Early Draft Season Winners, plus Super Bowl Shanahanigans
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Time Stamps
0:00 Reflecting on the Super Bowl
18:27 Early reshuffling of Draft Boards
25:15 Jackson Powers-Johnson, OL, Oregon
30:52 Ladd McConkey, WR, Georgia
36:09 Quinyon Mitchell, CB, Toledo
40:03 Spencer Rattler (but actually J.J. McCarthy)
49:37 Khristian Boyd, DL, Northern Iowa
53:49 "Rabbit" Taylor-Demerson, DB, Texas Tech
56:40 Mason McCormick, OL, South Dakota State
1:00:18 Mo Kamara, EDGE, Colorado State
1:05:02 Darius Robinson, DL, Mizzou
1:07:25 Laiatu Latu, EDGE, UCLA
1:11:57 Honorable Mentions
1:16:35 Closing thoughts
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@@rileyblack7160ZACH WILSON REDEMPTION ARC HAS HIM BEING 3RD BEST QB OF ALL YIME BEHIND MAHOMES AND BRADY
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Really appreciate you guys adding an on-screen graphic indicating who you're discussing
As an X-Men fan y'all have NO IDEA how much I love EJ referencing Longshot. 🤣🤣
Explain to me who has better luck, Longshot or Domino?
@@andrewmackens That's hilarious. I was waiting for that. Long discussion. I'll buy you a beer about it. 🍻
Will Shields being excited about an O-Line prospect’s growth is good enough for me 😂
I just realized that the Chiefs played football this season, the same way Floyd Mayweather Jr. boxed. Specifically the "Money" era of Floyd.
All about minimizing risk and punishing mistakes. Never overcommitting, or even giving the chance for a knockout.
Which I guess makes Spagnuolo the Philly Shell 😂
Nothing like watching Brett and EJ talking film, prospects, and NFL possibilities, while having some nice white rum with sweet tea... Gentlemen, lets get it!
Thing is, it wasn't that long ago that the Chiefs had that year where they went the whole season without a TD catch by a Wide Receiver and yet for most of the regular season this year, this offense was a lot more frustrating than that one.
Mo Kamara, you ARE… Shaquil Barrett
YES. Thank you, EJ. Plus, whether "take the ball or kick it" is a right or wrong answer doesn't have enough sample size to analyze properly. Only time will give us the data of what actually works best.
Personally, if I'm a coach, I am going to choose based on game scenarios every time. Is the offense struggling right now? Is the defense struggling? Whichever one has the better gameplay going on during that moment is the one I want to be on the field first. Apply pressure with what works, IMO. Predicting what will happen is nearly impossible, and it all comes down to playing to strength.
Defense was gassed. Definitely was a data point in the decision.
Babe wake up, bootleg just dropped
I have the perfect comp⭐ Ladd McConkey = Donald Driver✅
The biggest surprise to me honestly was Quantez Stiggers, I mean the dude kinda just walked onto a CFL team right out of highschool, was a really good player, then shows up here and looked honestly really good.
Just what i needed at work on a friday
After watching Powers-Johnson at Senior Bowl, honestly I have a feeling hes gonna be a guard in the NFL. He looked really good.
I don't really like calling this the "worst Chiefs team of the Mahomes era." It was the lowest scoring offense they've had, certainly but this was far and away the best defense they've had in that time and that was completely integral to their success because their tough playoff opponents were Buffalo, Baltimore, and San Fran, all offensive powerhouses that were winning by hanging huge amounts of points on people. We'll see if they can do that again next year - repeating a truly elite defense back to back like that has historically been very, very rare, especially when you basically totally avoid injury like KC did this year (another piece of luck breaking their way), but who knows!
That defense is so talented and also young, Spags has his tailor built unit. I'd be shocked if they weren't top 5 as a defense next year
Draft season did not start if it truly never ended
Brett, I gotchu. Turn on Michigan film from Illinois 2022, OSU 2022, TCU 2022, MSU 2023, Purdue 2023, and OSU 2023 for the type of "wow" throws that JJ can offer.
i can't get enough of this
You wonder what if KC doesn't snipe Buffalo for McDuffie, because wow did that pick turn into the perfect piece!
Not just for their own sake, but also keeping him away from a conference rival they have to see essentially every postseason.
and then the bills had to take elam who hasn’t even played he’s so bad 😂
I love good pun on satuday morning, thank you.
