Philistia, aka McMaster University, vs. Jordan Peterson - TFF Episode 61

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  • Опубліковано 29 гру 2024

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  • @emilystares3732
    @emilystares3732 4 місяці тому +23

    I stand in complete admiration of this video and every word of Professor Fiamengo's speech. Truth, when it is stated so well, is exilerating even when it is the bearer of bad news. You have been schooled, McMaster!! I graduated from McMaster in 2002, attending from 1998 - 2002, and although I had a positive experience overall, especially in retrospect I can see that these trends were beginning even back then. It is still a bit of a shock to see just how deeply it would go on to fall into Alice in (Fascist) Wonderland. Every now and then when I must briefly return to its campus I can feel it in the air. Very sad.

  • @Az-om8rw
    @Az-om8rw 4 місяці тому +20

    Dr. Peterson will probably make a video about his "re-education" , I'm looking forward to watching that!

  • @Phantasm8Spirit
    @Phantasm8Spirit 4 місяці тому +46

    You are a brave woman.

    • @AL-ni3ox
      @AL-ni3ox 4 місяці тому

      She’s hot too. 😍

  • @petermaquine8173
    @petermaquine8173 4 місяці тому +26

    thank you for your work.

  • @specialkalberta
    @specialkalberta 4 місяці тому +59

    The irony of what these people wrote on freedom of speech considering Peterson is the one that is the victim of a cancelation attempt by the Ontario College of Psychologists (he's back in the news because it looks like he has no choice but to undergo "re-education" to "correct" him of his "unacceptable" thinking) is mind boggling.

    • @comentaristametaforico9287
      @comentaristametaforico9287 4 місяці тому +1

      Academic "Justice"

    • @debblouin
      @debblouin 4 місяці тому +3

      @@stevengoldstein114What of his conduct violates the professional ethics standards to which you refer?

    • @flamesintheattic
      @flamesintheattic 4 місяці тому

      Read about what re-education was like in Communist Romania and you'll never sleep again.

    • @PantheraOnca60
      @PantheraOnca60 4 місяці тому

      ​@stevengoldstein114 Stop lying. Basic rights cannot be superceded by a "code." Add to that the penchant Leftists constantly display for warping words to weaponize them, and the fascist nature of Peterson's persecution becomes even clearer.

    • @smhollanshead
      @smhollanshead 4 місяці тому

      @@stevengoldstein114so Jordan Peterson can think what ever he wants, but he’s not allowed to say what he thinks? Even if it’s the truth? REALLY??? Canada has just entered the world of: the Emperor Has No Clothes.” Have you considered there is no difference between thinking and speaking. The government has no business regulating either thinking or speaking. The right to free speech has many sides. With freedom of speech there is also my right to hear what Jordan Peterson has to say. And, I want to hear what Jordan Peterson has to say even if it offends you, your brother, or your over sensitive sister!!!

  • @mikaelamacnaughton4768
    @mikaelamacnaughton4768 4 місяці тому +2

    Thank you for this report! Thank you for standing up for Dr Peterson!

  • @garypuckering7458
    @garypuckering7458 4 місяці тому +7

    Sophistry is alive and well at our universities, especially in the grievance studies, student/faculty committees and the administration.

  • @mikaelamacnaughton4768
    @mikaelamacnaughton4768 4 місяці тому +7

    I am an alumni of McMaster University and I am disgusted with what it has become! I used to be a donor but when they mandated COVID vaccines I became aware of their lack of integrity and true anti-science. I stopped donating at that time. What Dr. Peterson is doing is super important! We are obviously not a free country and headed straight into authoritarianism with the assistance of the indoctrination at our academic institutions! Disgusting! I was proud to be a Mac grad….but they have fallen! Academia has fallen prey to ideological extremes! Sad! So sad!

    • @serioustoday
      @serioustoday 4 місяці тому

      Your anti medical science stance is tripe.

