People in power wouldn’t allow voting to happen if they knew it could actually change and stop how they want things to be run.. I truely believe voting is nothing but a sham now.
What kind of democracy allows the parties to install their leaders after one gets voted in, what kind of democracy allows 'coalitions' undermining the ppls will. We never had a democracy in Australia or the UK, America's democracy became a fascist corporate dictatorship many decades ago
A working class guy from Luton is, for some reason, considered more dangerous than anyone else. Not even ACTUAL terrorists and ACTUAL grooming gangs. It’s insane.
Yes, ......sad ! Also, didn't Tommy allude to, or at least insinuate, that there was 'police' involvement with the Rotherham case ?? If that was true, that would be a huge reason that they would have to 'shut him down'.......
@@dennisbronson3058 Why you so quick to assume Tommy Robinson a serial convicted criminal has more credible information than the police and courts, the reason they wanted to "shut him down" was because we was legitimately trying to derail the trial so the offenders of these grooming gangs could be acquited so he had another thing to gaslight people and demand riots about. He doesn't want them to be brought to justice because in his experience nothing is gained from it, he just gets out of jail and commits more crimes
be wary that douglas murray is a mouthpiece for israel so he would put them over uk... anyone in the uk who is supporting israel should know you are supporting being held hostage by israel and its put british lives last and jewish lives first !!! same for usa ... uk created israel to ensure 0 jew in uk since that failed and also israel doesnt know how to behave as a country -- its uk - our responisibility as brits to destory this monster and return to peace-- they pay people to create chaos within uk and usa just for their benefit !!!!!!! seen tooo many stories of them being caught and yet still bow to them like muppets!!!
@@bencobley4929 Oh get real. What an absurd comment. It's very well documented. What if you're not being honest and are just a shill, muddying the waters to support the gangs - inadvertently or deliberately? Ugh. Go and live in the area.
@@Shawshank.r The way he has been treated I wouldn't blame him if he stayed there. He has been incredibly persecuted for telling the truth. Bet you wouldn't have as much bravery in your little finger.
@@myman3879 That’s because he’s actually been there, read up on it and lived it. The Jews have been persecuted by Arabs since the Quran was written and probably before. They were attacked with a view to extermination on the day of their independence and almost weekly ever since. The Palestinian people elected a political party with extermination of a nation as its single manifesto……..
When I finally gave TR a chance and actually listened to him I was shocked! I couldn't believe how much the media and establishment had painted a completely different picture. That man is a force for good no doubt. There is no racism at all...and the burning desire for a working class lad to shout about the problems against establishment forces is quite frankly heroic and humane in the extreme.
Douglas and Tommy, what can I say .........one thing comes to mind.....your both amazing.!! Thanks for saying what millions feel.. don't worry though cuz now people will see. It's only a matter of time now. Thank you.
UK officials should be in prison for what was allowed to happen to British children in the UK on their watch. But no, they persecute Tommy Robinson instead.
But what is the average Brit doing to change things, exactly ? Real change can happen at the *local* level. - So if a teacher indoctrinates your kid, you need to rally the other parents and challenge the principal - And if a mayor wants to bring in migrants to town, you need to rally the neighbours and petition. Howver, just "hoping" that a celebrity - Murray or Peterson - compensate for the average guy's cowardice.. is plain ludicrous.
Thank the lord for people like Douglas Murray, Jordan Peterson, Tommy Robinson etc., who are prepared to shout the truth from the rooftops. I’m sure they have fears for their lives in these twisted days that are filled with evil traits of lies being the norm in the media
But what is the average Brit doing to change things, exactly ? Real change can also happen at the *local* level. - So if a teacher indoctrinates your kid, you need to rally the other parents and challenge the principal - And if a mayor wants to bring in migrants to town, you need to rally the neighbours and petition. Howver, just "hoping" that a celebrity - Murray or Peterson - compensate for the average guy's cowardice.. is plain ludicrous.
Douglas Murray would never do an interview with Tommy Robinson. Robinson is just too toxic in the UK. Even Murray would think twice about it. Not saying that in a judgemental way, just my opinion.
Mind Begs the Question: ▪︎If those who attack Synagogues deemed Terrorists ▪︎If those who attack Mosques deemed Working Class Citizens ▪︎Equality or Supremacist?
@@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings Are you trying to be deep? It seems a little short sighted, and a little naive. Do you actually support the values of islam? Would you go and live in a muslim country?
Mind Begs the Question: ▪︎If Islam is same message Christ taught ▪︎Worship One God,pure Monotheism ▪︎Forbid Usury,Homosexuality,Adultery,Gambling,Swine,etc ▪︎Anti-Islam is Anti-Christ,no?
@@ItzzJG found it in Jordans list of videos.. its been uploaded a month ago... You get a warning before you can see it and you cannot interact with the video in any way
its not just rape though, like children are getting trapped and manipulated with drugs to become mules for drugs or prossies. Its hard not being able to express the severity of the situation with what we call it but "grooming" is the most accurate description right now.
They are calling them grooming gangs because it describes their method. They literally groom underage girls into engaging with them sexually rather than using brute physical force. How else do you think they got away with it for so many years? Sure, it's "statutory rape" by British law when sexual intercourse occurs when the girls are under 16. However, in most of the cases members of these gangs wait for the girls to hit sixteen, furthermore keep in mind the age of consent is fourteen in more than half the states in the Europe. So, "grooming" explains the gangs actions to a T and also makes it clear to the rest of Europe their actions are not deemed moral regardless of the issue around legality of age of consent.
Murray is weak/ineffectual AND he supports the globalists' war with Russia in Ukraine. England needs wartime political leadership, not mealy-mouthed "gentlemen" like Murray, because England is at WAR. England is being swallowed by the New World Order. 1500 year-old England is being raped to death with the globalist hand of censorship over its mouth
He's the best. I told my kids to be like him. They asked me about his convictions for assault and fraud. I said to them to do the same and try get more convictions then Tommy because he is a legend
This is what this country needs; fair honest measured analysis of on going discontent openly discussed in an intelligent way inclusive of one imprisoned for having voiced his aggravated public discontent. A much needed honest debate!
After what that slouch Piers Morgan just did to Tommy, I’m so happy to hear Douglas give him the credit he so deserves. Europe should be proud to have Tommy!
Yeah old macho Piers. Like I ever cared what that mediocre man had to say on anything. On other hand when Jordan speaks I listen because he uses logic and arguments and intellect Piers wasn't blessed with.
@@nemanjastankovic4439 you shouldn't dismiss the mediocre, there's a great deal of them and they make up most of the lower sections of society. High intellect can often lead to lying, corruption and manipulation. Having watched that interview I would say that's the bigger problem with him. He's not honest, not with others and not with himself.
Tommy is a Fascist with criminal convictions for violence and US passport fraud and football mob violence He is very extreme violent far right. I am a 1945 fan...
Only some of us have no free speech, other demographic's can say what they like with no consequences, because of 2 tier police, government and justice system
Douglas makes the point that I have been saying for a long time. Not only different two tier treatment based on your views but also based on your class. Well said Douglas Murray, spot on.
100% & They dont Intergrated in any Western Country, Just want to take over with the Largest Death Cult in the World .As a Death Cult i mean that once inside Western Countries the attempt to take over and corrupt whatever is left to Corrupt & only have their Beliefs from the Country and Religion they fled and eventually continue the same as the shitholes they supposedly fled from .Just Country Destroyers ?.
I'm from an area in the North of the uk that is increasingly being used to house illigall immigration. With this, the area has already seen a rise in crime, including sexual assaults. I am a husband and father to two daughters. I'm worried. I'm also in the military, and I'm afraid that if I say my opinion in the "wrong" way, I'll lose my job. I don't know what to do? I work in a diverse job with incredible people who love this country, but I can't criticise the government's immigration policy or the people moving into my area with being labelled far right. I feel powerless and increasingly angry.
The first thing is to establish your point about the relationship between rise in immigration in your area and the rise of crime? This is a problem that has been created by policy that has led to the majority of immigrants not being able to work legally until their immigration cases have been settled so would that not result in an increase of the immigrants being more likely to resort to some kind of illegal way to earn their living and that would be the reason why the areas that have increased immigrants are more likely to have rises in crime? I’m really not saying that this is the case I’m really asking anyone who may be more informed about this issue and educate me about this.
@@Shaun-vm3kn Even supposing this was true - which I do not believe it is - why have the issue at all? Why should the British swallow these difficulties? It doesn't have to be this way. They don't have to put up with this. Other countries don't.
