You can never have "too good" of an ignition system. Even if a car is just an appliance to you - you still want your ignition system to be the best that it can possibly be. Having the best ignition system possible improves torque, horsepower, gas mileage, and it also makes your exhaust emissions be cleaner.
I finally picked myself up a 67 mustang after 22 years. And all I ever knew looking under the hood of my dads car, was how badass the red touches of the ignition system looked. MSD HOOK ME UP!!!
I have been using MSD ignition for many years and works great. But there is a problem with using the unit if you have to get a smog test every year. The MSD can drive the smog computer at the testing station crazy and can cause you to fail the smog test. The smog test computer clamp on RPM pickup expects to see just one spark per crank shaft rotation. The multiple sparks in the plug wire confuses the smog computer causing a test fail when it cannot determine the engines correct RPM. So I have to disconnect the MSD and install a stock Ford ignition Dura spark control module before each test. It is not that difficult to do but do be aware of the problem if you happen to fail the smog test with your MSD setup.
I have been searching far and wide for the capacitance of the capacitors used in the MSD boxes. You mention 535v, (I assume you are referring to the capacitor voltage limit), but PLEASE: WHAT ARE THE CAPACITANCES (Uf) OF THESE CAPACITORS??Thank you very much for the great video! THUMBS UP!! ps: It would also help if you can tell me the maximum ENERGY (joules) stored in each capacitor, since from this and the 535v, I can calculate the capacitance.
@SuperDave Miorgan NO "ACT". I simply asked for one of two parameters of the capacitor so I could have an idea of it's energy output in this function you are discussing! It is a very valid question to calculate a very valid parameter, (energy). Please explain your offensive reply...A YEAR LATER! Again, SuperDave, do you know the capacitance (C) of the capacitor. I wish to use the equation E=(1/2) C(V^2). There are THREE parameters in this formula, but you only give ONE, namely V...just need one more.
I HAVE A 5 A .....YUP POINTS.....YOU CAN SERIOUSLY FEEL IT WHEN YOU GO FROM POINTS TO HIGH OUTPUT.....FIRES IT PLUGS UP TO 72 TIMES PER SPARK 50.000 VOLTS
You guys gotta do something about your new 6A boxes. Everyone in the custom car and racing world is having trouble with these things. And we've all been talking about it. We believe in your brand but those new boxes are junk. Everyone who builds and works on cars and buys those things on the regular is having problems with them. And I do mean everyone. Not even exaggerating.
@@larrywarren1049 box failures. personally, im on my 3rd box in my '53 Dodge Coronet, 241 V8 Hemi..... first one (which was a sweet vintage box) was my mistake using high amp jump start from a shop charger, but my replacement died just sitting in the car unused for just under 2 years. they dont epoxy the insides anymore. you have to get the off-road ones or others that are specifically marked as such. ive seen many comments in forums about the 6 boxes being junk for the past 8 years or so. i got an epoxy filled 6ALN box this time, but next time im left with no spark due to box failure, im going back to stock ignition.
I have an MSD 83603 pro billet rtr in a 425hp/475lb ft bbc. They don’t msd BUT I want it to MSD to improve starts, idle,and efficiency. What do I need and why is all that information not all over that product page?
Msd= my spark disappeared 😅those street boxes fail within a year I had the original fail within a year then the 2nd both barely past the 1 year warranty 😢
This distribuitor is compatible with Toyota tercel 98 L50 motor 2e carburator or what msd can i put in My motor My distribuitor have the coil into the distribuitor ??
Igniter vs Points distributor vs HEI I have a 1990 Lincoln Town with the Windsor V8. Looking for tune-up advice, how to get the best fuel efficiency. upgrading does sound like less maintenance but questioning ROI Return On Investment? btw the car has sat for 8 years and running well on warm days. but if I don't let it warm up 20* F or colder and try to drive off after 10 min it seems rough until it gets to operating temp. also after 45 to 1hr idle to op temp. it will kill the motor most of the time when I change gears R or D. I haven't noticed during warmer days dying during gear change but I have only had it for three weeks.
I have a 99 tahoe ls 4x4 5.7 vortec. i have purchased MSD wires and MSD distributor, accel coil, and was wondering what is the best match for my daily. Family road trip vehicle.