    • @mikaelamacnaughton4768
      @mikaelamacnaughton4768 4 місяці тому

      @@serioustodayyou have effectively been propagandized! May your eyes be opened

  • @0num4
    @0num4 4 місяці тому +12

    "Words for me, shackles for thee."

  • @RayGee101
    @RayGee101 4 місяці тому +4

    Thank you for this video. You are a brave woman.

  • @malcolmchevrier6866
    @malcolmchevrier6866 4 місяці тому +7

    I wonder how much longer the tail will be wagging the dog. It is getting tiresome and it seems to be infecting even more of our future contributors. Thank you for your reasoned post.

  • @BartdeBoisblanc
    @BartdeBoisblanc 4 місяці тому +35

    These are cry bullies.

  • @gpknee
    @gpknee 4 місяці тому +5

    Excellent work! Thank you!

  • @doer-knower
    @doer-knower 4 місяці тому +10

    Add note that the video is re-uploaded August 2024 and please give details like date of its previous upload, date of the platform's removal of it, and loss of the attached comments of the years of that timeframe.

    • @philliphickox4023
      @philliphickox4023 4 місяці тому +5

      Previous videos were not removed by Studio Brûlée or Janice, they were removed by another party with the loss of all the comments.

  • @lightofathousand
    @lightofathousand 4 місяці тому +1

    Imagine being that threatened by the prospect of a guy coming in and telling you to clean your room.

  • @VeniVidiVid
    @VeniVidiVid 4 місяці тому +14

    In a paroxysm of inclusion, they needed to exclude Peterson.

  • @ricshumack9134
    @ricshumack9134 4 місяці тому +13

    Thanks, Thomas Sowells anointed are visibly strutting their finest plumage at Universities

    • @joanr3189
      @joanr3189 4 місяці тому +4

      I don’t understand this comment.

    • @ricshumack9134
      @ricshumack9134 4 місяці тому +5

      @@joanr3189 Thomas Sowell is well worth reading, in particular The Vision of the Anointed. Anointed is broadly analogous to elites. A good quote of his is "the problem isn't that Johnny can't read. It isn't even that Johnny can't think. The problem is that Johnny doesn't know what thinking is, he confuses it with feeling"

    • @qwerty90615
      @qwerty90615 4 місяці тому +4

      ​@joanr3189 There are many UA-cam videos of Sowell interviewed. I was aghast when I discovered him and realized that such a jewel of a mind had escaped my notice for most of my adult life.

    • @ricshumack9134
      @ricshumack9134 4 місяці тому +2

      @@qwerty90615 Likewise. Many of his most incisive books date back to the 80s and 90s.

    • @qwerty90615
      @qwerty90615 4 місяці тому

      @ricshumack9134 It shows that the supposed solidarity based on racial unity is a joke. The Jesse Jackson and BLM leaders, etc, have an agenda centered on self-aggrandizement.

  • @specialkalberta
    @specialkalberta 4 місяці тому +9

    8:36 I wouldn't say Marcuse's essay is an easy read as it seemed to me after about one paragraph that it's utterly unclear when the word tolerance is really intended to mean intolerance and vice versa.

  • @Lizardo451
    @Lizardo451 4 місяці тому +9

    Thanks guys!

  • @HondoTrailside
    @HondoTrailside 4 місяці тому +13

    Parents who will have just completed about 20 years of working for their children's interests, and paying for their upkeep, are idiots if they send them to McMaster. One of my kids went mostly on the dime of the Liberal government back in the period described here, and that is the last we have pretty much seen of her. Whatever you do, do not support this institution, and past graduates should stop contributing to it. Resistance does make a difference as after the 2017 fiasco, they did send out requests to Parents to contribute to a review of the situation. Though I don't think it had any effect, but they clearly were stung for having risen to assume their rightful notoriety as a place where free exchange of ideas was not an option.

  • @martin5504
    @martin5504 4 місяці тому +12

    Academics have lost the plot. They behave like teenagers. Maybe they should get a proper job.

