Beating Noita in 2 Seconds, explained
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There were many questions after I uploaded the first 2 second speedrun of Noita on this channel. Here is hopefully every answer to your questions.
0:00 - Intro
0:38 - The Run
1:10 - The History
2:33 - The Method
5:09 - The Wand
This video explains the egg meta: • The revolutionary new ...
This video shows the first 2 second run I did: • Beating Noita in 2 Sec...
The long distance travel wand expert guide on Noita wiki: noita.wiki.gg/wiki/Expert_Gui...
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Noita is a magical action roguelite set in a world where every pixel is physically simulated. Fight, explore, melt, burn, freeze and evaporate your way through the procedurally generated world using spells you've created yourself. Explore a variety of environments ranging from coal mines to freezing wastelands while delving deeper in search for unknown mysteries.
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Check the wiki page on long-distance travel (LDT) wands here! And thank you for watching: noita.wiki.gg/wiki/Expert_Guide:_Long_Distance_Travel
There are a couple things I didn't explain 100% during the wand explanation, but this ^ should help. Technical writing is :O
Wow this article is practically unrecognizable from where it was at on the old wiki. Really smart people propelling this so much farther than the old homebringer tech!
I want a magic system built this way intentionally
The fact that a hollow egg is the run speedrun strat is kind of poetic in a way...
I mean, the lore of Noita is about an egg that created the world...
You've gotta wonder if it's even a glitch or not.
Yeah, that's from Finnish mythology. If you're interested in that stuff you can read Kalevala.
The egg carried the world over from a previous run
@@xiutecuhtli15 It fits too perfectly
Your pfp color scheme made me very confused, it's very similar to mine and wondered when the hell I commented...lol
It's more like coding than playing at this point.
they literally made a coding language and let people figure it out
Like in any other game with some big speedrunning history
@@d301cicada no but he has a point, wand tinkering has lots of common things with coding, in fact i would say it's a few spells away from being turing complete (not the turing test done to AIs, that's a different thing)
There's this thing called esoteric programming languages where you code using colors, shapes, sounds, emoticons etc. Noita spells are proud member of that group.
It's playing just at a high level, many examples of it exists in all kinds of games with complexities, u not really wrong tho :l
This game really makes you feel like 18th-century alchemist suffering from mercury poisoning.
This cracks me up more than it should.
best comment i have ever seen about this game just so you know i am stealing this quote
@@stevensmith4813 Truths are not stolen they are discovered.
that's honestly the best description I've heard of this game
I can't wait to see somebody make a wand that allows you to effectivly play doom in noita
The craziest thing is that I wouldn't even be surprised
Doom and Noita are both two-dimensional games...
"your spell is great and all, but can it run doom?"
Technically you can already do this now! They have a mod that adds dooms weapons and health restores. (Ends up being a lot of padding without being able to disable.) Next, they have a first person mod. All controls are still the same so it feels weird, but first person none the less.
@@renstal7638no friend they meant like, somebody making a spell that lets you play doom
I simultaneously understood everything you just said, and nothing you just said. Having played and watched Noita for all of about 2-3 hours total, I didn't understand a lot of the spell names and what they do. However, the run as a whole was explained in such a way that the programmer in me was like "Ohhhh I got it, ok. Makes sense."
Also, people in the comments saying "Noita is basically programming at this point" -- creating spells always has been programming. It's just done visually rather than with language. I wouldn't be surprised if Noita was Turing complete, given you can summon entities (to store data), and trigger on certain conditions.
@@TheKd8lvti kinda wonder if you can make legit covers with note spells
@@TheKd8lvt Noita is like programming, but you can't test things. If you made an error in a program, it won't run or will work incorrectly, but you can fix it. If you made an error in a spell, it can end your run.
@@TheKd8lvt It is Turing complete. Proving that is tedious, but the naive demonstration is that certain combinations of spells and spell modifiers particularly meta slots like Alpha or Omega will simply crash the game; the crashes can be done on demand deterministically with the same sequence of slots; this happens because certain combinations of slots are undecidable or non-computable and do not halt and simply loop asymptotically close to infinitely.