Love E.J’s shirt.
That one is custom from Homage - they made me that as a one-off as a thank-you for a favor I did them. Pretty cool.
Love that mo is getting love!!!!!!
Really enjoyed our interview with him at Shrine. Awesome dude.
Before *the incident* the largest comeback in Superbowl history was 10pts and mahomes has done that 3 times in 5 years
The incident 😂
The league wasn't actually competitive until 1993 when free agency was created. Prior to that, teams just reserved their best contracts, leading to a LOT of lopsided games.
12:04 the 49ers ALSO could’ve went for two if they got a TD. Problem was they didn’t get it and didn’t go on 4th. It was ggs after that
Are you guys still posting on spotify? I have not seen any draft stuff on there
Should be. Thanks for asking - I'll check it and make sure nothing lapsed (user agreements, etc.)
Thanks EJ! I was also wondering.@@ejsnyder5734
I can see it on Spotify, might just have posted late
At the end of the day they have to play me is a fuckin quote man
The muffed punt will always be singled out for sure as the turning point for sure. To me though, the fact that the 49ers were dominating defensively for the most part until that point in the game and were able to manufacture some good drives offensively and all it took was that punt and the chiefs to score a touchdown to TAKE THE LEAD near the end of the third quarter. If the 49ers offense adapted properly to the chiefs defense, they could have been up two scores by that point and this would not have been as big of a deal. The ability to take advantage of opportunities is what made this chiefs team so hard to beat, because both teams got great chances but only one took advantage.
JPJ is comin to the Lions after a trde up by BHolmes💯
First show I've seen to accurately discuss how the whole OT, "3rd possession" stuff would've gone, and how it should've been discussed! Ball 2nd means you 100% control your fate, win or lose!
People acting like there was a world where the Chiefs would have kicked an extra point and then kicked off AGAIN to San Francisco are out of their minds. I've seen so many people convince themselves that "can you really go for two in that moment, I don't know...." Like what are we talking about, you'd rather kick off, hope to get a stop, get the ball back and then go and try and score again, versus just running one play from the two yard line? I'd rather get two yards once, than get a defensive stop and put a whole other drive together.
love the rob lowe NFL hat
as far as I know the coin flip decision is basically a 50 50 as long as the second team goes for 2 which means that the NFL finally got it right.
24:59 Yeah, I think positional value is important to our front office. That probably means the JPJs and Sweats of the world will go higher than our front office probably values those positions. 😢
Leo Chenal was also amazing.
Damn y’all did Rattler so dirty lol
Can’t wait for Caleb in NY
Ladies and gentlemen SEC copyright season has finally arrived!!
Lmaoo wild title 🤣
I personally think that the new overtime should force teams to go for 2 after a TD so that the first team can preempt a "win or lose" 2 pt conversion without risking the second team winning with a PAT if the first fails.
I have not seen many flowers given to harrison butker, but he was the mvp of the team this season. There were many games where he scored most of the chiefs points. In the superbowl, he again contributed more points than the offense did and his sb record breaking field goal was the first spark that eventually turned the game on its head. It may not be very long before he throws his hat in the GOAT kicker debate.
Ballard needs to make it up to Khristian Boyd by bringing him to Indy for the next 5-10 years.
i cant even imagine if miami drafts JPJ then somehow retains conor williams and sets him back to guard which is his normal position. would pretty much fix their OL woes of the last 5-10 years.
What's the OLB prospects look like?
Ok, just to be very precise. According to the rules, there is no way how you can can be sure to control your faith in OT since the other team can make an onside kick.
But besides the onside kick, the only way how you can be sure you'll have a chance to close out the game with the ball in your hands is to get the ball first, and make 8 points.