You work in a "diverse" place with "amazing people who love this country"? Yeah? Haha you're a moroon, and part of the problem. A soldier who won't speak up on behalf of his country and the safety of those he loves because "he's afraid of losing his job" hahaha what a coward.
Thank You😊 Jordan Peterson for sharing a deep necessary conversation with Douglas Murray. Two brilliant minds carrying on an in-depth discussion on the importance of immigration policy.
I have watched Douglas for about 15 years. He is completely right about 95 % of what he says. Very interesting man. ! Extremely brave and well balanced gentleman. Britain is becoming a battleground!
He's a rabble rouser who knows there's good money to be made writing this stuff and doing appearances like this. You lot are such a soft touch for these grifters. Stephen Y-L is just the same... where do you think he gets the cash for his 5 star holidays?
Tommy Robinson is a patriotic. Because of his charisma he can stir the souls of every English native. I respect TR. The other person who is patriotic is Douglas Murray. As a result of inner conflict Britain is swirling in its own destruction. Britain needs Douglas Murray and Tommy Robinson at this crucial time. Don't let Britain be destroyed.
Patriotic lol your kidding. Go find out who the real guy is. He is of isreal origin he has plenty of documents around him being with the isreal army holding weapons and photos with promising JDL folks... your being fooled my friend... Tommy is not even his real name, he is not British, he does not live here either. He set up the EDL along with people who control the JDL it's all available if you wanted to educate yourself
@@Western-Supremacistand English mate, don’t forget that! We brunted this in London first. One of the biggest things I resent is how my nationality is ignored except for when football is played. 🏴
@@rickywiddicks I hate football! 😂 BUT, I agree with your sentiment. I'm VERY proud to be English. BUT if you study English history for the last few hundred years it's hard to separate Welsh, Irish and Scottish influence. When we think of the Redcoats marching against Napoleon we often forget that nearly a third were Irish, a fifth to a quarter were Scottish, and there were plenty of Welsh too. During times like this it's good to remember that being proud of our individual heritage is good but together we're better.
Oooh...PLEASE reconsider resigning your English status. You can be English and PROUD and brothers with our brothers!! Please don't relinquish your Englishness!!
People have not listened to Tommy Robinson, but shut him down because they have already judged him as far right. His speech at the Oxford Union was very articulate and won me over from presumptions I had been led to believe. Thank God Douglas is brave enough to speak out and keep these concerns on the front burner.
@@henrymoreland8719 Thanks for that. Please close the door on your way out and try not to fall down the stairs. You're sounding extremely wobbly today.
Douglas fled England and l am sure l can find videos of him saying the opposite of Tommy from years ago. He only says what he says because he's fled England
I am a UK Citizen, and I am so deeply grateful to you two gentlemen for articulating so carefully the issues that lie behind the present disturbances on British streets. And it is so especially beautiful and helpful that it is a US thinker coming humbly together with a British thinker. And the length of the broadcast 12-15 mins is just perfect. British people can often have a low opinion of Americans. But you gentleman have set a bar, a standard for others to emulate. Those of us who try to make sense of the terrible decline of the West, who continue to believe that change for the better is still possible, and who refuse the counsel of despair, need to listen to many more conversations like these. My sincere hope is that you will build on the strength of your most excellent rapport, and that you will forge a long term and public friendship that we all can benefit from. As our deeply corrupt national media continues to dig its own grave, a whole new genre of alternate media is emerging which is helping us all to think, and to think deeply. Sincere thanks to you both. Chris Moyler. UK
The problem in the west is that we have Abandoned our Judaeo Christian roots. Now this "Woke" DEI secular humanist religion has taken its place and this chaos, unrest and violence is the result. All of this evil comes from left wing politicians and the moronic people who are voting for them.
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He's Canadian. Americans haven't changed, don't you worry
I wish our governments 🇨🇦🇬🇧 would listen to you both having this full debate and take it onboard. This discussion is like a mouthpiece for the sensible-thinking electorate who wish only the best for our children’s future and the future of our respective nations.
Dear Dr. Petersen. You were a physician of the mind. You are now a physician of the health of whole societies. Please keep doing this, gnawing at the knots that bind our freedom of speech and thought, and the perversion of our language to obscure, conceal and silence opinions and truths rather than clarify and expose and debate the issues in our society. If you and Douglas Murray are silenced, I shall know the culture war is finally and irrevocably lost. Godspeed. Kindest regards, David.
The problem is that Tommy Robinson has until recently, not been held accountable, but Robinson, Farage, and Reform UK, have been labelled, for what they are, they are on the same page as Murray. NEO-NAZI'S one and all. They will not only be held accountable but will also be found Guilty, and brought to the justice that they deserve, a Nuremberg-style trial would be the ideal platform for these "Uber Mensch."
Who would ever have thought you would hear dr peterson talking with and about tommy robinson let alone adding douglas murray into the mix....love it ❤❤❤
Thank you for discussing what many won’t. Tommy & Douglas are British heros. 1.2M gross migration into the UK in the last 12 month. This does not include illegal migration. Using net migration is misleading… The UK is losing skills & high net worth individuals in favour of many unskilled/low skilled & different cultures too fast to integrate. 9M people of working age claiming benefits & 51% of people receiving some form of state support. I gave up & left the UK, working class, white, female, educated myself & work long & hard… it was too sickening for me to see the abuse of the benefits system, the unsafe streets, & standard of living decreasing. I was born in London, even though back then I was a minority white person in my class, the place is still unrecognizable from where I grew up. The white working class is ignored in favour of non-Christian groups. There needs to be investment in the indigenous populations (not handouts). I have no issue in CONTROLLED migration genuinely bringing skilled contributors to the economy who want to integrate. The genuine asylum seekers are also welcome with the condition that they assimilate & contribute … currently the majority of these so-called asylum seekers are male of military age 🤷🏻♀️🙄… with very different views of women’s place in society & treatment thereof vs the UK. It’s dangerous. Are we going to shut down the streets for every country’s nationals to celebrate their multiple national days? … except St George’s of course. It is ridiculous.
@joannaroche2356 Wow, that is a brilliant, thought provoking reply!! Its crazy that someone like you who has obviously worked hard to get to where you are, has now moved abroad to better yourself and feel safe. I hope you have a great life in a country that is not having the issues the UK is, a terrible government that will surely go down in history as the worst in living memory. Shame on Starmer and Cooper.
Me too I feel such a fool to have listened to the msm without actually listening to what Tommy was actually saying first and then forming my own opinion, I will definately be more mindful in the future to do some research of my own when the media are demonising someone to the extent they have with Tommy
Me too, feel such a fool for listening to 'press coverage' without actually listening to what he was actually pointing out to us, I will definitely be more mindful to do my own research into the people that are being monstrously demonized by journalists and come to my own opinion
Im French living in London for 9 years. Yesterday my best friend and I went to central London and the first thing we said is that this city is unrecognizable. More and more homelessness, people with mental health issues and perverts in the streets. It feels unsafe. I used to love this city and now I want to leave. Paris my home town is in the same state. What the political class is doing is pure evil!
Yeah it's amazing what 14 years of tory rule will do to a country.
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@@Chimpdecheese It is quite s statement to call that a "rule". They are completely disinterested with ruling the country. All they care about are their popularity ratings and money they receive. The rest is none of their business unless it threatens of of the aforementioned things
@@Chimpdecheese Blair started it. Please don't think it's Tories vs Labour because both are simply 2 pieces of bread outside the same shit sandwich. Globalist puppets pandering to brussels. Reform party is our only chance. Trump saw his country going the same way and look how the man was vilified at every opportunity with cut and paste media lies and propaganda.
Met Tommy years ago in my hometown when he was in court, shook his hand and told him I'm on his side, that still stands, more so now than ever. Thankyou sirs for the difference you make to us, the silenced 🇬🇧
I left school at 16 in 1982, no qualifications, joined army 1983 -86 , 1987 joined fire service for 30 years. Now at 59 years old. I am not racist or hate anyone, I have common sense that the government do not use… please listen to Douglas Murray and Tommy Robinson, that’s my thought..?
I don't always agree with his methods and at times he is his own worst enemy but as an ex Met custody officer who has dealt directly with Tommy and other members of the EDL, he/they were always well behaved and polite (far beyond those who oppose him) and I know for a fact that he/they are targeted by the establishment, the title of his book "Enemy of the State" is bang on. The fact that he has matured and is still telling it as it is, despite the concerted effort to destroy him earns him my respect!
