride an adventure bike but also (mainly) use it for commuting on tarmac and can't switch back and forth between tires all the time. I know there are no tires that do everything perfectly, but perhaps some tips from you about your preferences might help. Just a thought. Great channel!!!

    • @MOTOTREK
      @MOTOTREK  5 років тому

      Yes, Manan! Stay tuned! New tire video coming this week!

    • @coloradomotorider8646
      @coloradomotorider8646 5 років тому +1

      @@MOTOTREK Really? What timing! Haha. Thank you.

    • @BretTkacs
      @BretTkacs 5 років тому

      ua-cam.com/video/YnEcI3F_pqE/v-deo.html

  • @ronanrogers4127
    @ronanrogers4127 6 років тому +1

    Nice jacket, and the contrasting cap looks good too.
    I’m a little disappointed in my K60 Scouts because of the centre line being unbroken. Otherwise they’re a great tire, but they don’t give enough grip in wet off-road environments. I might try Mitas next, or maybe Shinko

    • @BretTkacs
      @BretTkacs 6 років тому

      Ronan Rogers you might look at the Mefo super Enduro too...

    • @BretTkacs
      @BretTkacs 6 років тому

      Ronan Rogers yes I had to match the cap to my pants

    • @navkolosvity6873
      @navkolosvity6873 5 років тому

      Ronan Rogers mitas is a shit . I’m used k-60 too. Yes it’s not for swamp but it’s not bad on wet road

  • @DigitalSamTV
    @DigitalSamTV 6 років тому

    U left out the best adventure offroad oriented tire : dunlop d606 (rear only). And the all round best adventure tire which sticks to.the pavement like glue (better even than less aggressive tread tires) and works very decent offroad also : continental tkc80

  • @Porsche996driver
    @Porsche996driver 3 роки тому

    Metzeler Tourance are great 80/20 balance for my ‘05 GS mit Öhlins.

  • @shreedevi2005
    @shreedevi2005 6 років тому

    Another excellent and informative video, Bret. Can you elaborate a little further on how to evaluate the wear on a 50-50 and more aggressive tire? I have a tire that has done about 7500kms and the knobs are getting rounded off on the rear. You mentioned that this will reduce the traction. Even though the treads are still very deep, is this tire done or close to being done? I do only gravel roads (though some forest service roads are steep and poorly graded here in BC).

    • @BretTkacs
      @BretTkacs 6 років тому +1

      motonut ua-cam.com/video/7GWw99mbScU/v-deo.html
      Does this answer your question OK?

    • @shreedevi2005
      @shreedevi2005 6 років тому

      Thank you sir. I guess I'll be shopping for a new tire. 😀

    • @peterbrophy9442
      @peterbrophy9442 6 років тому

      Great video’s Bret! Have you done a vid about how to decide if using Tubeless vs Tubes? Thanks again for all the great advice for us newbies.

  • @yodapapa
    @yodapapa 2 роки тому

    I wonder Karoo Street. Do you have plan to review karoo street?

  • @tracey1013
    @tracey1013 6 років тому +1

    I just bought a 2013 Suzuki V-Strom 650 and it came with Michelin Anakee 3 tires. There is only 6000 km's on that but I'm looking for a tires that can do a bit more off road then those. My boyfriend has a KLR 650 with the K60 Scout tires, would that be a good choice for the V-Strom? Thanks.

    • @MOTOTREK
      @MOTOTREK  6 років тому

      Congrats on the new bike, Tracey!
      Sorry but we can't endorse any particular tire brand :(

    • @tokolosh6467
      @tokolosh6467 5 років тому

      For what it worth, the Heidenau K60 Scout is the best all-round 50% on-road 50% off-road tyre available. It will also outlast any of the others. Good luck with your new bike.

  • @naixgod
    @naixgod 6 років тому +2

    Very informative ..!!

  • @aodhfin
    @aodhfin 6 років тому

    I will be riding from the continental US mid-west up to Alaska this summer (12K miles) - going through the Yukon and up to Prudhoe bay and back. I'm not going to be in dirt very much at all, but on a LOT of their gravel roads. What tire would you recommend for a first time adventure rider on my '12 V-Strom DL650?

