CTWC 2018 Top 4 - Pt. 2 - Greentea vs. Jonas
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Jonas (3) vs. Greentea (2)
One of the greatest matches in CTWC history! With commentary by James Chen and Chris Tang.
In the 1990 Nintendo World Championship competition, Tetris was the game to beat. The winner, Thor Aackerlund, is still seen by many as the best to have ever played. Today’s Classic Tetris tournaments are played on that same version of Nintendo Tetris, using original NES game systems, controllers, and Tetris cartridges. In 2009, a player named Harry Hong became the first to achieve the highest possible score of 999,999 points. Inspired by this achievement, filmmaker Adam Cornelius produced a short film about Harry called “Max-Out”, and launched a Kickstarter campaign to document the world of competitive Tetris. As word of Adam’s Kickstarter campaign spread, rumors of max-out scores from other Tetris Masters began to surface, threatening the supremacy of Harry’s achievement. With the help of Nintendo World Championship veteran Robin Mihara, Adam searched for all of the Tetris Masters he could find. Jonas Neubauer emerged as an early max-out artist, along with the elusive original champ Thor Aackerlund. The idea of bringing these and other NES Tetris Masters together to compete in a live tournament became an obvious and irresistible proposition which was artfully captured in the 2010 feature length documentary Ecstasy of Order: The Tetris Masters. Under the leadership of producer Vince Clemente, The Classic Tetris World Championship is currently held at the Portland Retro Gaming Expo, an annual event which has hosted the tournament since 2012. Chuck Van Pelt and his organizing committee have built the PRGE into the largest classic gaming expo in the country, drawing around 9000 attendees. Every year the scores get higher. Rivalries are revisited once again, and new players emerge to challenge the old guard. Over 30 players have maxed out the score now. Will you be the next? ecstasyoforder.com thectwc.com
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Greentea is the type of guy that would smile and laugh while getting a speeding ticket. Such a fun player to watch.
I know greentea is still smiling when he lost even if he lost by a lot. He's a very fun and entertaining player, you have to love him!!!
once his controller malfunctioned and he still smiled the whole way
Máté Bősze yeah during the level 19 race part 1, his controllers down button was broken and trey had to get him a new controller, they could redo the match tho and he ended up losing because of it
Lgxi
@Tim Dennett i wrote that 2 years ago homie.
I will never forget this match. I miss you, Jonas.
He was such a positive human being, you could feel it even through only watching him...
The man was a legend and he revolutionized tetris. He will always have a place in our hearts
Rip
It's crazy that I'm so sad about someone who I never met, who I never even knew existed until about 2 years ago. He really had a special personality and was phenomenal at tetris, to say the least. RIP Jonas.
Wait he’s dead?
Whenever I see the thumbnail of this video I get ashamed of my face 🤣
You are an amazing player with great energy! It's a joy watching you play, congrats on making top 4!
I'll second JSkunk - it's a pleasure to watch you play.
You have nothing to be ashamed of. So much genuine joy, energy and love for the game that it's contagious!
You're too fun to watch dude
How? Ur easily the handsomest CTWC player.
I had no idea this was a thing and now I'm addicted.
Ricardo Baptista same
Samee
BOOM subscription for Jeff
Me 2
Sameeeeeee
18:49
"Now Jonas, though, look at him" *greentea looks at jonas*
lmao
Hahaha nice
I honestly think if Greentea hadn't been constantly looking over at Jonas during this matchup that he probably could/would have won it.
Oof
He was following orders
Ordinary fan:
How the hell is Jonas so consistent?
Me:
2:53 How the hell did he do that?
10:33
@@affableauthority2155 I think you misinterpreted the comment. It's literally "*how* do you make that face?".
That's why he's so good, he keeps one eye on the moving piece and the other on the next piece.
I seen that face on thumbnail i thought it was edited that way lmao
Lol i can do that, you just cross your eyes and look at one of the split images
I love the announcers. Those guys really hype up the matches
Simultetris 😂
they do amazingly well considering the level of focus they have to have on gameplay on top of being good communicators.
James Chen says "right there" and "right now" a whole lot, and once you hear it, it gets irritating... other than that, good job.
james chen! master commentator! thought he only commentate fighting games.
