Thank you so much! I've seen so many videos about air tools that skip over sand blastings requirements on an air compressor and I was having trouble figuring out what to look for in a compressor but your video is definitely one of the most helpful and with an awesome recycling unit to boot!
I'm from the Americas, and it doesn't matter where you are from. Your Honesty is what is appreciated. That you for your demonstration of what a person is going to receive for one's money and performance. Nice. Thanks.
I'm from Belgium and i bought a sandblast-cabine the other day and connected it on my compressor. Then started sandblasting.....and yes i didn't work at all. After approximately 1 minute it stopped blasting .....no more pressure. I had to wait for more than 2 minutes to refill the tank. It is a 50 L tank/2HP compressor,so it sucks for sandblasting. So i'm glad i watched this video,so i know what to do now.. Thank you man. great explanation and presentation. Well done.
Yes. I bought one of those Harbor Freight $20 wonders last year. It DOES, in fact work OK. It has about a one quart plastic hopper under it. So run time between refills is only moderate. Since my needs for sandblasting are very limited, that unit seems to be all that I require at this time.
Thank you, and a TR4 is a great car... be aware that you will have to re-jet the DCOE to your vehicle specifications. I have a video out soon on the jetting. Good luck
VERY few people are aware of the importance of CFM/CBM when shopping for compressors, so thanks for illuminating that. But wait, $100?? It's October '21, and I'm seeing these for more like $500 to $700+ (most are in the $700+ range). At $100 or $200, I'd get my wallet out immediately. Still, your video reassured me that even when working on not-so-flat stuff (the hinge, and other irregular non-flat surfaces), the setup still does a *great* job of containment. So my thoughts turn to DIY... especially now that I've realized these aren't pressure-pot, but rather siphon-blast systems. What am I missing? I'm thinking some mods to a shop-vac would get me most of the way there - and high-quality stainless-drum shop vacs are turning up very cheap these days (in the USA, Costco has 'em for around $100...there's that figure again...) Vacuum inlet would need to be screened before the grit gets dropped into the bin - not terribly difficult to engineer within the drum (I'd add a bunch of rust-collecting magnets, too.) Air-filter...stock item. Siphon-tube would just be rigidly mounted to pick up from near the center/bottom of the drum - I might even drill it through the bottom. Compressed-air inlet needn't go through the vac, just direct to the nozzle's inlet. I'd still want to buy the hose/brush/nozzle assembly rather than fabricate from components...but even that seems like a few hours of creative re-assembly, starting with a bog-standard vac hose, angle brush, trigger-nozzle and a few small batches of epoxy. I see those assemblies for $70 right now on ebay, though... Don't those trigger-type siphon-blast guns go through your ceramic nozzles pretty quick? Or can they be refitted with boron-carbide type?
@@patrickgallagher8886 Yes, though limited. I modified a low-cost (Costco) DeWalt shop vac as the basis, and got into customizing hose/brush setups, using much more rugged nozzle, epoxied into a 1-7/8" shop-vac brush attachment. I haven't given up on it, but right off, the siphon-blast platformance kinda sucks, if you'll pardon the pun. It's been a while, but if I remember correctly, even with a gate-valve installed in the sand-siphon line from the vac, I couldn't adjust to a stable sand-draw-rate, so the sand would surge beyond what could be efficiently blown at the work, or starve down to nothing. Transparent hose is vital to be able to monitor sand-flow, but that also meant I couldn't entirely focus on the work, which was annoying or worse. All that said, if my testing had been on a less-challenging project (and not an excavator undercarriage) AND if it hadn't been tending to *rain heavily every few hours*, or I'd had a sheltered location to do the work, I'd probably have felt much more positive about it. I've still got plans to get back into it, but with compressor problems adding to the obstacles, it will be a while.
I worked on a European project for Abrasive removal of the paint systems from aircraft. An F4 normally took 4 days with a team of 8 men stipping the paint off the fuselage using paint stripper with all the environmental problems. I stripped an F4 in 9 hours alone using abrasive media made from ground electrical mouldings. I installed a system at the NAS Cherry Point for stripping the AV8.
Thank you for a great video it really explains the differences between the sandblasting equipment. Checking online I found the all source vac blast which are kind of quite expensive. Home Depot sells them for $729 and Northern tool sells the Allsource vac blast for $649. And first of all the first piece of equipment you need to consider is an adequate air compressor.Prices here in the US are going to run you anywhere from $700-$2000 for a good air compressor that will operate the sandblasters.
. Let me introduce myself. I am working on master thesis on sandblasting. Since the sandblasting is a vast thematic, I would like to interview you with some questions if that is possible.
I just purchased one of these last week for $425 USD including shipping (and no tax). There is a bit more sand blowing around from my experience (about 10-20%). But I'm doing the work inside my garage, and it is under control. Yes a pressure blaster works much faster, but you end up with a sand box everywhere, and I would have to move the vehicle outside and it's inop at this time. Also you have to worry about peening the sheetmetal with a pressure blaster, the lower sand volume reduces this problem (still need to worry about stretching the sheet steel and warping it from sand blasting). I see this video was posted last year, and it's very good at pointing at the biggest pitfall no matter what kind of sand blasting, you need a REAL air compressor. Mine will cycle during continuous use. It needs to be a 2 stage 5HP, 17SCFM@125PSI (in this range, this requires a 25amp 240V circuit). You will know if it's too small as the pressure will drop off during blasting, and you will wait on the compressor to build pressure. If you don't, sand is wasted.
@@D3Sshooter I really like seeing your restoration of this Citroen truck. I don't think I've see the video of you finding the actual cause of the piston failure. This looks like it seized, and caused the ring lands to fail. But the pieces should be in the engine, unless blown out the exhaust. I don't see a video on the engine coming back from the machine shop, so I guess this is in the future. Hope all parts are still available. My current project is a 1957 Chevy 3/4 ton truck. But I also have a 1.5ton 1956 Chevy truck. Also a 1924 Ford Model T 1 ton, with a 2 speed Ruckstell rear axle, and a 1951 Ford 1/2 ton. I collected too much, but now in retirement it's time to work these. I see I just got notification of a new video from your channel. And on the subject of abrasive blasting. Thanks for the videos.