  • @geraldcoffey3303
    @geraldcoffey3303 4 місяці тому +10

    Any professors who opposes free speech is dangerous to society. Some people need to grow up

    • @theunaccompaniedsenior
      @theunaccompaniedsenior 4 місяці тому

      "Strangers On A Train"

    • @qwerty90615
      @qwerty90615 4 місяці тому

      Opposition to free speech is tantamount to waving the white flag. In any authentic debate, demanding silence from the opposition because their words are so hurtful is like placing a blind driver to drive the bus. We advance knowledge by seeing how opposing positions interact. Victimhood Olympics cannot replace open debate.

  • @victorbarbieri7686
    @victorbarbieri7686 4 місяці тому

    Thanks!

  • @isaiah30v8
    @isaiah30v8 4 місяці тому +4

    The second step to implement a fascist regime, is to fascinate the fools while muzzling the intelligent.
    .
    --------- Bertrand Russell
    .

  • @SteveeCee
    @SteveeCee 4 місяці тому +1

    Well said! A very informed and interesting post in support of free speech.

  • @bobphilip3109
    @bobphilip3109 4 місяці тому

    Sure hope nobodys feelings were hurt. Great commentary, we need more people like this.

  • @qlamoy
    @qlamoy 4 місяці тому +1

    When I attended U of O the cause de jour was the Tamil Tiger protesting at the Parliament Buildings.
    The encouragement to accompany the protesters was also rewarded academically.
    I was confronted for refusing to participate in and holding an opposition to the Sri Lankan civil war.
    Why could we not debate the limit of protestation and allow counter-protesting?

  • @frakismaximus3052
    @frakismaximus3052 4 місяці тому +6

    I bet that committee never responded to provide their citation lol

  • @paulwary
    @paulwary 4 місяці тому +11

    In today’s world, the so-called hegemonic ideas have barely any more traction than the craziest ideas. Society hangs together by layers of ideas, institutions, communities of practice, laws, habit etc that seem to me more and more fragile, poorly understood, and isolated.

    • @qwerty90615
      @qwerty90615 4 місяці тому

      Good observation. The broad social breakdowns we are experiencing indicate major flaws in foundational precepts. Identifying the flaws is not so simple or easy as people tend to assume.

  • @garryparkes9121
    @garryparkes9121 4 місяці тому

    Thank you for your wisdom. Speach is paramount. Fredom of speach is Paramount second only to life itself. The Universities have become a hotbed of insanity.

  • @axeman2638
    @axeman2638 4 місяці тому +2

    Photo of group @1:45 38 people, 6 men, yay equality.

  • @richardmartyn7865
    @richardmartyn7865 4 місяці тому +1

    Definitely some 'new developments' in that group shot.

  • @KenDavis761
    @KenDavis761 4 місяці тому +1

    They couldn't even bother to show up to challenge his ideas or clarify their understanding.

  • @normanstewart7130
    @normanstewart7130 4 місяці тому +1

    Whatever happened to "I Disapprove of What You Say, But I Will Defend to the Death Your Right to Say It"? I wonder if I can send my degree back to McMaster.

  • @fmgeqs
    @fmgeqs 4 місяці тому +3

    It is amazing how these college professors cannot understand the meaning of and need for free speech. With a group that large you would have thought at least one of them would think they had the knowledge, qualifications and/or expertise to have been on the program or debated Dr Peterson. Instead all they did was promoted an active protest, which was both cowardly and embarrassing for an institution of higher learning. Unfortunately, most universities are now intolerant of diverse ideas while insisting on being tolerated.

  • @parrotraiser6541
    @parrotraiser6541 4 місяці тому +8

    "Social" is an adjective that negates any noun to which it is applied. Social justice has nothing to do with justice (a term which has lost most of its value anyway), and social work isn't work.

    • @claudiamanta1943
      @claudiamanta1943 4 місяці тому +2

      Really…? 😃
      I agree that ‘social justice’ is an idiocy.

