This Is A DISASTER! UNBELIEVABLE AMOUNTS OF FILLER - Shmee's Financial Disaster!!!
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- Shmee150's Porsche 914 really is a financial disaster! This classic car is hiding all sorts of bad repairs and lots and lots of filler! Unbelievable amounts of filler. We are on the road to restoring this abandoned project and didn't expect to see this!
We are at the stage now where the paint needs to go and we need to see what metal fabrication we need to do to straighten the car. Not only is it crash damaged, but it is also bent like a banana. This may have been why this classic was abandoned as a project, and this, along with the crazy amounts of filler is why this is a financial disaster. Nothing we can't sort though!
Buy a 1970s car they said... it'll be fine they said... oops!
Did you keep the receipt?😅
Gt4 RS Engine Restomod would be epic 👌🏼
It's my childhood dream car. Should have hot tanked it. Worth every penny. You'll see.
Restoration they said, That will be easy we said! Now look at it 😂😂😂
I think we are finally going to see somebody have a breakdown on UA-cam 😂😂
Last time I saw that much white powder it was the 1980s.
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LMAO!! Unbelieveable
Not even Tony Montana had that much white powder
hahahaha🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Please protect your eyes and lungs with proper sealing glasses and pressurized masks otherwise you will end up with lung problems.
Eeehh, lad give over! PPE? Nay! That's not how Yorkshire folk operate! There's a grand tradition of lung disease and psillicosis in t'region. From workin' in t'coal mines, tha knows.
Proud heritage, handed down from wheezin' father to gaspin' son. Aye. If tha can still breathe on tha 45th birthday, tha's a soft b*stard from t'South of England, not a proper Yorkshireman.
Jeremy Clarkson's from Yorkshire. Need I say more? Yorkshire folk are pig-headed and bloody proud of it! 🤭
I wrote a Yorkshire-themed response to your Comment (involving the region's proud coal-mining heritage), but UA-cam deleted it.
Sadly, it doesn't 'get' or allow Yorkshire humour. 😞
That's a lot of filler 😂 the car will have a better power to weight ratio now.
Boring American health and safety comment 🥱🥱🥱
@@Mahalo_83It’s typical when someone just must be noticed but has no technical expertise to add. It’s gotten quite common in videos from lawn mowing to setting a mouse trap. I haven’t checked in this case but almost always they have no content at all -in fact they often have no skills but to beat on what’s obvious to those who do. The big giveaway is that the safety comments come whether the video shows the use of PPE or not. It’s trolling but they would say, “I’m just trying to help!”.
Kudos to the team. At first I thought this car didn’t look too bad but, boy, what a mess! I suspect a 914 in our family will need similar attention.
what I don't understand is the metal doesn't look terribly off - why the gallons of body filler? Like the patch attempts were horrible - but there weren't that many. (on the exterior. The interior is a nightmare.)
I think they are mainly focusing on the corrosion they are seeing, who ever did the body work and paint on it previously didn’t replace the door skins or the sheet metal they just put filler over the rust and painted over it.
You need to get an air feed face mask , a big overhead vacuum , think how much litter it will be when you have finished , love your adventures
They are such craftsmen don't understand whey they don't use it. I want to see them in 20 years still healthy
I can't believe that much airborn shit in a workplace isn't illegal.
The Safety Video I had to watch looonnng time ago was graphic but I remember it today. Don't wear safety glasses with a wire wheel...see picture of a guy with a piece of wire stuck in his eyeball. Don't wear seat belt on fork lift, see picture of guy with fork lift laying on him. How lovely a drill press looks with a long lock of hair wrapped in it. Etc. Etc. Even in my garage at home, I do my best to stay safe (so far...so good). Wear the Safety Gear!!!!
He's worn 1 in matt Armstrong videos
I can't believe you haven't got a dedicated sanding room (eg sided popup gazebo) with extraction for cars like that. Or get it dipped
That white powder would destroy this shop every time they sand a car like this.
The work involved on these strip downs surely justifies a sand blaster toom somewhere in the shop? But love the vids Ryan.
Was thinking something similar, though more of a sandblast room. Could see it saving a lot of money at the scale they're operating at, since it'll take less time to strip a car and prep it for filler/paint
Back in the 60's before most of you were born, a magazine called Car and Car Conversions i think, took a good looking Ford Consul circa1960, and stripped it. The result was the car folded in the centre, the entire structure having been made by filler. In those pre test days it was common practice....and the results were horrific. Ever since then, i always preffered to buy rot i could see, then repair it. This brings back the devious minds of some people with no scruples. Nice content though.
