🌏 Get Exclusive NordVPN deal here ➼ nordvpn.com/whativelearned It's risk-free with Nord's 30-day money-back guarantee! ✌ Hope y'all find this one interesting! Rob and I's full talk was much longer, but to make it more digestible, I've isolated this section regarding his hypothetical pathogenesis model for just this video. For the record, Rob was extra careful in our full discussion to not present this model in a way that makes people overconfident in it - while it's very interesting and I think it's worth investigating, it's not a magic bullet for everyone. Hopefully the information discussed here is useful for you, but don't take it as a reason to not try or investigate other promising interventions as well.
Love your channel and interested in the full interview, too! Have you considered uploading the full interviews (like the Jordan Peterson one) to a second channel?
I can't believe how refreshing it is to hear a professional say "we don't know enough yet". So sick of all these grifters taking advantage of vulnerable people.
The irony if this - the guy in this video is a literal grifter. I am typing this as someone who is experiencing hair loss, and does not wish for anyone to be duped into trying such nonsense and lose more hair. The only tested, proved remedies, are: finasteride, minoxidil, and micro-needling. The notion that blood flow, circulation, or posture has ANYTHING to do with hairloss is completely imaginary.
The 25 minute mark was an absolute delight. Robs transparency about the limited Evidence for his hypothesis is the epitome of how scientific communication should look like. Too many scientific communicators take unsubstantiated but compelling hypotheses and run with them without establishing their evidence legitimacy
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:12 🤔 Rob English proposes a unique hypothesis for why hair loss happens, addressing the relationship between DHT and hair growth in different areas of the body. 00:27 💡 Rob shares techniques for hair regrowth that are accessible and not behind a paywall. 00:41 📚 Rob's paper on his hair loss model was accepted into an academic journal, and he now serves as a journal editor in the field. 03:59 🧪 Rob proposes a hypothetical pathogenesis model for hair loss that considers various factors such as inflammation, blood supply, and muscle tension. 05:25 🔬 Low blood flow in the scalp may be a consequence of hair loss, but there might also be anatomical triggers contributing to the reduction in blood and oxygen supply. 08:39 ⛓️ Rob's model suggests that chronic tension from scalp muscles could lead to inflammation, causing DHT to accumulate in balding scalp sites and induce scar tissue formation. 09:19 🧠 The pattern of tension across the scalp might align with the rapidity and location of male pattern hair loss, while changes in head size can model the tension pattern of female pattern hair loss. 11:50 🤔 Botox injections to relax scalp muscles have shown improvements in hair density and halted/improved hair loss. 12:20 💉 Clinical trials have demonstrated a 75% response rate to Botox injections in terms of stopping or improving hair loss in individuals with androgenic alopecia. 13:56 📚 Multiple studies have shown an 80% response rate and an 18-21% increase in hair counts after intramuscular injections of Botox over a 6 to 10 month period. 14:37 🎯 Scalp tension and scalp muscles offer a unique target for addressing hair loss outside of the typical drug model. 15:05 📊 Combining Botox with medications like Finasteride may have a synergistic effect, leading to a significant increase in hair count. 15:46 🧠 Scalp tightness may be influenced by various factors, including genetics, jaw development, and androgen exposure during early development. 16:56 🤷 The exact cause of scalp muscle tension is not fully understood, but studies indicate that tight scalps are more common among individuals with androgenic alopecia. 17:41 ❓ Botox injections may improve hair density by potentially increasing blood flow and oxygen levels in the scalp, although more research is needed to confirm this mechanism. 19:17 🌬️ Low blood flow and oxygen levels in balding regions of the scalp may create an environment where dihydrotestosterone (DHT) is favored and expressed at higher levels. 19:59 🤝 Low oxygen environments seem to promote hair loss and the conversion of testosterone into DHT, potentially contributing to the progression of androgenic alopecia. 22:16 💆 Scalp massages and acute inflammation exercises may lead to hair regrowth by targeting scalp relaxation and inflammation generation. 24:36 🤝 Standardized scalp massages have shown promising results in improving hair thickness and regrowth, with a time-dependent increase in effectiveness. 26:25 📚 Scalp massages are currently supported by survey-based studies and anecdotal evidence, with the mechanisms behind their effectiveness still speculative. 27:49 📈 Extended use of scalp massages has shown slow but significant improvements in hair counts for a portion of individuals over one to three years. 28:47 💊 Scalp massages can be an alternative for individuals who do not respond well to FDA-approved drugs like finasteride and minoxidil.
Must appreciate the fact that instead of just posting the interview, he actually edited and illustrated all the important points so that everything becomes clear for us, the viewers. This is the kind of high-end content i will always go to. 🙏🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
He sells an expensive membership for massages that have no scientific evidence. No massages for free. Another meat eater selling stuff. The website selected testimonies hide the end results, which is a worsening of their conditions. Search the video Rob English (Perfect Hair Health). Worst of the hair loss industry
My Korean hairstylist for years has been telling to me massage my crown to help with thinning hair in that area, and it worked for me! Glad to learn it's being investigated more seriously
@@jewelbency5072 He has some paid membership type stuff, but I got the massage routine for free. It's available to everyone at no charge, or at least it was when I did it
The extra information in the comments section is just fantastic. Thanks to everyone who shared their personal experiences and what worked or didn’t work for them. You all are amazing.
Our bodies prioritize damage and inflammation over hair growth. Everytime I'm having gut issues I notice my hair is thinner and drier. When my gut is thriving and I'm well hydrated I noticed my hair grows, looks fuller and shinier.
@@jss.2020 No I mean if you have inflammation long enough your body will focus on healing and you may lose hair, skin health etc. Because it's now prioritizing the healing process not so much growing hair.
wow! I'm a woman who has bruxism. It got MUCH worse after I got invisalign-like braces. I got chronic tension in my jaw, temples, neck, etc. I also started to get mild hair loss. I would have never put the two together without this guy!
Improved my bruxism with ''Mewing''. Keeping the tongue on the roof of the mouth as a newly adopted resting posture. This chanel has a video on it. You can also look up the work of Dr. Mike Mew on orthotropics.
Bruxism is often a result of malnutrition, lacking certain vitamins or minerals in your diet. Things like vitamin B-5, calcium, magnesium, potassium, and vitamin C. This is part of the reason why it’s so common among vegans and vegetarians. The B vitamins are particularly hard to get in these diets. I’ve found making sure I’ve eaten enough nutrient dense food in a day, and not letting my room be too hot at night helps a lot to reduce my bruxism.
Neck mobility exercises To fix forward head posture and muscle imbalance fixed my hair loss which can be evident throughout daily hair count texture and volume also your scalp has a uniform shape now due to the released scalp muscle tension (no more stress temporal lines and your scalp is moving freely) As the scalp muscle tension is a second order effect of shoulder,neck and back muscle tension due to overall muscle imbalance between chest and back which causes forward head posture on the long run. Exercises 1-Inverted head massage using silicone massager 2-Forward Head posture exercises 3-Neck mobility side to side and head movements in all direction (Swivel head exercise) 4-Walking up right with straight spine
@@qwertmom Mainly tilt your head downwards and start massaging around head muscles i use a silicone massager for better grip and efficiency Another way to do it is lay on bed where your head it outside the bed frame and free from support and do the same massage with silicone massagers one with your face looking at the ceiling and the other with your head looking on the floor
Its fascinating to me how every time we discover something relating to the human body theres always a degree of traditional wisdom that applies, like we all have this concept that if you get too stressed your hair will fall off, and turns out it does have some influence
Probably because humans have great pattern recognition skills. We always saw how those who were more stressed lost hair, but we just didn’t separate the factors and test it before. Same way we know “don’t eat smelly meat”. We noticed because who ate the smelly meat got sick.
Rob is well-spoken and im really glad he understands the hiearchy of evidence, importance of study population and extrapolation. And also the abscence of paywall is a plus.
@@JackTheStrippa Corporate paywalls are often legitimate, though research is most times public-funded, so adding a paywall only goes against the mission of a university towards the wider public. If it's a private institution, things are different, though most private universities are no-profits anyway, so I don't see a reason to support generalised paywalls.
@@JackTheStrippa Research which has already been paid for by institutions/states, and profited by publishers. Authors don't get anything, just "prestige" and the privilege of not having to deal with actual humans.
This is honestly game changer and conforms a lot of my observations with my own hair loss and hair growth journey. If I could add something that the video left out it's that improving my posture, specifically my forward head posture significantly improved my scalp tightness. That coupled with scalp massages and microneedling made my hair go from a wispy mess to a thick mane, and a lot of my Norwood is slowly reversing.
I was having this same thought as I watched. I had whiplash and chronic neck pain and after 20 years, I'm working at helping my neck again with acupuncture, massage, etc. and I'm noticing profound effects, even a different in my appetite. The muscles, tendons, fascia, are all connected, so a tight scalp could easily be a result of something down the chain.
@@justsomeguywithnoeyes7303 I did it at home after a bit of researching techniques (there's a lot of youtube tutorials that show you how to do it), and what not. First, leave the microneedle in a cup with isoproly 70% alchohol to steralize it, then I hop in the shower and shampoo my hair and massaging my scalp to make sure its clean and ready to dermaroll. Once my head is dry, using 1.5mm dermaroller I press firmly and go in straight lines thru most of my scalp, 1 or 2 times horizontally, then again vertically. Takes about 10 minutes to go thru all the areas in top of your head. Then I just wash my head with water and sterilize the dermaroller again before putting it away. I did this like every 1-3 weeks, and still do. I don't recommend it for everybody, especially if you have low pain tolerance (does get easier tho, the more you do it) or if you aren't meticulous with disinfecting it and making sure none of the needles are bent (get a new one if it happens.) It does a lot though, it eases some of the muscle tension, it promotes blood flow, increases collagen production in the area.
That's what I was thinking. Poor posture is known to lead to tense neck and restricted blood flow. Why are victims of hair loss seem to be getting younger and more common? I'm guessing its due to this generation s poor posture aka tech neck.
He is the most thorough and concurrent to the evidence I've been finding by my own experience. Although I object tension to be mechanical but chemical/metabolic. I think pattern baldness is an excellent topic to analyze how nerves and neurotransmitters associated with muscle tension also affect, gradually but consistently, conjunctive tissue, like skin, collagen, tendons and even certain organs. Because tissues like the fascia are not that different from muscle cells, so it's logical to think "constractans" and "relaxants" have a direct and lasting effect on connective tissue that ulteriorly ends up affecting the overall health of the body.
head massage is fine, just dont do the neck... same with indonesia, some barbershop also provide head massage but usually also with neck bending stuff which scary
So, what should we do to stop hairloss & regrow hair? 1) massage the scalp perimeter through scalp presses 2) acute inflammation along the top of your head via specific skin pinches and presses and stretches
This is also completely anecdotal but when the video mentioned that simply hand massaging can reduce stress in the muscles in the skull and the scalp, I tried it out on my tight, tight back from the all-nighter before today's exam and damn, massaging does work excellently. It's almost obvious now how my parents asked me to massage their back or legs after a long day and it literally relaxed them and the muscle I was massaging but I didn't connect the ideas that I could self-massage for flexibility and fitness purposes. I'm just writing this down so I don't forget this!
