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Is BlackBerry actually dead?
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- Опубліковано 18 сер 2024
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In which I reminisce about BlackBerry and remain cautiously optimistic about the brand's future...
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Joshua Vergara do you have a link for the mic you are using
BlackBerry needs 2 phones: a 7" Passport and a 7" Touch. After that it's all about performance, functions and coolness. I warned the VP in 2007 that their phones were too small and his response was, "dont let Balsillie hear you say that". Gee I'm sorry - why would you want to listen to the consumer.
We need a BB10 Q10 again. Small but more powerful with less ease dropping.
I got all of them!!I am BlackBerry fan! I think they are going to make a new one!!!they need a new partner!!!!Blackberry for ever
Priv had great form, but the performance and battery are abyssmal. If they can't make a slider that actually performs averagely well, then they have chosen to give up on smartphones entirely.
If BlackBerry ever return to making phones in house a passport like device and Priv should be on the top of the list.
if they ever finally come out with the Priv2 I will get that regardless if I need another phone or not 😁👍😩💔
💯 I’m still rocking the passport in my opinion best phone ever
A lot of people also want a Key3.
@@MrKatra14 Total agreement...Best phone, highest quality build, and BB10 the most logical, efficient operating system...none better
sdrcorbu 💯 Facts, if only it had app suppport, the call quality is top notch and it’s just a beautiful efficient phone
I really want them to make a Blackberry Classic with Android inside, this will be one hell of a productivity phone.
If they could get a Blackberry Passport SE 2 with BB OS X2 with Android runtime that can run Android apps that would be ideal...best OS and gestures for BB10. And then their was an issue with Android then saying they could not make it work on a square screen well Unihertz does it so guess it works now. Yeah or also a Classic. The Classic is the one phone I did not get. I went from the Q10 to the Passport SE. I really wanted though to try and find the Blue Classic still hard to find these days too.
F(x)tec Pro1
The Classic was actually the best phone ever made after the great Bold9900. It would be indeed à fantastic idea to bring the Classic back with Android.
@@sylvainggingras5945 no doubt
I am still using my Key2 and in 2020, I'm not yet seeing anything else that could replace my phone. 🙂
Respect!
Unihertz Titan? 😆
@@KBoon It's garbage
@@lilmoris1 you have one?
@@KBoon It's a bootleg phone from a bootleg chinese company. What else do you need to know? Stay away from those
When it comes to typing, there’s nothing like a BlackBerry, I’ve had several BlackBerry, now using the key2 and loving it! I hope BlackBerry lives forever.
F(x)tec Pro1
I am going to echo Juan Bagnell - we are losing diversity in the smarthphone market, fast.
Sooner or later it will only be Samsung and apple which is a sad thing
We're seeing a lot of movement from China, though -- granted, they are sub brands from bigger companies. But it shows that diversity (especially in price) is still desired. That trends needs to come to more places, though.
1000% agree. Aside from the foldable, we have slabs, slabs, and slabs.
Yawn
@@KBoon and more "glass on glass sandwiches" just because some company decided it was cool and users cannot vote with their money because no other products are lined up
@@jvtechtea Agree completely - I feel sorry for the US not having easy acess to all these Chinese phones; even here in Serbia it's not that to get say - a Realme X2 Pro.
I don't want Blackberry to die!
They're fine. They do security software and they're successful at it.
Me either. I'm hopeful someone will buy their license before 2022..
Also anything can happen in 2 years. As he said, it is only the partnership that is over. They can find another partnership or who knows maybe they will surprise and release something of their own - magical things could happen. Maybe the partnership with TCL and focusing on software and security has allowed them time to regroup and rebuild some things.
@@mskizzsogood5929 I hope oppo or Xiaomi makes the phones for them.. TCL was a bad company to make premium BlackBerry
Killing off their BIS was stupid...it made my Bold obsolete instantly. If I can't get my e-mail, it's not a business phone
I never owned a blackberry until the key2. I have fallen in love with it, now I know to look after it. hopefully the first smartphone that I don't change after 18 months. ill rock this another 5 years if it lets me
That's great ,considering u never used a Passport silver edition like me ...that phone was like the best phone ever . More like a handheld PC. But I've heard key2 is almost perfect like the Passport . So it sums it up in 2020.