@@turosfagyi he from the FGC and i watch a lot of FGC tourneys and james does have a bad habit of repeating things.
Man, all of these ctwc recommendations reminding me of what happened... Jonas had a huge impact on my life as a tetris fan, I loved watching his streams and YT content.
His departure really hit me.
Black coffee vs green tea
Coffee wins! :)
I like them both, but coffee is my go to.
black coffee vs black tea would be more fair
Green Tea
Vs Red Bull (Joseph)
Just wanted to come and watch some of jonas’s best games again. A sad day for tetris but the memories are archived forever.
how did he die
@@AdnaneAlaoui He collapsed while walking around his house and never regained conciousness.
@@AdnaneAlaoui he killed himself "for others"
I bet greentea is soon going to be one of the best players in the world
Hydra already is, top 4 at least
If Greentea played super tryhard with 100% focus he can definitely win the champtionship, I think this was more of a fun event for him
Excuse me ? This is the championship...
Yeah but he didn't take it that seriously
Oh really? How do you know ?
30:05 LOL at the look of horror on Jonas' face when Greentea appears to be surviving the kill screen for a time!!!!!
😂
It's one thing to be defeated because you made too many mistakes, but so far level 29 is a hard barrier in tournament level play. Imagine how demoralizing it is to go down to someone because they have a skill that you don't have in a game you've been dominating for 7 years.
@@PeterJavi Joseph Saelee?
@@aaronp9344 Exactly
@@aaronp9344 Joseph the Indestructible
New Tetris goal: Instead of cursing at level 19 speed misdrops, laugh instead like Greentea lol
Jonas with a cup of Joe, and GreenTea with a bottle of green tea. Classic.
Is that cannibalism
@@lamjoe529 asking the real questions
Some day, green tea will win this championship. Some year.
s2u0p0e3r Imagine if the final was Joseph vs. Green Tea. 😂😂
25:23 Greentea gets excited because he might see a clear board. What a loveable character.
Oaksin It's too bad NES Tetris doesn't reward anybody for perfect clears... 😣😣
Greentea got the skills but it seems he's too laidback and his desire to win is not strong enough.
until then... coffee
That last play by Greentea..
After the tetris at 29:47, he's on line 227 and 35,820 points behind. A tetris will put him into the kill screen and give him 36,000 points (thanks, Quetzalcoatl :)) for the lead. Even with some clutch burns on the kill screen, he may get a couple of thousands more points max, but he knew Jonas has a few more lines to play with after an earlier glance he made at 29:41.
Assuming Jonas would be able to get at least 1 more tetris (which he did responded with almost immediately after) and increase the score gap to 70,620, his best remaining play is to NOT execute his "last" tetris on line 227 until he prepared TWO tetrises, 1 for line 227 getting him into the kill screen, then another at lv 29 to close the gap:
- He still loses if he score the last tetris, THAT is why he put the I-piece on the side even though the well is already 4 rows deep.
- After the 29:47 tetris, he already had this crazy plan in mind and knew that if he can clutch it, his best chance at level 29 speed would be an early I-piece post-kill screen into a prepared centre well. THAT is why he immediately put the O-piece on the far right even though the board was relatively empty in order to make that shift.
- The two tetrises will give him 72,000 points, just enough to put himself ahead, then the remaining battle will be between the last few lines Jonas has vs how many lines he can clutch by burning at level 29, given that Jonas don't score any more tetrises (which he couldn't).
- This requires extreme timing on when the I-pieces should appear. At 29:57, he's still at least 4 pieces away from 8 rows deep centre well but there's another "early" I-piece, which would create an I-piece dependency on the right side of his board so he used it on the tetris instead, THAT is why he's not happy with his "last" tetris, hence the head tilt.
The execution requires too many correct I-piece timings and building up for 2 tetrises on level 28, but the effort is there, and overall a superb match.
sllnJin great analysis I didn’t notice that at first. Thanks for pointing it out!
Okay but damn
Actually, greentea does have a way to set the 8-high up. At 29:58, the T piece should go in rows 4-5, considering the long bar comes next. That is extremely difficult, but idk, for these people, they might get a last-second adjustment. After that, he should be able to build out the well before the 2 long bars come on levels 28 and 29. He did get 2 long bars close after he got to killscreen, so that strategy is possible.