I was going to comment that it is a good thing they clamped the car to the jig before they started work! Because some of that filler might be structural.
Reminds me of my Uncle’s old crash repaired Mini, he was too skint to get it repaired properly so used tonnes of papier mache and hammerite. Never one to hang around he managed to hit a stray cow on a back road, he scarpered but days later the village bobby was heard to be perplexed at the crime scene involving the dead heiffer and 16 copies of The Sun
Back in the 50's pre MO?T days even concrete was used in the wings
That is a car that should be acid dipped to remove everything that isn't steel. Rust, bondo, paint, everything. Don't know if they have such a facility in the UK, but having owned a '61 and '63 Mini, they need one!! Good luck with the repairs. I've been watching Colin's BMW and it looks terrible...this is worse. Keep wearing the safety gear!!
Dipping them strips all the protection from seams.. causes mayhem as you can't fully protect the seams afterwards which rust starts bleeding from.. sandblasting is far better as long as the person doing it knows about sandblasting cars
@@scotty281976 I watched a few acid dip videos here on YT. Some folks want it delivered in bare steel. The rest go for an extra dip into some kind of a preservation fluid that obviously coats *everything*. That 914 needs an "everything"!!
If done properly, acid dipping, neutralising and passivation is the way forward. Dont focus on the one trick ponies that just offer acid dipping and a coat of primer to stop flash rust.....the time and labours hours saved are worth it...
@@scotty281976an old myth from the 1980s.
Forget the name Patches should be called Phil. 😂
I reckon with all that excessive filler removed, the car will be so much lighter (& faster!) once it's fully restored.👍👍
Please take care of your health Ryan.....all that excessive dust that can be seen hanging in the air can't be good for your lungs, etc.
Keep up the great work, This is going to be a challenging project
Best channel since braketry and Binky!
I AM NEARLY 60 and for 30 years i repaired and restored cars .tbh! i have seen this so many times . my tip of the day to anyone buying an old car especialy one that looks good take a magnet with you if that magnet don't stick to the best looking bit's walk away . i once had a poor guy in my garage with a 1971 vw camper that he had just bought it looked ok ! from a distance [ nice and shiney ] he told me the seller just had a 4 k respray . THIS OLD VW BUS HAD plaster'es edge beading hammerd to a rough shape and i si""t you not cement / underbody seal for a main chassy and the body remined me of this day i had to tell the poor guy he had just bought the most expensive polished freaking lemon on earth .
. the saddest thing to be honest was the thing had a flooked engine [ it ran in 3 of the 4 cylinders but i never had the heart to tell him .
I JUST GAVE HIM A WRITTEN REPORT 3 A4 SHEATS LONG . and told him to take it back . 2 weeks later this guy returned to my garage and gave me a bottle of johnywalker black label .
In Brazil we call it Lasanha, after the Italian meal Lasagna, meaning that it has a lot of mass, hahaha
Like a Tim Burton horror film….
Best comment! 😂
Wouldn't be surprised if Helen Bonham Carter made an appearance.
Would it have been better to have it chemical dipped or media blasted? I still think you should have it done to get it absolutely clean.
The underside is going to be media blasted as explained early on in the video.
They've explained before why they don't like dipping, as acid remains trapped in seams.
Get yourselves a local dust extractor, we had one at work we called dumbo because it had a big trunk to suck up the nasty
Just one of the million things we have to purchase unfortunately.
@@yorkshirecarrestoration
Worth it for your Health. Especially with jobs like this.
@@markwalton8644 so are the other million of things we have to purchase :) it will come :)
@@yorkshirecarrestoration Appreciate just a concerned follower👍
@@markwalton8644 thank you we do appreciate your concern :) 👍
Please get Richard a mask ( you a well). Great music as ever
A friend of mine from Wakefield in West Yorkshire had a great way of expressing his dissatisfaction when disappointed, but I'll have trouble with UA-cam's puritan censorship algorithms if I print his actual words.
In the case of this 'car', he'd have said, "T' b*stard f***ing f***er's f***in' f***ed!"
For non-Yorkshire readers, that translates as "The silly rotten thing is jolly-well broken!"😁
This must be illegal! That car would have flexed so much on the road, completely unsafe. Terrifying 😳
Flex? That crap is thick as my stone countertop 😂
Wow, Ryan, what an absolute death trap that thing was with all that rust in the sill beams and floor, nothing at all with any integrity holding it together.
