i thought she was the most annoying obnoxious character on the show. mike and gloria are annoying too though. i mainly watched the show to see archie, barnie, kelsy, and the lodge brothers.
He wasnt fat though. She did get very fat. She really let herself go. Its amazing to see how big she got. She was once a very fit sexy woman. Thats sad when that happens.
I've always loved this episode. The way Archie stood up for Mike and how he talked to his "little goil" blew my mind at the time! I may have been just in my late teens, but it's always left an impact on me somehow. I hoped they would have stayed together though!
I like to pretend the spinoff never happened, and that Mike and Gloria saved their marriage. In the spinoff, Mike left Gloria and Joey to go to a commune with one of his students. Along with Edith dying. Two reasons I didn’t care for the spinoff.
She cheated on him. How was he evil? She's the sl*t who went outside of her marriage and did it with another man. Archie sided with the Meathead by the way in this episode and he said mike was too good for gloria. Maybe you didnt see that part?
I can kind of see where Mike is coming from here because he spent those 5 years being called "Meathead" and "Dumb Polack" by Archie. That hardly constitutes happiness. Also I read that Sally Struthers who plays Gloria was pregnant when this was filmed.
But he thanked Archie for letting him live at the house while he was in school and for being "like a father" to him. (He did this before moving away). And, in the end, it was Mike who left Gloria to hook up with one of his students.
I watched this episode when it first aired. This snippet of the episode purposely doesn't reveal the reason for the expending divorce. After Mike graduated, he took a position as an associate professor at a college in California. Gloria returned to college to finish her degree, where SHE got into AN AFFAIR with ANOTHER PROFESSOR! They were hiding the upcoming divorce from Archie and Edith, but Edith told Archie of the upcoming divorce, whereby Achie confronts Mike and blames him. MIKE blurts out the REAL REASON, That CLORIA had A LONG GOING AFFAIR with another professor, and the marriage was over. Achie gets angry thinking Mike is lying, not "his little girl," then GLORIA ADMITS thruth to her parents that she indeed committed adultery multiple times with the other man. Achie never forgives Gloria?
I know this is meant for a comedy, but they could’ve slept in the same bed and not touched each other. I’m sure they did that many times before they separated.🤔
Personally, I thought it was a crummy think that the writers did to separate the Stivics, after all of the growth that they had gone through in the previous episodes. Mike really seemed to love his son Joey, and even Mike and Archie had come to like each other in spite of their differences. It didn’t really make sense that Mike would throw away a good family just to join a hippie commune. Of course it was wrong for Gloria to commit adultery too. I just wish they could have stayed together.
I agree, Mike and Gloria went through a lot together in those Bunker home days, but they always seemed to sincerely love each other and even after the fights and snide remarks they always stayed together… what was so wrong in the writers keeping them a couple in love, …guess it’s not as much of a story line if everyone is happy and together.
@@douggrey6253 that’s strange, I thought most people would prefer a happy ending. Especially since I thought the message of All in the Family was that people can always work through their differences. Plus the spin off about Gloria living and raising Joey on her own didn’t last very long, so I assumed that it was not very popular and got poor ratings.
@@nancyhey1012 Great point, the spin off Gloria which featured her working for a veterinarian (Burgess Meredith) maybe lasted one season…she went back home after the storyline had Mike leaving her and Joey for a student and living in a commune…Which I thought was a bit much…
Season nine was not needed. Norman Lear checked out after season eight. He wanted to end the show. He made sense because it is not All in the Family without Mike and Gloria as regulars. As a little kid, I loved watching this show with my Dad and younger sister. Sometimes, my Uncle who lived with us joined us. Mom was a nurse and worked the evening shift. I still remember the newspaper clip announcing the departure of Rob Reiner and Sally Struthers. I was disappointed. The show was still good despite no longer having the edge of the first five seasons. Like many viewers, I was not ready to say goodbye in the spring of 1978. All in the Family is the greatest sitcom in the history of television. CBS should have understood this and worked with Lear and the cast to keep everyone in place for the ninth season. It would have been worth the money to keep the cast together. This show deserved a great send-off. Instead, Mike and Gloria divorced, and Edith died. Archie continued alone with a new series that became progressively more and more mediocre until it was canceled in 1983. Archie should not have bought the bar. It was a stretch that he could manage a bar and restaurant. As much as I adore Danielle Brisebois, we are the same age, the idea that Archie would adopt let alone raise a Jewish child on his own is ridiculous. In season four, episode eight, Edith explains to Mike that Archie is jealous of Mike. She tells Mike that Archie will never be more than a foreman at a blue-collar job. He had to quit high school and could not complete a college education like Mike who will have more opportunities. This is Archie's character. They changed him too much in season nine and the Archie Bunker's Place spin-off. That was a disservice to the character and something that Norman Lear had nothing to do with.