Not a bad bit of kit if you're in Europe but honestly you get far quicker removal with a pressurised 10 gallon pot blaster. It's easy enough to use a large tarpaulin to make an enclosure to capture most of the blast media but there is the added time to de-dust the grit and refill the blaster. All I can say from experience is that pressurising the blasting media works much better than any siphon equipment like that used here.
Something else to consider is that you may get more work out of your volume of air with pressure pot system. Not relevant with as much air as you have but would matter if you had just enough air.
Thankyou so much sir for giving us details about compressor specifications. You are right about people not telling the proper information most of the times vendors themself don't have the required information.
Hope more people watch your video. You explain things very well. The only video I've seen that does that. It's not the blaster, it's the compressor. Have to have plenty of air to run the blaster properly. Nice video
I don't understand English as a native speaker does, but you are speaking so clearly and understandable, it's an amazing education English video ))) Thank you man!
Excellent video. That bigger unit would be worth the extra money just for the time saved in cleaning up and recycling media. All good points, thanks for posting.
Really appreciate your video and the information, was excellent as i was just about to buy a sandblaster but now realise my compressor just won't be up to the job. many thanks
Relaxed and informative presentation and with no annoying music, or "what's up you tuber's" introductions. I enjoyed it and it gave me all the info I needed.
Well presented and very informative .Thanks, very helpful. I like the vertical sand basting container with the brush covered gun , haven't see anything like it in Australia.
If your needs are to clean smaller parts, or sheets, you can get a blasting cabinet. These are available in a number of sizes. Except for a few small models which come with a built-in compressor, you do need one of those. But they collect the abrasive. You just need to remember that the abrasive should be cleaned when reused. You don’t want paint, rust and other garbage blasted onto your part. Additionally, you still should chemically clean something after blasting for best results. Tiny particles of material can stick to the part after blasting, even if it looks clean. This is particularly important before welding and powder coating, not so much before liquid painting. Great video!
@Will Swift there are various cleaning products out there for metals, use whichever ones you like. The grits just recirculate. You don’t have to clean them.
Great video and very real. I did the same as your said Bought a cheap gun and it does ok with 100psi pressure Could use more but the mess is not worth it. I'll be looking into these vaccum tanks Thanks for posting the video
One more detail if you live in the USA - a compressor of appropriate size will need 240v which will possibly add to the cost if you don't happen to have a spare outlet where you will be doing the work. This can add quite a bit of $$ if you need to get an electrician to run a line from your panel.
Very informative Steve - thanks. I have a blasting cabinet with one of those ei-cheapo guns inside it and it is the most frustrating thing to use! I do have a big compressor but watching your video makes me think that the pressure is set too low. I'll try to adjust it. You're right about that recirculating system being good value. I've never seen one before. Thank you so much. Mike
Hi Mike, and first of all you will see your U23 present pop-ing up in the next video, that was really kind of you. So thank you very much for that nice zester and inspiring note. A blasting cabinet is a great tool, I don't have one... but it would be a bit hard to get old rusty in it. You might have an issue with the pressure, 100-118 PSI is a good setting and have enough airflow around 10 cfh. You need both at the same time, so a steady flow of air at 118 PSI, that means that the airtubes must be big enough including the coupling pieces, else that would be to restrictive and you will still have the same problem. Different types of grit can alos make a difference, some are heavier then others. After all, I just provided some general info , and lots depends on what you are blasting. Txs for the comment.... Steve
Very nice! An informative and comprehensive explanations. So now I know the minimum requirement of the air compressor needed, also the best sand blasting system. Two thumbs up 👍🏾👍🏾 Hope the "red" sand blast unit are in market here in Indonesia. Gonna look for that
I made a vapor blasting gun with an electric water pump in a trashcan filled with water and sand. The air compressor blew the sand and water out the gun tip. I used it to clean up a corroded intake manifold for my 258 six cylinder engine on my Jeep. It turned out really nice.
Excellent video presented by an intelligent operator. Remember - NEVER use sand - it is BAD for your health - use the other safer abrasives. Have a safe and nice day all. CHEERS from AUSTRALIA.
Little blasters tend to be feeble and are best for soda blasting carbs etc. For serious blasing I take my metal to my local monument shop as they all have engine drive compressors and industrial blast pots. When I bought my used system I began with two used 5HP industrial (as in real 5 horse motors), a large receiver tank to complement them and coupled the lot with inch bore red hose and Chicago couplings. All those were removed from production environments. Sand blasting is like using machine tools, go industrial or pass.
amazing video, great with the explanation and demonstrations. glad i came across this video, i would have never thought about a recycling system. thank you for your time and expect advice. you gained my subscription.
i'm very new to this but very interesting in making a homeade paintshop and a proper sandblasting setup is a must of course, i've read somewhere that you can't/should not recycle the abrasive, not sure what to believe
I just discovered this video after looking at many others re abrasive blasting, most of which are disappointing. This one is EXCELLENT - very (i) well-presented and produced (ii) comprehensive for its appropriate length, and (iii) knowledgeable & expert. Many of us have learned many valuable skills not taught in school from our parents, grandparents, neighbors, friends, and from those with similar interests and needs. In my long experience as an old guy, it was usually necessary to learn on my own by trial and error. By sheer stupid luck that has not resulted in serious injuries, but it was often slow, error-filled, and costly. Videos such as this are a BONANZA of quick and effective knowledge, launching those like me who are new to abrasive blasting on the path to superior results by identifying the proper equipment, describing minimum features and specs and then demonstrating proper use. Well done!!! Thumbs UP! Thank you!!!!
. Let me introduce myself. I am working on master thesis on sandblasting. Since the sandblasting is a vast thematic, I would like to interview you with some questions if that is possible.
Grit blasting is the only way to remove rust from pitted metal. Water blasting is less dusty but can be messy. The good news is that flash rust treated with phosphoric acid creates iron phosphate. It’s a great primer.