Same here, I have always loved BB and the Key2 was my first Blackberry. It is all that I need in a phone and I will continue to use it until it dies. But when it dies, I would prefer getting another Blackberry if it is still around.
I like the way he explains stuff. Plus there is no fancy BS. Straight to the point.
I think you hit the nail about nostalgia. However, you also pointed in one of your older reviews, BlackBerry and TCL didn't just go on a "nostalgia trip". It's not like they just decided to resurrect the form factor with no innovation, they actually brought forward some serious tinkering on the interactions that is subtle. For example, the convenience key, the re-imagining of Hub, or the universal shortcut key. All tried and true stuffs that were refined a step further without being gimmicky.
However, a lot of these "product critics" (I doubt they actually qualify to be reviewers) has this nasty tendency to compare a BlackBerry to a more popular brand and then it devolves from a review of a BlackBerry device into why you should buy a "seo algorithm popular" device instead.
In that respect I truly appreciate your full reviews on the keyONE and Key2 because you cut through the noise and explain properly to who this phone is good for and not.
Also, from BlackBerry Help Twitter Twitter account, they are not discounting an effort to find another partner, so if anything, it's a good indicator that they're at least serious in listening to offers to be their partner.
Indeed, they injected the right amount of 'new' to a familiar form factor. Thanks for your kind words regarding my reviews :)
@@jvtechtea it is only fair. You gave it a chance, you mentioned where, what, why, who is it good for, and the shortcomings with no punches held back. It's something I appreciate your videos in general, as compared to most other product critics who only read the spec sheets without actually stopping to really use the products that they were evaluating. Worse are the product reviewers who readily shut it down without examining the device, and then promoting UA-cam-"approved" algorithm to chase the money and views.
Let’s be real, in the USA if it isn’t a Samsung or an iPhone it’s damn near irrelevant. Ask anyone to pull their phone out their pocket and 90% of the times it’s one of those 2. You see a few one plus phones once in a while, Motorola’s to the budget buyers and almost no one even buys lg anymore.
You said it! I am an HTC U11 User. From the UK. It's exactly the same here, and Europe
In the U.S. nyc - never had an iPhone or Samsung went from Blackberry to LG5 (while also using my BB Passport SE). Now am using LG8 after lots of research and features - never been an iPhone fan though have MacBook only apple product I like - also don't like getting locked into an ecosystem. As a consumer I don't think that's a good thing. And I find many people because most especially they are locked into an Apple ecosystem will not try other things because everything is so synced and related. I always would say to friends even in the early days of market when Blackberry was going through changes that competition is always good for us consumers when I was still rocking my BB Passport SE. And well it worked for me. I still always found it odd that there were many features on BB 10 that did not exist on Android and Apple and why people got them. Honestly and also the whole app issue back in the day such as App Gap and also with window phones. Honestly, how many apps do most folks ACTUALLY use on a daily basis that are absolutely necessary that cannot be accessed via the web or even from the web make a home icon?
Long reply but yeah you are right in the U.S. it is usually iPhone or Samsung even when I have my LG8 people wonder what is it. Still it is just another slab but for me I like some of the features it has a few I don't esp AI photo arrrgh that tags photos for you and puts them in a access folder. But I digress. I still have great hope for BB with hard ware. Still plan to get me another BB Passport SE as my keyboard began not behaving well with some keys not working right or at all.
@@greenvortex7 totally agree with you on the competition aspect. HTC seem to be done with making phones too. And Sony I think are not selling that many either
F(x)tec Pro1
I've had Blackberry since the pager. I really don't care what other's have in their pocket. I've never been one to "keep up with the Jones". I'll stick with security and reliability. I also LMAO when I see people lining up at pay day loan sharks to take out a loan to make payments on their iPhone payment, because they just had to have the $1K iPhone. Frankly I find iPhone to be junk, cumbersome and not impressed with its function. Blackberry will find a new partner to replace TCL or will make their own again. Priv was a great phone.
I loved my BlackBerry bold but I used it so much I wore it out. Then went to an iPhone but I do miss BB’s keyboard and loud speaker.
I'm 36 years old and my first smartphone was a BlackBerry 7520 in high school! That phone was light years ahead of everything, I'm going to miss you BlackBerry. Please just go back to your roots and make a secure, email communicator monster for business users!!
That's the right term, eh? "The Communicator" -- that's what BlackBerry did better than anyone else.