There's some minimum number of slots necessary and certain combinations slots which will allow us to express Turing-complete/many-to-one-reducible expressions setting the game into a deterministic non-halting state or a loop.
Though it is somewhat hard to distinguish these combinations from those which simply spam the computer with an exponentially growing number of entities or events such that the game slows down or freezes in a blink of an eye because the spell expression is intractable rather than non-computable. But the existence of the exponential wands that slow or crash the computer is indicative of Turing-completeness or at least semi-decidability; strictly decidable formal wand languages wouldn't be able to express exponentials, recurrence relations, predict functors, or quantifiers.
We could in theory classify or categorize the subsets of wand slot combinations into propositional vs at least first order predicate wand languages. First order predicate logic equivalent wand languages would be recursively enumerable languages and Turing-complete. The ability to quantify over spells and wands themselves is the key behavior together with some kind of functional completeness of the propositional wand language. There's theoretically some combination of slots which are themselves functionally complete subsets of the wand language and equivalent to the whole of the propositional fragment of the whole Noita wand language (equivalent in some sense to Noita itself).
To explain the "game crashes therefore Turing completeness is demonstrated" involves understanding how strictly finite-state logical or programmatic expressions have upper and lower bounds, and how the operations necessary for Turing completeness involves being able to include the boundaries of arbitrary finite-state-logical or programmatic expressions as expressions in the language; this allows an escape from the finite boundaries and gives us the more general form of the countable boundedness; countable boundedness and locality are the two conditions necessary for Turing completeness.
What this ends up meaning is that whatever the finite-state limitations or bounds are on Noita that normally keep it from just crashing can be escaped by the use of certain wand sequences. The ability to write a "quit the program" sequence in the wands gives us evidence of Turing completeness.
this run is so quick that it doesn't even spoil any of the game aside from sort of what the final boss looks like
Lol ong, a newbie could watch that 2 second clip over and over thousands of times and never guess a single spoiler correctly lol its impressive how confusing this game is while still being fun
I´m wondering what the dev team thinks about these crazy wand builds. Did they know this can happen? Just insane :D
Who do you think published the original video?
I'm wondering the exact same... I'm sure that there have been lots of discoveries by the community that the devs never thought of (world tele, heart mage abuse, perk duping etc) but that just goes to show how deep the sand box goes that they created. As a hobby game developer I'm amazed and shocked by the depth of the game. Hats off to the Nolla Games crew and shoutout from a fellow Finn! :) Also big thanks for you Fury for the on point Noita content
Considering it is a 56 slot wand when the max is 26, no, they did not know this could happen
If it was a 26 slot build then they probably imagined something like that could be made
@@gerickollarena max spell slots is 77.
@@Drankoii Is it?
I never found a wand above 26 capacity and the extra capacity perk can only increase the slots up to 26
So I assume that normal wands have a max of 26
Is the 77 slot wand a special secret wand?
This is one of the things I love about Noita. It can stay simple, or it can get so complex its like you're coding in Scratch.
Conclusion : Fury got so good after 24937 deaths + 2757 wins he can "reverse noita'd" the game in 2 secs.
"Reverse noita'd" is going straight into my vocabualry...
Can you beat Noita in 2 seconds? To answer that, we need to talk about parallel universes...
I got the reference hahahah
is this about mario 64?
@@samuelesanfilippo222 Yep, it's a classic
@@CHubas07 ahhh ok, i felt i heard that one
I've seen that video like 3 times. gold
That use of conditional spells to modify the same spellblock on a different cast is GENIUS! The Noita community continues to astound me to this day
After seeing this I have the legitimate doubt if Noita is Turing complete
"Still with me?" No, I lost you the second the game ended faster than it takes to load the world
I have a question!
Can you repeat the part where you said all about everything?
