Using a Starter to verify Dual Case Load Reduction
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- Опубліковано 10 лип 2024
- In this video we demonstrate how much load is being reduced on the drive train by engaging our Marlin Crawler Dual Case Transfer Case System.
Comparisons shown are:
Stock Low Range (2.28:1)
Marlin Crawler Stock Dual Case (2.28:1 x 2.28:1 = 5.20:1)
Marlin Crawler Dual Ultimate (2.28:1 x 4.70:1 = 10.72:1)
For vehicles with start-cancel bypasses, having the Starter function so effortlessly on incredibly steep climbs is just another way the Marlin Crawler adds Control and Security to the driver and truck. You no longer have to disengage gears and trust the brakes to hold you while cranking: You let the Marlin Crawler do the work from the comfort and control of the driver seat!
We manufacture Dual Transfer Case Setups for most 1979 and newer Toyota 4WD trucks and SUVs including Automatic, Manual, Carbureted, Fuel Injected, 4cyl, 6cyl, and 8cyl applications.
To see some historical photos of the World Famous 1980 "Crawler Truck", please see our Vintage Photo Gallery here: www.marlincrawler.com/vintage
The Crawler Truck has a 2.7-liter 4cyl Tacoma 3RZ-FE smog-legal Engine conversion with a Triple Ultimate Marlin Crawler Transfer Case setup resulting in a 1,148:1 final drive / Crawl Ratio.
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That makes me cringe when he tries to start it in factory low. Poor starter
😢
I assure you the abuse may even have made the truck stronger... This video is evidence of how much abuse these vehicles can take. Its quite shocking. Starter's prolly like I'm only 20 years past my warranty... Try harder.
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What Toyota model is that?
Hahahaha, look at these cinematic angles with that other taco perfectly framed in the background of that first shot
Thanks for all the recent videos Mike. You're slowly convincing me to cut a hole in the floor of my all original red 82 pickup. Haha.
Ohh wow that is a difficult decision!
Do it you can always patch it up
The fact it was idling and still crawling up ... 😍
I want that truck as is.
You'll have to get the RC4WD 1/10 scale replica because Marlin is taking this thing to the heavens with him.
@@pf465 😂
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I've been Wheeling a Toyota with Marlin l52hd and dual ultimate setup for 10 years and never thought to just start the engine in low range while staying in gear on a steep incline.. makes things much easier and it won't roll back. Thx for the tip.
Definitely Wesley and thank you for your trust in our products! Try it the next time you're out on the trail and Please reply here to let us know how it went 😊
Ala Mark Smith.
@@MarlinCrawlerMedia was this filmed on the Rubicon Trail?
No, that looks to be around the Ershim / Shaver Lake area, mountains above Fresno. That dirt looks about a 10 grit, whereas Rubicon dirt is 5 grit and a bit darker with hints of pine and a slightly dry finish.
@@pf465 Don't forget the microcrystalline fraction of dried unicorn tears and Bigfoot hairs. Dead giveaway of location for the observant person.
*removes engine and adds more batteries, rock crawl all day with just a starter*
*weight reduction*
Or replace the engine with a predator 212 and have enough fuel to crawl for weeks
Or put a big solar panel on it with a small RC motor and go forever!
@@promiscuouscrab4040 😂 funny!
an electric rock crawler would be cool af
That's incredible mate
I'm definitely going to run one in the future. You should sell heaps of those here in Australia.
Great video
Best demos on the net
Cheers Bruce
Great stuff as always
My 4runner rolls coal at that angle 🤘🏻😂🤘🏻. I have the dual cases with the marlin 470, never knew about this trick. I would be clutch and brake trying to start my truck🤦🏼♂️. Thanks for this video!
That is one of the things I really miss about my truck!! Thanks for the awesome memories! PS nice mirrors on the mc original crawler they look kinda motorcycle ish very cool
Enjoying your rock crawling, Kerry and Meyer family of your Tujunga days - way to go!
Hello to Marlin and Christine from Yvonne Meyer and very large family with 15 great grands we remember the “old” Tujunga days often with a huge smile and applause for your success.
