How is Brian Griffin an Atheist?! (Family Guy Video Essay)
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
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My theory is that he says he doesn’t believe in god because he hates the idea that there are people more important than him
Justin roiland be like:
@@greygaston1263Who is that?
I think that's common among politicians and celebrities.
@@K-dawg26 I think he was the VA of Rick Sanchez, or Rick & Morty.
@@K-dawg26 the original Va for Rick and Morty.
27:33 to be fair, I think this is just a "Chris is an idiot" joke
The real reason Stevie kills Denise Crosby is because she played Lieutenant Natasha Yar, who (spoilers) dies in season 1. It’s just a happy coincidence that they’re “related.”
Edit: Also, the reason you can’t bowl in street shoes is twofold. First, they don’t want you scuffing up their floors. Second, it’s a safety concern. Bowling shoes have smooth undersides, which can easily slide across the treated floor. Your street shoes will get stuck to the floor, causing you to get stuck and fall. It seems counterintuitive, but you want less traction so you won’t fall.
Your name's Kitty Monk.
That's, like, the opposite of an atheist dog.
I giggled.
You win the internet today
👏😂
Now i need a discussion between this two. Like a Bryan Quagmire talnk.
The irony that she's agnostic 😅
He's her mortal enemy
@@VersieKilgannon holy reddit
"Jesus lived with us for like a week. What else do you need?" Lois herself said Brian has to be on the "unpopular"/"out" team contrary to whatever is popular or accepted. It seems that he's simply atheist because the Griffins identify (ocassionally) as religious.
Mandy at first didnt believe in Santa Claus until she saw Mrs Claus , so Brain should too with legit proof
I've heard of people claiming to be atheists just because their family is religious.
GREAT KITTY MONK FAMILY GUY HOW BRIAN GRIFFIN AN ATHEIST
It's funny how even when they see a religious figure of ANY kind standing before them, Atheists stick with their "beliefs"
That sounds about right.
Brian is Seth's fursona.
Now I can't get the mental image of a Great Dane crooning "Strangers in the Night" out of my head.
Fureal
Oh my God, you’re right
that is hilarious I never thought of it that way
That's actually hilarious
Next generation is a straight up sequel. It takes place 95 years after the original series in the original timeline.
I came here to say essentially the same thing
Gene Roddenberry was involved in some of the earlier scripts but most of the seasons were done by different writing team and Gene's lawyer took advantage of his failing health condition to sabotage a lot progressive scripts citing that it wasn't Gean's vision.
@@theakkiqueen4655 nerd alert!
@@andrewprobst846 Yeah. I didn't see anyone else do it for some reason.
you could even say it takes place in the... generation... after the previous one
I see it more as just Brian trying to make himself look smart and acknowledging God existing in the show would clash with his POV.
That would just make him more smug, self-righteous and pretentious than he already is.
@@mechajay3358 Of course. People like Brian hate to be proven wrong in their beliefs.
No. It's just a comedy doing a common comedy thing of occasionally bringing in supernatural elements, but ignoring them in future episodes.
I mean you do know that this show had both jesus and god argue in favor of atheism right?
On top of that brian and stewie created the universe. Technically making him correct.
Course no one ever takes those scenes seriously for the same reason you shouldn't be taken the religion scenes seriously. It aint that deep
@@1slayer959 theists can’t think that good man. You gotta go easy on them
@@robbyrobais that a way to jab at him for not being a theist?
Kitty: im agnostic
Me: oh god shes one of the Dr. Pepper people
No it’s ok I actually love Dr Pepper and I got into it because of the show!
@@KittyMonk I used to hate it, just to be different from my brother. Now I'm into it
I believe Dr. Pepper is not actually a doctor.
@@schwarzerritter5724I believe Doctor Pepper is a shoe polish.
I don't get it.
It's important to remember there is a difference between atheist (there is no god), agnostic (I don't know if there are gods and I pay them no mind) and maltheist (God is bad)
It doesn't make sense for Brian to be any of these since he's not only met God and Jesus in person he's also been to Heaven before.
It’s not that he doesn’t believe in God. It’s that he hates to see people hating and killing each other over their own interpretation of what they’re not smart enough to understand.
I think it's more he doesn't believe *religiously* in God, but by the end definitely still knows he's there. He sees him like an unreliable boss or something.
In my life, I've gone from Christianity, to exploring Muslim but still Christian, to atheist, borderline malthiest, to agnostic. Yet, it's still hard to tell people the difference between the "thiests" because nobody wants to hear it. It's either you believe or you don't.
No, your terminology isn't right, almost all atheists are agnostic atheists.
Stop promoting terrible stereotypes like Family Guy.
Peter became death for a little after breaching Norm McDonald’s leg, Jesus tried sleeping with Lois, and somehow Brian still doesn’t believe god exists in there universe?!?!
I miss Norm Macdonald, he voiced so many good characters 😂😢
He also talks and dates human women. I think God pretty much wants Brian to do whatever Brian wants
You can believe in Jesus without believing in God. There's plenty of atheists to think that Jesus was a really historical person, just not God in the flesh.
He's so disappointed. He's a dog who walks upright and is sentient. He believes in a God. The problem is it just likes to watch.
@@sardonicus1739 Perhaps
but if Jesus has shown up more than once on your front doorstep and verifies things as accurate, its kinda hard to deny it.
Like think what you want irl, but in the cartoon world of Family Guy, think its pretty clear God exists
At this point they use Brian's Atheism more as a joke than it being apart of his character. Cause how are you say you don't believe in a higher power when God and Jesus are basically apart of your world casts?
