Wrecking Tanks with a 50mm Cannon Nose - Me 410 Hornet

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  • The Messerschmitt 210 was intended to replace the effective yet outdated Bf 110 fighter-bomber. Then, after dozens of enhancements, the Me 210 evolved into the Me 410 Hornet in 1942.
    The German Me 410 quickly proved its value as a bomber destroyer thanks to its array of armament, which comprised underwing mortars, 30-millimeter cannons, and a colossal 5-centimeter BK cannon.
    It was also used as a fighter-bomber, heavy fighter, reconnaissance platform, and bomber interceptor, becoming a nightmare for the American B17 formations after realizing that one shot from the Hornet’s BK cannon was more than enough to neutralize them.
    Even the Fuhrer was mesmerized by the Hornet’s effectiveness and named it “The backbone of the home air defense,” trusting that it would keep the Allied air forces at bay.
    However, its development took several wrong turns, which resulted in several casualties, putting Hitler’s high hopes into question...
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  • @kantemirovskaya1lightninga30
    @kantemirovskaya1lightninga30 2 роки тому +197

    My late grandfather flew the ME 109 for Hungary while assigned to a forgotten unit then later the 101 Puma's. Sadly it was rough times and he had a new model (I think G10...?) which the Germans took from his unit since they were short. They all became foot soldiers and 2 days later he was captured. He later escaped to live a happy life but thanks for this one. I remember the look on his face when I showed him a pic of his old squadron commander I found on the Internet as tears welled up in his eyes. My wife, his granddaughter escaped back in the early 70s with family but we made it back there before and after the wall fell for visits. He was a hard core old man and I enjoyed our talks over barack pálinka. This episode inspired me to look in my family tree software. I spoke with him about all his times back in 2005 and documented it all... it just made a fine re read so thank you!

    • @dave8599
      @dave8599 2 роки тому +1

      how many innocent civilians, and allied freedom fighters did old grandpa murder while he fought for hitler?

    • @JanitorScruffy
      @JanitorScruffy 2 роки тому +25

      @@dave8599 Not enough.

    • @jeerasaksirimongcol2288
      @jeerasaksirimongcol2288 2 роки тому +15

      @@dave8599 how many have your grandpa killed during bombing mission over germany ?

    • @KentuckyFriedChildren
      @KentuckyFriedChildren 2 роки тому +24

      @@dave8599 Do you really think he had a choice? You’re pretty tough considering you haven’t gone through half of that shit.

    • @kantemirovskaya1lightninga30
      @kantemirovskaya1lightninga30 2 роки тому +18

      Your grasp of history is that of a four year old. Things get complicated in war especially when your country is occupied. If someone who has fought on multiple continents I’m just guessing you don’t have a clue what you’re talking about

  • @madjoe8622
    @madjoe8622 2 роки тому +26

    I am always amazed that once in a while, I still find a video with vehicles in ww2 that I never knew about.

  • @dodoubleg2356
    @dodoubleg2356 2 роки тому +350

    "2,200 tons??" Not sure 'bout that one, lol. 🤔

    • @merlinbrother1177
      @merlinbrother1177 2 роки тому +29

      2200 pounds

    • @johnp8131
      @johnp8131 2 роки тому +23

      I heard that too? Impressive? Even if the man talks bollocks!

    • @topiasr628
      @topiasr628 2 роки тому +32

      You win this comment section's "Most Pedantic" award 🏆

    • @halogeek6
      @halogeek6 2 роки тому +19

      Yeah that one caught me off guard. One of those bombers could single handedly level London. If that was the case.

    • @gothicpagan.666
      @gothicpagan.666 2 роки тому +4

      Lost in translation old chap.

  • @terraflow__bryanburdo4547
    @terraflow__bryanburdo4547 2 роки тому +94

    When I was a kid I had a model of the 410 with the BK 50 cannon. Pretty much my favorite model!

    • @Litauen-yg9ut
      @Litauen-yg9ut 2 роки тому +10

      Still have mine, over 35 years later actually right behind me on the shelf as I type..

    • @Minong_Manitou_Mishepeshu
      @Minong_Manitou_Mishepeshu 2 роки тому +3

      Make an electric one out of foam and paper and fly it virtually.

    • @kelvinfoote9897
      @kelvinfoote9897 2 роки тому +6

      I built the same one. I think I just chose it due to the big gun.

    • @terraflow__bryanburdo4547
      @terraflow__bryanburdo4547 2 роки тому +4

      @@kelvinfoote9897 Some times bigger IS better! I hung it up next to the Hs 129

    • @terraflow__bryanburdo4547
      @terraflow__bryanburdo4547 2 роки тому +5

      @@Litauen-yg9ut Mine was 53 years ago...long gone *sob*

  • @joachimdeussen
    @joachimdeussen 2 роки тому +47

    Space-time changed! He is speaking slower. I thought I would never experience this. Way to go, man. Keep it that way.

    • @paulreilly3904
      @paulreilly3904 2 роки тому +2

      I find it rather slow and prefer to listen at 1.25% still, each to their own.