Hello to the Meyer family! This is Marlin’s son BigMike. It’s really great to hear from such close family friends. I will pass this message to Marlin and Christine. So glad to hear Yvonne is doing well 😌😌 I’ve only met Kerry once or twice but pls tell him I said Hello 👋🏼
The internal struggle rages on. The only thing keeping me from buying a yota and building a crawler, are how expensive the tires are.
Edit: Subscribed because great content.
93da9teg's Mom I just baught a full set of bfg with 90 percent tread for 200 bucks. Just gotta keep an eye out. :)
Yeah if the price of tires is your concern, building a crawler probably isn't in your budget.
That truck is awesome!
Hey mike im over in East Tennessee, feel free to come get my 85 sr5 straight axle truck and throw whatever at it, I'll daily it and represent whatever!! I love your vids and most of all the well known, trusted parts!!!! Best of all it was a barn find with 100k on the odometer! Around here you cant find one with less then 200k and ragged out! We love Toyota in these woods!
That first gen is gorgeous that was my very first pick up I ever had and it was the best pick-up I ever had miss her to this day mine was the same color too
I remember seeing this truck in action when I was 15. I’m 40 now and it’s cleaner and a bit meaner looking.
Same. Except I'm 38 lol
When I need a smile on my face I watch this video
Sick truck
I don't even crawl, but that's pretty neat. Need that for my 1977 chevy full time four wheel drive.
Talk about hill start assist or clutch start assist.
The thing just climbs that slope on idle, damn.
That's awesome!!
Keeping it real !
Awesome video. One thing i love about toyotas, (at least my 2013 Taco), it has a button that lets you crank it without pushing in the clutch, in case it wont start you can crank it off to the side of the trail/road.
Is that factory never saw that function
clutch start cancel
Impressive!
Love it
I love that truck.
My dream truck
Amazing
The clutch saver.
working my ass off to put my duals in for the snow right now
Awesome
That was crazy
This hurts to watch as my starter is blown currently😂
Abandoned Night you own an xj too...? Shits rough just spent my whole paycheck to fix the beast... (still better and cooler than any cum cum)
Haha my ol vw diesel crapped out and I went about 5-600 feet on the starter ...got it up in 2nd gear🤣🤣🤣
Got me off the road , I fixed it and figured it wasn't gonna start but it did.
😌
Im drooling over here
Clicked cause the first gear reduction video was cool......
1000:1 reduction ?
Still processing that .....👍
Unimogs with the Cascade transfer box have a ratio in the region of 4500 to1!!!!!!!
Hey, great vid. How are you able to start in gear without a clutch? How is the engine not stalling?
Would it be possible to use this setup on a 3rd gen 4runner v6 auto?
Hello
Just awesome...
Do you have it for 1978 BJ40 please?
Thank you
Im wondering what sort of hp and torque these units can take
I want one for my Nissan Titan... what's a setup like this run? Can I install myself?
Would this work for the current gen Toyota Taco?
What's the final crawl ratio with the ultimate Marlin low range?
I've always thought manuals would suck on the trail due to stalling all the time, but this looks like it would make having a manual not suck!
Hello Michael and thank you for the question. When you understand that exactly no good Toyota automatics were available at the time Marlin founded the hobby of Rock Crawling in 1994, 100% of the first-ever Rock Crawling vehicles on the trails were manual. In fact, we did not manufacture the world's first Automatic Rock Crawler until the early 2000s (this first automatic test vehicle was a white 3.0-liter 2nd gen Toyota 4Runner). So for nearly the first decade after we created Rock Crawling, precisely zero were automatics. Marlin Crawler without dispute built the industry of Rock Crawling with manual transmission-equipped Toyota trucks.
It isn't that Autos are not good for Rock Crawling, but rather the Toyota trucks of the era when we started Rock Crawling were faaar more rugged and less civilized than they are today. We would argue that if it wasn't for Toyota's weak (in the literal sense) marketing of sand (yuck) and mud (yuck) use with only featuring automatic trucks then we would have more manual-equipped modern trucks off-road. Case in point with BigMike's new 3rd gen Tacoma: It took him 8-dealerships, 261-days, and a flight to Texas all because he ordered a new manual transmission Tacoma. Feel free to read his full "Mega post" struggle with Toyota at the 16th reply of his build thread here: www.marlincrawler.com/bm2
TL;DR Marlin founded Rock Crawling with manual transmissions, and automatics only rose to popularity because of Toyota's relentless push to encourage the use of them here in America.
