This was so enlightening as to some of the downright bizarre design choices going on at this company lately. “why are there no vents on the fender?" He replies, “we didnt need one - this car is all about being true. What we dont need we dont put on”. Then, next question: “Inner edge integrated into the headlight cluster, does the inner edge serve any functional purpose?” He replies “No”. Lol.
The car might be true but his answers aren't. The reason you don't see the classic M design queue is cost cutting. What's "true" about needing a massive nonfunctional black vent with a reflector slapped into it?
This design is growing on me. But, seeing it, makes me love the prior Generation M2's even more. I have a feeling that those cars will be highly sought after as time goes on...
Yep the already are highly sought after. Even those older 1series 135i and 140i s with the N54,N55, or B58 straight six engine are already seen as enthusiasts cars.
What I heard: This box is boxy and if you look here we have boxes, and these boxes are fun. The lines and boxes make muscles. Another shape I like are squares, which are like flat boxes. This is all very iconic, and fun. Boxy muscles are geometric. Fun, playful and expressive is done with boxes. I love boxes and playing with boxes.
Man if I did such design back in the University i woulda failed every single design class, such a shame we moved from Fibonacci design in the F87 to Shoe Box design in the G87
you can't be everybody's darling - some love it, others hate it - I love it ! There is only one thing: If I could opt for analog dials, it would be perfekt :)
When I first saw the e46 and e39 I was immediately excited. It didn’t have to grow on me. For the new one, my visceral reaction is not as bad as it first was, I am getting used to the look.
Every time when there’s a design out of ordinary or ahead of its time, it will takes time to truly appreciate it. I like this design as well as the new m3. Enough of the old boring design. Better exterior and much much better interior than the previous gen.
@@apt62 I've owned BMW M-cars dating back from E36 M3 to the F87 M2. Sometimes there are (minor) things that take time to appreciate. However, it took me no time to appreciate the Emira, which I have on order. The latest BMW designs look like caricatures. I'm glad they're taking chances, but they need a better designer. Just a bunch of plastered on parts that don't go with one another.
I got mine after a 9-month wait this weekend, and it is also Toronto red over black interior. This car, in person, is gorgeous. Even the haters who talked about how ugly it is for months changed their tunes after seeing it. As far as driving experience, it's very different than the F87, but this car is AMAZING.
For sure. It's so easy to criticize someone's work. But these guys really put their heart into projects. And many times, the final design might not even be the original one. Lots of people have input and things change. I can tell you for sure that the taillights were different. You can see it on the 2 Series Coupe also in the sketches.
Even I really like your videos and opinions, I couldn’t watch this one to the end. As I’m a big fan of previous M2 gen. This new one is unfortunately hard to look at, hard to fall in love with. Like just a box on wheels, painted. 💔
It’s retro if your under 40 it’s probably not your thing. My hero car was an e30 m3 so this car appeals to me as it’s a modern nod to that era. Now add some m performance parts and it will be a classic. I bet they do a bigger deck lid spoiler like the e30.
Proud to see this concept coming to life. Bold design, well done BMW (not many manufacturers can do this!) and amazing to see José's work as a Mexican designer taking this one level up.
How did BMW get here? How?!?! Thank goodness I kept my M2C. BMW has totally lost their way. This to me is as bad as the Pontiac Aztec and Buick Rendezvous
This car would grow on people more favorably than g80/g82 m car as the time goes on. At least the horizontal / rectangular elements make this car wider and lower whereas the vertical front end of g80 and g82 makes the car feel taller and narrower than what it is. Last thing you want from a sports sedan is to make the car look narrower and taller than what it is. The key proportion, stance, and overall presence of this car is well done. It still is teutonic or bmw, particularly the execution of rear quarter panel, d pillar rear deck. It still is a M car, short front overhang, wheels to the corners, long dash to axle, a proper trunk deck thus a traditional coupe profile. People tends to focus and gravitate towards graphics and little details which can improve I agree. But they didn’t deviate far from previous M2 unlike G82 M4 particularly.