    • @docholliday7157
      @docholliday7157 2 роки тому +2

      That's nothing.
      If you never saw the first few years of (the original channel was called Dark 5), they had no narrator at all.
      You had to read everything from subtitles, which is not a problem if you have NOTHING else to do at the time.
      (I like to listen to videos when I'm doing chores, sort of like a mini podcast)
      This guy has a very good, neutral voice, but I know what you mean, it sounded sped up or digitally altered.

    • @keastymatthew2407
      @keastymatthew2407 2 роки тому +1

      You've just got a slow mind. Grow up

    • @mqcapps
      @mqcapps 2 роки тому

      Yeah...keep slowing down

  • @robertmcmanus636
    @robertmcmanus636 2 роки тому +180

    the ME-210's bomb load was limited to 2200 TONS??? These guys put out videos on interesting topics, but it seems like they're mailing it in when it comes to accuracy.

    • @fishjohn014
      @fishjohn014 2 роки тому +24

      Oh they dont care at all; they just crank these videos out for $$

    • @Ag3nt0fCha0s
      @Ag3nt0fCha0s 2 роки тому +7

      @@itchytriggerfinger7622 nah, that is because he is stealing computer voice over and speeds it up so he doesnt get copywrite sued.

    • @fishjohn014
      @fishjohn014 2 роки тому +18

      @@Ag3nt0fCha0s nah....its his real voice

    • @jonathonbarnes3582
      @jonathonbarnes3582 2 роки тому +21

      That's right...it was actually 22,000 tons...an easy mistake to make....

    • @kellypainter7625
      @kellypainter7625 2 роки тому +5

      Let's mix units too. km/h and tons. Pick one.

  • @All_Hail_Chael
    @All_Hail_Chael 2 роки тому +57

    One of the best looking planes of WW2
    I've seen one at Cosford Air Museum, looks just as good up close.

    • @grantsmythe8625
      @grantsmythe8625 2 роки тому +11

      Yes it does look good. The Germans made some fine looking aircraft. The FW 190 was beautiful.

    • @Litauen-yg9ut
      @Litauen-yg9ut 2 роки тому +2

      Actually I have a model kit of one with the 50mm I built over 35 years ago still on the shelf in my man cave. Can't remember if it was an Airfix or a Testors kit.

    • @CR-xl7zu
      @CR-xl7zu 2 роки тому +1

      It always reminds me of a little fish with wings. It was a heck of a design, though.

    • @bvflyer141cs2
      @bvflyer141cs2 2 роки тому +1

      When I was on a layover in London, I took an extra day just to drive up to Cosford and see the 410 as well as the KI-46, two of my favorite aircraft.

    • @All_Hail_Chael
      @All_Hail_Chael 2 роки тому

      @@bvflyer141cs2 The KI 46 is a beauty too.
      Great idea to pop up there and have a look.

  • @ezekiellucas7241
    @ezekiellucas7241 2 роки тому +2

    Love your videos! All of them like dark skies, dark docs and dark 5! I could go on! Glad you're starting the get the views you deserve!

  • @elastofragmentoplast9350
    @elastofragmentoplast9350 2 роки тому +11

    Bomb load capacity of 2200 tonnes? Impressive!

  • @kampfgruppepeiper501
    @kampfgruppepeiper501 2 роки тому

    Awesome video man, thank you for the information

  • @adriangoede7433
    @adriangoede7433 2 роки тому +12

    The 410 was a beautiful design (imo). Whenever I saw one sweep past, I couldn’t help but think what an awesome plane it would have been with a couple turbojet engines in place of the props. In my mind I kind of thought of it a big brother of the ME262. It probably wouldn’t have been able to handle the power as it was never designed to have jet engines under its wings. 🤣 But one can still dream.

    • @slartibartfast2649
      @slartibartfast2649 Рік тому

      Where/ when did you see that? As far as I was aware, the last time one of these was flown was just after the war when it was being evaluated by the Allies.

    • @adriangoede7433
      @adriangoede7433 Рік тому +2

      @@slartibartfast2649 Ha! You misunderstood my meaning. I was referring to seeing them in historical footage. Just my observations of what a beautiful plane it was. Now, I’ve been fortunate enough to have seen some excellent war birds in person but, in this case, it certainly wasn’t in the flesh! I was born in 1972. Even with all the stories of the “war era,” my Dad told me as a kid, he was only born in 1932. Truly, the only Luftwaffe plane I’ve ever seen in the flesh, was the Junkers JU87 Stuka, that once hung from the ceiling as you walked into The Museum of Science & Industry in Chicago. I’d heard it had been taken down but, that was so many years ago… who knows. And maybe one day I’ll be fortunate enough to get to the Smithsonian or better yet, some of the museums in Europe. But, I’ve resigned myself to the fact that the latter will likely never happen. It’s just not a reality for people like me. That and I’m too cheap! 🤣

    • @slartibartfast2649
      @slartibartfast2649 Рік тому +1

      @@adriangoede7433 Most British museums are free if that helps! The Science Museum in London has a good collection, but the best by far is IWM DUxford.

  • @Mrgunsngear
    @Mrgunsngear 2 роки тому

    Thanks

  • @The.Drunk-Koala
    @The.Drunk-Koala 2 роки тому +4

    I love the 410, it's a beautiful bird

  • @sternencolonel7328
    @sternencolonel7328 2 роки тому +14

    the BF-110 didn't defend the "Motherland", in Germany the term "Fatherland" is used.