Try a really hot bath, like a sento / onsen in Japan. Walked 10km+ in one day with sore legs and it melts away in minutes in a hot bath. It needs to be a deep bath though.
amazing info, i rem from 25 to 35 always wondering why my head skin was so sore/tight. now i have been trying many different technique and foods. The fastest ever moment i noticed extreme hair growth was when i had a super physical job that burnt me out, i had to quit but i was amazed at my hair regrowth!
Your one of the few that does quality right on this platform I don’t even know if you were at 300 thousand or a million when I followed you but you seem like you would naturally grow to whatever success you reach. Your one of the few that does quality right on this platform and for that I salute
Scalp tension thing makes sense. My father has full black hair at 63 now. He has chronic overly chill problem i never seen him being tense at anything. His friends make fun of him for having super chill face.
It's all about circulation, which is why most of the medication for hair loss works like high blood pressure medicine by dilating the blood vessels which in turn would relax the muscles and de-constrict the blood vessels allowing more oxygen to get to the hair follicles which will allow them to grow . Blood moving freely will also relax the body
This is 3rd or 4th video that I've seen from you that introduces me to some everyday applicable knowledge, that changed the way I behave or has changed my life for the better, I really want to thank you for all your hard work and hope to see more.
I long a time ago I suspected that scalp massage prevents and helps hair grow. I suspected it after reading a book about it written by two ladies that they did not really understand why or how. Their premise was the stimulation of the scalp by the use of a home made scalp lotion. I suspected the lotion was unnecessary and what was important was the massage. Because of laziness, I rarely did the massage, but now I think I should try it again. It only takes about 5 to 10 mins (I think); we can do it while watching this video.
I really like how Rob manages to list run off so many stats and figures yet manages to say so engaged. He is so passionate about what he does. It it very inspiring!
20:00 makes sense, since when people have Peripheral Artery/Vascular Disease, they tend to have poorer bloodflow (and therefore oxygenation) to the legs and often end up with leg hair loss and tight shiny skin
In terms of head massages, women know that if you massage your head upside down for 3 minutes daily then your hair will grow thicker and also regrow, especially using rosemary essential oil. On that, I have an very old yoga book, published in the 60’s that has a yoga move that allows you to grow thick luxurious hair. I think that is amazing. I was telling a woman I know about and she told me that she had an adopted sister that slept in a strange position with her head upside down and had thick luxurious hair.
@@leo5053 That book, if I still have it, is in the depths of my garage "somewhere". It basically says that any upside down yoga position will do it, as seen by the girl who slept upside down. Goodness only knows what her upside-down sleeping position looked like. I am sorry I just would not recall the name of the book either. I would doubt that there were that many yoga books written in the 60's though so you could look around in book archive sites.
@@WhatIveLearned It's basically a "twitch(online game streaming platform" phrase used when someone missplays and gets angry. MAD and Balding so he's MALDING xD
@@perfectpitch2506 that's very interesting as it says "Stress is the silent killer" I wonder how one would relieve tension in their forehead, meditation?
Without any academic backing, my initial impression is that the scalp massages stimulates the lymphatic system. This helps reduce the amount of free radicals in the scalp and reduces inflammation, thus increasing hair count
My great grandpa who passed away at the age of 103 was the laziest human i ever knew haha, he really took his time, would take him hours to finish breakfast, he used to take naps laying on the lawn, never stressed about anything, if he didn't slip and fall on the ice he would have pulled off several years more i'm sure.
I like this channel. Covering fringe science and letting us make our own decisions about how to act. For example, you make videos covering hypotheses about the role inflammation might hypothetically play in various conditions. Whether or not inflammation really plays a role, there's basically zero downside to eating a diet with less inflammatory foods so no harm done.
This video is amazing from all points of view. He even admits they don't know enough to confirm his theory, even though there is significant evidence of it being true and it's the best model we currently have that fits better than just the DHT-only model.
Cus Derek and Kevin are heavily evidence and science based when it comes to their videos and research. They will disprove this guy's theories. It's DHT, DHT is the culprit not scalp tension. Through stress can contribute.
He sells an expensive membership for massages that have no scientific evidence. No massages for free. Another meat eater selling stuff. The website selected testimonies hide the end results, which is a worsening of their conditions. Search the video Rob English (Perfect Hair Health). Worst of the hair loss industry
Explain hair transplants surviving where the original hair died...wouldn't the same thing happen to transplanted hair if this theory was true? Don't stop proven hair restoration therapys for now...
@@careycrews1 I think when people receive a hair transplant they usually also get put on finasteride, i.e. the most common drug against hairloss. @shindig9000 any results?
I did microneedling for about half a year on my scalp and used minoxidil every other day. My hair regrew quite a lot. On the before and after pics i'd even go as far as to say that the haircount doubled in the areas that were most affected. It's quite painful at first because the studies i've seen ask for 1.5mm needles that really need to penetrate the skin, but the effects are undeniable. I can definitely recommend it to anyone but you have to stay consistent and can't start slacking because it's uncomfortable. Also i recommend you don't get a dermaroller with too many needles, as those tend to rip the skin a lot and be more painful. I'd go for around 200-400 1.5mm needles on the roller. Edit: link to before & after pics in the comments
Dermarolling tears skin more than dermastamping, be careful with minoxidil it brings back hair but destroy other youthful features, it depletes collagen in face and can cause dark under eyes.
I was bullied in 10th grade because I had a bald spot. I saw a dermatologist and was put on Propecia and Rogaine at the age of 15. It helped me keep most of my hair, but side effects were massive.
This is better then any treatment in the whole medical history i have tried this for 3 years and i was able to restore 90 % of my hair although nowadays I don’t get enough time to practice it so again i am where i was before.
Matthew McConaughey says he massages ointment into his scalp for 10 minutes a day and that fixed his hair. I wondered if it was Minoxidil but hearing this the massaging is next level. Maybe over the counter Minoxidil with massages combined with fasting and keto is the play.
I have been studying Vitamin K2 and calcification of the arteries. I also noted that Vitamin D3 without K2 puts calcium everywhere in the body. K2 MK7 tells the body to put the calcium in the bones. Japanese people who have long lives eat Natto which is 1000mcg of K2 per serving. My guess is that prostate enlargement and inflammation of the bladder may be caused by excess calcium in the bladder and prostate causing inflammation. My question is if this may also be causing baldness in the same way. I will let you know about my prostate. I am taking 400mcg a day for the last two weeks. If my theory is correct all prostate and bladder issues should be gone within 6 to 8 weeks.
One thing I noticed. Both my grandfathers were WW2 survivors. They fought in different parts and had many former soldier friends, and not only soldier, but also labor camps survivors etc. I remember as kid when they had gatherings and reunions. I also have hundreds of pictures of them. I noticed that there was barely any baldness among them even in their 80s and 90s. Off course some had not perfect hairlines, and hairs were thinner, but loads of them had perfect hairs. Grey or salt and pepper colour like. When I look through pictures of my grandfathers and also their friends when they were in their 40s or 50s, they all have like perfect thick hairs. These days we have a lot of even 20 years old guys that are bald. And no I am not referring to juicers in the gym.
Chronic stress is through the roof in our societies, resulting in chronic tension. The fact that, despite going through hell and back, they had eachother back then to relate their lives and problems to probably played a significant role in being able deal with the tension in their lives throughout their lives.
I personally think...the food quality has been degrading... From veg to nonveg...from air to water... quality has been degrading a lot... Reasons pollution... fertilizers in farm... Etc
Massage definitely reduces itch and shedding for me. The dermatologist sees less inflammation. It makes sense that it would help. I believe it at least slows hair loss, but I’m not convinced it helps regrow much hair. So start early.
I am beginning to be a believer. Although male alopecia is supposed to be inherited by the mother’s side, I send this vid to my (very scientifically materialistic) father, telling him: « We might have a way/ an issue! ». He answered to me only five minutes later (which told me he hadn’t seen the video), saying : « This seems ludicrous! Not quite scientific... ». He also pointed chemical reactions he knew that would favor alopecia in a genetic and definitive way. (This, again, made me though that he had not seen the whole video.) Then, I started to massage my scalp 3 weeks ago. I got the most of the technique out of the Web (note : rob’s site is probably spot on, but I din’t like the « as seen on TV approach offered on the web site, meaning that you’ll only know (I suppose) about what it cost after receiving several emails ending on a pooooor undeserved cliff hanger. I did not like to think of that sympathetic researcher as a full-on busy-business well-being developper. So I found what I wad looking for elsewhere: i.e.: on channels of those having benefited from the scalp-massages. Soon enough, I bought myself a 20 $CAD vibrating brush for the scalp and integrated it to my routine (which is anywhere from 3 to 10 minutes each day, divided in 2 or 3 times). SO : after a month and a half having exercised my scalp, which includes a 2-week integration of an electric brush, I am happy to report something like a 10% increase of my hair volume. This is especially verifiable on my forehead where my GF and I could easily see that the hair is now going way lower towards my nose, and also - mainly! - there are two 50/50 lengths of hair : the longest, which are hair shave a mouth and a half ago; and all the other (as much as the previous !) : half of the previous.... leaving me to think that these are knew hair. Starting as of today, I am gonna take pictures, hoping that my father will remain speechless for a few hours for once in his life!
@@Muffles Still growing, but I had a treatment that reversed the effect for a while (like 4 months). Overall, people I haven’t seen in a while are noticing the new hair up there. I’d say that some spots seem to react slower than others (it seems, in fact, that it goes the other way around the loss : I’m getting back my hair where I lastly lost it, etc.). The brush I use is a fairly common type found on Amazon. I selected one with a vibration function, but I’m pretty sure I would get a similar result with a manual one. The other great aspect is the loss of dandruffs spots. I tend to think that the main factor for both benifices is a better blood circulation within the scalp.
I’ve been doing this to my self for months since I’ve noticed my temporalis muscle has been extra swollen this. I’ve noticed my hair is growing back, so i searched for this on UA-cam. I think that if you survived as a child by dissociating with your feelings, and you are doing the work to process that trauma. Your body starts showing different signs of your body processing with the brain.
Some food for thought, a hypothesis: as we age some people have the head posture moves forward. For every inch forward it applies about 10 lbs (the weight of the head) the pressure to the spinal column... I know because I'm having traction done to correct my neck... I also know that muscles don't tighten by accident, the nervous system is telling it to do so, thus the forward head posture puts pressure on the nerves. When the discussion about the muscles in the forehead would tighten... it got me thinking... perhaps this is related?
@@jedrashidul6952 Thank you for noticing my comment and letting me know. And it seems to me that this could be the tip of an iceberg... How many _more_ things could be like this? As a PT & Muscular therapist... I don't know how much you see/know in chiropractic care... but briefly, it helps me live a life pain free, but if I miss for a long time, like happened in the pandemic lockdowns, I had a lot of lower back, neck, thoracic, all over pain and stiffness... but it was amazing how quickly it was resolved with adjustments... practically in minutes to hours, and a few took a week or so, but I mean most were instant! So the nervous systems is in control, and "form" follows "function" in the body. Like the neck and the ANS firing muscles to stabilize it... while I am not a medical person, this is what I've experienced first hand and I realize that I am not physically that exceptional of an individual so I don't see why it shouldn't apply to many people. I hope that you can do something groundbreaking with this hypothesis, BTW: I've also mentioned it to my Chiropractor (Intern at Life West Chiropractic College) and he thought it was interesting as well. Thanks, and have a great day.