@@independentandfree6466A coward 😂 he and his family have been threatened with death threats for years, gangs have been constantly attacking his home and yet he still shows his face and exposes how Muslims just get away with everything in this country and how corrupt our government is. Watch his documentary, he doesn’t even lie about anything, he’s got video proof that councils pay people to keep their mouth shut on a Muslim lad who is supposedly a ‘victim’ but turns out he beats girls and is always saying he’s gonna rape them. Go watch his video, or are you just gonna put your head back in the mud and ignore the truth? And you call him a coward 😂 the irony.
You can shout Tommy down and throw racist accusations at him but he will never back down. He is more honest and has more integrity than any of our political leaders.
I really listened to Tommy and he admits to his mistakes. I have respect for him, he fights against big atrocities the government doesn’t allow to address openly. Like someone wrote, I’m also glad Douglas gave him the credit he addresses deep concerns of the public.
I have never seen him admit to making the mistake of recieving funding from a proscribed terrorist organisation (the JDL). I have never seen him comment on the list of 15 or so of his former friends and associates that have turned out to be sex offenders.
They understand but happily ignore - the political class (with a few exceptions) think they are better than the electorate, that most of us are stupid and need direction from them. The course they have set this country on has already lead to death and the gradual destruction of the British way of life, like a dripping tap...we are running out of time to save the UK. I estimate the bucket is half full now, once filled completely, we will see tribalism once again on these lands. A chilling prospect.
Two of my most favourite intelligent people, having the most sensible and understandable conversation about my country. I thank you both from the bottom of my heart, for doing this and for being there for us without any hatred to anyone. I wish people like you both was running things here, because you both talk the most sense I’ve ever heard. I’m not far right, I’m multicultural , having grown up in London since 1970s. I’ve seen everything in my life time, I need to see to know this conversation is spot on. It feels like there are evil forces at work regardless of nationality
Tommy knows what he is talking about he was raised in Luton The same thing happened in my home town in the North, the town is unrecognisable It’s like being in South Asia, or the Middle East when I go there
As a Chinese immigrant joined British citizen, i do not support British gov open the door for this illegal immigrants ! I m angry at labor for all their stupid policies. I see all this recent riots is exactly the consequence of wrong policies and main stream media mislabeling. I wish I could be in the protest
In US I have some relatives who married Chinese immigrations. They came here and work like crazy. They do not cause problems. They do not commit crimes. But people in charge can never admit that only _certain_ groups come in and start problems. Certain specific people.
We are facing exactly the same situation in France with politicians not just ignoring people's claims on immigration but insulting the people for being racist, fascist etc etc. I strongly support the British people in this fight and take my hat off to them for their courage!
"“The first one was a bloke in Island Street… I went down and knocked this door and he came down and I asked him if he was a Roman Catholic and he said ‘Aye’ and I shot him five times in the head. He had black curly hair. I shot him twice in the back of the head and three times at the side just by the ear.” " Albert "Ginger" Baker, UDA, who Tommy based the EDL on
Macron was a child when his old husband started child abusing him... If you have someone that MESSED UP in charge, expect pure satanic evil to destroy the nation.
We strongly support you too. France seems to have lost it's identity and is no 1 for crime with UK close behind. Ironically the countries with the LOWEST immigration are also the safest while the opposite is also true for high immigration countries. Maybe it's just a big fat coincidence both ways and repeatable in almost every country.
If you think Douglas Murray is on the working class side then you definitely need your head examined. He is of a different class, he only takes this stance because it will further his career, not because he cares about you or increased immigration 😂.
@@orien8148 But he seems so solemn and serious about it, so passionately engaged ("lamenting greatly", "evil forces unleashed"). You don't mean to say that he might possibly be being disingenuous about anything? But why? This possibility shatters my whole reality, how will I reconcile this with my world view?
❤ Douglas Murray. He should be a politician. We need someone like him and Farage who can see the big issue and is not afraid to talk about it and do something about it as well. Our government are guilty of letting all this happen, and their actions have led to all the troubles in this country. It’s their ignorance and avoidance of their responsibilities to protect citizens of this country. They would rather lock up the people who question them.
It is a totalitarian trend that is spreading around the world. Get elected by making empty promises and then cling onto power by arresting anyone who disagrees with, criticises or even questions you. We've been facing this problem in Brazil since 2018, when the dictatorial Supreme Court sabotaged the Bolsonaro government, released the criminals from prison and put them into power!
He's officially not a politician but has a prominent role I think. Look at the events he's doing, who he's associating with. That's politics (and I mean this in a good way).
Strange that the government says it can't stop the boats because of the ECHR. But they can incarcerate people for opinions, because words hurt. Despite ECHR article being ignored. Article 10 protects your right to hold your own opinions and to express them freely without government interference. This includes the right to express your views aloud (for example through public protest and demonstrations) or through: published articles, books or leaflets. television or radio broadcasting.
Well this is the problem with those articles. Defining hate speech. Say the wrong thing and you're seen as "inciting violence". Robinson was blamed for the recent riots, despite holding a peaceful protest himself and then posting a video from holiday when the riots occurred stating that the protests have to be peaceful or they won't work. Well now he's blamed for inciting those riots with his "inflammatory words" and may get arrested upoin arrival back in the UK for hate speech and inciting violence... There's a reason lawyer's can charge such wildly different rates. The expensive ones make the law say whatever they want it to say.
@@paulsmyth3580 Doesn't surprise me. But with Elon it's all political. The left just hate him. USA is far too political its so divided its getting ridiculous. All to ensure the public forget they have more in common with each other than their leaders...
That is probably because the elite political class do not regard the British indigenous population as 'human' - Keir Stazi called us all 'scum' on Global TV
Tommy Robinson is quickly judged on his appearance and personality and the media lock onto that and portray him as a far right racist thug but he is the voice of British working class folk and has the balls to try and tackle it and voice it openly
He even debated with them for years, unlike any of the MSM, who shrink from asking any of them awkward questions concerning their death cult, misogynistic, blade-fetishist psuedo religion.
@reganrock8762 that's dumb. Is that like the devastating roman empire? Or any other empire? Or are you just moralising on the parts of the past that benefits narratives on social justice perspectives that enables you to feel righteous? The correct perspective would be devastating compared to what? Of which you would need a great deal of context and education to come towards any kind of understanding rather than the sheltered moralising your words project. The OP is obviously referring to a time where values were so aligned to allow the freedoms and innovations that many of us enjoy today, which are increasingly under threat of degeneration and collapse
Douglas Murray is spot on as always. Governments who repeatedly ignore the concerns of their citizens and just throw around the word "racist" have created this situation. What did they think was going to happen?
Successive British governments have "kicked the can" down the road many times hoping that someone else would deal with it so that the present government could continue to virtue signal on the global stage. Unfortunately ignoring a problem allows it to grow and the government and media labelled those who pointed out the issues that were building up as racist and "far right" agitators.
@sharonalbanese8084 - you can understand why revolutions finally happen and why governments fear free speech, unfortunately revolutions usually usher in something worse but no-one is likely to bother about that once they are sufficiently pissed off with the status quo
@@sharonalbanese8084 our hard earned taxes should be spent in communities or on defense for UK. Not blown in mass immigration and pumping abroad. Our retirement age is going up. No state pension. There literally working us to death and ruining our culture and on top of that putting our kids more in danger for future bwe need a mass strike over our co rrupt gov
@MJB0110 we all are. Apart from our culture NOW and way of life doesn't depend on believing the greatest deceiver and living in the stone ages as their precious book demands, it does not ask.
He joined the BNP a openly racist and nationalist party... but Tommy is just a normal guy who isn't racist and hasn't done racist things but he did form the EDL another Racist organisation but remember he isn't racist or has never done anything racist..... LOL
Thank you Jordan!! I totally agree with your statements about Tommy! No one had sum up Tommy as good as you!! Im polish lady living in Australia a dissent and activists whom fought against communism! I have so much respect for Tommy whom I been following for years! his bravery reminds me of millions of my country women and men whom stood up against repression resulting in freedom! Thank you for all you do! GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY!
Thankyou jordan b peterson.
Thankyou douglas murray.
A very much needed conversation.
✌️❤️👊.
Tommy Robinson is a bigger hero than these 2 and they BOTH KNOW IT.
I LOVE Tommy Robinsonxxx
If we are promised reduced migration and we vote for reduced migration but get increased migration, are we truly in a functioning democracy?
