How to Correctly Install and Troubleshoot your MSD Digital 6AL Ignition Box

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  • @johnmcdonald1293
    @johnmcdonald1293 2 роки тому +1

    That was the best instruction video I have seen in a long time great work from Australia THANKS

  • @mrgears
    @mrgears 3 роки тому +6

    Thanks for this video -- by far the most informative one I've seen

  • @pd2865
    @pd2865 3 роки тому +6

    Great video. I have had the same MSD box for 25 years, still running. Question: Do you need to put an inline fuse from the battery to the MSD box. ever in the, and do you ever run the box through a relay? The relay using the trigger wire would be a great anti theft adition.

  • @barrykilts4506
    @barrykilts4506 2 роки тому +2

    Is there a particular coil that’s better or worse for this box?one thing I’ve always liked about MSD is they’re always there standing behind their product

  • @Hot80s
    @Hot80s 3 роки тому +1

    That AAR looks GRR

  • @dlafrontis6224
    @dlafrontis6224 Рік тому +1

    Very informative, thank you sir

  • @RYTHMICRIOT
    @RYTHMICRIOT 3 роки тому +36

    This guy: "Make sure you route your spark wires away from high heat sources"
    Me: Laughs in headers

    • @davidmanvelian4941
      @davidmanvelian4941 3 роки тому +2

      This was a big problem with me lol. I ended up buying a set of high heat plug wire insulators like shown in the video at 8:33 .

    • @RoriTwinTailedFox
      @RoriTwinTailedFox 2 роки тому +1

      Laughs in 22r

  • @originalfiremancancelled7303
    @originalfiremancancelled7303 3 роки тому +1

    how the heck do you hook a tack a up to this it says in some videos you need an adapter but even that has no place to plug in to the Ignition

  • @modifiedG54B
    @modifiedG54B Рік тому +2

    What diode ohm do I need?

  • @Nicolas-om1bv
    @Nicolas-om1bv 3 роки тому

    Hey how you doing ?
    I have 67 mustang 289 and instal distributor msd + msd ignition box I instal all and no Spark Plug in the cylinders and when I instal the old distributor it's works.
    What's the problem you think ?
    Thank you

  • @gaspargarcia4177
    @gaspargarcia4177 9 місяців тому +1

    Do I need a coil to connect the box or it is only hei distributor msd box?

  • @clio16v
    @clio16v 4 роки тому

    Can i install on my renault clio f7/p engine?

  • @dewaynemitchell3931
    @dewaynemitchell3931 11 місяців тому

    Question if im replacing my HEI distributor to an msd pro billet with a msd 6al-2 box do i have to take that module thing out of the msd distributor like you have to with an HEI thanks

  • @awangsuherman3614
    @awangsuherman3614 3 роки тому

    Hello..Msd can use for engine y60 TB42 nissan patrol?

  • @Drix_76
    @Drix_76 3 роки тому +1

    What if I have spark, but it's intermittent? When I ground the white wire, it sparks, sort of, most of the time?

  • @hawaiianboiii5020
    @hawaiianboiii5020 Рік тому

    Is it okay to install in a stock ka24de? A 4 cylinder. I wont need bigger injectors or anything?

  • @johnmilner7603
    @johnmilner7603 4 роки тому

    I use the MSD 6420 box in my 1970 Z28 with Crane XR-i ignition module in my points distributor. I have the box mounted beside the battery mounted in a home made metal bracket using an inner fender bolt to hold it in place.

  • @dano7480
    @dano7480 Рік тому

    What if the car runs for a certain period of time and then it shuts off with the box flashing 5 times? I can turn it off and back on and it will start right back up? Thanks for any help

  • @user-gl2hu4pw6o
    @user-gl2hu4pw6o 2 роки тому

    Hello, can you install it on BK1 V6 engine?

  • @hectorcoronel1144
    @hectorcoronel1144 4 роки тому +7

    Great video, how about a video to install a MSD-6AL2 to HEI DISTRIBUTOR. Do I need a solid state relay for this install?

  • @fastmonaro05
    @fastmonaro05 4 роки тому +1

    Good video.

