I bought a similar Honda CB650R with an E-clutch back in May, largely thanks to your videos where I heard it’s also suitable for taller riders (I’m 192 cm). Initially, I was also considering other bikes like the Yamaha XSR900. Unfortunately, the dealership here in Lithuania didn’t have it in stock. I wanted to sit on it and get a feel for the riding position, and I wasn’t keen on ordering it blindly. I got my license on August 13th, and by then, I had already put around 1000 km on the bike, learning and practicing with it. I even took my driving test on it. In driving school, we trained on the Yamaha MT-07. One of the things I love most about the Honda CB650R is its four-cylinder engine. It’s incredibly smooth, especially when compared to the twin-cylinder engine of the Yamaha MT-07. As you’ve mentioned, if you keep the revs low, it’s very beginner-friendly despite having 95 horsepower. But if you feel like having some fun, revving it over 7,000 rpm transforms it into an entirely different beast. The only thing I had to adjust to was the throttle. It has an unusually long free play at the beginning, and the throttle response is quite sensitive - almost jerky. I’ve added some mods to the bike: Evotech Honda CB650R crash protection (sliders), heated grips (which I consider a must-have), and a small Honda windscreen for the instrument panel with an aluminum insert. So far, I’ve ridden 6,300 km around Lithuania, and I’m extremely satisfied with the bike. I did encounter one issue, though: As I was riding, I suddenly noticed that I couldn’t shift gears using the gear change pedal. The pedal felt loose, and there was no resistance or response when I tried to change gears. After pulling over and inspecting the situation, I realized the 7 mm flange nut had unscrewed, causing the gear change sensor to completely disconnect from the gear change arm. Luckily, I was in the city when it happened, and I was able to knock on a nearby house and fix it temporarily with two nuts - and it worked just fine! :) Later, the Honda dealership replaced the parts with original ones. I found out I’m not the only one who experienced this problem. Either the nut wasn’t secured with threadlocker, or it loosened up due to vibrations. I’m not sure, but I would’ve added a locknut to prevent it from happening again. Now, after some time, I realize that for long trips (over 400 km), I’d probably prefer a different bike - something with a more comfortable seat, wind protection, and cruise control. But for city riding and trips under 200 km, it’s perfect. As for the E-clutch, I find it really convenient in traffic. When you let off the throttle, the bike coasts smoothly and gradually slows down to a stop. It automatically disengages the clutch as the engine revs drop below idle. You can maintain a speed of 3-5 km/h by just giving short bursts of throttle. Most of the time, you don’t need to use the clutch at all, which is very convenient. However, there are a few things to keep in mind. For example, in driving school, we were taught to do U-turns and slaloms at idle speed. With the E-clutch, it’s possible, but in tight turns, the bike loses a bit of speed if you let go of the throttle. You need to be aware of that. On the flip side, it allows you to make tighter turns. If you want to do a U-turn while maintaining constant throttle, there’s a trick: press and release the clutch lever before the maneuver, and the E-clutch disengages for 5 seconds. There are some nuances, but it’s really beginner-friendly. What I don’t like: sometimes downshifts aren’t as smooth as they would be if done manually. I think this is because the throttle is cable-operated, and the system can’t blip the throttle during downshifts. I feel like the E-clutch would perform much better if the throttle was ride-by-wire, allowing the computer to manage the throttle more accurately during shifts. Overall, I’m really happy with my choice. For long trips, I’d like a second bike with an engine as smooth as this one. I’m currently considering the Yamaha Tracer 9GT+ or Ducati Multistrada V4S as a second bike.
Wow! Thank you for sharing your experience and perspective :) Yeah I hear about the issue with the gear change pedal, it tends to get loose from vibrations yes.
@@MotoMacek Thank you for your response! Glad to hear I’m not the only one who’s had that issue with the gear change pedal. :) By the way, in your video, you mentioned using ear plugs to reduce noise while riding. What kind of ear plugs do you use? I’ve been considering getting some, and I’d love to hear your recommendation.
@@DimchanskyLive I noticed some guys complaining about those gear pedal issues in a CB650R owner facebook group so it definitely seems like it's a general problem. About the ear plugs.. in my opinion it is essential to ride with them because the wind noise can really damage your hearing over the years and you might end up with serious hearing loss after just 10 years of regular riding! Honestly I use some very basic silicone earplugs.. any kind will work really. The ones meant for loud concerts in my opinion work the best on the motorcycle :) Just avoid those that are really soft and made out of foam and you should be fine.
Really nice, personal experience, and great to hear the breadth of topics covered in one video (like a review but speaking more from personal experience than speculation). Thank you p.s. the spotless crash bars after so many miles - bravo!
