Yeah, i'm mainly a car guy, though recently building some bike interest. What they're doing here seems quite, unprofessional. And it's in partnership with a bike-based company too. They seem to be going for more of an.. asthetics way of choosing here it seems. Both the NineT and the Morgan have beamer engines, and they both look sorta retro. But the NineT isn't a sport bike, in the slightest. Very bad match, imo.
Sir Lord Baron Von Nico Ogentor what next EVO, a BMW M3 v BMW K1600 because they both have BMW 6 cylinder engines ? What about an R1200GS v an X5M ? or hows about you put a BMW S1000RR up against what ever you guys wanna bring
Mclaren P1 vs BMW s1000rr or Ducati 1199 superleggera. The Mclaren would murder them both and then you would complain about price, am I right? You forget 4 massive tires = 4 massive contact patches which helps you put all that power to the ground and corner faster.... that's before you factor in aero downforce.
***** The speed test itself is just an excuse for them to talk about these vehicles though - apparently still with heavy focus on the car. I'm fine with that.
The bike isn't for taking to the track it' a beautiful classic design with great everyday use and weekend fun. Not everyone wants a sports bike which can be uncomfortable to ride more than an hour that's why standards and adv bikes have become more popular than the sports bike.
I didn't read the title carefully and I thought you matched a Morgan 3-wheeler against the bike and I thought "Hey, that's unfair on the car" but when I saw what the Morgan was, I thought "Hey, that's unfair on the bike". For all its antiquity, the car has an incredibly powerful engine, and it's pretty light too boot. I mean, it's pretty close to the F-Type that was raced last time. I think the bike guys are being outsmarted in their choices by the sly EVO testers. Don't get me wrong, I love the series, keep them coming!
What's this? You kinda dressed up like a power ranger to drive the Morgan? Oh, and bad choice for the bike. The Morgan is just a sports car with classic looks.. the Nine T is NOT a sports bike with classic look.
Hi, it's not a Lotus steering wheel. The new wheel has been manufactured in house by Morgan just for the BMW engined cars, it was launched at Geneva earlier this year. The new wheel has meant that paddle shift can now be chosen therefore enhancing the driving experience. Cheers
What will we have next week, Harley Davidson chopper vs Dodge Viper. This weeks bike, just like last weeks never stood a chance. Sit up and beg unfared .bikes with limited ground clearance have a huge handicap, and the bike had no chance from the get-go.
It's weird to see the Morgan drifting so much considering the tires it was on. Were they the regular or R-compound AD08's? I love the steelies though, the car looks the business with them!
I realize that since I'm running AD08R's on my car, but that's the way people seem to differentiate the two. Although I'm pretty sure you can still buy the regular or mk1 Neova's despite the introduction of R's or mk2's.
***** Yeah I'm pretty sure you can buy both. I've been looking into them too once I get new tires on my car. Just been reading info about them off of TireRack haha.
Lol "murdered" the bike... 2 secs less for a ballad oriented bike (bad ground clearance, soft suspension). This guy have such an obsession with "cars vs bikes" tests just to flatter his ego whenever the car wins... Both are great. These tests are a bit silly : why making a cleavage between 2 and 4 wheels ? Enjoy both is too hard ?
Im a biker and driver and this is the first time i heard of BMW having a bike called BMW R9T.. This is also the first time i realise there is a car maker called morgan. Thank you evo for education video about this less popular bike.
Having owned both a BMW motorcycle and a Morgan +4, the test seemed fun and appropriate. I was surprised at how close the bike came to the car. Track times at most race tracks in the western US favor cars. There is more sliding room for cars while the bikes can't make use of their maneuverability or greater acceleration. Might not be the case elsewhere. I don't know about elsewhere, only the tracks I been on. With comparable power to weight, cars have an advantage on a 2.5 mile road course. A fun test nonetheless.