This video clip never gets to the main and most dramatic part of what happened. It should have been at least titled part 1 and had part 2 queued up to see why.
As great as it was to see the Stivics again, I didn’t care for this episode. First of all, Gloria never should have allowed this visit. All she had to say was, “Ma, Michael and I are having some problems and it’s not a good time to visit right now.” Second, neither Mike nor Gloria need to answer to Archie at this point. Finally, I thought that the Christmas Day reconciliation was forced and unrealistic. Couples don’t reconcile just because their mother/mother-in-law asks them if they still love each other. I know they needed some big dramatic reason to power the hour-long episode. But the resolution felt too pat. Didn’t they do the same story in “A Very Brady Christmas” with an equally unrealistic resolution?
As many people want to blame Gloria-and what she did was wrong-it’s always important to remember that 99% of the time it takes two to tangle. I remember watching this, and there were plenty of things Michael did that weren’t right either. Gloria made the wrong choice of committing adultery, but Michael was not 100% innocent by any means as he let his job control his life a lot.
5 years? Do you mean... 10 years they did an 2 pilots called "Justice for All" released in 1968 & "These Was the Days" released in 1969 done by 2 actresses plays Gloria & 2 actors plays Richard (Later to be Mike in 1970*) (1968 & 1969) *Copyright said 1970 on the 1st episode.
If you ask me, the conflict between Mike and Gloria in this episode tends to be a reflection of the martial tensions Rob Reiner was facing between him and then-wife Penny Marshall at the time: the latter was still at the top of her game with "Laverne and Shirley", whilst the former had a hard time finding new acting work after "All in the Family".
Why did they have to Ruin All in The Family by Trashing everything the show tried to stand for by so Violently killing the series with Such Negativity!!!!!!
Despite being somewhat center-left myself, Mike was such an insufferable character throughout most of the show. Dude literally exploits his wife and her family for money/the opportunity to not work whatsoever and when he finally gets his desired career, he ultimately abandons his wife. I will appreciate the fact that Norman Leer made the show quite realistic in terms of how a relationship like this with a self-important, egotistical person like Meathead would ultimately unfold.
Edith Bunker was such a loving and understanding person. She was really an angel on the show
i thought she was the most annoying obnoxious character on the show. mike and gloria are annoying too though. i mainly watched the show to see archie, barnie, kelsy, and the lodge brothers.
@@user-bf8ki9tc8j Most of America would disagree
If ever there was a Saint on Television it was Edith Bunker
I loved her. RIP Ms. Jean.
and rob reiner is a liberal & atheist in real life
Absolutely 💯
Mike: You got fat.
This from a man who goes grocery shopping in her father's fridge every hour...
lol yep, and CLEARLY got fatter during the length of the series! No doubt about it, lol
Had he only known what was coming a few years later.
He wasnt fat though. She did get very fat. She really let herself go. Its amazing to see how big she got. She was once a very fit sexy woman. Thats sad when that happens.
@@scottg9855 What happened a few years later? She became a huge blimp? LOL
When Archie found out it was Gloria having the affair, he said to Mike _I never thought i would ever say this, but you are too good for her.
I've always loved this episode. The way Archie stood up for Mike and how he talked to his "little goil" blew my mind at the time! I may have been just in my late teens, but it's always left an impact on me somehow. I hoped they would have stayed together though!
I like to pretend the spinoff never happened, and that Mike and Gloria saved their marriage.
In the spinoff, Mike left Gloria and Joey to go to a commune with one of his students. Along with Edith dying. Two reasons I didn’t care for the spinoff.
Same. That part where Archie says he thinks Gloria's too good for Mike always makes me emotional.
@@StealthMode3924 Same here! I've seen the spinoff, Archie with the bar, and then Gloria, which lasted only a season. Hated the Gloria one.
@@pisto30 I was not prepared for that, at all!!
"Michael, you're an ass." *Gloria points her ass at Mike*
“He hurt me so!”
“How?!”
“I hit him!”
“You hit Mike?”
“With my hand!”
Lol
The way she says “ass” the last time always cracks me up! 😂. Then flops over on the stool. 😆. And the raspberries she blew!
It hurt me when Mike said "Those were the worst five years of my life. And Bingo".😢
I can understand it because he was living with Archie. Still, he shouldn't have made the connection to his marriage.
It’s so brutal to see Mike act that way .
@@MidnightMrSukiiMike was always a jerk
The worst five years of his life living off Archie
@@sha11235 I'm sure Archie felt the same way himself.
Rob Reiner didn’t have to act or pretend in this show.
Brilliant actors always!!
All in the Family and Sanford and Son 😂 Was the Funniest Sitcoms ever
Don't forget "The Jeffersons".