Bingo! At 30 I upset my C5 neck disc and got chronic neck pain. Bumped the back of my head and upset the nerves in the scalp. I had a tight band around the head headaches. Never had a history. I felt everything improved when I start training the muscles in the back of the head. Stay off those phones!!! And got out and play!
Yup exactly which created the low oxygen environment in scalp Main thing!!! Do mewing!! Look up mike mew cheesy swallow! And chew gum! And DONT GET ORTHO WORK OR BRACES
Pattern baldness runs in my family, and I had thinning hair from I was in my early teens. Then I noticed that bald men had tight scalps. So in my twenties I decided to start stretching my scalp. The result is that forty years later, I still have most of my hair on my head.
@@josephwanjiku6853 Before I address your question, is your last name Wan? Well, I do it for a few minutes whenever I remember. Definitely no prolonged periods. Stretching consists mainly of pushing the skin together between the tips of ones fingers on both hands. My last name is Wan. That's why I asked.
Two questions, given the 2 baldness patterns (male / female) and female skulls being a bit smaller on average: 1. The video shows two different tension maps for men and women: the peak tension is on the sides and the crown for men, and along the central axis for women. If men and women have the same pattern of skull muscles, female skulls being somewhat smaller wouldn't change the tension map: it would be the same, just smaller for women. The map would change only if women had different distribution of skull musculature than men (I don't know). 2. There are tall women with skull size the same as men and there are shorter men with skull size the same as women. But both group still bald according to their gender pattern. For a man and a woman with the same skull size, I'd expect the same tension map, and thus the same balding pattern, which isn't the case (again: unless there's a difference in musculature)
I used to have long hair past my shoulders but unfortunately my genes kicked in. All five of my uncles on my moms side went bald pretty early. I started balding at 17 and was completely bald at 20 👴🏽
@@buttoxchewy try dandruff shampoo. Zinc pyrthione has been shown in studies to block DHT containing sebum from the hair follicles and is anti-inflammatory.
I have a head like a hard coconut. I have hair loss at the temples, supposed to be androgenetic alopecia. Biopsy says it looks like it. It started either from high fever of pneumonia in 2018 or the treatment of prednisone. Also lost eyelashes and eyebrows. They grew back with help. Before that I had a great hairline and thick hair. I also lost 70% from Covid. All that is growing back. I have been grinding my teeth for years. Recently, I've started using a scalp brush, micro needling every other day, topical finasteride, minoxidil, retinol, ketoconozole topical, shampoo with niacin, caffeine, and something I can't remember. I also started taking niacin and noticed today the flush was a line on my forehead where the missing hair is. I thought that was interesting. blood flow to the exact spot I need it. Hair is starting to grow back. I use a powder on the temples to disguise it
Relaxing of the eye tension muscles does help egg shaped eyeballs otherwise known as Astigmatism to an (even) ball shape. This does help lessen the astigmatism affect. I've been doing it for a number of years and yes, it does work. I'm no longer wearing glasses to drive or do far vision and am continuing to do exercises to help my near-sight vision. Just relaxing all muscles in your head, eyes, ears, face, neck will help you calm too.
Androgenic hair loss is quite different than the kind of hair loss. A lot of us are experiencing right now due to environmental toxins. It would be nice if you would address that in one of your other videos?
Interesting stuff. Hope they do more studies on the topic. Would be curious on why hair transplants work if these were factors in balding. Why would transplanted hair be immune to these? Also, I would like to see diet mentioned. When I started taking high levels of collagen I noticed hair regrowth.
@@drzflyest4 : I was using Great Lakes but it was a large amount (I think like 1.5x the suggested amount). And I was on a biohacking keto regiment with lots of other supplements. Give it a shot if you're interested and okay with your doctor.
But they aren't - you do realise that almost all of the hair transplant patients have to be on fin/minox for life to prevent miniaturization happening to the transplanted follicles as well? It's a chemical/hormonal makeshift dam to what this research and theory are implying is an anatomical issue (for the most part)
Exactly what I was wandering, you would expect the exact miniaturization pattern to occur on transplanted hairs, not saying Rob wouldn't have a response to this, but I wish it was addressed.
One observation I've made, and my self as an example is that it seems like the less body and facial hair you have the more hair you got on top, there has to be a connection, i am nearly 31 very little body hair, my cheeks still aren't remotely close to being full, i generally just keep a clean shaved face as i can't grow a strong beard, on the flip side i have a strong hairline, no balding at the crown what so ever, pretty much every single guy at my age in my social circle has significant hair loss to the point where some just shaved it all off. My grandfather have little body hair but an incredible hair for his age.
@@grugnotice7746 you're coping bro. Just shave it off when it gets past a certain point. Purely genetic, I've seen malnourished meth-heads with full heads of hair. If you have the gene just shave
FYI A common technique in presenting hair loss treatments is to combine the percentages for "no change" with "some change" in one percentage. My hair loss has been minor and stagnant for over a decade yet I have never used any technique or drug. Yet, by their metric, many of these methods would have claimed responsibility for my results if I been using them. The point is look for the parsed out data on hair REgrowth for a better indicator.
I want to add to this theory that high blood pressure may also cause increased inflammation in the scalp. Something to look into. I also started losing a lot of hair after wearing a construction hat really tight for a few years.
@@cabudagavin3896 High. But side note. Since I watched this I’ve noticed a change. I’ve been doing it and seems to have some results. Especially around the temple. With minoxidil.
@@interestingcomments5178 high blood pressure causes inflammation? by what mechanism? and do you think low blood pressure wouldn't cause inflammation? also when I said low blood pressure it was not inflammation I was referring to but blood supply to the crown, cheers. supposedly turgidity of blood vessels is reduced with age...
Weird, I had a full head of hair in middle school until I started playing football. As an northern born Chinese person, my head is larger than normal Americans. The coach had a hard time finding a big enough helmet for me. They gave me a xl speedflex but it was still too small. I lost 50% of my hair in 3 years.
- I don't have history of baldness in my family - I started losing my hair in my early 20s - I have had low Testosterone and high Estradiol for years - I have gynecomastia - I have history of depression and emotional distress - I have had a permanent scowl-like expression since my late teens - I have felt tension around my brows, eyes and the sides of my head - My hair loss is the typical V-pattern - I can grow a thick beard and have a lot of hair on my body I always attributed the hairloss to my wacky hormones, but this scalp tension hypothesis sounds really relatable. I think I will give the massages a try, seems like probable cause.
I'm 48, and have been having regular, almost daily head & scalp massage and gentle hair pulling/tugging since the past 20 years. It did wonders for stress, sleep, blood pressure and by the way, there was no hair loss, as I just found out from your video. I guess I'm not going to stop doing this. Everything from your video just justifies the scalp massage.
@@zed2960 Been doing scalp massages for a few years as well, after suffering from hair loss repeatatly. (I got medication from my derm in the beginning, but after stopping the medication it kept coming back) I got myself a electric scalp massager (can get the cheap silicone massage brush too of course) and I use it every other hair wash, while I have shampoo in my hair. I put some mint oil in the shampoo too. Nice side effect is, that it helps with dandruff and itchiness. My hair loss didn't come back for the last 3 years and my hair became thicker. My hairline is more full. It doesn't speed up hair growth of course, but I'm just thankful for having a full head of hair.
I am on board with trying anything that costs me nothing but some time for self care. I hesitate to use products or medications that could produce an undesirable outcome, and I don't have the $$ to throw away. I did the scalp massages while listening to this interview, and if nothing else, I feel more relaxed and got rid of a slight tension headache I didn't realize I was having😅
it will cost you something, time. Which is something most people with pattern hairloss don't have. The only smart thing to do is not to believe in anything that hasn't been tested intensively and hasn't been approved by major medical organizations like FDA as legitimate options for hair loss. The only ones right now are minoxidil and finasteride with a great safety profile.
@@phee3D propecia messed with the meibomial glands around my left eye which caused the skin under that eye to develop eczema which made me do cortisone which messed up my skin there. It took me two years to pin it down, but 6 weeks after i stopped with propecia, the eczema was gone and my glands recovered. Just sayin.
which makes sense. braiding can be seen as a type of massage blood flowing muscle relaxation technique and people that use it tend to keep hair longer 🤷🏽♂
I have heard that menthol can be used to treat hair loss and is an ingredient to some hair loss shampoos. On the wikipedia page for menthol it states, "Menthol blocks calcium channels[5] and voltage-sensitive sodium channels, reducing neural activity that may stimulate muscles." Maybe the anecdotal cases of improved hair growth from menthol are a result of the scalp muscles being relaxed and a reduction in inflammation.
probably just pattern baldness that was accelerated by telogen effluvium. TE hair loss typically grows back within a year. you should get on finasteride if you still have hair to save or if it hasn’t been too long
This makes sense, if you stressed our muscles are getting tense so it result in losing hair. Recently i have been super stressed out and i have long hair, so hair loss was super visible in amount of hair i had to take out of shower drain. I need to get some rest and relax and massage my scalp to not lose my hair
I think mouth breathing also causes hair loss as when you are mouth breathing, the tongue is no longer at the roof of the mouth supporting your upper jaw so your face tends to drop down and fall back over time which pulls down/stretches the muscles on your scalp, again causing that tension in the head just like the video is talking about. So maybe breathing through your nose and chewing hard foods to strengthen jaw muscles could help hair regrowth/prevent hair loss over time (it should be a lifetime habit). Also breathing through your nose calms you down and relaxes you more as you breath at a more slower and optimal rate. It also increases oxygen intake and filters and warms up the air you breathe.
There's a tool that positions your tongue in your mouth properly to maximize athletic performance and recovery, I think it's interesting how little things like that can be connected and give us insight into how important balance is for the body.
As a 16 yro male, my carpet was covered in hair. I was loosing hair so fast. My cousin's and uncle's are all bald. Someone told me to stop eating 'any sugar' and switch to honey. I did that and my hair stopped falling out and my hairline remains the same now as it was at 16. I'm one of the only guys in my family who is not bald. Maybe sugar is a contributing factor in hair loss? Not found any studies on that, but glad it worked for me :).
When I stopped eating sugar it took less than 2 months for sure to stop hair falling out. But thinking back to when I was 16, it was more like a week ! Even now if I forget and eat things with sugar in it, like cookies, my hair starts all over again to fall out. White and even Brown Sugar honestly does cause head hair to fall out. But Honey doesn't and I switched to it in moderation. But now I avoid eating 'any' sources of sugar. @@Mr.BlueBlur
@AndrewWithEase11 11 stress has been known to cause balding, this isn't new. But I've never heard of the missing link between the stress and the hair-loss; tension in the scalp, as when someone is stressed, they will tense up the muscles around their scalp. This tension to balding link is news to me.
This kind of confirms with what I recently found mind boggling about niacinamide that promotes hair growth, but on the other side it also raises testosterone and dht levels in body
Ayurvedic text says that main cause of hair loss is less supply of the oxygen rich blood towards the scalp. So they suggest to massage head which reduces the muscle tension in the head and increase blood supply. I think your finding really makes greater sense.
When I was young my father used to always complain about headaches, stress from work and then he slowly went bald. When I started working, long hours in front of the computer, I developed sore shoulder, sore neck especially on the right side. 15 or so years past, my right side scalp was painful to touch at times, sore jawbone muscles and headaches etc and I started to notice my hair was thinning on the right side of the scalp. Sore eye to top of scalp to temple, neck , shoulder down to my right arm right hand which I use to drive the mouse and wipe phones. I woke up to this whole tension and blood flow idea and started massaging now slowing my hair are thickening up again.