Nice review and fun to see a fellow Honda CB650R 2024 owner ;) i have done about 5000 km on mine and also as my first bike. It suits me so very well, as it has a sort of power that gives me respect for the bike but also gives me the opportunity to loose my mind now and then and floor it and feel the smile all up to my ears... It is a bike that you want everybody too look at when you come through. I would be very surprised, if i would ever have any major issues with it! Of course, the wind and turbulence is a factor, but hey it makes it feel even faster. Might invest in a windscreen, although it would degrade its raw and strong look!? Ride safe and stay filled with adrenaline
CS Racing exhaust man, like eating candy with your ears. Also get rid of that lizard tail, haha. - About the video, I think it's a fair and good review of the bike. A lot to be agreed there. Nice job on the talking also. I was going to make a "tour" on my bike some weeks ago but.. felt kinda dumb talking to the vid. Maybe I'll do it on a later date.
I paused the video just to answer your questions: I bought mine in July - model 2022. I drove 4300 km. Just I dint have a lot of time. For the exhaust - only and only Akrapovic. And for a compromise - CS Racing, looking pretty good!!! Still saving money for Akrapovic... I keep watching! ;)
Awesome video, I have a CB650R as well. The inline 4 is very fun and it's an excellent bike to grow into :) I've done 5km this year on mine! Also yes, the rear is ugly so I ended up going with an evotech tail tidy. So far no issues with mounting and the signals still work wiring wise. Just sucks running over puddles, you'll get splashed on your back lol.
I started riding this year and got a 125cc for easier learning and just recently bought a used 2022 cb650r as my first motorcycle for next season. Can't wait to do 15k km on it too :D
I had mine for 14'000km, 10'000km of those it was restricted to 35kw. I found myself wanting something more powerful just after 4000km with full power. That's why I sold it and bought a XSR900 🤩
Nice man! The XSR900 is also on my wishlist when I decide to get a new bike :) How does the 3cyl feel compared to the 4cyl? Is it still so smooth? How are the vibrations? Is the XSR much bigger than the CB650? I'd really like to know :D
@@MotoMacek okay so the differences are as follows: Many people say the XSR900 is very uncomfortable. Imo that is not true; yes, it is not as comfortable as the CB650R, but not that uncomfortable by any means. For the smoothness of the engine, it is very smooth, also in low revs. But again, not as smooth as the CB650R. On a scale it would be much closer to a 4cyl than to a 2cyl engine. I didn't notice any more/less vibrations than on the CB650R. I mean, I haven't thought about vibrations until now, which means it's (at least in my opinion) nothing to worry about. The power difference is pretty noticeable. The CB650R really gets going after 6k, the XSR feels like that after just 3k. After 7k, the XSR reealllly leaps forward. I would say the CB650R's power is sufficient, but more in higher speeds. Since I live in Switzerland where there a lot of twisty roads and very restricted speed limits, I wanted something with more power on the low-end. That's basically why I sold the CB650R. I think the XSR900's power is almost too much here where I live, and let's say an XSR700 still would be enough for the roads here. Maybe I'll get an XSR700 as a second bike, but we'll see... The build quality of the XSR900 is very good, but I'd say the Honda's is still a tiny bit better. Hope that helps you a bit. Feel free to ask me more questions! The CB650R is still a very good bike with many advantages. It's just that I liked literally everything besides the engine (I mean I love the engine, but it's the fact that 2cyl and 3cyl bikes with their torque powerband down low are more fun here in Switzerland. But that's just my opinion).😄
@@MotoMacek Ah and the downside of the XSR is its maneuverability at very low speeds, because of its reallllly bad turning circle due to the longer distance between both wheels and the bad steering angle.
I did just under 35,000km in one year on my vuclan s. And it was my first year riding XD love it! Doesn't matter how much or little you ride, as long as you do :)
I also really need to get a cbr650r to replace my 6 year old cb500f. I've tested the cb650r, and it's a dream. I also think the stock pipe is good enough, i'd maybe only paint the metal cover black. Stock tail tidy looks pretty solid imo, only the number plate light is a bit clonky. I highly recommend a cooler-grill, stone chips an easily damage the cooler. And if you want to make it look nicer, Highsider Montana (round) bar end mirrors would look great on the bike. If you flip them up you see more.
Thank you for this well-rounded review! Even though there is an overflow of positive opinions on this bike as a beginner bike, still there are a lot of boomers who say you shouldn't start on a 650cc bike. I think it all comes down to your mentality about riding in general. Like you said, you have to respect the power of the machine and have common sense when it comes to speed. Have you dumped your bike by the way? I saw you showing off the crashbars, I was wondering if as a beginner you had any issues with balancing your weight on this bike, or doing slow-speed maneuvers.
Not gonna lie I didn't wanna get the bike as a first bike but there really was no other option.. the 300-500 class is just sooo tiny for me.. felt like sitting on a BMX. Yeah the maturity level of the individual plays the biggest part here! No, luckily I didn't have any issues balancing the bike around, never dropped the bike. I am always really careful, especially in slow speed traffic I laser focus on the situation.
Awesome video man, I love the bike! As far as the tail tiny and the regulations in neighboring countries, I'd imagine if you could just keep the stock tail in your garage and then whenever you want to go out to Austria or another country that has more restrictions just replace the tail tiny with the stock tail. Hope this helps!
great video bro....I keep hearing this about chains. OK here a fact the chain will last a couple years depending on your riding. there self lubricated from factory eh so change it every couple years and don't bother oiling it or grease it will just flick that sticky stuff everywhere. front sprocket every two rear every 4 is what I do and never had an issue. happy biking!!
