As an approximation, a single stage air compressors puts out about 3CFM/HP. If you need 12 CFM at 90PSI you have to stop blasting if the compressor tank pressure drops below 90PSI. A one horsepower compressor could only blast 25% (or less) of the time. If you have a 5hp compressor it might supply 12CFM (but a 7.5HP is probably more real) and you could blast continuously. Smaller horsepower means lots of stop & starts to fill up the tank. A bigger tank means a longer blasting time between stop start. Keep an eye on the pressure gauge (above 90PSI) or just don't blast while the compressor is running. A trade off for needing less CFM is to reduce the nozzle size. That would get less work done but reduce wait times as the compressor cycles. Anybody want to offer additions or corrections to this?
One good option if you don’t want a large tank and/or don’t have a 240V outlet is a gas powered compressor. Gas powered compressors are usually even more powerful than 240V compressors, and can be used anywhere. However, if working indoors, you want to use a long hose so that the compressor can safely be used outdoors.
Does the ingersol rand 80 gallo have a 22volt plug? I have been using my grandparents 30 year old 20 gallon compressor so I need to upgrade but do not have a 220 volt plug. Thanks, videos are great!
You might also look into using a gas powered compressor. Although they are usually significantly more expensive than electric compressors, a gas powered compressor may be cost competitive if you have to hire an electrician. Also, pretty much ANY gas powered compressor is going to supply the SCFM you need. And because of the sheer muscle of a gas powered compressor (vs most any electric compressor), you don’t need a big tank.
Great video! What do you suggest for the air line diameter and fittings? I have 3/8” NPT 30 gallon but your filter system is 1/2” so is that likely what you will need with a 60 gallon compressor? Thanks so much!
Hi Boone, I’m writing from Australia and needing to find all similar products but from Aussie suppliers … so the information is brilliant, I do have a kinda odd question, how long do you find a 25 kilo bag of soda lasts, as in how many projects approx. Thank you - you are v inspiring
I'm determined to use the Lematec pickup tube soda blaster to strip some chairs, tables, and dressers. I *can* buy an air compressor if I have to but that's a lot for my "girl hobby"--I work full time and so this is a hobby. For the time being, I found a Mi-T-M brand AC I can rent for $57 a day. The specs on it say 13.1 cfm @ 90 psi. I looked it up on Google and it's 8 gallon but you said your Ingersoll Rand is 80 gallon. Am I off base with this one? If I'm going to pay over ~$1600 I'm going to have to drop back and use chemical stripper and sanding. Is the air compressor you have very different from this Mi-T-M?
Boone, using the blaster to sand wood furniture, especially that with a lot of detail and pattern where it is hard to get to with conventional sanding, is a brilliant solution to make the project easier.... Soda works great however, it is a natural weed killer and will kill plants around a working area it touches... have you used other median that works as good as soda that will not damage the wood?
I have used a few other media, but nothing that isn’t as gentle as soda. I don’t have to worry about the plants and grass because I use mine around concrete. If you’re worried about that issue, a spray tent is a good idea that has been recommended before
can anyone advise with removing layers of paint from inside architraves, doorways, windows, even an old fireplace, cement and brick, I am thinking of buying a Le Lematec although we can't buy them here in Australia. Have to order from US, huge postage costs, so want to be sure it will be a good idea. I have done lots of paint stripping just using chemicals stuff that you paint on, scrape off. Messy, toxic, expensive but am thinking maybe that's my only option. Also has anyone used these guns inside. How do you deal with the mess. Sand, soda whatever you use must go everywhere and get into everything.
I honestly don’t think it would be a good candidate for that circumstance. It’s not great at removing paint, especially latex paint common in homes. It would also be a very messy option and I can’t think of an efficient way to remedy that. Have you checked out the new laser removal tools? Expensive, but they look efficient for something like you’ve mentioned
So does the gun come as an attachment to Harbor freight soda blaster, or is it a different system altogether? I got the harbor freight one for Christmas but I'm not sure it's going to be good enough for my tougher pieces of furniture.