This is amazing. I've read a couple of papers and I was taken aback. Incredible stuff. He's underselling it to be cautious... (when everyone else oversells) I wonder what the effects of acupuncture would be...
I have some other theories based on my own personal observation and experience. These were my cause and symptoms: Mental: PTSD/Insane stress. External: Itchy scalp, Dry Scalp, Dandruff/Dermatitis. (yellow flakes). Dermatitis on hands, very itch hands. Dry eyes and dry eyelids leading to Blepharitis. It seems my entire body was "drying out"! No matter how much water I drank. I had also injured my neck 20 years ago and it has been gradually getting worse and worse. My anxiety due to PTSD changed my breathing pattern and I suspect this has messed up blood flow and oxygen/O2 levels. My theory is that due to severe mental stress as well as my neck injury both blood and oxygen do not properly reach or circulate my head, scalp OR due to chronic cortisol (fight or fligt 24/7!) my body is protecting my vital parts and the rest becomes secondary. I have noticed memory loss as well. At first small things and now I can confirm I have forgotten many things that I could easily recall before. For example I'm a cineast. I love movies. I used to be able to name movies, years, actors etc etc. Now a lot of that I just simply can no longer recall! The PTSD/ anxiety/cortisol apparently makes it so that all blood goes to another part of my body as protection instead of scalp. My digestion is also terrible. It is said that the "happy hormones" are created in the belly and that also not working properly in me. I'm in my mid 40's and had BIG hair and very thick too! In about 3 months I lost half of that!! Derms say it is possible for someone of my age to start losing hair so rapidly, but I just thought it didn't make sense. I think all of my causes triggered alopecia and Male Pattern Balding. I still can't believe it and every time I look in the mirror I'm in shock. I've been taking Finasteride for over two years and minoxidil for at least 12 months. Still my hair is slowly receding and now it's thin all over. I wish I knew EXACTLY what is causing it, but all I have are my theories. The theory proposed in this video completely makes sense to me. It is a combination of tension due to either anatomical (bones) or anxiety with blood flow and oxygen. I also have low blood pressure, but I don't recall having that when I was younger. This could also play in a part in all of this.
sooo interesting, i would like to add that excess of dopamine like porn or just scrollin on instagram raise the cortisol leves( stress hormone), people think its just being worry, but looking constant for dopamine is stressfull
ok guys.... I'm going to try this for 6 to 8 months. just comment on this post so I can remember to share my results! I'm going to be 100% honest and tell you whether it's a must or bust
@@Muffles Im still losing hair, however like most treatments whether it be minoxidil or rogain take 3-6 months with patients reporting losing hair before regrowth starts to occur, so I'll giving this experiment the same time frame... I'm not taking any FDA drugs (minoxidil or rogain) but I will start taking supplements such as vitamin d3 and moringa
Guys, He repeatedly says there is no payment wall on his website and he wants his video openly accessible to the community but in reality you have to give him your email address in exchange for the exercise video. So he takes our data rather than our money just to be clear nothing is free in this world. And i myself am not undermining his knowledge or disparaging him in any way in fact i am using his exercise video to improve my hair health in exchange for my data. I just want to come out and express my concern about this issue. Other than that it's A+
I have actually paid for access to his entire site and it is well worth the money. Product reviews, forums, videos, studies, action plans and access to an entire team that will help you any way they can.
Figured out how to relax my head the day after watching this video. Got high and was able to figure out how to do it, its legal in New Jersey relax. Getting high is not required but I if you watch Riley Swaav's video on scalp exercises I figured out that by moving my ears and raising my eyebrows, I noticed my scalp moving. Holy moly moment. Now I thought what if someone doesn't know how to move their ears? Smile. smile as hard as you can where your cheeks are almost closing your eyes and you will feel your ears moving. Continue to do this until you can move your ears. Once you have full control of each ear, raise your eyebrows up and down and you will notice your scalp moving. Again, Holy moly moment. Now, about the back of the head. Took me a few hours of just getting through the day and figured out that raising your eyebrows in a "seriously?" type of expression did it. Do it more and more and you will notice that back of your head moving. For the third time, Holy moly moment. I tried Rob English's massages that he sends through his website and will be trying them to see if any results arise. I feel like helping do these massages and relaxing the scalp could help us learn more about hair loss and scalp tension and relaxation. Hope this helps anyone struggling to figure this out.
In my experience my hairloss was a result of calcification and potentially a lack of sulfur/magnesium in general. Supplementing MSM and magnesium chloride topically seems to be rapidly fixing this (been doing it for 2 months and seen clear results)
@@CallOfDutySniperzzz I take MSM internally too but i found magnesium chloride on skin can be mildly irritating and read adding msm works soothing against this. I am noticing a reversing in my baldening and need more time to observe and articulate the effects properly but so far it seems to work and i sleep better from the mag and feel more energetic in general
I wonder how this technique will influence hair loss in women after giving birth. Interesting fact, a pregnant woman will actually build up to something like 30% more blood. After pregnancy, that blood level will normalize to pre birth levels. Reduced blood (also noted in the video). Sadly, it appears to only affect the scalp, not hair growth in the genital regions.
I lived in India for a few years and scalp massaging there is VERY common. You have it done at the same place you get your hair cut. I wonder if they have less hair loss because of that.
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Hope y'all find this one interesting! Rob and I's full talk was much longer, but to make it more digestible, I've isolated this section regarding his hypothetical pathogenesis model for just this video. For the record, Rob was extra careful in our full discussion to not present this model in a way that makes people overconfident in it - while it's very interesting and I think it's worth investigating, it's not a magic bullet for everyone. Hopefully the information discussed here is useful for you, but don't take it as a reason to not try or investigate other promising interventions as well.
There are more men who care about height than hair, so doing a video in that topic would help us a lot. Hope you would do one in near future.
I was afraid it would be a boring topic to talk about, but not on this channel. It was fascinating even without being bald at 47.
Can you please talk about the strong association between premature hair loss and greying and cardio vascular disease like MIs??
Love your channel and interested in the full interview, too! Have you considered uploading the full interviews (like the Jordan Peterson one) to a second channel?
*_Massage tends to relive stress. Could hair loss just be caused by stress?_*
I can't believe how refreshing it is to hear a professional say "we don't know enough yet". So sick of all these grifters taking advantage of vulnerable people.
finasteride is the answer
Yes, Daniel Franco. Chemical ©@$+®@+¡0π is the answer. G€π¡u$.
The irony if this - the guy in this video is a literal grifter.
I am typing this as someone who is experiencing hair loss, and does not wish for anyone to be duped into trying such nonsense and lose more hair.
The only tested, proved remedies, are: finasteride, minoxidil, and micro-needling.
The notion that blood flow, circulation, or posture has ANYTHING to do with hairloss is completely imaginary.
@@bonkling different things can cause hairless for different people. Therefore different cure will work for some people and not others
He is not a professional and acces to his files will cost you a fortune. Go figure?
The 25 minute mark was an absolute delight. Robs transparency about the limited Evidence for his hypothesis is the epitome of how scientific communication should look like. Too many scientific communicators take unsubstantiated but compelling hypotheses and run with them without establishing their evidence legitimacy
Well said! Have a nice day :)
I'm a big fan of the 30 minute mark.
It was so refreshing I didn't know how to react
Only if the recent medical therapies the world participated in were that honest
so it’s useless lol. thanks for telling me prior to watching the whole video.
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:
00:12 🤔 Rob English proposes a unique hypothesis for why hair loss happens, addressing the relationship between DHT and hair growth in different areas of the body.
00:27 💡 Rob shares techniques for hair regrowth that are accessible and not behind a paywall.
00:41 📚 Rob's paper on his hair loss model was accepted into an academic journal, and he now serves as a journal editor in the field.
03:59 🧪 Rob proposes a hypothetical pathogenesis model for hair loss that considers various factors such as inflammation, blood supply, and muscle tension.
05:25 🔬 Low blood flow in the scalp may be a consequence of hair loss, but there might also be anatomical triggers contributing to the reduction in blood and oxygen supply.
08:39 ⛓️ Rob's model suggests that chronic tension from scalp muscles could lead to inflammation, causing DHT to accumulate in balding scalp sites and induce scar tissue formation.
09:19 🧠 The pattern of tension across the scalp might align with the rapidity and location of male pattern hair loss, while changes in head size can model the tension pattern of female pattern hair loss.
11:50 🤔 Botox injections to relax scalp muscles have shown improvements in hair density and halted/improved hair loss.
12:20 💉 Clinical trials have demonstrated a 75% response rate to Botox injections in terms of stopping or improving hair loss in individuals with androgenic alopecia.
13:56 📚 Multiple studies have shown an 80% response rate and an 18-21% increase in hair counts after intramuscular injections of Botox over a 6 to 10 month period.
14:37 🎯 Scalp tension and scalp muscles offer a unique target for addressing hair loss outside of the typical drug model.
15:05 📊 Combining Botox with medications like Finasteride may have a synergistic effect, leading to a significant increase in hair count.
15:46 🧠 Scalp tightness may be influenced by various factors, including genetics, jaw development, and androgen exposure during early development.
16:56 🤷 The exact cause of scalp muscle tension is not fully understood, but studies indicate that tight scalps are more common among individuals with androgenic alopecia.
17:41 ❓ Botox injections may improve hair density by potentially increasing blood flow and oxygen levels in the scalp, although more research is needed to confirm this mechanism.
19:17 🌬️ Low blood flow and oxygen levels in balding regions of the scalp may create an environment where dihydrotestosterone (DHT) is favored and expressed at higher levels.
19:59 🤝 Low oxygen environments seem to promote hair loss and the conversion of testosterone into DHT, potentially contributing to the progression of androgenic alopecia.
22:16 💆 Scalp massages and acute inflammation exercises may lead to hair regrowth by targeting scalp relaxation and inflammation generation.
24:36 🤝 Standardized scalp massages have shown promising results in improving hair thickness and regrowth, with a time-dependent increase in effectiveness.
26:25 📚 Scalp massages are currently supported by survey-based studies and anecdotal evidence, with the mechanisms behind their effectiveness still speculative.
27:49 📈 Extended use of scalp massages has shown slow but significant improvements in hair counts for a portion of individuals over one to three years.
28:47 💊 Scalp massages can be an alternative for individuals who do not respond well to FDA-approved drugs like finasteride and minoxidil.
This should have more likes
Thank you!
Wow
Thanks
Thanks
I'm glad he presented it reasonably, with many "we don't know's" rather than selling it as some guaranteed cure all.
Exactly!
Just like a real scientific researcher should. Love it.
Actual scientist 😭
You know you are facing a real scientist when they are many "we don't know", "we're not sure"
But the title of the video says otherwise
Must appreciate the fact that instead of just posting the interview, he actually edited and illustrated all the important points so that everything becomes clear for us, the viewers. This is the kind of high-end content i will always go to. 🙏🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Congratulations on being a professional consumer
100 percent he respects our time
@@cag19549 im offended online
So well put video 👏👏👏
He sells an expensive membership for massages that have no scientific evidence. No massages for free. Another meat eater selling stuff. The website selected testimonies hide the end results, which is a worsening of their conditions. Search the video Rob English (Perfect Hair Health). Worst of the hair loss industry
My Korean hairstylist for years has been telling to me massage my crown to help with thinning hair in that area, and it worked for me! Glad to learn it's being investigated more seriously
Hoe do you massage?