I got a cbr500r used for a first bike and it’s plenty for me. Our learner course here had 250cc adventure style bikes with off road tires. I found the 500 ride height was appropriate. The weight was a lot, but after a couple months I got used to it a fair bit. The power 0-60 is awesome, but I think I’d get this next. I want the 4cyl sounds.
This was my first season also and I did 3500km in 6 months, so for me 15000 km is a lot. I am starting from 2019 Yamaha Aerox 50cc, so long distance trips are almost impossible due to its small engine and availability of roads I can ride on. I got it brand new as Christmas gift, but i was a little lazy to do my drivers license 😅. I enjoyed this season. Greetings from Poland!
I commute on my XSR and it's kinda cold like 9C in the morning but leather jacket and reminder that rubber is not sticking in cold like it should on warm days. I will ride as long as I can and honestly riding at like 15 - 20C is so nice even on nakeds
Great video mate, I bought mine this year just like you in May, I am from Slovakia so the weather is pretty much the same as it is at you. I tought that I was riding so much I started to feel sad for the bike because I was using it at every opportunity, but looking at yours now I am not sure :D :o 15000 km is crazy, but its nice to see that you are enjoying it, I only did 5000 but there is still a bit time this year for riding :D
Congratulations on the bike brother! What can I say... it's just too much fun to ride haha 15.000km went by like nothing.. next year probably even more :D You guys have some beautiful nature and roads there, hopefully visiting next season on the CB !
@@MotoMacek You said that you need some recomendations for modifications, I allready did the tailtidy and changed the exhaust just as you mentioned, here are my tips for you: For tail tidy I bought the one from Evotech. It is perfect easy to install there is a whole video step by step how to change it it is really easy to install took me about an 1 or so I can only recomend it. And looks great. You have to be careful with the things that you buy , you have to make sure that they are for the 2024 model because some things changed from the previous models especially with the exhaust. The 2024 model has 2 o2 sensors in the exhaust not like the models before that has only 1, so the exhaust for the previous models are not compatible with the 2024 model. So there are not many options now for exhausts because the bike is so new, maybe next year there will be more. For the exhaust I bought the : Ixil rc race xtreme it is a full system with down pipes, cat delete, no dbkillers it is a full straight pipe and everything, it is not homologised in this case not legal, in my contry the police dont realy care so I went with it for the sound. It was worth it , the bike sound mental 😂 I advise you no matter what exhaust you chose to take it to a professional shop to install, I installed mine at home and it didnt work, i did aroung 50km with the new exhaust and got a check engine, i took the bike to service yesterday and they told me that I installed is wrong, there was problems at the downpipes I didnt tighten the screws enough so it was leaking exhaust gases that caused the check engine, because these 2024 models are so sensitive to these exhaust values. So they remounted it fixed it, changed the copper O rings in the manifolds(which were nowhere told or adviced to be changed when purchasing the exhaust) and now it runs fine. So my advice is that you can easily install the tailtidy at home but when changing the exhaust I would find professional help to avoid the headace 😉
@@janicsinter8970 Great advice! Thank you so much :) Yeah I'm still waiting for the exhausts to see what is going to be available next year :) Here the tail tidy and exhaust both have to be homologated sadly and in Austria it's even more strict.. the fines are very big if you get caught.
The bike is vibrating a lot because you’re keeping the revs high by holding the bike in 2nd or 3rd gear for prolonged periods of your ride, when you should be in 5th or 6th. I would only go down to 2nd for a hairpin bend or small roundabout!
For my taste it lacks the power down low in order to use 5th or 6th gear frequently, it's perhaps the only reason why I'd exchange it for something bigger.
Hey man great bike , ride safe 🙏🏻 I’m planning to get the same model next year , what type of dual lock is that for the phone? And what accessories would you recommend as a beginner rider 😊
Thank you for taking time to review and share your experience with us, i'm getting the E-CB650r soon wanna know if you had to buy this bike again? or u'll go with Z900 or mt-09 since its in the same budget range..
Now with my experience level I'd probably go for something stronger like the MT09 or the XSR900. But if I were at the same experience level again as last year I'd get the CB650R again in a hearbeat. It really is a great bike and I have zero regrets.
super video. heh pri 6 minuti, si pa pri globasnici. 😀 no lepo pot si izbral. je pa tudi tista proti klagenfurtu oziroma ferlachu lepa, če bi na križišču šel desno namesto levo proti Ž.Kapli
Hvala! Ja haha točno, brez skrbi tudi tja sem se že peljal, ponavadi furam od mejnega prehoda Šentilj do Soboth See in potem dalje za Klagenfurt in Villach pa potem dol v Kranjsko Goro :D Taka res lepa celodnevna fura
Have mine since August. And rode until now 4500 km. Idk how you have the stock exhaust ? xD I ordered my exhaust before i got the bike wtf. They sound rubish without exhaust
I would leave the exhaust as it is. It's a waste of money and the stock one is pretty good. I would also leave tail as it is. I have a tail tidy on my current motorcycle and when it rains, I get dirt thrown on my back.
