THE ANTIDOTE TO BACK PAIN WITH PROFESSOR STUART MCGILL
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- Опубліковано 8 чер 2024
- If you have back pain, or treat people with back pain this is for you.
Stronglines Physio talks to world renowned Spinal Specialist Professor Stuart McGill, Chief Scientific Officer, Backfitpro Inc. and author of Back Mechanic, an evidence based guide to fixing back pain that has helped thousands reclaim their lives.
We talk all things back pain from finding and removing your pain triggers to fixing the world's best athletes.
Learn how to FUTUREPROOF your spine and so much more.
Thank you Professor Stuart McGill.
#backpain #specialists #spine #rehabilitation #physio #physiotherapy #eatsleeprehabrepeat
Edited by Jack Goodman
Dr. McGill's wisdom put me back horizontally, and back into training.. 100's of hours of physio based on his teachings , 1000's of hours of " the big three" plus " , ":stirring the pot" and calisthenics, years later , I am almost fit for a job in circus , brush off the doom mongering spinal surgeon's findings and his promises of an inevitable surgery..so far so good..
I am eternally grateful ..
Awesome man
Wow!
Gives one hope.
Thanks for sharing.
Remember : " The mind gives in before the body does"
Can you please share information about physio based on his teaching? Can I connect you through email?
Beautiful post.
My back is healing just watching those videos! His optimism and energy is contagious!
Thank you both so much! 😊
This conversation is pure gold!
Simply, outstanding. Thank you for the lessons.
What an amazing video. Thank you and Dr. Stuart
Very informative, down to earth and relatable information. Thank you.
Found the video extremely useful both academically and practically. Thx a lot
Eternally greatful for your wisdom
. It is so accurate and precise. This seminar will be very helpful. Thank you. God Bless
Great interview, always like to watch and listen to Dr McGill.
Pain is the tutor. This is just so pragmatic. Thank you for the wonderful interview!
Thank u for advocating for the pt
Great interview!
Great video!
This is amazing . I’m buying your book. There aren’t any competent PTs in upstate NY
good questions led to insightful answers and demonstrations by Stu. Thanks
Many clients get trapped in habitual postures and repetitive movement patterns that cause their pain. Ask yourself, "What motions, postures, loads and activities are triggering your pain?" Instead of paying clinicians to perform procedures, we need a health care system that trains clinicians to perform accurate, precise physical assessments and then prescribe functional, pain-free postures and movement patterns.
That’s literally physical and occupational therapy
Definition of a true Master
He truly is. he has just done another awesome chat with Peter Attia on the Drive podcast. Great info.
There is very little info about Tarlov cysts that cause back pain. Radiologists say they’re incidental because they require specialized treatment and most neuros won’t address them. Read your own MRIs to see if they are noted. Dr McGill has actually had a patient with Tarlov cysts and sent her to a specialist because he couldn’t help.
This professor is so knowledgeable. Love him. I wish I knew his thoughts on prolia shots every single back doctor is recommending. I've read the side effects and doctor just make the patient feel bad for not get it but they do not give any helpful program.
He thinks and uses logic and science and actually tests, collects data, and thinks again.
People don't do this but they're so sure when they make claims about x or y. People suck.
What a legend.
Thank you very much. I have a low back pain for one year now. Kindly guide. 56 years old. Rheumatoid arthritis survivor. From Kenya. I feel pain .
This is amazing! I want to be empowered too. The physio I have right now didn't even touch my back at all and said my own mind was amplifying my pain. I'm feeling really let down right now by the lack of diagnosis I've experienced. But I am now hopeful that I can fix this lower back pain I am suffering.
Exactly my thoughts - as a tennis player with old martial arts & rugby injuries I need a long term evidence based strategy. His book is going on everyone’s Christmas present list
All in the mind a cliche check out AMIT dr Buhler
@@jeremyvanvlymen7191 check out AMIT Dr Buhler
Same here. Before injury i was a competitive fighter ever since i was 8yrs old. Parents had me in muay thai and japanese jiujitsu from age 5 due to bullying. first time i was ever punched in the face i just turned 5 and was hit by a 9yr old bully wearing a gold ring. Busted my eye wide open.