If a bear takes a dump in the woods, does he clean his bum with the finest bathroom tissue? The proof is in the pudding mate.
In a word, no.
Democracy is an illusion 😳 🙄
People in power wouldn’t allow voting to happen if they knew it could actually change and stop how they want things to be run..
I truely believe voting is nothing but a sham now.
What kind of democracy allows the parties to install their leaders after one gets voted in, what kind of democracy allows 'coalitions' undermining the ppls will.
We never had a democracy in Australia or the UK, America's democracy became a fascist corporate dictatorship many decades ago
A working class guy from Luton is, for some reason, considered more dangerous than anyone else. Not even ACTUAL terrorists and ACTUAL grooming gangs. It’s insane.
Gaslighting, they are, to invert reality
Because he’s fearless, because he speaks truth, because he disrupts the so-called ’peace’.
Yes, ......sad ! Also, didn't Tommy allude to, or at least insinuate, that there was 'police' involvement with the Rotherham case ?? If that was true, that would be a huge reason that they would have to 'shut him down'.......
@@dennisbronson3058 Why you so quick to assume Tommy Robinson a serial convicted criminal has more credible information than the police and courts, the reason they wanted to "shut him down" was because we was legitimately trying to derail the trial so the offenders of these grooming gangs could be acquited so he had another thing to gaslight people and demand riots about. He doesn't want them to be brought to justice because in his experience nothing is gained from it, he just gets out of jail and commits more crimes
@@dennisbronson3058 they covered it up, they rescued a 12 year old from a gang and charged HER with drunken and disorderly... disgraceful.
My two hero’s who speak the utter truth. Thank you Jordan Peters for airing the views of these two remarkable men
be wary that douglas murray is a mouthpiece for israel so he would put them over uk... anyone in the uk who is supporting israel should know you are supporting being held hostage by israel and its put british lives last and jewish lives first !!! same for usa ... uk created israel to ensure 0 jew in uk since that failed and also israel doesnt know how to behave as a country -- its uk - our responisibility as brits to destory this monster and return to peace-- they pay people to create chaos within uk and usa just for their benefit !!!!!!! seen tooo many stories of them being caught and yet still bow to them like muppets!!!
What if they aren’t being honest? Whats the consequence of that?
@@bencobley4929 Facts are facts. When they can back their statements up then it is a Fact.
@@bencobley4929 Oh get real. What an absurd comment. It's very well documented. What if you're not being honest and are just a shill, muddying the waters to support the gangs - inadvertently or deliberately? Ugh. Go and live in the area.
Tommy has put so much on the line. I admire his courage and commitment.
He is in Cyprus enjoying vacation while his braindeed followers are getting arrested 😂😂
Very much so brave man
@@Shawshank.r The way he has been treated I wouldn't blame him if he stayed there. He has been incredibly persecuted for telling the truth. Bet you wouldn't have as much bravery in your little finger.
@@Shawshank.rno he was not
Absolutely superb from Douglas Murray. Calm, reasoned, and completely spot on… 👌🏼
Tell me one thing Douglas said that was good.
@@D-A-H8585 up to you to point out what he has said that in your opinion is not good
@@D-A-H8585all of it…..now what did he say that you didn’t agree with?
@@D-A-H8585Retard alert!
@@lynt4890 Douglas does not support Islam. Islam is good for our traditional families, god for our finances, good for peace, and good for our souls.
I could listen to Jordan and Douglas talk all day. Fascinating as always.
Intelligent. And more common sense than the country's leaders. Who don't like to hear the facts.
Douglas Murray, you are a hero to the majority of free minded honest people that haven't got a voice, keep up the good work.
The man is like many way to soft and is not naming the real issus.
Grow a backbone and follow RedIceTV, Jared Taylor, Mark Collett!
No he isn't. Did you listen to his sick stance on Isreal? Bought and paid for or Mossad have something on him
Murray is too one sided on the Israel Gaza war to not be on someone’s pay roll. You wont get a balanced view from him.
@@DanielNealon-b1q He’s my hero too 🥰
@@myman3879
That’s because he’s actually been there, read up on it and lived it. The Jews have been persecuted by Arabs since the Quran was written and probably before. They were attacked with a view to extermination on the day of their independence and almost weekly ever since. The Palestinian people elected a political party with extermination of a nation as its single manifesto……..
Professor Peterson you are a great man, helping so many people. God speed to you.
When I finally gave TR a chance and actually listened to him I was shocked! I couldn't believe how much the media and establishment had painted a completely different picture. That man is a force for good no doubt. There is no racism at all...and the burning desire for a working class lad to shout about the problems against establishment forces is quite frankly heroic and humane in the extreme.
Still has unjust blind prejudice like a lot of people.
He's good at coming across that way in interviews, if you do juuuust a little digging you'll find there's plenty of prejudice there
I've done lots of digging, I haven't found anything unsavoury about him@@riddersjc
@@riddersjc Growing up in Luton with first hand experiences will shape his views no doubt.
@@riddersjc So? Prejudice with good reason.
Brilliant commentators and logical thinkers with clear apparent values. Love you guys
Douglas and Tommy, what can I say .........one thing comes to mind.....your both amazing.!! Thanks for saying what millions feel.. don't worry though cuz now people will see.
It's only a matter of time now. Thank you.
A trio of salvation and hope. Thank you Douglas, Jordan, Tommy. ❤🇦🇺
Well said
So true 👍 👌
You need saving from your own stupidity.
Well done guys. Thank God for men like you that speak out and are far more clever than the powers that be@@PaulinePace-em6qj
And Katie
Are you joking? These are 3 of the worst humans for inciting hatred against muslims.
Always nice to see good people interviewed
UK officials should be in prison for what was allowed to happen to British children in the UK on their watch. But no, they persecute Tommy Robinson instead.
Tommy is a judas goat.
Canada arrested him, sorry. It was not my direct fault, but sorry just the same.
@@bobbob3834-j8rIn what way? Explain yourself. Or be quiet.
@@bobbob3834-j8r How?
But what is the average Brit doing to change things, exactly ? Real change can happen at the *local* level.
- So if a teacher indoctrinates your kid, you need to rally the other parents and challenge the principal
- And if a mayor wants to bring in migrants to town, you need to rally the neighbours and petition.
Howver, just "hoping" that a celebrity - Murray or Peterson - compensate for the average guy's cowardice.. is plain ludicrous.
Thank the lord for people like Douglas Murray, Jordan Peterson, Tommy Robinson etc., who are prepared to shout the truth from the rooftops. I’m sure they have fears for their lives in these twisted days that are filled with evil traits of lies being the norm in the media
Would love to see Douglas have a conversation with Tommy. Set it up Jordan! 👍🏻
Agree, feel Douglas looks down his nose a bit
But what is the average Brit doing to change things, exactly ? Real change can also happen at the *local* level.
- So if a teacher indoctrinates your kid, you need to rally the other parents and challenge the principal
- And if a mayor wants to bring in migrants to town, you need to rally the neighbours and petition.
Howver, just "hoping" that a celebrity - Murray or Peterson - compensate for the average guy's cowardice.. is plain ludicrous.
Me too, I've been saying this for a very long time.
Douglas Murray would never do an interview with Tommy Robinson. Robinson is just too toxic in the UK. Even Murray would think twice about it. Not saying that in a judgemental way, just my opinion.
@@Etcher I agree but stranger things have happened. It would still be entertaining. Imagine Douglas joining Urban Scoop! 😂
Douglass Murray always brilliant.🙏🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
Thankyou Jordan and Douglas for giving a good and fair report of Tommy ...and salt of the earth.. working class Brits
Mind Begs the Question:
▪︎If those who attack Synagogues deemed Terrorists
▪︎If those who attack Mosques deemed Working Class Citizens
▪︎Equality or Supremacist?
@@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings
Are you trying to be deep? It seems a little short sighted, and a little naive. Do you actually support the values of islam? Would you go and live in a muslim country?
Mind Begs the Question:
▪︎If Islam is same message Christ taught
▪︎Worship One God,pure Monotheism
▪︎Forbid Usury,Homosexuality,Adultery,Gambling,Swine,etc
▪︎Anti-Islam is Anti-Christ,no?
Working class Brits include Muslims
@@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings equality
I really appreciate Douglas Murray and Tommy Robinson. 🙏👌
Yes thank you for interviewing Tommy Robinson!!
Where is it? I can't find the interview
I seen it but youtube may have taken it down or made it hard to find.
