All immediately after graduating with honors from Yale... Yeah dudes pretty committed and impressive in that regard for sure. He’s also far from a racist at least publicly speaking- nobody but he knows if he is or not but obviously facts definitely point to him not being whatsoever and good luck proving he’s racist as it’s impossible to do without fabricating or falsifying facts and reality
Yea my guy had to be using steroids for American History X. Those traps are way too big for even a dull year of insane training. That takes roids or multiple years. You can get a six pack or big arm muscles but those neck traps are generally a good way to tell if a guy is natural or not. Muscle tissue is really hard to build there, especially for guys that weight 150lbs. Id think a heavier guy who naturally gains weight easier could maybe do it in a year but not ed. Imo.
@@lachlanmadden740 The original ending had Derek looking himself in the mirror shaving his head, returning to his old ways. Norton strongly disagreed and believed the ending should be as you see in the film. personally i think Norton was right, and I'm glad he went to the studio and fought for what he thought the end should be. I think the original ending would have totally destroyed the film
Derek was such a painful character to watch go through such an immense transition. American History X is not just a masterpiece of cinema, it’s an important and vital dialogue that needed to be spoken. Brutal movie. A hard watch. A necessary story.
And..because of the extreme PC change over the last 2/3 years (since 2020)- we probably won’t see movies like this ever again. It’s a shame. Society has become *very* sensitive over subjects like this.
@@zeej80 yeahp. Just recently they removed shotcaller from netflix, a movie about a DUI driver who had to become skinhead to survive prison, then triumphs to topple the aryan gang and protect his family. They just can't hold that type of movie on their platform in this day and age. despite having had shotcaller on their platform basically since it came out.
Under appreciated? He’s one of those most well loved and famous actors of the last 50 years with dozens of movies and awards. How is that “under appreciated.”?
American History X is one of those movies where it's hard for you to want to watch it a second time, and not because it's bad. It just has to be one of the most tragic movies I've ever seen.
I have watched this movie a thousand times. I am facsinated at the human condition, and how what happens to us in life, no matter how big or little, can change us forever. We all have the potential for evil, as well as our own justifications for it.
@@keithmuset6510 As someone who has lived that life (except for buttfucking in shower) I can tell you it takes very little to seed the hate in a young heart full of pain and it takes a lot of willpower and time to later fix it, but fortunately it can be done! This film was part of my healing and returning to the right path. People don't even realize how little is needed for someone to become a monster
I swear you people break your necks to be the first person to get to the YT comment section and call something “unDERraTed.” He is one of the most famous actors of the last 50 years. He has starred in and been in dozens of amazing films. Won dozens of awards and still sought after for major roles to this day. How exactly is he “underrated.”?
@@abuDA-bt6ei that’s not what the post said. It said he was an “underrated actor.” Had nothing to do with the movie. Learn to comprehend reading there slick
@@Glitchfaction Edward Norton is the main character of fight club with the most screen time, but Brad Pitt completely overshadows him and is all people talk about. He is literally “underrated” compared to Brad Pitt in the movie. “Had nothing to do with the movie”. The movie is literally what proves how underrated he is. How are you supposed to rate actors if it’s not from their movies?
@@curtebo He fought with the director of American History X to change the storyline to what it is now. Is hollywood gonna give awards to guy like that? I dont think so.
Derick say always end with a Quote...So I picked someone I think you guys would like...“We are not enemies, but friends. We must not be enemies. Though passion may have strained, it must not break our bonds of affection. The mystic chords of memory will swell when again touched, as surely they will be, by the better angels of our nature.”
That’s very insightful. True he’s like rubber he’s an average and dull (but not in a bad way) that can just shift into characters. I don’t know if I’m describing it how you say but I see what your saying.
😐 Is someone going to tell him? Nobody? Fine...I'll do it. Two things, High Speed. 1. All Actors are suppose to be Chameleons. Research acting methods. 2. " You're not watching a celebrity,you're watching the character. " This (is fucking cringey) isn't at the fault of the actor, but the lack of being able to separate the actor from his characters (your fault).
How humble of him to not mention he also edited the movie himself. According to how I heard it, he sat in on the editing sessions with the director and disagreed with many of the decisions they were making throughout the process. So he went back in by himself and edited his own version which was longer and darker, and that's the version the studio went with.
Didn't know that either. Then, I'd have to assume that he had a hand in how raw the dinner flashback scene was (Derek losing it and all the dialogue leading up to that point). Maybe it just feels like it dragged on because of how genuinely uncomfortable it makes me feel, but it definitely seems like a prime candidate for Hollywood butchering. Too long, hammering the point in too hard, etc. w/e. It wasn't, or rather, it was supposed to be, and I'm glad they didn't cut into it.
I read something different. I read that the director had such a falling out with Norton-Furlong and the producers that he didn't even want his name attached to the project. He also stated that he would never work with Norton again and that Norton continuesly tied up production due to all the changes they wanted to apply. This information is also on IMDB. I read that somewhere else first. I think Norton and Furlong are superior talents so it seems hard to believe but you never know.
His entire performance is excellent but I think the standout moment is when he's giving his speech just before they trash that store. You can really see his anger and frustration.
"You see this?! It means NOT WELCOME! How could you bring him to my fathers table? How could you go from Dad to THAT?! Arent you ashamed??" "Im ashamed that you came out of my body"
@@samdiego1989 the problem is that what happens after the speech isn't what someone who gives a speech like that would do. It's blatant social engineering.
