His forehand must be one of the most violently struck balls in the game. When he takes it on the rise, it is legit frightening. If he could take it earlier on hard courts more consistently, and then follow it to the net, he’d threaten Novak, Fed and Rafa all the time. And that backhand is a thing of beauty. Love watching this guy play.
It has been proven by measurements that Dominic Thiem hits the heaviest forehand (pace + spin) of all time. It's a monster the swing he takes at the ball. Federer lost because he was troubled by the spin and depth - it's a ball heavier than Nadal's.
@@sidhanthmishra8488 But he does get tired. Then he can't swing like this. And then he's at the mercy of an opponent with easier power. That's how he lost to Djokovic.
@@srinitaaigaura Thats true especially on clay so for him to replicate soderlings feat at the French would be especially tough for point after point, but the us open quarters demonstrated his staying power since he played brilliantly upto the 5 all point in the tiebreaker. On clay, it's tougher against peak Nadal or Djokovic but he has the game to do it.
I'm always amazed that Thiem can consistently swing this big for an entire match. If that swing slows down even a little bit that ball will sail 10 feet out. It takes a super athlete to be able to swing like that for over 2 hours day after day.
He was still swinging like this after more than 4 hours against Nadal at the USO and I was wondering what kind of one hander can put up with that kind of marathon hitting. But then that might explain why his next tournament after a win is usually underwhelming, and why the next one after that is better.
but the problem is that he CAN'T. he always has a let down at some point during the match when he's playing tougher opponents, especially deeper into tournaments. His body really can't take it. luckily, this means running out of energy and not injuries.
Thiem's backhand is absolutely immense - sheer rip. He needs to swing as hard as humanly possible on his forehand to get the spin and pace he needs, but when he does, it's the heaviest forehand anyone's ever hit, heavier than Jack Sock. His backhand is ultra durable, that's for sure. That depth and power and spin can trouble anyone. I think in the future he'll be able to trouble even Djokovic. Thiem is a very strong guy under that shirt. If you've seen him take it off. He's ripped.
@James Gunn Yes, he bested Djoker. But what I failed to realize is just how easily Rafa generates such sick power on the French clay. Thiem was hitting harder at times (where he won the point), but Rafa was just so consistently the bigger hitter overall, especially on the unorthodox out of position shots. The only time someone other than Rafa hit harder is when Stan had that out of body mad hammer of Thor killer hitting in 2015, which he hasn't been able to do again.
Thiem would be interesting again. But i would also like to see Rublev or Fognini. Or someone who hits very clean (two handed backhand). (not interested in tsitsipas, zverev, federer, nadal). And i have to thank you, because this is the best practise video on youtube, because of the quality and the camera position.
@@rahultarkar5164 Bad habit. Massu's technique is far from being flawless. It was his mental strength not his technique what allowed Massu to win 2 gold medals and enter the top 10.
@@rahultarkar5164 massu strong mentality but not to much technique, fernando gonzalez strong technique ( and strong right hand btw ) but not to much strong mentality
@@sbsbj192 I think that any player who has been a VERY well deserving top 5 player at whatever point of his career must be someone who achieved at LEAST the same level of mentality Massu had when he reached the top 10. At one point, Gonzalez was better in every aspect than Massu, specially during the 2007 AO.
good catch. he really does. if I were him, I would turn that into a fake-slice to topspin BH. especially if you can do that fake *and* hit the topspin BH hard? Useful!
as I keep watching, it *really* stands out how much he does that. Surprising that no coach has tried to break him of that. Maybe he won't listen. Anyways, that makes me think of Tsitsipas - how, as one of the commentators at the Aus Open said, he has so much variety on his forehand. Variety in technique leads to difficulty in reading his type of shot, and leads to overall confusion and perhaps frustration. That could really be an asset to a tennis player. He was able to beat everyone but Nadal there. Nadal whose impetus is to destroy the ball on the forehand as many times as absolutely possible. Pretty simple strategy. Reading nuances of the opponent's technique be damned; just look for the forehand and pound the *$&# out of it.
@@gremsa sure against amateurs, but when you are competing against the best players in the world you need the stroke that fed has where you have no idea if he'll drop shot, slice or roll over it
@@DeeeFoo You guys have no arguments. Watch this vídeo, how many times Roger Federer misses the ball: ua-cam.com/video/Pa-c4rlHuUo/v-deo.html Maybe because his shot is very powerful. Dominic puts a lot of spin at his ball, he has a very safe game, but not very powerful.