Hello there! I have my CB650R 2024 for a month now 2000 km. I noticed some oxidation on the exhaust pipes that bothers me. Is yours like that? Cause I didn’t notice anything. Generally the bike is awesome!
I got my motorcycle L plates here in Australia in August 2022 and I had 2 Learner legal bikes which i covered 21,000ks on up till November 2023 then i started riding my Harley on my full licence and i am 4 weeks shy of the 1 year anniversary of riding on my full license and the Harley is up to 18,000ks 😁ride and don't stop
Hi! Thanks you so much for you very good vidéo test. Im French I live in France and I hesitate about buy this bike. Im a Little tall 1m86 and I dont know if its a problem to drive with this bike. Its for driving everyday everytime in the Year to go at job. Summer or winter, Im going to drive every week every day. You think its good choice ? Thanks you again !
Thank you. Like I said in the video im 194cm tall and have no problems on longer rides. Yes as a daily commuter to work kind of bike this is a good choice. It's very easy to ride in traffic at low speeds.
Thx for your advise. Did you have an issue over 150km/h. Mine cut the power with yellow engine light. The bike is eletricaly restricted, could it be the reason?
@ i also have this issue with the old cb650r last year, the seller said its cause by electronic restrictions without air admission. The restricted version is only sell like that in our country
I was driving CBR650R and it is very good. Normal driving, but not slow driving you can get under 4l/100km no problem. To go above 5l you have to rly push it or drive high rpms.
Considering the cb650r as my first bike cause I have to ride 3 times a week 200km on a highway, but I have to get it restricted for the first year. Is it suitable?
I was test driving twice CBR650R and twice GSX-8R. For me suzuki have better meterial quality then honda. I could see way more marks at the cbr650r at the plastics and stuff.
Theres 2 models, one with the eclutch and one without. Personally im hoping to get the eclutch version. They've recently hit Australia and im so damn keen
Not sure why you drive so high rpms while normal driving without some significant acceleration You can even keep it around 3k. Fuel consumption gonna be way lower.
Because I'm a beginner and wanted my first bike to be a normal clutch bike so I can learn the traditional way. I know myself enough that I'd just bang the gears up and down with the E-Clutch because it's easier.
No, unfortunately it does not. Old school. Quickshifter works only up. Downshifts are all manual. I think the E-Clutch also does not have the autoblip.
Damn 15.000 km in a year. That’s massive I’ve done 4.000 kilometers since April on my 2021 mt-09. Awesome video!
It's just so much fun :D Damn the MT-09 is a crazy bike :)
if you lived where this dude you would also do 15k... look at his vids it's a fucking paradise
@@theslowdeath Haha thank you I appreciate that, the nature and roads here really are nice :)
I bought a similar Honda CB650R with an E-clutch back in May, largely thanks to your videos where I heard it’s also suitable for taller riders (I’m 192 cm). Initially, I was also considering other bikes like the Yamaha XSR900. Unfortunately, the dealership here in Lithuania didn’t have it in stock. I wanted to sit on it and get a feel for the riding position, and I wasn’t keen on ordering it blindly. I got my license on August 13th, and by then, I had already put around 1000 km on the bike, learning and practicing with it. I even took my driving test on it. In driving school, we trained on the Yamaha MT-07.
One of the things I love most about the Honda CB650R is its four-cylinder engine. It’s incredibly smooth, especially when compared to the twin-cylinder engine of the Yamaha MT-07. As you’ve mentioned, if you keep the revs low, it’s very beginner-friendly despite having 95 horsepower. But if you feel like having some fun, revving it over 7,000 rpm transforms it into an entirely different beast.
The only thing I had to adjust to was the throttle. It has an unusually long free play at the beginning, and the throttle response is quite sensitive - almost jerky.
I’ve added some mods to the bike: Evotech Honda CB650R crash protection (sliders), heated grips (which I consider a must-have), and a small Honda windscreen for the instrument panel with an aluminum insert.
So far, I’ve ridden 6,300 km around Lithuania, and I’m extremely satisfied with the bike.
I did encounter one issue, though: As I was riding, I suddenly noticed that I couldn’t shift gears using the gear change pedal. The pedal felt loose, and there was no resistance or response when I tried to change gears. After pulling over and inspecting the situation, I realized the 7 mm flange nut had unscrewed, causing the gear change sensor to completely disconnect from the gear change arm.
Luckily, I was in the city when it happened, and I was able to knock on a nearby house and fix it temporarily with two nuts - and it worked just fine! :) Later, the Honda dealership replaced the parts with original ones. I found out I’m not the only one who experienced this problem. Either the nut wasn’t secured with threadlocker, or it loosened up due to vibrations. I’m not sure, but I would’ve added a locknut to prevent it from happening again.