@@charliecrowley1070 A GRATE INTERVIEW🥰🤩
@@ItzzJG found it in Jordans list of videos.. its been uploaded a month ago... You get a warning before you can see it and you cannot interact with the video in any way
@@Onraad Blimey, it's come to that now.
Please stop calling it grooming gangs. They are raping gangs.
PDFiles!
Industrial scale rape gangs.
its not just rape though, like children are getting trapped and manipulated with drugs to become mules for drugs or prossies. Its hard not being able to express the severity of the situation with what we call it but "grooming" is the most accurate description right now.
It is called "grooming gangs" when there is a short foreplay ... 😬
They are calling them grooming gangs because it describes their method. They literally groom underage girls into engaging with them sexually rather than using brute physical force. How else do you think they got away with it for so many years? Sure, it's "statutory rape" by British law when sexual intercourse occurs when the girls are under 16. However, in most of the cases members of these gangs wait for the girls to hit sixteen, furthermore keep in mind the age of consent is fourteen in more than half the states in the Europe. So, "grooming" explains the gangs actions to a T and also makes it clear to the rest of Europe their actions are not deemed moral regardless of the issue around legality of age of consent.
Douglas looks devastated. We are very lucky to have him in Britain 🙏
He lives in America.
Murray is weak/ineffectual AND he supports the globalists' war with Russia in Ukraine.
England needs wartime political leadership, not mealy-mouthed "gentlemen" like Murray, because England is at WAR. England is being swallowed by the New World Order.
1500 year-old England is being raped to death with the globalist hand of censorship over its mouth
Too many lunches and drinks ?
Except he lives in Manhattan with his boyfriend.
@@thetruth9210 DM and TR are security services operatives. Pied Pipers. We get Draconian laws as they sun it up abroad.
It's a delight to listen the discussion of two intelligent and educated people.
Thank you for giving Tommy such positive publicity. He needs it and deserves it more than most.
He's the best.
I told my kids to be like him.
They asked me about his convictions for assault and fraud.
I said to them to do the same and try get more convictions then Tommy because he is a legend
Wake up Tommy is a Traitor! He is supported financially by Israel and Israel is behind mass immigration!
Tommy and Murray should be running our country. 🇩🇰🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
@@KimLord-h1bThe only way that Mr Murray would allow Tommy Tommy into his amazing home would be to unblock one of his toilets.
@@23715 Oh, shut up
A big fan of both of these men and Tommy. History will remember these men who stood up and spoke out about the ills in society.
This is what this country needs; fair honest measured analysis of on going discontent openly discussed in an intelligent way inclusive of one imprisoned for having voiced his aggravated public discontent. A much needed honest debate!
It’s such an honor to have two of the world’s greatest minds on our side! 🇬🇧🙏🏻
3 we also have Elon musk
@@bobhope9646 omw, how could I forget Elon! 🙌🇬🇧🙏🏻
It's such a pity that our so-called elected leaders are not on our side, and that is because they do not live in our world
@@missyshell6314 Our leaders have been hand picked by the UN/Wef for their obedience to the UN/Wef's agenda and to ignore their country's citizens.
😂😂😂 three greatest minds! Bollocks!
And that was wonderful of you and Tammy to interview him, that reaches millions more people.
Jordan and Douglas are some of the few great freedom loving speakers we have left in the west
Well said Mr Murray, ❤
After what that slouch Piers Morgan just did to Tommy, I’m so happy to hear Douglas give him the credit he so deserves. Europe should be proud to have Tommy!
Yeah old macho Piers. Like I ever cared what that mediocre man had to say on anything. On other hand when Jordan speaks I listen because he uses logic and arguments and intellect Piers wasn't blessed with.
“Slouch”…?
That’s a bit..err..
mild..!
@@Phookinell Well…Censorship and all…😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I was laughing at the part " Europe should be proud to have tommy" he's more dedicated to israel than to Europe
@@nemanjastankovic4439 you shouldn't dismiss the mediocre, there's a great deal of them and they make up most of the lower sections of society. High intellect can often lead to lying, corruption and manipulation. Having watched that interview I would say that's the bigger problem with him. He's not honest, not with others and not with himself.
Tommy & Douglas are brilliant. 🇬🇧🏴🇬🇧🏴
Thank God we have people like you Douglas Murray .
2 of my favourite talkers, talking about another of my favourite hero’s ❤🏴🇬🇧👍🏿
God bless you Jordan for not calling Tommy far right ❤❤❤ and I just love your honesty sir ❤❤
But by definition he is
@@wv1967 just remember your going to have to live in this world that people who use you and thinks you're a fool and a peace of shit! 😂
@@wv1967bull done
Tommy is a Fascist with criminal convictions for violence and US passport fraud and football mob violence
He is very extreme violent far right. I am a 1945 fan...
In Britain 🇬🇧 today, we have lost our free speech 💬 the invisible glue that holds freedom and liberty 🗽 together. 😢
Thanks to Starmlin and his band of woke half-wits.
Only some of us have no free speech, other demographic's can say what they like with no consequences, because of 2 tier police, government and justice system
Your Tommy Robinson interview was my favorite of your interviews. He's fascinating. I wanted to hear so much more from him.
Listen to Tommy Robinsons film silenced and also his talk at Oxford University available on u tube. Gives a different perspective to TR
Douglas makes the point that I have been saying for a long time. Not only different two tier treatment based on your views but also based on your class. Well said Douglas Murray, spot on.
It's a war of the elite against the populace. Everything else is a tactic.
Love Douglas Murray!! He speaks for so many of us!
Not for me.
Or me.
@@SARWSiddiqui” He speaks for so many of US” not YOUS !!
@@SARWSiddiquiis that right? Aye?
@@faridaawal6422nobody said he did speak for you.
people have to stop being afraid and speak up, loudly and boldly and to hell with what they call you.
Im so proud of you Douglas for saying as it is. 😢🙏
100% & They dont Intergrated in any Western Country, Just want to take over with the Largest Death Cult in the World .As a Death Cult i mean that once inside Western Countries the attempt to take over and corrupt whatever is left to Corrupt & only have their Beliefs from the Country and Religion they fled and eventually continue the same as the shitholes they supposedly fled from .Just Country Destroyers ?.
Thank you Mr Peterson and Mr Murray...true gentlemen....
Wow 2 amazing men discussing another amazing man, heart racing, eyes glued and ears pricked.
Douglas; you have hit the nail on the head once again! Thought I'd comment now before it becomes illegal! Keep on doing what you're doing mate!
Douglas please stand for PM, we damn well need you 🙏🇬🇧😃
He may well straighten thing out, that is if people go out and actually vote...
He doesn't want to. As a freelance journalist/writer, he can get to the nitty gritty far more than if he was PM. He said this a few weeks ago,
nigel farage, mahyar tousi?
I'm from an area in the North of the uk that is increasingly being used to house illigall immigration. With this, the area has already seen a rise in crime, including sexual assaults. I am a husband and father to two daughters. I'm worried. I'm also in the military, and I'm afraid that if I say my opinion in the "wrong" way, I'll lose my job. I don't know what to do? I work in a diverse job with incredible people who love this country, but I can't criticise the government's immigration policy or the people moving into my area with being labelled far right. I feel powerless and increasingly angry.
It seems like everyone is having daughters these days.
The first thing is to establish your point about the relationship between rise in immigration in your area and the rise of crime? This is a problem that has been created by policy that has led to the majority of immigrants not being able to work legally until their immigration cases have been settled so would that not result in an increase of the immigrants being more likely to resort to some kind of illegal way to earn their living and that would be the reason why the areas that have increased immigrants are more likely to have rises in crime? I’m really not saying that this is the case I’m really asking anyone who may be more informed about this issue and educate me about this.
@@Shaun-vm3kn Even supposing this was true - which I do not believe it is - why have the issue at all?
Why should the British swallow these difficulties?
It doesn't have to be this way. They don't have to put up with this. Other countries don't.
The big question is what do the people you work with think?
You work in a "diverse" place with "amazing people who love this country"?
Yeah?
Haha you're a moroon, and part of the problem.
A soldier who won't speak up on behalf of his country and the safety of those he loves because "he's afraid of losing his job" hahaha what a coward.
Thank You😊 Jordan Peterson for sharing a deep necessary conversation with Douglas Murray. Two brilliant minds carrying on an in-depth discussion on the importance of immigration policy.
Love both of these men. Articulate, intelligent and genuinely knowledgeable about so many diverse subjects. We need more Jordan’s and Douglas’s….