Very much appreciated, I have a 3 gallon compressor that only goes up to 80 - 100psi and I've tried using my air gun with it and it will only fire for about 3 seconds before the pressure drops dramatically. Will have to upgrade my compressor before buying a sand blaster, unfortunately the air compressor is about 3 times the price of any sandblasting unit 😕
I sprayed cars with a 8cfm compressor [with a decent size tank], get one coat on and wait for it to catch up. Though sand blasting uses far more air, 100 psi v about 40. I have a large sand blast cabinet now and a 20cfm compressor with a large tank. With that a $30 bag of garnet lasts a good while. Using a free style one makes a hell of a mess. IF you bund of your work area and start with a clean concrete floor you can save some garnet. Ideally sieve it back into the pot And wear very good breathing and eyes mask as the stuff goes everywhere
Great video - and very true - you need a compressor with sufficient air pressure and capacity. Also might be worth saying that you may also need a water separator unit to remove moisture from the air as finer grits may clog up in the air lines. Especially important in areas of the world with warmer climates and higher humidity levels. Have you tried using other media other than garnet ? Glass beads for instance ?
Thanks for comments, Indeed . I have another video on blasting with another type and there I do refer to a water separator and air cooler to avoid condensation inside the tubes... I did use aluminim oxide , Garnet and small glas beads. Soda can't be used, unless you don't mind de-cloging it every so often.
. Let me introduce myself. I am working on master thesis on sandblasting. Since the sandblasting is a vast thematic, I would like to interview you with some questions if that is possible.
Great video and more companies should divulge compressor size for blasting. The only thing I found was that vacuum blaster is more like $500 dollar than $100.
HI D3Sshooter, Thank you again for this down-to-earth video showing practical information. May I make a recommendation, it would really help people, especially the ones from overseas which may not be familiar with the products available in your country, if you give the brand name of the product(s) you use (unless it is obvious like "Michelin". You have the credibility and you did mention the disclaimer of not sponsoring but for us living in the boonies of Canada, USA and/or Mexico - this really helps. Thank you again, Ciao. L
If you count your own personal time (at least 50 EURO/$ an hour) and then factor in how much time and physical effort it takes (plus it is boring) to sand down a car body shell (it takes days if not weeks) then I suggest that for one project it is more than worthwhile...
Brilliant video thanks. Never seen the "suck and blow" system before. Is it just me, or did anyone else see Santa on the bottom right looking left across the screen at 13:45?
Thanks for an excellent video , only wish I watched it previous to spending $89.00 AU on a open hopper blast kit. The specs on my compressor say it can deliver the pressure needed but it's reservoir tank doesn't hold enough to make it viable.
Hi i found your video very informative and interesting as I'm toying with the idea of buying a sandblaster with a vacuum like yours i have a suitable compressor in my workshop but im looking for a portable compressor that will give me a constant air pressure capable of maintaining sufficient air to run the sandblaster without having to stop and wait until the compressor has built up enough air to start blasting again anyway thanks very much for sharing your knowledge with us. Take care and stay safe. Regards Les
Actually it does tell you right on the package of the blaster. Problem is, most people have no idea what they are reading. They don't understand cfm, volume and flow.
Comfortable tempo, lots of detail, and simple, clear explanations. Hard to obtain the vacuum unit here in Canada (maybe its due to COVID?); sandblasting cabinets are normal/ubiquitous. Thanks for posting! :D
Hi Steve I blame myself for not listening to you. I once viewed this video. Two weeks ago I went and buy sand blaster. It didn't work well for me. I then revisited this video and I then realised I didn't listen when you say one must not consider sandblaster if is not prepared to buy big compressor. Your great follower MBS Moshitoa south Africa
I had a system that plugs into pressure washer so it pushes water and mixes sand into water. That worked but not fast. Pressure washer can give the volume and pressure.
Not sure how that vacume filters what it reclaims but any moisture grease paint chips and such can clog up a blast system pretty quickly and ruin any abrasive u have in the pot with contaminants
Great video thanks for putting out the valuable information I just wish I could find a pressure unit that nice for the money, around here you get less than half the size and features for 2x the cost.
Believe me your going to run into alot of frustration shortly once your cheep compressor gets hot and starts fouling the sandblast nozzle . you need a slow big ol 2 stage compressor and an air dryer . i guarentee youll have a world of hurt after about an hour with this set up
Chip IS POWDER COATING charles brann , txs charles, so far i have had no issues. Off course you don’t blast a full vehicle with this. As you stated, if you are going to blast for hours and hours then another install is needed. I typical rent a pro blast set fir a complete chassis blast job. But it works great for smaller jobs
Met een 8 bar 100 ltr gaat het ook prima, wat langzamer maar voor kleine projecten (velgen o.i.d ) prima te doen. Hele leuke informatieve video Shooter ;)
I am researching what to get to blast under a car with awkward places to reach etc...The big bulky hose would be totally useless for this...Great video though.
The harbour freight sandblaster is no good, I checked one out. 1. It is basically a large 1.2KW vacuum cleaner attached to a siphon fed gun. 2. You can buy the harbour freight 2KW industrial vacuum cleaner for half the price. The problem with siphon fed is that you lose a lot of your blast pressure, which is needed to suck the sand into the gun. Ideal nozzle pressure for sandblasting is 7 bar. With a small 8 Bar compressor you wont get that if you have to suck the sand. You can purchase the Harbour Freight pressure pot sand blaster AND the 2KW industrial Vac for the same price as this. And blast at the pressure of your compressor with double the vacuum power. Also a pressure pot with a choke valve allows you to apply the full pressure of your compressor to blow out any blockages simply by turning the valve, while a siphon fed gun system needs to be disassembled and cleared.