Ever since Joe had Mel Gibson on that one time his guests on his show have become next lvl. Joe getting Mike Tyson on was another HUGE moment for the Podcast. I guess word spread that having a 2 or 3 hour non scripted podcast session with Joe was actually a really good thing and he makes it easy... The fans get to see a more "real and unfiltered" side of some of the most amazing icon/actors and minds of our time.
NOW SAY GOODNIGHT That's why it's such a good movie. You sympathize with a violent racist murderer. You understand how he got where he is. He wants to change but he cant move on from the past because, either he cant accept what he's done, or because he's being dragged back to a worse version of himself by people he cared about. A very intelligent character study about the affects of institutional racism and the roots of it
@@robertlaube574 Chill bro, don't get your panties in a twist. But it's a fictional story. I don't think white guys are getting away with 2 years in jail for triple homicide, including a curb stomp lol.
Yeah I was wondering about the question. He asks him if it's difficult to keep going after an iconic role, but he has had multiple iconic roles. So that makes it much easier to keep going actually.
American History X is one of the greatest films ever made. Edward Norton deserved an Oscar for it. I saw it as a teenager and just had my teenage son watch it. He loved it too.
One of the most accurately depicted, beautifully written and filmed pieces of socio political commentary ever created. Everyone should have to watch this movie atleast once but sadly nowadays this would get silenced by people who take it at face value because they are unwilling to see how impactfully brilliant and deep it is
Inspired by God.. truth. The change and realization it created to bring his people back to the right path… lots of movies and songs are inspired by God. Poetry books art.. how soothing is nature, a walk in the woods. A flower in the desert, the sound of the wind etc.
Sadly it was silenced then. That is Hollywood for you. Same thing with American Sniper. And oddly enough the same thing with Straight outta Compton. Hollywood is hypocritical
She's defiantly in my Top 10 of Latina actors! The scene from Dust Till Dawn!! If you have never seen it which I'm sure most people have,if not sue so before you pass away!
Said that'll never happen because Tarantino's done after his next movie and he is already said he's trying to make a tarantino version. R rated. So unless ed and pit are going to play spock and kirk. Forget it
@@ron.hertzberg Quentin never said he was "done", he said he was done writing and/or directing. He still loves movies, he just wants to stay a little further back, like a producer. wording matters.
@@FoxUnitNell Think his star trek idea has bern shelved for now. Heard talks of him doing a horror movie instead for his 10th. Technically OUATIH was his 10th but he considers killbill to be all one movie.
That got so much fucking hate and I never understood why.... It is 1 of those movies that critics hates, and I watched multiple times.... It taught me not to listen to critics
David Oakes Oh, ANOTHER random on the internet who knows EXACTLY how someone should look while offering insults too. What good do your bring to the world by being such a tool?
It’s crazy to see these amazing actors age. To realize kids today won’t ever realize their massive effect on the film industry they made and how amazing of actors they use to be
Yeah fr. It seems only movies that seem to get play are action superhero movies where the emphasis is not really on the characters and acting etc so we don't really see too much of these stories and their actors making waves
He's a method actor, he really immersed himself into his character in American History X to the point he received some backlash, I'm sure he needed some down time to climb back out of that character. He was amazing.
AHX was a masterpiece of a movie. Such hard hitting and great acted by everyone. I always said Edward Furlong should have been the next DiCapiro after that performance
I didn't think Jamie did the uploading of clips here. I thought there was someone else chopping up the podcast and uploading them as the podcast is still going
I was watching Skin the other night and both me and my wife discussed American History X while watching this new movie Skin. We came to the conclusion that American History X was so good that if you watch any other movie of that genre, it just doesn't stand up and you end up saying "remember how good American history X was?"
American History X is one of those films that stays with you for a few days after you watch it. That twinkle in his eye as he's getting cuffed on his knees in the street is spine chilling.
This guy taught must of us what curb stomping is. It’s one thing to hear it described in history books, but the filming of it and “doing it” on screen forever imprinted it in our brain circuits.
Love Joe's Podcast and love y'alls channel For making his Podcast more accessible but I do have a suggestion. What about putting time stamps in your descriptions in case anybody wants to see a continuation of your clip on his main video. Like as in this clip begins at 36:00 and ends at 41:08. Again just a suggestion but that would actually make things a lot easier I think for everyone involved and makes it much more attainable for those intrested in certain parts of his Podcast but don't have time to sit through the full 3 hours.
@Top Shelf Fandom these uploads don’t give time-stamps from when they occur in the full episode. Jamie could easily be marking down the times of each topic as the conversation flows
Timestamps are great if you're really in a hurry. It's also quite a bit of work to do in the span of 3 hours. But come on. It's Ed Norton. You can't listen to the whole thing? Also here's an idea. Listen, pause it, and come back later! I know....I know. I'm a genius.
The movie was based off of a book loosely called Autobiography of a recovering skinhead. He’s my really good friend Frank Meeink. If you are a fan of the movie try giving the book a read. Hollywood embellished a lot compared to the book, like getting raped in prison, but Frank was Derek Vineyard in real life. Frank has helped me through a lot of my own struggles growing up in a gang in Chicago and moving past it. Hatred claims many victims along the way but you never realize it until it’s too late most of the time. Great movie and acting on Norton’s part as well.
It's a powerful tribute to his ability that before "American History X" I couldn't possibly have imagined him in that role, and then after seeing him in it... I can't possibly imagine anyone else doing so well with it.
Agreed. I think the same thing was being said about Heath Ledger as the Joker. Before that role, he was seen as this sensitive, good-looking, charming boy and he had roles to match that image. Nobody expected him to do well as a scary, psychotic, evil, mastermind. Then he just delivered probably one of the best villain roles of all time.