I love it when me from past/parallel universe casts a spell that accomplishes everything I need to do as soon as I start my existence
Ah Noita professionals.
Their runs are either 2 seconds or 71 hours, there is no middle ground.
The 71 hours run being the bare minimum to be able to start preparing for the 2 seconds run
@@ennou1236actually no bc you physically cant get the wand required legitimately, psure the maximum spell slots on a wand is like 50 unless im thinking of a different game
@@surr3ald3sign apparently, tier 6 wands have a "max" of 61 capacity and tier 10 have a "max" of 77, so it comes down to "luck", you will need to find a 56 or more capacity wand without a pesky always cast holding fewer spells than the maximum the ui can let you interact so you can empty it, I believe the "only" not luck only way to have such wand generated is to either "save scum" tiny infinite nightmare mode hell
Or pray to rngesus
@@surr3ald3sign 67
@@surr3ald3signit's possible to get wands with a capacity that's higher than normal in nightmare mode, although I'm not certain if it's possible to get a 56 slot wand
Really great explanation of the whole thing Fury, I look forward to adding on to this legacy ;)
Hehe, I can't wait ;)
What I'm getting from this is that if I ever decide to play Noita, I'm constantly going to have, at minimum, four wiki pages open at any point in time.
My mind is blown by how simple this wand is yet how much damn brainpower it must have required to put it together. True magicians.
This is amazing. Shows how insanely deep this game is. You can really make anything you set your mind to.
... I'm reminded of the joke in 8-Bit theater, where Sarda makes a spell that forces Black mage to vomit out all your intestines, and after Black mage learns it via Blue Magic, Black mage finds out that it's a spell to make HIM vomit out all his intestines.
With enough time, you can craft a spell to do almost anything.
just today I was creating long distance travel wand and read all the wiki, when I saw that wand I must say, Im in awe, pure dedication to min max it to this extend, mad respect man
Regular Noita players: Okay new run, let's see what we can find.
Advanced Noita players: _casting a 56 slot precision multiple global teleport wand on frame 20_
"Oh, 2 seconds? this should be short" it's 8 minutes and 40 seconds long
Not that I'm complaining
EXPLAINED
lol
:P
It's like the palace invasion in Hunter x Hunter.
A couple minutes of action on-screen, but a full season of episodes to explain everything that happens and why.
It is worth every second of watching.
I think we need the "Watch for Rolling Rocks in 0.5 A Presses" guy to explain this
This is yet another instance of something I don't understand but still find cool.
Cant stop laugh every time the "run", thanks))
The game is actually a sandbox not only at physics, but in inner logic itself. Recent update shows it already with new techniques.
Meanwhile, I'm sitting here as a nearly brand new Noita player staring at the spells like "I don't think I've seen nearly any of those spells before..." 🦊
Really interesting wand and impressive work. There's still however something a (little) bit unsatisfying about the setup run requiring mods, legitimacy-wise. I know wands with that many slots are theoretically possible, but I'd wish to see an actual seed in which the wand can be made. However if even in such a seed spells can't be naturally inserted without mods, then idk. Not to take away the fact that the wand is a huge prowess in its own.
You totally can build it without mods. You just can't carry all the spells at once. The mod just cut down on time, pretty much.
Well, then you'll be pleasantly surprised because:
- A person named pudy made a seed searcher for high capacity wands so it is possible to actually get a wand like that in a real run
- Fury talked about using Spell Lab to insert spells but by modifying your config file you can change the UI size which makes it possible to actually see and edit the whole wand
So theoretically you could make it in a real run :D
@@noby_y If you have to externally modify your game (editing config files) to do it then you can't do it vanilla.
I see, cool to know then. :D
@@Alan-hs1lw I don't consider modifying your default config file as "not vanilla", but you do you
so we are basically programing in noita now
extreme noita wandbuilders are on a whole other level. absolutely wild
This is absolutely insane. I love it.