I'm a biker, and evne ride a BMW, and I like this comparison a lot. I'm slightly surprised that the car is faster, but I really don't think any R9T rider has chosen this bike because it was faster, and neither would a Morgan driver care if any bike appeared to be faster. I reckon both are fantastic fun to drive, and who cares that there's always some car or bike that's faster than yours. If you just want the fastest, you'll end up with a plane. The point is that you drive your vehicle as fast as you can, and explore the limits. And if that particular vehicle makes such good noises as the R9T and the Morgan while doing that, you have a winner. What bothers me though, is that EVO gives very little attention to the bike. We don't get to hear the sound, or get any impression of how it is to ride. It all seems rather set up to prove their point that cars are faster. Come on guys, give us some more specs, and some footage from the rider's point of view! And keep up the good stuff!
The BMW link is a bit tenuous for putting these two in a CarVsBike vid. I think a Thruxton would have been a better choice. Both models are modern takes on British models with the highlight on retro design cues.
I love how this is the only place (other than on the road) I've found the truth about motorcycle ABS: 0.85 G versus 1+G for the driver. On my CBR, on proper tires I could do 0.8G's on slick -Greek- city streets without ANY fear of lockup or requirement for attention. On American tarmac I had no fear of lockup up to 1+ G's and the rear coming up. This system cuts in at 0.85G's on perfect grippy tarmac ...
9 out of 10 bike vs car races are traffic light gran prix. Bikes always win in the real world as I've NEVER been beaten by a car EVER. Good race though!
On what basis are motorcycles being chosen? Just because Morgan and NineT have BMW engines and both are retro looking, they compete ? DISMAL motorcycle choices by Evo, no wonder the Car pips em everytime. Yawnfest
Ducati Monster 1200 would of been a better bike choice if you ask me, not even because it may of meant the bike could of come out on top but purely because its more like the car in comparision terms
Thanks evo for another great video but the track is very car biased. I am not sure any bike will win around your track against a decent performing car.
If you have enough money to buy them, you succeeded your life. The Morgan looks and sounds awesome, and the R Nine T is awesome. Eventhough the Morgan is as practical as a bike (no roof). So, buy the bike :) + The morgan needs a manual gearbox !
The v8 that Morgan uses is outdated but it suites their cars very well. It will be a sad day when they go to smaller engines for their more sportier models. :(
Well considering that the bike was built as a Roadster Cruiser, and all around fun, l fail to see how it was murdered. 2 second differance. l'd say it did awesome
The car "Murdered" the bike when the difference was only 2 seconds? I don,t think so the BMW is designed to cruise not for the track whereas look at the power of the Morgan (Not to mention the difference in the price) What car price is only £12K ? Ridiculous comparison, be putting a Harley chop against an Audi R8 next..
The BMW's anti lock brakes suck. I have a R1150RT with these powered horrible anti lock shite. I took it off regained my braking control and lost about 7 Kg under the tank. What a difference! Never back!
I'd be quicker round there on my BMX than on that BMW pos. Weighs a ton? Check. Makes no power? Check. Ground clearance of a Harley Bagger? Check. Poor choice for a comparison.
Hey guys, would you want to see a good review or comparo of some BMW, Porsches, Ferraris, Maseratis? Well fuck you, here's a wooden piece of shit against a bike, which you dont care about because you're a car enthusiast. Join us next week when we compare a Morgan to a plane. What, you dont care about planes? Well fuck you.
How about upping the auntie a bit and have a car and bike thats closer in price ?. That Morgans so basic there cant be much more to it than a bike Its about time Morgan made a modern looking car ,instead of being stuck in the 1940s.That Morgans got a modern engine in it ,which is tuned to give max horsepower ,yeh so has the bike ,but its been detuned to give a more retro power output .Detune the morgan to a retro output and it probably wouldnt go over 60 mph Dont really know about Morgans but this is probably there fastest road car ,the bike is not BMWs fastest road bike Put a BMW RR against then see what happens ,you can then buy a modern car with the £70k+ you still have in the bank .Besides how many people can afford £85k for that Morgan ,or would even want to spend that much on a car
The RNine T was designed to look good. Period. Its a rich hipster bike. No one buys that bike to ride aggressively. You can see how it wobbles out of the corners on the gas. Is not that I'm but hurt that bikes are zero for two but at least make the competition fair. Not just to look like it is to car guys ignorant of bikes. I like the idea of this channel and I don't expect bikes to win every time no matter what . But if it turns out to be just bias BS to massage car guys egos count me out...
