The Rivian R1S Full Review | A Tesla Owner's Perspective
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My Dad has an R1S and I have a '23 Model X. IMO, Rivian wins on exterior looks and interior materials used. They are tied when it comes to ride quality, Tesla maybe slight edge on handling. Tesla wins on driving tech, overall tech, and user experience. Rivian can fix that with software updates. If they do, it will be tough to beat.
They’re not gonna be able to compete with silicon😊 valley based software engineers …
@@raheeb1 Tesla’s first to market edge coupled with pool of top talent will be very difficult to match. It’s possible, but unlikely.
@@raheeb1 They don't have to beat Tesla with their software, they just need to be good enough for the average customer.
Good stuff. Ty for the share
No, they have to make a profit selling their cars, that's all. At the moment they don't.
My wife loves her R1S! I currently have a model 3 that I really enjoy but am thinking about replacing with an R1T. My wife’s R1S is honestly a joy to drive and there are so many little things that Rivian got right.
How is the screen entertainment. My understanding is there is no apple or android car play. Can you watch movies on it like on the Tesla through theatre mode.
@@davidaldaz3883 No streaming apps yet. The head of engineering said they were working on more apps along with the elevation audio. Specifically Disney+ hulu and netflix to come later in the year . That was in April so it should be coming soon.
R1s has horrible quality. Quit spreading lies about how great it is
Thanks for this excellent review of the R1S it really is impressive I love the looks both inside and out and the room inside of it.I also love the R1T have seen a few of those driving around in Charleston SC .Overall very impressed with both vehicles and wish the best for Rivian going forward.
This is such a well thought out video. Kudos. Also adorable “ moooooooom”
Good job Ryan. Enjoyed this video.
I‘m not a truck guy but the Rivian is amazing.
I am very impressed by rivian ofc they still struggle with some things but overall very impressive! I love seeing them on the road!
Ryan, I would love for the Folks at Rivian to ditch the 7 seater as standard and make it a 5 seater… make the 7 seat an upgrade and include the Large Battery Pack as standard, honestly I think that Rivian would increase sales by making this small change, and it would be more cost effective. Plus they need to make sure it stays under $80,000 with a couple of options. (I am a share holder since the launch and am hoping that they will make some changes to improved the stock value.)
Couldn’t agree more. I would consider the R1S but have no need for 7 seats, so if the advantage was a bigger battery pack (or reduced price) it would be a compelling proposition.
I would sell my Model 3 and buy this Full Size SUV if they made it with two Captain chairs in the middle so that it's easier for kids to get to the third row.
R2 :)
Absolutely love Rivian. Should be getting my dual-motor R1S this summer. We are a family of 5, with all 3 kids in booster/car seats. Looked at the Model X, but the 3rd row just didn't have enough space, and the lack of truck space was huge. We test-drove the R1S and will be doing another test drive this upcoming weekend, and were pleasantly surprised at how much cargo space there is between the trunk and frunk. I'm 5'10, and I sat in the 3rd row during our test drive, and I had plenty of space. Overall I love Rivian and pray they can continue and don't go bankrupt!
Have you test driven with all three kids seats? The second row in the R1S is narrower than in the Model X. It’s going to be very tight, especially in the middle seat.
I hope someone makes an EV SUV with more passenger space than both the Model X and R1S soon.
@@PH-yj5ot yeah we did a test drive with the R1S. We had two sit in the middle row and 1 in the 3rd. Everyone fit comfortably. I sat in the 3rd row with my daughter, I had plenty of space and she did too. I couldn’t say the same with the X.
But I do hope there are more 3 row electric suvs options. Which I’m sure there will be.
Thanks for being detailed and honest!
That glass roof is amazing
I think the Massive frunk is one of the most use features on this car, when me and my dad were doing our PADI scuba certification we could just rinse our stuff, throw it in the frunk and drive home, no extra bags, towels or wet floors.