First I want to wish you happy New Year. And I must say this is one great video in a sea of ones you have mention - missleading, incomplete, sweet talk etc - also, I have to say that I whatch them and made mistake - I bought week compressor and tool for it and you can guess - almost nothing works and it is completly useless ! After that I have learned what is air flow... But ok, lesson learned, sadly with that much damadge and ruined projects that I could easely buy the right stuff on start - without 1000 euros you even dont think to buy compessor, but normaly no one will tell you that :) Well as I sad, good video, this is first one of your videos I saw and what I heard - there is more of them and it is about old car and I have same project that Im working on for few months, my car is not that old - she is 20 now but body was in extremly bad condition, she have sit for 4 years in some backyard and rusted and got all rotten so I found one better but not perfect... So I will check out your channel, thank you ! Cheers :)
Super video, thanks. I have exactly that problem, I’m building a new chassis for my restoration and using some of the old bracketry and furniture off the old and really struggling in some of the less accessible locations to get clean enough metal for decent welding. That’s the only drawback I see to the vacuum type gun, it’s very bulky, probably there is a time and a place for both types I guess.
There is only one way to go with a car restoration as far as I'm concerned. Blast the rusty areas, and after repair, spray it with epoxy surfacer. My days of wire suicide wheels on angle grinders are a thing of the past. It does not tackle the rust completely, so it just comes back.
Thanks for this video and its title is sooo true, diving down the DIY sand blasting rabbit hole can be a ridiculously expensive waste of time, in Australia you need a compressor that's so fucking enormous it runs off 3 phase power (7.5hp) and a very large area indeed preferably enclosed unless you want your shed to look like its been hit by a sandstorm. Bottom line, just take the fucking job to a professional, it will cost you less than the garnet you'll go thru with a DIY effort.
CFM and nozzle are the major considerations to make a sandblaster work. Moisture is your biggest enemy. A tank where you're starting and stopping it's just a place to collect moisture and frustration. Pressure and tank size are almost meaningless it's used more as a marketing tool for junk air compressors. If the CFM is not listed then walk away from that compressor. Pressure is created through restriction. Velocity is more important. So size your tip where you get the velocity you need while the compressor either cycles nor runs out of capacity.
Thank you so much! I've seen so many videos about air tools that skip over sand blastings requirements on an air compressor and I was having trouble figuring out what to look for in a compressor but your video is definitely one of the most helpful and with an awesome recycling unit to boot!
Glad it helped!
I'm from the Americas, and it doesn't matter where you are from. Your Honesty is what is appreciated. That you for your demonstration of what a person is going to receive for one's money and performance. Nice. Thanks.
Thanks for the nice comments
This is the most helpful sand blastering video I've seen. Thank you.
yes!! totally agree!
Yeaaah no unless we had some links then ya
I'm from Belgium and i bought a sandblast-cabine the other day and connected it on my compressor. Then started sandblasting.....and yes i didn't work at all. After approximately 1 minute it stopped blasting .....no more pressure. I had to wait for more than 2 minutes to refill the tank. It is a 50 L tank/2HP compressor,so it sucks for sandblasting. So i'm glad i watched this video,so i know what to do now.. Thank you man. great explanation and presentation. Well done.
TXS for the comments
This 2 year video just got you a new subscriber! Thank you for making this. Not all of us are tool or mechanically savvy.
Thanks for the sub!
Yes. I bought one of those Harbor Freight $20 wonders last year.
It DOES, in fact work OK. It has about a one quart plastic hopper under it. So run time between refills is only moderate.
Since my needs for sandblasting are very limited, that unit seems to be all that I require at this time.
is 2.5HP with 50L Tank Compressor enough to sandblast 20 inch alloys? cheers
@@sametoruc556 Good question..
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Thank you, someone who explained what is actually needed, great video
Glad it was helpful!
Very informative video! And no one tells you what compressor you need. Thank you again.
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for the comments
Great Video!! I am rebuilding a '63 TR4 and was offered DCOE 40's for it - your video completely demystified it for me - thanks
Thank you, and a TR4 is a great car... be aware that you will have to re-jet the DCOE to your vehicle specifications. I have a video out soon on the jetting. Good luck
Soda blast carburetor, safer
great video , I like how you took the time to explain everything there's never enough information of something thanks
Robert Schauer my pleasure and thanks for the comments
VERY few people are aware of the importance of CFM/CBM when shopping for compressors, so thanks for illuminating that.
But wait, $100?? It's October '21, and I'm seeing these for more like $500 to $700+ (most are in the $700+ range). At $100 or $200, I'd get my wallet out immediately. Still, your video reassured me that even when working on not-so-flat stuff (the hinge, and other irregular non-flat surfaces), the setup still does a *great* job of containment.
So my thoughts turn to DIY... especially now that I've realized these aren't pressure-pot, but rather siphon-blast systems. What am I missing?
I'm thinking some mods to a shop-vac would get me most of the way there - and high-quality stainless-drum shop vacs are turning up very cheap these days (in the USA, Costco has 'em for around $100...there's that figure again...)
Vacuum inlet would need to be screened before the grit gets dropped into the bin - not terribly difficult to engineer within the drum (I'd add a bunch of rust-collecting magnets, too.)
Air-filter...stock item.
Siphon-tube would just be rigidly mounted to pick up from near the center/bottom of the drum - I might even drill it through the bottom.
Compressed-air inlet needn't go through the vac, just direct to the nozzle's inlet.
I'd still want to buy the hose/brush/nozzle assembly rather than fabricate from components...but even that seems like a few hours of creative re-assembly, starting with a bog-standard vac hose, angle brush, trigger-nozzle and a few small batches of epoxy. I see those assemblies for $70 right now on ebay, though...
Don't those trigger-type siphon-blast guns go through your ceramic nozzles pretty quick? Or can they be refitted with boron-carbide type?
Thanks for the comments
Did you ever make any progress with this? I am keen to do something similar.
@@patrickgallagher8886 Yes, though limited. I modified a low-cost (Costco) DeWalt shop vac as the basis, and got into customizing hose/brush setups, using much more rugged nozzle, epoxied into a 1-7/8" shop-vac brush attachment. I haven't given up on it, but right off, the siphon-blast platformance kinda sucks, if you'll pardon the pun. It's been a while, but if I remember correctly, even with a gate-valve installed in the sand-siphon line from the vac, I couldn't adjust to a stable sand-draw-rate, so the sand would surge beyond what could be efficiently blown at the work, or starve down to nothing. Transparent hose is vital to be able to monitor sand-flow, but that also meant I couldn't entirely focus on the work, which was annoying or worse.