another unfaired bike, another win for the car, I see a pattern forming here, you keep picking bikes that will lose... hows about letting the bikers pick their own stead
The reality is the car can never win no matter what it is if you use a mclaren and beat a 1000cc then all the power rangers mention price if you use a car or bike like this what isn't the peak of performance then both sides say its not fair and then you get a knob biker saying things like four wheels move the body two wheels move the soul a ramble on about bikes.everyone would have a porsche or ferrari if they could but they can't so they settle for a bike.including me.
I don't know why people are moaning so much, cars ARE faster than bikes! That's just how it is, that's why the fastest car has over 20 seconds on the fastest bike around the Nurburgring!
That's because the nurburgring is way more popular in the car world... i don't think there have been many days where a motoGP bike could do a hot lap. As for 'regular drivers', in fact it's a motorbike that's fastest: bridgetogantry.com/2/index.php/btg-laptimes/bridge-to-gantry-laptime-table I'm not saying a 2 wheeled machine is faster than a 4 wheeled machine. A car will always have the advantage of aero - there's no bike faster than a F1. However if you look at the consumer market things are very different. The most expensive consumer bikes are about $30000 (if you don't count custom editions like Panigale Superleggera) and almost any $15000 superbike can be faster than any regular porsche, ferrari etc.
You have to compare like to like. bridgetogantry.com/2/index.php/btg-laptimes/bridge-to-gantry-laptime-table See the fastest lap there? 17 seconds over the next best time. Get a real hoot out of the video for that. Bikes are not even allowed to run closed course laps on that track, so b to g will have to do.
At no point in the design of the RNine T was racetrack performance even discussed much less taken in to consideration. Thats a bike for rich hipsters to pose on. You are losing credibility racing a sportscar made to look retro vs a bike designed to look pretty parked.
Who the hell buys these piece of shit Morgans to keep this company alive? I keep seeing them pop up in British magazines and shows but nobody outside GB gives a crap about them. And rightfully so.
I'm just speaking of the way a bike moves around through corners and underneath you. I also feel that a low revving V8 and an automatic gearbox are the exact opposite of what I like in a fun car.
The R Nine T is such a good looking bike, IMO.
Whats next Evo?.........ferrari 458 v Honda cbr125. I know you are all car guys but its getting kind of hard to ignore the bias towards them.
Yeah, i'm mainly a car guy, though recently building some bike interest. What they're doing here seems quite, unprofessional. And it's in partnership with a bike-based company too. They seem to be going for more of an.. asthetics way of choosing here it seems. Both the NineT and the Morgan have beamer engines, and they both look sorta retro. But the NineT isn't a sport bike, in the slightest. Very bad match, imo.
Sir Lord Baron Von Nico Ogentor what next EVO, a BMW M3 v BMW K1600 because they both have BMW 6 cylinder engines ?
What about an R1200GS v an X5M ?
or hows about you put a BMW S1000RR up against what ever you guys wanna bring
Mclaren P1 vs BMW s1000rr or Ducati 1199 superleggera. The Mclaren would murder them both and then you would complain about price, am I right? You forget 4 massive tires = 4 massive contact patches which helps you put all that power to the ground and corner faster.... that's before you factor in aero downforce.
Sure, but don't you think then deciding the competition with speed is a bit.. odd?
***** The speed test itself is just an excuse for them to talk about these vehicles though - apparently still with heavy focus on the car. I'm fine with that.
Next time: Mustang GT500 vs. Harley-Davidson Streetglide
😂😂😂😂 Both are american, rear wheel drive, V engines and loud... So why not?