Started doing mma at 18, at 21 got slammed real bad, whole spine felt like it was being cooked by a blowtorch and electrocuting me. Pain is 24/7. im 34 now and lost all of my 20s. Each day is just trying to survive.
The physio person i saw treated me like i was an idiot who knew nothing about physical fitness etc despite them knowing my sports history.
Not once did she ever even touch my spine. my sessions were her having me on spin cycle for ten mins then stupid stretches, nothing else. Absolutely ridiculous.
My injuries are excessive. At t9-10 the spinal cord itself is twisted into the vertebrae and you can literally see on the mri the csf fluid being backed up below the point of impingement, above it you dont see much fluid.
Think of it as a hose pipe with a kink in it not allowing water to flow properly. Its this thats causing all this pain, yet docs treat me like an idiot despite the fact ive spent all these years studying the spine and can clearly communicate with the docs with the terminology they themselves use.
I get disregarded alot because of my age which is bs, i know for a fact if i was 60 this wouldve been resolved in months 😞😢
Theres also several endplate fractures and bulges, the bulges arent horizontal, outwards like normally do, theyre vertical into the vertebra and fractures themselves.
Sorry for the rant guys lol im sure you guys understand how torturous and annoying it is
Amazing. he gets into detailed examples that illistrate a principle and expertise, which gives hope.
There is a better way, the doctors who gaslight you are inconpetent, and no, your sotuation isnt hopleess.
Great info. I wish I could afford a session with providers that use his methods. In Austin, seeing someone that does the 3 hour McGill Assessment is $2,000. That's after an initial $249 - 30 minute assessment. Guess I'll start saving... Geeesh, good medicine is always for the well off..
Meanwhile, you could try getting "The back mechanic" by Stuart McGill. It's pretty cheap or you could search for it online. DO the self asessment and apply all knowledge there thoroughly. Maybe you won't need a private assessment after all.
@@ionescho this^ he mentioned that the book is extremely helpful for those who cannot find a clinician. Im about to buy the book. I have nothing to loze
@@joes1941how did it go? Did you buy the book ?
That getting off the toilet thing just helped my back.
I'm a common guy with back pain but this guy is something else ❤️❤️❤️
Very interesting
thank you. He makes the material very relatable. takes a great mind to do that.
An Afterthought: The most important part of it is a psychological one. When I get knocked down with it, now I know I will get back up - his program has put hope into a very dark place , the rest is down to patience and perseverance ... you will get back up...
Because NO ONE makes $$$ in these simple corrections, Professor!! Bless you 🥰 if you're an athlete, sure.. 💰💰
He makes money and so do his clinicians. $1500.00 for the first visit. Followed by $350 follow-up visits. Book sales. Speeches. BS products. Video "consultation". They all make money off our pain and suffering. Selling false hope.
@@7THxSIGN how do you know it is false
@@kadijaish I spent thousands of dollars seeing a McGill Master Clinician. Did the 3 hour in person assessments and multiple follow ups. Even had a video call with Brian Carroll. I read Back Mechanic and The Gift of Injury. Practiced their rehab program daily for over a year. It did nothing for my pain.
Your only hope for getting plain free is time and not re-injuring it. Could take a year. Could take a decade. It’s possible it wlll never get better as well. That’s where surgery comes in. Disc once injured are NEVER the same. Don’t believe all this BS UA-cam “consultation” experts. They just want your money.
@@7THxSIGN try prolotherapy or prp , where they use stem cells to make those discs repair themselves better than before and almost as new but not as good as new , more like 80 Percent to that of a new disc
Does anyone know what Dr. Mcgill recommends for maignes syndrome?
Did these for over a year. Read Back Mechanic and Gift of Injury. Had a video call with Brian Carroll. Saw a McGill Master Clinician in person for the 3 hour assessment and follow ups. Spent thousands of dollars. All this did absolutely nothing for my L4/L5 disc bulge. I am still in daily pain.
This is saddening to hear cus I have severe back pain
@@BigDees19 I'm sorry you are going through this, but I understand. How long have you been in pain and what have you tried?
I’m sorry you’re still in pain! Did your mri show any hemangiomas or anything else besides the obvious culprits?
@@RU-rf5bk thank you. My MRI showed the disc bulge at L5. There was nothing else noted.
@7THxSIGN how are you getting on now?