All that said, if my testing had been on a less-challenging project (and not an excavator undercarriage) AND if it hadn't been tending to *rain heavily every few hours*, or I'd had a sheltered location to do the work, I'd probably have felt much more positive about it. I've still got plans to get back into it, but with compressor problems adding to the obstacles, it will be a while.
A sandblaster totally makes sense if you use a tarp or other contraption to save your blasting media.
If you don't save it then yes it's a ripoff.
I worked on a European project for Abrasive removal of the paint systems from aircraft. An F4 normally took 4 days with a team of 8 men stipping the paint off the fuselage using paint stripper with all the environmental problems. I stripped an F4 in 9 hours alone using abrasive media made from ground electrical mouldings. I installed a system at the NAS Cherry Point for stripping the AV8.
Finally someone offering advice on the air compressor- Thank you!!
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you for a great video it really explains the differences between the sandblasting equipment. Checking online I found the all source vac blast which are kind of quite expensive. Home Depot sells them for $729 and Northern tool sells the Allsource vac blast for $649. And first of all the first piece of equipment you need to consider is an adequate air compressor.Prices here in the US are going to run you anywhere from $700-$2000 for a good air compressor that will operate the sandblasters.
Thanks for watching!
. Let me introduce myself. I am working on master thesis on sandblasting. Since the sandblasting is a vast thematic, I would like to interview you with some questions if that is possible.
I just purchased one of these last week for $425 USD including shipping (and no tax). There is a bit more sand blowing around from my experience (about 10-20%). But I'm doing the work inside my garage, and it is under control.
Yes a pressure blaster works much faster, but you end up with a sand box everywhere, and I would have to move the vehicle outside and it's inop at this time. Also you have to worry about peening the sheetmetal with a pressure blaster, the lower sand volume reduces this problem (still need to worry about stretching the sheet steel and warping it from sand blasting).
I see this video was posted last year, and it's very good at pointing at the biggest pitfall no matter what kind of sand blasting, you need a REAL air compressor. Mine will cycle during continuous use. It needs to be a 2 stage 5HP, 17SCFM@125PSI (in this range, this requires a 25amp 240V circuit). You will know if it's too small as the pressure will drop off during blasting, and you will wait on the compressor to build pressure. If you don't, sand is wasted.
Indeed , the compressor is key
@@D3Sshooter I really like seeing your restoration of this Citroen truck. I don't think I've see the video of you finding the actual cause of the piston failure. This looks like it seized, and caused the ring lands to fail. But the pieces should be in the engine, unless blown out the exhaust. I don't see a video on the engine coming back from the machine shop, so I guess this is in the future. Hope all parts are still available.
My current project is a 1957 Chevy 3/4 ton truck. But I also have a 1.5ton 1956 Chevy truck. Also a 1924 Ford Model T 1 ton, with a 2 speed Ruckstell rear axle, and a 1951 Ford 1/2 ton. I collected too much, but now in retirement it's time to work these.
I see I just got notification of a new video from your channel. And on the subject of abrasive blasting. Thanks for the videos.
Not a bad bit of kit if you're in Europe but honestly you get far quicker removal with a pressurised 10 gallon pot blaster. It's easy enough to use a large tarpaulin to make an enclosure to capture most of the blast media but there is the added time to de-dust the grit and refill the blaster.
All I can say from experience is that pressurising the blasting media works much better than any siphon equipment like that used here.
Thanks Mike, always good to hear other views and opinions.
Something else to consider is that you may get more work out of your volume of air with pressure pot system. Not relevant with as much air as you have but would matter if you had just enough air.
Another very good point made.
Safety gear.
The dust residue from using sand is very DANGEROUS to breathe. You should have a dust mask when operating.
I don't believe so as he's using garnet
Thankyou so much sir for giving us details about compressor specifications. You are right about people not telling the proper information most of the times vendors themself don't have the required information.
You are most welcome
Hope more people watch your video. You explain things very well. The only video I've seen that does that. It's not the blaster, it's the compressor. Have to have plenty of air to run the blaster properly. Nice video
Thank you for the comments
That's the first time that I've seen one of those vacuum sandblaster setups. That's exactly what I've been looking for!
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I agree, but where do you get that setup?
@@paddy6062 www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200435367_200435367?cm_mmc=Google-pla&Google_PLA&Abrasive%20%2B%20Sand%20Blasters%20%3E%20Portable%20Abrasive%20Blasters&AllSource&gclid=CjwKCAjw36DpBRAYEiwAmVVDMKz9yEaFZYZ9t9D-Qh3XUX_e0Mcgt1cSsUHQRKIEoPd2kNz5HGr_0RoC0MwQAvD_BwE
@@paddy6062 I got mine at HLM machines, web shop in the Nederlands
This is the most best video ive never seen before! nice tips and thx for that psi calculation
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I don't understand English as a native speaker does, but you are speaking so clearly and understandable, it's an amazing education English video ))) Thank you man!
Thanks for the comments , I try and I am no native speaker either
What is the name of that red sandblasting system?
Great video. I made one with some PVC parts, a shop vac dust brush and some zip ties. I hooked it up to my shop vac. About $25 in parts. Works great.
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Excellent video.
That bigger unit would be worth the extra money just for the time saved in cleaning up and recycling media.
All good points, thanks for posting.
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Where can I buy this shit that he used ?
www.amazon.com/Gallon-Sand-Blaster-VACUUM-SandBlaster/dp/B01EIAD1OE/ref=asc_df_B01EIAD1OE/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=343230804212&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=14115881007953147958&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9029035&hvtargid=pla-757331008060&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=70737352762&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=343230804212&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=14115881007953147958&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9029035&hvtargid=pla-757331008060
Really appreciate your video and the information, was excellent as i was just about to buy a sandblaster but now realise my compressor just won't be up to the job. many thanks
Glad I could help
Prachtige duidelijke uitleg uit de praktijk die ik goed kan gebruiken ivm de aanschaf straalketel en compressor. Top en vriendelijk bedankt.
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Thank you for the perspective and insight. I'll be following your advice. Very nice work on putting the video together.