If the bike you chose isn't faster then a morgan on the straight and scrapes its pegs round corners, ITS THE WRONG BIKE.
so true I consider that bike a cruiser
The bike isn't for taking to the track it' a beautiful classic design with great everyday use and weekend fun. Not everyone wants a sports bike which can be uncomfortable to ride more than an hour that's why standards and adv bikes have become more popular than the sports bike.
daniel thompson completely agree, I love my R NineT Scrambler, it is just gorgeous
I didn't read the title carefully and I thought you matched a Morgan 3-wheeler against the bike and I thought "Hey, that's unfair on the car" but when I saw what the Morgan was, I thought "Hey, that's unfair on the bike". For all its antiquity, the car has an incredibly powerful engine, and it's pretty light too boot. I mean, it's pretty close to the F-Type that was raced last time. I think the bike guys are being outsmarted in their choices by the sly EVO testers. Don't get me wrong, I love the series, keep them coming!
What's this? You kinda dressed up like a power ranger to drive the Morgan?
Oh, and bad choice for the bike. The Morgan is just a sports car with classic looks.. the Nine T is NOT a sports bike with classic look.
True... Nice video though. The bmw was not made for tracks or top speed, its made more for cruising in town or through mountain passes
That V8 sounds lovely. Just curious, is that a Lotus steering wheel?
i was thinking the same thing! i believe it is
also the classic steel looking wheels on the morgan are ace
Cesar Chacon Yeah the wheels look great, it really suits the car.
Hi, it's not a Lotus steering wheel. The new wheel has been manufactured in house by Morgan just for the BMW engined cars, it was launched at Geneva earlier this year. The new wheel has meant that paddle shift can now be chosen therefore enhancing the driving experience. Cheers
sweet thanks for the info!
wish it had a wooden steering wheel to go with the retro looks including those proper retro wheels.
hmmm...shred the tyres, then go for a fast, neat lap. Err...wrong way round Jethro?
nex time on evo CAR v BIKE: Ferrari La Ferrari v Yamaha BW's
What will we have next week, Harley Davidson chopper vs Dodge Viper. This weeks bike, just like last weeks never stood a chance. Sit up and beg unfared .bikes with limited ground clearance have a huge handicap, and the bike had no chance from the get-go.
Yes great video! I love these random car vs bike tests being a biker myself but interested in all vehicles. Can't wait for the next one!
It's weird to see the Morgan drifting so much considering the tires it was on. Were they the regular or R-compound AD08's? I love the steelies though, the car looks the business with them!
Both compounds of AD08s are actually "R-Compound" Tires. The "R" spec is just a Mk. 2, if you will, to the regular AD08's Mk.1.
I realize that since I'm running AD08R's on my car, but that's the way people seem to differentiate the two. Although I'm pretty sure you can still buy the regular or mk1 Neova's despite the introduction of R's or mk2's.
***** Yeah I'm pretty sure you can buy both. I've been looking into them too once I get new tires on my car. Just been reading info about them off of TireRack haha.
Lol "murdered" the bike... 2 secs less for a ballad oriented bike (bad ground clearance, soft suspension). This guy have such an obsession with "cars vs bikes" tests just to flatter his ego whenever the car wins... Both are great. These tests are a bit silly : why making a cleavage between 2 and 4 wheels ? Enjoy both is too hard ?
Waiting for the following
-458 vs a Panigale Superleggerra
-HP4 vs -911 turbo
-ZX10R vs GTR
:D
Ranjith Murali
no r1? no h2 2015 r1?
with held None of that existed when I made the comment !
I don't think he understand what balance means in handling terms. The morgan is extremely loose. That's not balanced
Im a biker and driver and this is the first time i heard of BMW having a bike called BMW R9T..
This is also the first time i realise there is a car maker called morgan. Thank you evo for education video about this less popular bike.
All these people here bitching about the choices and Im just here enjoying the videos, and the butthurt people bitching about the choices...
all these ppl bitching about ppl bitching, pshh.
These people bitching about people bitching about people bitching when they're not even bitching about people bitching...pshh
+Ethanmeister Never read the comments.
Love this new series , good job EVO keep em coming
convertible hypercar vs super-naked please!
Another great vid, keep it up lads. And stop being so delighted when the car wins.