Adjusting the seat for 3rd row comfort starting at about 7:50, then showing what room is like in the 2nd and 3rd rows with the seat adjusted for you was great. Most reviews just show the room with the seat all the way forward, then all the way back.
Thanks Ryan !
Cars in the next 5 years or so should really start bringing it as the Rivian is a beauty to see.
Really looking forward to have a Rivian R1S. The wait is killing me. lol.
Just got mine a month ago. It's definitely worth the wait. Best vehicle ever.
"MOM! MOM! Please Can You Turn My Vent On!" That made my day! Thanks Ryan!
I love Rivian’s R1 line.
Drove a R1S a few days ago after getting out of a new Tesla Y LR. Rivian is beautiful inside and out. Negatives were that it had a motor hum that the Tesla didn’t have and seemed to have a few more rattles. It is also considerably more costly by like $40k+. However, getting back in the Tesla from the Rivian felt like getting back into a Camry LE from a Lexus LS. Wish Rivian could go back to the pre massive price hike. Great review!
that's because no one compares a Camry and Lexus when comparing apples to apples (both from Toyota but totally different price points). Isn't the proper comparison the Model X and the R1S since they're closer price comparisons?
Thanks I am waiting for my R1s and I currently have model Y. I wanted to know how it compares
You can get in a model X for just above 70k now(7500 tax credit) and can't really build a comparable Rivian for anything less than 95k right?@@penname4764
Bad comparison. Price to price comparison would be better if you got in a refreshed model x from an R1s. I just got a new x from a model 3 and prior to getting the x i test drove an R1T and Since the R1s is basically a 7 seater SUV R1t, the model x beats the R1S all things considered.
Great review. I really really love the overall build quality of the R1S- mine arrives in 2 weeks. I do agree on the firm ride characteristics which for me I didn’t love in my test drive. I’ll review mine on arrival and may pivot to the Tesla Model X. Fan of Rivian as a company as well.
How are you liking your R1S?
How do people pivot to 100k vehicles when they don't like them?
Hatch tailgate combo / half auto / half manual. Helps when in garages that can’t open up with a full rear hatch door. And can fully open by putting the hatch down if needed.
I just wanna say I respect how articulate you are in your videos.
Best looking vehicles on the market hands down!! ❤
You will hear more noise in a liftback, wagon, etc. compared to a sedan where the back seat isolates the cabin. But extra attention to noiseproofing CAN mitigate that.
Thanks Ryan. I can't wait for my R1S after the recent test drive. Coming from Model 3 and Y, the demo car didn't have that much of a quickness but my wife definitely liked that interior more than her model Y. The question is when will I get the delivery. It's just not much known when it will be available. Until then, our Teslas are serving us very well.
this color is awesome 👍🏼
The seat folding bit: avoiding to fold the 2nd row and want to put back up 3rd row is true when you have a baby car seat at the 2nd row...
Great color/wrap. What is the exact wrap you used?
Pretty hype this cars gonna get the NACS connector next year too
Thank you for you honest and candid review. There are quality control issues. No surprises here but I wonder why Doug DeMuro didn't call Rivian out for this? If I want car advice I'm coming here. Doug DeMuro has become an informercial.
It’s really a shame rivian has not got the production numbers super high yet. I was hoping by now the production numbers would be way higher. It’s a shame, it’s a vary quality vehicle. Especially for their first vehicle. Wow
Why don't you go try to start a new car company from the ground up and then say its a "shame" about production numbers. Rome wasn't built in a day.
Rivian was founded in 2009.
@@PH-yj5ot Only been in production for about 2 years.
Still supply issues from pandemic. Many parts suppliers fell behind.
How much does your r1s car insurance? Would it be more expensive than Model x?
I knew that was bonelli park, wish I had been walking through when you were filming. Still have mine on pre-order for q4 of this year. Loved the r1t when I got to test drive. The lack of apple carplay integration was a bummer
I really hope Rivian can continue to scale up and reduce the production costs....they truly are number 2 for evs and miles ahead of Legacy Auto makers...Tesla is Mars ahead of everyone (charging network, metallurgy, megacasting...blah...blah ) but it is lonely at the top and would like to see more on the road or off...go! Rivian
I really like the idea of having a Rivian, just concerned about the longevity of the company.