Guys I saw it now in real life and it is absolutly fantastic ! Trust me it looks so agressiv and wide. You cant compare a video with real life it looks so so much better. The light blue colour matches perfectly
Dope video and happy to see you celebrate this designer. It’s progression and I see a healthy homage/homenaje to the 2002 Turbo, E30 M3, and F82 1M. If you know, you know.
Sadly you are the only one who sees it, because even the designer doesnt see it, check @13:14 when he got asked the question "Are there any design queues that might have ended up in the M2". answer: "Not really". Case close.
Love the "3D boxiness" of this M2 iteration. The recessed kidneys as well as the "double power dome" rly gives the car an aggressive/sporty look. Massive all around widening(guess this was obligatory to fit the wider M4 front axle). I really prefer this over the M4 design.
It's so interesting how opinions are split. For every comment like this, I see someone that says the opposite :) It proves again we are all subjective when it comes to design.
i've had my '22 m240i for a year and I love it, I fell in love with the design, the taillights took a bit for me to get used to but now I don't even think about it. I really like this car, but I recently asked a dealer about getting into an M2 and they said the markup will be between $20k to $30k...and if I wanted to get on the list 🙄
@@joe718gt4 i tried three here in socal, this was last year in nov/dec... so I just bought an m4 from a different dealer. maybe the market has changed since, but i'm satisfied with the m4
@@apt62 none of the new designs look better. BMW sales are going to be damaged because of this. They aren't "ahead" of it's time. They are objectively bad in comparison to audi and Mercedes. Both competitors whose designs aren't nearly as poorly received as BMWs. Anyone that claims that their design is "ahead of it's time" is a conceited bastard who can't accept criticism. Just look at the views/likes of this video ( 7700/220 at the time of writing ). It's absolutely proof that the design isn't well received by the vast majority of viewers / customers. This is a troubling sign for any new car model. Regardless of brand.
The worst thing about the cars design for me is the line above the headlight due to the different bumper on the M2, the line doesn't flow and is gappy.
Excellent video as always, and loved the shots of the cars you were referring to during the interview. Other than the M channel, first video I'm watching even before the other petrol head YTers I follow. And well, I go in order of notifications hehe.
The first M2 that really caught my attention. Love the simple lines up front and back with the wide stance! I didn’t need a 2 door anymore but now I do! ///M2 💪
Looks strange, very different. At first I really did not like it, I’m not completely sure I like it now. But seems like the more I look at it, the cooler it gets.
Fascinating interview! Great to hear from him on some of the thinking behind what has been a very critcized design. Personally I'm somewhere inbetween ... I don't love it but I think a lot of criticism is overly harsh. Out of curiosity who was the F87's exterior designer?
This thing is horrendous. Glad to put a face to this terrible design. I bought the last production month of the f87. Had it on order was about to cancel until I saw the g42 reveal and gladly went f87. There’s no design cohesion between 2,3,4, and 5. There’s so much wrong with this design but some of the bigger items are why tf is there no side grill/vent? And what are those weird triangles on either side of the rear diffuser??
@@rosequartz2290 I don’t deny some people will like it. It’s just most repeat bmw customers probably won’t like myself. When I saw the f87 unveiled I immediately fell in love and started saving. This doesn’t do that to me but to each their own. Plus this things a tank at 3900lbs. How is the new m2 300+lbs heavier than the last gen m3?
This car would grow on people more favorably than g80/g82 m car as the time goes on. At least the horizontal / rectangular elements make this car wider and lower whereas the vertical front end of g80 and g82 makes the car feel taller and narrower than what it is. Last thing you want from a sports sedan is to make the car look narrower and taller than what it is. The key proportion, stance, and overall presence of this car is well done. It still is teutonic or bmw, particularly the execution of rear quarter panel, d pillar rear deck. It still is a M car, short front overhang, wheels to the corners, long dash to axle, a proper trunk deck thus a traditional bmw coupe profile. People tends to focus and gravitate towards graphics and little details which can improve I agree. But they didn’t deviate far from previous M2 unlike G82 M4 particularly.
