Since the posting of this video, I have put in an additional 25 hours to test netcode improvements after the most recent patch. I can confirm that I have only run into one laggy match and seems like the online is fixed. Don’t know if it’s because they patched things well or because of the game now only having 10% of its playerbase left means that there is less stress on servers, but the online works great now
You have no idea how badly I wish I could agree about the online state. 12 Dcs today, every other game works fine. im with you man, this had so much going for it, the quest for money destroyed its gameflow.
Okay I agree with everything you said I was hyped I am a free to play player and was so interested in really getting into this title but after beta it's a shit show yeah free to play doesn't mean pay to win. WTF WB they have enough money to swim in but no they got to screw up a game I want to succeed badly. It's fun but Lord the amount of time to unlock players is crazy. So I'm stuck also the game play is a bunch of spammy freezy mess. But I hope the devs really respond to a quick update or something else to help get the gems. And Characters. Anyway great vid.
@@twistedrivera I realize I'm done with multiverse I'm officially quiting the game it's not fun to play and i am tired of getting mad over lag or losing to a ww ,joker ,or Harley or saggy with no skills just basic moves that are op
Somehow, Multiverse surpassed Blizzard’s f up. At least in Overwatch, you can still play the base game and unlock all the characters. Having every character locked behind a paywall is disgusting.
Since zaslav said that every game they will make will be focusing on monetization and live services... yeah, I don't trust anything coming out from them for the next... few years
Another thing that really makes the game unplayable is the stage list. Thank god they got rid of dexters but holy shit we still have these stages where I’m fighting the stage half the time and not my opponent.
it’s weird cause I always feel at a extreme disadvantage on the mojo jojo stage I’ll beat someone three times in a row but once it comes to that stage they end up beating me or basically almost
Yeah why are we forced to play on Townsville or the game of thrones stages where’s the good layouts with no hazards All that time and they didn’t include a PS2 or town and city or a battlefield
Yea I get fucking Townsville every third map I play. I lose way more than I win on that map and that laser that insta kills you is the dumbest shit I’ve seen for a hazard. It’s like they want to force everyone to play that map more than any of the others.
They took about 1 year to come back with only 3 characters and 2 stages. What an absolute joke considering they ruined the whole game due to speed, camera, 4 currencies, disconnect bugs etc
Im still sore about them retroactively saying it was a "beta" after marketing the game in competitive seasons just like a released title. Also STILL NO RANKED MODE?!
If you pay attention to their social medias, they wanted to test the waters before adding Ranked If they had added it in the state the game was you would've complained about that too
I have theory that after the major production and massive failure of Suicide Squad WB had to make back some money so they forced Player First Games to turn Multiversus into a complete nightmare.
Honestly, I think these changes happened before suicide squad flopped. Warner bros said in an investor call that even though the game flopped, they were going to pursue more live service games as the single player market was too “risky”.
Blame the producers (WB) for pushing the Player First Games (the devs) to release a half finished game along with making it extremely consumer unfriendly to try to squeeze as much money out of it as possible. Look at the past few AAA games WB has produced... It's usually never the devs doing this shit, it's greedy corporate over reaching. Edit: I said nothing about how PFG is doing a SHIT job of balancing the game along with the lack of transparency and communication. Stop putting words in my mouth.
No I won't blame WB. They set targets but I guarantee nobody at WB told tony and the other devs to make these garbage changes. That is developers not caring or being lazy and nothing mor3
@@theyluvmono Yeah ngl it bothers me how many people are pushing any and all blame onto WB when some of the well known changes HAD to have been the developers' decision and not things WB would care about. I get it, corporation bad, but pretending as if PFG is completely blameless will get people nowhere.
@@Hinokami777 I have no problem with them slowing it down but I will agree PFG is doing a horrible job of updating this game overall. All the characters have some sort of 0-death cheese. Yet they won't release a ranked mode to focus on "character balance". I just want them to add back the fucking buffer settings.
The sad thing is that it really shouldn't be too far gone to save... But WB is the publisher, and I can only assume PFG bought into their live-service pitch the way Rocksteady did and thus went all in on making these stupid stupid _stupid_ changes.