I mean Lois beds Jesus how could he ignore that?
@@TFoxhound Hey, maybe that's why he pretend they aren't real, cuz he mad he didn't get to bed Lois xD
Either he pulls am eric cartman self gaslight or seth just really wanted to piss on religions that episode
It's not like god or Jesus are very exemplary deities in the Family Guy universe. God is just kind of a dick.
@@adrianaslund8605 yeah but in family guy canon, HE EXISTS
...In the most obnoxious and toxic way he could represent us.
I'm one of those atheists who would never believe anyway.
The difference is I have to be skeptical because existence is virtually NOT worth it if Yahweh WAS real.
Brain is skeptical because he just doesn't want to scratch his overgrown ego.
To be fair, the variety of atheist is vast since atheism is only one belief on one particular issue.
@@8eyesI’m a Christian and I’m not gonna force my beliefs on anyone I just want to say ,blessings for you 🙏
@@8eyes
Not if he was as... human, specifically Biblical-era human, as the Bible makes him out to be. You'd think an all-powerful deity would be wiser than humans and have a better grasp of morality than humans, but both Testaments consistently attribute all-too-human flaws to him. It's as if he were some jerkass's Mary Sue self-insert in a fan fiction: He's pretty much all-powerful, unspeakably beautiful, and despite so much of what's written demonstrating the contrary, he's treated as infallible.
Don't forget Redditors
It doesn’t make any sense for Brian to still be an atheist even though he met Jesus.
And God as of the latest season finale.
@@TheCommenterDragon Speaking of which. When Brian and Stewie created a religion free timeline, Not only did it mean religion never existed but it also meant that Atheism never existed either therefore in a world without religion there was no need for Brian to be an atheist anymore.
that's like saying "hey, i got physical proof this religion is right. you gotta become part of it against your free will now."
Yeah Mandy didtn believe in Saint Nick but did once she saw his wife
It also doesn't make sense for Al Bundy to constantly wish for death despite knowing death is a real person that will call his bluff.
It's a comedy. Y'all are overthinking a plot point that all comedys use
5:37 okay TNG is a sequel series to the original. But it was made because of demand after the original series was canceled.
Stewie killing Denise Crosby is a direct reference to the Star Trek TNG episode "skin of evil"
Denise Crosby quit the show during season 1, so they unceremoniously killed off her character.
Hey, you answered a question that could be found with a Google search. Gold star for you...
... and one frowny face with arms crossed for Kitty Monk. Do as I say, not as I do, EHHH?!?!?! For. Shame.
Hope she doesn't see this so she doesn't get spoiled
Brain has done alot good with his atheism helping Lois realized she's been con by a fortune teller by just telling her what she wants to hear, told Peters abusive dad off over his beliefs and still defended him in peter's eyes as the man who raised him still making him a father to peter. Helping legalize gay marriage people who were minding their own business and wanted to be married. Helping explained other religions when stewie was afraid of dying, he didn't say one was better than the other they each have their own flaws, he didn't cram his beliefs when stewie asked him about life after death, he just say he believes in nothing after we die, he didn't yell at stewie, scare him into damnation or nothing, stewie in that episode represented all of us a sense of security of the most unsecure thing death, and Brian is just basic logic that doesn't make him bad for giving logic.
Yeah Brian has done alot of bad things even while using his ideology doing so. But the other characters done far worse with their ideas.
It's a shame they turned what was once a genuine character into a pretentious prick. He's still better than most of the characters in family guy.
Even though God and Jesus exist in FG, here's how Brian being an atheist could work. Instead of not believing in God, he could be an atheist because he chooses not to follow religion.
Similar to what Near says in Death Note. Even if a literal god presented what's 'right and wrong' to him, he'd still use his head to decide for himself what he thinks of it. Encouraging thinking for yourself and not blindly accepting what's put in front of you.
But instead of either of these reasons, Brian is an atheist because the writers need a mouthpiece.
Except theism is exclusively about belief
If you acknowledge a god exists you are no longer atheist
You are just nonreligious
Reasons why eastern media can turn the carp we make in the west into a masterpiece
That's Alatrism
I always thought the reason he is an atheist is because he's a contrarian and as soon as atheism is the most popular he'll just switch to whatever is least popular religion because he's so much smarter than the majority.
that wouldnt be an atheist then, that would just be non-religious. which i think makes more sense in the family guy universe where we’ve seen Jesus do miracles.
Discworld has the best Atheism: knowing the gods exist but refusing to acknowledge them so they don't get uppity.
Sound some Percy Jackson shenanigans, ngl..
Brian's atheism didn't change on account of meeting Jesus, because Family Guy has **NO** continuity.
Each episode is a fresh slate with no changes left over from the previous one with very very rare exceptions.
Brian has *died* numerous times.
F tier opinion. DO BETTER.
Atheism is not a Religion, that's just framing.
Ya, this is hard to explain to people. It's a lack of a religion. It's in the name lol.
Atheism is a religion in the same way "air" is a flavor
@@emilygordbort7300a religion is a group of people worshiping a super human or diety of some kind, theism is the belief in a god and Athiesm is the lack/no belief in a god, aithiesm can't be a religion beacuae its not a group of people worshipping a god-like being of some sorts
Edit: im sorry if i might have took this comment the wrong way
@jaynothinelse I agree with your solution but disagree with the process, there are religions that don't require a god or godlike figure
(Also you're good)
It's a religious belief. It isn't a religion. There is a difference
I’m not even an atheist and I would still told Meg the same things Brian told her just to get her off my back, I think it came from a place of anger, not logic.