Why don't MSD make a distributor cap with a sensor in it to read the exact location of the rotor, a set wires connecting it to a ignition box with mounting holes and spark plug wire post. Electronics inside to tell which spark plug to fire depending on the location of the rotor under the cap. Plus a power supply wire and hardware, plus longer spark plug wires and mounts for them.
I need to pull Timing for nitrous. But all the msd ok some do the nos step but i think its got to much . I just need a plug set up so when 12v is seen it pulls some timing out . Any help or information on a way to do this . Any help would be helpful
Would the 6A work well with a Nissan vg30e v6 fuel injection motor that has some light mods? Don't plan on going beyond headers, exhaust and mildly ported heads, intake . Looking for some extra power and mpgs on my stock ignition setup.
MSD ignition boxes are garbage as fuck. The old 6AL's from back in the day were tanks. Those things never went bad. Bought a brand new one from summit. Lasted all of two days and left me stranded in the middle of an intersection. Took it back and bought a HP digital box which is cheaper, smaller, and puts out more voltage. Haven't had a single issue since. Their distributors are decent but I'll never buy another MSD box ever.
He keeps saying spark energy , With good spark plugs outta be good enough? Sorry in advance for my ignorance on the topic. But I want to learn enoughfor my own car. Thanx
@@chemiv-sh7xy You only need one spark to burn fuel. No car made in America fire the spark plugs more than once doing the power stroke. Not even the Bugatti Veyron. More than one spark is a waste of time.
@@chemiv-sh7xy There is no advantage because the stock air box pull air in from a cool place. Also the stock air filter and box are not restricting hp. Yes I know there are 100 youtube videos that say cai work. They are lying.
@@blackericdenice Wauw... I wasn't to convinced, I just upgraded mine because I bought the car it already had the cold air intake but it wasn't "legal" in Cali. I spet $300. Shit I should of bought the original box. So is mostly for the sound huh. The same day I installed the k&n cold air filter I was doing 80 on the freeway and the fucking temperature gauge started going up I let go of the gas and it drop to the middle again. I thought is Bcuz it was sucking in all the heat under the hood
1:00 Stock ignition system has a weak spark? I guess he never been shock by a stock ignition system. These guys piss me off because they lie about there being a problem with stock system.
I purchased a programmable 6530, after setting up, the software was reading more then double the rpm, then my engine tach. (Autometer Engine Tach, Laser RPM Tach AND Timing light all confirmed I was right.) Couldn't fix no matter what I did. NO stock Electronic, ALL MSD products (Coil, trigger wheel, Wires. Called MSD support, They had no idea what was going on. So I sent it to them, after 2 months, I got it back AND still would not work, same problem but was only 1K RPM off. I called them again, ask for a refund......The tech support basically called me a LIER!! So, MSD can go F'k themselves!! Will never buy another MSD product again!!
You can never have "too good" of an ignition system. Even if a car is just an appliance to you - you still want your ignition system to be the best that it can possibly be. Having the best ignition system possible improves torque, horsepower, gas mileage, and it also makes your exhaust emissions be cleaner.
“Single stage retard step” is my favourite dance move
I finally picked myself up a 67 mustang after 22 years. And all I ever knew looking under the hood of my dads car, was how badass the red touches of the ignition system looked. MSD HOOK ME UP!!!
You have three choices. Good old points. A factory setup. Like Ford's duraspark.
Or take your chances with MSD. Might Suddenly Die, so have backup.
Very underated channel needs more subscribers 👍👍
I have been using MSD ignition for many years and works great. But there is a problem with using the unit if you have to get a smog test every year. The MSD can drive the smog computer at the testing station crazy and can cause you to fail the smog test. The smog test computer clamp on RPM pickup expects to see just one spark per crank shaft rotation. The multiple sparks in the plug wire confuses the smog computer causing a test fail when it cannot determine the engines correct RPM. So I have to disconnect the MSD and install a stock Ford ignition Dura spark control module before each test. It is not that difficult to do but do be aware of the problem if you happen to fail the smog test with your MSD setup.
I just bought one, ready to install
I have been searching far and wide for the capacitance of the capacitors used in the MSD boxes. You mention 535v, (I assume you are referring to the capacitor voltage limit), but PLEASE: WHAT ARE THE CAPACITANCES (Uf) OF THESE CAPACITORS??Thank you very much for the great video! THUMBS UP!!
ps:
It would also help if you can tell me the maximum ENERGY (joules) stored in each capacitor, since from this and the 535v, I can calculate the capacitance.