A 60 gallon tank is over 200 litres. That's one hell of a tank. That's huge. There's no way that's portable. You're talking about having a permanent fixture in your workshop. Also, if it's going to knock out over 14cfm then you can't run it on a standard 240v domestic system so you need a proper workshop 3 phase system. And they have to be specially installed - at great expense.
What I use does not require 3 phase and it handles the blaster just fine. And it’s definitely not a mobile/portable setup, which hopefully I didn’t lead anyone to believe that
I wouldn't. IMO it would be too messy unless you had one with a vacuum attachment. I have recently them being used online, but mine is definitely not equipped for that. It creates a lot of dust and it lingers.
60 gallon?? That's the size of the tank. You need cfm. If you want real numbers you need a rotary compressor, but be ready to spend some money and graduate to three phase.
This is an ignorant statement. It has nothing to do with size, but with power. It also depends on which tool you buy. If you don’t how to put two and two together then don’t buy one
What 60gal were you going to get, there are a few of that size? Please add a link if it's no trouble =) I'm saving to buy! I also would like to buy from tractor supply.
As an approximation, a single stage air compressors puts out about 3CFM/HP. If you need 12 CFM at 90PSI you have to stop blasting if the compressor tank pressure drops below 90PSI. A one horsepower compressor could only blast 25% (or less) of the time. If you have a 5hp compressor it might supply 12CFM (but a 7.5HP is probably more real) and you could blast continuously. Smaller horsepower means lots of stop & starts to fill up the tank. A bigger tank means a longer blasting time between stop start. Keep an eye on the pressure gauge (above 90PSI) or just don't blast while the compressor is running. A trade off for needing less CFM is to reduce the nozzle size. That would get less work done but reduce wait times as the compressor cycles. Anybody want to offer additions or corrections to this?
Great information! Thank you
This is the most helpful explanation I’ve found. Thank you from a rookie looking for a simple explanation.
Excellent video. Especially about the moisture filter. I blast on the ground and I use large used cardboard boxe to place the items on.
As soon as I posted the video, I thought, “why didn’t I mention the containment tents?” Ughh…maybe next video ;)
@the323vlog4 hahah. .you did good. Keep the content coming. Super valuable
@@kmcclarney thanks!
What compressor did you endup with?
One good option if you don’t want a large tank and/or don’t have a 240V outlet is a gas powered compressor. Gas powered compressors are usually even more powerful than 240V compressors, and can be used anywhere. However, if working indoors, you want to use a long hose so that the compressor can safely be used outdoors.
Thanks for the advice!
Does the ingersol rand 80 gallo have a 22volt plug? I have been using my grandparents 30 year old 20 gallon compressor so I need to upgrade but do not have a 220 volt plug. Thanks, videos are great!
Yes, it does. I had an electrician add a separate breaker for it
You might also look into using a gas powered compressor. Although they are usually significantly more expensive than electric compressors, a gas powered compressor may be cost competitive if you have to hire an electrician. Also, pretty much ANY gas powered compressor is going to supply the SCFM you need. And because of the sheer muscle of a gas powered compressor (vs most any electric compressor), you don’t need a big tank.
Great video! What do you suggest for the air line diameter and fittings? I have 3/8” NPT 30 gallon but your filter system is 1/2” so is that likely what you will need with a 60 gallon compressor? Thanks so much!
I honestly Don’t have a recommendation. :) I just went with what came with mine .
Hi Boone, I’m writing from Australia and needing to find all similar products but from Aussie suppliers … so the information is brilliant, I do have a kinda odd question, how long do you find a 25 kilo bag of soda lasts, as in how many projects approx. Thank you - you are v inspiring
My 50 lb bags usually last around 60-90 minutes of continuous spraying.
@@the323vlog4 thank you, makes it quite an expensive way to remove old paint at $100 per bag …. maybe should just use for difficult to reach areas
I'm determined to use the Lematec pickup tube soda blaster to strip some chairs, tables, and dressers. I *can* buy an air compressor if I have to but that's a lot for my "girl hobby"--I work full time and so this is a hobby. For the time being, I found a Mi-T-M brand AC I can rent for $57 a day. The specs on it say 13.1 cfm @ 90 psi. I looked it up on Google and it's 8 gallon but you said your Ingersoll Rand is 80 gallon. Am I off base with this one? If I'm going to pay over ~$1600 I'm going to have to drop back and use chemical stripper and sanding. Is the air compressor you have very different from this Mi-T-M?
