That's awesome.. but also misleading. I guess the video is supposed to be a "nerf ice block" plea, and let's be honest the build is definietely strong. But this ain't a 1v6 if you have 2 guys standing next to him with 100% scholar blood dedicated to keeping him shielded at all times with 3 defensive spells each + Shmack running defensives and i-frames aswell. It's just not a scenario that would ever happen in a real pvp/raid. Fun to watch tho, nice vid :D
It totally can tho - you have the supports hiding behind a window and there you go. More realistically - imagine 3 people with that build and all on warrior
@@RhonenYTwell.. kind of but not really. Bc line of sight behind windows is really shitty and restrictive. Not to mention the attackers can just ignore the guy and put down the golem instead and its basically a free breach because there isn't a single offensive spell between all of the defenders. The other situation is more realistic, but you would still have pros/cons. One one hand you're hella tanky, It will be very difficult to kill a team like that. But on the other hand that team could also have a very hard time killing others as they will be slower than everyone else, they wont have a single area/range attack, no chance at chasing anyone. I just think it's much more OP in a dojo setting, thus blown out of proportion. Still very strong in open world/raid but not as much
@@infernnal676 In that first scenario - you'd only have 4 people with the golem. Regular weapon attacks is more than enough to kill the golem stone before it goes up, I've done it in about 30 seconds with only weapon attacks - realistically it'd take much longer when 4 guys are on you but it's going down. As for "more OP in dojo setting".... I wish you were right but sorry, this is just disgusting in open world too. Thing is, you don't have to dodge. You can chase right after people. You also get movespeed from aegis and weapon damage is the majority of damage anyway - and you just have 1 guy chase the others get on horses to catch up anyway
@@RhonenYT But you're asuming the attackers will put down the golem right next to the window so 1 guy can fight and 3 can ice block/aegis? just don't place the golem right at the entrance D: and in a 4v4 most likely it will come down to skill and not abusing habilities, i.e you can't shield your team-mate forever when you're getting attacked yourself. Plus you could probably get it done much faster with aegis/power surge/storm dash or just mosquito/void from far away As for open world, look, lets agree that ice block is easily the best overal shield/defensive skill. However, its not as OP as ppl say. There are definitely a lot of counters/drawbacks.. you will be slower, no range, hard to chase, long cooldown, pistol Q, wait next to the guy and slasher e, blood dash + crossbow when the guy ice blocks, or simply pop a potion. Its not like it's impossible to play against. Obviously there are certain interactions between spells, especially in team fights, that can make it disgusting.. but can you rly blame a single spell in those scenarios when you actually need 2-3 other guys also running a full build of aegis/blood fountain/schoolar blood etc to support it? Personally I find the "meta" more flexible nowadays, with ppl running all sorts of builds (even if a lot of them include ice block), as opposed to full frost bat/barrier/dash/ult like it was pre gloomrot.. that was proper disgusting, just a CC battle with no room for having fun with other spells. anyway, nice chat, love your videos & hope you keep pumping content
@@infernnal676 The meta is absolutely more flexible now(tho frost was only one of the like 4-5 meta builds) but sorry to say ice block absolutely is just as op as people think it is - and aegis is wayyy more op than most people realize. As for your suggested counters - pistol Q sucks ass, waiting next to only works vs complete morons who don't just cancel the ice block and spear/reaper Q you, blood dash is a legit soft counter but then you have no dash after. You also suggest focusing the scholar blood players but... Imagine this was 3v3 instead of (sorta) 3v6 - you don't need the scholar block, everyone just runs warrior instead. As for low damage - warrior parry buff is effectively permanently procced with this build meaning you do 25% more dmg at all times!
@@lemongrassq That's only a thing vs pve bosses; They scale with the number of nearby players. The only thing that matters for pvp is stats and jewels!(Except for gear score, that stat is irrelevant!)
Yeah we're there buffing him but he's not exactly running away or trying to dodge either - we're definitely not properly participating either tho, just shields
I mean this is fun to watch and all but I don't get the point of the video. What's the title referring to? A bug? An exploit? Balance between offensive and defensive skills? Maybe woulda been clearer without the two lifechanging supports.
Youre not supposed to hit the shields, youre supposed to hit whoever casted it in that situation. Whoever casted the shield has 1 less spell and no benefit on his character.
The thing is ice block heals a LOT and aegis lasts for 4-5.4s depending on if you have %duration jewel and how good the roll is - you can't ignore all that
Sorry about that, I didn't feel that was the point of the video - the other guy buffing didn't even have jewels haha. You can look up good jewels for the spells here: ua-cam.com/video/K7eaPCAbuLU/v-deo.html
That's awesome.. but also misleading. I guess the video is supposed to be a "nerf ice block" plea, and let's be honest the build is definietely strong. But this ain't a 1v6 if you have 2 guys standing next to him with 100% scholar blood dedicated to keeping him shielded at all times with 3 defensive spells each + Shmack running defensives and i-frames aswell. It's just not a scenario that would ever happen in a real pvp/raid. Fun to watch tho, nice vid :D
It totally can tho - you have the supports hiding behind a window and there you go. More realistically - imagine 3 people with that build and all on warrior
@@RhonenYTwell.. kind of but not really. Bc line of sight behind windows is really shitty and restrictive. Not to mention the attackers can just ignore the guy and put down the golem instead and its basically a free breach because there isn't a single offensive spell between all of the defenders.
