For those who are wondering about the engine shaft diameter, I have found that some newer Coleman bike variants have gotten 3/4” engine shafts. I will have to actually measure mine to really see what I have. But that the end of the day. I don’t think it matters whether the stock engine has the smaller or larger shaft diameter. Cause most people wanting to do properly serious upgrades would probably go for an engine swap to begin with anyway.
@@DaMasonJar depends on the engine and how much you push it, taking it easy on the 196 will go for longer, maybe 75 Miles. Nowadays with my 224 I’ll do about 50 or 60 miles on a tank but I always carry even just a little extra fuel with me in case I need it since I prefer going on longer rides.
Just picked one up and my kids are wondering why we havent taken it out yet 😆 (My back went out. From washing dishes of all things....) Real solid bike
If you install a torque converter right away there's no need for billet anything or governor removal if you keep the stock gearing. The OD function will keep engine RPM at a very safe level.
I agree, a torque converter is the way to go for a more reliable build I would say. Which is why that’s going to be my biggest performance modification. Keeping the engine itself fairly light on upgrades and keeping up with maintenance will definitely help keep it more reliable and help the engine last a lot longer.
@@pfmachineshow would it be more reliable with a torque converter and belt driving it. Straight Chain drive and a jackshaft with two different chains is the way to go for long distance driving. Torque converters are better for racing off road and short distance driving in my opinion. Not trying to be rude or anything.
Got one for my son for christmas but the throttle seems to be engaging on its own. When I watch it seems like the springs are not returning the carb plastic part to idle without snapping release the throttle. Semi dangerous at the moment. Any thoughts as to what would be causing that not to get back on time. Something need to be tightened/loosened? Sorry just noticed you got the same bike and are probably much handier with them then myself.
Well, I had already done that I guess when I was playing with it the first time. Not really too familiar with all the parts but I noticed that was a little tight and restricting it. Still not springing enough though. But I went into the trusty fix all tool bag and found that an elastic band finally did the trick after lots of fiddling around. Strapping that to the throttle lever to help pull it back was perfect. We had a fun hour or two of riding and breaking it in. Nice to see him smile rather than panic lol. Either way thanks for the help and if I get to the root of the actual problem, I will let you know. Might buy a nice spring to help with that return next time I'm out as elastic will break down eventually. Thanks
You will not regret the memories to you make with your son my dad got me one even tho I'm an adult already and I love it even tho I could drive instead. It's so much fun and you will build and even bigger bond with your son! Wish you and your family the best!
Hello. I just bought my son this bike for Christmas. He has a Nissan Pathfinder with a receiver. What type of hall master did you purchase and where did you get the tire holder for the back in front wheels. Thank you!!
Just brought mines!!!!! They on sale for 599.99 at Tractor Supply right now or as in the words of Bernie Mack, Emegetly! Thats means right now!!! lol!!!
If your planning on riding it off-road a lot, the stock tires leave a lot to be desired in my opinion. A lot of people go for sunf tires and other brands make mini bike tires as well.
Its a pretty good bike doesn’t need anything before ridden. If you are looking to upgrade it though i would get a new set of tires [sunF are pretty good] and maybe a new front suspension if you want but i think its fine.
I'm 13 now, and am looking to buy one of these. My mom thinks it's unsafe, and I wanted other opinions on it. I would ride on street and paved trails, but do you think this is a good option for a gas minibike? I'm also looking to learn a little more about small engines, so I also am curious how this would be. So really I want to know: Should I buy one? (yes I have the money), and is it a smart purchase? Other than that, loved the video and just really wanted your opinion. Also, I already have an electric scooter and am looking to upgrade. I'm also thinking that I want the B200, not the B200r
@@Andrew_Fit7 I’d say a mini is a great way to get into small engines for sure, I think there are more dangerous things than a stock mini bike that goes 23mph, I would argue that a quad bike is more dangerous because of the fact that if you flip over it will flip all the way over, the seat height on a minibike is so low that even for the kid who isn’t fully grown, as long as you were wearing decent protection it has a much much lower chance of actually causing more long-term harm than scratches and bruises when you lay the bike down on accident.
I prefer to keep this off of dusty gravel it will act like sandpaper on the sprockets over time! Drop the original 50 tooth sprocket and put on a 42 tooth. Plan on spending a few bucks to maintain this bike and make it great!