Now, after some time, I realize that for long trips (over 400 km), I’d probably prefer a different bike - something with a more comfortable seat, wind protection, and cruise control. But for city riding and trips under 200 km, it’s perfect.
As for the E-clutch, I find it really convenient in traffic. When you let off the throttle, the bike coasts smoothly and gradually slows down to a stop. It automatically disengages the clutch as the engine revs drop below idle. You can maintain a speed of 3-5 km/h by just giving short bursts of throttle. Most of the time, you don’t need to use the clutch at all, which is very convenient. However, there are a few things to keep in mind. For example, in driving school, we were taught to do U-turns and slaloms at idle speed. With the E-clutch, it’s possible, but in tight turns, the bike loses a bit of speed if you let go of the throttle. You need to be aware of that. On the flip side, it allows you to make tighter turns. If you want to do a U-turn while maintaining constant throttle, there’s a trick: press and release the clutch lever before the maneuver, and the E-clutch disengages for 5 seconds. There are some nuances, but it’s really beginner-friendly.
What I don’t like: sometimes downshifts aren’t as smooth as they would be if done manually. I think this is because the throttle is cable-operated, and the system can’t blip the throttle during downshifts. I feel like the E-clutch would perform much better if the throttle was ride-by-wire, allowing the computer to manage the throttle more accurately during shifts.
Overall, I’m really happy with my choice. For long trips, I’d like a second bike with an engine as smooth as this one. I’m currently considering the Yamaha Tracer 9GT+ or Ducati Multistrada V4S as a second bike.
Wow! Thank you for sharing your experience and perspective :) Yeah I hear about the issue with the gear change pedal, it tends to get loose from vibrations yes.
@@MotoMacek Thank you for your response! Glad to hear I’m not the only one who’s had that issue with the gear change pedal. :) By the way, in your video, you mentioned using ear plugs to reduce noise while riding. What kind of ear plugs do you use? I’ve been considering getting some, and I’d love to hear your recommendation.
@@DimchanskyLive I noticed some guys complaining about those gear pedal issues in a CB650R owner facebook group so it definitely seems like it's a general problem.
About the ear plugs.. in my opinion it is essential to ride with them because the wind noise can really damage your hearing over the years and you might end up with serious hearing loss after just 10 years of regular riding! Honestly I use some very basic silicone earplugs.. any kind will work really. The ones meant for loud concerts in my opinion work the best on the motorcycle :) Just avoid those that are really soft and made out of foam and you should be fine.
Really nice, personal experience, and great to hear the breadth of topics covered in one video (like a review but speaking more from personal experience than speculation). Thank you
p.s. the spotless crash bars after so many miles - bravo!
Thank you for the nice feedback brother ! :)
Nice review and fun to see a fellow Honda CB650R 2024 owner ;)
i have done about 5000 km on mine and also as my first bike. It suits me so very well, as it has a sort of power that gives me respect for the bike but also gives me the opportunity to loose my mind now and then and floor it and feel the smile all up to my ears... It is a bike that you want everybody too look at when you come through. I would be very surprised, if i would ever have any major issues with it!
Of course, the wind and turbulence is a factor, but hey it makes it feel even faster. Might invest in a windscreen, although it would degrade its raw and strong look!?
Ride safe and stay filled with adrenaline
Awesome video, well structured, all the info clearly explained, like your country as well, high on my list to visit!
CS Racing exhaust man, like eating candy with your ears. Also get rid of that lizard tail, haha. - About the video, I think it's a fair and good review of the bike. A lot to be agreed there. Nice job on the talking also. I was going to make a "tour" on my bike some weeks ago but.. felt kinda dumb talking to the vid. Maybe I'll do it on a later date.
I paused the video just to answer your questions:
I bought mine in July - model 2022. I drove 4300 km. Just I dint have a lot of time.
For the exhaust - only and only Akrapovic. And for a compromise - CS Racing, looking pretty good!!! Still saving money for Akrapovic...
I keep watching! ;)
Thank you for your feedback :)
Awesome video, I have a CB650R as well. The inline 4 is very fun and it's an excellent bike to grow into :) I've done 5km this year on mine! Also yes, the rear is ugly so I ended up going with an evotech tail tidy. So far no issues with mounting and the signals still work wiring wise. Just sucks running over puddles, you'll get splashed on your back lol.
The exhaust systems Honda puts on them OEM are works of art. I always loved the angle and symmetry of the headers on these new CB's.
I started riding this year and got a 125cc for easier learning and just recently bought a used 2022 cb650r as my first motorcycle for next season. Can't wait to do 15k km on it too :D
Congratulations man! Stay safe and have fun brother :D
I had mine for 14'000km, 10'000km of those it was restricted to 35kw. I found myself wanting something more powerful just after 4000km with full power. That's why I sold it and bought a XSR900 🤩
Nice man! The XSR900 is also on my wishlist when I decide to get a new bike :) How does the 3cyl feel compared to the 4cyl? Is it still so smooth? How are the vibrations? Is the XSR much bigger than the CB650? I'd really like to know :D
@@MotoMacek okay so the differences are as follows: Many people say the XSR900 is very uncomfortable. Imo that is not true; yes, it is not as comfortable as the CB650R, but not that uncomfortable by any means. For the smoothness of the engine, it is very smooth, also in low revs. But again, not as smooth as the CB650R. On a scale it would be much closer to a 4cyl than to a 2cyl engine. I didn't notice any more/less vibrations than on the CB650R. I mean, I haven't thought about vibrations until now, which means it's (at least in my opinion) nothing to worry about.