Maybe they are going to finally listen to my yearly emails to make an Android passport. I love that phone and use it when I can. The tcl phones were not great
A passport Android as long as it has all the BB10 gestures + Hub on the Passport baked with all the new software security BB has acquired yes yes yes would be ideal! My all time fav phone Passport SE.
I agree, the TCL BBs lacked something, the keyboard was not the same, and the build quality was so so. The Passport was the best made phone I ever had and was a best, the UI collapsing killed me using it. If it had android, I would roll it out right now!!!!
I still have my q10 and the keyboard on it is my favorite on any blackberry I’ve had. blackberry hub was awesome too. Blackberry needs to make a come back.
Blackberry for me is security, connectivity, productivity and ease of use, and none could duplicate the password keeper. I was so looking forward to upgrade to the 5G era. I still have my passport, as new, and my daily is driver is the Key2.
Nice
The only thing that ever stopped me getting keyOne and Key2, is the camera. Only if they put an above average camera i would definitely get it as my productivity device.
I've been using an Fxtec Pro 1 (landscape qwerty slider) for a few weeks and it's been great. Having a physical keyboard isn't for everyone, but I'm enjoying the choice of using the touch screen keyboard for quick messages or sliding out a physical keyboard for long form text.
Oh nice! I have a F(x)tec waiting to be reviewed, truth be told. Perhaps in the next lull, because right now it's all about Samsung and MWC coming up!
@@jvtechtea Woo, good to hear. I'm interested to hear what you think about it, given your "Who is this for?" take on reviewing devices.
TCL actually did want to continue making "key" series. However, BlackBerry midcontract upped their royalty fee as a result from unforseen update issues. BlackBerry claimed they needed more money to make the nessisary updates. TCL couldn't take on that cost since BlackBerry phones are already considered overpriced. TCL counter offered saying they want to licence JUST the pkb and brand it under their "palm" brand. I'm very cool with that move because I just want a good pkb android phone with good specs for a good price.
BlackBerry was being jerks in my opinion. I love my keyone key2 phones, but the way they handled it is just not professional.
Josh, you're the only one I've seen on UA-cam that's realized the power of the keyboard shortcuts. I was a Swype master on a slab and force my self to learn the BB physical keyboard just so I could use a PKB to navigate the Android system like no other phone out there. I feel so lost going back to a slab and I have a few good slabs around as a backup.
Mr mobile uses it too
Yes Josh, thank you for pointing out the use of programmable Keyboard as many other UA-cam reviews have, but something bout how you present yourself. Thnx!
RIP BB!
indeed it's a sad day for us BBers Josh, I joined your channel from AA and I was there because BB started to use the android os. so yeah this BB journey with you feels like it's come full circle but even to this day I would still attest that the BB OS was still the best OS of any smartphone, it's just too bad the smartphone market rewards ubiquity instead of true innovation.
oh well it's the season of transition and BB looks to be finalizing its transformation out of the smartphone business. it's been a great ride with BB that I will always cherish
You're right, it's been a great ride. I appreciate you coming along on it with me :)
Thanks for the walk down memory lane. I miss the simple functionality and reliability of the BB hardware.
I have the Key 2 le. I got bored with Samsung and had no intention to switch to IPhone. Then I started wondering if Blackberry had a new phone and found that this was the latest model. I love my BlackBerry and it is so awesome to have something I had in college but better.
I NEVER HAD ONE, BUT THAT'S NOT BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT ONE. I COULDN'T AFFORD IT. BUT IT IS SAD. IF ONLY WHEN THEY RETURN THEY COULD MAKE ONE THAT A PERSON CAN AFFORD IT. THANKS FOR THE INFO.
It will be sad if BlackBerry does not make another phone. If they do find another partner they need to make sure the major software updates happen. That was my main gripe about the Key series. I would love to see them make a Priv 2.
Blackberry is currently looking for a new manufacturer for their smartphones... Hopefully they are successful.
Exactly! alot can happen in two years and this is just business as usual for any company, they may change at any time after their contract is up and decide to pursue another vendor. So instead of the message about worrying from people let's send them support that they do find a new manufacturer or heck maybe they will do a one off and do one magical phone reboot their own! Passport SE with Android and BB Hub + new bb security features + BB 10 Gestures.