I thought this game was going to be huge. I bought the most expensive founders pack. With a grand total of 5.2 hours played since its original launch, I think it's safe to say that I'm a massive idiot.
Nah. The gems aren't something to make the rifts mode easier, they are a mandaotry grind requirement. And they barely matter in Crushing difficulty and up. Crushing difficulty is bullshit, AI does 10x damage compared to you
Crushing can be completed. The real BS is the insanity difficulty. The Ai is broken. Player first does not want anyone “Unlocking” agent smith early. If anybody does “unlock” him, its because they paid over $100+ on glemium for their gem level to be over level 9.
@@Anau_jiram97 not by me playing in sub 30 fps, because my good PC broke (GPU fried). Every level requires like 5 tries for me and my mental can't handle being absolutely fucking railed by bullshit AI with bullshit damage.
@@ALEX19960609 if you’re stuck on a mission, use a different fighter. Sometimes just depends on who youre using. Jake is the easiest character to cheese a match with. Up special, up normal 2x.
Changing engines is the kiss of death to a project. I'm sure they felt they needed to change engines to "fix" some issues, but all it does is effectively reset any progress they made from the first two tests to zero. That's how it feels (and is) worse. They'd have to plow however long it took to make the original alpha/beta back into development again just to get back to where they were, let alone fix anything.
Yeah I feel that switch was a bad choice, but if they knew how taxing it was going to be, then I believe the should've released later this year or next year. Maybe if they did that, then things would've gone different because I'll be honest, I completely forgot about Multiversus until they made an announcement to be coming back. Waiting another year would've been perfectly fine with me and would have been excited to jump right back into a complete game.
Honestly, given that we we've seen from MK1, another WB game pushed out the door before it was ready and had monetization issues, I'm not that surprised that Multiversus is in the state that it's in. Another game to add to the list where we got to wait for the game to hopefully get fixed after release. That is if they don't just give up on it like Suicide Squad
It's 100% my favorite platform fighter aside from Smash. I'm hoping they make the game better within the next year and the playerbase gives them another chance, but I feel like this was the best chance to do it and now it's going to be extremely difficult to do so.
@@L00ney_yy ????? Putting over 100 hours into the game, buying the $100 version of the game, flying out to EVO to compete for the game, and keeping up with the game screams that I hate the game? You got me.
I’ve got about 60 hours on the PS4 version of the game (Keep in mind some of that is menus, load times and freezes/crashes) I did not play the beta at all The only character I’ve purchased with real money was Joker Aside from Banana, Joker and Shaggy I own: Bugs, Gizmo, Harley, Jason, Stripe, Tom&Jerry, Velma and Wonder Woman I think people kinda blow the character grind out of proportion because you get fighter currency from leveling up your characters, your account, the PVE mode and the battle pass (even in the free track) Considering it’s free to play and I own a third of the roster having only spent $10, I don’t think it’s as bad as people say Just look at Brawlhalla as a comparison, it might have a bigger roster but the grind is way more harsh in comparison That’s the only thing I’ll defend against in this video, the rest is spot on unfortunately
Your saying this because you didn’t play the bata getting characters in the bata was so mf easy all you needed to do was play matches and do challenges and you could have got gold (old currency used to get fighters and some variants) I kid you not if you played the bata for 1-2 weeks you would have just a little over half the characters if you were a hard grinder then you’d have them all it’s so much harder now and Ik the game sucks bc people don’t have everyone in just glad I played the bata
The 2 biggest issues is 1)WB and player first constantly pushing the envelope on what they can get away with. Taking away game modes and increasing grind to make battlepass impossible. 2. The devs being almost disrespectfully tone-deaf. The community want certain characters and modes and the devs will defiantly just go the other direction with whatever they feel like doing. Then wonder why the buzz died 😅 because the devs are obsessed with the 90's and niche stuff people arent asking for
I'm really surprised that as someone who went to EVO for the MV Beta, you didn't once mention the mechanics changes in this video and it makes me really sad and disheartened that nobody in the community is complaining about the shift from Beta to Alpha's ACTUAL MECHANICS cuz with no one talking about it the MV devs will never fix it 🥺 I'm talking about the removal of Wavedashing, good Fast Fall, better fluid feeling movement, whiff cancel neutral, momentum shifts, stronger DI, longer lasting stocks, more unique combo systems that weren't just BnBs - everything I feel that actually made the game feel like the game - lilY!