Drop the original fifty tooth sprocket down to a smaller 42 tooth sprocket and you'll be surprised! Also back off the governor screw after it's well broken in after 300 miles.
@@mindrelaxingandhealing2400 it can yes, that’s common with single cylinder engines, my current 224cc is has more vibrations compared to the stock 196cc.
Ok I may have been wrong. I put a torque converter on my b200r yesterday. I didn't measure the shaft. But the torque converter I bought was this one and it fit perfectly (Vevor 212CC Torque Converter Kit Go Kart 30 Series 6.5 HP Mini Bike Comet Clutch Set 3/4 Inch 10T #40 or 41 Chain Predator Driver Pulley Replacement Comet TAV2 Go-Kart Torque Converter). Because of the frame I had to get this riser (JMCHstore Torque Converter Engine Motor Riser Hardware Kit for Predator 212cc) it's just a 1 inch high square tube. It fits with no room to spare so the ones that rise any higher or shift is the engine forward will not fit. Also I used a grinder to cut a little bit off the chain guard where the torque converter case is. Because of the tight fit, I will have trouble replacing the air filter. My fix is that I will change out the air intake.
Great motorbike except the exhaust location. As im typing this I have a second degree burn on my hand, not the first time I’ve been burned from this exact bike. If your a parent or just want to buy this bike, be very enthusiastic about 1. Wearing pants, the exhaust is basically on your leg. Move your leg to the right you have contact with a hot exhaust and your getting burned. 2. Gloves. Gloves, gloves, gloves. If you ever touch the exhaust without, it’s over for you. The reason I have this burn, I fell over on it standing completely still (the soil went out.) there was NOWHERE to grab to get up that wasn’t hot and without thinking put my hand on the exhaust to get up, and in 2 seconds of contact a second degree burn. Be. Careful.
True 196 clones have always had a 3/4" shaft. Three of the Coleman models used a 196 with a 16mm shaft, not 5/8". The Hisun engine Coleman used is the only 196 with the smaller shaft. These Coleman minibikes and Predator 212's didn't exist when I started buying clones.
For those who are wondering about the engine shaft diameter, I have found that some newer Coleman bike variants have gotten 3/4” engine shafts. I will have to actually measure mine to really see what I have.
But that the end of the day. I don’t think it matters whether the stock engine has the smaller or larger shaft diameter. Cause most people wanting to do properly serious upgrades would probably go for an engine swap to begin with anyway.
Yeah I gave out bad information a few days ago thinking it was 5/8.
I wanted to put old school Briggs on mine and have to put bushing on the shaft so the newer clutch will fit
What's the gas mileage on the 1 gallon tank?
@@DaMasonJar depends on the engine and how much you push it, taking it easy on the 196 will go for longer, maybe 75 Miles. Nowadays with my 224 I’ll do about 50 or 60 miles on a tank but I always carry even just a little extra fuel with me in case I need it since I prefer going on longer rides.
Da fuq is talking about boi ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ IM FINanA ROCK I SHYT BOI
this 19 year old knows more about motorcycles than most of my local motorcycle mechanics. Pretty impressive
Just picked one up and my kids are wondering why we havent taken it out yet 😆
(My back went out. From washing dishes of all things....)
Real solid bike
I feel ya bro. A sneeze did it for me lol
Do some perfect form squats and banded oblique twists every day, that should prevent that from happening
These mini bikes take me back to my childhood.
i clickd on this video because i got one of these and i just subscribed and decided to watch more of his videos
If you install a torque converter right away there's no need for billet anything or governor removal if you keep the stock gearing. The OD function will keep engine RPM at a very safe level.
I agree, a torque converter is the way to go for a more reliable build I would say. Which is why that’s going to be my biggest performance modification. Keeping the engine itself fairly light on upgrades and keeping up with maintenance will definitely help keep it more reliable and help the engine last a lot longer.
What torque converter do you guys recommend installing on this bike?
@@alexc199930 series, I have 3
@@pfmachineshow would it be more reliable with a torque converter and belt driving it. Straight Chain drive and a jackshaft with two different chains is the way to go for long distance driving. Torque converters are better for racing off road and short distance driving in my opinion. Not trying to be rude or anything.
