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What If Iris Told Phoenix The Truth
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- Опубліковано 4 лип 2024
- Spoilers for the Phoenix Wright Trilogy and Investigations 1
This is a pretty straightforward what if, I was always curious about what would have happened if Iris had warned Phoenix about Dahlia and thus prevent the events of Turnabout Memories from taking place.
I was surprised to see that no one tried to do an objection.lol about this, so I figured I should try doing so myself, enjoy the video.
Character Codes:
Schaden Freude [CoC] : HVRVEK (Made by Cardiovore)
If you haven't played Ace Attorney : Contempt of Court then I implore you to play it, It's a phenomenal fangame.
Dahlia Hawthorne [FB] : VMTZWG (Posted by TheWinmega)
Phoenix Wright [Young] : WCPTXK
Sister Bikini is provided by Objection.lol
Iris Hawthorne [Filegardened] : CPCHCM (Posted by TheWinmega)
Morgan Fey : FBQICS (Made by MF5K and xzvile)
Marvin Grossberg : UHSKNV
Mia Fey : HWUQKG (Made by MMWAB)
Tyrell Badd : CRHLCM (Made by Volfram)
Tyrell Badd [Young] : FCBETG
Byrne Faraday : TCUGNE (Made by mushinpen)
Valerie Hawthorne : LPECBZ (Made by Vanilladam)
Miles Edgeworth [Young] [Witness] : UMCADX (Made by ДедКармович)
Miles Edgeworth [Young] [FB] : YURYSC
Special shoutout to @debastiansebeste , @razorratproductions3499 , @nickolasobjectionlolstuff2837 , and @VolcanonX .
You guys are awesome, thanks for inspiring me to make this.
4000 views and 250 likes in under 10 days?!
You guys are insane, I genuinely have no clue what to say.
I'm pleased that the video did so well, my expectations for how it would have performed were nothing like the final result.
You blew my expectations out of the stratosphere and I honestly have no idea how to thank you.
No prob, you were an inspiration for the one I made
@@MannysBattleground Inspiration?
This is still my first video, I'm surprised that this was enough to inspire another creator.
Make more
I am here for all the pro-Feenris content.
Also, nice touch with the Prosecutor Lobby, i.e. flipped Defense Lobby image. I love it.
@@keepthebeat929 Feenris for the WIN, I'm always happy to encounter more Feenris enjoyers.
I remembered flipping the Defense Lobby last second, I nearly forgot about that.
Me??? An inspiration???
I know I inspired others but the fact that such a big project was partially inspired by me is... y'know, really cool??
I only skimmed through the vid, but I'll definitely check out the whole thing once I'm done with this Q&A I've been working on, lol.
The Feenris in me is probably going to ADORE this though lmao.
@@razorratproductions3499 Your videos are always a fun watch, and I can't say that this project would have been the same if I hadn't enjoyed your work as much as I do.
And trust me I'm a MASSIVE Feenris supporter, part of why I made this was simply out of love for the pairing, quite frankly I'd be really happy if this made a Feenris fan's day.
@@eyadamr1566This Feenris fan will hopefully determine that then! :D
@@razorratproductions3499feenris goobers rise up we want iris back
Been starved for Feenris content and you cooked up a delicious banquet for all.
Character development for Bryne and Valerie is very much appreciated as they have plenty of room to be utilized in stories like these and more.
Thoroughly enjoyed it as a Feenris shipper and as an overall AA fan
@@violetsangel1181 In that case dig in, there's more than enough for all Feenris fans.
I always enjoy when Ace Attorney fleshes out its victims, Valerie and Byrne being two of the strongest examples of that, so I figured that I should give them more love.
Feenris but epic and touching.
Like 90s action film.
Too bad we didn't get to see Edgeworth's talk with Nick though...
Who wouldn't love some touching Feenris.
As for the chat with Edgeworth, I was thinking about making a video that shows how the trial would take place, but I can't do that because:
1- There are no sprites of Defense Gunner and I doubt anyone would make those (not to mention lack of sprites for potential evidence and the like).
2- I'm just not capable of writing a trial segment, it's not exactly within my capabilities to write it.
OH MY GOD this is amazing, I actually wished THIS actually happened in Trials and Tribulations. Hope you do more Objection LOL videos!!
It would have meant that Phoenix and Iris would be together (I'll be extremely pleased if that ever happens), unfortunately they couldn't do that because it would contradict the first two games.
The non-canon story that no one asked for but that everyone needed.