  • @ricerneon399
    @ricerneon399 Рік тому

    What about on my 94 3 cylinder geo metro. Its a different style coil

  • @varmint223
    @varmint223 2 роки тому

    I did the white wire test coil sparked one time and not agin the light comes on flashing 5 times then stops it will flash when turning it over but then sum times it won’t

  • @motox766
    @motox766 2 роки тому

    What if I have the complete system installed and as I turn the distributor by hand to make sure #1 is ready to fire and find spark there is no spark?

  • @roygustafson7729
    @roygustafson7729 3 роки тому +1

    Great Videos 🙏 Incredible Content Buddy 💪😎👍💯💢🍀🥦

  • @trucktacos
    @trucktacos 8 місяців тому

    I own a 2003 dodge ram van 5.9l. I bought MSD 6A and I'm working on wiring. I want you to tell me which line of my car the white line from MSD should connect to. I'm really in trouble.

  • @quentinsmith09
    @quentinsmith09 4 роки тому +1

    Man I’m struggling with my 6al... 95 mustang GT it’ll flash five times but still start. It’ll run for a little bit. Even days. With a Little Miss in it And a sputtering idle... then out of nowhere it’ll break down and won’t start for a while. It’s even backfired if you times. I’m just really stuck I replace distributor Cap and rotor. I don’t even make the car not ride right the shift doesn’t feel right when is acting up and about to die... Sometimes it will fire up perfect And run great... New plugs new wires the only codes I’m picking up the EGR which has been removed. Thermactor Air system and left and right side which would be the smoke pump It’s sure it’s been removed as well... I’m still gonna do the field test tomorrow any information would be helpful I can upload videos as well

  • @timsimons8946
    @timsimons8946 2 роки тому

    How to get stock tach to read correctly with msd box. It's reading double

  • @hectorhernandez2116
    @hectorhernandez2116 2 роки тому

    I tested my msd 6al w/key on (not turning over engine) Msd is connected.i did my test w/pick up wires. Not the(wht) and my starter started spinning i had to disconnect the battery for it to stop.Why did this happen?

  • @davidnee6157
    @davidnee6157 2 місяці тому

    Just purchase week and a half ago, the 6530, also using trigger wheel.
    Software reading double the RPM that my tachometer is reading.
    And yes, I changed the software to the correct total cylinders in the tree.
    2 different Tech support guys had no answer to this problem.....I just sent it back so they can look inside the box.
    Hope they find the problem!

  • @triyosusilo811
    @triyosusilo811 3 місяці тому

    Is it safe to fit MSD 6A to non resistance spark plug?

  • @Treaxvour
    @Treaxvour 3 роки тому

    What if I have coil on plug?

  • @peterfrancis3865
    @peterfrancis3865 3 роки тому

    What's in the msd box

  • @blues4478
    @blues4478 10 місяців тому

    Can I using msd box to my car VDO..

  • @juanguzman2954
    @juanguzman2954 2 роки тому

    Intalled msd 6A in Mazda b2000 rpm clock not work
    Help me thank

  • @Nicolas-om1bv
    @Nicolas-om1bv 3 роки тому

    Hey great video!!
    I have 67 mustang and I installed the 6AL ignition and I don't have Spark plugs

    • @weskirkland5850
      @weskirkland5850 10 місяців тому +3

      You should get some spark plugs. It will run a lot better with them.

  • @davedoolttle345
    @davedoolttle345 Місяць тому

    6425 6AL key on Engine off I get 1 led blink then goes out, what could possibly be why not getting 5 blinks ? Triggers as I am cranking, car starts and runs, is my box not working properly?

  • @SERGIO-mf8gl
    @SERGIO-mf8gl 12 днів тому

    I just want to know if MSD ignition systems are compatible with my 1985 Ford Bronco XLT V8 351W and if it’s worth buying them?🧐

  • @matijamaric7989
    @matijamaric7989 3 роки тому +1

    I'm working on 16v project VW scirocco on carbs. My distributor doesn't have vacuum so now without ecu I have spark on 0°
    Will MSD with higher rpm send spark earlier or it will be the same?