I just got one too this week and did a light upgrade 7inch light bar from autozone fits in the stock headlight mount quick swap
Any more info on the light you bought would be nice got same bike want to put led
Thanks for making the video! Gonna pick mine up soon!
What torque converter do yall recommend installing?
You did great on the video very educational. I am in the market of buying one just waiting for the shipment to come in. Thanks a lot great video.
Got one for my son for christmas but the throttle seems to be engaging on its own. When I watch it seems like the springs are not returning the carb plastic part to idle without snapping release the throttle. Semi dangerous at the moment. Any thoughts as to what would be causing that not to get back on time. Something need to be tightened/loosened? Sorry just noticed you got the same bike and are probably much handier with them then myself.
Loosen the throttle lever bolt, it needs to be loose enough to where the throttle lever is loose and springs back.
I will try that thank you and let you know. @@pfmachines
Well, I had already done that I guess when I was playing with it the first time. Not really too familiar with all the parts but I noticed that was a little tight and restricting it. Still not springing enough though. But I went into the trusty fix all tool bag and found that an elastic band finally did the trick after lots of fiddling around. Strapping that to the throttle lever to help pull it back was perfect. We had a fun hour or two of riding and breaking it in. Nice to see him smile rather than panic lol. Either way thanks for the help and if I get to the root of the actual problem, I will let you know. Might buy a nice spring to help with that return next time I'm out as elastic will break down eventually. Thanks
Check idle acre behind airbox
Great video. Thinking about one for my 15 year old son.
You will not regret the memories to you make with your son my dad got me one even tho I'm an adult already and I love it even tho I could drive instead. It's so much fun and you will build and even bigger bond with your son! Wish you and your family the best!
Trackor supply has them 200 off right now intell 7 Dec
I just saw that at the store. I'm getting it for sure
Can you do a video on loading it on the hitch carrier…..no videos of that out there
Thx for this video I’m thinking on getting this bike really soon
Hello. I just bought my son this bike for Christmas. He has a Nissan Pathfinder with a receiver. What type of hall master did you purchase and where did you get the tire holder for the back in front wheels. Thank you!!
Just brought mines!!!!! They on sale for 599.99 at Tractor Supply right now or as in the words of Bernie Mack, Emegetly! Thats means right now!!! lol!!!
Me too
just got one and thinking about putting on a backrest and rear view mirrors and bags on both sides
Just making sure here do you have to oil the clutch and if you do can you show me how you did it on that caz I have the same one
I bought this just for the seat compared to the ct200u. I saw it at tractor supply, coped a squat an said oh yeah, gotta have it.
Is it stock with a cvt and how quick is it stock
Just picked one of these up for my 13yr old son today for Christmas. Hoping he loves it. Got it for $649 Any upgrades I should do before it's ridden?
If your planning on riding it off-road a lot, the stock tires leave a lot to be desired in my opinion. A lot of people go for sunf tires and other brands make mini bike tires as well.
Its a pretty good bike doesn’t need anything before ridden. If you are looking to upgrade it though i would get a new set of tires [sunF are pretty good] and maybe a new front suspension if you want but i think its fine.
Good video, i was just looking at these at tractor supply
I'm 13 now, and am looking to buy one of these. My mom thinks it's unsafe, and I wanted other opinions on it. I would ride on street and paved trails, but do you think this is a good option for a gas minibike? I'm also looking to learn a little more about small engines, so I also am curious how this would be. So really I want to know: Should I buy one? (yes I have the money), and is it a smart purchase? Other than that, loved the video and just really wanted your opinion. Also, I already have an electric scooter and am looking to upgrade. I'm also thinking that I want the B200, not the B200r
@@Andrew_Fit7 I’d say a mini is a great way to get into small engines for sure, I think there are more dangerous things than a stock mini bike that goes 23mph, I would argue that a quad bike is more dangerous because of the fact that if you flip over it will flip all the way over, the seat height on a minibike is so low that even for the kid who isn’t fully grown, as long as you were wearing decent protection it has a much much lower chance of actually causing more long-term harm than scratches and bruises when you lay the bike down on accident.
Tell your mom that life is unsafe
Hey what bike carrier/hitch did you use?
Got it from harbor freight, it carries up to 400lb of bike. I may make a video on it since people seem to be interested in something like that.