@@neemnoa303perhaps there is something to be said about how society depicts psychopaths and their antagonistic traits versus the innate darkness in the ones we view as harmless.
Brilliant in this movie. Somehow makes the character charismatic in his brutality then so vulnerable when he breaks... a character arc that has to be seen to be believed.
I rewatched the movie again, Hes simply amazing. Man the detail and the rant he did on the dinner table before he shoved the roast beef into his sisters mouth, speaks so many facts in 2020 america. Insane
@Vincent Verona That was the point. Most racism, when you break it down, is poorly thought out and simply comes from a place of bias and ignorance. The part of the performance isn't the words he's saying, it's the conviction with which he's saying them.
25th Hours is one of my favorite movies ever. Even for Norton fans it flies under the radar. He has one of the most powerful monologues of all time in that film-in the bathroom mirror. Incredible film.
I live in the American Gardens building on West 81st Street, on the 11th floor. My name is Patrick Bateman. I'm 27 years old. I believe in taking care of myself, in a balanced diet, in a rigorous exercise routine. In the morning, if my face is a little puffy, I'll put on an ice pack while doing my stomach crunches. I can do 1, 000 now. After I remove the ice pack, I use a deep pore cleanser lotion. In the shower, I use a water-activated gel cleanser then a honey-almond body scrub, and on the face, an exfoliating gel scrub. Then I apply an herb mint facial mask, which I leave on for ten minutes while I prepare the rest of my routine. I always use an aftershave lotion with little or no alcohol, because alcohol dries your face out and makes you look older. Then moisturizer, then an anti-aging eye balm, followed by a final moisturizing protective lotion. There is an idea of a Patrick Bateman. Some kind of abstraction. But there is no real me, only an entity, something illusory, and though I can hide my cold gaze and you can shake my hand and feel flesh gripping yours, and maybe you can even sense our lifestyles are probably comparable, I simply am not there.
One of the most incredible acting performances of all time. It's up there with de Niro in the deer hunter or James Gandolfini as Tony soprano. It's so incredible
Both Rounders and American History X released in the same year, and you get to see a total different Edward Norton in both; that's what I call superb acting. I have respect for type casted actors, but Norton is the classical definition of acting.
As much as American History X angered me to the point I couldn't finish it every time I'd say I was going to watch the whole this time, once I finally sat through the entire movie, it was the most moving story I'd ever watched and honestly Edward Norton was extremely ballsy to do it because he had no way of telling if he'd have a future as an actor after it. He really put everything he had into his character
@@Shiggystardust because there's so much much stigma against basically anything that's not the narrative today, but even back when there actually was white supremacists in the 90s a movie like this was seen as "controversial" make no mistake, I never said he SHOULD lose his career at all whatever. Just nice to see an actor have the balls to go there in his art to send a positive message. For sure I'm today's world they'd never green light a movie like this because the people controlling this woke narrative are too obsessed with keeping division
@@Tiffany-mu6br were u a child of the 90s? Films weren’t on this level in terms of being a masterpiece but the same tone and topics were regularly made into movies. Nothing about this movie was controversial at the time.
@Tiffany you're obviously young. This movie wasn't a threat to anyone's career. The witch hints you see today are not taken seriously by anyone but young people. It's sad.
American History X and Fight Club are two of the greatest movies ever made, Edward Norton should be very proud of having been the mains in them. You reached max level in those roles bro 💪
This guy is an amazing entertainer. His performances are so great and memorable that I have to watch him every day.... And Edward Norton is great too...
One of the best performances in film I’ve seen is him in American History X! You can look at it and honestly not think it’s the same person talking hear and in the movie. That movie is so underrated in so many ways! The acting in the movie was great but the points made in that film and how they’ve played out over time shouldn’t be overlooked.
They'll probably never make another movie like American history X. Too real and too raw for the snowflakes but in reality it sheds light on the underbelly of America
American History X was mainly Norton's Movie. He changed the script, he trained his role very serious he even visit a real skinhead group to know them - how they think how they feel how they life. Than Norton used this experience for this film. That's why the movie looks so realistic.
Edward Norton was genius in American History X , once you see it you ask everyone if they've seen it ? Then say , you have to see this movie. Just is an eye and mind opener. Like wow ! Powerful movie. Emotional . Hard to put into words.
Ed and his agent we're responsible for having Final Cut taking away from Tony kaye on this film only to make him look more favorable in the movie. It was going to be darker than what it actually was so Tony Kaye takes his name off of the film and then was blackballed in Hollywood for the next 10 years cuz of Ed Norton.
I knew Norton as the character in American History X and Fight Club, which I think were two films that had a lot of fanfare especially from young guys around my age at the time. And the People vs. Larry Flynt was a great movie, too. Ed Norton has a unique and great list of roles that he has played.
Within a span of three years Edward Norton starred in Primal Fear. American History X. And Fight Club. Iconic.
Rounders in 1998 as well. Movie was HUGE
Never saw primal fear, worth it?
All immediately after graduating with honors from Yale... Yeah dudes pretty committed and impressive in that regard for sure. He’s also far from a racist at least publicly speaking- nobody but he knows if he is or not but obviously facts definitely point to him not being whatsoever and good luck proving he’s racist as it’s impossible to do without fabricating or falsifying facts and reality
He was also in Death To Smoochy which is one of the most criminally underrated comedies of all time.
@@hellskitchen7853 fuck yes
His acting on American history X was simply amazing
So good it makes u wonder what he actually thinks of black folks
So good that I want to join white supremacists.