Not familiar with that compressor, but if the specs line up with the recommended requirements of the gun it should work.
How do you deal with short feeding tube
I haven’t had to deal with that issue. I would engineer one longer I suppose
Just a Heads Up, The Link For The Soda Gun Leads To Filter Regulator. was going use your link to order the gun. ok have a great day or night.
Thanks for the heads up! I corrected it
Boone, using the blaster to sand wood furniture, especially that with a lot of detail and pattern where it is hard to get to with conventional sanding, is a brilliant solution to make the project easier.... Soda works great however, it is a natural weed killer and will kill plants around a working area it touches... have you used other median that works as good as soda that will not damage the wood?
I have used a few other media, but nothing that isn’t as gentle as soda. I don’t have to worry about the plants and grass because I use mine around concrete. If you’re worried about that issue, a spray tent is a good idea that has been recommended before
can anyone advise with removing layers of paint from inside architraves, doorways, windows, even an old fireplace, cement and brick, I am thinking of buying a Le Lematec although we can't buy them here in Australia. Have to order from US, huge postage costs, so want to be sure it will be a good idea. I have done lots of paint stripping just using chemicals stuff that you paint on, scrape off. Messy, toxic, expensive but am thinking maybe that's my only option. Also has anyone used these guns inside. How do you deal with the mess. Sand, soda whatever you use must go everywhere and get into everything.
I honestly don’t think it would be a good candidate for that circumstance. It’s not great at removing paint, especially latex paint common in homes. It would also be a very messy option and I can’t think of an efficient way to remedy that. Have you checked out the new laser removal tools? Expensive, but they look efficient for something like you’ve mentioned
Will this gun sandblast paint off a door ?
Depends on the age, condition, and paint used. I’ve only had minor success on painted items, so I wouldn’t expect great results
So does the gun come as an attachment to Harbor freight soda blaster, or is it a different system altogether? I got the harbor freight one for Christmas but I'm not sure it's going to be good enough for my tougher pieces of furniture.
It is a different system altogether
@@the323vlog4 and you like the one in this video better, right?
@@katherineheislup6010 yes, but in all
Fairness, I never tried the other one with the proper air filter and dryer. That mag have made a difference
Will it take off layers of paint
I have had success with a few paints. It depends on how many layers, their durability, etc. usually no luck with lead based.
A 60 gallon tank is over 200 litres. That's one hell of a tank. That's huge. There's no way that's portable. You're talking about having a permanent fixture in your workshop. Also, if it's going to knock out over 14cfm then you can't run it on a standard 240v domestic system so you need a proper workshop 3 phase system. And they have to be specially installed - at great expense.
What I use does not require 3 phase and it handles the blaster just fine. And it’s definitely not a mobile/portable setup, which hopefully I didn’t lead anyone to believe that
Can you use soda blaster to refinish indoor hardwood floors?
I wouldn't. IMO it would be too messy unless you had one with a vacuum attachment. I have recently them being used online, but mine is definitely not equipped for that. It creates a lot of dust and it lingers.
@@the323vlog4 apart from the dust, will it provide sufficient sanding comparing to drum sanders or orbital sanders?
It really boils down to the condition of the finish. If it’s an older and worn out finish it would probably work well
60 gallon?? That's the size of the tank. You need cfm. If you want real numbers you need a rotary compressor, but be ready to spend some money and graduate to three phase.
I agree, I’m speaking to folks who will have access to big box store compressors and regular electrical. Great input
Waisted my time I wanted to se the compressor
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fuck... 60 gallons,... let's google how much liters that is...
Ok…
240 liters
For god sakes would you please just answer the question what size compressor
This is an ignorant statement. It has nothing to do with size, but with power. It also depends on which tool you buy. If you don’t how to put two and two together then don’t buy one
What 60gal were you going to get, there are a few of that size? Please add a link if it's no trouble =) I'm saving to buy! I also would like to buy from tractor supply.
I got the Ingersol Rand. www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/ingersoll-rand-5-hp-single-stage-twin-cylinder-pro-air-compressor-60-gal