Man, I just want more footage of that egg spewing wand in the interim title screens. That thing looks hella satisfying to just spray :V
Thanks for sharing this from the short video, makes way more sense here.
I love obscenely convoluted solutions in speed runs, and that wand-wrap is amazing. I hope somebody finds a solution that requires even more to get 0.01 seconds shaved off the time.
I love this game and it's community for stuff like this
Earliest Video Ever Seen, 27 Seconds
Also Great Job With the Channel!
Soon we will start getting wands in eggs that teleport you to parallel worlds so you can pick up the perks from all their holy mountains while doing your taxes.
noby is insane, nice person always helping out on the noita discord
So wait, double checking:
Step 1) Either naturally find a 56 capacity wand and a bunch of end game spells or hack in a wand with all of the spells you need.
Step 2) Build a wand that’s effectively just a long line of code.
Step 3) Refresh the game, then shoot the wand.
Step 4) Start the actual run by grabbing the egg from the previous run out of the air and chucking it at the game.
Step 5) Mash the interact button.
Step 6) Congratulations, you’ve beaten the game.
I just have a couple questions about that:
1) Is hacking in the wand or obtaining it naturally considered part of the run? If not, why not?
2) Can this even be done legitimately? If so, does it require a specific seed, or can it be done on any seed with enough parallel worlds? If it requires a specific seed, do you have the seed and know how long would the setup take?
3) Is this an actual category considering that step one is usually hacking the game? If so, I’m kinda confused how there’s a leaderboard. I thought mods weren’t allowed in speed runs. This seems more like a demonstration or a TAS of possibilities, so why is it competitive?
Thank you so much for your time, and it was a great video, as always.
First, it's *not* competitive. This is purely a showcase of the insane possibilities of this game. This video is meant as a "guide" to show others how to do it, if they are so inclined.
1.) Currently on speedrun.com, we do not have any submissions for "egg meta" runs. We've already voted, though, and if people *are* interested in running with this glitch, then we'd make entirely new categories for them *and* the set-up run would count for a couple of the categories.
2.) It can. The mod is not necessary because it's possible to find wands with this many slots, albeit extremely rare naturally. You'd basically have to use a seed in order to find one naturally *or* you'd need to farm Great Treasure Chests or boss kills (Tiny) in order to get one. Seed: 658572190 has a 50 capacity wand in the final HM. The build I used in this video has already been optimized (it was done before I finished this video, actually) and it only uses 42 slots now, for a faster win :D
We're all waiting on Alias's video on that.
3.) Already answered. It abuses a glitch to carry spells from one run into another, but the mod is not necessary. I only used the mod to cut down on time and show people how to "easily" build the spell loadout. You can just shift+click onto a naturally-found high-slot wand to build it. Ofc, very carefully.
It's not competitive (yet) because we're just doing science, basically. Testing what is possible. No one who is messing around with this really cares about the competitive part of speedrunning.
Anyway, hopefully that answered everything. Have a nice day!
I was mistaken on thinking it was competitive, then. My apologies for that. Personally, I’d love to see a “pre-egg” run, as it would probably help a ton in understanding a bunch of different mechanics about the game, and messing around with different mechanics and builds is probably my favorite part of this game. I also didn’t realize that wands with that much capacity actually exist, so now I know. I can’t wait to see a more optimized build! This game is crazy! I believe that answered everything. You have a great day as well!
No apology necessary!
You could probably interact faster by binding the interact key to scroll wheel if it's possible, then you'd just need to spin your scroll wheel once and get frame perfect inputs
True! Although, somebody has already made a better wand that allows a “much” faster victory. We’ll have to wait for his video, lol
@@FuryForged I'd like to know who and be notified of when/if they post. Thank you.
@@KAClown I'm not at liberty to reveal that yet, but they are a prominent member of the community who posts videos on YT and streams on Twitch.
Listening to Fury describe the wand reminds me of that old fake technical support video where the actors just use fake jargon lol 😊
"So, how did you got that impressive 2 second run?"