Paint? The paint was holding it together?.... Maybe?
Transmission tunnel looks solid....
It's so bizarre, I see no reason to have so much filler all over. The outer panels seem to be mostly "fine" (as in no massive dents and rust issues) outside of the ugly patch in the corner of that rear wing.
The person who put it on was a sculptor! 😮
I think you ought to make a room up , specifically for doing this job on cars that have so much filler on them , just to keep the dust contained to one room .don’t you think it makes sense ,god look at the dust floating around 😂😂😂
gr8 to see the others in the vid too. loved the dancing lolz
I would rather see a bad weld than filler over rust and holes.
And then those panels don't look bad, only the repairs - well hidden holes really. So why not just fix those repairs and simply build up a high fill primer instead. Bizarre.
they call that a filler widebody
The 914 was the worst Porsche ever, the first rusty ones were on the streets five years after they were new.
that thing has to be scrap, the cost is going to be 2 to 3 times more than a car worth in concourse condition
I knew as soon as he said it was originally a Canadian Car, Rust Rust Rust. Buy from California or Arizona or Texas. Deserts equal no rust trouble. Now about that filler WTH.
I think what you said at the end of the 100k stream applies here.
"F**in' hell" 🤣
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Not worth the effort. Scrap the thing 😂
Another car ready for the scrap, I think!
You should have got a stone mason in to get rid of that amount of filler.
He did use a lump hammer and chisel on one of their other projects.
Reminds me of the Lancia from Harry's Garage. Bit late now but you could do what they did and use a chisel to remove the filler,a lot less dust that way.
about 18:30 then I start going OMG
Holy moly. Unbelievable, what a terrible state.
I feel for you Tim
Why not use paint stripper?
Heaven forbid that the business that did this mess on this vehicle is not still operating 😮
Excellent video 👍🇦🇺
It costs a fortune filler and sanding, this screams diy. No serious bodyshop would do this.
Good to see a proper job being done. I've been through this type of bodging too many times too. I've used a heat gun on the excess filler and it comes off with a scraper. Just need to be mindful of not heating the metal too much. Saves on getting an inch thick layer of dust on everything in the unit.
Keep up the great work 👍 👍
Bad for Schmee but good for you. Makes for lots of fantastic videos.
Can't you like... chisel all that crap off instead of wire wheeling?? That dusty mess looks horrendous!😲
(hindsight being a wonderful thing...) shame we don't have a before V after weight... Perhaps making a new Guinness World Record!
Prior to the bodywork the 914/4 cylinder weighed 940 kg / 2,094 lbs. After the paint and body work it weighed 1133 kg, 2500 lbs. .LOL
I had a 914-6 for many years. It had a bit of rust; they all do, I ended up bending it when I used the jacking point to work on the brakes. I jacked the car up and crunch! A family of mice had made a home under the rocker! I ended up getting it bent back to shape on a jig and welded by one of two; ... that's right two people who could really do this in the US at the time; .. apparently. The shifting of these cars is so compromised it ruins the driving experience. I have no idea how they raced them. For me it was not worth restoring, although its modded OEM engine had 210hp and was pretty fun. I sold it, it went to Hong Kong and I DON'T miss it. I had a 930 and laterly a '71T .. both more enjoyable
Proper oldskool hardcore shit, this! Was this filmed in the 1980s, and we are just seeing it now?
Fucking hell, I'm all about health and safety as well, but I'd get that shit heap dipped. That's too much dust in the shop lads.
At last - a resto showing the UK aircooled VW experience! :D
My current beetle only had 10mm of filler on the right rear quarter, and 6mm on the left front quarter - both covering crash damage. Oh, and loads more glopped into the rust holes in the bonnet edges.
Anyone in UK do the chemical bath. I've seen a US UA-cam channel strips everything off. Paint, rust, filler
Gee whiz Ryan I never saw body filler used so thick as someone did. Looks like it has a lot of hidden rust from under the patch work 🤔. Well I know one thing buddy its in the best of hands ✋️ with captain yorkshire on the job site shmee doesn't have any thing to worry about i have full faith and confidence in you good buddy 👍 Ryan, captain yorkshire 👍. Awesome video 👍 buddy take care god bless 🙌.
I know the lads at YCR will do a fantastic job and I know Tim (SHMEE) will end up with one of the most beautiful bespoke cars out there.... But watching the video at what point does the shell become un-viable for either cost or general safety?