That's the biggest concern for me. I don't want to buy something from a company with an uncertain future. Same reason I won't buy a GM 😁
@@brunoheggli2888 100%
@BlueToad They have the backing of Amazon, there not going anywhere. Love rivian!!!
@@davidblanchard6785 Rivian needs to cut its prices by $20K - otherwise they are not going to make it!
@@DennisMerwood-xk8wp There actually selling them at higher price configurations according too the cfo plus they will be profitable next year she said👍
What color are the rear indicators? If it's the blinking brake light it's a major fail for me.
I own 2 Teslas (no ICE), but still hope others can make it to help boost the EV industry. And as others have said, hard to beat the Tesla charging system fir long distant drives.
15:03 - The video on the right...is that of the R1S? Or the RIT? That looks like the tonneau cover of the R1T.
If it wasn't for the Cybertruck and Tesla's FSD I'd buy a Rivian. Very compelling vehicle, and a fair review.
Hello fellow drummer. Quick question, is the rear bumper super high on the R1S? Would it be difficult to lift gear into the vehicle? My main concern is my SKB Trap case. It weighs around 100 pounds fully loaded. I can get it into and out of a Honda Odyssey fairly easily on my own due to the low threshold of the rear entry of the van. Thanks for your reviews!
The vehicle has a kneel mode to allow for easier loading if necessary
Really appreciate you speaking to the charging network, even if only a little at the end. Snazzy labs asked viewers what they wanted from their r1s reciew and I mentioned charging network and then they didn't address it 😔
Sorry, man.
I'm more curious about the route planning and charging experiences compared to your Tesla, especially now that Tesla has opened up it's charging network.
Good review, thanks! Quad motor configuration has some serious advantages. Hope Rivian hangs in there, but I'm still holding out for the Cybertruck.
Eww, it's looks like a failed 80s experiment, why? lol
What was added to the right rear corner of this r1s visible at 0:18 looks like an oddly shaped reflector.
When are you gonna look into the ford f150 lightning?
Curious if that slight delay in acceleration was with stabilization on? Setting stabilization to "reduced" might remove that (as well as having it in Sport, lowest, and stiff when launching for max effect). Great video.
No matter what you try to do, the Rivians do not have that immediate acceleration at pedal press like with Teslas.
@@PH-yj5otThey fixed it. It is instant now.
GREAT review of the seat spacing, but it seems that Ryan may have unwittingly exposed some experiences that may have scarred him as a child, lol ;?)
I'm a sucker for the front design.
How did you not talk about the flashlight in thew door
Rivian R1S 😍
“Ride quality is great. Really smooth!”
- as the camera is shaking from the infamous Rivian R1S bounciness and stiff suspension. 😄
awesome review! what ever happened to third row optional?! I am rarely driving more than 4 total people so I would much rather have max cargo space. no the third row doesn't look like it takes up much room but i would still rather have more cargo space than the seating option. also, if there was no third row and that cargo rail system went all the way along to the back seats that would be an great addition!
I agree with everything you said. Thank you.
Sounds like you’re asking for the R1T there.
like it over the pickup just wish there was a 2 row opt.
I'm seriously considering selling my Model Y and buy a R1S. One thing that all the reviews comparing Rivian and Tesla do not cover the comparison of how the companies support their customers. My son owns a R1T and I own a model Y. Tesla sucks in customer support and Rivian really goes the extra mile in this area. I found Tesla customer support is basically none. And whenever you do get hold of anybody in the service area, their attitude generally come across as arrogant to a point that I find them very unpleasant to deal with.
Usually i m not sad when a car price exceeds my budget. this one makes me sad though, don't like missing something feeling.