My dream will be that they come back with my favorite, the Priv! The perfect combination, large screen and sliding keyboard.
I just want to have a qwerty phone with 4G and sd card. The problem with blackberry is, they priced the phones too high.
Go away quirky bee and puppycat Stan 🤣🤣
@@fish9468 wow
F(x)tec Pro1
Really good to see you Joshua giving BlackBerry some air time. You make some good points why Blackberry can be still relevant - the nostalgia trip, innovative keyboard, unique form factor, etc. It seemed to me the BlackBerry community was waiting for the KEY3 when nothing happened. Or when Kevin asked for other ideas there was no outcome. I hope Blackberry will live on! There is too much of a legacy to let it go. Written on my Red KEY2
I don’t agree with the messaging thing. So many people buy and keep buying iPhones because they like iMessage and don’t want to lose it.
I had the BB with the tracker ball in the middle, loved it!
Spot on, Blackberry never said they are going out of the mobile business, anyway Im still using my priv which i love the form factor along with a passport and a Z10.
I wish i could sound so good like you..
I appreciate the kind words! I actually didn't feel like I was talking at my best for this episode...
Very smart, articulate
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I can't agree more with you Joushua about bringing back a piece of Nostalgia and it was Blackberry who brought it first and they need to be credited! I think, they should sign-up with Foxconn and keep their prices low for low end devices with SD 400, 600, 700 series processors and have above mid-range pricing for SD845's and prices lower than the Samsung S20's & Note series for the top end processors. Some smart design ques would great, if they could build priv series with 10 or 12gigs of RAM a SD 865 and Quad camera, with Stereo speakers it would a awesome comeback for Blackberry!
I mean the passport was a game changer many booed it down, now look at the Samsung Fold, when opened its not much different from the screen of the passport the only difference you can have multiple apps running on the large screen when you compare it to that of the passport, you can just have one app running, no overlaying was allowed.
I still feel BB own OS like BB10 would still suffice if more developers are given support by the company, one still remains Nemory who still makes whatsapp and other apps work on BB10.
I want a Nokia communicator style device. My favorite phones ever. Anything with a physical keyboard would be great in the next two-three years, actually...
Blackberry passport Silver edition the best phone I ever used . First time I held it ,it blew me away .my keyone still gives me 9 hours SOT after 1 and 1/2 yrs used. (Joshua vergara's keyone review was the first review I saw ,then) in my opinion, galaxy note 9 /10 might be the best phones these days .
Just as I thought I finally got the best BlackBerry ever made in the KEY2, this happens. Shame.
I just got me a Blackberry Priv just because I always wanted one. It’s a great phone and looks amazing. Of course it has its problems being a 5 year old phone but still everytime I see it it makes me want to use it. And that’s a quality not a lot of phones have now in days since they all have the same glass slab design.
Let's not forget to mention how awesome the battery life is on the BlackBerry key 2. It's way better than Galaxy and iPhones.
I’ve just got a Key2 for a bargain price, and it’s awesome. It’s not the end of blackberry, but the end of its partnership with TCL.
Good for you 🙂
Gave up my BlackBerry passion. I'd go back if it catches again .
Agreed. If it's there, so will I.
My KEY2 is holding up strong. If I had to replace it, it would be another KEY2. Incredible phone.
I am use blackberry keyOn and blackberry Pasport silver edition ini 2020
Blackberry still has a small office in Halifax Nova Scotia were I live. The building used to be called Blackberry building, now blackberry has a small one room and the rest of the building is owned by Bell Canada and IBM
i still am a fan of blackberry but the price in comparison to other phones on the market made it a hard sell
There's lots of companies that use to make phone's, and if BlackBerry partners up with them, I'm sure they could both get back in the game and do good stuff! You have Phillips, sharp, Toshiba, Panasonic, sanyo just to name a few. And there is HTC! Even tho they have faded away. They need to be consistent and recreate the brand all over. Even RIM would be good if they restarted.