@Mike Scott wow so edgy
The monologue before they raid the supermarket was fucking powerful. Absolutely intense.
The monologue before they raid the supermarket was absolutely brilliant. Fucking intense!
Looking at him I’d never be able to picture him as intimidating, but when I see him in American History X, I’m genuinely afraid of him. Amazing actor.
Yep! Him, Josh Hartnet, Matt Dillon and Bokeem Woodbine, we don't see enough of them.
@@lachlanmadden740 there are alot of violent scenes cut that exist on some dvd copies as extras
Yea my guy had to be using steroids for American History X. Those traps are way too big for even a dull year of insane training. That takes roids or multiple years. You can get a six pack or big arm muscles but those neck traps are generally a good way to tell if a guy is natural or not. Muscle tissue is really hard to build there, especially for guys that weight 150lbs. Id think a heavier guy who naturally gains weight easier could maybe do it in a year but not ed. Imo.
@@lachlanmadden740 The original ending had Derek looking himself in the mirror shaving his head, returning to his old ways.
Norton strongly disagreed and believed the ending should be as you see in the film.
personally i think Norton was right, and I'm glad he went to the studio and fought for what he thought the end should be. I think the original ending would have totally destroyed the film
@@antonego9581 what the fuck is the point of that ending redemption for terrible people can exist isnt it based off a real neo nazi who quit?
Derek was such a painful character to watch go through such an immense transition. American History X is not just a masterpiece of cinema, it’s an important and vital dialogue that needed to be spoken. Brutal movie. A hard watch. A necessary story.
And..because of the extreme PC change over the last 2/3 years (since 2020)- we probably won’t see movies like this ever again. It’s a shame. Society has become *very* sensitive over subjects like this.
I just wish they didn't screw over the original ending
@@zeej80 yeahp. Just recently they removed shotcaller from netflix, a movie about a DUI driver who had to become skinhead to survive prison, then triumphs to topple the aryan gang and protect his family. They just can't hold that type of movie on their platform in this day and age. despite having had shotcaller on their platform basically since it came out.
Absolutely
@@princesmith8008 I'm glad they didn't to be honest, im all for reality in cinema but that is just TOO bleak....TOO on the nose...and TOO realistic
Edward Norton is such an under appreciated actor. So much talent. You’re a legend Mr. Norton
Under appreciated? He’s one of those most well loved and famous actors of the last 50 years with dozens of movies and awards. How is that “under appreciated.”?
He’s definitely one of, if not, my favorite actor(s)!
"Hate is baggage; life is too short to be pissed off all the time."
Is this from the movie? Its actually inspirational
@@Guiloification yeah, Danny says it at the end of the movie... the ending is heartbreaking.
@mrcleandoesit oh yeah, for sure!
That doesn't mean be content to be a boiling frog. Speak the truth, without violence, unless attacked.
Put your mouth on the curb!!
'American History X' was one of the greatest screen performances ever committed to film. He should have won the Oscar that year!
Yep
I knew that after Tombstone and Doc. Holiday's snub in 1993!
Weinstein robbed him and gave it to fuckin’ Begnini ...
I still don't understand why he went to prison for killing the home invaders
@@krinkle7695 it was all good up until he dragged the thief (who was no threat at this point) over to the curb and stomped his brains out
He was unbelievably good in American History X
That's his best role
He's very good in every movie really, but agreed, American History X was very, very good for him.
Thanks
um ...later on ..... not at first .people change but it was too late because nobody respects a racist...
Definetly the best
American History X introduced me to "curb stomping."
An awful way to die.
Imagine if it was directed by David Fincher. You would've seen his skull crack in magnificent detail.
LSU curb stomped Oklahoma 63 to 28...
Scene was absolutely brutal
That scene is hard to watch and when you know it's coming it takes forever for it to happen lol
American History X is one of those movies where it's hard for you to want to watch it a second time, and not because it's bad. It just has to be one of the most tragic movies I've ever seen.
American History X and Requiem for a Dream are the best movies I'll never watch a second time.
I lobe these kind of movies tho :/
Yeah fr a painful movie
I have watched this movie a thousand times. I am facsinated at the human condition, and how what happens to us in life, no matter how big or little, can change us forever. We all have the potential for evil, as well as our own justifications for it.
@@keithmuset6510 As someone who has lived that life (except for buttfucking in shower) I can tell you it takes very little to seed the hate in a young heart full of pain and it takes a lot of willpower and time to later fix it, but fortunately it can be done! This film was part of my healing and returning to the right path. People don't even realize how little is needed for someone to become a monster
American History X, Fight Club, Rounders, Primal Fear...Norton is a legend.
@tims_always_fishing agree, I missed a bunch.
The usual suspects was kick ass too!!
Never heard of rounders or primal fear but just found rounders on netflix! Thanks dude
Primal fear is awesome
Yeah Fight Club in my 2 slot after Remember The Titans. Classic film for sure I like putting people on to it who hasn't seen it.
I get Fight Club was great but truly American History X was where you see Norton disappear into a role and it's unforgettable the movie is so harsh
The character growth in American History X is phenomenal.
Is nazi -> Meets funny black guy -> Is not nazi.
@@erichodosh2933 no
@@erichodosh2933 super shallow analysis but ok
Facts I love a good non-linear storyline
Seth Organ is this factual are they really the same storyline or all connected? I’m intrigued
He’s an underrated actor. He’s extremely good. I loved American History X. One of the best movies I’ve ever seen hands down
I swear you people break your necks to be the first person to get to the YT comment section and call something “unDERraTed.”