I would put the over-under for "majors won" by Thiem at 5. Like someone said below: "serial underachiever." … yet, that USO 2018 against Nadal *should* give him a lot of confidence. He must not forget. They say that tennis players must have a bad short-term memory - during matches - but I think it's key to have a good memory overall - selectively. How one does that (in life in general, not just tennis)? That is the trick. Federer is a master at it. That's why he enjoys tennis - everything about the tour, not just the matches - so much, I believe. I think it has something to do with enjoyment of the experience, which comes down to attitude, in a lot of ways. Bad attitude leads to bad experience, leads to unenjoyment and bad memories. Enjoyment leads to good memories (and maybe improved memory, overall) of the experience (i.e., the match), therefore, you take more positives - more insight - out of each match, on the whole. I think this is how Federer retains extraordinary and invaluable insight and wisdom from his matches. That's just my off-the-cuff sense of it, though.
Great insight brotha, I wish more UA-cam comments are of this quality. I agree with you with nearly everything, but that doesn't even matter, it's the honesty and heart put into your words, good stuff, I hope you kill it on and off the court!!
He certainly could win on hard courts or clay. Probably needs to get better on grass to have a chance at Wimbledon. Winning at least one major would seem like an absolute lock for him. Hopefully guys like Djokovic, Nadal and Federer will eventually slow down. Those big 3 always seem to raise their games for the majors.
@@rushrush1209 he beat Federer on grass once. So he can play on grass and has the weapons and the talent to do major damage at Wimbledon since he has excellent hand eye coordination and can return with a short backswing if required. His take back on groundies is the issue on grass. But if the grass plays slow with a higher bounce he can succeed.
Because massu is from latín América AND here people hit whit spin and Thiem Is from Austria, where people hits flat because the surface of courts Is different
Massu doing his training job... nothing more. review his vast career, as an amateur he has absolutely nothing bro, he is a tennis genius, whatever they say
Pleasure to watch Thiem 2017-2020! Amazing ball striking skills
His forehand must be one of the most violently struck balls in the game. When he takes it on the rise, it is legit frightening. If he could take it earlier on hard courts more consistently, and then follow it to the net, he’d threaten Novak, Fed and Rafa all the time. And that backhand is a thing of beauty. Love watching this guy play.
It has been proven by measurements that Dominic Thiem hits the heaviest forehand (pace + spin) of all time. It's a monster the swing he takes at the ball. Federer lost because he was troubled by the spin and depth - it's a ball heavier than Nadal's.
Look no further than the US open quarters between him and Nadal.
Set 1 was unreal. Nadal was helpless. That's how good he was.
@@sidhanthmishra8488 But he does get tired. Then he can't swing like this. And then he's at the mercy of an opponent with easier power. That's how he lost to Djokovic.
@@srinitaaigaura Thats true especially on clay so for him to replicate soderlings feat at the French would be especially tough for point after point, but the us open quarters demonstrated his staying power since he played brilliantly upto the 5 all point in the tiebreaker. On clay, it's tougher against peak Nadal or Djokovic but he has the game to do it.
@@srinitaaigaura sock forehand was the heaviest
What today has taught me is that I am willing and able to watch Dominic Thiem hit tennis balls for an inordinate amount of time.
2020 US Open Champion! 🏆
Also impressive that Massu is able to handle up with that level of pace!
I'm always amazed that Thiem can consistently swing this big for an entire match. If that swing slows down even a little bit that ball will sail 10 feet out. It takes a super athlete to be able to swing like that for over 2 hours day after day.
He was still swinging like this after more than 4 hours against Nadal at the USO and I was wondering what kind of one hander can put up with that kind of marathon hitting. But then that might explain why his next tournament after a win is usually underwhelming, and why the next one after that is better.
but the problem is that he CAN'T. he always has a let down at some point during the match when he's playing tougher opponents, especially deeper into tournaments. His body really can't take it. luckily, this means running out of energy and not injuries.
he's strokes are just so graceful and very satisfying to watch..
His sparring its a gold medal winner. Nice !!! Vamos Chile !!