For your first video, it turned out sensational.
I hope to continue seeing more of this in the future. :)
I need to see Phoenix and Iris watching Steel Samurai with Maya and Pearl.
I'm happy that you enjoyed the video, I actually really liked Maya's Nightmare and Dahlia goes to Tres Bien, your videos are very fun to watch.
Niiice
I want to see Pearl happy that Phoenix is with someone from the Fey clan, even if it isn't Maya.
Ok this is by far my favourite Ace attorney video so far in 2024
I'm flattered that you think so highly of my video, thank you.
@@eyadamr1566 your welcome
It's so nice to see a alternative reality in which Phoenix doesn't remain maidenless. In all honesty after everything that happened here I wouldn't be surprised if Phoenix and Iris got married by Ace Attorney 2-3 and have at least 1 child together by Apollo Justice Ace Attorney (aside from Trucy).
@@HectorCotto97 My man Phoenix deserves good things, such a shame that him and Iris are denied from that happiness in canon.
I can absolutely believe that Phoenix and Iris would get married at some point (I personally think that if it wasn't for the unfortunate circumstances that they met under, Iris would have absolutely become his wife), and the thought of them having their own kid and even raising Trucy together is just really sweet.
Wow. This was honestly very impressive. And you say this was your first project? This is very impressive for a first timer. You clearly know what you're doing. Can't wait to see where you go in the future as a new ObjectionLOLTuber. Also, noticed you gave a shoutout to VolcanonX. Did his AU have a partial role in the inspiration for this? Because honestly I could see this working as a potential alternate prologue to his series.
I honestly didn't expect to make something this massive in scale as my first project, but I'm incredibly pleased that people actually enjoyed it.
Well outside of Phoenix knowing about Terry Fawles and Doug Swallow being alive I'd say everything else lines up pretty nicely with that AU.
I will love a sequel to this. This can become a series where you go through the games. (You can just show what changed and funny moments.) In each case
@@Bowen05 Well, the thing is that when I think about how Phoenix's Trilogy would be like, I can't help but think of VolcanonX's AU.
If I tried my hand at making a sequel to this that would showcase the rest of the cases after this, it would end up being similar to that AU because I think it does a great job with that premise.
@@eyadamr1566 I'll go check that one out, can you give me a link to it please.
@@Bowen05 youtube.com/@volcanonx?si=xmnEDhGoYh27JNBO
Here's the link to their channel, you'll find the AU pretty easily.
Oh my god, my jaw dropped from watching this masterpiece.
Also, that Richard Gunner reference caught me off guard ngl.
10/10. Instant sub.
Thanks for watching, It brings me immense joy that you consider my video a masterpiece.
Gunner is very frickin cool and I think he's the perfect candidate to defend a monster like Dahlia in court.
@@eyadamr1566 He's the only defense I could think of that would deal with Dahlia's case. Instant sub from me too.
Damn those Byrne Faraday sprites are blurry lmao.
Love this video- its literally what ive been wanting since I played T&T years ago. Its so sad that Iris was a one and done character. This sequence of events makes a lot more sense to me.
@@sharkattack153 Unfortunately, those are the only sprites of him that exist out there, if only someone would upscale them.
Nevertheless the sprites are still really cool and I love the animation work on them.
Iris is a character that honestly doesn't get the appreciation she deserves, most people tend to call her either a plot device or a complete doormat to her sister.
Obviously I disagree with both of those takes and I wanted to give some time in the spotlight to her (God knows the one case she was in didn't give her that much screentime), I'm glad that I did her character Justice (pun totally intended).
@@eyadamr1566 Absolutely- Iris barely gets any appreciation. I think its for the reasons you mentioned, but also because of the ace attorney shipping community. They love shipping phoenix with every other character under the sun, and when so when capcom gives them a canonical love interest they hard reject it.
That being said, I think she does play into Dahlia's hands a bit too much. Though I think that's mostly a result of trials and tribulations being the third game in the series. Had Iris acted like you written her- (more realistically in my opinion) ace attorney 1 would have been full of plot holes. (Namely where did Iris go? Etc.) So I think they did they best with what they had, given that the original ace attorney was never planned to have sequels.
Thanks so much for making this video man! It was a great watch. Hope you continue making these.
@@sharkattack153 Iris and Phoenix getting back together (eventually anyway) would be really satisfying from a narrative standpoint, but I absolutely understand why Capcom would never do that (they wouldn't want to upset other shippers), I'm fine with people not shipping Feenris and I'm not going to attack someone because of their opinions (unless they start going after other ships that is).