Edit: he got 3 long bars at killscreen. He can set it up by using the first long bar at the 9th column and a few last-second taps to the left or right might have saved it. He also has 2 lines to burn.
@@jatloe very good. But Greentea often loses concentration at the end. In this things, he is not so good, than other top player. For exampel his double maxout agains Joseph, he made similar mistakes.
But he is maybe the best Quick-Tap-Player
Lero Ok
Tetris for Jeff-
Oh wait, wrong video.
Boom!
*nuke goes off in the background*
21:04
"You can come in at 16, pick up the game in a year, and win the championship"
little did they know...
I don't know any sport with such positive attitude. They should play to 3 wins at this stage however.
WCT
ultimate frisbee has pretty good attitudes
I see what you mean, but it’s a lot of tetris. Almost all the post-qualification games happen on the same day. Playing so much tetris takes a real mental toll and more tetris would make it even harder
It doesn't really seem like a competition to me, but more like a teambuilding activity where both players encourage each other to do their best.
As a pro would say, if you are about to be defeated, make it a graceful one. It can help in the long run
Came back here after today's news... Rest in peace, Jonas.
what happened?
@@supervanisher Jonas died :(
How?
@@Danielgoofyahh it was sudden
@@Danielgoofyahh sudden medical
Such an entertaining match from both players!
wrr
Greentea has such a adorable nerdiness about him. I love watching his emotional play. It was a really close match. Would like to see Greentea vs Joseph in the next years final :D
greentea smile made my day better :)
He is just one of the friendliest people ever, not only a Tetris god but also humble
“Oh heres come a tetris for jo-“
Guy in backround: *BOOM*
my favorite part of the tournament every year is quaid bullying everybody
Greentea is such a happy camper!
wrr, happyx nmw
A crappy hamper …
Here to pay my respects to the G.O.A.T.
RIP LEGEND ❤️
both of these top four games have been the best tetris games i’ve ever seen. Legends are being tested by the newbies in the closest games of the competition. The finals are going to be incredible.
29:22 "It's gonna take all Tetrises at this point"
Greentea: *Scores 5 Tetrises in a row*
RIP, jonas. You helped build the ctwc, you helped get me into Tetris. I was rooting for you at the last ctwc. I didn't think it would be the last time is get to see you play. We've all lost something with your passing, but your legacy will live on.
He really passed out? for real?
@germanandres24 yeah, very suddenly. We still miss him to this day.
My friend recently introduced me competitive Tetris. After watching this match, I completely understand why she enjoys it so much. Such a fun and playful atmosphere while at the same time being extremely tense and nail-biting.
Never thought competitive Tetris was a thing until these videos started showing up in my feed. It's definitely a hell lot more difficult than it looks at first appearances.
19:05 *Greentea’s “wow” Under his breath gets me Everytime*
I don't think I've ever seen a professional gamer that's as happy and enthusiastic as GreenTea haha.
10:22 Greentea sliding that i-piece over the one he just missed was great, and his reaction was even better. It also seemed like Jonas used the dirty Tetris to transition his well back to the right side more frequently rather than burning singles and doubles. Awesome match, excited to see how the finals all played out.
That was master level right there
What greentea did is what some tappers should do, only reserve tapping on moments where needed, else their fingers will deteriorate faster.
RIP Jonas. Legend of this community!
And BOOM! Tetris on Jonas
Right as I read this comment, the other commentator said that HAHA
Just heard the news about Jonas and I'm here watching one of the best matches ever.
'This can't get more neck and neck'
Yeah it can. There has been eyelash to eyelash.
@@celestialTangle thanks !
24:33 "oooooOOOOOPS"
This one had me dying for much longer than I would like to admit
Lmao i love it
This was a beautiful match. Simply glorious. From what I've seen, this one might just be my favorite.
Neubauer passed away in Kaaawa on the night of January 5, 2021 due to a sudden medical emergency. He was 39 years old.[5][6] Neubauer was later reported to have died of sudden cardiac death caused by cardiac arrhythmia of unknown cause. His death was so sudden that it caused great mourning in the world of video games. In his honor, the World Tetris Championship trophy was changed to a "J" for Jonas, and given the name "Jonas Neubauer Trophy".
Someone in the live chat suggested Jonas start Hyper Tapping.