He is his coach btw
Thiem's backhand is absolutely immense - sheer rip. He needs to swing as hard as humanly possible on his forehand to get the spin and pace he needs, but when he does, it's the heaviest forehand anyone's ever hit, heavier than Jack Sock. His backhand is ultra durable, that's for sure. That depth and power and spin can trouble anyone. I think in the future he'll be able to trouble even Djokovic.
Thiem is a very strong guy under that shirt. If you've seen him take it off. He's ripped.
@James Gunn Yes, he bested Djoker. But what I failed to realize is just how easily Rafa generates such sick power on the French clay. Thiem was hitting harder at times (where he won the point), but Rafa was just so consistently the bigger hitter overall, especially on the unorthodox out of position shots. The only time someone other than Rafa hit harder is when Stan had that out of body mad hammer of Thor killer hitting in 2015, which he hasn't been able to do again.
Indian Wells 2020 isn't that far away - let me know what players you would like to see video of
tsitsipas please :)
Thiem would be interesting again. But i would also like to see Rublev or Fognini. Or someone who hits very clean (two handed backhand). (not interested in tsitsipas, zverev, federer, nadal). And i have to thank you, because this is the best practise video on youtube, because of the quality and the camera position.
Tommy haas
Djokovic and Wawrinka.. thanks for asking
Looong videos of Rublev, Swiatek and Yastremska! :)
The consistency is amazing.
Massu still rockin that ponytail
That backdrop is stunning, imagine playing tennis with those surrounding
Thiem's backhand down the line is only 2nd to Stan the man!
Dont think so
Look up Richard Gasquet breh
@@tennis1690 everyone knows gasquet & yeah....valid point dude!
@@tennis1690 don't hate on Thiem though....he got bigger balls than gasquet (serial under achiever)
I think Thiem has the best overall one-hander in the world
His feet, legs look so light when he moves. Amazing footwork. Just like Fed had.
10:09 OOOHH MAMASITA 🔥🔥🔥🎾
💥😮😲
That's is the best tennis shot .make you win any match
Awesome video. Thank you for sharing! Ground stroke perfection :)
that scenery is beautiful
Fantastic footage, thanks
Thiem has really beautiful backhand
Great tennis and lovely back drop as well !
For those who does not know massu. 9 of the world And double gold medal olympic game 🥇🏅🎾
Massu is holding the racket from the middle of the handle(i mean closer to the middle). Is it for more control or out of habit?
@@rahultarkar5164 Bad habit. Massu's technique is far from being flawless. It was his mental strength not his technique what allowed Massu to win 2 gold medals and enter the top 10.
@@rahultarkar5164 massu strong mentality but not to much technique, fernando gonzalez strong technique ( and strong right hand btw ) but not to much strong mentality
@@sbsbj192 I think that any player who has been a VERY well deserving top 5 player at whatever point of his career must be someone who achieved at LEAST the same level of mentality Massu had when he reached the top 10. At one point, Gonzalez was better in every aspect than Massu, specially during the 2007 AO.
Next Gen forehand. Very nice
@Alexander Balog chill man!
wow that nature behind
Amazing slice
@@rafliirzaqie7761 Bro Whats wrong with you
@@rafliirzaqie7761 im sry for you
@@rafliirzaqie7761 what a sad idiot you are
@@trancebeliever im not even talk to you pathetic
The title is a bit redundant no? I thought 'Massive hitting' is the guy's middle name
What does mean guy's middle name?
@@marisabianconi1363 Google translate middle name... Maybe you have one as well
it is his middle name. and that's his full name: Dominic Thiem (4k 60fps) Massive Hitting Practice Indian Wells 2019 :-)
@@marisabianconi1363 His full name is Dominigga "Massive Hitting Thieminator" Thiem
einer der schönsten Tennisplätze+Umgebungen
Watching Thiem here makes me think he's a machine. I guess this stuff clearly shows why he is the champ at Indian Wells.
all one-handed BH indian wells final! Aesthetically appealing
Que calidad mantiene Massu ni se mueve y le pega muy bien
que le afloje a los alfajores jajajaj
this view is amazing
A problem with Thiem's slice backhand is that he completely signals that he's going to hit a slice.
purplefishies that is actually a very good point I never noticed that but yes he has a totally different take back
good catch. he really does. if I were him, I would turn that into a fake-slice to topspin BH. especially if you can do that fake *and* hit the topspin BH hard? Useful!