The whole "Iris banishing herself to Hazakura Temple" mainly exists as an excuse for why she wasn't in the first two games (obviously they never intended to give Phoenix a love interest), so much pain could have been avoided if Iris had told him the truth (whether before or after Doug was killed) but they couldn't because........you know.
I'm happy that the video delivered, Thanks for watching.
I honestly didn't expect to see myself mentioned here, but i'm
glad I managed to inspire you in some way.
I watched the video, great story and great possibly "if this happened" scenario!
Indeed, your AU is really cool and I love the idea of Iris investigating alongside Phoenix as well as being his Co-counsel, I also liked how Iris lets out her inner Dahlia when the lives of those she cares about are threatened, cool stuff all around.
I'm happy that you liked my video, thanks.
This was well done. Congratulations. I especially love the after credits scenes, just like the actual game.
54:29 This had me choked up. Too cute!
@@Edgeyboy I saw an opportunity to do epilogues for the characters like the games do, and I figured why the heck not?
It wouldn't be Feenris if it didn't make your teeth rot.
I'll definitely check this out when I have the time, very interesting concept you've got here!
I'm always very flattered and surprised when I hear that I've inspired somebody. I never think of myself as being that noteworthy, lol.
@@nickolasobjectionlolstuff2837 I'm pleased to hear that my video has peaked your interest.
And yeah your content is more than noteworthy, What once was and Iris finding out about Dahlia attempting to kill Phoenix helped me a lot in writing this, essentially this video wouldn't be here if it wasn't for your great content.
@@eyadamr1566 Thanks for the kind words, and I wish you good luck in any future projects you might tackle! I'll definitely leave another comment once I've watched the video.
I'm so happy this got recommended to me, just pure cinema
@@amara-chloesapostle13thoft59 Thanks for watching, glad you enjoyed it.
Would you consider this ABSOLUTE CINEMA?
@@eyadamr1566 pure ABSOLUTE CINEMA
Really enjoyed this! Now I’d love a sequel that focuses on Phoenix’s story from the start of the first game, but with Iris supporting him. Could they have saved Mia from Redd White? And how would the Robert Hammond murder trial go? Would Maya ever get involved?
@@ImaginatorJoren There are thousands of ways to interpret how the events of the story would unfold with this change, an example of that being VolcanonX AU, it's really good I highly recommend it.
That being said the differences that would happen from there and the possibilities for the AU are frankly countless and purely based on one's own perspective, feel free to imagine how things would go from there.
I honestly can't imagine big events like Mia's death being changed all that much, for one thing the ending didn't exactly show Iris necessarily wanting to join Mia's Law Office. However let's assume that hypothetically she did join Mia and Phoenix at some point, how would Iris being there save Mia? Phoenix was out of the office and if Iris was with him, Mia would die anyway and if Iris was with Mia then she would probably have died along with Mia (although it's not 100% guaranteed, depending on the circumstances Mia and Iris could probably tag team White into submission).
@@HectorCotto97 I wouldn’t expect Iris to become a lawyer I was thinking just hanging around the office when she wants to spend time with Phoenix. Maybe much to Mia’s annoyance!
I wonder if this matches up nicely with debastian's "the life and crimes of dahlia hawthorne" vid
It wouldn't completely match with it since Iris ends up telling Phoenix before Dahlia runs out of patience and Doug Swallow never gets killed, but as for everything before that as well as the prison visit I'd say it would match.
@@eyadamr1566 ik that the vid takes place in an alternative universe, i was wondering if the extra details matched up nicely with that vid or smthn
@@dylanzlol7293 For the most part yes.
This is really impressive, I can only imagine how long this must have taken to come out
@@AeriaVelocity2 It definitely took a long amount of time, but I think it was worth it in the end.
@@eyadamr1566I can definitely see that, good job :D
So forking satisfying. Thank you for your months of work and for sharing this beautiful creation!
@@BrendaCastro42 Your welcome, I'm pleased by the fact that you liked it.
@@eyadamr1566 LOVE!
Well done. Glad to see another Feenris fan!
Feenris is awesome, more people should appreciate this ship (don't worry, I'm not trying to force anyone to like or dislike any ship, I'm merely saying how I feel about this particular ship).
I still can't stop thinking of Dahlia. But now I have a person who really cares about me!
Things aside, it's a nice video. This one should be preserved
Thanks for watching, I'm glad you liked my video.