@0:25 LoL!! The look on his face says it all. That's a true artist's body language. Thinks it's humurous that people don't like a design of theirs or have many questions as to why.
It’s as subjectively interesting as the One Series M. The previous M2 left me cold; Inoffensive, and uninspiring. If I get an allocation next year, I would choose Black Sapphire and Cognac interior with exterior shadowline.
Those headlights make no sense, the black hole right on the headlight looks like they’re completely blocked off and not even help with cooling at the slightest despite going with the same style as the grill, it literally just looks like eye piercing
No idea why people hate this car so much. This is what cars looked like before. Looks like a regular front. Do you want anything worst than those exaggerated massive grills BMW has been putting on all their new models? The M3 and M4 look hideous, you need to spend about $20k extra for an aftermarket kit to fix it. This car just went back to what a BMW front looked like with small kidney grills and normal headlights. To each his own I like that they dealt away with the huge grills.
This car looks like a caricature. From different angles it looks like a combination of different designs. I love the large haunches reminiscent of the E30 M3, but the front/rear just ruin it. Parts look nice/aggressive, but as an overall package it doesn't flow well for some reason.
Just way too overdone piecewise, but misses the entire point of essential design. Those rectangular blocks seemed to have taken a page out of Minecraft/Roblox/Legoland. There is no cohesiveness in the overall presentation. BMW design studio seems to be really lost lately; the G80/82, the XM, and now this. See how that front corner PDC sensor just seem to hang off the corner of that gaping square intake? Too much "afterthoughts" splattered all over the car. Sesat di hujung jalan, balik the pangkal jalan.
The front of the M240i looks much better. The M2 looks weird. Those black corner headlight elements are blah! And that tons of black at bottom of front bumper and lack of grill outline combined with it being black makes it even more weird looking.
My point was it being more the most aggressive M2. It may certainly be aggressive in some aspects, but definitely not more aggressive looking than the last generation.
Dodge look on the front, Samsung tv (with stand!) on the dash, $500 body kit all around. He needs to go look at some of the classic designs. It's brutally ugly.
I liked F87 already a lot. It's not easy to have a successor of already great looking car, but this one have that "something" which sets it apart in kinda good way. One of those card you don't like immediately, but once grown on you it never gets boring.
The new standard M2 2023 produce more at 460hp/687Nm torque 0 to 100 = 3.8s and M2 competition at 560hp/775Nm torque 0 to 100 = 3.0s the front hood should put carbon fibre at the bottom of hood to give less weight and inside the door carbon give less weight and the rear bonnet with inside carbon fibre give more less weight
@@bmwblog ua-cam.com/video/5uT4s_NWBN0/v-deo.html any questions? yes than 25:19 in that video is the answer! can't buy any BMWs now and have to stick to my current rather beautiful one. I'm a bmw fan, but this is the wrong direction!
@@bmwblog THIS is the better design M2 Vision GT ua-cam.com/video/xvjpagKFTM0/v-deo.html Send that video to this designer to he can learn how to make a good looking car
The car looks great from the front all the way back until you get to the rear end. Very strange rear of the car the sharp edges it reminds me of my Z4 M I owned sharp edges and remember that was a Chris Bangel design. And now his cars that he designed are very sought after so go figure , this car will be sought after in the future I say buy one
As far as I can tell from the public reaction as well as my own is that this is a design fail, no car especially an M car should be met with "shoe box on wheels, hideous, why!!!" and comments of that nature. This thing looks like Jose used to work at hyundai/kia and Subaru but forgot to disconnect and step into the "BMW realm". Not sure how long Jose (and team) have been designing BMW vehicles but I'm going to guess that he's been there for a few years now judging by what's happened to BMW design..... I'm sure it will grow on people, the front end anyway. I wish manufacturers listened to the end user and didn't just try make something which they like assuming everyone else will, no doubt this is some backwards underwhelming tactic to then release the facelift which will be marginally better in design but will be radically better in comparison.