Having owned both a BMW motorcycle and a Morgan +4, the test seemed fun and appropriate. I was surprised at how close the bike came to the car. Track times at most race tracks in the western US favor cars. There is more sliding room for cars while the bikes can't make use of their maneuverability or greater acceleration. Might not be the case elsewhere. I don't know about elsewhere, only the tracks I been on. With comparable power to weight, cars have an advantage on a 2.5 mile road course. A fun test nonetheless.
Next episode: i8 vs pushbike?
Love the steelies on the Morgan. Wish more cars would come with that as an option.
I say, what's this paddle-shifters on a Morgan business? I almost spat out my Pimms what
I'm a biker, and evne ride a BMW, and I like this comparison a lot. I'm slightly surprised that the car is faster, but I really don't think any R9T rider has chosen this bike because it was faster, and neither would a Morgan driver care if any bike appeared to be faster. I reckon both are fantastic fun to drive, and who cares that there's always some car or bike that's faster than yours. If you just want the fastest, you'll end up with a plane. The point is that you drive your vehicle as fast as you can, and explore the limits. And if that particular vehicle makes such good noises as the R9T and the Morgan while doing that, you have a winner.
What bothers me though, is that EVO gives very little attention to the bike. We don't get to hear the sound, or get any impression of how it is to ride. It all seems rather set up to prove their point that cars are faster. Come on guys, give us some more specs, and some footage from the rider's point of view! And keep up the good stuff!
The BMW link is a bit tenuous for putting these two in a CarVsBike vid. I think a Thruxton would have been a better choice. Both models are modern takes on British models with the highlight on retro design cues.
Now it's time: KTM superduke 1290 vs 458 speciale
That Morgan looks so fun to drive. It just flies happily around every corner.
I love how this is the only place (other than on the road) I've found the truth about motorcycle ABS: 0.85 G versus 1+G for the driver. On my CBR, on proper tires I could do 0.8G's on slick -Greek- city streets without ANY fear of lockup or requirement for attention. On American tarmac I had no fear of lockup up to 1+ G's and the rear coming up. This system cuts in at 0.85G's on perfect grippy tarmac ...
Uh... What's with the fake stick shift in the middle? Does it actually do anything, or?
Love this series.
'This movie is proudly sponsored by BMW'
I'm totally digging this Morgan on those big steel wheels.
9 out of 10 bike vs car races are traffic light gran prix. Bikes always win in the real world as I've NEVER been beaten by a car EVER.
Good race though!
Solution for Bike:
Pull fuse for ABS. Equip Rearsets/ grind off "blobs"
problem solved
But who had the most fun and involving ride/drive? That would be the same answer no matter the car/bike...
What with the Morgan's black nissan sentra wheels...
On what basis are motorcycles being chosen? Just because Morgan and NineT have BMW engines and both are retro looking, they compete ? DISMAL motorcycle choices by Evo, no wonder the Car pips em everytime. Yawnfest
Stop complaining and just watch this sweet channel.
Pointing out potential flaws should help improve the channel...I'm an Evo fan myself, so there's that :P
the 9T is an amazing street bike. These geniuses put it on a tight track against a sportscar.
bob g
morgan with automatic shift... a sport car . Are you serious ?
ABo MALA it hit 130mph down that straight, it's a sportscar.
The RnineT is an amazing bike but still a poor choice for such a shootout. You should have tried the BMW S1000R or maybe the KTM 1290 Super Duke R.
Ducati Monster 1200 would of been a better bike choice if you ask me, not even because it may of meant the bike could of come out on top but purely because its more like the car in comparision terms
Do love these videos. Would be good to hear from Bruce the bike tester as well though
Thanks evo for another great video but the track is very car biased. I am not sure any bike will win around your track against a decent performing car.
If you have enough money to buy them, you succeeded your life. The Morgan looks and sounds awesome, and the R Nine T is awesome. Eventhough the Morgan is as practical as a bike (no roof). So, buy the bike :) + The morgan needs a manual gearbox !
Both lovely looking machines.
Psh. You can't turn the ABS off on the bike?
Why would you want to on a road bike. You lock up your brakes at speed and your probably gong down.
why have you chosen the BMW R9T and not the Ducati Monster 1200s, which is a retro looking motorcycle too? Why are you so afraid of the bikes?