    • @etterbakk
      @etterbakk 3 роки тому +1

      Get a peugeot 205 gti ignition

    • @etterbakk
      @etterbakk 3 роки тому

      This box doesnot change the timing. And your timing is much to late. At leat 10 to 16 before tdc. Depending on your cam

  • @luckap79
    @luckap79 3 роки тому +6

    What are these for ?

    • @elijahsellers3727
      @elijahsellers3727 2 роки тому

      Old cars, fixing them up and changing the ignition system

  • @meyou4332
    @meyou4332 Рік тому

    Msd ignition part #6420 how to hook up tachometer

  • @kimberlysilenge734
    @kimberlysilenge734 Рік тому

    can you fit that msd on a vw jetta 3 8v carburator engine?

    • @weskirkland5850
      @weskirkland5850 10 місяців тому

      check summit racing. it will tell you what fits

  • @sportsmansparadice42
    @sportsmansparadice42 3 роки тому +2

    How do I get it to work in my 1990 corvette?

    • @gordocarbo
      @gordocarbo 2 місяці тому

      Leave the HEI in there, no need in that car

  • @gordocarbo
    @gordocarbo 2 місяці тому

    Summit (msd) sbc igntion box, dist.
    Recently developed a crank/no start or hard start condition
    Used to run Summit brand 8mm wires always fired up
    Put Napa premium Belden 8mm on.
    Could this be an issue? Meaning too much resistance? Everything in the car is brand new .Wires nuts bolts you name it.
    Tired of throwing parts and on disability cant afford to
    Thx
    PS Neighbor insisted on buying me the fancy NGK platinum?? plugs are those any good or just stick to Autolite 3924?
    WAnt to trust this car again

  • @kellymontoya3258
    @kellymontoya3258 3 роки тому

    My tachs not working any ideas 73 chall mad box ,distributor, and coil grey wire for tach

  • @dennislosing8800
    @dennislosing8800 8 місяців тому

    Ivd run msd boxes in dirt circle track and never had a failure

  • @paulfritz4498
    @paulfritz4498 3 роки тому

    I do not get 12v on my orange wire on my msd box how can I fix it

    • @paulfritz4498
      @paulfritz4498 3 роки тому +1

      @Cam montreuil engines I found that my 12 volt on battery supply was of not working

  • @RYTHMICRIOT
    @RYTHMICRIOT 3 роки тому +1

    The thumbnail shows the ignition box attached to the firewall, with the red led indicator on. Yet, there are no mounting screws in the mounting holes. What witchcraft is this?

  • @MinionnitrousBHPtoBHP
    @MinionnitrousBHPtoBHP 4 роки тому +1

    I need a msd to pull timing can u help
    I got a 2003 1.8L turbo
    On nitrus so i need to retarded timimg by 2/4 maybe
    It's a wet kit.
    Anyway i see the 6msd and the msd6AL bit I still domt no what to get. Utube only show your kits goimg to a distributor cap. So no good. Please can u help me. I need to no what msd box or control box and what do i need to go with it to pull timimg. Not looking for a 2or 3 stage timing pull
    Just to run my nos safely when spraying. So i can set it at 2or4 retard as I pull away had spray . Can u help and give me or tell me how do i hock it up . All vids go to the coil big roumd thing old school then to the distributor cap. I even no how two wire and MSD box up to the points on a distributor cap now. Lol but that's not what I want or need help with can u help

  • @jpetruzzelli13
    @jpetruzzelli13 3 роки тому +1

    If the battery is in the trunk, where should I get power for the MSD box?

    • @culbycars
      @culbycars 3 роки тому +3

      Run the thick red wire to power side of starter solenoid and ground strap on engine to frame for negative

    • @b.c4066
      @b.c4066 Рік тому +1

      @@culbycars no, run it directly to the battery, just like the instructions say to do.

    • @weskirkland5850
      @weskirkland5850 10 місяців тому

      Run it to your main power distribution in the front of the car.

  • @robertclymer6948
    @robertclymer6948 4 роки тому +3

    I run this same box. Good video. This gentleman talks a little too fast though.

    • @johngranato2673
      @johngranato2673 3 роки тому +1

      Yep, I just lowered the play-back speed.