He needs to give some solution .Not all can visit him .That will be his contribution to humanity
He has two books and clinicians on his website he has personally trained around the world
He gives solutions in the books he’s written and in the multitude of interviews he’s given.. you gotta look it up he’s not gonna deliver it to you…
Omg! The right toe went numb this morning when I went for a run!! I’ve had some back issues for the last week where I have problems my lower back is spasming and I can’t stand up straight. I guess now I know what’s up!
Did you manage to resolve the issue?
Just received his book to improve back health. Really good stuff!
Minute 09:00 till 10:00 . If somebody visits a clinician for 20 years and has no solution , why would they visit the clinician , when they see that they dont get a solution ?
Wow!!!! He’s amazing. I wish I could get an appointment with him.
My MRI showed dehydration of the intervertebral disc and degeneration of mixed Μodic of the epiphyseal plaques for O5-I1 and O4-O5 and dehydration of the intervertebral disc for O4-O3 and O3-O2. Pain is located in the lower back area only (about belt height). Legs are pain free. Are there any streches/exercises that could help healing the discs?
Discs heal on their own with time, you need a specific assessment and specific exercises, because everyone is unique. So with these you can adapt the tissues, strengthen the core, so they take off pressure off the spine.
Modic changes are really difficult to address. Mine are type 1 at L5-S1 - doing red light therapy (with near infrared light) has helped my pain a lot.
@@vidz953what's the difference in infrared red light or red light or near-infrared red light
Why is it difficult to find a good back pain physio in the UK?
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USA has some of the best I have looked at AMIT Dr Buhler
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49:20 help with a bench
55:19 bony callusing, kyphoplasty
I have back pain that is causing pain in my back and si joint. I recently had nerve ablation. What can I do to avoid this pain again?
Tarlov cysts.. read your own MRI and if it mentions TCs send it to Dr Frank Feigenbaum in TX for a free consult. I don’t work for him but I’m sick and tired of radiologists and doctors not mentioning that TCs can and do cause pain.
Que pena que no esta en español 😭
How does one find a doctor or chiropractor who is trained by him? I know I can’t see him, but I’m almost 67, and have had back pain since I was a teenager. It’s gotten worse, and I can’t move by the afternoon because I’m on my feet. I’m only 4’ 9”, and I’m single, so I have to lift things by myself. I also have a lor… something. It’s not a posture problem. It’s a spinal deformity. I don’t know how to treat it. My pain doctor just want to give me meds, injections that I can’t take, and an implant that goes near your spine. I would try that, but I’m so reactive whenever I have surgery and almost died on the table from breast implant removal, and I developed a bacterial infection that was potentially deadly. I don’t want to live the rest of my life in this pain. I want to enjoy my time left!
Internet for McGill method trained physical therapists.
And do the “golfers pickup” do not bend at the waist. Keep your back straight no bending or twisting. Strengthen the core. McGill stresses walking too. Have you had an MRI? You must have scoliosis..?
Where can one get a McGill assessment??
Joel Proskewitz is your man. London based. Check him out www.performancerx.co.uk/joel-proskewitz
I’m working on my qualification 🤓
Joel
Fred Braithwaite(UA-camr) looks just like Tony Goldwyn as Carl Bruner from the movie "Ghost"(1981) with Patrick Swavze,Whoopi Goldberg's and Demi Moore.
I'm wondering how much is just to speak with you and check your x Ray and mri😔
Hey. Check out www.disc-pro.com
Anyone know how to contact Stuart mcgill
All his info is on www.backfitpro.com 👍
Can this sort of physiotherapy actually fix a Spondy grade 2 (L4/L5) combined with a disc bulge ? Sure it might help but - it is surely never going to fix a mechanical problem like this is it ?
Hey. How are you getting on? I have just set up a spine specialist service www.disc-pro.com if you are still in need. Prof McGill has just done another amazing podcast discussing this with Peter Attia
I have an extra vertebrae in my spine.. L6 . I don't know if this is the cause of my back pain when I lie down or sit for extended periods.
I also have the extra l6 and have extreme herniation disc pain at that joint. It has to be linked .
We humans have wonderful differences. Just because it is different does not necessarily mean it is the cause of pain. It will be an environmental exposure to a physiological weakness. Modifying movements, postures and loads will help.