If blackberry finds another good partner for production and can provide products at competitive prices and good design it can make a comeback
I have been using BlackBerry phones since their first model hit the market. I have noticed over the years that the people who enjoy BlackBerrys understand they are designed for productivity. Most people use their phones for entertainment, streaming video, social media or texting. If you use your phone for business and you take the time to learn the capabilities of the BlackBerry you will be hooked just as I was. I have been using a Priv for several years and it was one of the best phones I have ever owned. It is at the end of its life and I have to move on. I was hoping a new BlackBerry would hit the market before I made this change but it looks like it may be a while before that happens. I have decided to give the Titan a try. Not a BlackBerry but adding the Hub and getting used to a new keyboard may just hold me over until the next BlackBerry arrives. First time viewer,, enjoyed your video.
My 2 Daily drivers are PRIV (love that screen, keyboard and overall (slider form factor) and second daily driver...the sexy gorgeous KEY2 Red Edition... love it's keyboard , quickness, and it's awesome looks! I still feel BlackBerry devices will be back! great video! BTW subscribed!
Get a Unihertz Titan like I did. Best $219 I've spent on a phone!
They 319 now
Well at least UniHertz pushed an update that fixed the missed key presses when typing fast
I just ordered mine, I am so excited! What is the camera like? I don’t have social mediator anything, but I want a non early 2000s camera lol
Is the Elephant in the room the Unhertz Titan?
Everyone knows the Passport should have been updated.
Bring us a Passport and Classic with Android.
Lot's of guys out there don't want big phones, the Classic goes in the pocket so much better that modern phones.
true
Just like Palm unfortunately! I really think Blackberry and Palm should make a comeback!
BB best phone I've ever used. Keyboard is incredible with swipe up. Solid phone and battery life was 2 to 3 days. They died simply because they always had the smallest screen. Bugger was always better. Had they always been the biggest we would be talking about this right now. Theres no way the BB phone should die. I hope Microsoft buys BB and creates a beautiful hybrid
That would be cool
Let the world allow BB to die then come.back with 7inch passport and 7 inch touch qnx bb10 and call both phones " The Zombies"
Whatever Blackberry does, love their smartphone philosophy, productivity first. Still a loyal BB10 OS user here and went as far as the PRIV. Hope Blackberry sees this loyal following. Not just any brand gets a name for their followers, like BlackBerry's Crackberries.
I am quite sad about this as I am currently a BlackBerry Keyone user and I absolutely love it; typing this from it, and just the fact that so many people did not buy the new BlackBerry phones simply because because they thought that they were kinda crap and useless also kinda angers me as everyone that has tried my Keyone has absolutely loved it.
I still have my trusty Passport, there is no real successor for that phone. I mean flagship specs with Android and Passport layout/body (good for web content, mails etc.). This is my communicator - now after the end of support of BB OS it can do only one thing (communicate) but it does it the best and I still love that phone after those 5 years (?!).
I'll ride this BlackBerry train until I can't anymore. Rockin this Key2!
I wonder will the price come down to get rid of old stock? Never owned one. But I always wanted to try one. Always had Nokia's.
Yes, there are plenty on sites like Ebay or Amazon.
Their biggest mistake was sacrificing screen real-estate for the up-front keyboard. The Priv was the way to go, it's just that they were there before the actual market! People would react entirely different to a Priv2 in now rather than 5 years ago, as long as they partner up with Swiftkey or something and ditch their own on-screen keyboard.
Say it isn't so!!!!!! I was patiently waiting for the key 3, keyone is my daily driver I love the keyboard I've had almost every blackberry, except key2 and the passport as of this post. Passport is being delivered as I type (nostalgic value ) because I always wanted one. Don't go BB I need my crackberries
Hello.I think we must wait at least 6 month to know more,what is going to happen of the hardware division of Blackberry,which maybe they going to license another firm or make it in house by itself,and after maybe we will see other phones by them.So time will tell us about the future of their phone.Thank you.
To me the last real Blackberry was the Classic. The Passport had its own niche. BB OS10 was the best system in terms of usability, but the consumers wanted toys and they’ve got toys. Blackberry is history.
Fingers crossed for a Key 3
Me too I have the keyone as my daily
I loved my Blackberry Curves and Bold. But when they went to the Storm, and then losing the keyboard line up in their new phones, I started looking at what other brands had going. I found and bought the Samsung Galaxy Note 2 and then the Note 3. I checked at Verizon for Blackberry a couple times after the Note 2, but it seemed to be going under fast enough that Verizon stopped carrying them at our local store. I never even heard about them changing from Java platform to Android.