How u r massaging??
@@hannibalburgers477 I don't think he's a hoe
+1
I massage my crown and made it loose with caused me to have cutis verticis gyrata
This guy is really genuine. He's more interested in the data and research than money. It's refreshing
Go to his website and see how much he charges for the massage routine he just talked about.
@@jewelbency5072 He has some paid membership type stuff, but I got the massage routine for free. It's available to everyone at no charge, or at least it was when I did it
Hes up there with james nestor, william bates, and mike mew.
@@Sokofeathernow thats bit too much
Fully agreed 😊
The extra information in the comments section is just fantastic. Thanks to everyone who shared their personal experiences and what worked or didn’t work for them. You all are amazing.
UA-cam many times really acts as a hub of knowledge on a topic, it gets really amazing.
Our bodies prioritize damage and inflammation over hair growth. Everytime I'm having gut issues I notice my hair is thinner and drier. When my gut is thriving and I'm well hydrated I noticed my hair grows, looks fuller and shinier.
not sure if "prioritize" is the right word...
@@jss.2020 I mean prioritize fixing* or dealing with.
@@mikieemiike3979 naw i think u mean correlate
@@jss.2020 No I mean if you have inflammation long enough your body will focus on healing and you may lose hair, skin health etc. Because it's now prioritizing the healing process not so much growing hair.
@@mikieemiike3979 no it does not - you are losing your hair because of the inflammation in your body
wow! I'm a woman who has bruxism. It got MUCH worse after I got invisalign-like braces. I got chronic tension in my jaw, temples, neck, etc. I also started to get mild hair loss. I would have never put the two together without this guy!
@@asymmetricbeing thank you friend!
Improved my bruxism with ''Mewing''. Keeping the tongue on the roof of the mouth as a newly adopted resting posture. This chanel has a video on it. You can also look up the work of Dr. Mike Mew on orthotropics.
@@fredericp64 thanks! I've known about mewing for quite some time, unfortunately I still have bruxism but I think it's helped
Bruxism is often a result of malnutrition, lacking certain vitamins or minerals in your diet. Things like vitamin B-5, calcium, magnesium, potassium, and vitamin C.
This is part of the reason why it’s so common among vegans and vegetarians. The B vitamins are particularly hard to get in these diets.
I’ve found making sure I’ve eaten enough nutrient dense food in a day, and not letting my room be too hot at night helps a lot to reduce my bruxism.
I have Bruxiam and I plan on getting Invisalign . Will it make it worse? Why did it make yours worse? Has it improved
Two men genuinely just trying to help, much love to you, love your content
Neck mobility exercises
To fix forward head posture and muscle imbalance fixed my hair loss which can be evident throughout daily hair count texture and volume also your scalp has a uniform shape now due to the released scalp muscle tension (no more stress temporal lines and your scalp is moving freely)
As the scalp muscle tension is a second order effect of shoulder,neck and back muscle tension due to overall muscle imbalance between chest and back which causes forward head posture on the long run.
Exercises
1-Inverted head massage using silicone massager
2-Forward Head posture exercises
3-Neck mobility side to side and head movements in all direction
(Swivel head exercise)
4-Walking up right with straight spine
What does "Inverted head massage" look like? Where can I find more info on this topic?
@@qwertmom
Mainly tilt your head downwards and start massaging around head muscles i use a silicone massager for better grip and efficiency
Another way to do it is lay on bed where your head it outside the bed frame and free from support and do the same massage with silicone massagers one with your face looking at the ceiling and the other with your head looking on the floor
I love that instead of posting long podcasts as other channels do, you kept only the required portions, and knitted them into a story.
Its fascinating to me how every time we discover something relating to the human body theres always a degree of traditional wisdom that applies, like we all have this concept that if you get too stressed your hair will fall off, and turns out it does have some influence
True
Constant Muscle Tension is linked with a lot of adverse physical problems.
Probably because humans have great pattern recognition skills. We always saw how those who were more stressed lost hair, but we just didn’t separate the factors and test it before. Same way we know “don’t eat smelly meat”. We noticed because who ate the smelly meat got sick.
Kinda like modern medicine is trying to catch up
Rob is well-spoken and im really glad he understands the hiearchy of evidence, importance of study population and extrapolation. And also the abscence of paywall is a plus.
Definitely the best interviewee so far
No pay-wall is a plus for YOU but take some time to consider the benefit he is bringing and appreciate that people SHOULD have paywalls
@@JackTheStrippa Corporate paywalls are often legitimate, though research is most times public-funded, so adding a paywall only goes against the mission of a university towards the wider public. If it's a private institution, things are different, though most private universities are no-profits anyway, so I don't see a reason to support generalised paywalls.
@@gs7828 what are you talking about? A paywall is simply a way of supporting hard work and
@@JackTheStrippa Research which has already been paid for by institutions/states, and profited by publishers. Authors don't get anything, just "prestige" and the privilege of not having to deal with actual humans.
This is honestly game changer and conforms a lot of my observations with my own hair loss and hair growth journey. If I could add something that the video left out it's that improving my posture, specifically my forward head posture significantly improved my scalp tightness. That coupled with scalp massages and microneedling made my hair go from a wispy mess to a thick mane, and a lot of my Norwood is slowly reversing.
Very interesting! How do you improve your forward head posture?
I was having this same thought as I watched. I had whiplash and chronic neck pain and after 20 years, I'm working at helping my neck again with acupuncture, massage, etc. and I'm noticing profound effects, even a different in my appetite. The muscles, tendons, fascia, are all connected, so a tight scalp could easily be a result of something down the chain.
how did you get microneedling done, like who did you go to and what did you tell them?
@@justsomeguywithnoeyes7303 I did it at home after a bit of researching techniques (there's a lot of youtube tutorials that show you how to do it), and what not. First, leave the microneedle in a cup with isoproly 70% alchohol to steralize it, then I hop in the shower and shampoo my hair and massaging my scalp to make sure its clean and ready to dermaroll. Once my head is dry, using 1.5mm dermaroller I press firmly and go in straight lines thru most of my scalp, 1 or 2 times horizontally, then again vertically. Takes about 10 minutes to go thru all the areas in top of your head. Then I just wash my head with water and sterilize the dermaroller again before putting it away. I did this like every 1-3 weeks, and still do.
I don't recommend it for everybody, especially if you have low pain tolerance (does get easier tho, the more you do it) or if you aren't meticulous with disinfecting it and making sure none of the needles are bent (get a new one if it happens.) It does a lot though, it eases some of the muscle tension, it promotes blood flow, increases collagen production in the area.
That's what I was thinking. Poor posture is known to lead to tense neck and restricted blood flow. Why are victims of hair loss seem to be getting younger and more common? I'm guessing its due to this generation s poor posture aka tech neck.
He is the most thorough and concurrent to the evidence I've been finding by my own experience. Although I object tension to be mechanical but chemical/metabolic. I think pattern baldness is an excellent topic to analyze how nerves and neurotransmitters associated with muscle tension also affect, gradually but consistently, conjunctive tissue, like skin, collagen, tendons and even certain organs. Because tissues like the fascia are not that different from muscle cells, so it's logical to think "constractans" and "relaxants" have a direct and lasting effect on connective tissue that ulteriorly ends up affecting the overall health of the body.
Some people in India visit barbershop specifically for head massage. Now I get how helpful it is for hair growth.
yap get that tension out of your scalp
head massage is fine, just dont do the neck... same with indonesia, some barbershop also provide head massage but usually also with neck bending stuff which scary
that is smart
"Relaaaaasx"
So, what should we do to stop hairloss & regrow hair?
1) massage the scalp perimeter through scalp presses
2) acute inflammation along the top of your head via specific skin pinches and presses and stretches
#2 makes no sense; how about a rewrite
Stress does tend to cause tension headaches and muscle contraction, so that would help explain why stressed people also start to lose their hair.
There is a photo of Boris Johnson (lots of bushy hair) and a boeddist monk (balding).............
This is what we need guys, a real brother helping us out!
This is also completely anecdotal but when the video mentioned that simply hand massaging can reduce stress in the muscles in the skull and the scalp, I tried it out on my tight, tight back from the all-nighter before today's exam and damn, massaging does work excellently. It's almost obvious now how my parents asked me to massage their back or legs after a long day and it literally relaxed them and the muscle I was massaging but I didn't connect the ideas that I could self-massage for flexibility and fitness purposes. I'm just writing this down so I don't forget this!
I hardly ever use em but in fitness there is massage balls and massage rolls, I prefer the ball personnally
@@williamboshi1855 you do, don't you hehe
@@finethehuman1821 literally ; )
Also bringing down inflammation . Since keto diet I have drop a lot of inflammation in my face and head
Try a really hot bath, like a sento / onsen in Japan. Walked 10km+ in one day with sore legs and it melts away in minutes in a hot bath. It needs to be a deep bath though.
amazing info, i rem from 25 to 35 always wondering why my head skin was so sore/tight. now i have been trying many different technique and foods. The fastest ever moment i noticed extreme hair growth was when i had a super physical job that burnt me out, i had to quit but i was amazed at my hair regrowth!
Your one of the few that does quality right on this platform I don’t even know if you were at 300 thousand or a million when I followed you but you seem like you would naturally grow to whatever success you reach. Your one of the few that does quality right on this platform and for that I salute
A salute from "Your Boi", he must be thrilled to read it!
Scalp tension thing makes sense. My father has full black hair at 63 now. He has chronic overly chill problem i never seen him being tense at anything. His friends make fun of him for having super chill face.
I hope I age like your dad 😂
Your dad stays winning though because he still has his hair 😂
Your dad wins at everything. 😂 Also could you give me a TLD on this video? Should I exercise that muscle or what? 😂
It doesn't
Thats why Minoxidil regrows hair, it lowers your tension.
It's all about circulation, which is why most of the medication for hair loss works like high blood pressure medicine by dilating the blood vessels which in turn would relax the muscles and de-constrict the blood vessels allowing more oxygen to get to the hair follicles which will allow them to grow . Blood moving freely will also relax the body
This is 3rd or 4th video that I've seen from you that introduces me to some everyday applicable knowledge, that changed the way I behave or has changed my life for the better, I really want to thank you for all your hard work and hope to see more.
could you list the other 2/3? thank you!
@@meltingslurpee "Willpower is for losers" would be one for sure, the one about oil and maybe the one about status
I long a time ago I suspected that scalp massage prevents and helps hair grow. I suspected it after reading a book about it written by two ladies that they did not really understand why or how. Their premise was the stimulation of the scalp by the use of a home made scalp lotion. I suspected the lotion was unnecessary and what was important was the massage. Because of laziness, I rarely did the massage, but now I think I should try it again. It only takes about 5 to 10 mins (I think); we can do it while watching this video.
Don't dismiss the lotion so quickly. Who knows what herbs and oils they had in it
What is this book you are referring to? Would love to check it out!
I really like how Rob manages to list run off so many stats and figures yet manages to say so engaged. He is so passionate about what he does. It it very inspiring!
20:00 makes sense, since when people have Peripheral Artery/Vascular Disease, they tend to have poorer bloodflow (and therefore oxygenation) to the legs and often end up with leg hair loss and tight shiny skin
I’ve been massaging my scalp during the entire video.