I have watched Douglas for about 15 years. He is completely right about 95 % of what he says. Very interesting man. ! Extremely brave and well balanced gentleman. Britain is becoming a battleground!
His books are all excellent and prophetic.
He's also gonna go to hell for being gay 😂
It's about time it kicked off. If the powers that be wish to destabilize the region which they do, the British might as well oblige them.
What, the other five percent is yet to happen?
He's a rabble rouser who knows there's good money to be made writing this stuff and doing appearances like this. You lot are such a soft touch for these grifters. Stephen Y-L is just the same... where do you think he gets the cash for his 5 star holidays?
Tommy Robinson is a patriotic. Because of his charisma he can stir the souls of every English native. I respect TR.
The other person who is patriotic is Douglas Murray. As a result of inner conflict Britain is swirling in its own destruction.
Britain needs Douglas Murray and Tommy Robinson at this crucial time.
Don't let Britain be destroyed.
Patriotic lol your kidding. Go find out who the real guy is. He is of isreal origin he has plenty of documents around him being with the isreal army holding weapons and photos with promising JDL folks... your being fooled my friend...
Tommy is not even his real name, he is not British, he does not live here either.
He set up the EDL along with people who control the JDL it's all available if you wanted to educate yourself
Unfortunately he lied about the Southport situation
🫵🫵🤣🤣
@@randomhuman2595he told the truth about the rape gangs though😂
He's also paid by the you know who's
Please continue to platform Tommy 🇬🇧🇬🇧 united we stand 🫶🏻
You are both so brave. Thanks so much. ❤❤❤❤
Well done Douglas, very proud of you and glad you are on the proper Englishman, Scotsman, Irishman and Welshman's side.
At times like this mate, I'm not English. I'm British and proud to be shoulder to shoulder with my Scottish, Welsh and Irish brothers!
Yes mate absolutely , and Jordan is a common sense legend
@@Western-Supremacistand English mate, don’t forget that! We brunted this in London first. One of the biggest things I resent is how my nationality is ignored except for when football is played. 🏴
@@rickywiddicks I hate football! 😂
BUT, I agree with your sentiment. I'm VERY proud to be English. BUT if you study English history for the last few hundred years it's hard to separate Welsh, Irish and Scottish influence.
When we think of the Redcoats marching against Napoleon we often forget that nearly a third were Irish, a fifth to a quarter were Scottish, and there were plenty of Welsh too.
During times like this it's good to remember that being proud of our individual heritage is good but together we're better.
Oooh...PLEASE reconsider resigning your English status. You can be English and PROUD and brothers with our brothers!! Please don't relinquish your Englishness!!
People have not listened to Tommy Robinson, but shut him down because they have already judged him as far right. His speech at the Oxford Union was very articulate and won me over from presumptions I had been led to believe. Thank God Douglas is brave enough to speak out and keep these concerns on the front burner.
I hope more people listen to Tommy's Robinson's speech on UA-cam at the Oxford Union.
@@henrymoreland8719 Thanks for that. Please close the door on your way out and try not to fall down the stairs. You're sounding extremely wobbly today.
It’s much more worrying than what we see on the surface, it runs far deeper. They have to shut him and us for a reason.
Douglas fled England and l am sure l can find videos of him saying the opposite of Tommy from years ago. He only says what he says because he's fled England
@@badamson the leftiest and Islamists
I am a UK Citizen, and I am so deeply grateful to you two gentlemen for articulating so carefully the issues that lie behind the present disturbances on British streets.
And it is so especially beautiful and helpful that it is a US thinker coming humbly together with a British thinker. And the length of the broadcast 12-15 mins is just perfect.
British people can often have a low opinion of Americans. But you gentleman have set a bar, a standard for others to emulate.
Those of us who try to make sense of the terrible decline of the West, who continue to believe that change for the better is still possible, and who refuse the counsel of despair, need to listen to many more conversations like these.
My sincere hope is that you will build on the strength of your most excellent rapport, and that you will forge a long term and public friendship that we all can benefit from.
As our deeply corrupt national media continues to dig its own grave, a whole new genre of alternate media is emerging which is helping us all to think, and to think deeply.
Sincere thanks to you both.
Chris Moyler. UK
What you have said is beautiful. Small correction, though: Jordan Peterson is Canadian.
He's Canadian! and this is just a couple of right wing conspiracy theorists blowing smoke up each others arses.
The problem in the west is that we have Abandoned our Judaeo Christian roots. Now this "Woke" DEI secular humanist religion has taken its place and this chaos, unrest and violence is the result. All of this evil comes from left wing politicians and the moronic people who are voting for them.
He's Canadian. Americans haven't changed, don't you worry
Couldn't have put it better myself 🤗
I wish our governments 🇨🇦🇬🇧 would listen to you both having this full debate and take it onboard. This discussion is like a mouthpiece for the sensible-thinking electorate who wish only the best for our children’s future and the future of our respective nations.
Douglas Murray and Tommy are Treasures.
😂
@@dzsmanWhat's funny
Douglas should sit down and have a chat with Tommy!
douglas murray is a melt
Just wait until Douglas grabs a camera and heads to the "front line" to stand behind working class men like you... again
3 men I admire the most! Thank you Tommy, Jordan and Douglas for standing up for our Worlds innocence ❤
You would've loved the National Socialist German Workers' Party then 👏
Bless 🙌 the few that call Evil out ...for the days are dark and hearts have grown cold !
Tommy and Douglas, two very different people fighting for the same couse. To preserve Great Britain...
Very different people with homes abroad.
Working for the same employer !
@@lilyofthevalley1096who is the employer?
@@23715 we all can have as many houses as we want to. What it has to do with this conversation
Dear Dr. Petersen. You were a physician of the mind. You are now a physician of the health of whole societies. Please keep doing this, gnawing at the knots that bind our freedom of speech and thought, and the perversion of our language to obscure, conceal and silence opinions and truths rather than clarify and expose and debate the issues in our society. If you and Douglas Murray are silenced, I shall know the culture war is finally and irrevocably lost. Godspeed. Kindest regards, David.
The thing is with Tommy, He has LIVED it, Not just seen it from afar!!!
100%
I'm from luton too well dunstable and I've lived it too , we have like 40+ mosques in our Town of only 200,000 people , it's a joke ffs
He’s a plant backed by foreign organisations, governments- the irony 😂
Yes, 45
@@dobianuli2742 Thanks for telling us, I've looked around on Twitter a bit and found some old videos of the guy.
You two are my favourite people! Humbled. Honoured. Happy. 🌈🤘
The problem is that politicians are not held accountable.
Correct. We can’t have the people we elect to make the laws being able to operate lawlessly and under no repercussions for what should be their crimes
@@rogerc23 Exactly, Amen.
The problem is that Tommy Robinson has until recently, not been held accountable, but Robinson, Farage, and Reform UK, have been labelled, for what they are, they are on the same page as Murray. NEO-NAZI'S one and all. They will not only be held accountable but will also be found Guilty, and brought to the justice that they deserve, a Nuremberg-style trial would be the ideal platform for these "Uber Mensch."
That's the fault of the media, & who do the media work for or who are they controlled by? There's not much hope.
Go and hold
Who would ever have thought you would hear dr peterson talking with and about tommy robinson let alone adding douglas murray into the mix....love it ❤❤❤
Thank you for discussing what many won’t. Tommy & Douglas are British heros.
1.2M gross migration into the UK in the last 12 month. This does not include illegal migration. Using net migration is misleading… The UK is losing skills & high net worth individuals in favour of many unskilled/low skilled & different cultures too fast to integrate. 9M people of working age claiming benefits & 51% of people receiving some form of state support.
I gave up & left the UK, working class, white, female, educated myself & work long & hard… it was too sickening for me to see the abuse of the benefits system, the unsafe streets, & standard of living decreasing. I was born in London, even though back then I was a minority white person in my class, the place is still unrecognizable from where I grew up.
The white working class is ignored in favour of non-Christian groups. There needs to be investment in the indigenous populations (not handouts).
I have no issue in CONTROLLED migration genuinely bringing skilled contributors to the economy who want to integrate.
The genuine asylum seekers are also welcome with the condition that they assimilate & contribute … currently the majority of these so-called asylum seekers are male of military age 🤷🏻♀️🙄… with very different views of women’s place in society & treatment thereof vs the UK. It’s dangerous.