@SuperDave Miorgan NO "ACT". I simply asked for one of two parameters of the capacitor so I could have an idea of it's energy output in this function you are discussing! It is a very valid question to calculate a very valid parameter, (energy).
Please explain your offensive reply...A YEAR LATER! Again, SuperDave, do you know the capacitance (C) of the capacitor. I wish to use the equation E=(1/2) C(V^2). There are THREE parameters in this formula, but you only give ONE, namely V...just need one more.
I HAVE A 5 A .....YUP POINTS.....YOU CAN SERIOUSLY FEEL IT WHEN
YOU GO FROM POINTS TO
HIGH OUTPUT.....FIRES IT
PLUGS UP TO 72 TIMES
PER SPARK 50.000 VOLTS
This stuff is great thank you guys
I have a 1963 1/2 260 V8 Ranchero. I had a new Holley Rapto Carb put in it now I want a new distributor MSD kit. Which would you suggest?
You guys gotta do something about your new 6A boxes. Everyone in the custom car and racing world is having trouble with these things. And we've all been talking about it. We believe in your brand but those new boxes are junk. Everyone who builds and works on cars and buys those things on the regular is having problems with them. And I do mean everyone. Not even exaggerating.
Like what
@@larrywarren1049 box failures.
personally, im on my 3rd box in my '53 Dodge Coronet, 241 V8 Hemi.....
first one (which was a sweet vintage box) was my mistake using high amp jump start from a shop charger, but my replacement died just sitting in the car unused for just under 2 years. they dont epoxy the insides anymore. you have to get the off-road ones or others that are specifically marked as such. ive seen many comments in forums about the 6 boxes being junk for the past 8 years or so. i got an epoxy filled 6ALN box this time, but next time im left with no spark due to box failure, im going back to stock ignition.
I have an MSD 83603 pro billet rtr in a 425hp/475lb ft bbc. They don’t msd BUT I want it to MSD to improve starts, idle,and efficiency. What do I need and why is all that information not all over that product page?
Apoyo la marca MSD 100% desde Caracas Venezuela
What about the SF, Stret fire?
Msd= my spark disappeared 😅those street boxes fail within a year I had the original fail within a year then the 2nd both barely past the 1 year warranty 😢
This distribuitor is compatible with Toyota tercel 98 L50 motor 2e carburator or what msd can i put in My motor My distribuitor have the coil into the distribuitor ??
I had the 6BTM and had it stolen by a guy in a shop when he was to get my car started. He said that he always had a better.
He always did have it better
How this work if you're using your sniper unit to control the timing?
So what do you recommend for a 1986 Lincoln Town Car for with the 5.0
I use a 6al but that new one is probly next gen
Igniter vs Points distributor vs HEI
I have a 1990 Lincoln Town with the Windsor V8. Looking for tune-up advice, how to get the best fuel efficiency. upgrading does sound like less maintenance but questioning ROI Return On Investment? btw the car has sat for 8 years and running well on warm days. but if I don't let it warm up 20* F or colder and try to drive off after 10 min it seems rough until it gets to operating temp. also after 45 to 1hr idle to op temp. it will kill the motor most of the time when I change gears R or D. I haven't noticed during warmer days dying during gear change but I have only had it for three weeks.
I have a 99 tahoe ls 4x4 5.7 vortec. i have purchased MSD wires and MSD distributor, accel coil, and was wondering what is the best match for my daily. Family road trip vehicle.
The stock system is all you need. It only take one spark per cycle to run your engine.
@JP JP You would notice a misfire and the cel would come on. This is why I say these guys are full of Clay Davis.
Which would you recommend for 1999 Chevy 3500 7.4 vortec with oval port heads?
i hope you all can fix the msd for LS i am seeing alot of them going out i wont to put a ls in my k2500 annd not get broke down
What's up guys! What msd ignition box should I use for a 2010 mustang GT? I need your help!
What ignition system should i put in my 2005 tundra truck 4.7 stock?
How instal msd 6al2 on xj 2001??
some body now about the diagram??
Why don't MSD make a distributor cap with a sensor in it to read the exact location of the rotor, a set wires connecting it to a ignition box with mounting holes and spark plug wire post. Electronics inside to tell which spark plug to fire depending on the location of the rotor under the cap. Plus a power supply wire and hardware, plus longer spark plug wires and mounts for them.