One of the best sandblasting videos I've seen on UA-cam, Thank you for sharing this amazing Information :)
My pleasure, U bent toch die shop tegen het genste aan niet ?
Sorry, got confused with another shop in belgium that has the same name. By the way , great channel you have.... I subscribed
D3Sshooter thank you brother, same to you 😊. next time I do some sandblasting I will give your channel a shout out 👍
Thanks Pal
I AGREE MOST INFORMATIVE
Relaxed and informative presentation and with no annoying music, or "what's up you tuber's" introductions. I enjoyed it and it gave me all the info I needed.
Glad you enjoyed it!
You would make an amazing teacher. Thank you for the video.
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Well presented and very informative .Thanks, very helpful. I like the vertical sand basting container with the brush covered gun , haven't see anything like it in Australia.
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If your needs are to clean smaller parts, or sheets, you can get a blasting cabinet. These are available in a number of sizes. Except for a few small models which come with a built-in compressor, you do need one of those. But they collect the abrasive. You just need to remember that the abrasive should be cleaned when reused. You don’t want paint, rust and other garbage blasted onto your part.
Additionally, you still should chemically clean something after blasting for best results. Tiny particles of material can stick to the part after blasting, even if it looks clean. This is particularly important before welding and powder coating, not so much before liquid painting.
Great video!
Very good points, thank you for the comments
@Will Swift there are various cleaning products out there for metals, use whichever ones you like. The grits just recirculate. You don’t have to clean them.
This is the most useful video on sandblasting. Deserves more views
Great video and very real.
I did the same as your said
Bought a cheap gun and it does ok with 100psi pressure
Could use more but the mess is not worth it.
I'll be looking into these vaccum tanks
Thanks for posting the video
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Get a sandless blaster..no mess and it will strip a car in an hour.
I'll definitely be using my homemade sandblaster on my truck soon. This video reminded me.
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Great video with lot's of information very good demonstration I am now a happy subscriber 😂
Thanks to you, Mr Steve, for your information, experience and support.
thank you for the info down to earth and very informative good luck for the future
Thanks for watching!
One more detail if you live in the USA - a compressor of appropriate size will need 240v which will possibly add to the cost if you don't happen to have a spare outlet where you will be doing the work. This can add quite a bit of $$ if you need to get an electrician to run a line from your panel.
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Very informative Steve - thanks. I have a blasting cabinet with one of those ei-cheapo guns inside it and it is the most frustrating thing to use! I do have a big compressor but watching your video makes me think that the pressure is set too low. I'll try to adjust it. You're right about that recirculating system being good value. I've never seen one before. Thank you so much. Mike
Hi Mike, and first of all you will see your U23 present pop-ing up in the next video, that was really kind of you. So thank you very much for that nice zester and inspiring note. A blasting cabinet is a great tool, I don't have one... but it would be a bit hard to get old rusty in it. You might have an issue with the pressure, 100-118 PSI is a good setting and have enough airflow around 10 cfh. You need both at the same time, so a steady flow of air at 118 PSI, that means that the airtubes must be big enough including the coupling pieces, else that would be to restrictive and you will still have the same problem. Different types of grit can alos make a difference, some are heavier then others. After all, I just provided some general info , and lots depends on what you are blasting. Txs for the comment.... Steve
Great to see someone talk about air compressors at last
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Thanks for showing the complete picture of sand blasting.
No problem 👍 Thank you for the comments
Do not buy sandblaster I had very nice home now it's a beach
Txs for the comments,
Very nice! An informative and comprehensive explanations. So now I know the minimum requirement of the air compressor needed, also the best sand blasting system. Two thumbs up 👍🏾👍🏾
Hope the "red" sand blast unit are in market here in Indonesia. Gonna look for that
You are welcome!
I made a vapor blasting gun with an electric water pump in a trashcan filled with water and sand. The air compressor blew the sand and water out the gun tip.
I used it to clean up a corroded intake manifold for my 258 six cylinder engine on my Jeep. It turned out really nice.
Excellent video presented by an intelligent operator. Remember - NEVER use sand - it is BAD for your health - use the other safer abrasives. Have a safe and nice day all. CHEERS from AUSTRALIA.
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This is the most helpful sand blasting video I've seen. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
Very informative video. The same issue applies to a plasma cutter, it wont work without adequate air pressure and volume. 👍
TheRebelOne txs. Indeed that is the other area that people often forget
Little blasters tend to be feeble and are best for soda blasting carbs etc. For serious blasing I take my metal to my local monument shop as they all have engine drive compressors and industrial blast pots. When I bought my used system I began with two used 5HP industrial (as in real 5 horse motors), a large receiver tank to complement them and coupled the lot with inch bore red hose and Chicago couplings. All those were removed from production environments. Sand blasting is like using machine tools, go industrial or pass.
very informative video, thanks for all your tips, this made me know better what to expect with different options when buying a sandblaster, thanks
My pleasure and hopefully I could help a bit
amazing video, great with the explanation and demonstrations. glad i came across this video, i would have never thought about a recycling system. thank you for your time and expect advice. you gained my subscription.
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i'm very new to this but very interesting in making a homeade paintshop and a proper sandblasting setup is a must of course, i've read somewhere that you can't/should not recycle the abrasive, not sure what to believe
Thanks for the comments , you can re-use it. But it cuts less good and has a lot of dust in it and harm-full particles from the previuos blast
Great little vid..... Thank you! That blaster is pretty cool.
Glad you enjoyed it
I just discovered this video after looking at many others re abrasive blasting, most of which are disappointing. This one is EXCELLENT - very (i) well-presented and produced (ii) comprehensive for its appropriate length, and (iii) knowledgeable & expert. Many of us have learned many valuable skills not taught in school from our parents, grandparents, neighbors, friends, and from those with similar interests and needs. In my long experience as an old guy, it was usually necessary to learn on my own by trial and error. By sheer stupid luck that has not resulted in serious injuries, but it was often slow, error-filled, and costly. Videos such as this are a BONANZA of quick and effective knowledge, launching those like me who are new to abrasive blasting on the path to superior results by identifying the proper equipment, describing minimum features and specs and then demonstrating proper use. Well done!!! Thumbs UP! Thank you!!!!