Of course kicking a FG isn't fit into this plan, but that was the only way (of course, besides OK)
I could write a dissertation on football philosophy and the Shanahan overtime decision but I'll do my best to keep it brief -- Kyle was put into an impossible decision and he chose the path that most closely aligned with the beliefs that got his team to the Superbowl. His team operates a VERY conservative form of football: control the ball, don't take risks, wait for your opponent to make mistakes and you just keep marching. Especially when your team is more talented than the opponent, this is an extremely sound philosophy. Basically they're just trying to play good enough and the margin only widens when your opponent beats themselves when trying to do too much (the Lions game, for instance). The 2-point conversation is reserved ONLY for game-tying situations, either to tie the game outright or make the field goal math prettier. I can't recall a single situation this season where they went for 2 or a fourth down in an aggressive fashion. He saw Detroit fail and probably felt even more validated. He did not even consider KC might go for two in OT because it's so at odds with his philosophy. His defense just got walked over to end regulation and he doesn't want to send them out there in OT while gassed and surely give up a touchdown, at which point they need a touchdown to tie and oh great now KC has the ball last in the third possession... With that logic, they ***had*** to take the ball first. It'll be interesting to see if the scheme is adjusted next season based on this wake-up call or if he's just gonna rinse and repeat like it's the sixties.
If he couldn't foresee the possibility of the chiefs going for 2, just because he wouldn't do it, then he probably shouldn't be a head coach lol...makes it seem like he's living off his last name. Lions gifted them the super bowl appearance, and the guy didn't learn what he was supposed to learn. It's not as deep as you're trying to make it.
Spags first came to my attention as the head coach of the Rams. It is so freakin' weird to hear people talk about him like he's a genius.
Defensively he still has a fastball. He’s not necessarily a Fangio, Flores or 2017 Zimmer but he’s pretty good scheme wise
The dumbest thing of draft season is a wr going in the first round because of a fast 40. Guy can’t catch or run a route couldn’t get open in college but man he’s fast.
Rams should draft Rattler, is this a dumb take or not?
1:18:40 makes me sad as a Seahawks fan. We really need to get a good young ILB on the roster.
I see Mo Kamara as a Raven through and through.
I know the eagles have cam but here me we get Jackson powers pair him with Tyler stein and we paving the road
How do we feel about Jamari Thrash?
I'm sorry, but I will absolutely take the receiver argument for JJ vs Jayden. We're talking about Nabers as a potential top 5 overall pick and Brian Thomas Jr. as another first round receiver, potentially top 20. I would be surprised if Roman Wilson goes in the first, and I would be really surprised if Cornelius Johnson goes in the second. I think to say that there isn't much of a difference between Nabers + Thomas and Wilson + Johnson is ludicrous to me
Come on Colts small step back and take Cooper Dejean (CB or SAF it's a big need and he is a star) and move from 2nd into 20ish and take either on of the remaining receivers or JPJ Ryan is almost done and AR needs a stable partner there.
41:46 no offense but JJ is better then you guys think. I am biased as a Michigan fan but he will prove a lot of people wrong “in my opinion”.
I'll be curious to see what Brett's take is on McCarthy once he does see all of his film. I'd love to see an honest take of the sum total of that film vs, say, Drake Maye's film against Minnesota and Clemson.
He’s a lot better of a QB than people give him credit for.
Or not
Curious ab ur thoughts, I rly think Chicago trading #9 to KC for Creed Humphrey straight up makes a lot of sense. I think a bonafide young stud center is more than worth #9 straight up, n w the Chiefs teams needs rn, Rome Odunze is j more valuable to them than any C could be
Come on, guys! Luck is a byproduct of skill!
Where could I see a list of highest net win probability added by superbowl run?
Mahomes as Longshot, lmfao. It's true though.
Isn't the Chiefs luckiest run also against the statistically hardest playoff gauntlet ever (by DVOA)?
chiefs play death by a thousand cuts then pull out a buzz saw when you stop paying attention
2:57 not as good as “Michigan’s is a hungry boa constrictor”.
what if the eagles get JPJ?
I think the 49ers could’ve won in overtime but they weren’t prepared.
The biggest advantage to getting the ball second is if the other team scored on the first possession, there’s no decision for going for it on a fourth downs.
Agreed, its just one objective
I’m not a chiefs fans. I’m a mahomes fan I thought he the best of his draft class and I’m glad it’s paying off. Watching mahomes is kind of like watching tennis’s big three because no matter how the game is going he’s going to flip a switch.
Where my quinyon mitchell stans at
Been right here all along.
@@ejsnyder5734 watched him at Toledo for the last two years and can honestly say he is as good as advertised. Probably my favorite player to go see play.
1) EJ is my sons name
2) do you play Contest of Champions?
C’mon Bears trade this #1 for the kings ransom take a tackle or wr and give fields a full year with the new stuff
I know it's not the sexy answer, but play-calling is the #1 reason the Chiefs kept winning. Those mistakes they capitalized on include bad play-calling by everyone else.