An arid/dessert origin car is always the best choice. Canada not so much. The amount of salt used to combat ice in the winter, just eats cars alive. Next time Tim will look in Arizona, Nevada, southern Cal., etc. An "actual" good choice would not have looked so pretty with the paint job and all, but it would've been essentially rust-free.
Yeh first makes a change ayup Ryan 👍🏻😉🇬🇧
Are you sure that wasn't one of Pablo Escobars experiments in smuggling white powder, would've loved to have known what the weight of the bodyshell wasbefore you started and what it'll be when it's stripped ---- lol
That extra weight of filler is probably what’s bent the body! I just don’t understand the mentality to do this, the work to make it all look equal, the car would’ve looked like a slightly bigger 914!
There must be a more eficient and faster way for striping the paint of a car!!! You should try dipping it ! And you still need to blast it after all of that messy work!!! DEAR GOD!!
I'm not a rabid environmentalist, BUT to be as kind as possible, all that dust is going to affect your health. Not sure if your mask is the right one or not, but when you take the mask off, that dust still exists even though you may not see it visually. Modern acid dipping (using a company that really knows how to do it right) is the way to go. I know it will likely affect your billable hours, but your long term health will thank you.
😵💫Thank God, there is nothing particular dust, Everywhere in the shop😵😵💫
Loving this project …probably my favourite so far. I am sure the final project will be amazing when complete
That’s not car body repair that’s geology!
For the cost of all that filler they could have gone to a metalworking school , bought all the tools and fixed it properly.
Otherwise I was thinking, perhaps with hindsight you went for the wrong approach. Probably would have been simpler to remove the metal underneath and use what was left as a mold.
@Shmee150 Think of the increase in horsepower just from the weight saving alone!!!
Surely there are better examples to rebuild, and do a frame off restoration! Why this one, just buy another, better example. This one is way too far gone to bother with, but maybe that's the goal, to show your skills. In any case, this is going to be one of if not the best 914 in existence! 👍😎✌🗽
Lots of filler? Nah, you've got it all wrong. It's a 1970's backyard widebody kit
Why would you put so much filler on a car....Profit! Pretty skillfull filling if you ask me. Great video!
this looked like an episode of CSI...... i knew the cutoff wheel would expose the truth and sure enough ...... the monkey did it and left a banana behind as evidence! One thing positive.... the car will have a much better power to weight ratio after you guys finish getting all the filler and do nothing patch panels off.
Your doing a public service showing how older cars can be bodged, good for you. As a matter of interest what make is that jog bench?
well I cant say I'm surprised, as it made no sense for it to be sagging that bad that the doors didnt line up unless their was some seriously bodged work underneath, as part of this cars appeal is that the targa acts as a roll over hoop, and is heavily structural to the car
and while their was alot wrong with these cars back in the day, well really three things, the fuel injection coming unplugged, a really bad shifter feel, thanks to the original VW bus linkage that they fixed for a better unit in 72
and poorly done window fit and finish, where it breaks windows when you close the door, three times
they generally, oh and it leaks oil, but that might have been something else, arent that bad'
as long as you get a sorted one, and did schmee get that message I sent him about the magazine article you guys really need to read for when this thing gets back on the road
as it has a solution to the cutting on and off problem they had, that plagued the line from 69 to 75
At this point isn't it just better to stop this and search for another care with a better body and trashed engine or even 2 to scavange between. The time you've got to put in this seems like it wil never end. Everytme I see you plowing into slapped on filler withe all the dust it creates it seems like every car in your shop will be coated in dust. Must be a massive clean up needed or at least covver the other cars in plastic blankets. Others have mentined the damage to lungs and eyes from doing this and you hearing. Even getting undressed without a mask will expose lungs to particles that ought not to be inhaled. In the days of coal mining ther ewere so many workers exposed to particulates that later developed into proper cancers. There must be a better way to do this - outdoors or a grinder with a dust collection system integrated, or a dipped acid bath as mentioned.
How did Shmee buy this without using either a paint thickness meter to discover the depth of the filler or a magnet to discover the extent of rot? He can't remain a trusted beacon of auto knowledge and entertainment while having you deal with this mess in the background. Can't be worth it for your health and his good standing.
