How-To: Build 32H Mountain Bike Wheels Simply -- The Basics of Lacing + Tension
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- Ok, so this Quarantine stuff has me mega bored, so I'm just doing these videos to pass the time for fun, and figured I'd make a video of my latest wheel build. The idea of this video to make someone who is considering this project feel comfortable with doing it. It's a blast, and totally worth it!
In this video I go over the very basics of how to lace a 32H MTB wheel in a 3-cross pattern, and vaguely go over tensioning and truing. I am not a professional wheel builder, and there are so many people smarter than me, so instead of putting my foot in my mouth, I kept it simple. If you want to know more about the details of tensioning and truing, i recommend the book/website by Sheldon Brown and other legit resources.
Specs of wheels:
Rim: Spank Spike Race 33 32H
Hubs: Industry Nine Hydra Hubs (15x100 and 12x142)
Spokes: DT Swiss Competition
I also use an online Spoke Calculator to figure out spoke length, google it, there are lots of options, my favorite is the DT Swiss Calculator.
Have fun, and post questions if you have them!
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I've been a mechanic for a long time, and this is hands down the best explanation of 3-cross lacing. Very easy to follow along and get it done right! You're a legend, thank you for giving the world this gift!
Cheers man!!
The nipple driver has that weird tip so that the tool pushes itself out of the nipple when the spoke hits the optimal depth in the nipple. If you measured and cut your spokes as accurate as possible the nipple driver will get you about 85% of the way through the entire wheel build.
Building a wheel has never been any easier
-from a guy who is doing this for the first time
Great video got flashbacks and nightmares from when I used to build wheelset. Now debating whether I should build one or not.
Great educational video.
BTW, that big blue spoke wrench is called a nipple driver.
Not sure i am ready to build it yet. I need to watch it 100 more times. Great instruction on a complicated matter. Thanks
Did my first wheel build after watching this🤘good job!
Nice man!! Congrats!!
Your video helped me out so much, explaining everything in detail.
9.05. Instead of using grease to insert the spokehead, I use a loose spoke. I insert it into the hole from the inside, with the rim standing upright, then drop the spokehead onto the loose spoke tip, lowering the spokehead into the hole position.
Nice build....when determining what spoke hole to drop the first spoke in you determine which hole you can see the logo and count 3 holes counter clockwise and drop the spoke in...that should give you the view of the logo through the valve hole when you are all done! :)
I'm not good enough to plan ahead 😆 I just look at it and guess and then redo if I miss it 😆
@@kylehasfun3114 that will work :)
ty this video made my 1st mtb wheel lacings a breeze, shops in my area are a month wait out on everything. 1st truing was a bit sketchy since I'm using a vise set up.
I should have been lacing them on my own the last 20 years thank you!
@@TejasToolMan love it!!!
i still can't imagine i finally understand how this method of wheel building so effectively. and now, lots of my friends and their friends ask me to build the same pattern as you did. i am grateful to you man...
That's awesome!! Cheers!!
Amazingly helpful tutorial, thanks a million for creating this comprehensive and simple video! Just finished building my first wheelset using this how-to, wheels came out stellar 🤙
NO, It's not comprehensive. He even stated this is chiefly a lacing vid. And did not discuss fine details of spoke tensioning.
Frankly, I've seen much better wheel build tutorial.
You could record a video about when and why 28h or 32h
What wheels to chose when you're fat. What configuration of wheels for full suspension bike and hard tail etc.
doesnt matter on the amount of holes, its the patternof the spokes that gives strength. 3 cross is considered the strongest, downhill, big drops, your weight is not a factor
'No reason to do that except been a cool guy' nice!
thank you so much for your wheel lacing video! you have made it so easy. the best so far and ive looked at plenty
Thanks man! That's what I was hoping!
Thanks heaps but I think I've made a mistake when first lacing. Maybe I haven't twisted hub enough at the start because all spokes have run out of thread and I can't tighten anymore. Still way too loose. I've done the spoke calculator twice and all àre the right length for the hub so I will pull it apart and try again. Cheers Grant
@@grantchandler8294 what size are you building and what spoke length are you using?
Hi there I'm building a 26 inch front wheel for my dirt jumper 32 hole with 260mm spokes. The flanges on the hub are both the same size so spoke length for both sides are almost the same within half a millimetre
Oh and I've gone 3 cross. It is a disc brake hub too. Thanks again, I'm off to work now unfortunately so I will strip wheel down this arvo after work and see where I went wrong
Wow this is so cool
Thank you for being a cool guy! Your video really helped.
great vid mate i followed other vids that made no sence i built a wheel following your vid was straightforward ty verry much for the easy build and wheel came out perfect my first ever wheel build thanks
jeez, i never thought i can make my first ever wheel lacing just watching your video. thanks for sharing this man.