    • @mikegray8776
      @mikegray8776 4 місяці тому +1

      I haven’t heard anyone make this observation before - but you’re not wrong. In the same way that the word “Studies” invariably implies the opposite to the adjective which precedes it.
      The utterly transparent weaponisation of language is both maddening and hilarious at the same time.

    • @claucemicro1080
      @claucemicro1080 4 місяці тому

      Sorry to disagree. Social workers who aren’t just theorists are hard workers.

    • @claudiamanta1943
      @claudiamanta1943 4 місяці тому

      @@claucemicro1080 Most of them are spineless bureaucrats, not real social workers. Social work itself is seen as a crap job done by crap people who work with the social refuse of society. Thanks for trying, though.

  • @Allan_aka_RocKITEman
    @Allan_aka_RocKITEman 3 місяці тому

    *_"The monster never sees a monster in the mirror."_*
    - J. Michael Straczynski, creator of the science fiction TV show BABYLON 5

  • @cbyron9308
    @cbyron9308 4 місяці тому

    How can they understand this issue in 2017 when the research is still muddled?

  • @AndyJarman
    @AndyJarman 4 місяці тому +7

    This video is seven years old. How long, how long must we sing this song?

    • @MicahMicahel
      @MicahMicahel 4 місяці тому

      Trudeau/NDP are pushing a new bill that will give the government the right to give life sentences in prison for speech they don't like. If that law passes before Peterson comes here, they will put him in prison for life. They might not but if they pass that law we are a different country automatically so we can't predict their actions based on the past.
      After the lock downs, we can't trust anymore.

    • @philipmoss4027
      @philipmoss4027 4 місяці тому

      I think you're expecting things to change far, far too quickly.
      You've got to realize that most people are disengaged with the discourse about "the health of our institutions," let alone our institutions of higher learning. True, if you briefed them ("most people") on the cases that excite our attention, they would be on our side. The tenured radicals of our universities are palpably corrupt. But the mass of people will never be made to pay attention to a whole series of examples, across institutions, so that they'd be persuaded that: bad people are being paid to conduct our higher education (and it matters!).
      So, if not through the force of majorities, how can we change things? Only by singing this song. And by drawing as much possible impetus from the adverse circumstances we face.

  • @georgejo7905
    @georgejo7905 4 місяці тому +3

    Let the students try to get jobs with contentious attitudes , I certainly would not visit any kind of therapist or practitioner with their attitude.

  • @serioustoday
    @serioustoday 4 місяці тому +1

    Canadian universities are highly publicly funded which allows them to overpay and underwork professors in the easy faculties of arts, philosophy, political "science" and psychology.

  • @kelvinlord8452
    @kelvinlord8452 4 місяці тому

    How many ways could we align our freedoms , speech , freedom of speech with what most of nature aligns with ?

  • @SDFNI3894YR
    @SDFNI3894YR 4 місяці тому +1

    I'm a man who appreciates a beautiful women.
    I'm also a man who appreciates beautiful women with brain, much more.
    I offer my appreciation to you ma'am.
    kindly accept.

  • @douglaslindsaychapman5188
    @douglaslindsaychapman5188 4 місяці тому

    Use to work with people from former Soviet Union held countries. Taught me many things about repression of think, speak and actions.

  • @spm97500
    @spm97500 4 місяці тому

    Excellent commentary! I look forward to watching more of your content. I just found having a discrepancy between the commentary and the text on screen a bit confusing. I understand you might be worried some is too long, but maybe have a look at how Russel Brand does it. He breaks it down in small chunks, and reads it word for word.
    But otherwise, great content and analysis! Keep it up!

    • @StudioBrule
      @StudioBrule  4 місяці тому +1

      Great suggestion, but very time consuming. Russell Brand has a well-paid team doing it for him.

  • @alexsimonelis164
    @alexsimonelis164 4 місяці тому

    Yes! Fiamengo is excellent!