I use my rig as a DD so I'm enjoying the automatic of the 3rd gen 4runner :D
MarlinCrawlerMedia Thanks for the great explanation. I have a background with domestic 4x4s, and all have been autos. Good point about early Toys not having a suitable auto. I base my opinion of them on seeing (mainly Jeeps) in person and in videos bouncing and crashing over things. Seems like the pattern is bounce, stall, roll back, repeat. Doesn't look fun, and looks very hard on equipment, especially when frustration kicks in and more skinny pedal is applied. I'm sure most of the ones I've seen have been horribly undergeared, with questionable drivers. I'm a lowsy stick driver, and I bet your gearbox would make even ME look good!
All your view points and opinions are spot-on. Given two vehicles with the same final drive ratio, one auto one manual, it will be more difficult on both the driver and the vehicle for the manual. Gearing makes all the difference and allows for more torque at a smooth and quiet idle. If you have already, then please check out our gear ratio comparison video with clutch and brake foot camera view:
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All Toyota knew for a long time we're manuals. When they switched over to auto the struggle was real. Overheating issues and fluid breakdown issues. Yes it also comes down to maintenance but all Toyota knew and built we're manuals at the time. The clutch start cancel was pretty badass. It made life easier. I used to avoid auto Toyotas but they have come a long way and all is good now. Keep your fluid cool and clean.
Which one is better for toyota land cruiser serie 80? Atlas case 4 spped or marlin crawler?
Does the car in this video use front and rear air lockers?
What about oil pickup? Is it OK to have the engine running at 45 degrees for so long?
It wouldn't be uncommon for it to have a dry sump oil system. It's a system that doesnt have an oil pan, but rather an entire bled off oil system with no air in it. So it doesn't matter the angle, g force etc. Everything will always be lubricated.
Toyotas dont need oil to run trust me ive owned 30 of those lil guys
@@rustedratchetgarage6788 Maybe you wouldn't need so many if you put oil in them lol
Baffles in the pan
@@robwiljas Lol...
Isn't this that obstacle that red ZJ fell backwards onto its roof from years ago?
2:50 What is wrong with the leaf spring in the back?
do they make that for lada niva ?
Hecc I'm subscribing!
i have no clue what i just saw but i think its impressive lol
Is this video the reason for back orders!?
Where has this been all my life
What Toyota model is that?
That’s pretty badass, do y’all make anything for xj cherokees?
Ax15 trans is just like the toyota w58 in the toys with a jeep bellhousing toy clutch plate you could swap over to a w58 then buy toy cases also search ax15 to toy case or if you want to there are others who make adaptors to double your np231 or np241 case in your jeep if you have a 4.7 your gonna have to ditch it no manual options easily available unless you luck out finding a Ram 4.7 5spd 4wd to swap in but then your stuck witha 4.7 👎if you have awd ditch it too you
Edit lol just read xj so you dont have a 4.7 its early im tired but everthing else is good info 😂
Damn!
I want that truck
What carburetor is this
Mike Montrie tacoma 3rz 2.7l engine if im not mistaken. Fuel injected and not carbureted.
Was that rear left leaf spring broken?
i think the springs are designed for extreme wheel travel. most of the pack can drop, while a single, lighter leaf connects the axle to the truck. never seen one like it, but it makes sense when you think about it.
Do you have a build page of that truck?
Thank you for your comment. Marlin has been modifying and wheeling The Crawler Truck since 1983 so there isn’t a build thread for it. We do have info about how it changed the way people go off-roading on our About Us page found here: www.marlincrawler.com/about Thanks!
I want one.
What width are those iroks ?
Rated as 12.5”
I don't understand how the starter motor can make the vehicle move forward? How does that happen?
Thank you for the comment. While manual transmission vehicles come equipped with a Clutch Start Cancel button, many of us bypass this entirely so we can always start the vehicle in gear regardless of the circumstance. Such is the case with The Crawler Truck. It could be cranked in reverse or even in 5th gear, for example, however without the torque multiplication of our Crawler products it would never have enough torque to overcome the weight of the vehicle.