Please give us some Supersport 600cc love. Perhaps R6 vs Ferrari 360?
Absolutely shocked by the ability of that bike. It doesn't look like it could go fast at all. Especially with those tires.
Is it really necessary to say coup instead of coupe? Is this what it has come to Evo - American traffic above all else?!
Another stupid bike choice. #sigh
And what exactly would you consider as the "right" choice mate?
S1000r, superduke, tuono, monster maybe?
Tyrone butterworth Any bike (even retro) with more than 2" of ground clearance 'mate', seeing as it's going on track against a sports car.
podia fazer com a moto hayabusa
Cmon Evo, The R Nine T isnt even a track bike. It doenst want to be one so its really unfair.
I want to see that battle with a HP4!
that morgan aint no track car either.
Jethro is a great host. Very clear to understand, explains things well, and puts on a great hoon show.
The bikes 0 to 60Is 2.8 secs I wonder what the Morgan's is.
Sorry your bike expert moaned about the ABS...... if you hold the ABS button down it turns it off SOME EXPERT YOU HAVE THERE 😂😂😂
How can a old car like that have a paddle shift gearbox
The v8 that Morgan uses is outdated but it suites their cars very well. It will be a sad day when they go to smaller engines for their more sportier models. :(
it needs a smaller engine, it would feel a lot better on track at least.
awesome show! keep it up!
That Morgan is special.
Morgan put a that V8 in the Morgan 3 wheeler that would be hilarious
i just love the morgan +8
Well considering that the bike was built as a Roadster Cruiser, and all around fun, l fail to see how it was murdered. 2 second differance. l'd say it did awesome
The car "Murdered" the bike when the difference was only 2 seconds? I don,t think so the BMW is designed to cruise not for the track whereas look at the power of the Morgan (Not to mention the difference in the price) What car price is only £12K ? Ridiculous comparison, be putting a Harley chop against an Audi R8 next..
i love both
That Morgan is so badass. If I had the money...
why don't you try a sports bike against a sports car, rather than a naked retro cruiser and try a race on a real circuit rather than a kart track?
kart tracks dont take a minute to complete in a v8 bmw powred morgan.
If only the BMW M3/M4 sounded like this Morgan.
fun stuff...
Next week a bmw M4 vs a push bike, my money's on the push bike
That Morgan looks like a fuckin hoot to drive!!!!
The BMW's anti lock brakes suck.
I have a R1150RT with these powered horrible anti lock shite.
I took it off regained my braking control and lost about 7 Kg under the tank.
What a difference!
Never back!
I'd be quicker round there on my BMX than on that BMW pos. Weighs a ton? Check. Makes no power? Check. Ground clearance of a Harley Bagger? Check. Poor choice for a comparison.
Auto Morgan...?
You chose a great bike but it’s a plodder with average power not a sports bike
Hey guys, would you want to see a good review or comparo of some BMW, Porsches, Ferraris, Maseratis? Well fuck you, here's a wooden piece of shit against a bike, which you dont care about because you're a car enthusiast. Join us next week when we compare a Morgan to a plane. What, you dont care about planes? Well fuck you.
not really, that's what 99% of the rest of the internet does. Don't be a miserable fucker, enjoy the content or watch something else.
This was sad :(...
I'm quite ok with this car vs bike choice, but the bmw isn't that retro looking.
How about upping the auntie a bit and have a car and bike thats closer in price ?. That Morgans so basic there cant be much more to it than a bike
Its about time Morgan made a modern looking car ,instead of being stuck in the 1940s.That Morgans got a modern engine in it ,which is tuned to give max horsepower ,yeh so has the bike ,but its been detuned to give a more retro power output .Detune the morgan to a retro output and it probably wouldnt go over 60 mph
Dont really know about Morgans but this is probably there fastest road car ,the bike is not BMWs fastest road bike
Put a BMW RR against then see what happens ,you can then buy a modern car with the £70k+ you still have in the bank .Besides how many people can afford £85k for that Morgan ,or would even want to spend that much on a car
are you some sort of pro driver?