Ah so this is the guy responsible for ruining the m2... it's a shocker that he can't even explain every poor decision in the new design. "yes let's slap some boxes and rectangles and call it innovative" I really hope he reads the bmw instagram comments and public opinions on it
It’s growing on me quickly. Much prefer this to the latest generation M3/M4, I still hate their kidney grills. I really like that this M2 has gone back to a boxier style, much more like the old BMWs of the 80s and 90s.
This was so enlightening as to some of the downright bizarre design choices going on at this company lately. “why are there no vents on the fender?" He replies, “we didnt need one - this car is all about being true. What we dont need we dont put on”.
Then, next question: “Inner edge integrated into the headlight cluster, does the inner edge serve any functional purpose?” He replies “No”. Lol.
Don’t forget the fake vents in the rear
The car might be true but his answers aren't. The reason you don't see the classic M design queue is cost cutting. What's "true" about needing a massive nonfunctional black vent with a reflector slapped into it?
The designer is just flat out dumb
The hood-to-bumper continuity is killing me!
Yet he put a lot of pointless shit on there.
This designer needs a slap
This design is growing on me. But, seeing it, makes me love the prior Generation M2's even more. I have a feeling that those cars will be highly sought after as time goes on...
Yep the already are highly sought after. Even those older 1series 135i and 140i s with the N54,N55, or B58 straight six engine are already seen as enthusiasts cars.
What I heard: This box is boxy and if you look here we have boxes, and these boxes are fun. The lines and boxes make muscles. Another shape I like are squares, which are like flat boxes. This is all very iconic, and fun. Boxy muscles are geometric. Fun, playful and expressive is done with boxes. I love boxes and playing with boxes.
Man if I did such design back in the University i woulda failed every single design class, such a shame we moved from Fibonacci design in the F87 to Shoe Box design in the G87
you can't be everybody's darling - some love it, others hate it - I love it ! There is only one thing: If I could opt for analog dials, it would be perfekt :)
@Micro of the Month
Spot on.
Looks like a car Minecraft
Intentional discontinuities in surfaces to create an after-market feel is not for me.
Besides all the negative comments on new bmw designs online we see these cars on the road regardless
oh crap, that thing looks better with its camouflage back on…😮
No way Jose
People are hating but I freaking love it. It honestly gives me 22b vibes while in zandvoort blue.
thank you Jose and team for making my classic BMW go up in value with your hideous modern designs.
When I first saw the e46 and e39 I was immediately excited. It didn’t have to grow on me.
For the new one, my visceral reaction is not as bad as it first was, I am getting used to the look.
Every time when there’s a design out of ordinary or ahead of its time, it will takes time to truly appreciate it. I like this design as well as the new m3. Enough of the old boring design. Better exterior and much much better interior than the previous gen.
@@apt62 nah
@@apt62 I've owned BMW M-cars dating back from E36 M3 to the F87 M2. Sometimes there are (minor) things that take time to appreciate. However, it took me no time to appreciate the Emira, which I have on order. The latest BMW designs look like caricatures. I'm glad they're taking chances, but they need a better designer. Just a bunch of plastered on parts that don't go with one another.
THE F87 STILL MISS UNIVERSE 🥇👑
He has beat up honda
I got mine after a 9-month wait this weekend, and it is also Toronto red over black interior. This car, in person, is gorgeous. Even the haters who talked about how ugly it is for months changed their tunes after seeing it. As far as driving experience, it's very different than the F87, but this car is AMAZING.
You're right on the driving experience, different, not necessary bad. We were just on the track with the new M2 and F87 M2 CS
I really enjoyed the candid talk at the end. Always interesting to get into the mind of these designers a little. Great interview H!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Looks like it has tumours, the entire design team should be fired and start over
I agree...but I ordered one anyway.
love it, provocative , new, different, creates turmoil, AND functional, will be greatly appreciated in 10 years
He should have worn his glasses when he designed it.
Jose was an excellent interview. You can see his passion.