  • @mekanikobai9106
    @mekanikobai9106 3 роки тому

    its normal orange wire from msd to ignition coil,after key on,no possitive voltage?

    • @michaelgilly2423
      @michaelgilly2423 3 роки тому

      Msd will say yes there wrong I had 2 new ones there cheap made in china older ones better how can a coil work without 12 v to + side of coil mad was trying to tell me it's normal..lol joke the wires inside box are cheap brittle try progressive ingnition new but cool you can also use just a ,4 pin GMC ingnition module msd even makes one ..msd ignition boxes are junk

    • @etterbakk
      @etterbakk 3 роки тому

      @@michaelgilly2423 the coil gets a pulsed voltage only when it should spark. This voltage is higher then the normal voltage. And is not constant

    • @michaelgilly2423
      @michaelgilly2423 3 роки тому

      2 boxes same 4 volts even wen cranking ...never gets close to 12 volts boxes do not work

    • @michaelgilly2423
      @michaelgilly2423 3 роки тому

      So how does it start also wen running how would it ever show a dip at coil not to mention at rpm how would it have time to pause the 12 volt ? There's no time box has power shows pulse from distributor ..won't start because no 12 volts at coil..lol it's negative volts my brother reminded me tested with 2 new boxes 4 different new coils spark from coil solo weak...12 volt power from key to red wire 2 wires to ingnition 2 to coil plus there +- to battery simple seen read slot on thoes boxes not working rite or they work then not from plastic piece falls off breaks thin wire goes to coil how could it not have 12 volt at coil ??? To start plus it's fiering all the time so it's gonna be 12 volt all the time has no time to go to 0 volts then fire again every ingnition system has 12 volts or ran thru ballets but always shows power wen cranking there's nothing no volts at all

    • @michaelgilly2423
      @michaelgilly2423 3 роки тому

      No they will say yes but it's BS ....there trying to say it only has 12 volts wen foreign..lol so that all the time I tried 2 boxes 4 coils same nothing I went back to my gm 4 pin on my Mopar ...boxes are junk...no 12 volt at coil.ok wat about wen cranking?? Still none

  • @deanhicks4983
    @deanhicks4983 3 роки тому +2

    On the fence with this product, what’s its actual benefit? Do I need to run this with my MSD coil & distributor or is this just to allow me to control my rev limiter?
    I’m curious because all the information and comments seem to show people reporting issues with 6AL, seems to be that it’s not worth the headache.

    • @johnmilner7603
      @johnmilner7603 3 роки тому +1

      The box gives you strong multiple sparks which are greater than a stock ignition system. I have a 6AL model 6420 which is analog and not digital cause I didn’t want the known failures of the digital box since the new boxes are made in China. Pick up a used one that was made in USA.

    • @johngranato2673
      @johngranato2673 3 роки тому

      @@johnmilner7603 Yep, I have the same U.S. box. Running for decades w/o a problem. It's also under my dash and away from heat.

    • @pd2865
      @pd2865 3 роки тому +3

      I have had this same box on my 1965 Mustang 289 using a 1985 5.0 stock Ford distributor, stock cap and rotors and 1985 stock Standard Igniiton coil for 35 years. It still runs perfect. And in 35 years I have the same components: distributor cap & rotor , coil, plugs, plug wires. I have never touched it since I installed it. Now I can't comment on any made in china box. But my US made box is great. And now having the internet and videos, great. 35 years ago I had the manual. Engine: 289 bored 40 over, REED cam, dual plane manifold with a 650 Holley, roller rockers, 5spd TREMEC, aluminium drive shaft, 3:55 possy dif. And for anyone who had read this far, if you want to know my personal modification using all original parts to get the car to handle better than a Shelby Mustang, and no nose dive. The car sits level, with 1968 Mustang big block coils with 1/3rd coil cut off. The trick is a little mod on the upper contro arms. When installing new upper control arm bushings shift the shaft rearward giving you more caster. And I hardly have any shims, whcih almost hard mounts the upper arms to the frame. Finish it off with a half leaf on the rear leaf spring. One inch from and 11/16th rear sway bars using adjustabe heim joints. My small claims to fame as a custom car builder: I built a AC Cobra that holds the track record at Road Atlanta and I built the prototype AC Cobra for Exicalibur Motors. I miss those days.