    • @sparky4878
      @sparky4878 2 роки тому +2

      Russia referred to itself as the Motherland, right?

    • @Bramon83
      @Bramon83 2 роки тому +1

      @@sparky4878 yessir

    • @letoubib21
      @letoubib21 2 роки тому

      @@sparky4878 Mommy Stalin *. . . ;-)*

    • @KilledMind1985
      @KilledMind1985 2 роки тому +1

      Das Vaterland

  • @toddlinder-flowman6687
    @toddlinder-flowman6687 2 роки тому

    Loving your channel!!

  • @JRCinKY
    @JRCinKY 2 роки тому

    Another Great Video from you. I did not know I was So Ignorant until I started watching your videos. Thank You.

  • @johnparnell9488
    @johnparnell9488 2 роки тому

    I love your channel!

  • @attila7092
    @attila7092 Рік тому

    Fine looking plane. The Hornet name fits

  • @sparky4878
    @sparky4878 2 роки тому +55

    Before I get into to this I imagine plenty of comments comparing to the Mosquito and the versions with the 57mm cannon.
    Edit: 4:34 its bomb-load was limited to 2,200 tonnes?! Either a mis-speak or the heaviest bomber of WWII and I never knew that.

    • @WalaVeioMala
      @WalaVeioMala 2 роки тому +6

      2,200 pounds, 2 bombs of 500kg

    • @sparky4878
      @sparky4878 2 роки тому +11

      @@WalaVeioMala yes. As much as I like Dark Skies too many silly mistakes slip through the edit.

    • @steeltiger5000
      @steeltiger5000 2 роки тому +3

      @@WalaVeioMala he did say 2200 tonnes

    • @typxxilps
      @typxxilps 2 роки тому +2

      @@sparky4878 Call it attention test cause the community will find all these tiny details and he will pin the comment to the top.
      Simply try to deliver 1 of such videos in such time frame and then the attitude and expectations will be different than now.

    • @robertmcmanus636
      @robertmcmanus636 2 роки тому +4

      @@sparky4878 I don't like them at all. I keep getting sucked into their videos due to promising content that is then VERY disappointing due to the seeming utter lack of fact checking and any editing of the script.

  • @oneshotme
    @oneshotme 2 роки тому

    Enjoyed your video and I gave it a Thumbs Up

  • @geordiedog1749
    @geordiedog1749 2 роки тому +1

    That’s an impressive bomb load:)

  • @brenglover72
    @brenglover72 2 роки тому +2

    Great looking aircraft.

  • @ZZstaff
    @ZZstaff 2 роки тому

    Thank you.

  • @derin111
    @derin111 2 роки тому

    A really good looking aircraft too!

  • @TopSecretVid
    @TopSecretVid 2 роки тому

    what a beast...and pretty looking.

  • @jimmyjamz5055
    @jimmyjamz5055 2 роки тому +1

    Nice looking plane.

  • @robinsonsstudios
    @robinsonsstudios 2 роки тому +35

    One thing that still baffles me is why the 410 never was used as a night fighter. Seeing as its predecessor became the luftwaffes most effective NF of the war,I do wonder why the 410 wasnt adapted for this role.

    • @peterszar
      @peterszar 2 роки тому +5

      Whoa.. I'll bet the ME 410 couldn't handle the 2200 ton bombload (04:34 min.) that ME 210 could. And people watch this crap? C'mon Boeing, build a bigger B-52, to match this 1940's design.

    • @thomaszhang3101
      @thomaszhang3101 2 роки тому +6

      I am pretty sure the Me410 b2/r3 was fitted with radar, two 20mm mg151 and two 30mm mk103. It is a night fighter.

    • @robinsonsstudios
      @robinsonsstudios 2 роки тому +2

      @@thomaszhang3101 you mean the b6r3 but that radar you see is a Hohentwiel radar for anti shipping use

    • @thomaszhang3101
      @thomaszhang3101 2 роки тому +2

      @@robinsonsstudios holy shit, you are right. Why does it have 30 mm then? I am expecting it have an internal Bombay for 250kg bombs, u know, for ships.

    • @robinsonsstudios
      @robinsonsstudios 2 роки тому +3

      @@thomaszhang3101 my best guess would be for attacking patrol craft or the like, the 30mm Mk 103 has amazing HE and AP rounds, which would be well suited for the job.
      However, that's just my best guess, I couldn't find many information about the b6 r3s operational history

  • @Bob.W.
    @Bob.W. 2 роки тому

    That's one heck of a bomb load.

  • @clarencehopkins7832
    @clarencehopkins7832 2 роки тому

    Good to know thanks

  • @corsair149
    @corsair149 2 роки тому

    Beautyful Aircraft

  • @colinmartin9797
    @colinmartin9797 2 роки тому +11

    A "2200 ton" bomb load would be hilarious. Imagine that thing dropping bombs about as big as the Saturn 5 rocket.

    • @KiwiKaosAgent
      @KiwiKaosAgent 2 роки тому

      Lol yes I picked up on that laughable facts.

    • @steellion1803
      @steellion1803 2 роки тому

      It actually did have bombs that heavy

  • @TalkingGIJoe
    @TalkingGIJoe 2 роки тому

    a gorgeous design...