Why don't you use superbikes? The two unfaired bikes never really stood a chance.
Would like to see clean laps in the car. That lap was horrible.
Another car vs bike yawnfest...
So sexy bike! I loved it!!
steering wheel is horrible
Those steelies *__*
The RNine T was designed to look good. Period.
Its a rich hipster bike. No one buys that bike to ride aggressively. You can see how it wobbles out of the corners on the gas. Is not that I'm but hurt that bikes are zero for two but at least make the competition fair. Not just to look like it is to car guys ignorant of bikes.
I like the idea of this channel and I don't expect bikes to win every time no matter what . But if it turns out to be just bias BS to massage car guys egos count me out...
The Morgan is too heavy!!!
I thought it would be drag battles. Lame, I rather play the 24hrs championship in Gran Turismo 6.
Put a panigale superleggera up against a 458 italia. Now that is a little more fair.
another unfaired bike, another win for the car, I see a pattern forming here, you keep picking bikes that will lose... hows about letting the bikers pick their own stead
The reality is the car can never win no matter what it is if you use a mclaren and beat a 1000cc then all the power rangers mention price if you use a car or bike like this what isn't the peak of performance then both sides say its not fair and then you get a knob biker saying things like four wheels move the body two wheels move the soul a ramble on about bikes.everyone would have a porsche or ferrari if they could but they can't so they settle for a bike.including me.
I don't know why people are moaning so much, cars ARE faster than bikes! That's just how it is, that's why the fastest car has over 20 seconds on the fastest bike around the Nurburgring!
That's because the nurburgring is way more popular in the car world... i don't think there have been many days where a motoGP bike could do a hot lap.
As for 'regular drivers', in fact it's a motorbike that's fastest:
bridgetogantry.com/2/index.php/btg-laptimes/bridge-to-gantry-laptime-table
I'm not saying a 2 wheeled machine is faster than a 4 wheeled machine.
A car will always have the advantage of aero - there's no bike faster than a F1.
However if you look at the consumer market things are very different.
The most expensive consumer bikes are about $30000 (if you don't count custom editions like Panigale Superleggera) and almost any $15000 superbike can be faster than any regular porsche, ferrari etc.
You have to compare like to like. bridgetogantry.com/2/index.php/btg-laptimes/bridge-to-gantry-laptime-table See the fastest lap there? 17 seconds over the next best time. Get a real hoot out of the video for that. Bikes are not even allowed to run closed course laps on that track, so b to g will have to do.
britishbikes BSA
Yes? All those times from that link are BTG. The #2 is also BTG just like the Yamaha R1.
I think I got mixed up here somehow. Meant to reply to Jacko...
what tthe fuck is the price? 82,500 british pounds? holy shit? .. no really holy shit... more expensive than a 911 carrera..
Bmw needs clip-ons.
At no point in the design of the RNine T was racetrack performance even discussed much less taken in to consideration. Thats a bike for rich hipsters to pose on. You are losing credibility racing a sportscar made to look retro vs a bike designed to look pretty parked.
Fuck bikes, but the part of the Morgan is magnificent though.
I expect a decent driver would have got a lot better time in a morgan 😅😅😅😅😅😅
Cars, bit dull aren’t they. Bike every time.
My favorite Automobile Writer and Demo King.
What a joy.- As the; childlick, clownish, cackle, appropriates.
///M Power
Who the hell buys these piece of shit Morgans to keep this company alive? I keep seeing them pop up in British magazines and shows but nobody outside GB gives a crap about them. And rightfully so.
boo fucking hoo.
i'm not a big fan of morgans although i do like the really old ones. and people outside the uk do like and buy them. and rightfully so.
Actually, most Morgan sales are ex-UK. I have no love of newer Morgans but you should get your facts straight.
The Morgan V8 sounds better, more fun to drive and faster than the bike ofcause.
I'm a car guy but the bike looks way more fun than that thing to me.
Fun means nothing for speed.
I'm just speaking of the way a bike moves around through corners and underneath you. I also feel that a low revving V8 and an automatic gearbox are the exact opposite of what I like in a fun car.
ok
So what? Real man drive.