I read this is Bolbi's voice
My theory is Brian only said he's an atheist because he just wants to have a different opinion than everyone else
Which is basically how it works in real life.
That and because it’s the “intellectual thing” he fakes being smart so why not deny something he has seen proof of
@@C0ldIron I think this is actually very damaging how shows do this. As people who actually are 'intellectuals' whatever that actually means, would accept with such obvious evidence (though of course after actually showing it's that because you know brains are complicated and do a lot of things so you would need some sort of proof it is both external and what it says, as just seeing God has many Naturalistic explanations with much less assumptions than a god assuming either a brain did something we know it does, or an all powerful all knowing being exists and personally was talking to you). And to place this group of people as just trying to seem smart and contrarian is silly, less that's the point of the character but that only works if the character is like that and isn't actually intelligent in that way.
@@Azrael__which of the several thousand denominations do you follow that was specifically created to be different?
@@Azrael__Not true at all 🤷
Brian not believing in god reminds of DND campaign I was part of for a session where on of my party members didn't believe in magic even tho ther was a wizard in our group. The guy just constantly came up with way around magic existing.
Faerun Atheists be like: Gods are a sham! I can get magic powers from making a deal with this shadow sword! Checkmate Clerics!
Cleric: Alright then, what gave the sword it’s powers?
I don't think he is an atheist but rather a maltheist. also, Chewbacca! :)
In a recent episode, Brian decided to go back in time to stop Christianity from happening because the girl that dumped him was christain. Going back to the present, Judaism is the dominant religion and he is okay with it even though *IT WORSHIPS THE SAME GOD* also God in this episode was pissed they stopped christianity from happening for some reason. In the end all is resolved by God beating Brian and Stewie up.
It’s either brain is just that stupid or the writers just don’t know the history of Judaism and christianity lmao
Star trek is a series of series each with fundamentally different cast and premises. The next generation is the second one to come out and plays 100 years after the original series, but contemporary to deep space 9 (which takes place on a space station instead of a ship) and voyager (which takes place in a seperate section of the galaxy cut off from any organisational ressources). There's also "enterprize" taking place at the dawn of interstellar travel, 100 years before the original, and a lot of more modern series I'm not gonna list individually because this comment is already getting long and these are the most well-known. And yes, Voyager, deep space 9 and next generation were produced in overlapping timeframes, so the casts cameo in each others series, with some characters switching permanently from Next generation to deep space 9
That was a well thought-out, concise summary and I really appreciate it 💜
As an atheist i hate brian. Its for more than the way he potrays athiests, but that is a big reason.
As another atheist I'm kinda mixed on Brian. He used to be one of my favs. But in that family they've kinda all become horrible so idk if he's just less annoying than the rest for me or not. Stewie is probably new fav but still not sure.
@KittyMonk Yes startrack next generation is basically the Ben 10 alien force equivalent of Star Trek
I like Ben 10
The next generation is a different crew later down in the timeline. Star Trek is like power rangers.
I was looking for a comment like this. Didn’t want to be that guy who repeated another comment.
Just to clarify and I mean this with no offense: Religion is not about being a good person; its about connecting with the divine. Depending on the theology of the religion being "good" is not even rewarded. When you say religion you actually think about Christianity and the concept of goodness you have is deeply connected with Christian goodness with some 18th enlightment philosophy on goodness. In Christiany God is the source of everything good so being a better person is the result of following His commandments; but this is not true (or at least exactly true) in other religions, if they have good teaching is because they are striving for the divine but is not the goal to be "good".
I agree there are plenty of religions which encourage atrocities for instance islam is famous for sexism
I think a better question would be, How and or why are any of the characters in Seth Macfarlane's cartoons Atheists?
Because from what I've noticed every main family in his cartoons have at least one atheist in the family. For the Griffin's it's Brian, For the Brown/Tubbs family it's Cleveland Jr. and for the Smith's it's apparently Steve. How and or why any of these characters became Atheists is anyone's guess.
Well, I doubt that Jesus comes down and talks to everyone, so it makes sense that characters don’t believe in religion
When did Steve become atheist? I don't remember or know that one. I only remember that American Dad episode where Stan becomes friends with a republican but tries to make him believe in God when he doesn't and in the end becomes a Satanist.
@@RingoandCarlin Steve displays Atheism in the episode "Daesong Heavy Industries" In that episode Steve questions the Bible. And I don't mean to put words in anyone's mouth by saying this but, Before you go asking "How does questioning the Bible make Steve an Atheist?" Let me tell you that since many people consider the bible as God's word a lot of people think that questioning the book is like questioning the existence of God.
@TheCommenterDragon well in my opinion there still is believing in God from different religions like Hindu, Buddhist and Islam. So yeah I would say not agreeing with the Bible doesn't make you an atheist, it just makes you believe in God in a different religion unless you don't believe in any religion at all or anything involving a God.
Wait, I thought Hayley’s the atheist of the Smith family.
Jesus literally exists there but Brian is still an atheist?
To be fair pretty much everyone with any education agrees that Jesus is/was real Christian, Atheist or otherwise, the disagreement comes on whether of not he is God.
@@thedukeofchutney468 OP meant Jesus appears multiple times in Family Guy
@@thedukeofchutney468thats not true search up mythicism
God and Jesus have been in the same room in multiple episodes, so how can Jesus be God?
It's a fictional cartoon, so it still isn't proof of anything in reality.
@@danteeightsix9069Bruh it’s family guy & just like u said it’s just a cartoon… According to the historical document of the gospel’s, jesus christ is God in human form.