For sure. It's so easy to criticize someone's work. But these guys really put their heart into projects. And many times, the final design might not even be the original one. Lots of people have input and things change. I can tell you for sure that the taillights were different. You can see it on the 2 Series Coupe also in the sketches.
@@bmwblog Passion yes, talent no.
i mean bmw should fire thi dude, he is killing the 2 series
I'm sorry, but this design is atrocious.
Even I really like your videos and opinions, I couldn’t watch this one to the end. As I’m a big fan of previous M2 gen. This new one is unfortunately hard to look at, hard to fall in love with. Like just a box on wheels, painted. 💔
That's one UGLY design, F87 M2 will just keep going up in value.
"It's a box design" yeah it looks like a box left in the rain and kicked around
A year later, are we not in love with this g87? I am. ❤
It’s retro if your under 40 it’s probably not your thing. My hero car was an e30 m3 so this car appeals to me as it’s a modern nod to that era. Now add some m performance parts and it will be a classic. I bet they do a bigger deck lid spoiler like the e30.
The more i see the car, the more i like it.
no
@@xerexon2k oh yes
@@dfischer1980 ua-cam.com/video/5uT4s_NWBN0/v-deo.html
Fire him. Design is such a let down…
He had one job and he blew it!
I disagree. I feel like he did a fantastic job. The car looks like a BMW. It has all the typical BMW trademarks
Its a lazy design. Lines just come out of no where. That front end looks like it just hit a wall. Lost of words
Proud to see this concept coming to life. Bold design, well done BMW (not many manufacturers can do this!) and amazing to see José's work as a Mexican designer taking this one level up.
How did BMW get here? How?!?! Thank goodness I kept my M2C. BMW has totally lost their way. This to me is as bad as the Pontiac Aztec and Buick Rendezvous
Nice to know the philosophy of the design
This car would grow on people more favorably than g80/g82 m car as the time goes on. At least the horizontal / rectangular elements make this car wider and lower whereas the vertical front end of g80 and g82 makes the car feel taller and narrower than what it is. Last thing you want from a sports sedan is to make the car look narrower and taller than what it is. The key proportion, stance, and overall presence of this car is well done. It still is teutonic or bmw, particularly the execution of rear quarter panel, d pillar rear deck. It still is a M car, short front overhang, wheels to the corners, long dash to axle, a proper trunk deck thus a traditional coupe profile. People tends to focus and gravitate towards graphics and little details which can improve I agree. But they didn’t deviate far from previous M2 unlike G82 M4 particularly.
I think the host said it all at 5:42 with: “Very interesting”.
I love that wheel design.
Guys I saw it now in real life and it is absolutly fantastic ! Trust me it looks so agressiv and wide. You cant compare a video with real life it looks so so much better. The light blue colour matches perfectly
Agreed. Always best to see it in real life
@@bmwblog which colour would you choose? I will order one in 2024 hope with 21 inch wheels on the back and 20 inch front by then.
@@Sldn5 they don't offer 21 inch.
@@bmwblog they will in the future. In a few months or a year there will be an Option for 21 + 20
Dope video and happy to see you celebrate this designer. It’s progression and I see a healthy homage/homenaje to the 2002 Turbo, E30 M3, and F82 1M. If you know, you know.
We always like to get the designer's perspective on the car. He or she is always in best position to explain the ideas behind the car
Sadly you are the only one who sees it, because even the designer doesnt see it, check @13:14 when he got asked the question "Are there any design queues that might have ended up in the M2". answer: "Not really". Case close.
Great review! Any plans on individual colors choices? If so when?
In the future likely. No timeline
Love the "3D boxiness" of this M2 iteration. The recessed kidneys as well as the "double power dome" rly gives the car an aggressive/sporty look. Massive all around widening(guess this was obligatory to fit the wider M4 front axle). I really prefer this over the M4 design.
It's so interesting how opinions are split. For every comment like this, I see someone that says the opposite :) It proves again we are all subjective when it comes to design.