Total noob here. I followed your guide, step by step, build a perfect wheel in less than an hour! Thanks heaps! Previously watching other vids, doesnt help at all. Waste half a day lacing but a few spokes which doesnt seem to be able to reach the nipples. Didnt know there are different length spokes until your video. Youre my lifesaver mate! Chur
Awesome to hear man!! Cheers!!
No issues with assembly for me ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxHL1v1R3NE5x4KiYfyt8dnQmyNYz7qi5L but I could see where some might benefit from using an experienced bike assembler/mechanic. I'm an older rider starting back after a 10 year break. This bike exceeds my capabilities and has been easy to get comfortable riding. I'm mostly on easy trails with almost no street riding and have not been disappointed with the performance of the bike. My fitness level is far below what I previously rode with and because of that the mileage is going on the bike slowly. While I'm losing weight slowly, the bike seems to tolerate my 220 pounds just fine. The bike has been used by several family members ranging from 5'5" - 5'9".
DUDE I FINALLY GOT IT THANKS SOOO MUCH YOUR A LIFE SAVER
Thanks buddy. I’m getting new rim and spokes for my 2011 trek remedy to freshen up!
The best in detail video so far! Thank you so much! Much love, bro!
Best fr
Excited when I saw your video because I'm waiting for a set of rims and hubs and will build it first time for a dj bike too 😂
Long story short buy complete wheels already built by professional company.
Thank you for your video, just finish lacing my first wheel in my life. Just 2 major tips 1)apart from using the grease to hold the nipple, i use spoke screw to the nipple head to pass thru the hole 2) never turn the nipple all the way thru the spoke thread when lacing, just enough for the nipple to hold the spoke.
Built 2 sets now with this video so helpful and well explained 🙌🏽
Yeaaa! Nice man!
Awesome video! Saved me and appreciate the knowledge 🙏 THANKS!
I have attempted this a few times only to find failure. After watching your video (multiple times) I am so confident now building this very pattern, I think I could do it in the dark. Thanks man
That's fantastic man!!! Awesome!
I was wondering if the outer rim is the same for the front and back?
This method is stupid simple. I've watched other videos and read other articles and this by far is the best tutorial. I can now build wheels! Thanks for this.
Cheers man!
The color combo on the wheel is dope. Great video.
Killer video thanks for making it simple and easy to follow
Loved this!
Damn that sucks..ill quit 2m into doing this lol
Hey I was wondering I have a Fairdale 2021 Taj the bI want to swap it over to a 9 tooth cassette hub off a BMX bike back rim is Big Bolt but has a free wheel so the Hub axle should fit but I want to know what do I need to make sure of and what do I need to put that back Hub on to my rim it's a 27.5 if you could help me a little I would appreciate it thank you
Hello :). I recently purchased a set of Arc MT006 hubs, 100/135 QR. I'm currently preparing for a wheel and need to figure out the correct spoke lengths. I have already used a Spoke calculator... I need someone to help me with the below questions. Especially if you have built a wheelset with the arc mt006. I'm using the WTB KOM light i25 rims with an ERD of 604mm. (Rim weight: 455g) I've been told that you should add about 3mm to the rim ERD to account for the spoke nipples, which =707. Is that a correct practice? How much should I add to the rim to account for the nipple? The technical diagram available for the Arc MT006 is a bit confusing, and I can't seem to figure out what the correct flange circle diameter is. The measurements I input where. Front hub: 32H, lacing 3x, weight:160g Width 100mm. PCD: 58/45, Nut to Flange: 28.1/ 13.7, Nut to center: 21/36.3.
Rear hub: 32H, lacing 3x, weight 240g, width 135mm, PCD: 58/44, nut to Flange: 31.57/48.15, Flange to centre: 36/20. The hub uses 14G spokes. Recommended nipple length is 12mm? When using the DT Swiss calculator the total recommended spoke lengths come out at, Front (L/R): 293mm/294mm. Rear (L/R): 294mm/295mm. Could you possibly tell me if I have gone about the calculation correctly?
Best advice man is just Google "spoke calculator" and punch in the specs and get the lengths. I recommend using 2 different calculators to compare.
@@kylehasfun3114 Hi, thanks. I have already done that, but if you read my paragraph there are some details I am unsure about, which I need help with. The calculator is only accurate if you input the correct information.
Such a clear, helpful video
Can I ask an honest question? Is there such thing as a wheel truing stand that eliminates the need for a dishing/alignment gauge?