If Brian managed to overthrow God just to prove a point, he'd become the God of Atheism. Which would cause the universe to collapse in on itself because Brian becoming the new God would be redundant. Inadvertently killing all known life, including himself.
I feel like anyone who goes after agnostic atheist and says it's fake only wants us to believe in a religion.
Well I think the real reason why Brian became an atheist is because the Christians in this show have done a lot of very terrible stuff. Like the episode where they supported Mayor West’s ban on gay marriage. The episode where the whole town chased the Griffins out of town because they thought Stewie was possessed when all he did was vomit red wine. The episode where the Opal Ring Crusade made up lies to the students of James Wood High into believing that Sex was wrong, and they basically kicked Lois out of the school for teaching teenagers about condoms. And let’s not forget the episode where Lois was ostracized by the town for being a porn star. I don’t have any problems with porn stars. It’s not that Brian doesn’t believe in God, more like didn’t like how the Christians have acted. Remember what he said to Meg in that he just hates to see people hating and killing each other over their own interpretation of what they’re not smart enough to understand.
That makes sense for me
The town of quahog are full of idiots
Very good points. I wish the show did a better job calling back to past experiences of the characters.
The Christians in the show may have done some horrible stuff but Brian's no stranger to being a major asshole either
Actually the reveal that Lois was a pornstar aired long after Brian was revealed to be an atheist.
Wasn't Meg already in a cult?
In the 3rd episode of season 1
the cult died by poisoned punch and the leader was killed by stewie
Awfull thing, Mila kunich (meg voice) supported danny" the rape scientologist" masterson (actor o 70s show) after his convicion.
@@Lorre982 Yep. Despite being a supposed feminist and ironically, running an anti-human trafficking charity with her husband Ashton Kutcher. She knew better and I lost all respect for her.
Brian Griffin is Seth McFarlane's fursona. Prove me wrong
If it's a fursona, why does he have more human characters of him than just one furry character?
As an Atheist myself, Brian almost feels offensive to me!
Yeah, heck there is a way to be a atheist in a world of proven gods, you know god is real, don't mean you gotta worship god.
@@bjam89 exactly, good Point👍
Agreed, just because you believe someone exists doesn't mean you have to believe in them as a person.
In many ways, I'd say religious belief is more about that philosophical and moral reasoning when you really get into it with people.
I’m not even an atheist and I would have told Meg the same things just to get her off my back, she was being unbearable to Brian
For many atheists Brian is offensive. For many people, they just flat out don't believe that there is a God. But man is Brian Griffin a strawman
How has Patrick Stewart not made a guest appearance on the Orville yet?
Wasn’t the Orville cancelled? I honestly don’t know
@@crimsonmaelstrom573 My grandfather's rewatched Orville very recently and I think that Hulu picked it up for at least one more season subtitled New Horizons, so even if the original television program dropped it (I forget which channel) it was revived for at least one more season.
I think Seth would lose his mind and be hilarious
While I don't believe in God, if I have met or seen Jesus himself in the goddamn modern day, I think I will start believing in something. Hell, the most recent episode I could think of from Family Guy's plot is literally Brian going back in time to stop Jesus. He even saw god during his time there. I believe Brian is too self-centred to consider there is somebody better than him, or he's just Seth MacFarlane's favourite character, and Seth Macaroon himself is, in fact (last time I remember,) an Atheist
Plus (on that latest episode you were talking about) he did it all because a Christian girl refused to sleep with him because they weren’t married. Regardless how you may view abstinence, that episode really made Brian come off as some bitter reddit atheist incel who was pissed that a Stacy chose her religious principles over him.
@@AlecEburhard wait seriously that's the reason he travel back in time to stop Christianity you can just you know asked to marry her oh wait he only marries people who are about to die yeah good on that girl she dodged a bullet with that one
@TheMessianicMilitantuh, no he’s literally not. That’s such a dumb thing to even think that a comedy cartoon character represents an entire group of people
He’s not-an atheist
Yeah, if I met God, I'd definitely go from being an agnostic atheist to a gnostic maltheist real quick.
Family Guy is mostly episodic therefore it doesn't matter if he met Jesus in one episode because as long as it's not connected to the next.
Thank you. A lot of people mistake Family Guy as a serialized show similar to that of Rick and Morty, Praise Petey, Final Space and Rip Digman. Most comedy shows should be episodic and not be a story with character development and lore. Comedy shows like Family Guy, American Dad and South Park should be episodic.
@@samflood5631 That would make sense but hasn't Lois mentioned the fact that Brian has met Jesus before? And plus there's atleast to some extent a timeline since the Griffins mention and bring up previous events that have happened to them in the past episodes. Not to mention Peter's Chicken fights it all started with that one gag and now they consistently fight in newer episodes.
This show has multiple examples of having continuity.
@@AscendedEmperor yeah but they've also established time travel and the multiverse. The best explanation is the episodes exist on the same timeline but not the same reality unless one episode calls back to a previous episode. So anytime they say "Brian met Jesus therefore he shouldn't be atheist" that episode exists on the same timeline as the one where they met Jesus. Every other time when it's not mentioned it's an alternate timeline where they didn't meet Jesus.
@@MegaSoulHero nobody is denying that, I'm just explaining why continuity doesn't always matter.