He is one of the most famous actors of the last 50 years. He has starred in and been in dozens of amazing films. Won dozens of awards and still sought after for major roles to this day. How exactly is he “underrated.”?
@@Glitchfaction Look at you a miserable human being replying negative to every comment. I can tell you hate your life bud. Seek help
@@Glitchfactionbecause when you think of fight club, you think of Brad Pitt. Dumbf*ci
@@abuDA-bt6ei that’s not what the post said. It said he was an “underrated actor.” Had nothing to do with the movie. Learn to comprehend reading there slick
@@Glitchfaction Edward Norton is the main character of fight club with the most screen time, but Brad Pitt completely overshadows him and is all people talk about. He is literally “underrated” compared to Brad Pitt in the movie. “Had nothing to do with the movie”. The movie is literally what proves how underrated he is. How are you supposed to rate actors if it’s not from their movies?
It' hard to believe that this man never won an Oscar 😔
Very unfortunate
Jealousy at its finest from the Oscars.
Because he wasn't a kissass
Agreed! Maybe he doesn't play the Hollywood political games? Not sure.
@@curtebo He fought with the director of American History X to change the storyline to what it is now. Is hollywood gonna give awards to guy like that? I dont think so.
This movie taught me the urinals are the worst place to "piss" someone off
Ed Furlong's characters have the worst luck
@@gc3k american history x was about nazi's....you could say the nazi's had the "wurst" luck...
It's better to be pissed off than pissed on.
@@voteZDLR unless you're into golden showers...which is not uncommon
@@GrowingDownUnder lol yeah make sure you have your consent form signed and notarized but for the most part...
"Has anything you've done, made your life better?"
-AMERICAN HISTORY X
Best thing he could have said to get more attention
"put your fucking mouth on the curb"
Derick say always end with a Quote...So I picked someone I think you guys would like...“We are not enemies, but friends. We must not be enemies. Though passion may have strained, it must not break our bonds of affection. The mystic chords of memory will swell when again touched, as surely they will be, by the better angels of our nature.”
An important question everyone should be asking themselves during these troubled times, particularly if you think you don't need to.
More relevant than ever
All the best actors are chameleons. You’re not watching a “celebrity”, you’re watching the character.
Jeffrey Wright...all day long....plays a CIA agent in Bond films.....Muddy Waters....AND Peoples Hernandez in Shaft
That’s very insightful. True he’s like rubber he’s an average and dull (but not in a bad way) that can just shift into characters. I don’t know if I’m describing it how you say but I see what your saying.
Chameleons are lizards. They're boring to watch. My step dad has one.
@@josephgray6700 put him in front of a mirror, things get interesting real quick.
😐 Is someone going to tell him?
Nobody?
Fine...I'll do it.
Two things, High Speed.
1. All Actors are suppose to be Chameleons. Research acting methods.
2. " You're not watching a celebrity,you're watching the character. "
This (is fucking cringey) isn't at the fault of the actor, but the lack of being able to separate the actor from his characters (your fault).
How humble of him to not mention he also edited the movie himself. According to how I heard it, he sat in on the editing sessions with the director and disagreed with many of the decisions they were making throughout the process. So he went back in by himself and edited his own version which was longer and darker, and that's the version the studio went with.
Woah!! I didn't know that!
If that's true, I'm amazed!!! One of the best things about the movie is how it's put together
Didn't know that either. Then, I'd have to assume that he had a hand in how raw the dinner flashback scene was (Derek losing it and all the dialogue leading up to that point). Maybe it just feels like it dragged on because of how genuinely uncomfortable it makes me feel, but it definitely seems like a prime candidate for Hollywood butchering. Too long, hammering the point in too hard, etc. w/e. It wasn't, or rather, it was supposed to be, and I'm glad they didn't cut into it.
That is ultimately what got him booted out of the Marvel franchise, from what I understand. Not that he lost out or anything.
I read something different. I read that the director had such a falling out with Norton-Furlong and the producers that he didn't even want his name attached to the project. He also stated that he would never work with Norton again and that Norton continuesly tied up production due to all the changes they wanted to apply. This information is also on IMDB. I read that somewhere else first. I think Norton and Furlong are superior talents so it seems hard to believe but you never know.
"It's never gonna happen Murray! You can forget it , not on my watch." He owns that dinner scene , great performance.
His entire performance is excellent but I think the standout moment is when he's giving his speech just before they trash that store. You can really see his anger and frustration.
Means not welcome..yea
"Christ, Lincoln freed the slaves, like, what? 130 years ago. How long does it take to get your act together?"
"You see this?! It means NOT WELCOME!
How could you bring him to my fathers table? How could you go from Dad to THAT?! Arent you ashamed??"
"Im ashamed that you came out of my body"
@@samdiego1989 the problem is that what happens after the speech isn't what someone who gives a speech like that would do. It's blatant social engineering.
Can we appreciate the guests that Roe Jogan had on recently?
C Sellars exactly!!!
need more Richard Dawkins.
Ever since Joe had Mel Gibson on that one time his guests on his show have become next lvl. Joe getting Mike Tyson on was another HUGE moment for the Podcast.
I guess word spread that having a 2 or 3 hour non scripted podcast session with Joe was actually a really good thing and he makes it easy... The fans get to see a more "real and unfiltered" side of some of the most amazing icon/actors and minds of our time.
Brazilians say hoe Hogan
Lol.... Roe-Joe
"You see this? It means not welcome!" That scene from american history x was so intense
I always feel bad for that guy and his nose...