My sister and I always fought over the third row growing up. 🤣😂
I want one of these, but a smaller and cheaper version no larger than a Subaru Forester/Toyota Rav4/ or even closer in size to a Subaru Crosstrek would be ideal. Both the R1S and R1T are bigger than anything I would want to have for my daily driver. If they could keep the same build quality and style, that would be awesome.
Same. Even a minor diet would make me excited. A couple inches are huge when you’re talking about a vehicle ripping through air. The way Honda has kept their efficiency high has been hood height. Easy noticeable when you start parking one next to every car for years. Ideal vehicle for me is a Ute station wagon situation but the R1T lowered would do it for me.
I put down a deposit on this last year, but I took it back and bought a new 4Runner
The quality, as you can see, won't be there for a minute, so getting one before next year is risky
I'm a fan, hope they become the next Tesla, but getting lone this year is clearly risky
I think you get a lot for your money. Will eventually be the best new vehicle under $100k
I had the R1T and now the 23' Y. The R1T, hands down, had the much better sound system. The entry access into a Rivian is just aggravating though. Any mode of entry (Bluetooth, Keycard, Fob) all terrible especially compared to Tesla's which works so well you don't even give it a thought. I sold the T since we have a S on order, but i'll need to delay delivery until they can sort out some of these bugs
I'd argue the sound system. It depends on how you use it too. The Y has the advantage of being able to offline download Tidal Hi-Fi. The Rivian is restricted there, so I can get a lot more fidelity out of the Y. The Rivian just has the ability for more bass and subs, but that doesn't improve the system in my experience. Either way, they're changing away from Meridian: www.rivianforums.com/forum/threads/rivian-confirms-no-meridian-sound-system-in-my-r1s-it-has-in-house-audio-system.13819/page-18
@@RyanShawtech I respect your opinion and will agree to disagree on this one. Though, both music sources in both cars I've tried had relatively mediocre BT fidelity (not high fidelity like Tidal). I paid my way through college installing high end systems in cars way back in the day, I'm older now with older ears but my "premium" sound system in my Y is too bright and boomy at the same time. There's a lot of sound fill but not much depth and fidelity. The soundstage is better in the Y but the DSP and speaker quality was better in my T. Sound is so subjective so perhaps there's a hidden menu in my Y for sound manipulation I have yet to find! All I see is the EQ with a separate sub volume slider. I also have a 4680 Austin build... not sure if I got a shittier "premium" system than other Ys.
I would think you should get a good stereo in a 80k SUV. I hope they can make it long term and continue to improve.
I agree. My R1T system sounds much better than my M3P did stock. And I have the new rivian system and not the meridian. I upgrade the tesla to the light harmonic system and they are pretty even now
I still don't understand why the max pack is available on the R1T (truck) but not the R1S (SUV)
I'm currently driving a full-size truck and would love to get into an EV like the Rivian R1S. Really like the looks and the quality they've put into it. Having said that, I have yet to see a reviewer really touch on entry height. Will my 5'2 wife or elderly parents have a difficult time getting into it, because there's no step, or is the lowest available setting (in sport mode) low enough to make entry/egress easy for them? Kind of wish they'd have kept the R1T wheelbase for the R1S, though. More cargo space, more room for passengers. Probably improved ride quality as well. Alas, $100K is well and truly out of reasonable purchase territory, so the Rivian will not be living in my driveway anytime soon. Thanks for the review!!
It has a "kneel mode" for entry if needed :-)
A lithium battery that looks like a jerrycan to hang on rear bumper would be interesting for off road adventures. 😁
I hope that the R2 has ironed out the issues I'm seeing on the youtube reviews and long term owner videos.
I feel like for $45~55k, the issues will be much easier to forgive or overlook than seeing them in a $100k vehicle.
You mentioned something about the meridian sound going away?
Rivian is no longer using Meridian branded speakers in the vehicle.
Just finished my deal on my used 22 and this was well timed! Any ideas why my climate control is unresponsive in the vehicle while operating? I give inputs , but the recent themselves immediately
Not letting your kids have control of the AC could be considered a positive as well. Younger kids tend to mess with the buttons and screw up your battery usage, also forget to turn it off. "sync" button would be necessary.