Wilks' play-calling was hardly _all_ bad. But he seems to predetermine what plays in what order he's gonna call & sticks to those regardless of situation, yet also still seems to call worse plays in the clutch. Just look at how much open space was in front of Mahomes how often on the last two drives.
McDermott's unmentionables shrink & travel up to his throat & when he's stressed he takes over the play-calling & it goes to hell. This is WHY Allen is forced to play hero-ball regardless of OC. The Ravens... I'm not sure *what* they were thinking other than "good long-passing QB gets the same % of completions regardless of the strength of the opposing D?
I don't even _like_ Andy Reid & he doesn't choose plays based on what wins. He hates & avoids the short passing & rushing game making his offenses stall & be monotonous. If it weren't for Mahomes he'd never have won anything. _But_ he keeps his mind on the long-term goal & doesn't lose it in the clutch.
So the Eagles are drafting Rattler in round 2 aren’t they
The grade isn’t changing thing doesnt make any sense if no team is changing their grades how would guys jump up and down……
Man hearing Travis Fredrick’s name pains me to this day
Mason McCormick to Seattle please.
Praying for the Packers to take JPJ
steelers bouta get their second JPJ
And hopefully a late round RB to replace Najees contract and team up with JW
And a starting caliber off ball LB...
Also a punter 😅
Ok we got a few holes...
@@CaptCKernel and an rt and a cb and a dt for when cam hangs em up.. uh oh
@@tannerserrano6723 idk I like Moore's development enough to not go tackle with a top 100 pick. Ideally it would be Center/Corner/MLB on my eyes...tbf I like Spencer Anderson a lot as well so I feel like he is going to be the backup swing tackle next year
The only hope for anyone else to win a SB is Mahomes getting injured
(Bills fan)
I got me some honey jack and some orange cream moonshine I’m ready for this
Zach frazier will be the best center in this draft
Shhhh! He has to fall to the Bears.
@@ejsnyder5734 haha my bad
What did I win I'm confused
I want jackson powers johnson to go to the bears but that ain’t gonna happen
If Odunze and Nabers are both gone by 9, I could see them trading back for JPJ or a wide receiver.
@@jamesmontijo4983 True. By that time they probably already got an edge in free agency
Join the choir. My other podcast partner Jeff Berckes (from @BearsOverBeers) is already pre-mourning the fact that JPJ is unlikely to wear navy & orange.
@@ejsnyder5734 only hope is if they somehow get a late first for Justin Fields but I refuse to believe that’s gonna happen
Brett, in your opening dialogue about KC you mention that teams need to play clean against them to win, our little group chat said this all the way through the playoffs. There's an 'inevitability' about them and Mahomes. You know the opponents will do something wrong and they'll punish them. I even predicted the muffed punt and momentum swing in the Superbowl 2 minutes before it happened. So reminiscent of the Pats with Brady and Belickick. They are INEVITABLE.
Edit: I paused the video to write this comment, about 10 seconds after pressing play again EJ calls Mahomes inevitable. Great minds.
hi im brett i like to drink alcohol am i right guys
The Chiefs were lucky?! Again?!? Say it ain't so.
talking about the zay flowers fumble but not the mecole hardman fumble is confirmation bias
No it proves their point. The chiefs capitalize on the mistakes that their opponents make and other teams don’t.
@@mandomerlie1997 but calling them lucky because zay fumbled and not acknowledging the bills getting lucky with the mecole fumble is confirmation bias. the chiefs were not a more lucky team
@@chairmanevan1865could it be because the chiefs still won that game? The Flowers fumble ultimately cost the Ravens more than the Hardman fumble cost the Chiefs, because the Chiefs still wont
@@CaptCKernel okay? its still not luck
@chairmanevan1865 It is and it isn't.
We can recognize that winning big games regularly, and even a single Super Bowl, teams have to have some amount of luck....every team that's ever won one was "lucky" to some degree. We really need to stop treating "yeah, there was some luck involved" like we're saying "they didn't deserve to win".
KC deserved to win. They also had some degree of luck. Both are true at the same time.
The Flowers fumble is probably just a bad example, because that was 100% a great play by Sneed and a forced error.