I replied, "Are you trying to destroy the universe? Jonas Hyper Tapping would overpower Thanos and the Infinity Gauntlet."
i think everyone should start hypertapping, its simply optimal
so in this case jonas is literally competing with a physical disability, which in my opinion will stop him from being able to win the coming CTWCs simply because everyone has progressed so much and the difference in ability will overtake the previous difference in wisdom
It's not optimal. You lose precision for that extra speed.
Samurai Jack Understandable that he wouldn't consider hypertapping. To tap a button that much in a second...that's gotta cause some finger/thumb strain. It's only a matter of time before the hypertapping method becomes too much to sustain.
@@zzzpoma9961 I'm not sure about this, I play with keyboard and it's not really a difference, but maybe with a controller it's different because you have no solid ground
Greentea still got time to adjust his glasses omfg
We need to get Greentea into some toothpaste commercials. That man has some big whites
25:22 Greentea: OHHH I could get a perfect clear! ...AHHH dang it!
2:49
Holy Jesus, I think Jonas is possessed by Marty Feldman.
This is the only game i know where the players can actually hear the commentatora
James: “And Greentea is 37, I think it said?”
Jonas: “Wait, you’re 37?”
18:49
“Now Jonas, though, look at him”
This green tea kid. Love him.
everyone does
Jonas Neubauer
April 19, 1981 - January 5, 2021
Passing the torch to the new generations.
Thanks for everything Jonas!
Will remember you the most in October during CTWC....
He played so amazing to in 2020, even beat Eric man whose probably the fastest hyper tapper aropund today. Just not right man really bloody sucks ya know...
Jonas: "coffee! Coffee!" 😂😂
Coffee!
30:25
Lol
😂😂😂
What's up, dude?
RIP Jonas Neubauer.
This is my favorite match ever. RIP Jonas Neubauer
Wow, I am legit addicted to this, like shove all that football noise aside, I haven't been this on-edge for a sport ever. Mad respect.
I agree, I'd like to attend one of these
Commentators: "They both know what it takes to beat Jonas."
*Joseph enters the chat*
Jonas: Why do i hear boss music?
One of the great matches, and is somehow already "vintage."
Is it bad that I cracking up about seeing the ref in this game. The conspiracy...
#BoomJusticeForJeff
#BoomJusticeForAlex
#Sleepgate?
#sleepgate
Whats the conspiracy about?
@@kenkiz100 check out Jonas's streams
I'm grateful that these guys are narrating with such fervor. I can't watch because I'm playing my own game right now and dreaming of GLORY.
19:43 sounds so sad. The commentator looked into the future...
Rip
rest in peace the best tertsi player to ever touch the game
30:25 COFFEE
Green tea vs Coffee
20:24 green tea...
commentator: LOOK HES GOING AGGRESSIVE MODE
Greentea: *_Smiles_*
I'm going to go into the bedroom where my wife is sleeping and gently whisper in her ear, *boom Tetris for jonas*
Underrated comment 😂🤣😂🤣
19:43 This did not age well.
20:06 Level 23, 1 match down to Jonas...and GreenTea watches over at Jonas' screen A COUPLE OF TIMES, just to see what's going on. haha GreenTea is my favourite person right now. :)
24:32 Missplacement, laugh, tuck, tetris. Geez! :)
Rip Jonas Tetris legend
i think greentea became a new fan favorite
I love the public guy saying BOOM sometimes when Jonas do a tetris
I think CTWC should offer to cover plane ticket prices. It sucks that Koryan, Green tea and Jani can't even go even if they win 1st place because fo and tickets.
I think top 32 should get travel expenses reimbursed.
Do note that CWTC is a fan-run, non-profit event. Covering travel expenses would be a paramount challenge for them.
@@SoldierOfFate Fine, but them saying that this event is a "World championship" when they do it in the US is a joke. Unless they open it to more people by offering some intensive as plane ticket reimbursement for top 32, this is not a world championship, but rather a US championship.
@@PureInsanity World Championship is actually correct title as there are competitors from USA, Japan, Iceland and Finland and they all start at the same line against each other. Nationality and citizenship have no meaning in this contest. Of course location has a role to play as players from US have advantage in that.