    • @BretTkacs
      @BretTkacs 6 років тому

      Scott Lane for a very high mileage tire with modest performance in dirt and street the K60 scout is still the tire to beat. Great touring tire and better in the dirt that the average street bias ADV tire.
      I like the Mita E07 for better performance off road at less cost it also offers a shorter life span (similar to the average street tire)

  • @sgtunix
    @sgtunix 6 років тому +2

    What's your opinion on the TKC80's? I have been running these for years and I'm really happy with grip, both on pavement and offroad. My rear does not seem to last more than 4000 km (2500 miles) though.

    • @DMC-179
      @DMC-179 6 років тому

      Torbjørn Kristoffersen and the anakee wild..

    • @BretTkacs
      @BretTkacs 6 років тому +1

      Great performance on pavement, good performance on dirt, horrible life span and expensive. If money or mileage are not not an issue it is a great tire and still the benchmark others compare against.

    • @BretTkacs
      @BretTkacs 6 років тому +1

      Christiano Marlboro I only know what you know about the Anakee Wild. That is one of the few tires I haven't been able to try out.

    • @DMC-179
      @DMC-179 6 років тому

      then it´s time to ;)

    • @Whos-That-Guy
      @Whos-That-Guy 6 років тому

      Money aside. who can be bothered or has the time to change their tyres every 4,000kms? I have better things to do.. I'd burn through a rear every 2 months if only got 4000kms out of them. I'm way too lazy for that effort...

  • @paoloconcina1632
    @paoloconcina1632 6 років тому

    Hello Bret here is a question for you, I own a super tenere 1200 which weighs 260Kg, i have just bought a set of Metzeler Karoo streets the load rating is 325Kg if I fit all 3 Kappa panniers and myself with out the wife ,its all ready way over that limit or can you please explain regards Paolo

    • @BretTkacs
      @BretTkacs 5 років тому

      That is per tire

  • @mauricethingsbcgallardo1686
    @mauricethingsbcgallardo1686 5 років тому

    The best adventure videos on UA-cam. I have a question, IO recently changes from touring to adventure and bought a Versys 300x, I changed the stock tires to new Shimko 705 and now at speeds over 100ks the bikes feel like it weaves, I have also checked the front and rear alignment and all is OK, the dealer has no clue, would you have a suggestion as to why? your input is appreciated.

    • @BretTkacs
      @BretTkacs 5 років тому

      It could simply be the change in tyre design. It is not uncommon for different brand to feel that different.

  • @pandaadventureunboxing6855
    @pandaadventureunboxing6855 4 роки тому

    Is there any familiar with ASPIRA TERRENO ???

  • @PSmith-qp2lo
    @PSmith-qp2lo 5 років тому

    I have a question maybe even a review/explanation video.... tubed vs tubeless tyres (unless its already been done and ive missed it)....im moving away from sport bikes and im currently (18/8/19) looking at buying an Africa Twin. Now most of my riding is going on street, trips and tours etc...firstly round the UK but then maybe further afield. And i will be taking loaded panniers and the wife quite a bit.... i know there are better "touring" bikes but i like the look of the ADV bike! The Honda has tubed tyres. I've heard they run hotter on street, harder to fix punctures and my main concern, which is why i hit UA-cam and the trusted MOTOTREK comments section, ive heard that IF you pick up a nail for example and 70mph, a tubeless tyre can handle punctures better. When a tubed tyre takes a nail at 70 mph, the tube can deflate instantly, collapsing the tyre with it. A tubeless tyre can capture the nail (screw, or pointy road debris of your choice) in the tyre’s thick main layer, sealing around the intruder to keep the air inside, It doesn’t always work out that way, but a tubeless tyre gives you better odds of experiencing a slow deflation that gives you a chance to get off the road safely, instead of sudden and total deflation. Any advice greatly appreciated... 🇬🇧✌

  • @trex69
    @trex69 3 роки тому

    I am looking to get into adv and I from all of yalls experience, would you recommend A tube or tubeless tire.