NOW SAY GOODNIGHT
That's why it's such a good movie. You sympathize with a violent racist murderer. You understand how he got where he is. He wants to change but he cant move on from the past because, either he cant accept what he's done, or because he's being dragged back to a worse version of himself by people he cared about. A very intelligent character study about the affects of institutional racism and the roots of it
@@stephengrigg5988 What makes it 'institutional' racism?
@@stephenhughes5156 prison dumbass. Prison politics.
@@robertlaube574 Chill bro, don't get your panties in a twist.
But it's a fictional story. I don't think white guys are getting away with 2 years in jail for triple homicide, including a curb stomp lol.
The guy has had so many iconic rolls it's crazy. One of the best actors ever.
Yeah I was wondering about the question. He asks him if it's difficult to keep going after an iconic role, but he has had multiple iconic roles. So that makes it much easier to keep going actually.
American History X is one of the greatest films ever made. Edward Norton deserved an Oscar for it. I saw it as a teenager and just had my teenage son watch it. He loved it too.
One of the most accurately depicted, beautifully written and filmed pieces of socio political commentary ever created. Everyone should have to watch this movie atleast once but sadly nowadays this would get silenced by people who take it at face value because they are unwilling to see how impactfully brilliant and deep it is
Inspired by God.. truth. The change and realization it created to bring his people back to the right path… lots of movies and songs are inspired by God. Poetry books art.. how soothing is nature, a walk in the woods. A flower in the desert, the sound of the wind etc.
Sadly it was silenced then. That is Hollywood for you. Same thing with American Sniper. And oddly enough the same thing with Straight outta Compton. Hollywood is hypocritical
Hail satan
this man was inside salma hayek. cheer this man
I concur. Damn, them titties !!
Jules 1207 really ? Nice
Have you seen her lately ? Lol
She's defiantly in my Top 10 of Latina actors! The scene from Dust Till Dawn!!
If you have never seen it which I'm sure most people have,if not sue so before you pass away!
he also dated Courtney Love
I would love to see Norton and Pitt get together again under the direction of Tarantino.
Said that'll never happen because Tarantino's done after his next movie and he is already said he's trying to make a tarantino version. R rated. So unless ed and pit are going to play spock and kirk. Forget it
@@ron.hertzberg so after OUATiH he's stopping unless it's star trek or has he's gotten the job to do star trek?
@@ron.hertzberg Quentin never said he was "done", he said he was done writing and/or directing. He still loves movies, he just wants to stay a little further back, like a producer.
wording matters.
@@FoxUnitNell Think his star trek idea has bern shelved for now. Heard talks of him doing a horror movie instead for his 10th. Technically OUATIH was his 10th but he considers killbill to be all one movie.
James. He’s got a 10 film plan, he’s just brought out number 9,
Death to smoochie was pretty epic too! Robin Williams and Norton made a hilarious pair
Passey's Perspective Such an underrated movie.
@@bubblesthemonkey6615 I know right?!
One of my most beloved movies all time.
That got so much fucking hate and I never understood why.... It is 1 of those movies that critics hates, and I watched multiple times.... It taught me not to listen to critics
No kidding!!! So damn funny
His first film role was "Primal Fear." Talk about hitting the ground running.
And in the next 3 years were rounders, fight club, and American history x. Range personified.
Edward Norton is my favourite actor of all-time. He's never made a bad movie. Red Dragon is my favourite
Red Dragon > Silence of the Lambs
I'd like to see a movie with Norton, Bale, Phoenix and Hardy. Some of the best actors imo
Chris Universe THE BEST!
Naked
Damn I think the universe would implode....that would be crazy
Ed Norton is how Matt Perry from Friends ought to look now instead of a homeless person.
David Oakes read my mind 😜
Here I was thinking you meant the other Matt Perry.
Seth Organs I am jacks bile duct
I’ll take 180 perc 10’s please and a side of hooker
David Oakes Oh, ANOTHER random on the internet who knows EXACTLY how someone should look while offering insults too.
What good do your bring to the world by being such a tool?
It’s crazy to see these amazing actors age. To realize kids today won’t ever realize their massive effect on the film industry they made and how amazing of actors they use to be
Yeah fr. It seems only movies that seem to get play are action superhero movies where the emphasis is not really on the characters and acting etc so we don't really see too much of these stories and their actors making waves
He's a method actor, he really immersed himself into his character in American History X to the point he received some backlash, I'm sure he needed some down time to climb back out of that character. He was amazing.
AHX was a masterpiece of a movie. Such hard hitting and great acted by everyone. I always said Edward Furlong should have been the next DiCapiro after that performance
Young Jamie's on fire with the uploads
Christopher Whiteside he has nothing else to do
@@Phicxtion he's got plenty to do you idiot. Go and hate somewhere else
Christopher Whiteside A little sensitive aren’t ya?
Christopher Whiteside i like to refer to him as “jamie pull that up”
I didn't think Jamie did the uploading of clips here. I thought there was someone else chopping up the podcast and uploading them as the podcast is still going
Anyone who hasn’t seen American History X SEE IT TONIGHT
On Netflix rn
I was watching Skin the other night and both me and my wife discussed American History X while watching this new movie Skin. We came to the conclusion that American History X was so good that if you watch any other movie of that genre, it just doesn't stand up and you end up saying "remember how good American history X was?"
Its a great movie.
It's on Netflix so they can definitely see it.
This guy gets it
The scene where he's talking to the news reporter about his dad's death is still hard hitting, man.
@ Nah, it just seems so real. Ed Norton is just such a great actor.
@@R3fug333 n that pinch of truth right ?
@ Meaning what, exactly?