Same bruh. After it became clear that massaging is key, I can't stop anymore
@@DC_DC_DC_DC yeah, massaging things seems
To make them grow.
@@monztermovies That is normally the case for me and my penis.
@@monztermovies hahahaha.
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In terms of head massages, women know that if you massage your head upside down for 3 minutes daily then your hair will grow thicker and also regrow, especially using rosemary essential oil. On that, I have an very old yoga book, published in the 60’s that has a yoga move that allows you to grow thick luxurious hair. I think that is amazing. I was telling a woman I know about and she told me that she had an adopted sister that slept in a strange position with her head upside down and had thick luxurious hair.
What book is that? Could you please share.
@@leo5053 That book, if I still have it, is in the depths of my garage "somewhere". It basically says that any upside down yoga position will do it, as seen by the girl who slept upside down. Goodness only knows what her upside-down sleeping position looked like. I am sorry I just would not recall the name of the book either. I would doubt that there were that many yoga books written in the 60's though so you could look around in book archive sites.
Absolutely fascinating that this guy presented both the high tech and then reverse engineered a traditional approach.
💯💯
Exactly! So interesting
You believe this fool 😂
@@Dan-ul1sf All future Wilkinson Sword subscribers hahah.😂
That tooo for free
So if tension in the forehead causes balding, malding is in fact real.
Yup
What's that? Do you mean molting? Like we're parrots?
@@WhatIveLearned Malding is when someone is so mad all the time, that it causes balding.
@@WhatIveLearned It's basically a "twitch(online game streaming platform" phrase used when someone missplays and gets angry.
MAD and Balding so he's MALDING xD
@@perfectpitch2506 that's very interesting as it says "Stress is the silent killer" I wonder how one would relieve tension in their forehead, meditation?
Without any academic backing, my initial impression is that the scalp massages stimulates the lymphatic system. This helps reduce the amount of free radicals in the scalp and reduces inflammation, thus increasing hair count
More Plates More Dates needs to review this.
Send it!
Less stress, proper nourishment, proper amount of motion and so on. Good builds, evil destroys.
My great grandpa who passed away at the age of 103 was the laziest human i ever knew haha, he really took his time, would take him hours to finish breakfast, he used to take naps laying on the lawn, never stressed about anything, if he didn't slip and fall on the ice he would have pulled off several years more i'm sure.
I like this channel. Covering fringe science and letting us make our own decisions about how to act. For example, you make videos covering hypotheses about the role inflammation might hypothetically play in various conditions. Whether or not inflammation really plays a role, there's basically zero downside to eating a diet with less inflammatory foods so no harm done.
"FRINGE SCIENCE' 😂❤
I really love this channel. I NEVER know what I’m going to learn about but I’m always intrigued and learn something ☺️
This video has a lot of misinformation in it sadly
stop being so gullible
This video is amazing from all points of view. He even admits they don't know enough to confirm his theory, even though there is significant evidence of it being true and it's the best model we currently have that fits better than just the DHT-only model.
@@thisguyrighthere4634he didn't ask you to pay money and nothing... What's loss in that doing dude ?
You need to get in touch with Derek from MPMD and have him do a podcast with this guy
Derek or Kevin Mann would have this guy crying
@@kaito9907 why
@@kaito9907 Fanboy alert..
@@kaito9907 kevin will do a video about this one. 🤣
Cus Derek and Kevin are heavily evidence and science based when it comes to their videos and research. They will disprove this guy's theories. It's DHT, DHT is the culprit not scalp tension. Through stress can contribute.
i remember when you had a a bit over 10k subs , look at you hiting 2M soon, i'm so proud of you🥰🥰🥰
You…thank you for making silly videos 😃
He sells an expensive membership for massages that have no scientific evidence. No massages for free. Another meat eater selling stuff. The website selected testimonies hide the end results, which is a worsening of their conditions. Search the video Rob English (Perfect Hair Health). Worst of the hair loss industry
Insane
be glad not proud
I think this video just might be a lifesaver!
I've been putting a lot of work into stopping my hair regression.
Explain hair transplants surviving where the original hair died...wouldn't the same thing happen to transplanted hair if this theory was true?
Don't stop proven hair restoration therapys for now...
@@careycrews1 I think when people receive a hair transplant they usually also get put on finasteride, i.e. the most common drug against hairloss.
@shindig9000 any results?
I did microneedling for about half a year on my scalp and used minoxidil every other day. My hair regrew quite a lot. On the before and after pics i'd even go as far as to say that the haircount doubled in the areas that were most affected. It's quite painful at first because the studies i've seen ask for 1.5mm needles that really need to penetrate the skin, but the effects are undeniable. I can definitely recommend it to anyone but you have to stay consistent and can't start slacking because it's uncomfortable. Also i recommend you don't get a dermaroller with too many needles, as those tend to rip the skin a lot and be more painful. I'd go for around 200-400 1.5mm needles on the roller.
Edit: link to before & after pics in the comments
Dermarolling tears skin more than dermastamping, be careful with minoxidil it brings back hair but destroy other youthful features, it depletes collagen in face and can cause dark under eyes.
Could you link what kind of roller you would recommend
Rob made a video about dermarolling recently. new studies suggest different needle lengths.
Can you send a link to the roller you used? Do 1.5mm needles not lead to bleeding so better not use it in the morning?
@@henryvonmatt what are the new lengths that are recommended?
I was bullied in 10th grade because I had a bald spot. I saw a dermatologist and was put on Propecia and Rogaine at the age of 15. It helped me keep most of my hair, but side effects were massive.
nocebo effect
Yup which is why I rather be bald.... hope you're healthy man
@@SyThco13 L
What were the side effects?
@@_shery. pp no happy
This is better then any treatment in the whole medical history i have tried this for 3 years and i was able to restore 90 % of my hair although nowadays I don’t get enough time to practice it so again i am where i was before.
I regularly do handstand to prevent hair loss...
Works for me
Idk
That's why there's so much hair on my arse
How do you know that’s what’s working?
interesting
Age and family hairloss history?
Matthew McConaughey says he massages ointment into his scalp for 10 minutes a day and that fixed his hair. I wondered if it was Minoxidil but hearing this the massaging is next level. Maybe over the counter Minoxidil with massages combined with fasting and keto is the play.
He's a liar, no one can regrow that much hair on the temples without fda approved drugs like finasteride or minoxidil
bruh
You know Matthew McConaughey is a fckn lier right. Dude has a hair transplant and because it's still a taboo subject he won't admit it lol
He had a special shampoo he used in the 90s. No it wasn't a keto or min shampoo.
Also I wouldn't put it past him to have gotten hair transplants.
He had transplants
I have been studying Vitamin K2 and calcification of the arteries. I also noted that Vitamin D3 without K2 puts calcium everywhere in the body. K2 MK7 tells the body to put the calcium in the bones. Japanese people who have long lives eat Natto which is 1000mcg of K2 per serving. My guess is that prostate enlargement and inflammation of the bladder may be caused by excess calcium in the bladder and prostate causing inflammation. My question is if this may also be causing baldness in the same way. I will let you know about my prostate. I am taking 400mcg a day for the last two weeks. If my theory is correct all prostate and bladder issues should be gone within 6 to 8 weeks.
Yeah, interesting theory
Did it help?
One thing I noticed.
Both my grandfathers were WW2 survivors. They fought in different parts and had many former soldier friends, and not only soldier, but also labor camps survivors etc.
I remember as kid when they had gatherings and reunions. I also have hundreds of pictures of them.
I noticed that there was barely any baldness among them even in their 80s and 90s. Off course some had not perfect hairlines, and hairs were thinner, but loads of them had perfect hairs. Grey or salt and pepper colour like. When I look through pictures of my grandfathers and also their friends when they were in their 40s or 50s, they all have like perfect thick hairs. These days we have a lot of even 20 years old guys that are bald. And no I am not referring to juicers in the gym.
Very interesting especially since testosterone levels are down amongst young men now days. Their losing hair but can’t grow beards it seems like.
Chronic stress is through the roof in our societies, resulting in chronic tension.
The fact that, despite going through hell and back, they had eachother back then to relate their lives and problems to probably played a significant role in being able deal with the tension in their lives throughout their lives.
There’s lots of contributors to modern hair loss.
I personally think...the food quality has been degrading... From veg to nonveg...from air to water... quality has been degrading a lot... Reasons pollution... fertilizers in farm... Etc
@@vinodk1517 This is probably one of the factors.
Thank you for the discussion.
I've been following Rob on you tube for about a year. Great information.
I hope his channel grows after this.
Massage definitely reduces itch and shedding for me. The dermatologist sees less inflammation. It makes sense that it would help. I believe it at least slows hair loss, but I’m not convinced it helps regrow much hair. So start early.
I'm 42 years old, started losing hair in my early 20s and my scalp ias as flexible as Terry Crewe's.
I am beginning to be a believer. Although male alopecia is supposed to be inherited by the mother’s side, I send this vid to my (very scientifically materialistic) father, telling him: « We might have a way/ an issue! ». He answered to me only five minutes later (which told me he hadn’t seen the video), saying : « This seems ludicrous! Not quite scientific... ». He also pointed chemical reactions he knew that would favor alopecia in a genetic and definitive way. (This, again, made me though that he had not seen the whole video.)
Then, I started to massage my scalp 3 weeks ago. I got the most of the technique out of the Web (note : rob’s site is probably spot on, but I din’t like the « as seen on TV approach offered on the web site, meaning that you’ll only know (I suppose) about what it cost after receiving several emails ending on a pooooor undeserved cliff hanger. I did not like to think of that sympathetic researcher as a full-on busy-business well-being developper. So I found what I wad looking for elsewhere: i.e.: on channels of those having benefited from the scalp-massages.
Soon enough, I bought myself a 20 $CAD vibrating brush for the scalp and integrated it to my routine (which is anywhere from 3 to 10 minutes each day, divided in 2 or 3 times).
SO : after a month and a half having exercised my scalp, which includes a 2-week integration of an electric brush, I am happy to report something like a 10% increase of my hair volume. This is especially verifiable on my forehead where my GF and I could easily see that the hair is now going way lower towards my nose, and also - mainly! - there are two 50/50 lengths of hair : the longest, which are hair shave a mouth and a half ago; and all the other (as much as the previous !) : half of the previous.... leaving me to think that these are knew hair.
Starting as of today, I am gonna take pictures, hoping that my father will remain speechless for a few hours for once in his life!
what brush did you buy?
update?
@@Muffles Still growing, but I had a treatment that reversed the effect for a while (like 4 months). Overall, people I haven’t seen in a while are noticing the new hair up there. I’d say that some spots seem to react slower than others (it seems, in fact, that it goes the other way around the loss : I’m getting back my hair where I lastly lost it, etc.). The brush I use is a fairly common type found on Amazon. I selected one with a vibration function, but I’m pretty sure I would get a similar result with a manual one.
The other great aspect is the loss of dandruffs spots. I tend to think that the main factor for both benifices is a better blood circulation within the scalp.
I’ve been doing this to my self for months since I’ve noticed my temporalis muscle has been extra swollen this. I’ve noticed my hair is growing back, so i searched for this on UA-cam.
I think that if you survived as a child by dissociating with your feelings, and you are doing the work to process that trauma. Your body starts showing different signs of your body processing with the brain.