  • @hjumper8238
    @hjumper8238 4 місяці тому +1

    The students are patterning a pseudo sophisticated way of communicating. In other words, the new pattern for throwing BS around with what sounds like deep thinking but in fact is only noise making for scores in ego.
    Thank you for producing this and pointing out the stupidity that sounds like intelligence but actually only mimics what real intelligence such as that Jordan Peterson uses.

    • @hjumper8238
      @hjumper8238 4 місяці тому

      @@stevengoldstein114 Sorry Steve I’ve understood him perfectly since I first heard him publicly speak. As a matter of fact, I’ve reviewed nearly all of his classes that were recorded and have a high regard for his intelligence.

    • @hjumper8238
      @hjumper8238 4 місяці тому

      @@stevengoldstein114 Steven, besides talking, what actions has he taken such as organizing any type of activist groups, sponsored or funded radicalized entities, or physically harmed anybody?
      Compare this to those who are attacking him and ask yourself why are they doing so, their motivations?

  • @marionbacon5821
    @marionbacon5821 4 місяці тому +2

    McThinkers! What a great expression!

    • @johnemorrison-kj3ox
      @johnemorrison-kj3ox 4 місяці тому

      @@marionbacon5821 Good OL’ UNI Mc DIVERSITIES of HIGHer EDGEAMACATION ! 😳😃

  • @cd0130
    @cd0130 3 місяці тому

    Good content.

  • @SynnJynn
    @SynnJynn 4 місяці тому +1

    Free speech for me but not for thee....

  • @qwerty90615
    @qwerty90615 4 місяці тому +7

    Shift the focus to hard science. Although they fail often, hard scientific institutions generally recognize the need to defend normative ideas against claims of validity about non-normative thinking. Why? Because non-normative thinking is usually incorrect, and hard science is conservative.
    The young tend to think that new, revolutionary ideas are better, and anything is better than what we have now. How wrong can they be? They'll learn, maybe.
    Of course, non-normative thinking is very possibly correct, but that cannot be known unless it is contested by normative thinkers. Honest people welcome the contest, and strive to maintain respect and clear thought, avoiding logical fallacies.
    All we seem to get from these people is harrassment.

    • @serioustoday
      @serioustoday 4 місяці тому +1

      In science it is not enough to be a "skeptic" and "heretic". Science requires evidence from experiments, observations, rational calculations and cogent arguments and review.

    • @qwerty90615
      @qwerty90615 4 місяці тому +1

      @serioustoday Yes. Science is knowledge and knowledge is achieved by honest work, not by believing the claims of those who said they did the work, no matter their pedigree.
      Science is not a survey or popularity contest.

  • @user-rl5nd3ys8p
    @user-rl5nd3ys8p 4 місяці тому

    That was a "special ed" class photo. 👍🇦🇺❤️

  • @spm97500
    @spm97500 4 місяці тому

    Fair enough. Maybe in that case put smaller quotes or read the whole thing? Maybe it’s just me and my ADHD, but it just get confused trying to read something while hearing a different audio.

  • @wendellbabin6457
    @wendellbabin6457 4 місяці тому

    2:44 EVERY Single ONE should have ALL of their academic credentials REVOKED and Jailed for the maximum sentence under appeopriate Hate Speech law THEMSELVES! AND their ENTIRE published work removes from general Public access and Archived for Posterity for TRUE Academic and Legal scholarship. By folks who follow the Constitution.
    Maybe some "lived experience" with folks they have railroaded with Hate Speech convictions could Provide some Clarity.

  • @YSFmemories
    @YSFmemories 4 місяці тому

    If gender ideology is scientific, thenhow is gender a social construct?

  • @TubeOnRichard
    @TubeOnRichard 4 місяці тому +1

    I didn't think that Prof Peterson teaches "in person" classes or has patients, and hasn't for a long time. I thought all his efforts were focused on the web based Peterson Academy. Maybe Prof Fiamengo should teach a class there!