@@bmwblog there are alot of hormones pumped into the water supply, stick with your gut instinct on this, its ugly
Aggressive/sporty should not belong in the same sentence as the m2. Not the g body at least…. A lego car over a M4. Interesting…..
where’s the french people to revolt when we need them. -Jeremy Clarkson
This M2 is was a better engine than a new C63 Amg, that is suppose to be in a superior class...!!!
i've had my '22 m240i for a year and I love it, I fell in love with the design, the taillights took a bit for me to get used to but now I don't even think about it. I really like this car, but I recently asked a dealer about getting into an M2 and they said the markup will be between $20k to $30k...and if I wanted to get on the list 🙄
I would just wait. No point paying that much markup
@@bmwblog yep indeed, i still got two more years on the lease so i'll wait... that markup is insane tho!
There should be plenty of dealers out there with much less or zero markup
@@joe718gt4 i tried three here in socal, this was last year in nov/dec... so I just bought an m4 from a different dealer. maybe the market has changed since, but i'm satisfied with the m4
6th in line at my dealer - stoked !
What color?
@@bmwblog either TR or ZB. Can’t decide
Hey guys you guys are always on point with your reviews keep it up
Much appreciated! We will
I'm so happy that I own the previous gen. 2018 LCI. The best looking M2 imo. Going to keep it for a long time.
New one looks so much better, every time when there’s a design too ahead of its time, it will take some time for consumer to truly appreciate.
@@apt62 none of the new designs look better. BMW sales are going to be damaged because of this. They aren't "ahead" of it's time. They are objectively bad in comparison to audi and Mercedes. Both competitors whose designs aren't nearly as poorly received as BMWs. Anyone that claims that their design is "ahead of it's time" is a conceited bastard who can't accept criticism. Just look at the views/likes of this video ( 7700/220 at the time of writing ). It's absolutely proof that the design isn't well received by the vast majority of viewers / customers. This is a troubling sign for any new car model. Regardless of brand.
@@apt62 you're objectively wrong.
Yawn. This G87 M2 is actually inspiring and will be a classic like the E88 One Series M IMO.
@@ProjectFairmont anyone that says "yawn" in comments can be safely discarded into the retard bin.
"expressive, true" = boxes, "simplify, playful" = combine elements into one
Just another ugly car from the m division. The front looks like it had hit the wall and squished flat
On top of that, the proportions are all wrong. Stop trying to break the design rules for the sake of it! So disappointing
i love the m2 very much its just the bumper
The worst thing about the cars design for me is the line above the headlight due to the different bumper on the M2, the line doesn't flow and is gappy.
this guy sunk the G87, what a clown LMAO
Excellent video as always, and loved the shots of the cars you were referring to during the interview. Other than the M channel, first video I'm watching even before the other petrol head YTers I follow. And well, I go in order of notifications hehe.
Glad you enjoyed it!
The first M2 that really caught my attention. Love the simple lines up front and back with the wide stance! I didn’t need a 2 door anymore but now I do! ///M2 💪
Low key flex with the Travis Scott Nikes
Ooops :) I need to bring more heat out, some Off-White Chicagos and Union Jordan 1
Looks strange, very different. At first I really did not like it, I’m not completely sure I like it now. But seems like the more I look at it, the cooler it gets.
Definitely easier to get used to than the G8x. I do like the side profile, has that E30 curve at the rear
Made the M2 look like an old Nissan.
Fascinating interview! Great to hear from him on some of the thinking behind what has been a very critcized design. Personally I'm somewhere inbetween ... I don't love it but I think a lot of criticism is overly harsh. Out of curiosity who was the F87's exterior designer?
Glad you enjoyed it! The F87 was done by Hussain Al-Attar. He did a lot of BMWs in the last few years
The designer can’t describe the design …
Yes he can... It´s a house and he´s the best civil engineering you will ever see! how come you didnt notice! shame on you....
Feels like he just regurgitates marketing words
This thing is horrendous. Glad to put a face to this terrible design. I bought the last production month of the f87. Had it on order was about to cancel until I saw the g42 reveal and gladly went f87. There’s no design cohesion between 2,3,4, and 5. There’s so much wrong with this design but some of the bigger items are why tf is there no side grill/vent? And what are those weird triangles on either side of the rear diffuser??