The other situation is more realistic, but you would still have pros/cons. One one hand you're hella tanky, It will be very difficult to kill a team like that. But on the other hand that team could also have a very hard time killing others as they will be slower than everyone else, they wont have a single area/range attack, no chance at chasing anyone.
I just think it's much more OP in a dojo setting, thus blown out of proportion. Still very strong in open world/raid but not as much
@@infernnal676 In that first scenario - you'd only have 4 people with the golem. Regular weapon attacks is more than enough to kill the golem stone before it goes up, I've done it in about 30 seconds with only weapon attacks - realistically it'd take much longer when 4 guys are on you but it's going down. As for "more OP in dojo setting".... I wish you were right but sorry, this is just disgusting in open world too. Thing is, you don't have to dodge. You can chase right after people. You also get movespeed from aegis and weapon damage is the majority of damage anyway - and you just have 1 guy chase the others get on horses to catch up anyway
@@RhonenYT But you're asuming the attackers will put down the golem right next to the window so 1 guy can fight and 3 can ice block/aegis? just don't place the golem right at the entrance D: and in a 4v4 most likely it will come down to skill and not abusing habilities, i.e you can't shield your team-mate forever when you're getting attacked yourself. Plus you could probably get it done much faster with aegis/power surge/storm dash or just mosquito/void from far away
As for open world, look, lets agree that ice block is easily the best overal shield/defensive skill. However, its not as OP as ppl say. There are definitely a lot of counters/drawbacks.. you will be slower, no range, hard to chase, long cooldown, pistol Q, wait next to the guy and slasher e, blood dash + crossbow when the guy ice blocks, or simply pop a potion. Its not like it's impossible to play against. Obviously there are certain interactions between spells, especially in team fights, that can make it disgusting.. but can you rly blame a single spell in those scenarios when you actually need 2-3 other guys also running a full build of aegis/blood fountain/schoolar blood etc to support it?
Personally I find the "meta" more flexible nowadays, with ppl running all sorts of builds (even if a lot of them include ice block), as opposed to full frost bat/barrier/dash/ult like it was pre gloomrot.. that was proper disgusting, just a CC battle with no room for having fun with other spells.
anyway, nice chat, love your videos & hope you keep pumping content
@@infernnal676 The meta is absolutely more flexible now(tho frost was only one of the like 4-5 meta builds) but sorry to say ice block absolutely is just as op as people think it is - and aegis is wayyy more op than most people realize. As for your suggested counters - pistol Q sucks ass, waiting next to only works vs complete morons who don't just cancel the ice block and spear/reaper Q you, blood dash is a legit soft counter but then you have no dash after. You also suggest focusing the scholar blood players but... Imagine this was 3v3 instead of (sorta) 3v6 - you don't need the scholar block, everyone just runs warrior instead. As for low damage - warrior parry buff is effectively permanently procced with this build meaning you do 25% more dmg at all times!
This is so sad
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are you taking less damage cause of pvping 2+ person solo?
Nope! He's just getting a whole lot of shields from us
@@RhonenYT y i saw but question came to mind cause it works like that on pve
@@lemongrassq That's only a thing vs pve bosses; They scale with the number of nearby players. The only thing that matters for pvp is stats and jewels!(Except for gear score, that stat is irrelevant!)
why do your skills cooldown so fast? i would like a build guide
I have 100% scholar blood and am getting Phantasm stacks from Phantom Aegis - might also have cdr necklace but I believe it was spell power
My voice is soooo annoying lmao. Ye stacking resistance should be changed imo.
sorry, what am i missing? what's going on?
6 people try to kill one person who's getting shields from 2 supports who are otherwise not involved - and he does not die
@@RhonenYT is there like some multiplier on the damage reduction or something? Or just having the 100% on the spells makes him that tanky?
@@Church1x1 Legendary + phys resistance amulet
This is 2v6 but yeah, sucks.
Yeah we're there buffing him but he's not exactly running away or trying to dodge either - we're definitely not properly participating either tho, just shields
I mean this is fun to watch and all but I don't get the point of the video. What's the title referring to? A bug? An exploit? Balance between offensive and defensive skills? Maybe woulda been clearer without the two lifechanging supports.
That was sooo difficult to kill him but very funny 😂
would have been funny to se the 1v6 from Schmacks perspective and see how high the damage numbers go on his screen
but yeah this is dumb as hell
biggest back to back shield negation was 950 damage text :D
Youre not supposed to hit the shields, youre supposed to hit whoever casted it in that situation. Whoever casted the shield has 1 less spell and no benefit on his character.
Imagine a 4 man team. Everyone carriers the same build, sure switch. Then the teammates switch who they shield.
During raid this works though
The thing is ice block heals a LOT and aegis lasts for 4-5.4s depending on if you have %duration jewel and how good the roll is - you can't ignore all that
mate u forget to show us the jewels on ability plz post picture for it
Sorry about that, I didn't feel that was the point of the video - the other guy buffing didn't even have jewels haha. You can look up good jewels for the spells here: ua-cam.com/video/K7eaPCAbuLU/v-deo.html
Don't want to see 50% nerfs. Just want to see 80% of skills to be reworked and also buffed.
lmao
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