as I keep watching, it *really* stands out how much he does that. Surprising that no coach has tried to break him of that. Maybe he won't listen. Anyways, that makes me think of Tsitsipas - how, as one of the commentators at the Aus Open said, he has so much variety on his forehand. Variety in technique leads to difficulty in reading his type of shot, and leads to overall confusion and perhaps frustration. That could really be an asset to a tennis player. He was able to beat everyone but Nadal there. Nadal whose impetus is to destroy the ball on the forehand as many times as absolutely possible. Pretty simple strategy. Reading nuances of the opponent's technique be damned; just look for the forehand and pound the *$&# out of it.
purplefishies that is no problem
@@gremsa sure against amateurs, but when you are competing against the best players in the world you need the stroke that fed has where you have no idea if he'll drop shot, slice or roll over it
i appreciate your picture quality
Thiem y ,Nico
Futuros Numero,1
He almost never misses the ball
he is not you
Well, they're pros. It'd be weird if they did miss.
@@DeeeFoo You guys have no arguments.
Watch this vídeo, how many times Roger Federer misses the ball:
ua-cam.com/video/Pa-c4rlHuUo/v-deo.html
Maybe because his shot is very powerful. Dominic puts a lot of spin at his ball, he has a very safe game, but not very powerful.
@@RafaelSantos-jy6lg what are you talking about???
Thiem is one the most hard hitting in tennis nowadays.
@@RafaelSantos-jy6lg your observations need the fundaments of knowledge in order to be valid
The "Vampire" Massu still has the touch but less movements than a marble statue.
Thiem "war der ball gut?" Massu "on the line" massu understands german too 😀
Was*
Grande Massu!
I would put the over-under for "majors won" by Thiem at 5. Like someone said below: "serial underachiever." … yet, that USO 2018 against Nadal *should* give him a lot of confidence. He must not forget.
They say that tennis players must have a bad short-term memory - during matches - but I think it's key to have a good memory overall - selectively. How one does that (in life in general, not just tennis)? That is the trick. Federer is a master at it. That's why he enjoys tennis - everything about the tour, not just the matches - so much, I believe. I think it has something to do with enjoyment of the experience, which comes down to attitude, in a lot of ways. Bad attitude leads to bad experience, leads to unenjoyment and bad memories. Enjoyment leads to good memories (and maybe improved memory, overall) of the experience (i.e., the match), therefore, you take more positives - more insight - out of each match, on the whole. I think this is how Federer retains extraordinary and invaluable insight and wisdom from his matches.
That's just my off-the-cuff sense of it, though.
Great insight brotha, I wish more UA-cam comments are of this quality. I agree with you with nearly everything, but that doesn't even matter, it's the honesty and heart put into your words, good stuff, I hope you kill it on and off the court!!
He certainly could win on hard courts or clay. Probably needs to get better on grass to have a chance at Wimbledon. Winning at least one major would seem like an absolute lock for him. Hopefully guys like Djokovic, Nadal and Federer will eventually slow down. Those big 3 always seem to raise their games for the majors.
@@rushrush1209 he beat Federer on grass once. So he can play on grass and has the weapons and the talent to do major damage at Wimbledon since he has excellent hand eye coordination and can return with a short backswing if required. His take back on groundies is the issue on grass. But if the grass plays slow with a higher bounce he can succeed.
Beautiful stroke
Austria, a parte de esquiadores tuvo a grandes tenistas skoff , muster y ahora thiem
Congrats Thiem!!
Wow it shows how important it is to split step in tennis
error. Nicolas massu (4k 60fps)....
What the hell is Massu's grip! His hands are so high on the grip haha
he generates so much topspin and power at the same time
Nice practice 🎾💪
Everyone seems to think that if your forehand is supposed to look like federers lmao. Everyone has a different technique and if it works it works
Does anyone know what forehand grip Dominic Thiem uses?
It looks like a semi-western or full western.
Full-western for sure, his right index knuckle is on the highest bevel (cannot remember the term)
it is semi western
Because of his backswing his grip looks like full western but its actually a semi western
Semi-western. Pause at :22 the index knuckle is on the 4th bevel.
Feel sorry for those tennis balls. What a monster.
Nico still great touch
What do you use to record? Love your videos btw!
For my 2018 and 2019 videos, just an iPhone X
What a long first rally
I think his backhand got noticeably better since last year
Congrations!! Thiem!!