I feel the same, based off being a beta player returning. I am surprised in the lack of balance, and it just shows they do not play their own game, and really never did. They could have brought in free beta players at many points, to test features before releasing, but it's all just blindly throwing things at the wall.
Its okay to not like how it is right now, but you're making shit up by claiming they don't play their own game. You also assuming this is somehow done intentionally is also kinda disappointing
Speaking of Riots fighting game, I highly doubt they'll fumble the back like Multiversus and Warner Bros. If we use Valorant as an example, they went out of their way to do their homework and hire arguably the best of the best to work on Valorant, including it's map design and anti cheat. You can say the same thing for Project L, as they hired the people who made rollback netcode, not to mention riot has 15 years of Live Service experience. I'd be more surprised if they fumbled the bag with Project L.
If you want to see a more in depth breakdown, this one smash youtuber named MockRock gave a really detailed review of the game and it's issues. You gave a good review that definitely goes over the surface but there's a lot more context to be heard here. They did a swap from UE 4 to UE 5 and had to rebuild the game, causing a lot of development struggles. They definitely needed another 5-6 months to kink out issues but i'm assuming WB just wanted it to be out as soon as possible. Unfortunate but we can only hope they'll lock in and turn this game around.
I just watched that video this morning. He expressed everything that was wrong with the game and gave good positives, the only thing I disagreed with him on was the slower pace of the game, but other than that everything was spot on. UE5 switch like you said should have made them release 5-6 months later this year or next year.
@@twistedrivera Thats fair tbh. Me personally I lose games all the time because I try to use meter aggressively to dodge jump and shit. This puts you in burnout and punishes you for using the more fun mechanics of the game. Imo dodge meter punishing you for trying to play fast is easily the game systems biggest problem. But with the unreal engine thing, I completely agree and i’m glad you do too
You literally took the words right out of my mouth I was a close beta player gave away beta codes I was the number one superman at the end of the open beta and I can’t even play the game I try to give it chance after chance but it’s not quite something that I understand, how do you get all of this from what the community asked of you , me personally I was one of the few player that had a lot of hope in the game considering how much fun I had durning the alpha and open beta hopefully they can turn things around cause this would really leave a sour taste in my mouth to be done like this with such high expectation thank you for your story and transparent feed back.
Honestly I’m okay with how the game is, all I ask is Damian Wayne as an assassin, spinel as an assassin OR mage, and Robot Boy as a bruiser but with his transformation
If I am feeling too happy and content in my life, I just play some multiversus, get lost in the bazillion currencies and grind traps, then I can get back to work cutting myself
I feel like people aren't talking about this enough and Multiversus is dying another slow death as it did previously. I've played a dozen gatcha/battlepass focused games daily in the past and none have made me as miserable as multiversus has this past month and a half, which is such an achievement because I actually like the gameplay and find it to have a lot of charm. The only thing keeping me going are final skins of the season and I don't really see a point when I'm so close to leaving the game entirely. It truly is a generational fumble :')
"The game is too hard for our older execs to play. Take it offline, slow it down so Tim can play with his grandson and make it make us more money." - Probably A Warner Bros Exec
I've tried playing ths stupid game and it crashed every single time i tried creating a match i fucking deleted it. Like before the update there was no crashing and i had way more fun than whatever this game is now.
I'm just gonna say it. You can't make a good fighting game without a block button. Divine knockout and nick brawl stars are just the ones you *know* that flopped, and brawlhalla was smart and made their game mobile before they could die. People think shields ruin the pacing of the game, but all you have to do is look at wonder woman to understand that is the exact opposite sentiment.