"First of all, you need deers"
"..."
Mfs not even witnessing the final boss 100+ hours into the game watching some mf beat it in 2 seconds
Noita is the greatest exactly for this reason. So much potential
2:17 that guy helped me with my wand! Absolutely insane!
Imagine being Kolmi just chillin there, suddenly a deer appears, instantly replaced by a Noita grabbin your salt, and you suddenly die
Noita devs are next level with spells and people like you are wven more next level by deciphering these spells and how they work
I remember I made it all the way to "Temple of the Art" in my first casual run of the game using Teleportitis accidentally teleporting me to the exit of an area like 4 times in a row. Mind-bogglingly low chance of happening, but I can now proudly say that I got a rare achievement in my first run of the game.
Lol. That happened to me on my third or 4th run. Had absolutely no idea how it happened and it took like 20 hours to make it that far again.
Fury: I AM SPEED
2 Fast 2 Fury
Thank you, the explanation on the wand definitely helped a bunch...
Haha! I tried!
does deerswap load chunks or its working being unloaded?
That's some really impressive tech O_o
I'm really curious what other speedrunning categories could be attacked with similar tech?
When the wand build is so good it literally wins the game
Nice eggsploit
I alwaya aprwciate a vid from u dude hope u the best :D
That egg fountain wand makes me laugh.
7:00 as someone who doesn't play noita these are just words in sequence and nothing else
I'm in my fourth year of medicine and i still have to see something more complex than this...
Im 6 months late but i dont think you need mods/config editing to build the wand. If you shift click on a spell in your inventory it goes to the empty space in your active wand. So you can put spells but cant discard them
You are very correct. I didn't mean to imply that using a mod was necessary. I sort-of maybe misspoke in the video. I was trying to mix together a "look at this craziness" type of video with a tutorial and how-to video. I used the mod in order to present the easiest way for people to repeat this for themselves. I wish I would have said that, but it is what it is. i.e. the mod was just to be able to do it quickly and easily for video so that people can maybe also do it quickly and easily.
least complicated noita wand
There's an issue with the quick add spell in spell lab that doesn't increase the spell slots but instead just replaces the spells in that slot. Is there anyway to fix this or have some way to make a larger wand capacity?
If you want to just make your own wand, then you can use cheatGUI. It'll allow you to set exactly how many slots you want, etc.
oh perfect thank you
My brain just melted. I'll carry on suffering as I am. :D
Do a instant win setup run. Build the instant wand and use it. Now that’d be cool
the ending should have been "happy noitailua"
I wonder what’s devs’ reaction to this discovery
This reminded me a 20 seconds Minecraft TAS - very fast, very wtf is going on.
Сделай гайд по заклинания требования. If else - вот по ним. Пожалуйста. Они единственная часть игры, которую я не освоил. И по этому я удивился, когда палочка прокрутилась дважды.с разными заклинариями.
The missile knows where it is
It's here! Huzzah
Maybe the devs should add a scroll bar (or make it go across multiple rows) to wands with this much capacity since it's technically possible to get that many slots due to the very low chanche broken wand capacity that can randomly happen
Every hollow egg is a new game
Insane.
Completely insane.
_"The Gods are very Impressed"_
I Just stop listening at some point, but stayed until the end
How do people come up with this stuff. Also why doesn't the black hole in the pre wrap kill you, but only kill you after wraping?
i assume that you just get teleported before it becomes deadly
It takes me that much to die in a normal basis.
EXPLODING DEER SPEEDRUN
This is why the forces of nature, magic, and technology want to keep the macguffin away from the Noita.
Noita players discovered time travelling eggs, why am I not surprised?
"Hello You Absolute Legends." in one month?
so... its not really viable for a speedrun then since it requires you bringing something from a previous world?
I don't play Noita so this was the most confusing video I watched all day
I feel so fkn stupid not for not undersrading this.. But for trying to understand this.
At somepoint in life u as a being must face the FACT that some people can do stuff u just cant.