The power difference is pretty noticeable. The CB650R really gets going after 6k, the XSR feels like that after just 3k. After 7k, the XSR reealllly leaps forward.
I would say the CB650R's power is sufficient, but more in higher speeds. Since I live in Switzerland where there a lot of twisty roads and very restricted speed limits, I wanted something with more power on the low-end. That's basically why I sold the CB650R. I think the XSR900's power is almost too much here where I live, and let's say an XSR700 still would be enough for the roads here. Maybe I'll get an XSR700 as a second bike, but we'll see...
The build quality of the XSR900 is very good, but I'd say the Honda's is still a tiny bit better.
Hope that helps you a bit. Feel free to ask me more questions! The CB650R is still a very good bike with many advantages. It's just that I liked literally everything besides the engine (I mean I love the engine, but it's the fact that 2cyl and 3cyl bikes with their torque powerband down low are more fun here in Switzerland. But that's just my opinion).😄
@@MotoMacek Ah and the downside of the XSR is its maneuverability at very low speeds, because of its reallllly bad turning circle due to the longer distance between both wheels and the bad steering angle.
@@Pfannkuchenkanone Very helpful thank you so much!
@@Pfannkuchenkanone Good to know. Looks like I have to take one for a test ride soon :)
I did just under 35,000km in one year on my vuclan s. And it was my first year riding XD love it! Doesn't matter how much or little you ride, as long as you do :)
35.000km woooow that's great man! :D
I also really need to get a cbr650r to replace my 6 year old cb500f.
I've tested the cb650r, and it's a dream. I also think the stock pipe is good enough, i'd maybe only paint the metal cover black.
Stock tail tidy looks pretty solid imo, only the number plate light is a bit clonky.
I highly recommend a cooler-grill, stone chips an easily damage the cooler.
And if you want to make it look nicer, Highsider Montana (round) bar end mirrors would look great on the bike. If you flip them up you see more.
I just don't know if the Kawasaki zx4r is maybe more fun
Thank you for this well-rounded review! Even though there is an overflow of positive opinions on this bike as a beginner bike, still there are a lot of boomers who say you shouldn't start on a 650cc bike. I think it all comes down to your mentality about riding in general. Like you said, you have to respect the power of the machine and have common sense when it comes to speed.
Have you dumped your bike by the way? I saw you showing off the crashbars, I was wondering if as a beginner you had any issues with balancing your weight on this bike, or doing slow-speed maneuvers.
Not gonna lie I didn't wanna get the bike as a first bike but there really was no other option.. the 300-500 class is just sooo tiny for me.. felt like sitting on a BMX. Yeah the maturity level of the individual plays the biggest part here!
No, luckily I didn't have any issues balancing the bike around, never dropped the bike. I am always really careful, especially in slow speed traffic I laser focus on the situation.
Awesome video man, I love the bike!
As far as the tail tiny and the regulations in neighboring countries, I'd imagine if you could just keep the stock tail in your garage and then whenever you want to go out to Austria or another country that has more restrictions just replace the tail tiny with the stock tail. Hope this helps!
great video bro....I keep hearing this about chains. OK here a fact the chain will last a couple years depending on your riding. there self lubricated from factory eh so change it every couple years and don't bother oiling it or grease it will just flick that sticky stuff everywhere. front sprocket every two rear every 4 is what I do and never had an issue. happy biking!!
Beautiful scenery. Im from Australia (originally from Bosnia🇧🇦)riding a XSR700. Would love to ride through the Alp twisty roads :)
I got a cbr500r used for a first bike and it’s plenty for me. Our learner course here had 250cc adventure style bikes with off road tires. I found the 500 ride height was appropriate. The weight was a lot, but after a couple months I got used to it a fair bit. The power 0-60 is awesome, but I think I’d get this next. I want the 4cyl sounds.
The CB650R is a great choice! I don't think you will regret it :)
Great Review man!!😃
What a nice area to ride! You've got a lot of nice scenery!
This was my first season also and I did 3500km in 6 months, so for me 15000 km is a lot. I am starting from 2019 Yamaha Aerox 50cc, so long distance trips are almost impossible due to its small engine and availability of roads I can ride on. I got it brand new as Christmas gift, but i was a little lazy to do my drivers license 😅. I enjoyed this season. Greetings from Poland!
That's great! Have fun and stay safe on the Yamaha :D
Ive been riding for a year on the baby brother cb125r, i really want to upgrade do this one.