It's funny that you uploaded this AFTER the patch that fixed the server issues. Highly recommend trying this game out today with fixed server issues. And no, you don't have to spend 40hours to get one character, this is just straight up a lie. One person did a rough math at how manu hours it would take to unlock a single character without taking all different ways to unlock them under consideration.
I played in the aloha and beta, I think this game is totally cooked imo. Not only would they need to speed it up but they would also need to move the camera back again but I don’t think they will do either of those things personally
I don't think they will either. I can see why they did it now after putting in more hours into the game with whiff punishing being a legitimate thing now and the game not being a spamming dodge fest, but the input delay makes the speed feel sluggish even if you can still move pretty quick when using beta dash techniques
I still have hope for this game, I hope it doesn’t die, it’s a good game with issues (btw the devs are constantly fixing these issues) yeah it won’t be as popular as smash bros or on the same level but I don’t want it to die
There’s tons of little things missing too. Like custom online matches don’t have unlimited time and me and 2 friends wanted to do free for all but it’s kinda cheap when it’s not stocks so there is a ton of kill stealing. Just simple options that aren’t there.
One month later. The battle pass has gotten MUCH better! The currency is still a nightmare but ATLEAST unlike in beta there is a TON of diffrent skins to choose from. Lag has continued to be nonexistent for me even with the new netcode, but i know thats not the same experience for everyone. My only issue is that they NEED to Improve hit boxes, and increase the dodge distance since the perk was removed. Characters kits wouldnt even be half as broken if the dodging mechanic was simply just fine tuned. You will litterally dodge attacks but still get clipped amyway due to the dodge not moving you barley anywhere and your hit box getting tagged. Also maybe consider adopting smash bros shield system
Ultimately the biggest mistake was changing the game's engine. The UE4 build just needed to be iterated upon not rebuilt from the ground up.. They're literally trying to catch up AGAIN after 1yr.
Yeah, they really shot themselves in the foot with that change. I didn't think it was a huge deal, but looking into it some more, it literally was a rebuild of the game. Taking that into account and seeing how we are still missing features or have noticed how things have been taken away now makes more sense.
I was lucky enough to get into the alpha and I just dont get it. They had a chance to fix the game and they drop the ball twice. We let them cook and the food somehow came out raw.
Player First Games are comprised of ex-Riot Games and Blizzard employees. They’re no strangers to how online multiplayer games work. They’re pros. Coupled with how small their team is, and WB’s abysmal management, MultiVersus is in a rough spot with these circumstances
I swear they wasted an entire year just upgrading the graphics into a new engine. Further proof that video games are not made by gamers anymore since they focused on Graphics while making everything else about the game worst than the beta.
Hopefully with the big patch coming in a few days most these issues willl be fixed. Netcode has improved a lot from launch and input delay is getting a setting added. The really fascinating thing is how so many features snd options removed drom beta to full release? Unreal 5 removes that much? Hard to believe.
It's really disappointing how many bugs the game launched with but PFG has been patching at a good rate. It's probably too early to say that it doesn't have a chance, this game has so much appeal that if they eventually get it right people will come back. I'd say the state of the game in a couple months should give us an idea on if WB/PFG have what it takes to fix it and keep it going.
I got into the closed beta from Twitch Drops, and good god did this game fall off. I used to play this game daily for months back in its open beta, but I refuse to play this game regularly, if not, at all. I couldn't even play a proper online match with my friend Kyle without the server having a heart attack. And even as someone who has the entire roster unlocked, the insanely slow unlock rates on top of the terrible monetization frustrates me so much, where people like the previously mentioned Kyle can't get any of the stuff they want without grinding 35+ hours in a game that they don't like. What happened? Like, seriously, what actually happened behind the scenes?!
i was super excited for mvs to be back to just for it to take out the most crucial things that made it fun. it just feels so much more clunky and not as fluid and fast as the beta andd my hitboxes still feel weird so sad that it’s struggling.