@ Why are you being so vague?
@ What are these "phenomenons" and "pinches of truth" you're talking about, because you didn't answer the question.
Still the best Hulk imo
American History X is one of those films that stays with you for a few days after you watch it. That twinkle in his eye as he's getting cuffed on his knees in the street is spine chilling.
This guy taught must of us what curb stomping is. It’s one thing to hear it described in history books, but the filming of it and “doing it” on screen forever imprinted it in our brain circuits.
Taught Wandy and Shogun how to stomp. True pioneer of martial arts.
My favourite role of his by far is fight club, then American history x then primal fear then 25th hour
25th hour is so damn underrated.
What about "The Score?"
The score is another underrated classic.
Rounders.
Damn I loved 25th hour. Rosario Dawson was good in it too.
“When people don’t know what to do with you, you get to decide”. That’s great
I wonder how many times hes walked down the street and someone yells
"Hey Vinyard!"
🤣🤣
Cornelius !?
'Go easy on the brothers'
A would shout hey sexy studd muffin vinyard stuff ma muffing yaa bad boy lol
Love Joe's Podcast and love y'alls channel For making his Podcast more accessible but I do have a suggestion.
What about putting time stamps in your descriptions in case anybody wants to see a continuation of your clip on his main video. Like as in this clip begins at 36:00 and ends at 41:08. Again just a suggestion but that would actually make things a lot easier I think for everyone involved and makes it much more attainable for those intrested in certain parts of his Podcast but don't have time to sit through the full 3 hours.
More work for Young Jamie
@Top Shelf Fandom these uploads don’t give time-stamps from when they occur in the full episode. Jamie could easily be marking down the times of each topic as the conversation flows
Never going to see time stamps. Would’ve happened years ago, or still be happening, if Not so Young James had ever put any.
Timestamps are great if you're really in a hurry.
It's also quite a bit of work to do in the span of 3 hours.
But come on. It's Ed Norton. You can't listen to the whole thing?
Also here's an idea. Listen, pause it, and come back later! I know....I know. I'm a genius.
but money...
Goddamn, I love Ed Norton! He's on of my favorite actors
Michael Snyder I concur
Mine to and also and number one on my to do list if u know wit a mean haahaa lol
The movie was based off of a book loosely called Autobiography of a recovering skinhead. He’s my really good friend Frank Meeink. If you are a fan of the movie try giving the book a read. Hollywood embellished a lot compared to the book, like getting raped in prison, but Frank was Derek Vineyard in real life. Frank has helped me through a lot of my own struggles growing up in a gang in Chicago and moving past it. Hatred claims many victims along
the way but you never realize it until it’s too late most of the time. Great movie and acting on Norton’s part as well.
Yes! Everyone should read that book!
Edward norton should do roles like narrator in the fight club he really nailed it. He's one of the greatest
He's so good at taking on roles and getting into character that it drives his co-workers insane
Dude put on hella muscle for his role in American History X
It's a powerful tribute to his ability that before "American History X" I couldn't possibly have imagined him in that role, and then after seeing him in it... I can't possibly imagine anyone else doing so well with it.
Agreed. I think the same thing was being said about Heath Ledger as the Joker. Before that role, he was seen as this sensitive, good-looking, charming boy and he had roles to match that image. Nobody expected him to do well as a scary, psychotic, evil, mastermind. Then he just delivered probably one of the best villain roles of all time.
@@neemnoa303perhaps there is something to be said about how society depicts psychopaths and their antagonistic traits versus the innate darkness in the ones we view as harmless.
Dude fight club was soo good. Edward N. You are a legend love you !
Norton should finish off his career with a bang and play Hitler in a movie about WW2.
Brilliant in this movie. Somehow makes the character charismatic in his brutality then so vulnerable when he breaks... a character arc that has to be seen to be believed.
I rewatched the movie again, Hes simply amazing. Man the detail and the rant he did on the dinner table before he shoved the roast beef into his sisters mouth, speaks so many facts in 2020 america. Insane
@Vincent Verona That was the point. Most racism, when you break it down, is poorly thought out and simply comes from a place of bias and ignorance. The part of the performance isn't the words he's saying, it's the conviction with which he's saying them.
@Vincent Verona could u elaborate on a specific point?
Doesn’t come out often enough, please do more movies & talkies Ed
25th Hours is one of my favorite movies ever. Even for Norton fans it flies under the radar. He has one of the most powerful monologues of all time in that film-in the bathroom mirror. Incredible film.
Love that film! Spike Lee's best imo
Funny you say that…
I live in the American Gardens building on West 81st Street, on the 11th floor. My name is Patrick Bateman. I'm 27 years old. I believe in taking care of myself, in a balanced diet, in a rigorous exercise routine. In the morning, if my face is a little puffy, I'll put on an ice pack while doing my stomach crunches. I can do 1, 000 now. After I remove the ice pack, I use a deep pore cleanser lotion. In the shower, I use a water-activated gel cleanser then a honey-almond body scrub, and on the face, an exfoliating gel scrub. Then I apply an herb mint facial mask, which I leave on for ten minutes while I prepare the rest of my routine. I always use an aftershave lotion with little or no alcohol, because alcohol dries your face out and makes you look older. Then moisturizer, then an anti-aging eye balm, followed by a final moisturizing protective lotion. There is an idea of a Patrick Bateman. Some kind of abstraction. But there is no real me, only an entity, something illusory, and though I can hide my cold gaze and you can shake my hand and feel flesh gripping yours, and maybe you can even sense our lifestyles are probably comparable, I simply am not there.