I find it amazing when I look at photos of people in the past, you rarely saw bald people.
yes photos in the 1700's had people with so much hair!!
@@Seedzification they also died pretty young back then
Some food for thought, a hypothesis: as we age some people have the head posture moves forward. For every inch forward it applies about 10 lbs (the weight of the head) the pressure to the spinal column... I know because I'm having traction done to correct my neck... I also know that muscles don't tighten by accident, the nervous system is telling it to do so, thus the forward head posture puts pressure on the nerves. When the discussion about the muscles in the forehead would tighten... it got me thinking... perhaps this is related?
As a PT & muscular therapist i found your hypothesis very interesting.
@@jedrashidul6952 Thank you for noticing my comment and letting me know. And it seems to me that this could be the tip of an iceberg... How many _more_ things could be like this? As a PT & Muscular therapist... I don't know how much you see/know in chiropractic care... but briefly, it helps me live a life pain free, but if I miss for a long time, like happened in the pandemic lockdowns, I had a lot of lower back, neck, thoracic, all over pain and stiffness... but it was amazing how quickly it was resolved with adjustments... practically in minutes to hours, and a few took a week or so, but I mean most were instant! So the nervous systems is in control, and "form" follows "function" in the body. Like the neck and the ANS firing muscles to stabilize it... while I am not a medical person, this is what I've experienced first hand and I realize that I am not physically that exceptional of an individual so I don't see why it shouldn't apply to many people. I hope that you can do something groundbreaking with this hypothesis, BTW: I've also mentioned it to my Chiropractor (Intern at Life West Chiropractic College) and he thought it was interesting as well. Thanks, and have a great day.
100%
Bingo! At 30 I upset my C5 neck disc and got chronic neck pain. Bumped the back of my head and upset the nerves in the scalp. I had a tight band around the head headaches. Never had a history. I felt everything improved when I start training the muscles in the back of the head. Stay off those phones!!! And got out and play!
Yup exactly which created the low oxygen environment in scalp Main thing!!! Do mewing!! Look up mike mew cheesy swallow! And chew gum! And DONT GET ORTHO WORK OR BRACES
Pattern baldness runs in my family, and I had thinning hair from I was in my early teens. Then I noticed that bald men had tight scalps. So in my twenties I decided to start stretching my scalp. The result is that forty years later, I still have most of my hair on my head.
How did you stretch it? Can you please share
@@ayushmanot7612 Basically you massage it. Start at the sides and pinch the skin between thumb and fore finger, working your way all over.
How many minutes do you massage and stretch your scalp.
@@josephwanjiku6853 Before I address your question, is your last name Wan? Well, I do it for a few minutes whenever I remember. Definitely no prolonged periods. Stretching consists mainly of pushing the skin together between the tips of ones fingers on both hands. My last name is Wan. That's why I asked.
Two questions, given the 2 baldness patterns (male / female) and female skulls being a bit smaller on average:
1. The video shows two different tension maps for men and women: the peak tension is on the sides and the crown for men, and along the central axis for women. If men and women have the same pattern of skull muscles, female skulls being somewhat smaller wouldn't change the tension map: it would be the same, just smaller for women. The map would change only if women had different distribution of skull musculature than men (I don't know).
2. There are tall women with skull size the same as men and there are shorter men with skull size the same as women. But both group still bald according to their gender pattern. For a man and a woman with the same skull size, I'd expect the same tension map, and thus the same balding pattern, which isn't the case (again: unless there's a difference in musculature)
I used to have long hair past my shoulders but unfortunately my genes kicked in. All five of my uncles on my moms side went bald pretty early. I started balding at 17 and was completely bald at 20 👴🏽
Hm. I wouldn't pay attention to your hair.
highly likely its your lifestyle and diet and less of an effect from your genes at 17
@@dweeder1453 no its literally hormones destroying his hair lmao, DHT sucks bro
@@buttoxchewy try dandruff shampoo. Zinc pyrthione has been shown in studies to block DHT containing sebum from the hair follicles and is anti-inflammatory.
@@j.d.564 I know, I use head and shoulders for dandruff, but the minor DHT blocking effects it has is welcome too.
I have a head like a hard coconut. I have hair loss at the temples, supposed to be androgenetic alopecia. Biopsy says it looks like it. It started either from high fever of pneumonia in 2018 or the treatment of prednisone. Also lost eyelashes and eyebrows. They grew back with help. Before that I had a great hairline and thick hair. I also lost 70% from Covid. All that is growing back. I have been grinding my teeth for years. Recently, I've started using a scalp brush, micro needling every other day, topical finasteride, minoxidil, retinol, ketoconozole topical, shampoo with niacin, caffeine, and something I can't remember. I also started taking niacin and noticed today the flush was a line on my forehead where the missing hair is. I thought that was interesting. blood flow to the exact spot I need it. Hair is starting to grow back. I use a powder on the temples to disguise it
I have noticed that skin flexibility loss with areas that begin to thin later.
A strong co-relation
Relaxing of the eye tension muscles does help egg shaped eyeballs otherwise known as Astigmatism to an (even) ball shape. This does help lessen the astigmatism affect. I've been doing it for a number of years and yes, it does work. I'm no longer wearing glasses to drive or do far vision and am continuing to do exercises to help my near-sight vision. Just relaxing all muscles in your head, eyes, ears, face, neck will help you calm too.
How do you do it?
i have an astigmatism, how do you do this?
Astigmatism describes the shape of the lens, not the eyeball.
Androgenic hair loss is quite different than the kind of hair loss. A lot of us are experiencing right now due to environmental toxins. It would be nice if you would address that in one of your other videos?
The doctor who just did an interview with Mikayla Peterson had very eye opening data about environ toxins.
I bet it's tied to the Endocannabinoid System. When the ECS system stops receiving its fuel, the ECS weakens and the DHT is no longer regulated.
Interesting stuff. Hope they do more studies on the topic. Would be curious on why hair transplants work if these were factors in balding. Why would transplanted hair be immune to these?
Also, I would like to see diet mentioned. When I started taking high levels of collagen I noticed hair regrowth.
Any specific type or brand or just any old collagen supp?
@@drzflyest4 : I was using Great Lakes but it was a large amount (I think like 1.5x the suggested amount). And I was on a biohacking keto regiment with lots of other supplements. Give it a shot if you're interested and okay with your doctor.
But they aren't - you do realise that almost all of the hair transplant patients have to be on fin/minox for life to prevent miniaturization happening to the transplanted follicles as well?
It's a chemical/hormonal makeshift dam to what this research and theory are implying is an anatomical issue (for the most part)
@@Totalimmortal93 No, the Finastride and Minoxidil they are taking for existing hairs... The transplanted hairs are immune to dht...
Exactly what I was wandering, you would expect the exact miniaturization pattern to occur on transplanted hairs, not saying Rob wouldn't have a response to this, but I wish it was addressed.
One observation I've made, and my self as an example is that it seems like the less body and facial hair you have the more hair you got on top, there has to be a connection, i am nearly 31 very little body hair, my cheeks still aren't remotely close to being full, i generally just keep a clean shaved face as i can't grow a strong beard, on the flip side i have a strong hairline, no balding at the crown what so ever, pretty much every single guy at my age in my social circle has significant hair loss to the point where some just shaved it all off. My grandfather have little body hair but an incredible hair for his age.
The most common nutrient deficiency in our society is potassium, which is involved in muscle relaxation. Wonder if there is a correlation there?
interesting although my father like eating bananas and still bald though
@@javier.alvarez764😅😅
no correlation. I eat 4 bananas a day and experiencing balding in my late 20s
@@mistermiyagi6073 Thank you for your single data point, which neither proves nor disproves a correlation.
@@grugnotice7746 you're coping bro. Just shave it off when it gets past a certain point.
Purely genetic, I've seen malnourished meth-heads with full heads of hair. If you have the gene just shave
FYI A common technique in presenting hair loss treatments is to combine the percentages for "no change" with "some change" in one percentage. My hair loss has been minor and stagnant for over a decade yet I have never used any technique or drug. Yet, by their metric, many of these methods would have claimed responsibility for my results if I been using them. The point is look for the parsed out data on hair REgrowth for a better indicator.
It is not only about stopping hair loss, but also about regrowth of hair.
I want to add to this theory that high blood pressure may also cause increased inflammation in the scalp. Something to look into. I also started losing a lot of hair after wearing a construction hat really tight for a few years.
high or low? id imagine distance from heart might play a part too...
@@cabudagavin3896 High. But side note. Since I watched this I’ve noticed a change. I’ve been doing it and seems to have some results. Especially around the temple. With minoxidil.
@@interestingcomments5178 high blood pressure causes inflammation? by what mechanism? and do you think low blood pressure wouldn't cause inflammation? also when I said low blood pressure it was not inflammation I was referring to but blood supply to the crown, cheers. supposedly turgidity of blood vessels is reduced with age...
Tight hats and hairstyles that pull hair can cause traction alopecia
Weird, I had a full head of hair in middle school until I started playing football. As an northern born Chinese person, my head is larger than normal Americans. The coach had a hard time finding a big enough helmet for me. They gave me a xl speedflex but it was still too small. I lost 50% of my hair in 3 years.
We need to get More Plates More Dates on this. 👌💪🏻
- I don't have history of baldness in my family
- I started losing my hair in my early 20s
- I have had low Testosterone and high Estradiol for years
- I have gynecomastia
- I have history of depression and emotional distress
- I have had a permanent scowl-like expression since my late teens
- I have felt tension around my brows, eyes and the sides of my head
- My hair loss is the typical V-pattern
- I can grow a thick beard and have a lot of hair on my body
I always attributed the hairloss to my wacky hormones, but this scalp tension hypothesis sounds really relatable.
I think I will give the massages a try, seems like probable cause.
Do you have any type of malocclusion?
same bro, i have perfectly same symptoms as you expect the V type baldness
@@theawesomesausage very slight overbite
@@yunus-emrekaplan9642 we'll need some treatment bro
@@AleksandarIvanov69 Brian Dye has an interesting observation about that type of malocclusion and balding. His theory of hair loss is outdated though.
Protect this man Rob English at all costs
I'm 48, and have been having regular, almost daily head & scalp massage and gentle hair pulling/tugging since the past 20 years. It did wonders for stress, sleep, blood pressure and by the way, there was no hair loss, as I just found out from your video.
I guess I'm not going to stop doing this.
Everything from your video just justifies the scalp massage.
Care to elaborate on your routine and type of massage? What do you do exactly?
Do you have any family members with hair loss?
@@zed2960 Been doing scalp massages for a few years as well, after suffering from hair loss repeatatly. (I got medication from my derm in the beginning, but after stopping the medication it kept coming back)
I got myself a electric scalp massager (can get the cheap silicone massage brush too of course) and I use it every other hair wash, while I have shampoo in my hair. I put some mint oil in the shampoo too. Nice side effect is, that it helps with dandruff and itchiness.
My hair loss didn't come back for the last 3 years and my hair became thicker. My hairline is more full. It doesn't speed up hair growth of course, but I'm just thankful for having a full head of hair.
@@dommy3660 yes, very strong family lineage of hair loss.
@@auroras.2015 which scalp massager did you get?? I only see the small silicone ones on Amazon.