Honestly to me I feel like the game still needs a bit of work they def fixed a lot of the problems that are said in this video ( iron giant having infinites, the net code/lagging out of games) and they seem to be listening to the community this is something that’s going to take time and I’m loving this game so far and if they keep us updated on what they r trying to do I’m sure this will be a great game just not a big one but something like brawlhalla I’m down to see what characters come out overtime.
Yeah I feel like this second time around was their best chance of pulling everyone in and proving they were the actual Smash contender. It really sucks that the game turned out this way
I think it can be saved but its on thin ice. Here's what would save it: 1) FIX THE ONLINE CONNECTION. 2) Fix Battle Pass leveling. The gains are abysmal and daily missions that require you to spend real money is atrocious. 3) Pve is tedious and boring. Make it shorter with a higher quality of challenges (like a shorter smash ultimate classic mode) 4) consistently balance characters. 5) refer to step 1 Multiversus was a game i was/am still hyped for but these issues are slowly burning away that excitement to play the game. Which is wild because this game could've matched the level of smash had all the ideas landed.
Man I still have 40 character tickets from the beta.. at this rate I’ll never get to use them.. I spent way too much on the beta because I was really excited about this game and it hasn’t paid dividends
40??? I don't even know if that's how many we came with lol, I believe I have 14-15 left since I purchased everyone with the tickets that came with the ultimate edition. Hopefully you get to use the further down the line when the game feels more polished
@@twistedrivera yeah I bought the $50 middle grade bundle or whatever but then I wanted the golden font name and all that stuff so I bought the $100 version later.. I’ll be trying to spend those tickets for years
I still really think it's stupid that they have a exhaust or dodge meter. Why should I get essentially punished in a sense for whiff punishing/dodging a enemy attack and it take meter?! Mind you most of these characters (Harley, joker, shaggy) thrive with even being in exhaust mode. I just think it's really stupid
Its really sad how this game turnt out, and i was really excited to see Jason get added in multiversus too, the game has so many problems, that it's kinda unplayable.
I had 130 hours in the beta and this was the first fighting game I wanted to pursue becoming a pro in, so I was more than a little disappointed in what was being offered on full release. I believe that this comes down to WB interference, because the game was not ready to be released and it's clear having to switch over to Unreal Engine 5 set the devs back in a big way. I feel like i'm playing a worse version of the beta that is now bloated with more features of which I can't even appreciate because of how much else has been taken away, and all the egregious monetization has WB shenanigans written all over it. They should have ran a one month closed beta to get feedback with the new changes, fix what needs to be fixed, and released the game at the end of the year. I love this game, and I want it to succeed, but it feels doomed right now.
Hate to bust people bubble but just alone switching from unreal engine 4 to 5 in under a year in unheard of…. Give the a fucking break they have worked there ass off for us…. Yes there is problems and guess what THEY ARE FIXING IT…
Right. I get that, but if they knew the game as is right now is clearly not ready for release because of the engine switch... then why ruin your reputation and trust of the players with a not even half baked product? It doesn't matter if they are fixing stuff, they had a whole year to do that and I doubt the playerbase will recover from this, but I hope I'm wrong. Like I said in the video, it is possibly and more than likely the ones in suits dictating the decision to release in this state because no way did PlayerFirstGames decide this was the right thing to do.
They even removed attack decay so all you see is nonsensical spamming and now it works in their favor every time I am matched up against a shaggy I tell my friends “how much you want to bet that he will start the match with side special….” The funny thing about all this is I’m always right
@@Hinokami777 that’s crazy they said that cause over dodging isn’t that much of a problem it helps you maneuver better helps speed up the pace of a the fight and it makes it seem like a dragon ball z fight that’s actually not an issue spamming like an idiot and getting rewarded for it now that’s an issue
having played a TON of the beta and getting to top 25 iron giant, i actually don’t mind the slower paced gameplay with like the 30 frames of input lag. maybe i have stockholm syndrome but you kind of get used to it after a while, and i prefer this system than the beta where everyone was dodge spamming/canceling everything they did so punishes were difficult to come by besides that, yeah im genuinely confused as to what they were doing with literally everything else. the ui sucks, the new maps are hot dog shit, there’s no ranked from the get go, and they’re drip feeding characters instead of releasing a ton of new ones from the get go. the hype from this game was because it was a free to play smash game where you could play as arya stark against superman. they should have doubled down on introducing characters for the actual release because otherwise the game doesn’t have much going for it
Alright since you don’t seem to be aware multiversus completely swapped engines during the hiatus it’s not a defence for all of it but that’s why they removed things
Yeah I knew they switched engines, but I didn't know how badly that affected them after doing more research after I posted this video. Taking that into consideration though, they should have released at the end of this year or sometime next year to fix current issues, bugs, and netcode.