I'll probably get some grief from people, but you can absolutely use a truing stand to dish. I use the dishing tool while pre tensioning so I don't have to keep chucking it up in the stand to check it. But I've definitely built perfectly dished wheels without ever using a dishing tool.
i have hubs and rims otw, been watching youtube vids for 3 days to figure out my spoke length and i still dont know whats right. spank hex-j 12x148 mm 32h, spank 350 vibrocore 27.5in 32h. Help would be appreciated
Google search for "Spoke Length Calculator", use 3 different ones and input your measurements. You may need to manually input them if they aren't listed on the calculator you choose. You'll be able to find spec documents for each that'll give you all the info you need to input.
@@kylehasfun3114 gotcha, sick set of wheels man! Appreciate the help
I like your leaving technique. Easiest way to lace without bending spokes and possibly scratching those primo new rims you bought. Question though.... Hydras for dirt jumping? Seems like wasted money since engagement is not something you'd be concerned about for the DJ discipline. Odd...
isnt the dish tool same as when you put it on the truing stand? like when the wheel is center on the stand?
Yep, you can also do it that way!
@@kylehasfun3114 So its a useless expensive tool. I wont invest in.
This lacing procedure is correct for a conventional wheel using a rim brake. In the event of a disc brake, the braking side but me laced 'opposite' to the drive side to handle the stresses and torsion of the braking forces.
All else is correct, except the disc side.
Simply, rather than dropping the first disc spoke 'down through the top of the hub', start the disc side as 'up through the top'.
Hi kyle. Sweet video. I work on all mg bikes from way back when I was a kid bug never learned the art of wheel building. I just bought my first ebike and was looking at different wheel sets and always wanted to try the silent onyx hubs on a set of TR38’s maybe. I am not sure the cost for a complete set but probably around 1500? I could be off. Then I started thinking maybe its time to just start making my own which leads to my next question(tools aside) how much can you save when building your own wheels? I know the first set or two probably not if you count the price of tools. Love to hear your thoughts. Thanks
I thought I might like to build wheels. After watching this I realized that its a bit out of my skill set! Great video!
Well dang! I was hoping to make this easier for everyone! Haha it's a really fun project, you should definitely give it a try!
@@kylehasfun3114 definitely made it look easy(ish) but I also don't have a full bike shop behind my living room couch! 🤣🤣
Never out of your skill. But it is a true pain in the ass. Get comfortable, took me 4 hours the first time. Tools was spoke wrench and zip tie only.
This is the only video I found that made sense
Awesome man!! Hope you enjoy building a set of wheels!
@@kylehasfun3114 I successfully built a set after watching this video. only issue is I didn’t make the parallel spokes line up with the valve hole and I couldn’t figure out why but they are built and true! Rode it last weekend to test them out
Hi
you ll work much easier if you clamp the hub upright in a vise and start from there
Just took an old MTX 26" from one old bike to another and needed a refresher thanks
How do you determine which way to rotate the hub when it's being laced ? I'm confused.
Pretty nice tutorial, unfortunately I had issues building with Newmen Evolution rims since they use spacers, therefor I needed to have longer spokes. That caused the threads to disappear inside the nipple and I wasn't really able to tell how far in I went but by counting how many turns I did. Ended up still having a badly untrued wheel, hope I can fix that. :D
Excellent video dude, which spoke calculator do you use?
Have you ever reused spokes.? I ask because I built some wheels a Year ago on 10x135mm hubs but I Just ordered a New Frame that Uses Boost 12x148mm Hubs I am going to Buy a new Hub and spokes too How ever on the spoke calculator spoke Length is close. my currant spokes I Have are R-267.8mm and L- 268.6 the Length the calculator Recommends for my new Hub with my old rim is R-267 and L-268.4 so my Other question is that Close enough.? does that Little bit even matter or can I Just round it off and Get 267 and 268.? my apologies if I explained this in a not so clear way. lol
So I personally never reuse spokes, but that's just me. Not sure if it matters, but I always just build fresh.
Awesome tutorial. Thanks!
How do you think a offset rim? I will buy a wtb offset rim.
Great video, excellent explanation, thankyou!
Hey Kyle, thank you for the great tutorial. I’m stuck and I need your help. I’m in the process of rebuilding my rear wheel, although I have trouble finding the measurements for my rear hub so I can input this on the DT Swiss spoke calculator. I have a similar rear hub to yours - I9 Hydra Classic Classic 12x142mm 32H Rear Hub. Can you please help me find the measurements for this? Thank you in advance - Benny.