21:35 bracing stiffening psttern against pain trigger.
works a dream for certain instabilities. make sure you have an accurate diagnosis.
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If you have been diagnosed with mild osteoarthritis in the lower back - is there a way to reverse it?
Clinically, Arthritis cannot be reversed. The bones/deformity that have overgrown, cannot shrink on their own. Arthritis also means bone-bone friction mostly because of reduction in joint space or loss of lubricating fluid or loss of cartilage. But when the condition is mild, one can manage it in much better way then someone who has moderate to severe OA.
@@techBuffy Does ozone injection work in reversing or curing osteoarthritis?
Osteoarthritis is not necessarily a pain generator. It depends on what triggers your pain and what makes it feel better. Have you had any input as yet?
@@stronglinesphysio9130 The X-ray showed basic wear and tear - that's what the doctor said.
I heard that ozone injections are helpful.
Do you agree?
Would stem cells work for a herniated disc? The science is new in that area from what I can tell.
The issue is not the disc being injured but how the disc can to be injured. If you don’t fix that then you are just going to re-injure the disc - stem cells or not. Like giving an alcoholic a new liver but they carry on drinking.
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Upper thoracic herniations from T1-T4. And facet arthosis down in L4-S1. Nobody can seem to help. Just wanna give me pills. I’m so frustrated. Previous ran full marathon in 2020 felt great. Since, lots of money spent and time. Yes, understand covid hasn’t helped but not many doctors wants to help get to the root cause and help heal. But if the statistics say 90+% don’t need surgery why aren’t more people being helped? No money in fixing, healing and there is no such thing as cures right? Just venting a bit. Praying for healing for you all as well.
Try out his book. I’m about to do the same.
@@joes1941 Thanks I actually got the book about 4 weeks ago the moment after I saw this video.
@@felicianoshields2289 I’m going to do the same. I’m about 5k deep and over a year on tramadol & a lot of weeks missed at work. I used be active & hit the gym 5x a day. I totally understand your suffering & hope to see you make a recovery
please let me know this video summary with Korean. I can't understand English well.😮💨
What about climbing stairs ? Is that good or bad for a weak/sore low back
It depends
@@HendayAllStar I’ve been stair climbing since I posted,backs fine now
Are you climbing them or just walking up and down them.
Strengthen the core then you can prob do all the stairs you want..
Have had back pain for 35 years. I'm in pain right now . 😞 Laying in my bed trying to get comfortable so I can sleep tonight.
Have you ever had an mri?
@@eastcoastkickz4891 yes I have had an MRI.. Didnt show anything but arthritis . Pain radiates into my hip and lower right side of my lower back and when it's real.bad it goes up to mid back on right side and down to my calf. On side of my leg not down the back.except my right buttock has a numb sensation . A lot of inflammation along with numbness from back of my right hip down to the ankle . Had this for since since my 30 's .. I'm 67 now.. I exercise and walk everyday and go to chiro and physio. I get some relief there but if I do house work or any lifting or anything movement that's repetitive it's triggered . Yard work ,shoving snow brings it on with a vengeance.. so needless to say I avoid doing anything but the bare essentials , like dishes and bed and dusting , laundry. Anything else and I'm knackered . 😱
@@triciaodonnell7026 when you do anything considered it s a heavy work, please wear a support belt or lifting belt. Dont wear it 247 cuz it weaken your abs. But once in a while it is okay.
Do you take calcium and omega 3s to help with bone loss and joint stiffness. There’s a wealth of info online and on UA-cam try it to see what works for you. And like McGill says if you continue bad lifting and bending behaviors you won’t get well. Back pain isn’t a genie in a bottle miracle you gotta do the work to get better..
@@triciaodonnell7026 look up nerve flossing, good luck.
it is the same as tennis coaching,,,,,
.. the evolutionary price we pay for upright walking, weakspot L4/L5/S1 (and sitting on a chair all day gaves it the rest) ^^
Obviously Dr McGill thinks sitting at a desk causes back pain. But even if I retire, how can I avoid sitting at all? What am I supposed to do for the better part of the day? Stand all day? Sitting in a recliner causes more backpain. So, I am not getting this answer from Dr McGill's videos, what are we supposed to do all day if not sit. How about just lying on bed? does it help?