Good video! I just picked one up myself
Just got one yesterday 🤙🏼🤙🏼🤙🏼
3/4” shaft?
I have 1, fully undid the governor mf is scary fast lol.
I prefer to keep this off of dusty gravel it will act like sandpaper on the sprockets over time! Drop the original 50 tooth sprocket and put on a 42 tooth. Plan on spending a few bucks to maintain this bike and make it great!
Nice video I have the same model
how it going up hills? or old skidder roads ?
@@roberttempest634 like a goat, it’s a torquey sob
I have one. And i love it
Drop the original fifty tooth sprocket down to a smaller 42 tooth sprocket and you'll be surprised! Also back off the governor screw after it's well broken in after 300 miles.
You'll also have to tighten the chain and.shorten it to get more rpm
Thanks!
Does shake a lot? Vibration?
@@mindrelaxingandhealing2400 it can yes, that’s common with single cylinder engines, my current 224cc is has more vibrations compared to the stock 196cc.
Its a 5/8 inch shaft. I picked mine upa few days ago and tried to put a torque converter on. Im waiting for a engine riser now
That’s good to know, definitely will be doing a torque converter on mine so looking forward to that.
By the looks of this frame design an engine riser may get interesting.
Ok I may have been wrong. I put a torque converter on my b200r yesterday. I didn't measure the shaft. But the torque converter I bought was this one and it fit perfectly (Vevor 212CC Torque Converter Kit Go Kart 30 Series 6.5 HP Mini Bike Comet Clutch Set 3/4 Inch 10T #40 or 41 Chain Predator Driver Pulley Replacement Comet TAV2 Go-Kart Torque Converter). Because of the frame I had to get this riser (JMCHstore Torque Converter Engine Motor Riser Hardware Kit for Predator 212cc) it's just a 1 inch high square tube. It fits with no room to spare so the ones that rise any higher or shift is the engine forward will not fit. Also I used a grinder to cut a little bit off the chain guard where the torque converter case is. Because of the tight fit, I will have trouble replacing the air filter. My fix is that I will change out the air intake.
My b200 has 3/4 shaft
@@dabosssr24 the b200 already comes with a torque converter? Does the engine have risers or is the b200 not need them?
Great motorbike except the exhaust location. As im typing this I have a second degree burn on my hand, not the first time I’ve been burned from this exact bike.
If your a parent or just want to buy this bike, be very enthusiastic about
1. Wearing pants, the exhaust is basically on your leg. Move your leg to the right you have contact with a hot exhaust and your getting burned.
2. Gloves. Gloves, gloves, gloves. If you ever touch the exhaust without, it’s over for you.
The reason I have this burn, I fell over on it standing completely still (the soil went out.) there was NOWHERE to grab to get up that wasn’t hot and without thinking put my hand on the exhaust to get up, and in 2 seconds of contact a second degree burn.
Be. Careful.
How fast is it
23mph stock, with my current upgrades as of may 2024 it will do 45 on smooth road pretty comfortable.
What’s the best way to atleast make it go 30
@@Walterwhite77172 install a 30 series cvt
@@pfmachines what did you put to make it go 45? was it the 30 series cvt or something else
@@TrustyJameo 30 series with a predator 224
This engine is made by Tao Tao just so you guys knpw
196cc clones have a 5/8in shaft
212cc normally have 3/4in shaft
Not this 196 clone. It’s 3/4
True 196 clones have always had a 3/4" shaft. Three of the Coleman models used a 196 with a 16mm shaft, not 5/8". The Hisun engine Coleman used is the only 196 with the smaller shaft. These Coleman minibikes and Predator 212's didn't exist when I started buying clones.
Juggernaut clutch highly recommended
I think I know why it’s better than the ct200u… because it’s twice the price
Change those tires if I was you I did
I all it wants to do is eat
I'll trade you 2 CT 200 for that one
A bra that's what type mini bike I am getting
If you want these little mini bike’s to go fast why not get a used dirt bike
Because we like the challenge
plus they are too expensive lol. Fkn people want 2500 for a 2003 pit bike 😂
@@dank9288639 I agree so much with you man😂
@dank9288639 that's used car prices🤣🤦♂️
Personal preference and I think minibikes are cooler too. But that's just me