Fury, I lov ur vids, and while my best creation was to make a simple machine gun, I still lov these creazy wands u make.
There should be a perk that allows you to turn hollow egg/summon eggs into spells
Eggs to Power.
Got an ad about the Gollum game before the video. Just thought it was funny to adverstize something so bad like that on a video about one of my favorite games, Noita.
I guess I thought this was going to be without any hacks, mods, etc. But you said you had to build a wand with more slots than is possible to make.... So what's the fastest legal run without modding?
Well, this is a run abusing a very interesting mechanic having to do with the game's memory unloading. The mod I used to build the wand was just to cut down on time for the video (and for other people who might want to make the wand as easily as possible.) It's actually not needed at all. I maybe should have mentioned that, but it is what it is. i.e. I uploaded this video not as a speedrun, but as a guide for others, so I showed the mod as a way of saying, "this is how you can easily do this." without caring about anything else.
There is a very rare chance to actually obtain a wand with that many slots. The mod's purpose was only to more-easily build the loadout. Basically, convenience for the viewer.
Be that as it may, none of us in the speedrunning community would want these "egg" runs to actually compete in any other categories.
For any% random seed, the current WR is: 2m23s - and for seeded, it's 15s. Noita is a game that has a lot of interesting speedrunning categories, though, because of insane tech we find like *bringing spells from one run to the next using hollow eggs.*
There is even an official category called "overfed" that ranks players who overeat and die the fastest in the game :)
@@FuryForged thanks for all the extra details. Good to know a lot can get gotten without mods and they were used just showcase what's possible.
One thing that I'm confused about, how did you start the run with a wand That has all those spells? That's not a glitch so is it?
It must be late. I just remembered the entire point was to get the spells into the double egg package. Nevermind.
@@Kaltinril you do a run first, gather everything you need, then you can bring the wand loadout across to an entirely new save using the eggs.
They should add a spell that presses e
ah yes, those spells that i totally knew about its existance xD
holy shit.
Well I was expecting something like this from Finnish game. Witches be witching, and so on.
things like this are some of the few times I consider if video games are a menace to human progress, what could have been achieved if a similar level of commitment and problem solving skills were turned toward the betterment of mankind? (leaves to play video games)
Pretty sure noita people could develop antigravity tech in no time of you convince them they're building wands
Eggs... It is all about eggs! They are the beginning, they are the present, they allow the rules of time and space to be broken like a mud wall...
"If you still have questions please post them in the comments" 🤣
I HAVE SO MANY QUESTIONS!!! LOL
Speedrun where time playing the game doesn't count towards the run... I didn't expect that would be a thing...
2sek next 1sek speedrun
Umm... Is it legal? I mean how can you get rhis wand without mods?
You can, yes. None of the egg runs count for speedrunning (at the moment) anyway. There will likely be new categories added *just* for egg meta runs.
Wands have a very rare chance of spawning with this many slots, but it is based on the seed.
@@FuryForged but what about wand? Is it possible to get the same stats in vanilla noita?
Yes. Very rare, but no mod necessary.
@@FuryForged i thought it is impossible...
@@FuryForged How do you edit when the wand runs off screen? You said you had to start over if you messed up. Is it necessary to do the whole thing in a single edit? Is it just because you are working blind, or are there actual limitations on how you can scroll? i.e. is it possible in vanilla assuming you can keep track, considering the limitations on what you can carry?
Once again, this should be a completely separate speedrun category because it REQUIRES a separate run that happens before it to set it up. The run that happens before it should be considered PART of the "true" run.
It is already a completely separate category. I don't think anyone who runs this game actually would *want* the egg runs to be considered in any of the preexisting categories. I don't even want the sampo chest seeds to count towards the any% leaderboards, but it's too late for that.
@@FuryForged Ah, my bad. I only remember it was still undecided the last time you talked about this. Guess I should have bothered to actually check before saying anything.
@@pbjandahighfive No-no, it's all good! Don't worry about it.