    • @rogerpitre8663
      @rogerpitre8663 3 роки тому

      Advantages and disadvantages to both. Tubeless can be fixed easily on the trail with a plug kit and some sort of air pump without removing the wheel. Unless you put in some sort of gash in the tire, the air loss when you incur a puncture will usually be more gradual in nature.
      Tube tires, on the other hand will deflate quickly (think front tire deflation in two seconds at 60mph), and you will need to remove the wheel and either patch the hole, if you have the supplies, or use a spare tube, if you brought one. Advantages to tubes are that they can be aired down a lot more for off road riding, without fear of pinch flats.
      One thing to be mindful of is that there is a limit on how low you can go with bigger ADV bikes, before there is an increased risk of bending wheels on sharp edged trail gremlins. I'm sure there are videos out there cautioning on this very thing.
      Also, while there are some models that have both spoked wheels and tubeless tires (my Super Tenere is one of those), spoked rims usually will be of the tubed variety, and cast aluminum will be
      In the end, it will boil down to your bike choice, as very few bikes (if any) of the same model will offer the choice of both.
      For me, tubeless tires and shaft drive steered me to the Yamaha and were major factors in the decision, which I don't regret, three years after. You could talk to the next rider, and the 50lbs weight penalty I took for these options would have been deal breakers for them.

  • @garyo4456
    @garyo4456 3 роки тому

    Just wondering if anyone “sipes” the Heidenau for better center strip wear and rain adhesion?

  • @codchristopher
    @codchristopher 6 років тому +1

    👍

    • @MOTOTREK
      @MOTOTREK  6 років тому

      +Dr Christopher Thanks!

  • @ronthompson9555
    @ronthompson9555 6 років тому +1

    You didn't mention the TKC80, I find it great on and off road on my heavy KTM 990.

    • @BretTkacs
      @BretTkacs 6 років тому

      Ron Thompson the TKC80 is still the tire most are measured against. Good performer overall but still a premium. It was the only choice for years. (For many bikes)

  • @mungo75
    @mungo75 6 років тому +1

    I would love to know you guys think of the new Pirelli Rally STR?

    • @BretTkacs
      @BretTkacs 6 років тому +1

      mungo75 I haven’t tried that one yet

    • @mungo75
      @mungo75 6 років тому

      Bret Tkacs Thanks for the reply Bret. I hope you guys do at some point, a lot of good things being said about it on different forums.

  • @damytzeus
    @damytzeus 5 років тому +1

    tire compound matters quite a bit. heidenaus use a harder compound and, for how i ride, they're a scary when wet and when cold. less aggressive riders, heidenaus work fine.

    • @nobodyshero200
      @nobodyshero200 3 роки тому

      Same. I think they are death traps for the way I ride.

  • @mrblacktrh
    @mrblacktrh 6 років тому

    Would have been awesome if you’d list the tires you show in the video in it’s description.

  • @ethancheng1595
    @ethancheng1595 3 роки тому

    Awesome video. The closing message is really important - be honest with yourself. I think I'm gonna go with 90/10 for my next set of tires. I don't really go into wet mud at all. It's mostly loose gravel and dry soil in the mountains. The only thing I'm having doubts with is puncture resistance -- that has to do with the compound used and not the tread pattern, right? Or is it both - it's the compound, but manufacturers tend to use a more hard-wearing compound for the off-road biased model?

    • @chrishart8548
      @chrishart8548 3 роки тому

      Remember off road tyres have stiff sidewalls to deal with rough terrain. road based tyres have softer sidewalls for better road cornering. If soft compounds are used for off road tyres chunks of rubber can get ripped off by stones and rocks

  • @TheLongjohndong
    @TheLongjohndong 4 роки тому +1

    Why blur the model of dunlop tire yet have all the model names of the others?

    • @MOTOTREK
      @MOTOTREK  4 роки тому

      We put the wrong name during the edit and blurred it on UA-cam after uploading.

  • @evandre02
    @evandre02 6 років тому

    Great video.. do you have any videos about motorcycle boots or reviews on your channel??
    Pura Vida

    • @BretTkacs
      @BretTkacs 6 років тому

      Evandre Molina we have one boot review but no selection reviews yet.