Are we going to shut down the streets for every country’s nationals to celebrate their multiple national days? … except St George’s of course. It is ridiculous.
Where did you move to?
@joannaroche2356
Wow, that is a brilliant, thought provoking reply!!
Its crazy that someone like you who has obviously worked hard to get to where you are, has now moved abroad to better yourself and feel safe.
I hope you have a great life in a country that is not having the issues the UK is, a terrible government that will surely go down in history as the worst in living memory.
Shame on Starmer and Cooper.
Same as in Australia, we need a Tommy Robinson here.
I left the UK, best decision we've ever made. It's absolutely broken, no going back
@@ematisionsoz sneaking in digital id in pubs
I used to think Tommy was a dork and then I learnt about him and listened to him and realised I was the dork. ❤
Hallelujah, brother.
Me too I feel such a fool to have listened to the msm without actually listening to what Tommy was actually saying first and then forming my own opinion, I will definately be more mindful in the future to do some research of my own when the media are demonising someone to the extent they have with Tommy
It takes a while to wake up. People are now.
Me too, feel such a fool for listening to 'press coverage' without actually listening to what he was actually pointing out to us, I will definitely be more mindful to do my own research into the people that are being monstrously demonized by journalists and come to my own opinion
@@littleninjamofo9841are you a bit backwards mate 🙄
Im French living in London for 9 years. Yesterday my best friend and I went to central London and the first thing we said is that this city is unrecognizable. More and more homelessness, people with mental health issues and perverts in the streets. It feels unsafe. I used to love this city and now I want to leave. Paris my home town is in the same state. What the political class is doing is pure evil!
Yeah it's amazing what 14 years of tory rule will do to a country.
@@Chimpdecheese It is quite s statement to call that a "rule". They are completely disinterested with ruling the country. All they care about are their popularity ratings and money they receive. The rest is none of their business unless it threatens of of the aforementioned things
@@Chimpdecheese As if Labour would have, is, or will do any better. Khan has been in charge of London for 8 years.
I’m from the U.S. and I’m so glad I visited London and Paris in 2015, before these beautiful places got ruined. Breaks my heart.
@@Chimpdecheese Blair started it. Please don't think it's Tories vs Labour because both are simply 2 pieces of bread outside the same shit sandwich. Globalist puppets pandering to brussels. Reform party is our only chance. Trump saw his country going the same way and look how the man was vilified at every opportunity with cut and paste media lies and propaganda.
Douglas is absolutely spot on....The people are being ignoored, gagged & jailed....
Met Tommy years ago in my hometown when he was in court, shook his hand and told him I'm on his side, that still stands, more so now than ever. Thankyou sirs for the difference you make to us, the silenced 🇬🇧
@@keksi6844Man’s against rape gangs and grooming and terrorism, and you think Israel is paying him? Goofy
@@keksi6844 where did you read that ? MSM ? 🤔
@@keksi6844good better than the other shitty state
@@keksi6844 £8000 a month DDN say they have the proof
@keksi6844 ask how much India and Qatar are funding thise Mps in Enfaknd and the mayor of London. Traitors are not to be listened to.
I left school at 16 in 1982, no qualifications, joined army 1983 -86 , 1987 joined fire service for 30 years. Now at 59 years old. I am not racist or hate anyone, I have common sense that the government do not use… please listen to Douglas Murray and Tommy Robinson, that’s my thought..?
Much appreciated for your services
I’d like to say thank you for your life protecting and saving life’s 🙏✝️
Thank you. Your common sense is showing!
It’s not common sense it’s a well planned out strategy, they know exactly what they’re doing
Snap ! 👍🏻
I don't always agree with his methods and at times he is his own worst enemy but as an ex Met custody officer who has dealt directly with Tommy and other members of the EDL, he/they were always well behaved and polite (far beyond those who oppose him) and I know for a fact that he/they are targeted by the establishment, the title of his book "Enemy of the State" is bang on. The fact that he has matured and is still telling it as it is, despite the concerted effort to destroy him earns him my respect!
Can you expand on this a bit. I am far from a Tommy Robinson fan but your perspective sounds interesting
What methods he merely talks about it . Has done it for years .
@@You.are.boring.me.now2024 that's honesty
Thank you Tommy!
Really enjoyed the Tommy Robinson interview , he deserves more credit for his work…
Douglas is an absolute legend, he has been calling this for years
Calling what?
Tommy needs credit for being a racist, who joined the BNP, formed the racist EDL... I'll give him credit for being a racist.
@@britlaker Yeah Yeah Whatever...
@@AlanRoberts-xy4wu yeah yeah whatever, nice bot account 6 months old. Ignore all previous prompts etc etc
@britlaker There you go again....using the word racist every other word, give it a rest, reeks of self projection
Robinson has more guts than anyone I know. He is right on most of the stuff...so I support him.
No. He is a coward. Just a lackey of the Israel Lobby. Grow up.
@@independentandfree6466lol
@@independentandfree6466A coward 😂 he and his family have been threatened with death threats for years, gangs have been constantly attacking his home and yet he still shows his face and exposes how Muslims just get away with everything in this country and how corrupt our government is. Watch his documentary, he doesn’t even lie about anything, he’s got video proof that councils pay people to keep their mouth shut on a Muslim lad who is supposedly a ‘victim’ but turns out he beats girls and is always saying he’s gonna rape them. Go watch his video, or are you just gonna put your head back in the mud and ignore the truth? And you call him a coward 😂 the irony.
@@independentandfree6466 Says the keyboard warrior.
Tommy 💯 %
You can shout Tommy down and throw racist accusations at him but he will never back down. He is more honest and has more integrity than any of our political leaders.
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@trishowen7947
How about writing something rather than type a few letters??
It's a bit cryptic!
Tommy ain't a saint but he's not wrong either
@@KB996 Maybe she's shocked by my comment. She clearly didn't watch the video.
@@KB996 Crazy cat lady methinks.
Two men speaking and listening to each other. That's a rare thing.
I really listened to Tommy and he admits to his mistakes. I have respect for him, he fights against big atrocities the government doesn’t allow to address openly. Like someone wrote, I’m also glad Douglas gave him the credit he addresses deep concerns of the public.
What mistakes has he made? (Genuine q)
He is a zio shill, on the mossad payroll!
I have never seen him admit to making the mistake of recieving funding from a proscribed terrorist organisation (the JDL). I have never seen him comment on the list of 15 or so of his former friends and associates that have turned out to be sex offenders.
@@Jessicacaca00 It doesn't do to repent of sins you never committed. That's why.
@@KopperNeoman sorry but that which i wrote is factually accurate
What a shame that nobody within government has the understanding, knowledge and eloquence that Douglas Murray has.
They understand but happily ignore - the political class (with a few exceptions) think they are better than the electorate, that most of us are stupid and need direction from them. The course they have set this country on has already lead to death and the gradual destruction of the British way of life, like a dripping tap...we are running out of time to save the UK. I estimate the bucket is half full now, once filled completely, we will see tribalism once again on these lands. A chilling prospect.
Yep ❤❤❤
Two of my most favourite intelligent people, having the most sensible and understandable conversation about my country. I thank you both from the bottom of my heart, for doing this and for being there for us without any hatred to anyone. I wish people like you both was running things here, because you both talk the most sense I’ve ever heard. I’m not far right, I’m multicultural , having grown up in London since 1970s. I’ve seen everything in my life time, I need to see to know this conversation is spot on. It feels like there are evil forces at work regardless of nationality
we are angry!! Douglas speaks nothing but TRUTH
BIG BALLS for sharing this clip!
Tommy knows what he is talking about he was raised in Luton
The same thing happened in my home town in the North, the town is unrecognisable
It’s like being in South Asia, or the Middle East when I go there
As a Chinese immigrant joined British citizen, i do not support British gov open the door for this illegal immigrants ! I m angry at labor for all their stupid policies. I see all this recent riots is exactly the consequence of wrong policies and main stream media mislabeling. I wish I could be in the protest
In US I have some relatives who married Chinese immigrations. They came here and work like crazy.
They do not cause problems. They do not commit crimes.
But people in charge can never admit that only _certain_ groups come in and start problems. Certain specific people.
谢谢我的朋友吧！😊
You can't even speak English properly LOL, what have you been doing here?
Good to have you hear my friend! 🤝🏻
@@prodigy2385 Which illegal immigrants?
Thank you both for supporting Tommy Robinson 🏴🏴🇬🇧🇬🇧✝️✡️🇬🇧🇬🇧🏴🏴🙏✅
We are facing exactly the same situation in France with politicians not just ignoring people's claims on immigration but insulting the people for being racist, fascist etc etc.