Very interesting video , great editing and I love how he presented the information and also mentioned issues with the research
The only effective fix I know, is to accept the fact that I'm bald. Since then all is fixed and my confidence level is far more than expected ☺️
I am on board with trying anything that costs me nothing but some time for self care.
I hesitate to use products or medications that could produce an undesirable outcome, and I don't have the $$ to throw away.
I did the scalp massages while listening to this interview, and if nothing else, I feel more relaxed and got rid of a slight tension headache I didn't realize I was having😅
it will cost you something, time. Which is something most people with pattern hairloss don't have. The only smart thing to do is not to believe in anything that hasn't been tested intensively and hasn't been approved by major medical organizations like FDA as legitimate options for hair loss. The only ones right now are minoxidil and finasteride with a great safety profile.
And OP, I wish you to have an easier time in the upcoming year. Take care and keep your head up, king!
@@phee3D propecia messed with the meibomial glands around my left eye which caused the skin under that eye to develop eczema which made me do cortisone which messed up my skin there. It took me two years to pin it down, but 6 weeks after i stopped with propecia, the eczema was gone and my glands recovered. Just sayin.
Massaging the head feels great and can be done while wasting your time on the internet or watching tv.
you should try eco enzyme for free
I never knew how tight my scalp was until I saw this video and tried some of the massages. So much hidden tension released.
which makes sense. braiding can be seen as a type of massage blood flowing muscle relaxation technique and people that use it tend to keep hair longer 🤷🏽♂
This upload couldn’t have come in a better time for me 🙏
I have heard that menthol can be used to treat hair loss and is an ingredient to some hair loss shampoos. On the wikipedia page for menthol it states, "Menthol blocks calcium channels[5] and voltage-sensitive sodium channels, reducing neural activity that may stimulate muscles." Maybe the anecdotal cases of improved hair growth from menthol are a result of the scalp muscles being relaxed and a reduction in inflammation.
My hair fall started as soon as I finished my college and joined a stressful job now it makes all the sense
probably just pattern baldness that was accelerated by telogen effluvium. TE hair loss typically grows back within a year. you should get on finasteride if you still have hair to save or if it hasn’t been too long
This makes sense, if you stressed our muscles are getting tense so it result in losing hair. Recently i have been super stressed out and i have long hair, so hair loss was super visible in amount of hair i had to take out of shower drain. I need to get some rest and relax and massage my scalp to not lose my hair
This is what I pay my internet bills for! Incredible stuff 👏🏻💯
I think mouth breathing also causes hair loss as when you are mouth breathing, the tongue is no longer at the roof of the mouth supporting your upper jaw so your face tends to drop down and fall back over time which pulls down/stretches the muscles on your scalp, again causing that tension in the head just like the video is talking about. So maybe breathing through your nose and chewing hard foods to strengthen jaw muscles could help hair regrowth/prevent hair loss over time (it should be a lifetime habit). Also breathing through your nose calms you down and relaxes you more as you breath at a more slower and optimal rate. It also increases oxygen intake and filters and warms up the air you breathe.
Well said, have a look at the book 'breath' by James nestor. Interesting stuff
There's a tool that positions your tongue in your mouth properly to maximize athletic performance and recovery, I think it's interesting how little things like that can be connected and give us insight into how important balance is for the body.
As a 16 yro male, my carpet was covered in hair. I was loosing hair so fast. My cousin's and uncle's are all bald. Someone told me to stop eating 'any sugar' and switch to honey. I did that and my hair stopped falling out and my hairline remains the same now as it was at 16. I'm one of the only guys in my family who is not bald.
Maybe sugar is a contributing factor in hair loss? Not found any studies on that, but glad it worked for me :).
Hi how many months did it take to see an improvement in your hair loss after stopping sugar?
When I stopped eating sugar it took less than 2 months for sure to stop hair falling out. But thinking back to when I was 16, it was more like a week ! Even now if I forget and eat things with sugar in it, like cookies, my hair starts all over again to fall out. White and even Brown Sugar honestly does cause head hair to fall out. But Honey doesn't and I switched to it in moderation. But now I avoid eating 'any' sources of sugar. @@Mr.BlueBlur
I was surprised to see no mention of stress, it's not difficult to see how stress can cause tension in the scalp.
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@AndrewWithEase11 11 I don't see why he should give advice on breathing but if that's what you need then, Sir, please remember to breathe.
@AndrewWithEase11 11 stress has been known to cause balding, this isn't new. But I've never heard of the missing link between the stress and the hair-loss; tension in the scalp, as when someone is stressed, they will tense up the muscles around their scalp. This tension to balding link is news to me.
@AndrewWithEase11 11 what question? I didn't ask questions.
@AndrewWithEase11 11 You sound super stressed! 🤣
This kind of confirms with what I recently found mind boggling about niacinamide that promotes hair growth, but on the other side it also raises testosterone and dht levels in body
Ayurvedic text says that main cause of hair loss is less supply of the oxygen rich blood towards the scalp. So they suggest to massage head which reduces the muscle tension in the head and increase blood supply. I think your finding really makes greater sense.
Please don’t waste your time.
Truly fascinating. I love hearing about people experimenting amd sharing their personal findings
When I was young my father used to always complain about headaches, stress from work and then he slowly went bald. When I started working, long hours in front of the computer, I developed sore shoulder, sore neck especially on the right side. 15 or so years past, my right side scalp was painful to touch at times, sore jawbone muscles and headaches etc and I started to notice my hair was thinning on the right side of the scalp. Sore eye to top of scalp to temple, neck , shoulder down to my right arm right hand which I use to drive the mouse and wipe phones. I woke up to this whole tension and blood flow idea and started massaging now slowing my hair are thickening up again.
This is amazing. I've read a couple of papers and I was taken aback. Incredible stuff. He's underselling it to be cautious... (when everyone else oversells) I wonder what the effects of acupuncture would be...
I have some other theories based on my own personal observation and experience.
These were my cause and symptoms:
Mental: PTSD/Insane stress.
External:
Itchy scalp, Dry Scalp, Dandruff/Dermatitis. (yellow flakes).
Dermatitis on hands, very itch hands.
Dry eyes and dry eyelids leading to Blepharitis.
It seems my entire body was "drying out"! No matter how much water I drank.
I had also injured my neck 20 years ago and it has been gradually getting worse and worse.
My anxiety due to PTSD changed my breathing pattern and I suspect this has messed up blood flow and oxygen/O2 levels.
My theory is that due to severe mental stress as well as my neck injury both blood and oxygen do not properly reach or circulate my head, scalp OR due to chronic cortisol (fight or fligt 24/7!) my body is protecting my vital parts and the rest becomes secondary.
I have noticed memory loss as well. At first small things and now I can confirm I have forgotten many things that I could easily recall before. For example I'm a cineast. I love movies. I used to be able to name movies, years, actors etc etc. Now a lot of that I just simply can no longer recall!
The PTSD/ anxiety/cortisol apparently makes it so that all blood goes to another part of my body as protection instead of scalp.
My digestion is also terrible. It is said that the "happy hormones" are created in the belly and that also not working properly in me.
I'm in my mid 40's and had BIG hair and very thick too! In about 3 months I lost half of that!!
Derms say it is possible for someone of my age to start losing hair so rapidly, but I just thought it didn't make sense. I think all of my causes triggered alopecia and Male Pattern Balding.
I still can't believe it and every time I look in the mirror I'm in shock.
I've been taking Finasteride for over two years and minoxidil for at least 12 months.
Still my hair is slowly receding and now it's thin all over.
I wish I knew EXACTLY what is causing it, but all I have are my theories.
The theory proposed in this video completely makes sense to me.
It is a combination of tension due to either anatomical (bones) or anxiety with blood flow and oxygen.
I also have low blood pressure, but I don't recall having that when I was younger. This could also play in a part in all of this.
sooo interesting, i would like to add that excess of dopamine like porn or just scrollin on instagram raise the cortisol leves( stress hormone), people think its just being worry, but looking constant for dopamine is stressfull
low blood pressure could be low cortisol from stressed adrenals.
This guy is talking about Scalp Tension, I've always had this feeling there was something connected with my tension headaches and hair loss.
ok guys.... I'm going to try this for 6 to 8 months. just comment on this post so I can remember to share my results! I'm going to be 100% honest and tell you whether it's a must or bust
How it's going?
@@arth_chart5280 it's only Been a couple of days since I started so I haven't any improvements, I'm going to try this long term.
Here for the results :)
1 month update?
@@Muffles Im still losing hair, however like most treatments whether it be minoxidil or rogain take 3-6 months with patients reporting losing hair before regrowth starts to occur, so I'll giving this experiment the same time frame... I'm not taking any FDA drugs (minoxidil or rogain) but I will start taking supplements such as vitamin d3 and moringa
Guys, He repeatedly says there is no payment wall on his website and he wants his video openly accessible to the community but in reality you have to give him your email address in exchange for the exercise video. So he takes our data rather than our money just to be clear nothing is free in this world. And i myself am not undermining his knowledge or disparaging him in any way in fact i am using his exercise video to improve my hair health in exchange for my data. I just want to come out and express my concern about this issue. Other than that it's A+
I have actually paid for access to his entire site and it is well worth the money. Product reviews, forums, videos, studies, action plans and access to an entire team that will help you any way they can.
Figured out how to relax my head the day after watching this video. Got high and was able to figure out how to do it, its legal in New Jersey relax. Getting high is not required but I if you watch Riley Swaav's video on scalp exercises I figured out that by moving my ears and raising my eyebrows, I noticed my scalp moving. Holy moly moment. Now I thought what if someone doesn't know how to move their ears? Smile. smile as hard as you can where your cheeks are almost closing your eyes and you will feel your ears moving. Continue to do this until you can move your ears. Once you have full control of each ear, raise your eyebrows up and down and you will notice your scalp moving. Again, Holy moly moment. Now, about the back of the head. Took me a few hours of just getting through the day and figured out that raising your eyebrows in a "seriously?" type of expression did it. Do it more and more and you will notice that back of your head moving. For the third time, Holy moly moment. I tried Rob English's massages that he sends through his website and will be trying them to see if any results arise. I feel like helping do these massages and relaxing the scalp could help us learn more about hair loss and scalp tension and relaxation. Hope this helps anyone struggling to figure this out.
In my experience my hairloss was a result of calcification and potentially a lack of sulfur/magnesium in general. Supplementing MSM and magnesium chloride topically seems to be rapidly fixing this (been doing it for 2 months and seen clear results)
I only take MSM orally. Please tell us more. Did it help?
@@CallOfDutySniperzzz I take MSM internally too but i found magnesium chloride on skin can be mildly irritating and read adding msm works soothing against this. I am noticing a reversing in my baldening and need more time to observe and articulate the effects properly but so far it seems to work and i sleep better from the mag and feel more energetic in general
@@Tomorrow_Big topical magnesium? What's the brands name?
@@helloworld7818 dude its just magnesium chloride in distilled water, you can add MSM. Any brand. There is no magic magnesium.
or make it yourself, its 100-200x cheaper
I wonder how this technique will influence hair loss in women after giving birth.
Interesting fact, a pregnant woman will actually build up to something like 30% more blood. After pregnancy, that blood level will normalize to pre birth levels. Reduced blood (also noted in the video). Sadly, it appears to only affect the scalp, not hair growth in the genital regions.
I lived in India for a few years and scalp massaging there is VERY common. You have it done at the same place you get your hair cut. I wonder if they have less hair loss because of that.