  • @norsefalconer
    @norsefalconer 6 років тому

    Please be aware that the K60 is designed to be used with it's matching front. That solid center strip tends to hydroplane. This is (supposedly) mitigated by following in the "clear" path created by the front tire

    • @BretTkacs
      @BretTkacs 6 років тому

      Norsefalconer where did you hear this? I've read the website and press literature and that has never been mentioned

  • @sachinwadhwani4810
    @sachinwadhwani4810 6 років тому

    This is a great video thanks! Wish I'd seen it before I changed my tyres. I don't understand why Revzilla and Fort9 says Karoo 3 are 70/30. I ordered them and when I received them I knew right away damn! Too aggressive for my riding. But I'm using them anyways and they are nice only a bit hard initially and bike feels heavy at low speeds - could it be a tyre pressure issue? Any tips on tyre pressure for Karoo 3 on a Honda Africa Twin?

    • @BretTkacs
      @BretTkacs 6 років тому

      Sachin Wadhwani what pressures are you running?

    • @sachinwadhwani4810
      @sachinwadhwani4810 6 років тому

      So I'm running 29 psi front and 36psi rear for now

    • @sachinwadhwani4810
      @sachinwadhwani4810 6 років тому

      So what do you think?

    • @BretTkacs
      @BretTkacs 6 років тому

      your pressures sound ideal for daily riding so I don't think your slow turn in is related. You can drop as low as the mid 20's up front to the mid 30's, the rear I would keep between the mid 30's to no more than max.
      I was unable to locate a recommended pressure for that tire on that bike on the Michelin site. You may ask them for those numbers and then experiment by raising 10% then lowering 10% to see how that feels.
      Lowering the pressure will warm the tires faster and may be preferred as the sidewalls of the off-road focused tires can be much stiffer than street focused tires. the K60 is notorious for this whereas the TKC80 has very soft sidewalls.
      a stiff sidewall is good for protecting the rim while running lower pressures.

    • @sachinwadhwani4810
      @sachinwadhwani4810 6 років тому

      Than you so much, really appreciate your response and tips

  • @porkoholic
    @porkoholic 3 роки тому

    @6:45 you want us to buy the Karoo 3 right... getting the Karoo 3 then

  • @jrbass62
    @jrbass62 2 роки тому

    I'm trying to find the best front tire for Florida sugar sand, anyone?? 2014 Suzuki Vstrom 1000..

  • @francoisleblanc6546
    @francoisleblanc6546 6 років тому +1

    Just to let you know that the Karoo 3, in spite of their agressive look, are 70% road tire and only 30% off road. Been riding those tires for 7000km on my DR650 and they do great on tarmac and just ok off road. Lateral traction just plain sucks (no side blocks). They do ok in sand and dirt. Not that good in mud either...

    • @BretTkacs
      @BretTkacs 6 років тому

      François LeBlanc thanks for the feedback. On a DR you have much more aggressive DS tires than the big bikes. Lucky for us with 150’s and bigger we do have more options than ever.

    • @francoisleblanc6546
      @francoisleblanc6546 6 років тому

      Bret Tkacs , absolutely true ! Been using K60's on my Super Ténéré, they are great on road, real peg grinders. But could use a better tire offroad, not enough grip. Have you tried Motoz tires ? The tractionator Adventure looks like the holy graal for the big adv bikes !!!

  • @Egg1456
    @Egg1456 4 роки тому

    I killed a k60 scout on the road in 600 miles on a dr650 at intermediate track day pace.

  • @stringtwister7654
    @stringtwister7654 6 років тому +3

    Dude great video but whats that on your head??

    • @BretTkacs
      @BretTkacs 6 років тому

      the coolest hat ever ;-)

  • @robertpolkamp
    @robertpolkamp 6 років тому +1

    Dunlop what? You didn't mention the model...

  • @motosportirebridgestonemot6703
    @motosportirebridgestonemot6703 2 роки тому

    BRIDGESTONE BATTLAX ADVENTURECROSS AX41 the best!