What irked me the most about Brian’s lame rant, he blames God for everything. God made you this, God put you there. God didn’t do any of that. Like a parent whose child decides to walk away from them(and in our case in a “fk you dad” kinda way) we are left on our own to deal with the brunt of the world. Like a parent, he can help out and support us(blessings and miracles) and we’re always welcome back in his warm loving home, but there’s a taint there that always will be until our sins are truly dead and buried. God loves us, but this isn’t the world he wanted. Even he’s been shocked with the choices we made but through freedom of choice, he still allows us to make mistakes. If God wanted to make robots with no free will to do exactly as he says with no thought just beep boop, I’d imagine he could easily. We did and we’re nothing compared to the infinite. God gave us a foundation to live under. He made the blueprint for the human form, but without his hand to guide our development, we’re at the behest of our genetics. God didn’t put you in a terrible family, he created the very concept of family, but without his direction, we’re at the mercy of whatever family situation we’re born into.
"atheism is a religion" and that's when the author lost all credibility.
It's true, many militant atheists are more zealous then Christians. Atheistism isn't literally a religion but people who are hardcore atheists act like it is.
And that's when you proved the joke.
I don't believe in God btw
Yeah, that speech he gave at the end is still my number one most hated thing at all of TV history.
I've re written this like 30 times but I keep going into a 10 paragraph rant about my beliefs. So I'm just gonna disconnect and end it like this. You want my full religion breakdown? Just ask in the replies... Assuming UA-cam informs me of them.
I'd be interested to hear!
Let’s start half way. Do you believe in ghosts?
Bullock is played by Patrick Stewart who played Captain Picard from star trek. On star trek Picard told Wesley to shut up. Wesley is played by will Weston. That's the joke
*Will Wheaton
Guys.. remember the Chewbacca defense?
No... what is it
@@TerraJ-ug6nc it was a cutaway.
It does not make sense!
@@Thatblackcircle doesn't explain it but okay
@@Thatblackcircle ok what was the cutaway
Because the writers were lazy
No because of the behavior of the Christians in previous episodes. Like the episode where they supported Mayor West’s ban on gay marriage. The episode where the whole town chased the Griffins out of town because they thought Stewie was possessed when all he did was vomit red wine. The episode where the Opal Ring Crusade made up lies to the students of James Wood High into believing that Sex was wrong, and they basically kicked Lois out of the school for teaching teenagers about condoms. And let’s not forget the episode where Lois was ostracized by the town for being a porn star.
1:48 thats extremely based because i also have no sympathy for a judgmental christan, they arent even supposed to be judging people. thats god's job
Brian is anti-theist actually. He wants to destroy the deities and the faith in them probably bc Peter was given birds the word from Jesus.
Next generation is technically both a spinoff and a sequel as its takes place in the same universe, but decades after the original where it follows an entirely different crew piloting the enterprise and their own adventures
My issue with Seth is he thinks a complete absence of subtlety equals comedy.
I watched his shitty movie "a million ways to die in the west."
No I did not watch it willingly. Seth never once shuts up in the entire film and it's as subtle as a trainwreck on a boat.
Honestly there needs to be more examination of Brian's relationship to Meg, some Family Guy fans say that Brian is the one family member who treat her well but that's only because he usually doesn't actively abuse her like Peter or Lois might do. I would say that Brian is a more sublte kind of abuser who uses their appearance of being reasonable and calm to make sure thier victim stays in their abusive situation. I love that moment in the Family Cat episode where Meg reads Brian for filth on how he really doesn't do much to help or comfort Meg.
Compared to shows like south park and the simpsons, family guy religion jokes feel like they were written by an angsty 14 year old R/athiestism member. Not even jokes, just rants all the time and no commitment.
@TheMessianicMilitant just the most auidable ones are like that no atheist i have ever met act anything close to this
Simply coming from an belief he has had for years that predate family guy not mention Bryan is just stand in mc of Seth him self
You know the irony of this. The bible says that everyone knows God exists, but they suppress the truth in their hearts. Brian has met Jesus multiple times and still doesn't believe in God.
Is that the Bible? I think it's Paradise Lost.
@jffry890 Roman's 1:19-21 'for what can be known about god is plain to them, because god has shown it to them. For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse. For although they knew god, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened.'
But to be fair, the Bible says a lot of made up shit sooo...
This is an amazing take
@@stephentaylor356 What did the bible make up?
@@founboy78 aside from the passage I just quoted??? Lots...have you ever read it??? Plants being created before the stars, a global flood that never happened, news enslaved in Egypt...how much time do you have???
Family guy is actually genuinely transphobic. I liked Ida and how she took herself seriously but there were jokes made to be actually hurtful and dehumanizing.
I’m really glad to see that Meg is becoming a better character. She’s no longer being this teenager and is starting to embrace the weirdness and everyone around her are starting to like her more.
This video seemed cool but OH MY GOD GET TO THE POINT PLEASE 😭😭
Personally I dont think Brian's an atheist, most atheists dont care if someones religious they just wanna be left alone and leave people alone (for the most part, there are exceptions). Brian doesn't do that. He always tries to tell people religion is wrong and gets annoyed at best angry at worst whenever religion is brought up. He even tried to ruin a Christmas festival once mainly because he didn't like it in one episode. Hes not an atheist, he's an anti-theist, he hates the idea of religion and the fact people practice it. Also another reason is Brian's a contrarian and he lives in a predominantly religious town he has to be in the out group.
That’s called anti theism
The exception is usually a Christian expressing themselves within earshot, in my experience.
So if there was a video where the whole comment section was people saying how stupid black people were, would you believe that those people just “want to be left alone” or would you mistrust them?
That’s how I feel about atheist videos. Not a single logical commenter in the bunch, all people saying how I’m a terrible person for my beliefs - by mentioning the group I’m part of.