The best position is the next position. Ive heard this once...i think the key is to switch position often throughout the day..i got a standing desk and switch often and stretch every so often in between task, hope it helps. I do miss sitting.... driving around and traveling is still an issue🤷♀️
Hey. So for certain types of back pain - sitting will hurt. It is very much dependant on the structures that are at fault and generating pain. If sitting it a pain trigger then we need to look at posture, we need to look at muscular endurance around your spine and the time you are sat. Check out www.disc-pro.com
Did McGill refered to the cognitive functional therapy method? (O'Sullivan)
Single seater seats are for mermaids, people should use the dynamic two seater seat!
I'm disabled with degenerative disk disease and scoliosis. Suffering, epidural injections and RFA abrasions lumbar spine and medications,,,,,,,
Hey. Apologies for the delay. Are you getting the help you need?
Hmmm sometimes I'm a soth and at other times I'm a warrior.
Wow this video made me way more depressed! I need to see Stuart because he would know where me pain is coming from but dont know how. I have seen so many poor practitioners , 11k spent, 6 docs, 2 chrios, 7 pts, etc and no answers! Lateral gluteal pain to the left of the si joint to hip and down almost side of leg to back of knee, with jolts, glute muscle spasms etc, NIGHTMARE!
Try with PRI (postural restoration institute) you may be in a pattern
Visit backfitpro dot com and look up McGill practitioners. I’m also doverosx on the gram.
@@BrodeyDoverosx ya i dont want his practitioners , I need him
It's sad that most people out there have their certificates all over the walls and they don't know shit on how to help you. This man can but you'll never see him.
Best of luck to you I also spent a lot of money after 5k I decided to just stop waisting money my back pain has gotten much better I had to stop doing heavy weight and so light workouts for my lower body if I AGGRAVATE my low back I go to my massage guy and it helps.
I really wonder
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NHS expertise… take a 6 months of holidays and pain killers
Walking hurts me
Tarlov cysts…
This is the definition of word salads
Hey Jasper. Sometimes medical jargon gets in the way. Get in touch if you’d like a clear explanation.
@@stronglinesphysio9130 Yes, it most certainly does.but anyways, no thank you, I do appreciate that offer but this one is way over my head. No disrespect, much love to you. May God Bless.
None of these exercises helped me especially after damaging back surgery and nerve problems
Hey Tony, sorry to hear that. Did you see a competent physio for a specific diagnosis and rehab plan? If not, check out www.disc-pro.com.
A Podcaster who is not willing to invest more than 1 GBP or Dollar in a microphone?
Hey man. I am not a podcaster. I just used lock down time wisely to put the very best information from legends like Stu out there for you.
Dr. McGill has a lot of knowledge but I am always perturbed by his arrogant side. It tends to emerge in every interview at some point. He also does not really like to share any actionable advice and instead looks down upon lesser therapists from a very high throne. This young British therapist interviewing him is caught like a deer in headlights and a lamb to the slaughter.
I think you’re mistaking his arrogance for his passion to try to get across very complicated subject matter to the common public. He wants to help people in pain and is trying to explain his knowledge and experience in the most digestible way possible. He shares a ton of actionable items. Read his book or watch some interviews of his. And in I wholeheartedly disagree about the host. I thought he did great and asked the most important questions in the little time he had to get the most valuable subject matter out of McGill.
You must be watching a different man than me. Stuart McGill is as humble as they come. He is correct about most practitioners, they don't care for the individual. They don't have time. Get his book Back Mechanic and follow his program precisely. Or, you can just continue bashing the messenger.
This man has spent decades on his craft and spent a lot of energy on writing books, he’s not going to give tons of free information when it’s all in his books that are wonderfully illustrated.
I might normally agree with you and I also originally had a similar opinion but honestly after studying two of his books and applying them the man has bragging rights A real scientist in my opinion
Yes McGill gets irritated by the amount of misinformation and doctors treating back pain simply for $$. It’s also not just about a doctor visit and getting fixed YOU must put in the effort to get better. Back pain isn’t a simple fix and fixing learned behaviors isn’t ez. I think he’s arrogant but he’s brilliant.
Hi Professor, what is your email? If I may