How are both these on the bouncy front? A lot of the new versions of carbon appear to be firming up according to the reviews. I like a seriously bouncy runner. Cartoonishly so. Whats the current best bet?
I just bought the hoka cielo x1 which most reviewers say is the bounciest super shoe out at the moment but to be honest I think it’s less bouncy than my Mizuno wave rebellion pro 1s and wave rebellion flash 2s. Haven’t tried the pro 2 but based on the lower stack flash 2 I imagine it’s incredibly bouncy!
@nicktaylor8684 Well I bought them and like you haven't found them off the wall bouncy. Actually found my first pair of Metaspeed Sky runners bouncier or even the metatacer but to be fair I think that was also the surprise factor. I will note that my first pair of Cielos had a rubber part of the sole come off on the first run in a downhill section and the replacement pair did the same. My non engineering mind thinks they have left the rubber too thick and it catches when you lean into the heel downhill going at any speed. Pity as though not crazy bouncy when you are in a flow they roll along nicely. Certainly happens with my mechanics and see a post or two saying the same but might not be the same for all
Saucony Pro 3 is one of my favorite shoes ever, the 4 however is an insult to the 3. Gives almost nothing back imo compared to the 3. Used it in a half and def won't be using it for a full marathon. Feels more like the pro 1 in the forefoot on landing to me. All I wanted was the Pro 3 with an update to the outsole and upper. This is nothing like the 3 imo. Laces are terrible and the upper bunches up in the front for me.
You mention that the mizuno would not be great for people that need stability, what would be in these shoe categories?
I would recommend the NB SC Elite V4.
How are both these on the bouncy front? A lot of the new versions of carbon appear to be firming up according to the reviews. I like a seriously bouncy runner. Cartoonishly so. Whats the current best bet?
I just bought the hoka cielo x1 which most reviewers say is the bounciest super shoe out at the moment but to be honest I think it’s less bouncy than my Mizuno wave rebellion pro 1s and wave rebellion flash 2s. Haven’t tried the pro 2 but based on the lower stack flash 2 I imagine it’s incredibly bouncy!
@nicktaylor8684 Well I bought them and like you haven't found them off the wall bouncy. Actually found my first pair of Metaspeed Sky runners bouncier or even the metatacer but to be fair I think that was also the surprise factor. I will note that my first pair of Cielos had a rubber part of the sole come off on the first run in a downhill section and the replacement pair did the same. My non engineering mind thinks they have left the rubber too thick and it catches when you lean into the heel downhill going at any speed. Pity as though not crazy bouncy when you are in a flow they roll along nicely. Certainly happens with my mechanics and see a post or two saying the same but might not be the same for all
Any input for the Asics gel pulse models ?
Saucony Pro 3 is one of my favorite shoes ever, the 4 however is an insult to the 3.
Gives almost nothing back imo compared to the 3.
Used it in a half and def won't be using it for a full marathon. Feels more like the pro 1 in the forefoot on landing to me.
All I wanted was the Pro 3 with an update to the outsole and upper.
This is nothing like the 3 imo.
Laces are terrible and the upper bunches up in the front for me.