I commute on my XSR and it's kinda cold like 9C in the morning but leather jacket and reminder that rubber is not sticking in cold like it should on warm days. I will ride as long as I can and honestly riding at like 15 - 20C is so nice even on nakeds
Yeah 15-20c is still okay I think.. a bit chilly but its fine :)
Awesome video, perfectly detailed 🙌🥰
Thank you! :)
Thanks for the review man, very well done 🙌🏻
@@miguelpaulo1906 Thank you for the nice comment :)
Great video mate, I bought mine this year just like you in May, I am from Slovakia so the weather is pretty much the same as it is at you. I tought that I was riding so much I started to feel sad for the bike because I was using it at every opportunity, but looking at yours now I am not sure :D :o 15000 km is crazy, but its nice to see that you are enjoying it, I only did 5000 but there is still a bit time this year for riding :D
Congratulations on the bike brother! What can I say... it's just too much fun to ride haha 15.000km went by like nothing.. next year probably even more :D You guys have some beautiful nature and roads there, hopefully visiting next season on the CB !
@@MotoMacek You said that you need some recomendations for modifications, I allready did the tailtidy and changed the exhaust just as you mentioned, here are my tips for you:
For tail tidy I bought the one from Evotech. It is perfect easy to install there is a whole video step by step how to change it it is really easy to install took me about an 1 or so I can only recomend it. And looks great. You have to be careful with the things that you buy , you have to make sure that they are for the 2024 model because some things changed from the previous models especially with the exhaust.
The 2024 model has 2 o2 sensors in the exhaust not like the models before that has only 1, so the exhaust for the previous models are not compatible with the 2024 model. So there are not many options now for exhausts because the bike is so new, maybe next year there will be more.
For the exhaust I bought the : Ixil rc race xtreme it is a full system with down pipes, cat delete, no dbkillers it is a full straight pipe and everything, it is not homologised in this case not legal, in my contry the police dont realy care so I went with it for the sound. It was worth it , the bike sound mental 😂
I advise you no matter what exhaust you chose to take it to a professional shop to install, I installed mine at home and it didnt work, i did aroung 50km with the new exhaust and got a check engine, i took the bike to service yesterday and they told me that I installed is wrong, there was problems at the downpipes I didnt tighten the screws enough so it was leaking exhaust gases that caused the check engine, because these 2024 models are so sensitive to these exhaust values. So they remounted it fixed it, changed the copper O rings in the manifolds(which were nowhere told or adviced to be changed when purchasing the exhaust) and now it runs fine.
So my advice is that you can easily install the tailtidy at home but when changing the exhaust I would find professional help to avoid the headace 😉
@@janicsinter8970 Great advice! Thank you so much :) Yeah I'm still waiting for the exhausts to see what is going to be available next year :) Here the tail tidy and exhaust both have to be homologated sadly and in Austria it's even more strict.. the fines are very big if you get caught.
great video and bike.
which camera do you use? what is your camera settings?
I also bought my first bike in April, Svartpilen 401 and did 8000km until now
15k km is a lot for one year. Have you been doing road trips or just day rides? Good job.
Just day trips, always came back home that day :) Next year I will do some travelling tho !
The bike is vibrating a lot because you’re keeping the revs high by holding the bike in 2nd or 3rd gear for prolonged periods of your ride, when you should be in 5th or 6th. I would only go down to 2nd for a hairpin bend or small roundabout!
For my taste it lacks the power down low in order to use 5th or 6th gear frequently, it's perhaps the only reason why I'd exchange it for something bigger.
Hey man great bike , ride safe 🙏🏻 I’m planning to get the same model next year , what type of dual lock is that for the phone? And what accessories would you recommend as a beginner rider 😊
Great video!
Thank you for taking time to review and share your experience with us, i'm getting the E-CB650r soon wanna know if you had to buy this bike again? or u'll go with Z900 or mt-09 since its in the same budget range..
Now with my experience level I'd probably go for something stronger like the MT09 or the XSR900. But if I were at the same experience level again as last year I'd get the CB650R again in a hearbeat. It really is a great bike and I have zero regrets.
super video. heh pri 6 minuti, si pa pri globasnici. 😀 no lepo pot si izbral. je pa tudi tista proti klagenfurtu oziroma ferlachu lepa, če bi na križišču šel desno namesto levo proti Ž.Kapli
Hvala! Ja haha točno, brez skrbi tudi tja sem se že peljal, ponavadi furam od mejnega prehoda Šentilj do Soboth See in potem dalje za Klagenfurt in Villach pa potem dol v Kranjsko Goro :D Taka res lepa celodnevna fura
@@MotoMacek ja ja ta je res lepa turca 😄
I have to choose between cb650r with that new clutch, or the mt09. The xsr700 seems to be pretty nice as well. Hard decision…
If you are considering the MT09 then look at his retro brother the XSR900. It's the only bike I'd get after the CB650 :)
I put on 1000 km a week on my CBR650R for the first 6 weeks lol it was just too addicting
Hahahaha I know the feeling too well :D Enjoy and stay safe!
Have mine since August. And rode until now 4500 km. Idk how you have the stock exhaust ? xD I ordered my exhaust before i got the bike wtf. They sound rubish without exhaust
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after 15,000km do you still look back at it in awe the same way as day 1?