@@eyadamr1566 you know what? You can join my Iris appreciation server in ds if you want. Just send me your user id, I'll send you a friend request
Jesus Christ, Is it weird that even if it was in passing, that R.G. was more terrifying than Dahlia to me?
(This was so good!)
RG?
Went with initals just in case someone hasn't seen Turnabout Jackpot@@BrendaCastro42
Damm thats some good ass quality
@@jacobtdp5427 Thanks, I'm glad that you liked it.
Bruh this video is spectacular, keep it up dude!
@@ahmedalsadi1627 Thank you, Nice to see that you liked it.
@@eyadamr1566 yw man :)
Y’know, spirit channeling being inadmissible in court following the DL-6 incident sounds like an interesting headcanon. Of course, that begs the question: how would Phoenix fare in his trials without Mia dashing in last minute to help?
@@Mannyindahouse Well the thing is, there's nothing wrong with Spirit Channelling itself, more just relying on testimony through it.
And since Mia doesn't really ever testify (not even in Turnabout Sisters), she can continue helping Phoenix in trials no problem.
this is peak fiction
@@oakleynova Thanks for watching.
idk if this was intentional or not, but I loved the subtle reference to Debastian’s video on Fawles’ First Trial, the one with Raymond Shields. This video was really well done, especially for a first video.
Debastian's video was the one that inspired me to make Byrne the prosecutor of the fake kidnapped, you have him to thank for this being the case.
Great to hear that you liked it.
You mean “Eddie Fender.”
This has alraedy been said before, but this is a really well made What-If and feels on par with the likes of Debastian Sebeste and Razor Rat, you have now become one of my favorite objection lolers just with this video!
it's a very realistic scenario, you added good tension and drama, I loved all the characters interaction and I enjoy you pulling characters from all over the franchise and having them interact with each other, like Badd and Valerie added more flavor to the video! but definite Phoenix/Iris/Dahlia interactions are the best part about this, it feels like watching canon material.
and yes I am a hopeless half Phoenix/Iris shipper (and half Phoenix/Maya shipper, can't make my mind, both ships are so good lmao), so always nice seeing some good Phoenix/Iris material, glad they get a happy ending here unlike the canon!
@@nouration9685 Thanks, Taking on a project like this as my first time writing fanfiction was rather daunting, but I'm happy with how it came together in the end.
One of my favourite aspects of Ace Attorney in general is how you can have so many different characters tied to the same plotline all for different reasons, I wanted to expand on what Trials and Tribulations established and give more retroactive importance to Byrne Faraday as I think he had a ton of potential.
Interactions between Phoenix, Iris and Dahlia were definitely the most fun to write, seeing Dahlia dumbfounded by their actions will never seize to entertain me.
You're not the only one, I'm also a Feenris shipper myself (they deserve their happy ending damn it), I'm glad that the video delivered on that front.
This makes me wonder how would be Phoenix's attorney story with Iris on his side. It would be cool ngl
@@ElRafauricio For that, you watch VolcanonX AU.
@@eyadamr1566 Oh great. Good video btw, you went all in with this proposal and turned out to be awesome
Man! This was brilliant, you can really feel all the time and effort you put into this! Amazing work my dude, you should feel so proud :)
Also Feenris for the win! We need more content with those two!
@@dogbowl7285 The time and effort that I've put here thankfully paid off.
It's great to see more and more Feenris fans enjoying this video (and I consider this Feenris fan being a Courage fan as well to be the cherry on top).
this is really good for your first one, good job man
Thank you, I'm glad that you liked it.
Wow, this video is very well made. I'm astonished. And with a character from a different game added as a cherry on top is awesome. You just earned yourself another Subscriber.
You do have potential indeed, and this video being your first ever is proof of that.
Plus, looks like I found another Feenris supporter.
@@vercettinguyen9063 I appreciate the kind words, I'm happy that the video impressed you.
You can definitely count me as part of the Feenris Battalion (we must stay strong).
@@eyadamr1566 Hope to see the future videos and projects you will make.
Guess you and I are the same side in the shipping war then.
Hey i love the contempt of court character in the beginning
Yeah, I used Schaden Freude simply because I liked his sprites.
@@eyadamr1566 he’s really funny especially his faces
Peak vid, you did a great job!
Thank you, I'm glad that you enjoyed it.
fire vid ngl, keep up the great work
@@ifluka Thanks, I appreciate it.
Bro cooked. This what if was so good! Enjoyed it from the start to the end. I Look forward to your other works as a new sub!