You're correct. Most athiests are not anti-theists... Though they should be. Religion might "bring people comfort" but if you're not a part of it, it unfortunately also "shapes world views" and so religious people vote accordingly. Thus forcing their views onto others. Religion. Is. Never. "just personal".
@@SupHapCak Look, even if all you do is believe, pay lip service, and go to church once in a while, your mere existence as a Christan supports the views of the nutcases who are the reason we are not able to cure blind children with a shot of stemcells and why women's reproductive rights are a constant political battle. Moderates support extremist posisions. So sorry, but you are part of the problem. The main part of the problem, since if only the extremists existed we'd have them locked in mental institutions. But since there's a billion of you guys that makes their madness scocialy acceptable, and that madness hurts humanity far more than it helps.
@@MeepChangeling u could also say that forcing atheism brings nihilism and no sense of purpose
Brian's shadow speech to Meg doesn't bother me. It's pretty evident that her faith is equally shallow. Rather than a fall asleep, I bring this up to argue that Brian is making that speech to resonate with his audience. While he was ugly about it, she progressed from an assumed generic deism to doxxing him followed by book burning by what amounts to a clockwork Orange style brainwashing.
Yeah, I get that Jesus and God are Canon characters, so that type of atheism is contradictory, but we clearly see that Brian is shadow and conceited though to discredit that in favor of hisb own world view. Personally, I think it's more interesting to explore the inverted idea of the atheism debate. Where usually the bad faith anti atheism argument is that all atheists secretly believe in God, but deny him so they can sin and pretend there will be no consequences. In shows like family guy, or South Park, where God is explicitly shown to exist, explicitly atheistic characters would be prayed like hypocrites.
My theory is Brian is the physical manifestation of what a lot of Christians think Atheists are like a lot of Christians believe Atheists and others all believe God exist but choose not to follow him out of selfishness or something. Brian is just an awful person just like how a lot of Christians portray Atheists as. I think my theory holds water hopefully.
5:15 You prolly got awnsers already but lol
Next Generations is a show from the 80s that is basically a distant sequel show. Think the new Star Wars trilogy from Disney except people actually like it more than the original.
I honestly wouldn't blame Brian for being an atheist. In fact, it makes sense. The reasons he's listed and the methods he does isn't right, but I get why a dog would choose to be atheist. Every other religion says a dog either has no soul or is just meant for subservience. What canine with Brian's level of sentience ever want to believe in any of them? If that was Brian's true reason, despite all the evidence, it would be completely understandable. Although, if it had been his true reason then he should ask Jesus if he does indeed have a soul. He proved he was real, take advantage of the fact that you could actually get more than silence and have to draw your own conclusions.
That's not an atheist, that's an antitheist, pro tip, don't go with the "atheist are just mad at God" trope, it's exhausting and has never been true LOL
Denise Crosby was only in 22 episodes of Star Trek the next generation. I don’t think it has anything to do with her dying, maybe I’m wrong.
They should've shown "Atlas Shrugged" being burned and have Brian be like, "Okay, you can burn that".
Or the Da Vinci Code, lol.
Brain is so petty, even when he’s proven wrong about God not existing, he willingly tries to sabotage the crucifixion of Christ just to prove an argument he loss before he was born 😂
Brian is just miserable enough to just blame God instead of blaming himself or the devil
Isn't the Jesus wine joke a reference to his blood being wine? So it's a transubstation joke, rather than a water to wine joke.
Given Brian's life I doubt he would ever believe in God with how his mother was stuffed after she died, and most importantly Pearl's death which I feel shattered his beliefs in God and also maybe how his cousin's homosexual relationship is treated as a sin
Religion isn't going around forcibly coverting people to your way of thinking*
It was that for most of the history of religion. Or at very least Christianity.
I'd also say from observation that the modern practice of religion has little to nothing to do with being a 'truly good person'. It is frequently explained by adherents of the faith in authoritarian and transactional terms, they care about reward from their unimpeachable authority figure not doing what is good because it is good.
It also applies to islam so the two biggest religions by a long shot both do this as well as judaism
Before Watching: My guess is that it's just stubbornness/ignorance on his part. I would say it's a thing of him believing in God and all that since he has met Jesus and has had many religious encounters, it's just him not following any religious teachings, thus making him an "atheist". However from what I have seen he does look down on those who are religious despite being secretly religious himself (Stewie caught him praying when they all thought the world was gonna end). Honestly it looks like it's just ego, he's a fake contrarian, rather than have his own opinions he chooses the opposite of what everyone thinks or agrees with to make himself feel smarter, the whole "if every ones right, then no one's right" thing. Honestly I think if the Griffins were Atheists themselves he would probably be Ned Flanders.
Personally I think it’s because since he is usually surrounded by religious people in Quahog, Brian is atheist not because he actually believes in a lack of evidence proving the existence of a higher power (that would be giving him too much credit), but so he can feel “special”.
One I would like to say about this show is that isn't linear. Chronological speaking which most people don't notice, understandable so. Which probably why they don't reference Jesus in the episode. If I'm being honest I always vibed with episode purely because I know people like Meg, who most would describe as fanatical due to them shoving their faith and opinions down your throat without a chance to question. And if you didn't like what they are doing or saying, they try to use the surrounding people to bully you into their opinions.
P.S. I am not targeting Christianity but just to say that I have had this experience with people of the Christian belief and other beliefs.