In my opinion, this was Jean Stapleton's best acting on "All in the Family".
You know the old saying Gloria - "You can lose FAT, but you can't lose UGLY!"
Sally struthers was not ugly. Cmon man
@louisrauzi3872 I know. Reread what I wrote!!!! Geez!!!!
In the thumbnail, Mike looks like Andy Kaufman playing Latka on Taxi.
This episode aired on December 17, 1978 on CBS, opposite of "The Winds Of Kitty Hawk" and "Battlestar: Galactica".
Thanks
Always Knew Meathead was evil.
Archie sure knew it 💯💯
She cheated on him. How was he evil? She's the sl*t who went outside of her marriage and did it with another man. Archie sided with the Meathead by the way in this episode and he said mike was too good for gloria. Maybe you didnt see that part?
No problem living five year's with free room and board while you studied for your degree. 🙄
Although this was a very sad and serious scene, Gloria made the chair scene so funny.
My favorite show of all time 😂❤❤❤
This episode broke my heart.❤
Second time Gloria slapped Mike.
He had it coming
I can kind of see where Mike is coming from here because he spent those 5 years being called "Meathead" and "Dumb Polack" by Archie. That hardly constitutes happiness. Also I read that Sally Struthers who plays Gloria was pregnant when this was filmed.
Had he not been freeloading and always looking for fights he would been called "Meathead" and "Dumb Polack" a lot less.
Well, lol that explains the "fat".
But he thanked Archie for letting him live at the house while he was in school and for being "like a father" to him. (He did this before moving away). And, in the end, it was Mike who left Gloria to hook up with one of his students.
It should have been canceled at the end of season 8, because it wasn't as good afterwards.
Hes still a meathead and deserves everybit of that ridicule - have you not seen his twitter account - he is EXACTLY the same as the character.
Mike had that slap coming
He sure did. Gloria got him good.👋🏽💥
It was building up for 9 years
Served the Meathead right 👋. Gloria really got him good 💥
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I watched this episode when it first aired. This snippet of the episode purposely doesn't reveal the reason for the expending divorce. After Mike graduated, he took a position as an associate professor at a college in California. Gloria returned to college to finish her degree, where SHE got into AN AFFAIR with ANOTHER PROFESSOR! They were hiding the upcoming divorce from Archie and Edith, but Edith told Archie of the upcoming divorce, whereby Achie confronts Mike and blames him. MIKE blurts out the REAL REASON, That CLORIA had A LONG GOING AFFAIR with another professor, and the marriage was over. Achie gets angry thinking Mike is lying, not "his little girl," then GLORIA ADMITS thruth to her parents that she indeed committed adultery multiple times with the other man. Achie never forgives Gloria?
Archie not Achie
I was 7 years old and I watched it too. All in The Family was always watched in my home growing up.
I know this is meant for a comedy, but they could’ve slept in the same bed and not touched each other. I’m sure they did that many times before they separated.🤔
She called him a Ass
Congratulations, you're not deaf
Gloria slap meat head quite a few times
I've Always Loved Sally Struthers Gloria Bunker
Personally, I thought it was a crummy think that the writers did to separate the Stivics, after all of the growth that they had gone through in the previous episodes. Mike really seemed to love his son Joey, and even Mike and Archie had come to like each other in spite of their differences. It didn’t really make sense that Mike would throw away a good family just to join a hippie commune. Of course it was wrong for Gloria to commit adultery too. I just wish they could have stayed together.
I agree, Mike and Gloria went through a lot together in those Bunker home days, but they always seemed to sincerely love each other and even after the fights and snide remarks they always stayed together… what was so wrong in the writers keeping them a couple in love, …guess it’s not as much of a story line if everyone is happy and together.
@@douggrey6253 that’s strange, I thought most people would prefer a happy ending. Especially since I thought the message of All in the Family was that people can always work through their differences. Plus the spin off about Gloria living and raising Joey on her own didn’t last very long, so I assumed that it was not very popular and got poor ratings.
@@nancyhey1012 Great point, the spin off Gloria which featured her working for a veterinarian (Burgess Meredith) maybe lasted one season…she went back home after the storyline had Mike leaving her and Joey for a student and living in a commune…Which I thought was a bit much…
@@douggrey6253 Yes, it never made sense to me. It was out of character for Mike to do that.
The writing on that show wasn't the best, either.@@nancyhey1012
Season nine was not needed. Norman Lear checked out after season eight. He wanted to end the show. He made sense because it is not All in the Family without Mike and Gloria as regulars. As a little kid, I loved watching this show with my Dad and younger sister. Sometimes, my Uncle who lived with us joined us. Mom was a nurse and worked the evening shift. I still remember the newspaper clip announcing the departure of Rob Reiner and Sally Struthers. I was disappointed. The show was still good despite no longer having the edge of the first five seasons. Like many viewers, I was not ready to say goodbye in the spring of 1978.