  • @deanpatterson9036
    @deanpatterson9036 Рік тому +2

    "Limited to 2,200 tons!"
    More than that, you might over stress the wing.

    • @jeffmoore9487
      @jeffmoore9487 Рік тому

      You've got to respect German engineering. 2,200 tons is a pretty good payload for a two engine fighter in 1943!

  • @wombatwilly1002
    @wombatwilly1002 2 роки тому

    Here's one i knew very little about!

  • @tubthump
    @tubthump 2 роки тому +12

    The title starts "tank wrecking..." so where were the tanks?

    • @Litauen-yg9ut
      @Litauen-yg9ut 2 роки тому

      Maybe an assumption due to the 50mm

    • @jamesdalton2014
      @jamesdalton2014 2 роки тому +1

      Just a mistake in a video full of them. Not one of Dark Skies best efforts.

    • @tricosteryl
      @tricosteryl 2 роки тому

      The BK50 was a derivative from an anti tank weapon, but was intended as an anti aircraft gun only.
      The video is not really precise this time, not the best of the series.

    • @tricosteryl
      @tricosteryl 2 роки тому

      @baileyboy73 baileyboy73 confirmed

  • @mybluebelly
    @mybluebelly 2 роки тому

    A really cool warbird.

  • @jeffreymcdonald8267
    @jeffreymcdonald8267 2 роки тому +15

    One of the most beautiful airframes of the war. Digging in deeper, it becomes apparent that once again the Luftwaffe aircraft suffers from under-powered and unreliable engines. The Myth of German engineering in WW2, Panzercorp and Luftwaffe, really does suffer from an honest and in depth research.

    • @peterszar
      @peterszar 2 роки тому +1

      What a marvelous aircraft, a 2200 ton bombload (04:34 min.) in the 40's. Why can't we do that now??? ha ha. What a joke these "Dark" idiots are.

    • @andrewtaylor940
      @andrewtaylor940 2 роки тому +9

      The German problem wasn’t exactly one of Engineering. The biggest problem was they mated their engineering in such a way that refinements improvements and changes were happening directly on the production line. The result being that often the same model tanks had enough differences to frustrate and stymie maintenance and repair. Some describe it as no two tanks being exactly the same. They also did not give enough initial thought to the field serviceability of engines, transmissions, etc. with the design expectation that the equipment could be cycled back to the heavy maintenance facilities or factories for overhaul. Part of this is the initial design engineers did not really know how or where the equipment was to be used. Not being privy to Hitler’s plans. Contrast that with the American Sherman Tank. While on paper inferior in many ways to the German Panzers and Tigers, it’s designers knew how and where it would be used. They knew it was going overseas with no possibility of return to the factory. So the production was kept tightly consistent. Tanks of the same model were the same. It was designed to be fully field serviceable. Every US vehicle carried a tool set that could be used to service or repair almost everything related to the vehicle. Be it Tank, Jeep or aircraft. Standardization was more important than bringing every small improvement on line in a rolling manner.
      The other problem Germany faced was an increasing materials issue. Much like Japan, as the war progressed they were burning through more raw materials, more metals, than they had coming in to factories. And material quality was diminishing. Pre war they could buy the highest quality steel from anywhere in the world and stockpile. But once the war began they were reduced to what they had on hand.

    • @tricosteryl
      @tricosteryl 2 роки тому +2

      @@andrewtaylor940
      I agree,
      And adding some other facts.
      If US, USSR and allies could rely on quantities, Germany could not, and so had no choice but to improve efficiency/quality by constant innovation. Thats why they produced so many promising machines but plagged with "no go" issues and everlasting teething problems.
      Also, Germany had to deal with fuel problems, from the begining quality problems and at the end of the war quantity problems.
      Germany had no petrol wells, and was to produce fuel from coal and lignite. The drawback was that it was nearly impossible to produce hi octane fuel. And this was really a burden to engine builders, and impacted aviation engines in particular. Because of this, german aviation engines had a higher cubbage (and weight) than allied engines of same power. Because of fuel quality, german aviation engines had a power ceiling at 2200hp.
      German machines were sophisticated because this was the only option to compensate the numbers of soldiers, the quantities of vehicules and pletoric equipement the allied could bring to the front. And the sophistication as a big drawback : the serviceability. As you demonstrated, this was the weakness of all german armies at that time.

    • @tricosteryl
      @tricosteryl 2 роки тому +2

      @@andrewtaylor940
      Adding interesting fact from japanese aircrafts...
      I was in restoration association for a while when I was young, and our association was in contact with a japanese based organization that was trying to restore a seaplane, and they were searching for technical data. After a while they said the amount of parts was just crazy, because many basic standards parts were build in two versions, one for the port side, and another for the starboard side, including screws, that were clowise on one wing and anticlockwise on the other wings XD
      This puts the french obsession of symetric rotation of propellers far behind, requiring for each engine one version for clockwise rotation and another for anti clockwise rotation.

    • @arrvidcarlson8107
      @arrvidcarlson8107 2 роки тому +3

      The issue was more reliable fuel than it was poor engines. Fuel quality and available quantity varied wildly over the course of the war.