The nasty streak or the NFL continues, games in January and February swung or significantly altered by bad officiating:
2017: AFC Championship Game, scoop and score erroneously negated in the 4th quarter
2018: NFC Championship Game: DPI no call
2019: Super Bowl, probably 10-12 missed calls or wrong calls, mostly in the 4th quarter
2020: Divisional Round, missed personal foul leads to touchback; very soft holding call helps to ice the NFC Championship Game
2021: Super Bowl, missed facemask call leads to TD, DPI in the endzone not called, very soft holding calls in the final 2 minutes on go-ahead drive
2022: AFC Championship Game, terrible officiating all throughout the game, tons of illegal formations by both teams, holding no calls and the infamous "do over " 3rd down, much of the same in the Super Bowl and of course once again a very soft holding call in the final two minutes
2023: Controversial no call keeps Rams out of FG range, DPI no call in the Chiefs' endzone in the AFC Championship Game and probably 15-20 no calls in favour of the Chiefs o-line in the Super Bowl.
Hope the league fixes this going forward, not optimistic though.
Cry. Calls consistently go both ways
@@spencer8860 Not all calls are of equal importance and it doesn't always balance out, especially not in the postseason. You think the Saints consider the lucky break they got against the Titans early this season as a sufficient "compensation" for getting shafted in the 2018 season?
Calling out poor, missed, or less-than-ideal calls in those games, while failing to call out all the player-driven moments in those same games that made them close enough to be altered by a bad call or that would have removed the opportunity for the bad or missed call entirely, is cherry-picking.
Every one of those games had player-driven mistakes, failures of execution, and so forth that had equal or (usually) much greater impact than anything an official did or didn't do. Saying that officiating swung those games, but those other moments didn't, is a bad-faith argument.
Holding in particular is low-hanging but also very low value fruit. Every team in every game ever has benefitted from uncalled holds. Every. Single. One.
And that's completely setting aside whether every "uncalled hold" actually IS an uncalled hold.....VERY few NFL fans even know what a rip move is, much less know how holding rules treat those rip moves.
Would it be nice if we lived in a world where officiating was always perfect and it never had an impact on the game? Of course it would.
But we've never lived in that world, we're never going to, and it shouldn't escape notice that "the worst era of officiating ever" just happens to coincide with the rise of social media and every fan having instant access to a thundering, confirmational echo chamber.
People really need to learn how to advocate for better officiating without also claiming every single result they don't like is poisoned.
@@ryanevans371 Player driven moments are supposed to be a part of the game, failure by the officials to properly enforce the rules is not. Much of your comment deals with things I never said, there's not really a point in arguing about those. The simple reality is that the league has a problem and you should be able to admit that.
@monophthalmos9633 Of course we can admit it. Officiating is not perfect....calls get missed, and fans (with varying levels of expertise and understanding) get upset about it and post about it on the internet.
We can do that without comprehensively listing all the games that were supposedly poisoned.
And while being honest about how bad it REALLY is right now in comparison to how it's always been, and the impact of echo chambers on that perception.
Unless you meant the "nasty streak" you mentioned extends decades further back than you listed.
We should be able to admit that officiating has always been a problem, and that unless we have some evidence-based data that tells us it's that much worse (not a feeling, not a vague eye test, not a social media consensus, not a talking head's opinion), it's probably not actually that much more severe.
And we can do it without hyperbole...."15-20 no calls on the Chiefs offensive line" doesn't match the tape. At all.
Not to mention that calling out just the one team's uncalled holds in that game does raise some questions of bias. As does the "very soft holding call" in SB57 when the other camera angles showed a good 18 inches of tugged jersey.
There's a lot of echo there, and what sounds like a lot of perception drawn from "broadcast analysis".
I'm not crazy, I promise... The NFL should drop "K" and "P" as specific positions filled by people who really aren't otherwise really football players. If you want to kick, you can - but you better have someone on your team that can do it well. Every player then would become a true "football" player, they would have to practice kicking and become skilled at it on top of their other duties.
Why? Whats the difference between a punter and a 4th string safety who's sole job is to punt
Pretty much the only situation where your position having a name matters is for franchise tags and end of year honours. And teams aren't tagging their special teams.
If the NFL has set aside a dedicated spot on a limited roster to a player then chances are there's a reason they want that player to be good at that one thing. And calling it something else isn't going to stop the teams from finding a guy who is good at that one thing.