Thanks for the comments, really appreciate it
. Let me introduce myself. I am working on master thesis on sandblasting. Since the sandblasting is a vast thematic, I would like to interview you with some questions if that is possible.
Grit blasting is the only way to remove rust from pitted metal. Water blasting is less dusty but can be messy. The good news is that flash rust treated with phosphoric acid creates iron phosphate. It’s a great primer.
I used to bead blast Machine Parts for a medical supply company specializing in back surgery surgical deal parts and it was very tedious work
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I have never seen anything so amazing!!
Great info and good details. Thank you sir!
My pleasure!
Really excellent vid. You set the standard. I would think using a tarp would speed up the clean up process.
Thanks for the tip
Very much appreciated, I have a 3 gallon compressor that only goes up to 80 - 100psi and I've tried using my air gun with it and it will only fire for about 3 seconds before the pressure drops dramatically. Will have to upgrade my compressor before buying a sand blaster, unfortunately the air compressor is about 3 times the price of any sandblasting unit 😕
Indeed that is the problem , and they do not tell you that when you buy the tools
I sprayed cars with a 8cfm compressor [with a decent size tank], get one coat on and wait for it to catch up. Though sand blasting uses far more air, 100 psi v about 40.
I have a large sand blast cabinet now and a 20cfm compressor with a large tank.
With that a $30 bag of garnet lasts a good while. Using a free style one makes a hell of a mess.
IF you bund of your work area and start with a clean concrete floor you can save some garnet. Ideally sieve it back into the pot
And wear very good breathing and eyes mask as the stuff goes everywhere
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Great video! That is all the information necessary, to decide if a sandblaster will work for your needs!
Thank you!
Yes. Nearly all commercial compressors here are rated in "CFM".
Great video - and very true - you need a compressor with sufficient air pressure and capacity. Also might be worth saying that you may also need a water separator unit to remove moisture from the air as finer grits may clog up in the air lines. Especially important in areas of the world with warmer climates and higher humidity levels. Have you tried using other media other than garnet ? Glass beads for instance ?
Thanks for comments, Indeed . I have another video on blasting with another type and there I do refer to a water separator and air cooler to avoid condensation inside the tubes... I did use aluminim oxide , Garnet and small glas beads. Soda can't be used, unless you don't mind de-cloging it every so often.
. Let me introduce myself. I am working on master thesis on sandblasting. Since the sandblasting is a vast thematic, I would like to interview you with some questions if that is possible.
Great video and more companies should divulge compressor size for blasting.
The only thing I found was that vacuum blaster is more like $500 dollar than $100.
www.amazon.com/Gallon-Sand-Blaster-VACUUM-SandBlaster/dp/B01EIAD1OE/ref=asc_df_B01EIAD1OE/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=343230804212&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=14115881007953147958&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9029035&hvtargid=pla-757331008060&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=70737352762&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=343230804212&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=14115881007953147958&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9029035&hvtargid=pla-757331008060
Thanks for the info!
HI D3Sshooter, Thank you again for this down-to-earth video showing practical information. May I make a recommendation, it would really help people, especially the ones from overseas which may not be familiar with the products available in your country, if you give the brand name of the product(s) you use (unless it is obvious like "Michelin". You have the credibility and you did mention the disclaimer of not sponsoring but for us living in the boonies of Canada, USA and/or Mexico - this really helps. Thank you again, Ciao. L
txs for the comments, I know that the brands and products can differ. Yet the principle remains the same.
I have not seen a better video than this you talk about the most important parts to sandblasting
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If you count your own personal time (at least 50 EURO/$ an hour) and then factor in how much time and physical effort it takes (plus it is boring) to sand down a car body shell (it takes days if not weeks) then I suggest that for one project it is more than worthwhile...
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I like your style. good information.
was hoping to see the first type of sandblaster demo'd
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WOW! That is all I can say. Super good video and very informative. Just wish I had that system.
Glad you liked it!
Nice but 90€ for the vacuumized sandblaster seems a little optimistic!
That is without Tax at HBM machines
@@D3Sshooter I don't think you can get that system in the USA for $100?
Model in this video at HBM machines cost 250€ in Belgium, that's the true.
Have 2 cylinder compressor. 500 litres and 480 litres per minute. Hope it's gonna work with non vacuum system for rust removing from car.
www.homedepot.com/p/Allsource-28-Gal-Abrasive-Blaster-With-Vacuum-41700/303890521?mtc=Shopping-B-F_D25H-G-D25H-25_28_COMPRESSORS_AND_AIR_TOOL-Multi-NA-Feed-PLA-NA-NA-Compressors_PLA&cm_mmc=Shopping-B-F_D25H-G-D25H-25_28_COMPRESSORS_AND_AIR_TOOL-Multi-NA-Feed-PLA-NA-NA-Compressors_PLA-71700000052227371-58700005026398229-92700050718652120&gclsrc=aw.ds&&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI3ZHPlY775wIVk-NkCh0WzwDDEAQYAiABEgKI6fD_BwE
Brilliant video thanks. Never seen the "suck and blow" system before. Is it just me, or did anyone else see Santa on the bottom right looking left across the screen at 13:45?
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Thanks for an excellent video , only wish I watched it previous to spending $89.00 AU on a open hopper blast kit. The specs on my compressor say it can deliver the pressure needed but it's reservoir tank doesn't hold enough to make it viable.
Glad it helped
Hi i found your video very informative and interesting as I'm toying with the idea of buying a sandblaster with a vacuum like yours i have a suitable compressor in my workshop but im looking for a portable compressor that will give me a constant air pressure capable of maintaining sufficient air to run the sandblaster without having to stop and wait until the compressor has built up
enough air to start blasting again anyway thanks very much for sharing your knowledge with us. Take care and stay safe. Regards Les
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Actually it does tell you right on the package of the blaster. Problem is, most people have no idea what they are reading. They don't understand cfm, volume and flow.