Absolutely, every single day!
I would leave the exhaust as it is. It's a waste of money and the stock one is pretty good.
I would also leave tail as it is. I have a tail tidy on my current motorcycle and when it rains, I get dirt thrown on my back.
Hello there! I have my CB650R 2024 for a month now 2000 km. I noticed some oxidation on the exhaust pipes that bothers me. Is yours like that? Cause I didn’t notice anything.
Generally the bike is awesome!
Hi! No I didn't notice any oxydation on my exhaust. But I will check and let you know if I see any soon :)
I got my motorcycle L plates here in Australia in August 2022 and I had 2 Learner legal bikes which i covered 21,000ks on up till November 2023 then i started riding my Harley on my full licence and i am 4 weeks shy of the 1 year anniversary of riding on my full license and the Harley is up to 18,000ks 😁ride and don't stop
18000km in a year, sheeeesh.
I've only done 12k since 2018, given I haven't been riding a lot the past 2 years :-(
But I've also maybe done 5 >100km tours sofar. I really only ride in the city or between towns.
Bro has an E30 🤯
Hi! Thanks you so much for you very good vidéo test. Im French I live in France and I hesitate about buy this bike. Im a Little tall 1m86 and I dont know if its a problem to drive with this bike. Its for driving everyday everytime in the Year to go at job. Summer or winter, Im going to drive every week every day. You think its good choice ?
Thanks you again !
Thank you. Like I said in the video im 194cm tall and have no problems on longer rides. Yes as a daily commuter to work kind of bike this is a good choice. It's very easy to ride in traffic at low speeds.
All rights thanks you so much
Thx for your advise. Did you have an issue over 150km/h. Mine cut the power with yellow engine light. The bike is eletricaly restricted, could it be the reason?
No issues whatsoever over 150kmh. I'd take it to the dealer if I were you and any yellow light appeared.
@ i also have this issue with the old cb650r last year, the seller said its cause by electronic restrictions without air admission. The restricted version is only sell like that in our country
Can you talk a bit about fuel comp.? Whats your average km/l?
5L/100km
I was driving CBR650R and it is very good. Normal driving, but not slow driving you can get under 4l/100km no problem. To go above 5l you have to rly push it or drive high rpms.
@@peterenis4752 Yes this was my experience too.. slow speeds 5th gear riding you can get under 4L no problem
Awasome thank you guys!
Considering the cb650r as my first bike cause I have to ride 3 times a week 200km on a highway, but I have to get it restricted for the first year. Is it suitable?
Yes if you are going to drive below 160kmh. Everything above 160kmh is very windy and difficult for such a long 200km ride.
I was test driving twice CBR650R and twice GSX-8R. For me suzuki have better meterial quality then honda. I could see way more marks at the cbr650r at the plastics and stuff.
Didn't try the GSX-8R. But I can say for sure that it's better than the Z650, Z900, SV650 and the MT07.
if i had this bike i'd change the exhaust once i leave the dealership hahahahahhaha
wait u still need a quickshifter with E-Clutch? doesn't it not need the clutch already?
Theres 2 models, one with the eclutch and one without. Personally im hoping to get the eclutch version. They've recently hit Australia and im so damn keen
Not sure why you drive so high rpms while normal driving without some significant acceleration You can even keep it around 3k. Fuel consumption gonna be way lower.
In city or traffic riding I ride in much lower RPMs.. but open country roads I just like to be higher up in the power, it's too much fun haha
After how many km do you clean the chain?
1500-2000km depending on how dirty it is.
Does it feel heavy moving around in the garage?
To me it does yeah but I'm not strong.
@@MotoMacek thanks for the reply, great video!
15.000 is a lot for 5months , thats for me 4years haha i ride 5months in one year and not every day one or 2 times a week
Why didint you take it with the e-clutch?
Because I'm a beginner and wanted my first bike to be a normal clutch bike so I can learn the traditional way. I know myself enough that I'd just bang the gears up and down with the E-Clutch because it's easier.
@@MotoMacek You can turn off e-clutch, and if you use the clutch manualy it turn of e-clutch for a while anyway.
@@peterenis4752 Yes but I know myself enough to know that I wouldn't do that and always take the easy path haha idk that's just me
is the speedo in kilometer per hour or miles per hour ??????
Kilometer :) I'm not going so fast, don't worry
Which country are you from?
Slovenia, but the POV footage is from Austria
Does it come with autoblip?
No, unfortunately it does not. Old school. Quickshifter works only up. Downshifts are all manual. I think the E-Clutch also does not have the autoblip.
@@MotoMacek It can not have autoblip as it do not have ride by wire throttle.
@@MotoMacek thanks man, I am planning to get my first bigbike and looking for something newbie friendly bikes. Ride safe..
@@peterenis4752 Yes exactly :)
@@Angkolicious Hopefully you find the right bike for you man and thanks :)
Location brother?
Eisenkappel in Austria
Does your butt get hot on the cb650r?
Never