Guys I’ve said it before & I’ll say it again… as rustoration seems to be your thing it would be worth you investing in a chemical whole car dip tank ! All that sanding is not good for your health and only does the exterior 😩
These Cars are the best examples of 70 s cars by means of no rust prevention Long live Karmann Theo made a real good job on These Cars is no prevention against rost for Most Parts Not even a base coat for example the rollbar Most of them are rustend from the inside out , i wish You Lots of fun 😂😂and donot panic the Titanic also sank😂😂 its all more or less normal for this car there is rust everywere
The body isn't even that wrinkled. Why the half inch coating on everything. I mean, 12mm. :)
Might be a stupid comment, but instead of doing all this sanding and making a huge mess(Can see it on all the cars in the background). Wouldn't it be better to just have had the car acid dipped?
The Porsche will be a lot faster with 500 Kgs of filler removed ....
That was absolutely HORRENDOUS! 😂😂
Whatever place done that initial "restoration" needs named and shamed! Ripping someone off that badly is scummy!
As a professional business why wouldn’t you invest in a good extraction set up instead of wearing all that dust . The same system you would use when grinding floors?
Are you guys sure that dust storm of plastic filler isn't a health hazard to your lungs? I see you're wearing a mask but the particles must be everywhere within the workshop
I can’t believe you’ve left the gear stick in. Mind you it’s probably holding the car together.
So what was looking like a good condition car for its age is actually a true disaster. Hopefully you guys are there to put back this car to its former glory, But this is a reminder for the common people that you need to be prepared while buying an old car.
All that time and effort is sculpting that filler. Amazing really, shame they didn’t just do it properly!
Only a youtube channel would repair this car instead of getting another one. The dumber it is, the more viewers seems the strategy.
It isn't like a 914 shell is so rare and valuable that you can't find one for less money than 3 days of your work.
I bought a rust-free shell that was $200 a few years ago, can probably get one for $1200 today with inflation, heck even shipping cost from a rust-free state in the usa would be less the time at $5/hour to repair that junk.
Nah, just a body widening kit seventies style - these VW Porkers rusted at the factory gates just like most 70’s vintage unfortunately, due in part to the unprotected body shells shipped and stored out in the elements from fabrication in one location to assembly line in another 😬
Hi ryan judging by the amount of filler that you seem to be engulfed in would it be helpful to have a shower installed at the workplace and a change of clothing so you could go home looking the part instead of turning up and frightening the missus and kids?
Was the prior owner a sculptor? This looks like an art project.
So much effort and money went into that filler work it would have been easier and cheaper to fix it properly.....
Why don’t you use an enclosed cabin with dust suction etc? Now the whole shop is covered in white powder. 😮 It’s an abomination. 😂
You really need a small booth to do that sort of stripping work so everything in the workshop doesn’t get covered in that dust
Somebody has to clean that up now
That is truly discracefull stuff
I got to get me one of those wire wheels
Did they have shares in Isopon? It's not all glamourous panel beating, i forgot about rubbing down, boringgggggggggggggggg ♥
OMG - this one who made this junk, should be forced to rework the whole car and in this meantime, he will get only water and soup and a bed beside the car.
Is there any merit to the heat gun/blowtorch method for removing filer? I have to do somo of that, And I've seen videos claiming is faster/less messy
From the appearances after using the DA, it looked fairly straight. Despite the awful rusty patch jobs the wings look decent. The outer skin is there the inner is awful. Underneath will be way worse.
PATCHES looks great cut into the rear quarter, would be nice to see it recreated as a vinyl decal to go somewhere on the finished car as a nod to its past
Why put 10mm of filler on? It ends up being more work than just doing it right with steel !
I wear a mouth mask while watching your video, think of your health! (no joke)
How much dust? I’ve dust in my living room now. That’s how much dust.
As per other comments.. my god, get a vacuum system... yes, you have a mask on, but the other guys in the same space dont ... this is just horrific for lungs! Btw, absolutely love the channel! Just please look into proper dust management 🙏
I admire skill in putting so much bog on a car and actually getting it looking ok.
What is it you are using to strip the paint and the filler off? I used very successfully the Bristle disc from 3 M. But the green one is still ruined rel fast….
Whoever did this work probably created a worldwide bondo shortage with how much filler was used.
It will go a lot faster without all that caked on mud! Cheap? performance gain LOL
You're going to remove all of the filler and discover that the car is really a Toyota that's been patched up to look like a Porsche.
Removing that much filler made the Porsche and Shmee's wallet much lighter.
If whoever did that repair had done it right the first time round, it would have been cheaper in the long run. Man hours working all that mud and the cost for the filler it would have had less time and labor cost. I've seen work like that done here in the states. It's been a while but I've seen whole wings made out of the stuff and very little metal.
There must be a surplus of body filler somewhere somebody was getting rid of really cheap.