All square up front with triangles in rear. Not comprehending this design fully.
I like it
@@rosequartz2290 I don’t deny some people will like it. It’s just most repeat bmw customers probably won’t like myself. When I saw the f87 unveiled I immediately fell in love and started saving. This doesn’t do that to me but to each their own. Plus this things a tank at 3900lbs. How is the new m2 300+lbs heavier than the last gen m3?
This car would grow on people more favorably than g80/g82 m car as the time goes on. At least the horizontal / rectangular elements make this car wider and lower whereas the vertical front end of g80 and g82 makes the car feel taller and narrower than what it is. Last thing you want from a sports sedan is to make the car look narrower and taller than what it is. The key proportion, stance, and overall presence of this car is well done. It still is teutonic or bmw, particularly the execution of rear quarter panel, d pillar rear deck. It still is a M car, short front overhang, wheels to the corners, long dash to axle, a proper trunk deck thus a traditional bmw coupe profile. People tends to focus and gravitate towards graphics and little details which can improve I agree. But they didn’t deviate far from previous M2 unlike G82 M4 particularly.
@@Alex-or7hu S58 now instead of the S55 in the F87, more electronics, etc.
I can't believe! 😧
this designer needs to be fired.
@0:25 LoL!! The look on his face says it all. That's a true artist's body language. Thinks it's humurous that people don't like a design of theirs or have many questions as to why.
It’s as subjectively interesting as the One Series M. The previous M2 left me cold; Inoffensive, and uninspiring. If I get an allocation next year, I would choose Black Sapphire and Cognac interior with exterior shadowline.
If the Toyota Supra is German inspired JDM - the new M3 is JDM inspired German design. I like it.
looks like an aftermarket body kit instead of oem design
Those headlights make no sense, the black hole right on the headlight looks like they’re completely blocked off and not even help with cooling at the slightest despite going with the same style as the grill, it literally just looks like eye piercing
I love this car❤
Jose needs a new tailor.
+ Flawless powertrain
+ Badass design
- Heavy
Most new cars are heavy, unavoidable unfortunately.
other car companies are watching this to make sure they never hire this man.
No idea why people hate this car so much. This is what cars looked like before. Looks like a regular front. Do you want anything worst than those exaggerated massive grills BMW has been putting on all their new models? The M3 and M4 look hideous, you need to spend about $20k extra for an aftermarket kit to fix it. This car just went back to what a BMW front looked like with small kidney grills and normal headlights. To each his own I like that they dealt away with the huge grills.
Well done BMW M. I’m looking forward to the CS variant.
This car looks like a caricature. From different angles it looks like a combination of different designs. I love the large haunches reminiscent of the E30 M3, but the front/rear just ruin it. Parts look nice/aggressive, but as an overall package it doesn't flow well for some reason.
Awful design which is such a shame because the previous generation m2 was one of the best looking bmw ever build!
Just way too overdone piecewise, but misses the entire point of essential design. Those rectangular blocks seemed to have taken a page out of Minecraft/Roblox/Legoland. There is no cohesiveness in the overall presentation. BMW design studio seems to be really lost lately; the G80/82, the XM, and now this. See how that front corner PDC sensor just seem to hang off the corner of that gaping square intake? Too much "afterthoughts" splattered all over the car.
Sesat di hujung jalan, balik the pangkal jalan.
The front of the M240i looks much better. The M2 looks weird. Those black corner headlight elements are blah! And that tons of black at bottom of front bumper and lack of grill outline combined with it being black makes it even more weird looking.
Unfortunately a design fail
This designer is a fraud and way out of his depth. He can't even articulate his own design choices.
I love the design of this M2. I consider getting one in the near future.
Awful , i would not pay for such a ugly looking car . Dont care how fast it can go . Bloody awful
Now I know why it looks so...New design team want to prove to their boss that they are actually working instead of fxxx around.