  • @weskirkland5850
    @weskirkland5850 10 місяців тому

    You guys need to contact support for questions and problems. They will not answer them here.

  • @michaelgilly2423
    @michaelgilly2423 3 роки тому

    Ya call them they will say box bad or coil I had 2 new boxes and 4 good coils they expect you to test you wires apart wen it's there boxes weak!!!

  • @Nomad-376
    @Nomad-376 2 роки тому

    red wire to what

    • @therealbenavis
      @therealbenavis 4 місяці тому

      Red to ignition on, make sure it's hot during cranking as well.

  • @areess6209
    @areess6209 3 роки тому +23

    This makes zero sense to me.

    • @jamesirving1085
      @jamesirving1085 Рік тому +1

      😂😂😂

    • @davidbynoe1083
      @davidbynoe1083 Рік тому +1

      That was kind of funny about not making sense especially if you have little knowledge of a basic distributor with a point system 🫤. I do believe if you're really into getting the most out of your vehicle you would put the effort into it it would be very well and a learning experience good luck.

    • @chiefexecutive
      @chiefexecutive 6 місяців тому

      Me neither. I have one on my satellite and no clue how it works.

    • @terryschnereger8531
      @terryschnereger8531 13 днів тому

      Neither does joe biden.

  • @jesse75
    @jesse75 8 місяців тому

    Those boxes run hot. No heat sinks.

  • @gregoryl8374
    @gregoryl8374 2 роки тому +1

    A lot of failures reported as My Spark Disappeared.

  • @erica8664
    @erica8664 3 роки тому +3

    lol try calling MSD for help, right away holley comes on and says they are experiencing higher than normal call volume and wait times maybe longer that usual. bullshit they have been saying that for the last 2 years no matter what time you call.

    • @TheRoyJames
      @TheRoyJames 3 роки тому

      CoViD is the new excuse for piss poor customer service by companies

  • @vmwindustries
    @vmwindustries 3 роки тому

    Brought my car to a garage, and they stole my ignition! So pissed!

    • @yourmom705
      @yourmom705 3 роки тому

      They stole my battery

    • @TheWarbut13
      @TheWarbut13 3 роки тому

      @Cam montreuil engines why are these junk? I know nothing about them . Wanting to boost spark on my toyota 3k corolla engine

  • @Mitutumuch
    @Mitutumuch Рік тому

    If this video wasnt legitimately for me idk who it was for because youve gotta be a whole elliptical to understand this shit.

  • @michaelgilly2423
    @michaelgilly2423 3 роки тому +2

    Boxes are junk made in china brittle wires inside box ...got 2 neither one worked then the tech line said not supposed to have 12volt power at coil..lol even wen cranking 4 volts spark so weak they don't even ask you to test spark at plug!!! How can you have power to plugs if no 12 volt power to coil ????!!! Makes no sense 45 minutes of nonsense answers older 90s boxes better unreliable overrated 280 junk mike flashed trigger signal but no power to coil..they said does not work like that ..lol.ya no shit save your $$$$ you can use a stock 4pin GMC ingnition module msd wires are good proubley why I got a Mallory back in 1988. But Holley owns msd Mallory now ... Edelbrock far better carb for reliability prices of plastic breaks off snaps wife there junk don't buy

    • @kevinyoung9558
      @kevinyoung9558 13 днів тому

      I blew the first one up on my boat and it was my fault because I had dead batteries and had a battery charger on battery on 12 v crank assist and it fryed the box. It was the 6btm. The second one just stopped working but I was careful and did nothing wrong this time. Lasted 5 years. But price went up 400 Canadian since 2019

  • @michaelgilly2423
    @michaelgilly2423 3 роки тому +1

    Bad product

  • @lokeelee4505
    @lokeelee4505 2 роки тому

    So what would i do if i have a 4 cylinder but 8 spark plugs do i still cut out both loops or do i leave them in tact

    • @weskirkland5850
      @weskirkland5850 10 місяців тому

      set it for 4 cylinder. yours had redundant plugs (two) per cylinder. It's still a four cylinder.