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Comfortable tempo, lots of detail, and simple, clear explanations. Hard to obtain the vacuum unit here in Canada (maybe its due to COVID?); sandblasting cabinets are normal/ubiquitous. Thanks for posting! :D
Thanks for watching!
I am looking around for one now. They seem to be in the $1,500 range CAD.
Hi Steve I blame myself for not listening to you. I once viewed this video. Two weeks ago I went and buy sand blaster. It didn't work well for me. I then revisited this video and I then realised I didn't listen when you say one must not consider sandblaster if is not prepared to buy big compressor.
Your great follower
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Very professional video. It helped me well. Thank you.
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I had a system that plugs into pressure washer so it pushes water and mixes sand into water. That worked but not fast. Pressure washer can give the volume and pressure.
Not sure how that vacume filters what it reclaims but any moisture grease paint chips and such can clog up a blast system pretty quickly and ruin any abrasive u have in the pot with contaminants
Txs for the comments, indeed
Great video thanks for putting out the valuable information I just wish I could find a pressure unit that nice for the money, around here you get less than half the size and features for 2x the cost.
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what brand machine is this? And where do i find it for the price you're talking about, i'm from Belgium
Have a look at HDB machines,
Believe me your going to run into alot of frustration shortly once your cheep compressor gets hot and starts fouling the sandblast nozzle . you need a slow big ol 2 stage compressor and an air dryer . i guarentee youll have a world of hurt after about an hour with this set up
Chip IS POWDER COATING charles brann , txs charles, so far i have had no issues. Off course you don’t blast a full vehicle with this. As you stated, if you are going to blast for hours and hours then another install is needed. I typical rent a pro blast set fir a complete chassis blast job. But it works great for smaller jobs
Met een 8 bar 100 ltr gaat het ook prima, wat langzamer maar voor kleine projecten (velgen o.i.d ) prima te doen. Hele leuke informatieve video Shooter ;)
Xinix Xagnix , inderdaad maar voor kortere blast tijden. Bedankt
I am researching what to get to blast under a car with awkward places to reach etc...The big bulky hose would be totally useless for this...Great video though.
The harbour freight sandblaster is no good, I checked one out.
1. It is basically a large 1.2KW vacuum cleaner attached to a siphon fed gun.
2. You can buy the harbour freight 2KW industrial vacuum cleaner for half the price.
The problem with siphon fed is that you lose a lot of your blast pressure, which is needed to suck the sand into the gun.
Ideal nozzle pressure for sandblasting is 7 bar. With a small 8 Bar compressor you wont get that if you have to suck the sand.
You can purchase the Harbour Freight pressure pot sand blaster AND the 2KW industrial Vac for the same price as this. And blast at the pressure of your compressor with double the vacuum power. Also a pressure pot with a choke valve allows you to apply the full pressure of your compressor to blow out any blockages simply by turning the valve, while a siphon fed gun system needs to be disassembled and cleared.
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You need more air for 4 mm nozzles you need 500lt/min@6-7 bar for 5mm nozzles 700-800 lt/min @ 6-7 bar so the 3 hp power compressor doesnt do the job.
Konstantinos Kalogerakis yes indeed
Where do you get that for 90 EUR?! Where I live the HBM SBC 28 is 300 EUR with VAT...
True that! Also 300l to blast is still not enough volume!
First I want to wish you happy New Year. And I must say this is one great video in a sea of ones you have mention - missleading, incomplete, sweet talk etc - also, I have to say that I whatch them and made mistake - I bought week compressor and tool for it and you can guess - almost nothing works and it is completly useless ! After that I have learned what is air flow... But ok, lesson learned, sadly with that much damadge and ruined projects that I could easely buy the right stuff on start - without 1000 euros you even dont think to buy compessor, but normaly no one will tell you that :) Well as I sad, good video, this is first one of your videos I saw and what I heard - there is more of them and it is about old car and I have same project that Im working on for few months, my car is not that old - she is 20 now but body was in extremly bad condition, she have sit for 4 years in some backyard and rusted and got all rotten so I found one better but not perfect... So I will check out your channel, thank you ! Cheers :)
Thank you, and goodluck
Super video, thanks. I have exactly that problem, I’m building a new chassis for my restoration and using some of the old bracketry and furniture off the old and really struggling in some of the less accessible locations to get clean enough metal for decent welding. That’s the only drawback I see to the vacuum type gun, it’s very bulky, probably there is a time and a place for both types I guess.
There is only one way to go with a car restoration as far as I'm concerned. Blast the rusty areas, and after repair, spray it with epoxy surfacer. My days of wire suicide wheels on angle grinders are a thing of the past. It does not tackle the rust completely, so it just comes back.
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Thanks for this video and its title is sooo true, diving down the DIY sand blasting rabbit hole can be a ridiculously expensive waste of time, in Australia you need a compressor that's so fucking enormous it runs off 3 phase power (7.5hp) and a very large area indeed preferably enclosed unless you want your shed to look like its been hit by a sandstorm. Bottom line, just take the fucking job to a professional, it will cost you less than the garnet you'll go thru with a DIY effort.
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Thank you for this very informative video. I wish I could work with you.
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Great video, really informative and well explained - thanks very much!
Glad you enjoyed it!
The sand blaster is up on Amazon as a sandblaster with vacuum for $500 which is not a terrible price (that is shipped to you)
Have look here, 231 euro ( less tax) www.hbm-machines.com/producten/straalcabines/straalketels/hbm-sbc-28-straalketel-met-afzuiging
CFM and nozzle are the major considerations to make a sandblaster work. Moisture is your biggest enemy. A tank where you're starting and stopping it's just a place to collect moisture and frustration. Pressure and tank size are almost meaningless it's used more as a marketing tool for junk air compressors. If the CFM is not listed then walk away from that compressor. Pressure is created through restriction. Velocity is more important. So size your tip where you get the velocity you need while the compressor either cycles nor runs out of capacity.
really informative video. ive been scouting prices for sandblasters and wondered why about the cheap ones
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Disregard, I found the information on the blaster in a previous comment post.
Enjoyed your video.
Thanks!
Cool, thanks
Thanks for sharing your good information.
My pleasure