I have a '18 Tesla Model X (6 seater) and we purchased an R1S for my husband's daily driver. They are both great vehicles and have their purposes. I prefer my MX for the ease of getting our 4 kids in and out and the handling. The cargo space in both is great with storage in the frunk and the back. The technology is more intuitive in the MX so far, but Rivian's is great and will only improve with time and experience. The R1S is very comfortable and rugged with a smooth drive and handling. You do have to adjust to the regenerative braking as it is much stiffer than a Tesla. The R1S will come to a full stop much quicker with letting off the accelerator so be prepared for that if you have another EV.
The best way to describe the R1S is if a Range Rover and a Tesla had a baby, you'd have a Rivian R1S! You can go wherever but have the great technology in an EV.
Overall, we love the R1S and look forward to breaking it in and seeing where all we can go!
Thank you for sharing. Nothing like a owner of both Model X and R1S talk about both
Is there a dark theme for the UI? I find bright menus and screens irritating, especially at night.
Yes
Why place a charge port where it is likely to get smashed and be unusable?
13:02 "Oh! You touched my tralala..."
The one thing I don’t understand is wifi in the car…if anything will be a hotspot, it’s going to be your phone. The option for the car to connect to wifi, that makes sense. Cause I got a hotspot in my pocket at all times.
Manufacturers do the software updates using that connection.
Can the 3rd row recline?
Like it better than the model X?
3rd row seats have no adjustments.
I'm curious to see the Lucid SUV
It's coming, officially revealed in November.
The possibility of the charge port being broken is very high, as it is in a place that is constantly exposed to accidents.
You should also mention the efficiency of the R1S as it is very inefficient compared to most other EVs plus its idle drain. The size makes it ideal for a roadtrip but the inefficiency is a big con for that plus the lack of a charging network (even though Rivian Adventure Network is building out and improving)
It's a full size real SUV. Not one in name only. Of course it's less efficient. You wouldn't compare a car to a truck for efficiency.
@@ericjarvis3051 efficiency isn’t really an issue with ice cars. You just pay more for gas. It is a problem with EV because you get less range and spend more time at chargers. It doesn’t have a heat pump so it is inefficient in cold and has insane phantom drain.
All things a potential buyer should know.
I’m supposed to get my R1S next year but I’ll be taking my X Plaid for LA to mammoth trips. It requires half the power and on top of that fills up power faster.
The R1S will be my local car which is a shame for it being an “adventure” car
@@cwang9915 yet my R1T has more range than my M3P... Yes a bigger battery and a little longer at fast charging but ten minutes more at a fast charger isn't gonna kill me. And yes I've used it as a real truck and not a grocery getter. And the phantom drain thing I haven't seen. I lose about 1 percent a day with gear guard off. No different than my tesla. And about 3 to 4 percent with it on. Again, similar to my Tesla. This issue was known to be fixed shortly after they came out. They have a way to go on software I will admit but youre spouting talking points from the haters that are either outdated or uninformed.
@@ericjarvis3051 mistyped. I mean rivian less efficient than a X not less range. Efficiency and charging curve is what matters for time efficiency on road trips. The rivian needs a huge pack to achieve the same epa range which means a lot more weight which hits its efficiency.
The R1S would become our backup car which is kind of a waste given its purpose and size.
Quad Bosch motors, new dual-motor designed/made in-house is almost as quick (only a few tenths off) with only 2 motors, and is oil-cooled like a Tesla motor. Oil-cooled quad-motors will follow, imagine 0-60 2.5-2.7?
This is priced right. The reports on Phantom drain and the size is a deal breaker for me. I am 6.5 “ tall. My wife and most of the people in my family are pretty tall. It's still the Cybertruck for me.
Imagine if Rivian taps into the charging hardware from Tesla now that it’s publicly available.
They already have. Tesla chargers are on the built in map.