  • @JAQUESDIBLET
    @JAQUESDIBLET 2 роки тому +2

    Love your channel Brother .Thank you .

  • @Narmacil427
    @Narmacil427 2 роки тому +2

    I see the plane and keep hearing the Narwhals song.

  • @tricosteryl
    @tricosteryl 2 роки тому

    Finally there is not so much about the BK50 / Me 410 in this video
    The BK 50 was intended from the beginning as an anti aircraft weapon on the 410, in fact, the idea of such a huge AA canon was born long ago, but after evaluating many vectors, they realized that only the 410 would keep enough performance to outrun bombers and climb fast enough.
    The BK50 had 2 advantages. First, it did not required a direct hit. In fact, the specific shells were equiped with a proximity fuse and detonated while the proximity was detected.
    Second advantage, the range. The attacker could fire from more than 3000m and that was a respectable security distance. Considering the former advantage, the accuracy was not a crucial point, as the schrapnells could damage aircrafts at hundreds meters from the explosion, and the blast could dislocate any aircraft close.
    AirFan N°6-7-8 relates one attack, when a deadly direct hit on a 4 engine bomber also dislocated its 2 neigbourghs and severely damaged the fourth member of the box. Really impressive. But that kind of success was very rare
    As all other heavy fighters, the efficiency was dependant on the possibility to get close enough to the bombers and not being the prey of escort fighters. Thus after taking off early enough to climb at the required altitude and appropriate direction... they have to counter the USAAF strategy.
    Allied strategic air command were really good at giving deceptive trajectories or informations to the german fighter control, so as the heavy fighter were most of the time too late on the action or too few to have a real impact.
    Finally the strongest and most feared ennemy of allied bombers was the flak.

  • @simonjj7397
    @simonjj7397 2 роки тому +1

    I consider the 410 to be the best looking aircraft of WW2.

    • @lmc4964
      @lmc4964 2 роки тому +1

      it looks interesting and a little ahead of its time, but hard to beat the Mosquito or the P-38 in terms of looks

    • @tricosteryl
      @tricosteryl 2 роки тому +1

      I just cant say there is "one" best looking.
      Consider He219, Ar234.... P61... P38, Yak3, LeO 451....

  • @johnsanabria3279
    @johnsanabria3279 2 роки тому +72

    Have to disagree about the BK 50 cannon......first, the 410 would have to get in close just to fire it. One shot would throw off the pilot's aim--the recoil was that strong. The BK 50 saw very limited use. Second ,the 410 never saw nightfighter use. Third,by the time it was taken out of action by late 1944,the 110 was still in use,though mainly as a nightfighter.

    • @johnsanabria3279
      @johnsanabria3279 2 роки тому +23

      Have to make a retraction.......after checking a source I have on the 410,it was used for night interception duty. I stand corrected.

    • @SierraThunder
      @SierraThunder 2 роки тому +6

      It was used more for night interdiction against the Lanc's as the Bf-110's Schrage Musik setup could be incredibly dicey, sometimes taking out both the Bf-110 along with the Lancasters. But the Me-410's BK 50 had such a phenomenal recoil that the airframe had to be thoroughly examined after each flight due to the airframe's distortion caused by firing the canon more than twice in less than 3 minutes time. The recoil could also cause an immediate loss of airspeed, sometimes almost putting the 410 into an immediate, and an unwanted stall.
      The North American B-25G & H Mitchell's used in the Pacific Theatre also occasionally experienced drastic loss of airspeed caused by the recoil from 75mm canon placed in the lower port side of it's nose. In fact, one of the first pilots to use the G model in combat mistakenly thought that the nose had exploded, and almost called for an immediate bailout, plus the plane's airspeed momentarily dropped to 135 knots from 315

    • @peterszar
      @peterszar 2 роки тому +3

      You comment on this? what about the 2200 ton bombload, seems a bit high. Duh

    • @johnsanabria3279
      @johnsanabria3279 2 роки тому +6

      @@peterszar So he made a mistake.....it's understood that no plane in. WW2 could carry a 2200 ton bomb load for any great distance.

    • @EricHamm
      @EricHamm 2 роки тому +1

      ​@@SierraThunder Thanks for the extra info. I knew there was a reason why I haven't seen anyone put tank cannons on planes. Imagine instead of kamikazee they had dudes with a a howitzer cannon strapped to the plane that only had 1 shot before crashing.

  • @auro1986
    @auro1986 2 роки тому

    in thd last 3 remaining minutes of the video you talk about the aircraft mentioned in video title?

  • @slipslider9048
    @slipslider9048 2 роки тому +21

    "It's bomb load capacity was limited to 2,200 tonnes" - hmm, yeah that sounds wrong.

  • @blondegirlsezthis8798
    @blondegirlsezthis8798 2 роки тому

    Cool AF!

  • @fobbitoperator3620
    @fobbitoperator3620 2 роки тому

    The A-10 is the 410's grandkid!

  • @lastunctives2095
    @lastunctives2095 2 роки тому

    Had an air fix model of it during the 70s had a massive air force - but this one stuck out as my least favourite in it's areodynamics .