    • @TubeOnRichard
      @TubeOnRichard 4 місяці тому +2

      @@stevengoldstein114 Wow stevengoldstein114, sounds like you don't like Peterson, no matter. He is a clinical therapist and psychologist, he has his DOCTOR title, even if he is not practicing. I'm sure that they are working on getting certification, but you have to start somewhere

    • @TubeOnRichard
      @TubeOnRichard 4 місяці тому +1

      @@stevengoldstein114 Congratulations on your 2 business degrees! After having read your voluminous accreditation "Sine Qua Nons" rendition, I don't understand what that has to do with Prof Fiamengo's comments in the video. It did however get me to read though the Peterson academy bla bla to see what they are offering. Beyond the satisfaction of learning something, it would appear that they are partnering directly with companies and organizations who will recognize that education, though they don't say who.

    • @TubeOnRichard
      @TubeOnRichard 4 місяці тому

      @@stevengoldstein114 I agree. I would guess that it will be through the conservative network ie. Daily Wire, Prager U, Hoover institution etc

    • @TubeOnRichard
      @TubeOnRichard 4 місяці тому +2

      @@stevengoldstein114 Hmm, I'm not sure where this is going. The idea was that once you have done a "study" that there is a company or business that will employ you. Through the aforementioned network there must be hundreds if not thousands of businesses. What is the purpose of certification or accreditation if not to facilitate employment?

    • @TubeOnRichard
      @TubeOnRichard 4 місяці тому +2

      @@stevengoldstein114 Ok? You do know that hackers are the ones who get hired by the FBI, CIA and other alphabet "agencies". Sure the "established" certification means something, but not everything. I think the idea is to learn a subject without needing an ideology to go along with it. Schools and institutions have been politically captured. Since when is being politically correct a good thing? It means that you don't have to think, just repeat the mantra

  • @gg_rider
    @gg_rider 4 місяці тому

    Lovett Fort-Whiteman was a rather famous or inFAMOUS American social justice and racial Justice warrior in the 20th century. You won't hear much about him because his life was canceled by the government for stating harmful opinions. Okay, it was the government of the Soviet Union and he criticized Joseph Stalin and he was accused of being a trotskyite, and being a trotskyite was equated as being the same as a nazi, so it was obviously vastly extremely different from what's going on and brewing in our current political discourse in America and Canada.

  • @duanekeith7816
    @duanekeith7816 4 місяці тому +2

    Can't have Peterson terrifyingly pull the curtain aside and display the frauds.
    Proundly antidemocratic, but profoundly Democrat, statement.

  • @Yirajasenpai
    @Yirajasenpai 4 місяці тому +1

    When the self choosen majestatis pluralis is state of the art again, it’s time to say yes and open and end every sentence with „your majesty“. That is the least I want from anyone whos self proclaimed pronounces I‘m forced to use. Otherwise my feelings and my patholigical god-complex is triggert and as a mentaly sick individual I‘m very vulnerable and that must be considert and excapted by everyone as such. 😎 brave new world I bless you! Deus lo vult😂

  • @MrCrabguy
    @MrCrabguy 4 місяці тому

    Bump for the algorithm

  • @cheyennealvis8284
    @cheyennealvis8284 4 місяці тому

    I'm starting to think this is ALL A.I. 😄

  • @stretchstretch9112
    @stretchstretch9112 4 місяці тому +1

    Sad

  • @YSFmemories
    @YSFmemories 4 місяці тому

    They keep calling themselves inclusive when they are anything but

  • @Hilian86
    @Hilian86 4 місяці тому +1

    comment

  • @cameronidk2
    @cameronidk2 4 місяці тому +4

    Never enough janice files "wink"

  • @theunaccompaniedsenior
    @theunaccompaniedsenior 4 місяці тому

    Never trust anyone under thirty.

  • @martinjohnson5498
    @martinjohnson5498 4 місяці тому +1

    Thanks!

  • @emilystares3732
    @emilystares3732 4 місяці тому +1

    Thanks!

    • @StudioBrule
      @StudioBrule  4 місяці тому

      Thank you so much for your support!