Blackberry was my first smartphone and I was a big fan of their phones for several years. 😎👍
Don't forget about Optiemus in India who still holds a license for BlackBerry as well.
It just sucks that people want big phones all screen display and no bezel even though bezels were really helpful to hold your device comfortably and BlackBerry was about physical keyboard and small display that's why BlackBerry didn't make it. Surprisingly iPhone is what really satisfied people in premium segment at that time. Touch big display, solid performance, premium feel. And Samsung is the reason people went for big large display phones
I think so unless Blackberry gives a surprise
haven't noticed your freckles before and now I'll be checking all your old vids to see if this some kind of mandela effect 😅
They've always been there!
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Great commentary- have been in mourning over the last few days over the oft-touted demise of BlackBerry so UR refusal to declare total death lightened my mood. I am clinging to my original PRIV and UR so right that a PRIV2 was the way to go. I get near unanimous accolades and expressions of envy when I gently push up on the FULL screen, revealing the treasured keyboard below. BlackBerry and real cash forever!
Just bought my first Blackberry Classic-love it! I too want blackberry to make a comeback.
Just slid open my PRIV to type on actual keys. BlackBerry we still love you ❤ Just bring in another PRIV series phone and you gonna rule the mobile world again 😇
Nice joke.
It's gone years ago when BBOS quit the game
A sad day, I'm still using my blackberry passport and keyone. Need actual keyboard
BlackBerry isn't dead, they just need to find a new manufacturer partner to produce their phones. I have a spare KEY2 still boxed and sealed for when my current one eventually wears out, so I should be good for a few years while they get it sorted!
Btw please stop referring to having a physical keyboard as a "nostalgia trip"; sure I like nostalgia but that has nothing to do with why I want real keys - namely that I hate using touchscreen keyboards.
You are well prepared 👍
I don't like buying a phone with a physical keyboard
There were BlackBerry phones without physical keyboard. The last one was Evolve.
I don't believe they're gone forever, another company will probably buy their rights to their intellectual property down the line. So one way or another there will be BlackBerry within another company.
BLACKBERRY never dead 👑
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In the 90s, the coffee vending machine sold chicken soup as an option. But I missed it so much.lol
Oh wow I have never seen that!
I am surprised that BlackBerry Ltd. has said nothing about TCL's announcement. After all they supply the security and other unique features that ordinary Android does not. I have grown to really appreciate my KEY2. Besides the nostalgia trip it also gives the user a number of tools to be more productive. And, oh, that keyboard! A very good one indeed.
I learned to enjoy drinking chicken broth in the hospital recently. It's actually really soothing. Never had a balckberry so I can't say much 😂😂😂
That's okay! I'm glad to get some comments back about the broth too :)
Tcl need to do what lenovo did with moto and start from scratch introducing low budget and midrange phones. Or maybe if apple can take over blackberry and make the 1st blackberry running iOS that would probably sell.
I think tcl licence rights are over
@@adr23 time for apple to step in not that they ever will lol.
I have been using a Blackberry since 2002 and still carrying one, for the past year the Key 2 is my mobile.
Just put better processor and more RAM, amoled display on BlackBerry Key 2, that's it.
I would love a refreshed Blackberry Classic with updated specs!
UniHertz might make a smaller keyboard phone than the Titan
So what happened to end to end commitment then. Mobile solution is one of the biggest part of that notion. Granted BOYD made to much fragmentation in the end. Surly it would be better that they kept making phones that they have total control over ground up. If they have left the mobile space, then why would anyone want them over another company offering the same products. Or have phones and Android/iOS become secure enough..... And with VPNs that it's just killed them?
They're done sadly, but can't say I'm surprised.
Even IF they did another partnership, I personally think I'm done. There is no guarantee they'll provide updates/supports beyond the minimal stuff as they have now and I don't see that magically changing in the future.
Shame because I enjoy my Key2 LE.
We had this thing when I was a kid. Brand's essence of chicken. Was taking it at least once a week. Allegedly Helps with learning or whatever. Good times. Stick with the chicken soup. Lelz.
A Classic slightly enlarged. Midway between the width of the Passport and the Key2. Priv's slide out keyboard might then work with the increased case width. Not the curved edge screen of the Priv though - needs to be durable, lightweight and a good grip in the hand for one hand typing.