  • @joebloggs8422
    @joebloggs8422 2 роки тому

    There’s a Hornet in the RAF museum Cosford, lovely looking plane

  • @oveidasinclair982
    @oveidasinclair982 2 роки тому +4

    Not much info on the 410's anti tank roll, as a night fighter it could have been deadly to the UK's Landcasters if they guided in by ground radar controllers especially with that 50mm cannon.

  • @evill01
    @evill01 2 роки тому +2

    My favorite plane in war thunder so far

  • @theprojectproject01
    @theprojectproject01 2 роки тому

    Once again, we see that 'If it looks right, it is right.' Beautiful airframe; I wonder how it would do with a pair of turboprop mills. I bet it'd go like a scalded cat.

  • @99PMoon
    @99PMoon 2 роки тому

    It reminds me of my beloved A-10 Warthog.

  • @lazyboylarry4345
    @lazyboylarry4345 11 місяців тому +1

    He said, "the bomb bay capacity was LIMITED to 2200 TONS." 😆😄

  • @juncondoonflanjacontose7399
    @juncondoonflanjacontose7399 Рік тому +1

    Such a beautiful aircraft.

  • @russingle1340
    @russingle1340 2 роки тому +2

    Wow! 2200 ton bomb load and on top of beating all those badass polish bi planes too.I guess the brits were lucky to have those awesome hurricanes and spitfires

    • @ae1586
      @ae1586 2 роки тому

      Lol that’s like Pilatus pc12 being compared to a cub or Cessna 152. One cruises at 105 knots and the other stalls at 120 lolol

  • @ghandimauler
    @ghandimauler 2 роки тому

    How exactly do you deploy a mortar from an underwing mount? Is the mount hard mounted? If not, how did you aim it? And when you are flying a couple of hundred km/hr, you can't reasonabgly fire forward like a normal cannon, can you? Seems the air resistance immediately after launch would kibosh the idea right from the start. Do you know how this was meant to be employed?
    Mortars are typically arcing, limited-velocity, slow firing tube artillery weapon.
    As to efficacy, the B-17s and other 4-engine bombers, before fighter air cover went with them, was generally poor. Bombers are bigger and slower than even heavy fighters and are thus at high risk vs. enemy fighters of all sorts. So the He 410 would have been bad for them, but so were all the fighters - ones with 7.92mm MGs, 20mm cannons, and the heavier canon of the He 410. And given how many of the fighters engaging bombers were other types of fighters, I'll bet they took down the majority of the bombers (the ones flak didn't get).
    Once fast moving fighters like the P-51 or P-51 or the other allied fighters were in play, they'd make it hard for German fighters to take careful, fully-effective attack runs or they'd engage the German fighters ahead of the bomber formation with the idea to destroy or drive off the German fighters. That strategy worked against the more nimble and fast German fighters, but any 'heavy fighter' would get a good spanking from the fast moving allied fighters.
    It's a kind of purpose built tool, but by the time strategic bombers could have the range to hit key German targets with fighter support were in play, the He 410, even in heavier numbers, would not have changed the eventual fate.
    Taking on Russia and the rest of Europe in one go wasn't the best basic strategy. The Allies didn't love the Russians so if the Germans had just hammered them until they crushed the Russians, the Allies would probably have sat around.

  • @neondystopian
    @neondystopian 2 роки тому

    That's a sexy plane.

  • @rabidmidgeecosse1336
    @rabidmidgeecosse1336 2 роки тому +14

    how about the He219 UHU now that was a pretty aircraft, very effective too, but it never really went anywhere, (which is just as well cause it could catch a mosquito)

    • @JUNKERS488
      @JUNKERS488 2 роки тому +7

      The HE-219 was light years ahead of it's time. It was the first aircraft to have and use an ejection seat. 1 HE219 pilots life was saved twice by the use of the seat. Plus, she packed a punch you would not want to be above or IN front of it. Lol. I loved the camo patterns of the different 219's as well. I used to build 1/32 static Luftwaffe displays for museums and high end collectors and the 219 was one of my favorites. The cockpit alone is so much cleaner looking than other aircraft of the time. No wires running everywhere like on other cockpits. Even the landing gear is cool one of the few tri-cycle type which helps against ground looping during landing. The next closest Luftwaffe aircraft would have been the JU388. I wish they could have kept designing and building the Luftwaffe aircraft at the same pace and direction they were going with these amazing planes. Please don't miss understand me I'm Very Happy the war ended as well as the Nazi party. But, I love Luftwaffe aircraft the things they built and tried along with the speed and advancements in flight was amazing.

    • @johngalt3969
      @johngalt3969 2 роки тому

      @@JUNKERS488 the specializations mismatched the needs, the most advanced tank of the war was the Panther with its l veiled turret able to fire at a tank at full speed and return an accurate shot, that might have been devastating in offense but the tiger was better for defense, and when it was disabled it was too complicated to fix. A lot of t ch advances at the wrong time for Germany, miss-matched needs

    • @tricosteryl
      @tricosteryl 2 роки тому

      Yes the Uhu is also one of my favorites.
      So modern, in many aspects.
      I think this airvraft could have been a real success.
      And technically it was.
      Good aerodynamics, perfect design for the task, performances, terrible punch of long barreled 6x20mm, equipment...
      Doomed by politics, ideology, and lobbying... lucky was the free world !