I wish he make more movies. He’s my favorite actor.
The curb stomping scene is up there with the hobbling in Misery as some of the most disturbingly realistic violence in movies.
He was amazing in Eisenheim ("The Illusionist"). One of my favorites.
Yes! The Illusionist was really good!
Yes I loved that film
@@deerheart87 me too!!!
American history x is one of the greatest movies ever made
Joe and Ed just the best of pals chopping it up about movies and stuff.... my fav.
Ed Norton is like Garth Algar's smarter brother.
Yes
Best comment i think ive ever seen lol
Hey... I fixed the oven with a butter knife.
It makes sense that he isn't tied down to one role, because he's such a good actor that several of his roles are iconic. Primal Fear for instance
One of the most incredible acting performances of all time. It's up there with de Niro in the deer hunter or James Gandolfini as Tony soprano. It's so incredible
i think we all can agree Norton is one of the greatest actors of his generation and the generations that followed.
Both Rounders and American History X released in the same year, and you get to see a total different Edward Norton in both; that's what I call superb acting. I have respect for type casted actors, but Norton is the classical definition of acting.
He's been in so many awesome movies.
One of my favorite movies of ALL time!!!! I still get chills watching it, very impactful movie and he nailed that performance...
That's how the I know the jew still has you.
@@cnote3598 please elaborate
As much as American History X angered me to the point I couldn't finish it every time I'd say I was going to watch the whole this time, once I finally sat through the entire movie, it was the most moving story I'd ever watched and honestly Edward Norton was extremely ballsy to do it because he had no way of telling if he'd have a future as an actor after it. He really put everything he had into his character
Why would he not have a career after it even if the movie was panned???
@@Shiggystardust because there's so much much stigma against basically anything that's not the narrative today, but even back when there actually was white supremacists in the 90s a movie like this was seen as "controversial" make no mistake, I never said he SHOULD lose his career at all whatever. Just nice to see an actor have the balls to go there in his art to send a positive message. For sure I'm today's world they'd never green light a movie like this because the people controlling this woke narrative are too obsessed with keeping division
@@Tiffany-mu6br were u a child of the 90s? Films weren’t on this level in terms of being a masterpiece but the same tone and topics were regularly made into movies. Nothing about this movie was controversial at the time.
@Tiffany you're obviously young. This movie wasn't a threat to anyone's career. The witch hints you see today are not taken seriously by anyone but young people. It's sad.
He got pretty jacked for that film
American History X and Fight Club are two of the greatest movies ever made, Edward Norton should be very proud of having been the mains in them. You reached max level in those roles bro 💪
He insisted the shower scene to be real.
That's dedication.
Lol
It's dedication when you can't sit down for two weeks? Jk
Looks like he is still struggling with insomnia
He's the cure for insomnia
Ironic that a guy so flawlessly acting out parts seemed to have some trouble articulating his thoughts to Rogan.
This guy is an amazing entertainer. His performances are so great and memorable that I have to watch him every day.... And Edward Norton is great too...
America history x should be played at every high school…
I love Joe because he asked these amazing professionals the questions we normal people want to ask them.
One of the best performances in film I’ve seen is him in American History X! You can look at it and honestly not think it’s the same person talking hear and in the movie. That movie is so underrated in so many ways! The acting in the movie was great but the points made in that film and how they’ve played out over time shouldn’t be overlooked.
They'll probably never make another movie like American history X. Too real and too raw for the snowflakes but in reality it sheds light on the underbelly of America
American History X was mainly Norton's Movie. He changed the script, he trained his role very serious he even visit a real skinhead group to know them - how they think how they feel how they life. Than Norton used this experience for this film. That's why the movie looks so realistic.
It's crazy in a span of one year he went from buff shape in American history X to skinny limp in Fight club that shows how much great actor he is!
American History X is one of the best movies ever made. And people should be watching that right now.
Edward Norton was genius in American History X , once you see it you ask everyone if they've seen it ? Then say , you have to see this movie. Just is an eye and mind opener. Like wow ! Powerful movie. Emotional . Hard to put into words.
Ed and his agent we're responsible for having Final Cut taking away from Tony kaye on this film only to make him look more favorable in the movie. It was going to be darker than what it actually was so Tony Kaye takes his name off of the film and then was blackballed in Hollywood for the next 10 years cuz of Ed Norton.
I can't imagine anyone but Edward Norton and Edward Furlong in those two roles. They both deserved more recognition for their performances.
2 greatest actors of all time
Edward Norton
Brian Cranston
“And also.........I think I tend to take my time between things “ he knows himself so well
American History X is still to this day one of my favorite films of all time.
It’s pretty damn good
Billy Conforto
You’re that guy
@CorathTheHung No it was corny and would've took away the purpose of the whole movie.
One of the most important movies ever.
he is possibly my fav actor, his parts were so memorable...
The moment he gets arrested and looks so proud always scared the shit out of me
Love Edward Norton. He’s a beast
Ron Gravel I wish he could’ve been Hulk again
I knew Norton as the character in American History X and Fight Club, which I think were two films that had a lot of fanfare especially from young guys around my age at the time. And the People vs. Larry Flynt was a great movie, too. Ed Norton has a unique and great list of roles that he has played.
Sounds like Joe is REALLY enjoying himself over there.
I love how Joe let's him talk, like us he's so admiring of Ed.
American History X is fantastic. Both Edwards were mind blowing. I was 15 when it came out. My love for this film has grown over the years. ❤️
What is American History X about?
Joe sounds like he's pleasuring himself at certain points here.
Dude lol , mmmmm riteee
lmao