AT tires range now states 274
Loved your review, very detailed and clear. That said just one piece of feedback: you spent way too much time tinkering with the 3rd row seats haha 😋! Just because every R1S comes with third row seats don't mean most prospective buyers would be interested in this. I'd hypothesize that only a small % of buyers would actually be interested in the third row. Anyway other than that, loved your review!
Do you actually get 303 miles of range.
Younger brother trauma. 😂
got a model 3 for the price, but if i could afford one i think id be an early rivian adopter for sure, looks fantastic
Does it have a bumppy ride like Tesla?
Bumpier than any recent Model S and X. But a lot better than Model 3 and Y.
Similar to how the original Model X drove before redesigned suspension with Raven models.
Definitely like the vehicle, but the range is subpar compared to the model X at 348 range.
My biggest frustration is that I live in a metropolitan area of 1million plus people (Omaha) yet Rivian has no service center in my state or the state next to me (IA). I have to drive 3 hours away to Kansas City to get service if I have an issue. I’d buy one if not for this. They need to expand more service centers or at least announce plans for future centers and when they’ll come online.
I feel ya…but it’s a chicken/egg thing. If more people in your area put an order in, of course they would open up a service center. Considering their production ramp up limits, it makes zero economic sense to add the expense of a service center in your area when they can’t yet meet the demand of producing vehicles for the service centers they already have. They will get there eventually. When they do, you will absolutely love this thing. I’m 50 years old, have own a lot of “aspirational” cars. This, is without a doubt, THE best I’ve ever owned.
From my experience MBUX and the Hummer EV is in co1st place and Tesla is perhaps more complete but a second or third depending how you count but either 3 will do. Nothing come close exercept I would say in China Xpeng and although a distant next BYD but love their swiveling display and once again don’t is coming to NA
I’m just happy to see other vehicles. All Tesla models look really bad. So plain / boring. They really need to spice things up a bit more. The cybertruck is spicy… but weird. I bought a polestar3 performance. Personally I love it. I think it’s the best looking suv. And the on road performance / handling will be insane. Coming q4 2023 apparently
Happy that your going with a EV. However, it’s a BYD with a very good Polestar/Volvo “wrap”. 😂 To be clear-nobody makes Cuckoo clocks like the Germans! Tesla? They’ve put the iPhone 20 on wheels. 😳
Is it quieter than a Model Y?
At twice the price of the Model Y after tax credit, the Rivian should be quieter.
Quieter than model x
Quieter than Model 3 and Y.
Quieter than original Model S and X.
Louder (and bumpier) than newer Model S and X.
Watch marques brownlee's R1S review posted today
Great job
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I would recommend you have your wife join you on reviews
I feel it would be nice to having conversation with wife getting her opinion
How does the enhanced autopilot compare to Tesla's?
I want to know the same thing. Ryan please let is know. Thanks
People that have it say it is incomparable to Tesla. Tesla’s by far is above and beyond and better. Hands down. Therefore, too bad. No Rivian for me. Maybe in 2 years if the company is still around. But by then, Tesla would’ve made even more improvements. Oh well.
Let's hope Tesla learns how to make a car that doesn't feel like you're driving a recycling bin with seats with thighs for people shorter than 5'6". I drove my buddies Rivian and the build quality is orders of magnitude more solid feeling than even a loaded Model S.
Are they delivering vehicles at scale though? 8000 in Q1 2023 doesn't sound like volume production to me.
So Anyone 6'0 or taller has to sit in the front seat?
Seems like a good car, but with butterface design. It may end up in the same category as AMC cars, the Fiat Multipla and the PT Cruiser.
U didn’t use the key card at the right spot 😅
The irony of a Tesla owner talking about panel alignment 🤣🤣🤣
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I still cannot imagine how much Apple wants to integrate Apple CarPlay with these cars??
So annoying that people cannot use that apple CarPlay with these great cars.
I get that these EV makers want you to use their ‘experience’, but using Apple CarPlay makes things so much easier.
There is no way I would drop down close to $100,000 for an automobile that may be bankrupt before the warranty expires.