  • @opoxious1592
    @opoxious1592 2 роки тому +4

    Do you guys also have a weak spot for 2 engine fighter bombers?
    I love all WW2 types of fighterbombers, like the P-38 lightning

    • @ImWallace799
      @ImWallace799 Рік тому

      Hey, I'm a twin engine small plane fan, mainly pe 2, tu 2 and me 410. We like them because they always look cool.

  • @LordVulcan93
    @LordVulcan93 2 роки тому +1

    I use this in World of Warplanes. It's pretty awesome.

    • @fedupgamer9075
      @fedupgamer9075 2 роки тому

      So do I, it's my favorite German aircraft. Ironically the ME 210 at T5 is not a bad aircraft in game.

  • @Rusty_Gold85
    @Rusty_Gold85 2 роки тому

    Would be good to know what squadrons had them and where they were operating on what airfields in what numbers?

  • @0Turbox
    @0Turbox 2 роки тому

    Most sophisticated looking plane of the war. Two 30 mm guns would be more than enough for shooting down bombers, thought.

  • @franz.isler799
    @franz.isler799 2 роки тому

    Great feature and period aerial documentary videos featuring the Me 210 and of course, the Me 410 Hornisse.
    BUT...
    (2:40) in common usage for the other side -- it is "fatherland" (Vaterland)..not "motherland."
    (4:34) bomb load is 2200 lbs.(not tons).
    (6:17) what's going on--shooting a "captured" P-51 while in training?
    (7:04) Thanks for featuring also the 2 X side-mounted half-teardrop-shaped Ferngerichtete Drehringseitenlafette FDSL 131/1B remotely operated turret. Never seen that one being moved around remotely. Good protection for the vulnerable rear angle of the 410 Hornisse.
    It unfortunately doesn't change the fact that Messerschmitt created two of the most disliked Luftwaffe (and least successful) heavy fighters of WW2.

  • @jmanj3917
    @jmanj3917 2 роки тому +1

    Just goes to show that technology doesn't win wars; People, and the decisions they make, are what wins (or loses) wars.

  • @danicalifornia505
    @danicalifornia505 2 роки тому

    Did these ever go head to head with the P-38 lightning? And if so what one had the overall advantage?

  • @robbybee70
    @robbybee70 2 роки тому +1

    title: Wrecking Tanks
    instances of plane destroying tanks in video: 0

  • @catfish8758
    @catfish8758 2 роки тому

    Where do you find all of this footage

  • @admiral_alman8671
    @admiral_alman8671 2 роки тому +1

    In warthunder this thing is OP in tank battles

  • @ginli2567
    @ginli2567 2 роки тому

    The fighting footage looks exactly like how i play that plane in war thunder, lagging when tracking, and just flanked by another spitfire ;;

    • @astrafaan
      @astrafaan 2 роки тому

      Knowing WT the spitfire is probably on your side ;)

  • @marchellochiovelli7259
    @marchellochiovelli7259 2 роки тому +1

    Almost as gorgeous as the UHU night fighter.

  • @yakitaki26
    @yakitaki26 2 роки тому

    I used this in war thunder, very effective aircraft

  • @markscheffer3580
    @markscheffer3580 2 роки тому

    Where is it wrecking tanks .....? Love the commentry.

  • @stanfrymann8454
    @stanfrymann8454 2 роки тому +5

    "limited to 2200 tons"....some bomb load ! (9:24) Just think if they hadn't limited it!

  • @CONTACTLIGHTTOMMY
    @CONTACTLIGHTTOMMY 2 роки тому

    Proofreading. Yes...it's important.

  • @duncanidaho2097
    @duncanidaho2097 2 роки тому

    I would like to have heard if this beast actually was used like on the Eastern front to smash tanks, as the Allies had control of the air. It would need fighter cover to do any good in a ground attack role. Guess the Mustangs and Thunderbolts made life difficult.

  • @herbertrivera3638
    @herbertrivera3638 2 роки тому

    grate achievement the a10 ......ancestor

  • @dysnomia-anarchia
    @dysnomia-anarchia 2 роки тому

    What was the ersatz part or material?

  • @caseyrush4072
    @caseyrush4072 2 роки тому

    You should do the henschal

  • @jimsheldonswe7846
    @jimsheldonswe7846 2 роки тому

    Don’t think he meant 2200 ton bomb load. Nice vid.

  • @Duraltia
    @Duraltia 2 роки тому

    @05:50 _Ersatzmaterial_ = *Alternate* / Replacement / Spare Material - Given the context probably something of lower quality alternate material not quite right for the job like a screw made out of Brass instead out of Steel or a Gasket made out of Cloth instead of Rubber.

  • @cavemanbum
    @cavemanbum 2 роки тому

    4:34 - 2200 tons?
    Ooof! That's quite a bomb load!

  • @rodneycooperLMSCoach
    @rodneycooperLMSCoach 2 роки тому

    So that's where the idea for the A10 warthog came from.

  • @shawnbeckmann1847
    @shawnbeckmann1847 2 роки тому

    2200 tons?? That damn airplane could carry a Fletcher class destroyer almost ....wow German technology is impressive

  • @letoubib21
    @letoubib21 2 роки тому +13

    2200 tons bombs?! What a great bomber! The Allies didn't have anything equal, did they?