Does this practice actually help professional players or is it just for the fans?
They do that to warm up before the game.
Maintains their timing, especially after they’ve had to travel. Even losing a day can weaken these guys reflexes and consistency
Thiem va a terminar aprendiendo español también xd
Thanks for the 4k/60fps, next time sort out the audio
Indian Welles?
Yes, Indian Wells 2019
What grip is thiem using on forehand ?
Robert Leblanc semi-western
when he get ahold of one, damn thats a big ball
How's the backdrop to these outdoor courts... Nuts!
Hard not to be tanned playing tennis.
Federer + Nadal = Thiem
Nice rally
Nico no cambia nada en su juego, sigue pasando pelotas 😂
Seems odd to me he's actually hitting flatter than his coach on both sides. Did not have the high arc like when he plays a competitive match.
Because massu is from latín América AND here people hit whit spin and Thiem Is from Austria, where people hits flat because the surface of courts Is different
@@santiaveiro2010 People in Austria play on clay.
For anyone know what Thiem's racquet specs are?
does anyone know what kind of strings he uses?
Pグロス thanks! What about Rafa? Tension?
Pグロス I believe it's 17 gauge in the RPM blast which is rare for a top pro! He does use a 18/20 string pattern .
55lbs Vs team gut main/rpm blast cross
He improved by a lot when shifting from rpm blast all round to this hybrid.
what is thiem's string？
Those Palm trees weren't there last year! Looks good though.
Ich komm aus der Zukunft thiem wird sein ersten Grandslam bei den french Open holen
Massive hitting like relax hitting?
Dom is great but why does his form look so stiff, its like dude has no flex in his arms
Well it works for him and that’s all that counts
tennis is a game of stiffness and tension, thats how you hit the ball
A lot of the flex was coming from his wrist which is why he got the career-ending injury.
He has got to start improving his net game so he can set up his points to move into the net.
Massu looks like he gained some weight. But that might be an optical illusion comparing him to thiem who is so skinny
obviously
Massú gained some weight. It's not an optical illusion.
Thiem’s forehand finish in practice is so exaggerated
Trucks and Tennis ROCK but it’s one of the best forehands in the game so🤷♂️
@Albert Morty it's one of the most powerful, second to rafa.
Albert Morty so a player can only be successful if they win a slam, got it, get tf out of here
Albert Morty okay. Fair enough
@Albert Morty Gonzales had one of the best forehands and he didn't won a slam either
Thiem has much better drive than backhand.
Funny how Massu talk to him in spanish sometimes
SI ES VERDAD , ES CURIOSO
@@aristo663 Que dijo? No se inglés
aguante massuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
Massu is not shabby either
where are they playing ? in a fucking screensaver?
Indian Wells
Thiem crushes the ball
Thiem: makes tennis looks hard. Federer: makes tennis look easy
Massu doing his training job... nothing more. review his vast career, as an amateur he has absolutely nothing bro, he is a tennis genius, whatever they say
nice, but the opponent's backhand is really funky.
Kazzzzzo the opponent won an Olympic gold medal I think his backhand is fine...
@@ladderhero6266 Lucky for him he won an Olimpic medal not even using split step. ;)
Thiem makes tennis look so hard
i.o.w. he makes it look the way it is
3:38
Waaaaeeeeeennnnnn waaa eeeeeeeeeeeenn thiems classic groan
Very nice 4k lol
Hi
why is this 'massive hitting'??
Probably not as massive as your hitting
Jasper Mj. Because when you're standing right were the guys filming ........it looks and sounds massive!
yeah you definetly seem like a guy that hits great .
Compare this to Roger Federer practicing where he is barely putting out a sweat bead.
Weird way to finish those forehands
yep I mean i mean it s just such a useless stroke right?
Seems easy
not easy for you
not easy
@@jpselle I guess is hard too see the irony
I wanna see an albino professional tennis player.
hot
dislikes are salty fed fans
Massu seems to have the technique and movement of an amateur player compared to Thiem. Has tennis evolved or what
It will be because the coach Massu is in coach mode, check his vast career, as an amateur he has absolutely nothing bro, he is a tennis genius
It's strange. He does not seem fluid at all. Looks so stiff, yet he is not.
Yeah I agree, the way he holds his racket is so weird too, my wrist just hurts from looking at it lol
is that what your wife said?
You mean thiem or the other guy?