@@sth2459 I'm happy that you liked it, thanks.
52:12 Holy shit it's Richard Gunner, the best character. Cue the Castlevania music.
@@DARS_04 The one and only, BABY.
I was waiting for someone to catch that reference, I adore Gunner's character and I figured that the only Defense Attorney who would defend a complete scum like Dahlia would have to be just as much of a scum as her.
Besides, the idea of a corrupt Edgeworth going up against a corrupt Defense Attorney is just really fascinating to me.
Is "Mr. Gunner" a reference to the case Turnabout Jackpot?
@@PersonWhoExists50306 He very much is.
Gunner was such a fun character that I just had to reference him somehow, it's not hard to believe that he would be active around this time anyway.
Besides the grammar mistakes... Yeah not bad.
@@asra-5180 Would you mind pinpointing them out, I'd like to keep track of all mistakes in order to not repeat them again.
FHIS IS ID FIRST PROJECT ???????? ITS SO GOOD WHAT
Feenris......feenris save me......save me feenris
@@Nyabot-mh2zi I honestly didn't expect it would be received this astronomically well, but it brings me immense joy either way.
You can never really go wrong with Feenris (They deserve each other so much).
Minor spelling mistakes, but all around impressed.
Care to elaborate on those mistakes (I just want to keep this in mind for future projects so If you could specify where those mistakes are I'd really appreciate it).
Well, as far as I can see, there's commas and a few capitalization errors here and there at the start. There's also periods missing where there should be. Like at 3:52, for Capitalization.
0:54 Has a comma missing after Phoenix says "thing."
@eyadamr1566 Again, they're very minor, but if I wanted this to be read by a professional, I would wanna make sure that I'm using the right spelling and make sure no grammar mistakes are present. I only watched the beginning, so maybe I'm being too judgy, but still. Even so, it's starting out great, so far.
If you have anyone or a friend, you can probably have them proofread it before publishing.
53:23 Who is Badd referring to as still out there?
Calisto Yew.
At this point in the timeline she hasn't been caught and no one knows where she is.
Hey, how'd you get the front facing sprite of Miles Edgeworth as a rookie prosecutor? Did you make or retrieve it?
@@MannyindahouseI just found it on Untitled Courtroom (an Ace Attorney discord server).
Credit for the creator in the description.
As a massive Feenris shipper who's always dying for content, I can't believe I found that Phoenix Down near my birthday! I actually wish we had more Iris in general. If this branches out from this literally point into a series, I'd be all in for it!
Love how you brought back the other older characters and giving Mia a massive role here that hits it off naturally with the couple as well. This was awesome and keep it up :DDD
@@redstarshooter85 I'm glad you found this near your birthday, we Feenris fans need more content in general.
I feel like Iris was done dirty by the series after Trials and Tribulations (and even then, the one case she was in steals half of her screentime and gives it to Dahlia instead), it would have been so cool to see her in Apollo Justice, quite a wasted opportunity in my opinion.
When I see a character that I feel would fit in the video pretty well, I try to incorporate them into the story,
and it wouldn't be a Trials and Tribulations video if Mia doesn't outsmart Dahlia in every way imaginable.
@@eyadamr1566 Oh yeah. Made my night!
Iris really was done dirty. She has so much potential to return, even as Phoenix's wife. I mean, this is a whole timeskip for a brand new protag we're talking here.
And of course, Mia Fey is so goated like that.
Cool. Now make an alternate scenario where Iris chooses Dahlia and possibly helps her kill everyone on her tail, the Dahlia ending.
@@randominternetvideos4232 Funny you should say that, Intially I was going to give the viewer a choice between picking Dahlia and Phoenix, picking Dahlia would just lead to a bad ending where Phoenix would get killed and Dahlia won't be caught because Iris will never defy her sister as she loves her too much.
However I realised that this bad ending was too depressing and having the choice wouldn't exactly work in video format so I changed my mind.
*Ahem*
"IOS sprites
This video ####ing sucks"
How was my Astra impression?
Anyway I give it a 10/10/10. That's the first time I've rated something 10/10/10. Be proud.
Also 28:48 IS THAT COMMUNION OF THE DEAD (also known as Into Nothingness from Ghost Trick)????
IOS Sprites?! I'm pretty sure every sprite I used was either a trilogy sprite or fanmade.
Sharp ears, it is indeed Towards Nothingness, Ghost Trick's ost is amazing.
@@eyadamr1566 Alright, then. I'm just bad at seeing the difference. Sorry.