    • @leonardmiyata482
      @leonardmiyata482 2 роки тому +1

      Closest thing would be a twin engine Beechcraft attack aircraft, the XA-38 Grizzly, which was equipped with a 75mm auto loading cannon. Unfortunately, the aircraft used the same engines as the much higher priority production project, the B-29.
      One of the prototype A-26 was equipped with the 75mm cannon as a bomber destroyer, but never went into production
      And there was a paper design proposal to equip a P-38 with the auto loading 75mm, but that proposal never saw the light of day

    • @fishjohn014
      @fishjohn014 2 роки тому

      @@leonardmiyata482 hes making a sarcastic comment about the narrator's misspoken details

    • @lambastepirate
      @lambastepirate 2 роки тому

      I have seen else where that they never used it as a bomber the doors went from the front of the fuselage to almost the back of the cockpit. They said when they opened the bomb bay doors it became nearly unflyable! It was capable of carrying the 2,200 lbs of bombs though they never let them attempt bombing in combat

    • @halogeek6
      @halogeek6 2 роки тому

      We wouldn't get anything close till the Hercules. And that ficker is still flying warzones today!

    • @lambastepirate
      @lambastepirate 2 роки тому

      As for the allies yes the Mosquito 4,000lbs the A-26 invader 6,000lbs and others.

  • @jbauern57
    @jbauern57 2 роки тому

    Where do you find these films?

  • @dylanp_ayz8016
    @dylanp_ayz8016 2 роки тому

    This my favorite plane to fly in War Thunder.

  • @samcoon6699
    @samcoon6699 2 роки тому

    2200 tons......wow....thats a lot of bombs....

  • @Bramon83
    @Bramon83 2 роки тому +3

    I so love dark skies

  • @peetsnort
    @peetsnort 2 роки тому +1

    Only one mistake... 2200 ton load.
    But that's understandable.
    Just a typo.
    You have made a good video of a plane i never knew about.
    I wonder if that swivel gun on the side worked properly. Because its arc of fire was stupendous.

    • @ImWallace799
      @ImWallace799 Рік тому +1

      Only soul in this comment section to understand that it was a mistake

  • @edwardkelly5625
    @edwardkelly5625 2 роки тому

    Interesting how the BK5 cannon mounted....the A-10 WARTHOG is very similar with its VULCAN cannon....

  • @jackmann9031
    @jackmann9031 2 роки тому

    Without TOTAL air superiority, this thing was a sitting duck.

  • @danielgreen3715
    @danielgreen3715 2 роки тому

    Interesting plane Some Bomb load! Haha ..Was Kurt Tank involved in this project also?

  • @davidbeattie4294
    @davidbeattie4294 2 роки тому +1

    The Bf 110 didn't battle the US 8th AF at night. The US was committed to daytime precision bombing. The RAF flew at nite and the Bf 110 was extremely effective against the un-escorted and poorly armed British night bombers. On a side note, the Spitfire was not used for long range bomber escort into Germany. It lacked the range. P-38s could reach Berlin in 1943 and eventually P47's gained the range to provide escort at least part of the way as well.

  • @user-ex4si2md6r
    @user-ex4si2md6r 8 місяців тому

    An amazing video of Germany's last ditch effort to build a heavy hitter and try to get an advantage

  • @micksedunary7304
    @micksedunary7304 2 роки тому +1

    And the 210 had a 2,200 ton restriction on its bomb load ...? - Wow never knew that either.....

  • @snakemanmike
    @snakemanmike 2 роки тому

    He really said that the ME 210 's bomb capacity was limited to twenty two HUNDRED TONS. WOW. 4.14 millions pounds.

  • @docholliday7157
    @docholliday7157 2 роки тому

    4:35 - "limited to 2,200 TONS"?!!???
    I'm pleased you guys have narrator's now, it's time to get some editors.

  • @majorkursk780
    @majorkursk780 2 роки тому +3

    Do any ME410 examples exist in any accessible museums or collections?

    • @joeclaridy
      @joeclaridy 2 роки тому +2

      I would hope so

    • @Pixy335
      @Pixy335 2 роки тому +2

      At least one is still in existence. In Duxford if I remember correctly.

    • @jadensweetwood9246
      @jadensweetwood9246 2 роки тому +4

      I think their is one at the Smithsonian. I know I've seen one somewhere

    • @andyc3088
      @andyc3088 2 роки тому +3

      @@Pixy335 it's at the Royal Air Force Museum Cosford

  • @karlk6860
    @karlk6860 2 роки тому

    On a lot of points John below is correct with his comments. The 410 with its big gun was seen as the perfect weapon to know bombers down and it might have been but when the P51 came on the scene the bombers had escort all to the way to and from their targets and the 410 was essentially a coffin for its crew when it had to deal with enemy fighters. What little they did fly as night fighters was marginal but in emergencies they would tell them to go up during the day and darned few returned. Pretty much it evolved into an almost complete failure for the Germans

  • @owen368
    @owen368 2 роки тому

    Seems to have been missed by most but comment about bf110 became night fighter and fought the us army air corp, well when in desperation they they were used against the daylight raids they did. At night they hunted Stirlings ,Halifax, Lancasters and other aircraft of the RAF as most of there bombing was done at night due to high losses during the day.