All in the Family is the greatest sitcom in the history of television. CBS should have understood this and worked with Lear and the cast to keep everyone in place for the ninth season. It would have been worth the money to keep the cast together. This show deserved a great send-off. Instead, Mike and Gloria divorced, and Edith died. Archie continued alone with a new series that became progressively more and more mediocre until it was canceled in 1983.
Archie should not have bought the bar. It was a stretch that he could manage a bar and restaurant. As much as I adore Danielle Brisebois, we are the same age, the idea that Archie would adopt let alone raise a Jewish child on his own is ridiculous. In season four, episode eight, Edith explains to Mike that Archie is jealous of Mike. She tells Mike that Archie will never be more than a foreman at a blue-collar job. He had to quit high school and could not complete a college education like Mike who will have more opportunities. This is Archie's character. They changed him too much in season nine and the Archie Bunker's Place spin-off. That was a disservice to the character and something that Norman Lear had nothing to do with.
This video clip never gets to the main and most dramatic part of what happened. It should have been at least titled part 1 and had part 2 queued up to see why.
My sister & I quote 1:20 all the time!!!
Gloria it’s 5 o’clock in the morning. I slept half the night in that chair Mike see and you said you couldn’t do it😆
meat head was mean and rude
The Fixx…Secret Separation.
Haha !! That’s what I immediately thought of too!! I am a HUGE Fixx fan 😊
As great as it was to see the Stivics again, I didn’t care for this episode. First of all, Gloria never should have allowed this visit. All she had to say was, “Ma, Michael and I are having some problems and it’s not a good time to visit right now.” Second, neither Mike nor Gloria need to answer to Archie at this point. Finally, I thought that the Christmas Day reconciliation was forced and unrealistic. Couples don’t reconcile just because their mother/mother-in-law asks them if they still love each other.
I know they needed some big dramatic reason to power the hour-long episode. But the resolution felt too pat. Didn’t they do the same story in “A Very Brady Christmas” with an equally unrealistic resolution?
As many people want to blame Gloria-and what she did was wrong-it’s always important to remember that 99% of the time it takes two to tangle.
I remember watching this, and there were plenty of things Michael did that weren’t right either. Gloria made the wrong choice of committing adultery, but Michael was not 100% innocent by any means as he let his job control his life a lot.
Tango, not tangle.
Classic
5 years? Do you mean... 10 years they did an 2 pilots called "Justice for All" released in 1968 & "These Was the Days" released in 1969 done by 2 actresses plays Gloria & 2 actors plays Richard (Later to be Mike in 1970*) (1968 & 1969) *Copyright said 1970 on the 1st episode.
Amazing how Riner turned out worse than Meathead in real life 😂😂😂
He turned out better actually. You probably think that Trump is a saint. How delusional.
I was sad when Mike and Gloria were having problems and i do not want to think of them being separate : (
If you ask me, the conflict between Mike and Gloria in this episode tends to be a reflection of the martial tensions Rob Reiner was facing between him and then-wife Penny Marshall at the time: the latter was still at the top of her game with "Laverne and Shirley", whilst the former had a hard time finding new acting work after "All in the Family".
😢😢😂😢😢😢😅😅😂😂
Why did they have to Ruin All in The Family by Trashing everything the show tried to stand for by so Violently killing the series with Such Negativity!!!!!!
It was positive ? Have you ever watched the show
It was his job
Her daddy tried to warn her.
sad how they ended, very very sad
2:17 Gloria give Meathead the full dose and then some.
Archie was right about meathead all along!
Despite being somewhat center-left myself, Mike was such an insufferable character throughout most of the show. Dude literally exploits his wife and her family for money/the opportunity to not work whatsoever and when he finally gets his desired career, he ultimately abandons his wife. I will appreciate the fact that Norman Leer made the show quite realistic in terms of how a relationship like this with a self-important, egotistical person like Meathead would ultimately unfold.
Dude. Mike was mean.
For someone who had been orphaned as a kid and who was so politically liberal, wow, he had a sense of entitlement!
He was but also he was the one who was cheated on. I don't know if I'd be nice either.
@pisto30 , true of course later (off screen) he was the one who left Gloria for a student? If I remember correctly. (UA-cam videos like this)
Mike was always mean to Gloria and Archie. The only one he was never mean to, and I truly believe he loved, was Edith. He had great affection for her.
2:36 These days, this would be considered fat shaming.
I never liked Mike’s character and I always thought their marriage would end. Yes, he was an aaaass! What a creep.
Mike is such crappy person. It was good that she cheated him.
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I hated this episode. It came off SO mean spirited. I REALLY wished the show ended at the Eighth season...