@@MarlinCrawlerMedia thank you for the explanation
Anyone else notice the broken rear leaf spring
So this started to get a better high and low range, correct.. I'm guessing that 4.11 in high and 5.38 in low..
This is an additional gear for your transfer case, and High range is 1.00:1 and Low range is available in either 2.28:1 or 4.70:1 ratios 👍🏼 Depending on gear choice, our Dual Case setup turns your complete t/case into a 4-speed with selectable ratios 1.00:1, 2.28:1, 4.70:1, and 10.72:1 Low ranges.
@@MarlinCrawlerMedia do you like it?
this has to be bad for the flywheel teeth right?
Not really .. the starter was engaging smoothly. .. it's not the greatest thing on the starter itself though..
“Fired right up with no problem” that starter was begging you to stop
In the face of toyota's crawl control! 😎
0:45 -- front locker not working.
So what is the difference between the regular dual and the ultimate?
Regular duals is 2.28x2.28. Dual Ultimate is 2.28x4.70.
Additional info here: www.marlincrawler.com/java/ultimate.html
K series starter has left the chat
128% less resistance?? So not only a macine that can spin infinitely but also can produce that 28% additional power from the now -28% resistance, thus breaking the conservation of energy law
Yeah a better way of typing that would be 128 times less resistance like you said
Anyone else see his leaf separating from the leaf pack?? Lmao wtf
Driver's rear? Isn't that the Helper spring??
got all the gear reduction but no damn front lockers...
Has e-locker
@@rustedratchetgarage6788 i saw lol, skipped the vid but went back and saw it when u pointed it out, thnx
Poor clutch jeez
"With the super super super super super low gear reduction, I can climb vertical rock faces while parked and the engine is off! Try that, Jeep fans!"
I feel bad for the starter.
The irony is that this type of off roading is endemic to the Sierra Nevada National Forest. Despite the fact that the general population believes that stickers generate horsepower, I have in my travels seen a sticker that seems to produce tourqe reduction. Also on a side note the old Mojave horsepower trick works here too. It can however wreck your lid.
My xj has a vacuum leak and at the moment I can idle to 40 mph I bet she’d pop right up that lil hill 🙃😂 thing makes me broke cus I’m always repairing it but there ain’t nothing more fun than taking our toys off-road these pavement princesses out here are weak..
Fix the vaccum leak, i got a friend of mine who vapes to blow a fat cloud into a vacuum line and where it came out was the leak, or you can pressurize the system with something and use your fingers to feel for air or a hose held up to your ear to listen for leaks etc
16driver16 I fixed it a while ago but thanks
Put a hitch on the EARTH and it will spin it.
That will fuck your starter motor
Someone sell me a good Toyota in Florida!!!!!!??! 🙏
No hills in Florida 🤣🤣🤣
There is many hills lol just NO mountains
king fyi Florida is the flattest State! Good trivia....
Twobarpsi your face is the flattest state
Skott I found one but I had to go a little bit newer a 97 Tacoma 4x4 3.4L no rust anywhere
Its not needed people dont go four wheeling on there starter motor a factory 4 low range on a Toyota is plenty. And cheaper. ...
I think you missed the point
@@jets8991 I didn't miss nothing I think they're trying to sell a expensive transfer case that you don't need you can just switch your ring and pinion gear for a few hundred dollars if need be
@@jets8991 he definitely missed it
@@keithmckenzie1569 I get your point but did you see when he had it in factory 4 lo? I'm sure you could gear pretty low but that would make it completely useless on any sort of public road as you would be at ridiculous rpms just doing 55. They're system is a 1:1 ratio when disengaged and can do freeway speeds at regular rpms. Also with they're gearing you could probabaly drive that thing up the same hill using a drill as a motor
@@jets8991 i understand what you say.....but all 4wd. Trucks from the factory have a 4 low range. That can do steep hills and rocks . .low range locked differential and big Wheels. Thats all you need people have been doing this for 60 years. No need to buy. What this guy is to sell thats my opion.
painful to watch!!!!
Well i want one of those now ! 🤑