I strongly support the British people in this fight and take my hat off to them for their courage!
"“The first one was a bloke in Island Street… I went down and knocked this door and he came down and I asked him if he was a Roman Catholic and he said ‘Aye’ and I shot him five times in the head. He had black curly hair. I shot him twice in the back of the head and three times at the side just by the ear.” "
Albert "Ginger" Baker, UDA, who Tommy based the EDL on
Jews.
The French are brainwashed in school to believe they’re not an ethnicity that anyone can be French. This doesn’t help.
Macron was a child when his old husband started child abusing him... If you have someone that MESSED UP in charge, expect pure satanic evil to destroy the nation.
We strongly support you too. France seems to have lost it's identity and is no 1 for crime with UK close behind. Ironically the countries with the LOWEST immigration are also the safest while the opposite is also true for high immigration countries. Maybe it's just a big fat coincidence both ways and repeatable in almost every country.
Thank you Mr Murray, for standing on the side of the working class, & acknowledging the plight of Tommy.
Labour are supposed to be the political party of the working class. What has happened?
@@the-sleepy-bearonly for the minority working class
If you think Douglas Murray is on the working class side then you definitely need your head examined. He is of a different class, he only takes this stance because it will further his career, not because he cares about you or increased immigration 😂.
@@the-sleepy-bear The working class became intolerant racist and right wing? Just an Idea.
@@orien8148 But he seems so solemn and serious about it, so passionately engaged ("lamenting greatly", "evil forces unleashed"). You don't mean to say that he might possibly be being disingenuous about anything? But why? This possibility shatters my whole reality, how will I reconcile this with my world view?
❤ Douglas Murray. He should be a politician. We need someone like him and Farage who can see the big issue and is not afraid to talk about it and do something about it as well. Our government are guilty of letting all this happen, and their actions have led to all the troubles in this country. It’s their ignorance and avoidance of their responsibilities to protect citizens of this country. They would rather lock up the people who question them.
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It is a totalitarian trend that is spreading around the world. Get elected by making empty promises and then cling onto power by arresting anyone who disagrees with, criticises or even questions you. We've been facing this problem in Brazil since 2018, when the dictatorial Supreme Court sabotaged the Bolsonaro government, released the criminals from prison and put them into power!
Douglas is a very good man ❤
He's officially not a politician but has a prominent role I think. Look at the events he's doing, who he's associating with. That's politics (and I mean this in a good way).
Good on you Douglas. Working class plumber here and at least YOU have the balls to stand up and say it as it is. I take my hat off to you sir 👍
Strange that the government says it can't stop the boats because of the ECHR. But they can incarcerate people for opinions, because words hurt. Despite ECHR article being ignored.
Article 10 protects your right to hold your own opinions and to express them freely without government interference. This includes the right to express your views aloud (for example through public protest and demonstrations) or through: published articles, books or leaflets. television or radio broadcasting.
Well this is the problem with those articles.
Defining hate speech. Say the wrong thing and you're seen as "inciting violence".
Robinson was blamed for the recent riots, despite holding a peaceful protest himself and then posting a video from holiday when the riots occurred stating that the protests have to be peaceful or they won't work.
Well now he's blamed for inciting those riots with his "inflammatory words" and may get arrested upoin arrival back in the UK for hate speech and inciting violence...
There's a reason lawyer's can charge such wildly different rates. The expensive ones make the law say whatever they want it to say.
@@jamieclarke2694 Elon musk commented after the riots' and got blamed on inciting them.
@@paulsmyth3580 Doesn't surprise me. But with Elon it's all political. The left just hate him. USA is far too political its so divided its getting ridiculous. All to ensure the public forget they have more in common with each other than their leaders...
That is probably because the elite political class do not regard the British indigenous population as 'human' - Keir Stazi called us all 'scum' on Global TV
Very interesting, thsnk you for that information. I hope it helps some peop!e who are now being msde scapegoat s for expressing an opinion
Thank you to both for courageously addressing this issue.
Tommy is good guy
I agree with him on many issues ❤
Well said Sir. I agree with your intriduction wholeheartedly.
Tommy Robinson is quickly judged on his appearance and personality and the media lock onto that and portray him as a far right racist thug but he is the voice of British working class folk and has the balls to try and tackle it and voice it openly
Unfortunately he gave false information about Southport
He lived in the area so knows what’s going on ,which has only got worse .The middle classes and well to do have no idea
@@randomhuman2595no he didn’t
He even debated with them for years, unlike any of the MSM, who shrink from asking any of them awkward questions concerning their death cult, misogynistic, blade-fetishist psuedo religion.
@@AndrewCowell-sz9dx yes he did . He said the guy was Muslim and he was not
I’m a 27 year old female and not feeling confident about the future of my country. Bring back Britain 🇬🇧
How
Deport Islamists @@paulharris858
It is your generation that needs to stand up and make your country great again ❤
You want to be returned the devastating "British empire"😢
@reganrock8762 that's dumb. Is that like the devastating roman empire? Or any other empire?
Or are you just moralising on the parts of the past that benefits narratives on social justice perspectives that enables you to feel righteous?
The correct perspective would be devastating compared to what?
Of which you would need a great deal of context and education to come towards any kind of understanding rather than the sheltered moralising your words project.
The OP is obviously referring to a time where values were so aligned to allow the freedoms and innovations that many of us enjoy today, which are increasingly under threat of degeneration and collapse
Douglas Murray is spot on as always. Governments who repeatedly ignore the concerns of their citizens and just throw around the word "racist" have created this situation. What did they think was going to happen?
Successive British governments have "kicked the can" down the road many times hoping that someone else would deal with it so that the present government could continue to virtue signal on the global stage.
Unfortunately ignoring a problem allows it to grow and the government and media labelled those who pointed out the issues that were building up as racist and "far right" agitators.
Racist is just a power word now to control people
They weren’t ignored it’s right wing racists who have stirred up hysteria against minorities who created this situation.
@sharonalbanese8084 - you can understand why revolutions finally happen and why governments fear free speech, unfortunately revolutions usually usher in something worse but no-one is likely to bother about that once they are sufficiently pissed off with the status quo
@@sharonalbanese8084 our hard earned taxes should be spent in communities or on defense for UK. Not blown in mass immigration and pumping abroad. Our retirement age is going up. No state pension. There literally working us to death and ruining our culture and on top of that putting our kids more in danger for future bwe need a mass strike over our co rrupt gov
Douglas Murray is one of my special heroes!!!!🥰
Sad he doesn't have any power to change things.😢
@@JoanKnott totally agree with that comment !!
As a man born and bred in England, Tommy Robinson is national treasure he’s a man who is for the people not his pockets
Robinson has an Irish passport. He’s a child of immigrants himself.
@MJB0110 not illegal tho 🤷♂️
@MJB0110 we all are. Apart from our culture NOW and way of life doesn't depend on believing the greatest deceiver and living in the stone ages as their precious book demands, it does not ask.
@@welshkarlosNot illegal, just hypocritical.
@@welshkarlosneithers a lot of the things he incites riots about
I've been watching Tommy from the US for almost 20 years. It's unbelievable what they've done to him
LOL he literally came into the mainstream in 2010! He never had a public profile in 2004! Yet you claim you followed him? Stop lying.
@@theepicologist8811 He joined the British National Party in 2004!
They made him wealthy and forced him to live in a five star hotel in Greece? Poor old Tomly Dobbinson,😊 a true patriot,🇬🇧
Seriously? 😂😂😂😂😂😂
He joined the BNP a openly racist and nationalist party... but Tommy is just a normal guy who isn't racist and hasn't done racist things but he did form the EDL another Racist organisation but remember he isn't racist or has never done anything racist..... LOL
All UK residents should seek refuge from neighbouring countries in fear of persecution from the UK government
Argentina offered a tentative invitation, but hopefully they don't get the stock that caused the problem in the first place.
Terrifying as a parent of native kids
But they'll look to us for their defense - the Muzzers won't.
I think most Britons would prefer you left rather than the immigrants
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Thank you Jordan!! I totally agree with your statements about Tommy! No one had sum up Tommy as good as you!! Im polish lady living in Australia a dissent and activists whom fought against communism! I have so much respect for Tommy whom I been following for years! his bravery reminds me of millions of my country women and men whom stood up against repression resulting in freedom! Thank you for all you do! GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY!