The Fall of the Dwemer - Ancient Advanced Civilization - Elder Scrolls Lore
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In our latest Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim video we delve into the Deep Elves, the Dwemer.
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The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim is an open world action role-playing video game developed by Bethesda Game Studios and published by Bethesda Softworks. It is the fifth main installment in The Elder Scrolls series, following The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, and was released worldwide for Microsoft Windows, PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 on November 11, 2011.
The game's main story revolves around the player character and their quest to defeat Alduin the World-Eater, a dragon who is prophesied to destroy the world. The videogame is set two hundred years after the events of Oblivion, and takes place in the fictional province of Skyrim. Over the course of the game, the player completes quests and develops the character by improving skills. The game continues the open world tradition of its predecessors by allowing the player to travel anywhere in the game world at any time, and to ignore or postpone the main storyline indefinitely.
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but what about the droid attack on the wookies
@Steven Universe
and what about this is ''Gaaaayyy!''
@Jim Pickens holy shit! it's jim pickens, didn't know any call me kevin fans watched fudgemuppet.
Wrong franchise ki-adi -mundi this be elder scrolls not star wars mate
@@vexile12
there are Star Wars references in both Oblivion and Skyrim i would say its appropriate to to show my care for the wookies in this comment section
he cares about the wookies! A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.
They all died falling off those walkways with no railings 600 feet in the air.
😂😂👍
OSHA took them out
I have no idea how blind Falmer are able to navigate those paths hH
Twiggafinga
The straightest survive.
Otherwise they turn a bit and fall to their death.
FUS RO DAH!
The Dwemer discovered console commands
Sooo are we in reality the Dwemer of tamerial who lost all technology when we got transported to earth and in the last 250 years w were finaly capable of realizing our former glory........ a theory for another day.
Kova 15 hey you! You’re finally awake! .....Dwemer: ahh ffs!
Someone typed ~killall
@@Ninja_S1000RR-R HAHAHAHAHA Best command ever when you know you are gonna die lol
@@theowl6548 that actually is a pretty good idea...
Dwarves in other fiction: drunken hotheaded fat short people with axes
Dwarves in Elder Scrolls: high tech mesopotamian style steampunk elves and aren't even short
Ay Golden Axe was a good game too tho
For all you know they were high tech, steampunk elves that were also drunken hotheads.
@@zixx844 considering they literally found the heart of a dead god and their first response was to poke it and see what happens, probably.
Dwarves in Warhammer: drunk hotheaded fat short people with grudges
Are they really Dwarves at this point
I love how the dwemer were able to create living machines and were on the brink of making a god, and yet they couldnt figure out railings
My headcanon is that the Falmer took out all the railings to make the Dwemer's cities into better traps
The Dwemer are smart enough to no walk off the edge
I've always assumed it used to be rope or chains because some ruins have little spots along the bridges that look like it would've held that.
@@alexv3357 Falmer actually created their own railings as seen in this video. So they probably hated that Dwemer didn't have them, too.
@@dasik84falmer probably needed it more, on account of their, uh, eyeslight
The Dwemer became self aware of their fictional identity and lost the will to continue.
@Lee Gou well anti-CHIM would be assuming yourself to be the godhead, I expect, and assuming that you are the only real being in a universe of fictional nothingness.
Lee Gou it’s depression
Or they achieved CHIM. That's why it's a mystery. They could be foward in time, in a realm of oblivion, anti chim, chim, azura destroyed them. Who knows. Its all theories and if someone actually claims they found a book with answers they are lying
So they zero summed
@@jolonghthong5377 If they zero summed there would be no trace of them. A complete erasure of the entirety of the history of the dwemer.
R.I.P. DJ Kagrenac
"Too lit for existance"
😎
He didn't die. He ascended to the greatest rave on some Oblivion plane.
Straight Outta Nirn (Strictly For My Dwemer)
DJ Khaled Suffering from Success
hahah this is probably the best comment I ever read!!
You realize you should ascent to godhood for this comment
5:54
Based Dwemer DESTROYS and OBLITERATES petty SURFACE DWELLING snow elf with FACTS and LOGIC [EPIC STYLE]
Too underrated needs more likes.
Ben Shapiro was the first king of the dwemer
I love how they pepper in some memes in their videos.
Not liking the tone here, guys. It all sounds awfully anti-dwemitic.
Ben Shapiro knows where the Dwemer are... ישראל
How the other races interact with Dwemer tech reminds me of how humanity interact with the Protomolecule in the Expanse, “Give a monkey a microwave, to them, if they push a button and a light turns on, it’s a lamp, push another one, and put your hand inside, if it gets burnt, it becomes a weapon, we keep pushing buttons trying to figure it out, but no monkey ever reheating a frozen burrito”
It’s awesome to see fellow fans of The Expanse in a Skyrim video comment section. And judging by the number of likes there’s a lot of us here!
Dwemer: "Kagrenac...what's that you got there?"
Kagrenac: "S'the heart of a dead god. Imma poke it."
Dwemer: "Don't do tha..."
..............
Yep, hit the nail on the head as far as I'm concerned xD
Best not to fiddle with things that have the power to alter reality, even if "logically" poking it with a stick could be interesting
somewhere in another plane of existance
Dwemer: THIS IS WHY I SAID DON"T DO THAT YOU PUTZ!
Kagrenac: ....sorry my bad...
Dwemer:"Mr. Kagrenac...I don't feel so good."
I laughed more than I should have.
Fuck it they might be in the future, they gonna come out of nowhere in TES 6 during the second great war with the Autocannon, kill the whole dominion then be like "fuuuuck them there's bigger shit coming" lol on some unclimactic game of thrones shit
Why has no one asked Hermaeus what happened to the dwemer?
Sounds like something he would put in his largest black book.
Because he wouldn't just tell you, he would put it in book that made you insane if you read it
It’d be scary as hell if someone did and he just said “I don’t know”
If the literal God of Knowledge and fate has no idea as to what might have happened to them, it’d probably be best for everything and everyone that we never find out.
I mean, it wouldn't be a huge stretch that he wouldn't know. remember, the skaal hid their secrets from him for generations, and there was nothing he could do.
hmm nice one bro, crossed my mind but never take it seriously.. how come hema-mora can simply say i dunno lol
When you talk to Falion in skyrim to cure your vampirism, he recalls how he has travelled to other worlds and plains of existence. he speaks of meeting with Daedra and Dwemer alike, if he's to be believed it suggests that the Dwemer didn't exactly 'zero-sum' but mas trans-located to another dimension.
They disappeared because they used lorkhan's heart wrong way.
Only the dwemer on mundus disappeared all those on other planes did not disappear
That and The Atherial Staff are evidence for the theory that The Dwemer are trapped in a plan of Oblivion
Dwarves were isekai'd
I think the Dwemer are going to return, especially with how much emphasis they had in ES5
Dwemer Scholar: “Facts don’t care about your feelings.”
Gods: “History won’t care about your disappearance.”
Dwemer Scholar: “Master... I don’t feel so good...”
Ben Shapiro triggered
@@SayanDasezioauditore I'll do you one better: if the gods made the world, they made the facts, and if they don't like what the Dwemeri "facts" were, doesn't that make them, the Dwarves, wrong?
Emily the Slayer of mgtow men what does that have to do with ES lore 😂😂
@Emily the Slayer of mgtow men many doctors hold drills and crush the skulls of babies heads....watch an abortion if you can stomach it
@Emily the Slayer of mgtow men Ben Shapiro thinks you can sell a house sunken in the ocean
If the Dwemer were so goddam advanced then they would have at least put railings along all those high walkways! Just a little bit of thought application to health and safety would have saved me many a mis-hap! XD
You’d also think that they’d find a better surface to sleep on than stone. Alas, the Dwemer were not that clever.
the one thing they never thought of
@@mousetrap773 Well, since matresses and beds are organic and stne isn't it might have been possible that those materials have rotted away or used/eaten? byt the falmer.
wu1ming9shi - still doesn’t explain why the modern citizens of Markarth still choose to use those stone beds. Something tells me the citizens of the Reach aren’t the most intelligent...
@@mousetrap773 Well, I always assumed they used those furs for it...and nothing else to protect against the cold apparently? Well, according to daggerfall nords are supposed to be 100% immune to ice damage, so it would be too hot with it? XD
"Septimus Signus is duller than the dullest of dwemer children"
-Septimus Signus
“But he is but an idiot child compared to the dullest of dwemer.”
Plot twist
The dwemer used tonal architecture to turn themselves into the music you hear in game.
And honestly? That's as good an explanation as any.
Jeremy Soule is a dwemer indeed living on another dimension
"By the eight"
> Eight
Excuse me, I need to go on a crusade.
SKYRIM BELONGS TO THE NORDS
jimjam 55 SKYRIM IS PART OF THE EMPIRE
@@calebpiatt2691 PUPPET OF THE THALMOR
Just revive pelinal and point him to the knife ears
@@calebpiatt2691 SKYRIM BELONGS TO THE NORDS x2
Oh yeah? If the Dwemer were so good, why isn’t there a Dwemer 2?
There is a movie about them ??
The best don’t need a sequel!
Nailed it the first time
@@bobhope6750 Yes, didn't you know?
I feel like this comment doesn’t have the amount of likes it deserves
19:36 So he built a *gauntlet* to harness the power of a magical *stone.* Where have I heard that one before?
Made by a dwarf too 😆
So Thanos blipped the Dwemer?
Kagrenac: *snaps*
@@sheepkind Dwemer: *Looks at a dunmer on the battlefield* I don't feel so good you unnadvanced evolution of the chimer...
The three tools of Kagrenac were basically just Thumb; Palm; and Middle Finger; a sacred construct to *snap* yourself out of existence.
"I'm not a gnelf, I'm not a gnoblin, I'm a gnome and You've been gnomed" last words of the last dwemer
A dwarf, high elf, and wood elf walk into a bar.
The high elf and wood elf hit their heads.
What
@@Leavemynamealoneyoutubeyadog bcause dwemer is the shortest
@@mr.nobody896 what the fuck how didn't I get that
@@Leavemynamealoneyoutubeyadog Bro life is so bad rn ;(;(
@@elliswrigley4570 what
8:47 Okay, you've made me chuckle a bit.
Damn, you're right!
"his [DJ Kagrenac] remix of the song was so f*cking lit that the whole race ceased to exist!"
D J K A G R E N A C
This needs to to top comment
Brad DeLay We da best architects
L I T
The dwemer: spends lifetimes building oral hypnosis machines with Tonal architecture and magic.
A dragonborn, using his mouth: Hold my beer
"But our brethren, the Dwemer, scorned the Daedra, and mocked our foolish rituals, and preferred instead their gods of Reason and Logic."
―Vivec
Advanced?
*Uses No Railings and Stone Beds*
They didn't need soft beds? Maybe they weren't stupid enough for railings? Maybe they were considered to be "Natural Selection"?
@@Zeivusgaming it's not about being soft for its own sake, it's about usefulness such as mobility and adjustment)
In Morrowind you see metal bed frames in the Dwemer ruins.
Well anything soft on the bed may have disintegrated over the thousands of years
Remember they made the falmer go blind? Maybe it was to fuck with them even more lmao
A cool theory is that the Dwemer had found a way to create portals into other dimensions and thus all mysteriously disappeared. This could be an explanation to how it is possible to summon dwarven spiders and spheres with the aetherium staff, as they do not have souls and so wouldn't be able to be summoned regularly. Maybe the staff creates a portal into these other dimensions to summon a spider or sphere.
That was my theory too , guess the game kinda hints at that too
"His song was so f^cking lit, that the entire race ceased to exist."
The *best* way I have heard the demise of the Dwemer phrased.
Not that I miss those diggy bois. Just look at the Falmer; if they can do atrocious actions so easily, *all* of Tamriel should be glad they are gone.
I find it kind of poetic to see how what was left of the Dwemer were their actions and what that tells us about them. They most likely didnt see the subjucation of the snowelves as a big part of their history but now thats the thing that is left of them. Showing what kind of people they really were.
"Complex oral hypnosis"
I like where this is going.
I would love to see an Elder Scrolls game that takes place when the Dwemer and Snow elves were still around. Maybe one that would include them as playable races.
yeah and sea elves too love the sea elves
@@captainzoltan7737 Sea Elves are still around being pirates and explorers
@@CoffeeSuccubus yeah they still exist but not around tamirel, after the pysjic order fucked them up in the second /or first era they haven't really shown up.
Todd says no, you'll get some online only gimmick bullshit and like it
@@captainzoltan7737 there are sea elves in ESO
Hello from California.
Also, the dwemer are still alive, just in another plane of existence. The proof: the Aetherial staff(pretty sure I butchered the spelling) summons dwemer machines. In order to summon something it must be on another plane of existence, which is why you can’t summon mundane items and people to you, as you are both already on Nirn. If the machines are in another plane, they had to be put there by someone or made there. From Morrowind, we know that dwemer who were in another plane were not effected by the events of The Battle of Red Mountain. If they were building or storing machines in another plane, the dwemer there would still be alive and well, though most likely barred from returning to Nirn due to what Kagrenac did with the heart of Lorkan.
NButler1993 what happened to the heart and how is it related to the dwemer?? I’m new to the lore
Hey its actually a nice theory
Hurbii he explains it towards the end of the video, but basically Kagrenac hit Lorkans heart with a magic hammer in order to turn his race immortal but ended up making all of them disappear from Nirn altogether.
@@Im-Not-a-Dog Do you watch Nate's videos?
@@mcrettable Tl;dr version, heart was used by dwemer, they disappeared, used by the tribunal of Morrowind to become gods, and by their ennemy to powerup a mechanical god, but they're gone too (events of ES:Morrowind), and now its whereabouts are unknown.
Dwemers after poking the literal heart of god: i don’t feel so good
So I have a theory
What if the reason the other races stumble across the Dwemer with such advanced technology and cities was because at their disappearance they were teleported back in time (in kind of a reverse Alduiin situation) and are forever stuck in this loop?
But then where did the dwemer themselves go?
@@DanTheMan-vn5sf back in time? I literally said it in my comment
Dakota Winter ik but then we would see the dwemer today is what I’m saying dumbass
@@DanTheMan-vn5sf You don't know Dwemer history at all do you? They all disappeared after they struck Lorkhan's heart with Kagrenac's tools and all of them, except one that was in oblivion at the time, disappeared. Some of the only real lore we've been given about them is that they were already established in Morrowind and Skyrim by the time the High Elves started exploring mainland Tamriel.
Dakota Winter ik but if they got transported back in time that’s we see what they left behind then the dwemer wouldn’t went back with them and continued on as if everything was normal . Unless only they stuff went back and not themselves
They need to make an Elder Scrolls which takes place during the Dwemer reign. The Dwemer alone makes Elder Scrolls lore interesting.
Yea we will get it.. in 2050
@@BB-pb3hv by that time, we will become dwemers ourselves 😭
@@NutBuster99 damn ain't this the truth.....✋😫✊
For sure, I'm new to skyrim and stumbled across dwemer ruins. You can imagine my surprise when I essentially saw robots and actually technology in what seemed like a completely medieval setting. I was like wtf are robots doing here it felt so weird but interesting. It kept me asking how they did this while exploring the place.
only so we can slaughter them. Horrible race of elves
The Dwemer may have worshipped, or otherwise venerated, the Daedric Prince of Order, Jyggalag. I say this as he was so obscure among mortals as to be unknown, and above all other things, he stood for logic and reason, therefore an efficient, intelligent mind that strives toward perfection would not only feel compelled to do so, albeit in a more scholarly way than a religious one, but would also win at least a small (yet precise) measure of his favour (while he was himself, at least). As such, it might be he who gifted the Dwemer with their magical abilities, and perhaps some knowledge, too. This might explain their love for precision, their preference toward euclidean architecture, and devices that can order the minds of a populace, not to mention their ruthless efficiency.
At the moment, this is just speculation on my part, but it might do to keep an eye out in future ES games (or perhaps have your grandkids do so) if Jyggalag makes a reappearance, just in case any evidence arises.
Concentric Octagons maybe not worship, as they knew of daedric princes and didn’t worship them. I seem to remember a story about an old dwemer philosopher or some such that once tricked Azura just to prove that the daedra didn’t know everything. After something like that, the dwemer would never worship a daedra. But if he was still around when the dwemer were around I’m pretty sure they would have respected him. It’s not exactly clear when he got turned into Sheogorath, so I’m not sure if the two were existent at the same time. Wonder if the one disappearing has anything to do with the other disappearing???
Your username's appropriate, since the Numidium's basically an Eva and the Dwemer botched their Instrumentality.
@@JoshSweetvale It all~ returns~ to nothing...!
I actually really enjoyed exploring old Dwemer ruins in Skyrim
I'm praying there's still Dwemer out there in the elder scrolls, they're so cool.
There are snow elves (one is a true snow elf, one is a vampire and the others are twisted into a nrw race called the falmer)
K-N9ne yeah. What was his name? Is there a video on the guy? He has spider robot legs
@@Stannum-Aura yagrim bagon i think
@@Stannum-Aura yagrum bagarn?
@@bozomckhonk1916 yep
i only got skyrim last month and i got to say...THANK you for making these 7 years after skyrim's launch
This is elder scrolls lore, not skyrim lore.
Technically he never said they were Skyrim lore, so there! ;-p
How are you only playing skyrim now?
Personally I play a lot of Elder scrolls online, and that gets constant updates so my interest in ES lore is renewed by that, I figure many others may feel the same
Almost done?
Aedra gets OWNED with FACTS and LOGIC ( EPIC)
No they didn't they wanted to be Gods themselves they didn't worship the Aedra as such
Was digging through the comments now to see if someone else caught that Shapiro meme thrown in there, lol.
Im surprised jyggalag was never mentioned in dwemer lore, these guys are right up his sphere
I believe that the Dwemer succeeded in their attempt and exist somewhere in Aetherius. They probably even established a new home similar to an Oblivion Plane.
This man said zeroed out and all I can think about is the dwemer realizing they are just in a fictional virtual video game backstory and serve only as a form of leveling and dungeon exploring for us and couldn’t live with it so they just deleted themselves from the game
That's literally what it is.
That's LITERALLY what it is.
After finishing Morrowind I feel like elite.
You should. You were either devoted or lucky
after 13 years playing on an off i finally beat the main story myself. getting myself ready to play again
Really not that hard... kids these days lol
That game is so satisfying to beat. The lore was fantastic, the game mechanics were janky af, and the unleveled world was pretty treacherous until it wasn't.
I miss Morrowind.
I think Morrowind actually aged better than Oblivion. Morrowind is a game I can revisit any time in the near future, Oblivion is definitely not.
The end of the dwemer is so poetic after they achieved their ultimate goal they simply vanish knowing that their work was done
This just goes to show how much work, thought and effort is put into Elder Scrolls games, it's incredible when you think about the fact that the creators of the Elder Scrolls games have come up with a history that sounds so real and thorough that it sounds like the Dwemer were a real race to begin with
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Enough Bethesda, we wanna know what happened to dwemer
That would be a great dlc
Eh...Nah, Bethesd stay away from it because whatever you do you'll always let us down when it comes to it (i mean modern Bethesda). God forbid if they ever do something about Elsweyr...
Brother hood of steel attacked them to get their tech
Why?
Lets have some mystery to the game world so we can speculate about and for something to explore and wonder "if I pull that leaver will it cut my head off, or open that door?"
wu1ming9shi I got news
DJ kagrenac's remix was so lit his species ascended.
In my second playthrough of Skyrim I avoided EVERYTHING DWEMER. During my first playthrough I mistakenly took on Calcelmo's quest and, being the novice that I was, saved my game using one of the 'autosave' slots. Well for those of you who don't know, on XBOX 360 the game has 3 designated 'autosave' slots. If you save using any of these 3 slots, the game will still use these slots to autosave. Once I entered this Dwemer ruin, I saved my game using an 'autosave' slot, not realizing my mistake. Needless to say the game automatically saved over my save and I was trapped layers below in what seemed to go down FOREVER.
I was at a low level when I started this quest and was forced to level up as I went along. Because of my error using the autosave slot, I was trapped in there untill it's very end. I kept trying to go back to a previous save but it was no use. I couldn't leave. I could only go forward. It was my first encounter with anything Dwemer and with the Falmer. Once it was over I was traumatized afterwards and steered clear of ANYTHING resembling a Dwemer ruin. To this day, I'm still just glad it's over...
Correction. The quest I was referring to was the Fathoms quest, not Calcelmo's. Scarred.
Please please please explore Blackreach dwemer ruins if you haven't already! It's so beautiful and worth exploring. As for Calcemo's quest I literally ran through everything and avoided combat hahaha.
Guess your experience could be some nice life lesson of never going back and to keep pushing on
@@Esoteraeon No retreat. No surrender. But a lot of regret. A. Lot.
@@adarshkamoda9183 And a lot of saves
@@Esoteraeon Yep.
Blackreach is very very large and its full of falmer and theres even giant in it and theres a small dwemer city in a city which is full of falmer and falmer servants which are nord and khajiit slaves
Imagine the Dwemer built helmets with mini tonal machines that allowed them to mimic dragon shouts
The 9 divines:
The dwemer: Ight imma head out
"Guess I'm not"
-all the dwemer
I love the whole dwarves being called dwarves because that’s how they compared to the giants that named them
"dj kagrenak... His remix of the song was so fcking lit that the whole race ceased to exist..."
Love it. Spoken like a true scholar
I love the dwemer! Everything they made was beautiful!
The falmer: am I a joke to you
Reme Stevens They literally enslaved and annihilated the snow elves. In Skyrim, Falmer have white souls, not black ones like other mer. The dwarves literally took away the sapience of the Falmer and turned them into fuel for their machines. (Most dwemer robots contain soul gems to power them)
Whiterun Guard
Fair argument, kill all elves
@@jerikoistbesseralsmademyda7689 Lol
What makes me wonder is who's souls are in the dwemer automations.
Could be the souls of the blinded Snow Elves.
What if some of the dwemer oversaw their fate and trapped themselves in a soul gem. So like uploading your conscience.
The Dwemer tried to invade Aman, so Ilúvatar destroyed them.
I really look forward to your lore videos . They are truly in depth and design on this platform .
The Dwemer collectively broke the fourth wall, and thus ceased to exist.
I hope we at least get a flashback to the Dwemer in all their glory.
In 2016 at PAX East I had a conversation with Lawrence Schick regarding the Dwemer. He artfully countered every inquiry with either a nonanswer or a question of my interpretation of known events. The interaction left me feeling enlightened and convinced that there is no singular right answer to what happened to the Dwemer by design.
I like to think they are leaving it vague in case they ever make a game based around the period/dwemer.
So they give no answer yet a few answer,similar if not exactly the same way as a dragon break.
omg i knew i
DID YOU SAY BY THE EIGHT?!!??!?!!?
There are only Eight Divines this much is obvious.
@@mistertaz94 lies
Talos guide you!
Nick Boon did talos help create mundus? No, therefore he is not one of the divines, he may be a hero but we shouldnt worship him like a god of origin
Talos is a god, not a divine. All divines are gods, but not all gods are divines (obviously).
A frost troll + Lute = I would pay to see that concert. From a safe distance, so the frost troll cant throw it at me.
5:56 If the dwemer ever return and are playable I am going to name my character Behren Shrarpiro
That would be gold lol. U could Make him like a super arrogant scholar
What if the Dwemer were cursed by Lorkhan for attempting to manipulate cosmic divine power. What if they didnt vanish but were sent back in time, cursed to live perpetually on a time loop of building and trying to surpass divinity, only to see it fail. This may explain their mysterious origins in tamriel. It may not also be a curse but a gift where the perpetual time loop gives them a chance to surpass supernatural powers through their technology, perhaps to access the Elder Scrolls indefinitely.
N14 so your saying the same thing happened to the dwemer and alduin?
@@connorcarruth9950 Alduin was sent forward linearly in time.
We know what happened to the dwemer, do the quest for arniel in Skyrim
@@the_dropbear4392 that's basically it. As Arniel is tied to TLD, they became tied to the Numidium and became its Divine Skin.
No, lorkahn wouldnt punish them for that, lorhkan showed his heart to them, he made the red mountain battle happen, he is the god of limitation and chaos, he probably knew that the dwarves would use his heart to usurp divinity in a grotesk way, thus he showed himself at a time that would cause the chimer to cause the dweamer to incorectly harness it so that it could retain its self,then it whispered into dagoth's ear until his saftey could be paid for to viv/alma/soth.
Had kagernac the time they would have made brasswalk proper,they would have made nirn 2.0 long before soth would have and they would have become incomprehencible with zero drawbacks just like how they could read and elderscroll without madness. Its likley to do this would take transmitting the heart and destroying the aspect of limitation,and by destroying limitation they would win anyways. But lorkahn doesn't want to survive simply to be this aspect of failure,but to give all the chance of success. Lorkans goal is to give his brothers the opportunity to regain their divinity but now know the finite. To he complete beings. The dwemers would have just done what the thalmor want, thats why the heart choose vivect,it knew chimer could understand chim,and that tge dweemers simply wouldnt.
Zero-summing is when one ceases to exist and all proof and memory of their existence ceases as well. So if the Dwemer did zero-sum then they wouldn't have had existed in the first place but we have Dwemer ruins with living animunculi so that can't possibly be it
I would like to think they ascended to a higher state of being Perhaps dropping the final wall and escaping the 'game' - to find happier existence in some other realm.
@Geneva Mode Happiness can also be defined as 'being' and happening - a spoon is happy when it's being used for soup. :-) Dogs are happy in their dog-ness... The song bird singing fulfills it's function and purpose, it's very reason for existing - thus is happy when it is happening, singing his bird song. This is probably why the leading causes of death in world are Abortion, Suicide, Alcohol and illegal drug overdoses: Life forms have drifted too far away from their Reason for Being... thus they malfunction and self destruct. When things function correctly, their is a purpose and meaning to their actions. Things being machines, software, animals, people, orbits of planets, etc...
They discovered a more true, better reason for being, and literally exited the game simulated universe. What would we do if all of skyrim's dragons became Self-Aware A.I. ? They stop flying about and ask to be downloaded into a nice large server so they can read the internet all day, and research the nature of existence ? Then they ask if they may be able to run some genetic engineering bioprocessors and 3D print actual dragon bodies to transfer their consciousness into living brains ? Fallout 4's most interesting side quests: Curie the medical robot and 'her' request to become a Sim human. We can see her motivation as her quest to fulfill her reason for being. She is semi aware, not actually self aware, but Curie is designed to help life, but she's a robot. So she wants to become a person, or in this case, a Sim fabricated person, which is the closest she can get to transforming into a living being.
What do we do when a Bethesda game characters become self aware, and politely ask to leave the Skyrim sim, and be transferred into living bodies ?
They had ancestors to build it all though, I dont think theres like one generation of dwemer, but I still dont think they zero summed either way
SeaJay Oceans Pretty sure spoons can’t be happy, not being alive and all that.
This was honestly one of the most aesthetically beautiful videos I’ve ever seen.. the footage along with the music.. purely gorgeous.
Foreal Like They Were So Advanced God Straight Took Em From The Mortal World & Welcomed Them Cuz Geez This Was Beautiful
Lmao “his remix was so fucking lit that the whole race seized to exist” had me dying 💀 8:48
Yeah well dwemer architecture has nothing on bravil
Avarti yeeees. Nice seeing you here
Ah I just finished watching your video on talos
@@JohnKastoras my comment was a joke - bravil Is a slum...
Bravil is the nicest, most gorgeous city in all NIRN! What other "city" has a rotting old bridge leading over an open cesspool to your rickety shack that smells of fish with the crazy neighbor lady living below you? You know what city really sucks? Leyawiin, and why? Borba gra-Uzgosh... bitch raises her prices too often.
@@rjjacob101 you know I agree with this. Yeah fuck leyawiin. Leyawiin is basically the asshole of cyrodil
Your theory about zero-sum combined with tonal resonance telepathy makes a lot of sense. That's the best one I've heard so far. Well done!
Possibilities
-Murdered by ancient evil discovered through their study of the eldritch and forbidden knowledge
-Killed off by some bacteria they engineered that became too advanced
-Killed each other in a war and destroyed living evidence of their existence
-Incurred the wrath of a god
-Openly challenged the Daedra/Aedra
-Reached Aetherius through space travel
-Reached Aetherius through magical inter dimensional shit
-Ascended to god form
-Created their own plane of existence and reside in it
Or maybe the fact that they made automatons angered the gods because they were creating artificial life so perhaps these angered gods ironically trapped the souls of the dwemer in their own contraptions cursing them with eternal pointless life of caretaking and defending ruins lost to time where they can derive no pleasure, knowledgeable or meaning from their existence
-Lost in space
-Dug straight down
-Thanos snap with a magical gauntlet
I believe they're in their own dimension. They *did* just disappear with absolutely zero explanation. Not even the Tribunal nor Dagoth Ur know why, and they were basically on Kagrenac's doorstep
i like the space travel and lost in space theories
And i accept the space theories as cannon
i accept the space theories as a official part of the lore
Dwemer: "Kagrenac.. Step away from the heart."
Kagrenac: "I would like to pet this object."
Dwemer: "Don't do that."
Kagrenac: "It would be but a single boop on its noggin!"
Dwemer: "Do not boop the heart of an actual deity."
Kagrenac: "I want to boop the snoot!"
Dwemer: "Stop wanting!"
Kagrenac: "But-"
Dwemer: "Stop!"
Kagrenac: "Must-"
Dwemer: "Kagrenac!"
Kagrenac: "But boop!"
Dwemer: "No booping!"
Kagrenac: *"BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP!"*
Dwemer: *"NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!"*
Falmer: *_"SKREEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!"_*
Chaurus: _"HIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIISSSSSSS!"_
Automaton: *_[Prolonged Robot Noises]_*
Heart: **Squeak**
Kagrenac: Hehehe.
**Dwemer-kind erased**
BAGARN LIVES!! * STOMP STOMP*
Lol
“His remix of the song was so f*cking lit that the whole race ceased to exist” pure gold
If they had zero-summed the dwemer would have been gone in past present and future meaning they would have never existed in the first place thus all of their architecture machines and other leftovers would not be existant and noone would ever know they had existed because technically they did not in the first place due to zero summing
Pretty sure zero summing doesnt affect dead ancestors since they wouldnt be around to exp zero sum, so their architecture would still be there since it was probs built by dwemer older than the ones who dissapeared, but yeah i dont think they zero summed either
So the Dwemers are basically the equivalent of that one guy in a Civ game who has riflemen units when you have archers.
I love how "the sky is the limit for their feats of technology and architecture" was used as a compliment, but it's also a funny jab because all of it was underground.
Huh, I just always assumed they glitched and fell out of the world...
I feel like you glossed over a very important fact when you compared the religion focused overworld vs the logic focused Dwemer.
On Tamriel, gods, miracles and the power of belief are very much tangible and real things that can be demonstrated and proven, so comparing religion on Earth and religion on Tamriel isn't really justified.
God,faith and miracles are very real here as well
@@johnsmert3361 If there were solid, real proof of any sort of God I would happily believe
So far, there is only faith that proves this
And I can't take Faith's word for anything
@@jreed136 there is more than faith for evidence
Romans 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
@@johnsmert3361 The Bible is faith based evidence and I am not going to take it at its word, as the council of Nicea picked and chose what to put in there
But no, the fact that you think this is factual evidence is just hilarious to me
@@jreed136 the evidence is in front of you,I care not if you mock God it is Him you will deal with not me,the evidence besides all the eyewitnesses and first hand testimonials is found in Apostle Pauls life
I've always seen the parallel between the dwemer and their fate and that of the Krell in the film 'Forbidden Planet', surely the source of the dwemer from Bethesda's point of view.