That's the job of the stator, hall effect switch. To send the signal .
I need to pull Timing for nitrous. But all the msd ok some do the nos step but i think its got to much . I just need a plug set up so when 12v is seen it pulls some timing out . Any help or information on a way to do this . Any help would be helpful
If the spark too huge it will create a knocking right? Isn't that dangerous?
Shorten the gap of the spark plugs
I want to put it on a 2.3 Ford 4 cyl how do I do that with the 6200 msd
Would the 6A work well with a Nissan vg30e v6 fuel injection motor that has some light mods?
Don't plan on going beyond headers, exhaust and mildly ported heads, intake .
Looking for some extra power and mpgs on my stock ignition setup.
Your stock ignition system is more than enough.
@@blackericdenice thanks.
What else should I do to help fuel flow and electrical system?
Will the 6btm work with nos?
MSD ignition boxes are garbage as fuck. The old 6AL's from back in the day were tanks. Those things never went bad. Bought a brand new one from summit. Lasted all of two days and left me stranded in the middle of an intersection. Took it back and bought a HP digital box which is cheaper, smaller, and puts out more voltage. Haven't had a single issue since. Their distributors are decent but I'll never buy another MSD box ever.
Quartermile Performance
Does MSD work with VVT?
Nah
How to limmit revs in the msd 6201?
If your stock ignition system is working correctly. Installing a MSD is a waste of money.
He keeps saying spark energy ,
With good spark plugs outta be good enough? Sorry in advance for my ignorance on the topic. But I want to learn enoughfor my own car. Thanx
@@chemiv-sh7xy You only need one spark to burn fuel. No car made in America fire the spark plugs more than once doing the power stroke. Not even the Bugatti Veyron. More than one spark is a waste of time.
@@blackericdenice oh I see. What about the cold air intake do see an advantage in that change
@@chemiv-sh7xy There is no advantage because the stock air box pull air in from a cool place. Also the stock air filter and box are not restricting hp. Yes I know there are 100 youtube videos that say cai work. They are lying.
@@blackericdenice Wauw... I wasn't to convinced, I just upgraded mine because I bought the car it already had the cold air intake but it wasn't "legal" in Cali. I spet $300. Shit I should of bought the original box. So is mostly for the sound huh. The same day I installed the k&n cold air filter I was doing 80 on the freeway and the fucking temperature gauge started going up I let go of the gas and it drop to the middle again. I thought is Bcuz it was sucking in all the heat under the hood
My question is has anyone dyno their car before and after to see the power gains?
I read about one years ago in a hot rod magazine.
1, one, horsepower increase.
hi, which do you recommend for 1976 corvette l82 350? thanks
A Ford
1:00 Stock ignition system has a weak spark? I guess he never been shock by a stock ignition system. These guys piss me off because they lie about there being a problem with stock system.
If you're running a stock ignition system on your muscle car you're cheating yourself.
@JPS JPS, I totally disagree.
It's not that there is anything wrong with stock, but if you are running modified fuel or intake, why wouldn't you up the spark?
@@Treaxvour Why would you buy 200 mph tires if your car only run 109.675 mph in the quarter?
@@Promoney22 That's what they want you to believe so you will buy their bs.
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Grenatelli is the way to go....
ATI?
Does the 6al have a 2 step feature?
Yes I believe it's built in
The 6AL-2 does
Too much ! 6a is enough for me 😅
Street Fire didn't last long.
So do I need a msd6AL and the 6AL-2 plus the retard switch . Plus i am not runing a carb so will this still work
I purchased a programmable 6530, after setting up, the software was reading more then double the rpm, then my engine tach.
(Autometer Engine Tach, Laser RPM Tach AND Timing light all confirmed I was right.)
Couldn't fix no matter what I did. NO stock Electronic, ALL MSD products (Coil, trigger wheel, Wires. Called MSD support,
They had no idea what was going on. So I sent it to them, after 2 months, I got it back AND still would not work, same problem but was only 1K RPM off.
I called them again, ask for a refund......The tech support basically called me a LIER!!
So, MSD can go F'k themselves!! Will never buy another MSD product again!!
MSD = overpriced, poor quality crap, never again
1ST AND FOREMOST DON'T BUY MSD
Holley did. /shrug
Is it me or does the guy sound tongue tied