Great video. So much negativity but I think it looks great and you can tell the designer has passion. I also like my 23 M240.
Thanks 👍 Glad you enjoyed it
I'm trying very hard to like the design.
All the other videos I keep hearing “this is the most aggressive looking M2”
WHO IS TELLING THEM THIS LOOKS AGGRESSIVE??!?!?
It does look aggressive. Either we like the design or not. It is def not a soft design
My point was it being more the most aggressive M2. It may certainly be aggressive in some aspects, but definitely not more aggressive looking than the last generation.
Dodge look on the front, Samsung tv (with stand!) on the dash, $500 body kit all around. He needs to go look at some of the classic designs. It's brutally ugly.
I liked F87 already a lot. It's not easy to have a successor of already great looking car, but this one have that "something" which sets it apart in kinda good way. One of those card you don't like immediately, but once grown on you it never gets boring.
This design has just sent me over to the RS3, I’ll buy the previous M2 Comp. and keep it as a memento. The new BMW’s have lost their identity…
What’s up with him and boxs
The new standard M2 2023 produce more at 460hp/687Nm torque 0 to 100 = 3.8s and M2 competition at 560hp/775Nm torque 0 to 100 = 3.0s
the front hood should put carbon fibre at the bottom of hood to give less weight and inside the door carbon give less weight and the rear bonnet with inside carbon fibre give more less weight
The front of the car looks like an old Dodge avenger. Very unattractive.
It’s a BEAST!!! 👍
XDDDDDD
Exactly 💯
imagine going around selling yourself based on the country you were born in and then designing the ugliest M car in 40 years.
Look forward Jose Casas leaves BMW. F87 is such a beauty compared to that box.
Why would he? He also designed this car, so he's clearly talented ua-cam.com/video/y7Cu1Eaf6go/v-deo.html
@@bmwblog ua-cam.com/video/5uT4s_NWBN0/v-deo.html any questions? yes than 25:19 in that video is the answer! can't buy any BMWs now and have to stick to my current rather beautiful one. I'm a bmw fan, but this is the wrong direction!
@@bmwblog THIS is the better design
M2 Vision GT ua-cam.com/video/xvjpagKFTM0/v-deo.html
Send that video to this designer to he can learn how to make a good looking car
The car looks great from the front all the way back until you get to the rear end. Very strange rear of the car the sharp edges it reminds me of my Z4 M I owned sharp edges and remember that was a Chris Bangel design. And now his cars that he designed are very sought after so go figure , this car will be sought after in the future I say buy one
Everything looks Great BUT the rear and front BUMPERS 🤮🤮 …I love my M340i
At least it doesn’t have that ugly grille. What the heck were your engineers thinking?
Epic…
The front I think I can get used to, but that rear...
These designers are such bullshitters...
As far as I can tell from the public reaction as well as my own is that this is a design fail, no car especially an M car should be met with "shoe box on wheels, hideous, why!!!" and comments of that nature.
This thing looks like Jose used to work at hyundai/kia and Subaru but forgot to disconnect and step into the "BMW realm". Not sure how long Jose (and team) have been designing BMW vehicles but I'm going to guess that he's been there for a few years now judging by what's happened to BMW design.....
I'm sure it will grow on people, the front end anyway. I wish manufacturers listened to the end user and didn't just try make something which they like assuming everyone else will, no doubt this is some backwards underwhelming tactic to then release the facelift which will be marginally better in design but will be radically better in comparison.
Ah so this is the guy responsible for ruining the m2... it's a shocker that he can't even explain every poor decision in the new design. "yes let's slap some boxes and rectangles and call it innovative" I really hope he reads the bmw instagram comments and public opinions on it
The designer should get fired.
It’s growing on me quickly. Much prefer this to the latest generation M3/M4, I still hate their kidney grills. I really like that this M2 has gone back to a boxier style, much more like the old BMWs of the 80s and 90s.
Love this design. Reminds me of my E36 ///M3 but on steroids.
Well done Casas!