@@vksasdgaming9472 You are telling me that if Joseph were to live in India or Israel, he could fly to the US to participate in the so called "world championship"?
Only players that can afford the ticket can participate, doesn't make them the best, which means this is not a world championship.
If Joseph would live in India or Israel he could travel to US and participate. There already are players from Japan and European countries competing. Your argument about affording is irrelevant nitpicking.
"Палку, палку давай! Да где же палка?!"
*The professional
Kinay рептаил стаил
Здесь рэптайл стайл сработал на все 100!))))
May he rest in peace. Game on Jonas.
R I P JONAS. THE ONLY REASON I GOT HOOKED TO TERIS 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿
The thumbnail of this video is amazing.
Когда то со мной случился Yuri The Professional и теперь я фанат тетриса!🤣
пхахаха, то же самое
Я как раз искал этот комментарий =D
Я знаю, ты тоже листаешь комменты в поисках отсылки к Юре профессионалу. Так вот она!!
you know it's only a matter of time when this becomes an anime. naruto style with flashbacks and everything.
REST AND PEACE JONAS WE LOVE YOUUU BIGGG BROOO😟
I gotta say I have never seen a man with such positive vibes in my life as greentea, this guy knows what it’s all about in life:) have a nice day(Y)
Green tea is having a blast
Even when jonas neubauer makes his funny face,he still looks a million times as handsome as me.
Hands down my favorite match of the tourny. Also congrats to Jonas, for being the only person to get a game(s) off Greentea in the whole tourny!! And thanks for the hand cam, finally got to see how Greentea made that amazing save at 10:28 :)
Jonas Neubauer RIP
CTWC looking like 2013 Melee. I see a new esport in the making
Tetris friends / PPT getting their tourneys too
Especially because everyone and their mom knows how Tetris works, Melee is more of a flashy cinematic experience
Its funny how both scenes were heavily affected by the release of a documentary. The tetris one was also due to youtube algorithm though.
evo 2019, jonas (scar) put a spirit bomb and tetris enter in evo
"new"
You will be missed Jonás
I like how the controller cam is also kind of an awkward crotch cam...
hahahha and Joseph the champ is 16 too... 😅
man these guys are good, so sad Jonas died such a young age, very sad. Probably the greatest two players on screen in this match, I tried the NES version on level 18 a couple minutes ago, and man this is tough, respect for these guys, I can play modern Tetris pretty fast, like Tetris Effect, but there you have more time of course to drop a piece, the classic mode on that game is almost like this version, like that mode a lot. Jonas, you still are a legend!
Omg that video thumbnail is golden
19:44 “That one did not age quite so well.”
I channeled my inner Jonas when I heard that he died and then proceeded to have one of my highest scores ever.
I literally blame everything wrong in my life on “bad DAS maintaining”
32:37 Joseph's face looks like say "I will defeat you , Jonas" hahaha...
GreenTea is the most adorable human I’ve seen after figuring out this is a thing 30 mins ago, his little smiles.
30:02 look at green teas board, and put the video in 0.25x speed, now with the J piece, if he put it to the far left, he would’ve been set up for a tetris, and his next piece was, an I piece, so green tea was 2 pieces off from At least 2nd place, oh man next year it might be green tea vs Joseph
Its so hard if u not hypertapper at level 29 bro
Even if he cleared it. He’s not a hypertapper. So he wouldn’t have enough time to be setup for a Tetris. He still has 3 columns to setup. So if he was a god, maybe he had a chance.
@@Nagisa12345 haven’t seen this until today but he’s a quick tap god so he could’ve done it
Can someone make a "Boom Tetris for Jonas" shirt now?
Рептааайл!!!
Rip joanas
Nightmare starts at 2:49
Ahahahahaha😂😂
rip Jonas
For once I watched Green Tea's board instead of Jonas most of the time. This kid is a really good player! Hope to see more of him in the future! :)
Almost a year later and I STILL cannot understand how Greentea got that second long bar over at 10:27 with an 11-high build. Insane
DAS perfection. Literally only with perfectly loaded DAS and quick tapping as soon as the piece floats over the misdrop in a 1 frame window
19:38 Jonas also does the same thing.
Double kill screen...twice!! Yowzas!!!! 😂😂😂😂
That glass have enchant +2 intelligence and +2 concentration..