Blackberry is NOT dead! They are very strong in security systems for networks. BB does operating systems development for many types of cars and trucks. They do make some phones, but are targeted for government, banking, investment managers, and corporate type users. I myself use a BB Key2 and a Motion for my work. I need the security of the BB phones. BB is supporting their phones. There is some talk of a new model coming out. They Key2 is still being made and is available on order.
I used to be a great lover of blackberry phones but now I can't see me ever going back to them because although blackberry might not be completely dead they might as well be as far as I am concerned
I just bought a BB Passport and love everything about it. The BB keyboard is the only keyboard with its own class in functionality. This feature alone will remain supreme against everyones touch screen keyboard.
One thing I am curious about is if there is any software from github that can program BB keys in Custom macro typing. Also, Blackberry should partner up with ubuntu. Bring back WebOS!
The first iPhone ridiculed BlackBerry for the fixed keyboard. But in all honesty, I'm forever curious what an iOS BlackBerry would be like. Using an iPhone now but used BlackBerry devices before, and dear God do I look back.
Got a KeyONE sitting next to me right now. Bizarre, the amount of flippant disregard that UA-cam content creators leveled at BB/TCL over the past several years. The KeyONE has suited me and my mobile uses perfectly the past few years and I was *just* starting to think about replacing it and was looking to see if there'd been any announcements late last month (most folks just don't follow smart-mobile tech day-to-day or even quarter-to-quarter) to start sussing out what would replace it. That's when I found the announcement. Looks like I'm leaning toward LG now, but it's a bummer BB never caught on. The market is really strange these days.
One handed typing is the most ergonomic experience in using smartphone. Blackberry knew that. Two handed? Get a hybrid tablet-PC instead. What happened? Multimedia experience combining the full potential use of camera sensors is the new must-have selling point which utilizes full screen real estate as the norm. The Blackberry just doesn't have that image. Blackberry is about typing experience. Typing is the selling point of Blackberry.
yeah I'm a big fan of blackberry too, that why never buy or use one.
Me too
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@@oatmealbrownie09 Always wanted to try one but we're a little too expensive for me. Still sad to see them going
@@user-zr4wh3lh5v yes. They were more expensive than I was expecting but cheaper than the new phones that a lot of people have to finance. I think I found mine for about $350
@@oatmealbrownie09 Very true. That's a good deal. Here in the UK the Key2 le is 350 pounds. The key2 is too expensive in my opinion at 579 pounds. I think the le is overall better value for money
Proprietary messaging systems are the ONLY ones we have anymore! WhatsApp? FB Messenger? And the most clique-ish: iMessage?
You're right -- I meant 'device specific' which is mainly true for just iMessage at this point. BBM was exclusively for BlackBerry users and it was so dope, I miss it.
I know what you’re talking about JV. It was hip to be sharing your BBM ID. I’ve forgotten what that code was called. My last BB was a Torch. Man was that cool, but terrible phone.
First Sidekick, then Palm, then Firefox OS, then Blackberry, then Essential, then Blackberry again... everything I touch dies.
The fact that have extended support for BB10 is a big clue don't be surprised when a new pure BB10 phone with a touch of Android comes out....
Rip u will b missed
Outdated hardware and expensive pricing with that awful camera don't justify paying for that keyboard.
It was not a good daily driver.
I didn't find the KEY2 camera to be all that bad, though -- compared to what we have now, of course it falls short. But at the time I was able to get good shots if I put in a little elbow grease.
@@jvtechtea it just has become a very important part of considerations for buying a new phone these days.
I think it's really weird how people try to dismiss blackberry phones because their seemingly overpriced.
It was different, was it old? Yeah, but the keyboard wasn't JUST a keyboard, it provided shortcuts, it was capacitive and provided scrolling through Google and from left to right through text, those sorts of features (to me anyway) aren't old at all. it didn't have high end CPU's but so what? They where mid rangers, they didn't have the highest score in whatever form of benchmark but who cares? Realistically, that CPU will perform just fine, and be even more efficient too. Plus, they BlackBerry phones are going to be more expensive to produce, physical keyboard, surely that has to add a lot of costs when building them.
The updated version of the KEY2 that had more RAM was a great example -- it had the right specs to do exactly what it was meant for: productivity. I don't think any phone since BlackBerry has made me feel so official when responding to messages and emails.
@@jvtechtea there was an updated version? The RED edition?