I don't have a way to link, but you can Google it, or its on i9s website in their tech section I'm pretty sure
Are those the Spank Spoon 350 Vibrocore because they only come in a 27.5 and 29er sizing with the 32H sizing rim or are they something completely different
Spank Spike Race 33 26"
SPOKE HOLE, FLANGE HOLE, VAAALVE HOLE. Dude, you rock. Literally about to build my first wheels... got my spokes and Wheelsmith spoke prep right here.
Dude, that was brutal when I watched the video back, and realized how many times I said the wrong thing lol
Hey man thank you so much cuz me and my friend have been struggling with building his wheel for days
Awesome man!! You guys get it done?
that weird tool that sits on top of the wheel is important, my bike wheels are "straight" but my front wheel is sort of bent to one side the way it came and the tire is sometimes able to rub on the fork if I really pedal hard.
Yep, dishing a wheel properly is important, a lot of dish can me managed in the truing stand however also
Hi of the hundreds of videos out there to build a wheel, yours was clearly the best. you took your time and you slowly showed exactly where the important spokes should go to start the lace, but I’m only interested in a two lace. anyway you could show a video on how to do that or tell me the difference between a three lace and a two lace?
Thanks so much for the feedback man! To be honest, I've never done a 2 cross pattern before, so I'm not sure I'd be the best one to do the video haha
how did you know in which one is left or right on the rim.?i have a brand new spank rim and still can't build it because of that.
Spank rims are all symmetrical I'm pretty sure, so it doesn't matter.
@@kylehasfun3114 thanks a lot bro.and thank you for this video you made it easy for me..i will build the front wheel now haha
How long did it take start to finish
thank you so much built my first with you.
Would the procedure be the same if it was a 28 hole hub and rim?? Also, does it matter which way you twist the hub?
Yep! Same procedure for 28hole!
Very helpful thanks 👍
Thanks for this great video, really helps a lot.
You deserve more subs!
i tacoed my wheel, could i reuse those spokes and just replace the rim?
I think you're in for a new rim and spokes bro.
How did you determine what spoke length to buy? Say for instance I were to buy a 32 hole rim, and a 32 hole hub. What information do I use to determine spoke length?
There are tons of different spoke calculators online, just search for "spoke length calculator" and whichever one you use will tell you what dimensions you need from each part.
@@kylehasfun3114 I was totally unaware there was something like that thank you I will look into it!
thanks dude
Hey Kyle, what is the size of the spokes you use in this?
Are you looking for length? I'll have to go back through my notes
How did you set your final spoke tension? I have always done it by pitch (ping test), but I just got a tension gauge. Trying to decide best tension.
So honestly, the short answer is I borrow a spoke tension gauge from my shop and use it haha. But I've built quite a few sets of wheels in this same combo of rims and hubs, so I just compare between other wheelsets I have laying around and compare to the new build.
@@kylehasfun3114 Good honest answer -- the kind I always appreciate. :) Now that tension gauges have become affordable, I finally splurged and bought one, after decades of tensioning spokes by the musical pitch method or by manual deflection. The latter unfortunately is about as accurate as checking tire pressure by squeezing. :)
My newest project is the 1962 Carlton road bike my wife's sister gave me for Christmas. I am replacing the steel (ugh!) 27"/630mm rims with Vuelta aluminums of size 622-19, which should make for a nice touring wheelset to go with the relaxed (by today's standards) frame geometry. I am a longstanding fan of DT Swiss spokes, myself. I have already cut and tossed the old haggard-looking galvanized spokes, which would have been about 4mm too long, anyway.
I do like your method of symmetrically lacing, with inner spokes all running parallel to each other, but I may resign myself to copying the original asymmetric spoke pattern, common on a lot of machine-built wheels, for fear of breaking spokes on a used hubset.
Nice job...
Could you show us your spoke calculations.. and what way you did it..? Cool wheels btw..
So I just Google "spoke calculator" and use a few of the links you can find. You just type in your info and it spits out the lengths for you
@@kylehasfun3114 so did you have to measure hub for that or just had that hub's info?
How the f*ck do I know what spoke length I need😂
Google "Spoke Length Calculator"...pick your favorite
WHAT A GREAT EXPERT.
Thanks for this. Not only do I have quarantine to deal with, I also fell while running and had a knee operation. 5 weeks later I'm just starting to move without crutches (but with knee brace), so it's time to build a new back wheel. I'll find another video on truing.
Awesome man! Enjoy the build, I love it!
Dude I’ve seen so many vids and kept getting it wrong you made it so simple
Thanks man!!! Glad to help!!!