I always found that this episode to be a commentary/lesson on how finding a religion is good but making you whole personality isn't the best idea and using it to bully other isn't right. Also, that if someone opinion about your life and ideals are enough to shake/shatter them then you probably didn't belief the things in what you said you did. Also, you were probably using it(faith) to project your issues.
Note this is just my opinion and don't attack for it. Also sorry for the possible lack of grammar and spelling.
8:52 girl I know you're young but it was 2009 not caveman times 😭 Netflix streaming was 2 years old and I very much had a TV in my bedroom.
I don't believe in God because of personal reasons, but at the same time. I don't have proof that there is a God, and that doesn't bother me. Brain on the other hand takes the piss out of being an Atheist. Like an actual stain to our already damage community thanks to Reddit.
28:07-28:13 back when Family Guy was better. Seasons 1-6 also he did tell Stewie he made a commitment to God when he marries Olivia in season 5 if that counts as Brian believing in God before season 7 destroyed the show.
To be atheist in a world like Simpson, family guy or South Park would be different then our world to be consistent but is possible. In these worlds there are multiple gods and religious representatives from different religions. As many religions contradict each other something else must be going on. We know it is the writers doing whatever they want but usually the characters don’t know that. I think it would be reasonable to think that even though there are gods and religious representatives, that is not proof that they created the world. Instead it would be possible that they are created and take form after enough people believe in them. Thus mass human belief is the true great power over gods. We see Jesus in imagination land in South Park. We see different characters experiencing different afterlife’s depending on their faith. Thus an atheist in this world would know that gods exist but not believe that they are true gods. This would make Pascal’s wager have more legitimacy but the counter is fake belief won’t get you the afterlife you want. Maybe this kind of atheist would need a different name but they shouldn’t be jerks regardless.
Well, religion is manmade. End of that
10:18 donna is objectively wrong here you can actively see the force whenever a jedi or sith does anything
43:32 how did we go from you not being certain if Rogers name was "roger" to you knowing about Bullock's son
Idk anything about family guy or this episode
As an atheist heres the thing if you fully convinced me a god exists even a specific god id still say that god is evil or at least an asshole.
Also as a side note in my opinion agnostic atheism is the only reasonable position, on the subject there isnt any evidence or reason to believe or disbeilive so gnosticism is silly, then if you have no evidence why would you believe in a god with no evidence, rather you would not believe in one, without evidence, therefore agnostic (lack of being sure) atheism (lack of belief in a god) is the only reasonable position given what we know.
You can be a gnostic atheist for certain gods since some can be proven false but you can’t be for all gods
@@linuxramblingproductions8554that's true, but still wouldn't describe the overall position, which is why it didn't feel relevant
bro, that is exactly my position what a coincidence
I’m a Christian and you one of best friends is an agnostic pretty much almost an atheist my other friend has some different views on Christianity than me. The three of us best friends. Now look I wanna start out by saying family guy is funny sometimes but when it’s not it’s some of the least funny shot and most revolting stuff to watch ever. I’ll start by saying the b plot of this episode was fucking hilarious so you know that was awesome. I went with the shoe watched right up to the episode where quagmire almost went to jail for that stuff I don’t think even UA-cam will let me list here you know when his mom came back and all. I would have stopped watching the show long before that but when your a broke college student who lives just off campus can’t drive and doesn’t have many friends you have a MacBook because your film department said you needed one so you can’t game on it and only gets Hulu you watch some shit that’s for sure. Look the show can be good and funny sometimes it’s just it often has far to much disgusting sex stuff threw throw up as jokes for far to long and often doesn’t know when to end a joke. You also gotta consider they do things that they do things that get passed over from one episode to the next but are just so morally wrong and we’re like supposed to just pretend it never happened?! My biggest problem though was it SHOVED at you that Christianity and all religions were wrong and no religion was true dispute the fact that Jesus Christ was in the show and met everyone before. Get your world building in order as a future college screenwriter I can’t stand huge logical inconsistencies like that. I’m not gunna super hate everyone who is atheist or a different religion or wish them ill will. Look if you want to approach the topic make it a discussion bring in people from multiple religions bring in atheists as well make it a calm civil discussion that’s how you should handle it. Don’t PAINFULLY SHOVE one ideology at someone that just makes you sound so unwilling to listen to the other side. Also don’t have plot holes retcons or logical inconsistencies in your show Jesus Christ is real in the show. Maybe they cleaned themselves up a little after the Disney bought them but the revolting sex stuff and cons and PAINFULLY shoving atheism down your throat was definitely a thing far to much from what I watched so I stopped watching it.
16:30
I....whatever.
And a few things. God had been described as having some physical form when his footsteps being heard in the Garden of Eden and him going down to Earth during the tower of Babylon deal.
Plus he had supposedly visited and commanded people in the bible. Why didn’t he care about free will back then?
Also, the way Brian was treated by the community once he was outed as an atheist reminded me of that student from Basthrop who almost had his life ruined for writing a private email to the principal how praying at the graduation went against the constitution
16:36 jahovas witnesses and southern evangelist would beg to differ. Same with the catholic church of the medieval period
First off, if Cleveland Jr. claims he doesn't want to be an Atheist like Brian...why is he part of an organization that glorifies it (as revealed in the Christian Camp episode.)
Secondly, I don't really feel...too negatively towards Atheist people. It's when they decide to act like they're superior, claim science is the end all/beat all answer to EVERYTHING in the universe; even when you're suffering from deep emotional issues.
But most importantly, my only main nitpick with Atheism is how they can feel "at peace" with the idea that...literally NOTHING awaits us after that. By that, I'm talking about what Moe Syzlak likes to call "an empty void that's like the abandoned mall where the JC Pennys is full of bears." How can they go around telling everybody else that nothing we think/do/believe in matters, that we came from nothing and we'll fade away into nothing?