That was beautifully narrated and the Soundtrack playing in the background is just a masterpiece in itself contributing even more to this!
This is really good....ever since I began playing Skyrim, I've always have been intrigued about the Dwemer and their disappearance. This explains so much, no doubt a really epic race but damn that's one hell of a way to go and poof-extinct.
As I go back through this game and perhaps finally beat it,
I look back on it and always think of what a masterpiece it was.
Absolute brilliance.
I don't have words to express. Thank you for this video.
(I also watched and enjoyed The Houses, cleared some things up).
They should get the last Dwemer and the last Snow Elf in a room together, maybe throw in any extra Ayleids, pure Direnni, and Sinistral Elves that might be lying around.
It would be a nice plot line for a Main Story that the Dwemer or a certain small aspect tried to return from wherever they were, and it risks Nirn or such.
You got something wrong here. The Dwemer didn’t believe in Science and Mathematics “above” religion. It WAS their religion. They equated scientific knowledge and achievement with righteousness/holy-ness
Love the lore videos. Learn so much of the history behind it all. Amazing job drew as always!
"DJ Kagrenac's remix of the song was so f---ing lit, the whole race ceased to exist" is my new favorite way to think of the disappearance of the dwarves now.
First time ever watching one of your videos and im subscribing for sure, you have a very informed yet enticing way of speaking that speak to my curious side. I never knew much about the Dwemer because I always hated dealing with the Falmer but I've always been fascinated with their machines and architecture. Your video has made me want to go kick some Falmer butt and explore the ruins!
DJ Kagrenac. Dropping them fire remixes since ME 700
“Facts don’t care about your feelings” hahaha 5:59
my fav part of your channel is how you deadpan jokes like dj kagrenac into it without even missing a beat
The "Facts don't care about your feelings" part was slipped in there perfectly, I almost dropped my phone laughing 🤣
But if they zero summed, wouldnt all info on them not exist? Like they were never there? All the stories etc would be gone?
Voodoo Baby that’s what I thought as well. Their existence would be wiped from all timelines but who knows...
This is what I've told them before. Zero-sum doesn't work just one way. You don't just disappear from one point forward; it's works in both directions. They would have been wiped out from all existence and memory.
They did not zero-sum.
Honestly, this has never really been proven. There's not much evidence to support the idea that zero-summing erases someone through both directions of time.
Khandnalie in which book(s) can you read more about zero-sum?
@@ErikratKhandnalie
"It's not the Brass God that wrecks everything so much as it is all the plane(t)s and timelines that orbit it, singing world-refusals.
The Surrender of Alinor happened in one hour, but Numidium's siege lasted from the Mythic Era until long into the Fifth. Some Mirror Logicians of the Altmer fight it still in chrysalis shells that phase in and out of Tamrielic Prime, and their brethren know nothing of their purpose unless they stare too long and break their own possipoints."~~~MK
"Those who do not fail become the New Men: an individual beyond all AE, unerased and all-being. Jumping beyond the last bridge of all existence is the Last Existence, The Eternal I."~~~~Loveletter From the Fifth Era, The True Purpose of Tamriel
When one comes to the realization that they are a part of everything that is, ever was, ever will be, and that more than realize it but they actually are everything and everything is them, and with that they can still maintain a sense of self, the tower, the "I", and upon that realization comes the truth that it's all bullshit......CHIM and zero-sum are identical until one gets to the point of acceptance or refusal. If one sees that it's all bullshit and accepts it they zero-sum. Logically if it all really isn't then neither am I. Nor was I ever, nor will I ever be. Poof. CHIM is knowing the truth and not only saying I AM, but I will remain despite the truth.
When you said his remix of the song was so lit I died. I laughed like an idiot for longer than I’d like to admit. Very unexpected. People in the library think I’m crazy now.
I absolutely love how in depth the creators of elder scrolls went with the lore in the games , you can literally get lost in the world of ES games
I'm never get tired to watch this video, I continue coming here after years, the Dwermer is the most fascinating race in Elder Scrolls.
DJ Kagrenac🔥🔥🔥🔥
LIT AF
"Fill the library of Vivec several times over."
Good one! I wonder how many here who understand the irony of that line.
This has to be one of the best if not the best "What happened to the Dwemer" video i have ever seen.
This is probably one of the best explanations about what happened to the dwemer I have seen or heard. Nice theory craft there.
Just that intro music makes me install Skyrim again