This isnt to disagree with you or your experience but for me, i feel at peace because if i dont exist anymore then there is nothing to be afraid of. I wont exist to be bothered about not existing anymore.
Also, I dont think the things you do DONT matter. In fact, quite the opposite. Everything you do matters because thats all we have. It matters more because this world and life is all we have and all our children will have. It matters because it DOESN'T last forever; it makes life precious and valuable.
I hope anyone struggling with these thoughts are okay. You matter because of you. If anyone is struggling with their religion, have questions or feel isolated please reach out to
Recovering From Region.
They offer a neutral place and support without trying to convince you to change your beliefs.
@@AmyGrape-wc9uy The world needs more people like YOU in it, my friend.
We've got too many Brians and Rick Sanchezes in this world...people who not only believe in nothing but their nihilistic worldview is so toxic that they try to push it off on others
To borrow from CGP Grey, as best I can remember; "While it is true in the end we are all naught but dust, why does that matter more than now?"
I don't think nothing I do matters. Thinking that's so just because I eventually won't exist is putting undo importance on the future. Every life, every moment matters. Who I am, and the impact I have on those around me not only matters, it's the only thing that could possibly matter to me.
Does that help illustrate it?
What really annoys me about most atheists is they act like Christianity and science are mutually exclusive.
Science has its origins in Christianity and it’s only been the last century that there was a BIG push to separate the two concepts.
For the second half of your point, exactly.
If nothing matters, believing in an afterlife doesn’t matter, so they should flick off and let people practice their religion.
Some person was disappointed that this dying girl said she [the girl] was coping by looking on the bright side, saying she would see her grandparents again.
The disappointment, this person said, came from the idea that the girl was “wasting” the time she had left on fantasy.
If God isn’t real, there is no afterlife, then the time we do have now isn’t really that special and it won’t matter what she did in her final moments. She was matter one moment and not matter the next.
Not to mention if she’s that close to death’s door she can’t do much but stay in the hospital. She isn’t going to go paragliding over Peru so she should be given space to believe what she wants.
If I remember correctly, in the first few seasons Brian was Catholic but it was more hinted at. But then Seth decided to turn Brian into his avatar.
Also Star Trek the next generation is a reboot I think with a completely new cast.
I think Brian’s atheism is a joke and they make fun of him for it. In this episode I think they were talking about the stigma behind being an atheist. As we all know Family Guy isn’t always lineal or cannon a lot of the time. In “Not All Dogs Go to Heaven” it seems like the only time they take a serious tone with it. Brian (in later episodes) uses his atheism as tool of self importance.
14:43 Denise Crosby was a sacrifice character because her character Tasha Yar actually was killed off in season 1 of TNG.
Honestly, it's just the "token skeptic" problem all over again.
You take what in our world is a totally reasonable position, like that magic isn't real, then you have it espoused by someone who lives in a world where evocation, divination, and enchanting are the three most common majors selected by college freshman. It would be like someone in our world ranting about how electricity is fake.
Maybe for a one off joke it's fine, but when it's played seriously it just comes off as the writers not understanding that people in a different world, with different rules of reality, would have different notions of what is normal. (Chewbacca said calmly)
26:46 that's not what omnipotent means. It means all powerful. All powerful does not mean they take on any form. Of the 5 omnis, omnipresent would be the better one for this. Omnipresent means that a being is present everywhere which could also translate as taking on any form for being all present.
He's athiest because he doesn't like the idea that when he dies he will be judged for all he's done and go to a afterlife based on his actions in my headcanon. He can't bear the idea of going to hell because of his many scumbag moments, because he can't accept he's a bad person. And he clings to atheism because he also doesn't like the idea that religion is actually something with a purpose when he knows god and jesus are real, because then it makes atheism have no purpose.
Denise was the sacrifice character because her character was killed off in the show and she was one of the first 'main cast' characters to die, it's a meta joke.
Brian and stewie are the best characters in family guy.
Chewbacca! (What a Wookiee!)
Brian is one of my favorite family guy characters.
Denise Crosby's character, Tasha Yar, was killed in the first season episode "Skin of Evil", which is probably why Stewie killed Denise right away(not even bringing up that Crosby comes back as the half-Romulan daughter of Tasha Yar through a convoluted time warp because that's it's own can of worms)
I'm an atheist, and I hate every time Brian brings It up.
I've been told by an unseen force to say chewbacca and I'm not questioning it
6:18 the fact I'm washing the dishes while watching this 😭
As a christian i hate the way they portray jesus in this show I understand criticism of religion and stuff but honestly they feels like they're just blatantly mocking you without any real criticism of your beliefs
I guess more power to them but I don't know it just kind of gets on my nerves part of why I never watch family Guy in the first place they never have anything constructed to say most of the time
And yeah I get it I understand yes it's a comedy show
Love ur show btw
Honestly even Brian represents atheists really bad and the gay people are represented bad everyone is represented bad. I think that's part of the humor. Everyone is a straw man caricature.
41:00 You're damn right That would have made this episode so much better. I guess what the family guy riders were going for was trying to make it more funny by Brian saying negative things to Meg like what her family constantly does. Instead of actually doing something gets more believable and more reasonable and quite honestly I think Brian probably would have said such a thing like you said there to Meg if it was the old Brian from the first three seasons and to a lesser extent season 4 and 5 I guess but what you wrote there that you think Brian should have said would have made a much better point and would have made the episode better.