After 3 weeks, I can say 2v2 feels way better than beta. They dropped a patch this past Tuesday that got rid of the Desync issues. My main 2v2 partner and i play every night. 1v1 on the other hand does not feel as exciting as it was in beta sadly, the game is advertised as a 2v2 and should be balanced around that mode
I was beta player. You didn't even list all the problems and was very generous. I don't think they can come back from this sadly. It's not like they can take another year again since last time they came back with less stuff. They would need to really kick the tree to save it. Make the game not free at this point and add what people is asking. then sell the rest of your characters as DLC. If they have the balls to do that they can still save it but I just do not see it happening.
It’s actually insane how bad they did at “developing” this game and anyone who tries to defend it needs to stop sucking the copium. The one major change they made that was positive was adding dodge stamina. Everything else just feels awful like taking kits away from characters (which they have only done more with patches while leaving characters like WW untouched somehow) to leaving in bugs to prioritize shit character balancing. This full release was such a step in the wrong direction and they show that they consistently won’t listen to the players with the updates. IG is still broken strong, whole DC cast + shaggy still dominating the whole roster.
Never said it wasn't. Game is extremely fun and has unique mechanics that aren't in other platform fighter, but everything else besides the gameplay is awful and a clear regression from the previous versions of the game.
Fighting games are meant to be small, also I feel like a lot of this is subjective, for example, you wait the month they need to work on netcoding then it'll actually feel better than beta IMO. Combos exist now but mismatches make it so it isn't a guarantee, its a lot of fun IMO, I haven't placed in evo or anything but I do have 6k wins and will always play
Their best chance to keep a playerbase was at launch with everything feeling fixed and complete. Fixes can come, but will people come back? I’m hoping the game does well, but it feels like they destroyed a lot of player’s trust with their launch.
I heard that apparently instead of fixing the net code, they slowed down the game and zoomed in the camera so even ignoring the monetization and modes, the gameplay is arguably a different game. In this case, can multiversus 1 be community hosted ? Perhaps. I waited for rerelease to play it but am not interested anymore. Love and blessings!
This game deserves it's downfall honestly. How the hell does the game get worse when it was supposed to be improved? 🤦🏾♂️ There was absolutely NO reason to slow the gameplay, scale the characters, and zoom the camera! 👈🏾 Those 3 things are why I quit the game and will NEVER return. 🤷🏾♂️
The slowed down gameplay is starting to grow on me a little after putting in almost 30 extra hours, but the state of release and such drastic changes to those coming back to the game are definite turn offs.
I loved the beta, my only problem was the netcode causing others to practically teleport. It took a while to keep up with experienced players but I caught on easily. Now they basically slowed the characters down to help with the netcode and it made me hate almost everything about the game. I was a fool to buy the founders pack in the beta version after they released this mess. If some of you like the way this plays well then I'm not stopping you and I hope you enjoy it tbh but for me? I'm good, uninstalled and moved on with my day.
No shot it comes back. It had hype behind it and disappointed and now has people calling its monetization predatory. When things like this happen people don’t come back, they don’t want to be let down again, the become bitter at the game. Overwatch 2 had much larger backing and while it took some time (due to the consistent lies and smoke and mirrors) the game is not doing well. It’s essentially on life support and players and streamers alike are looking for their exit strategy. Multiversus got a chance most games don’t get and used it to prey on the community. This game will fade into obscurity. It’s wasted potential and it’s sad.
With how unique and fun the game feels if you take everything else out, it really does suck. I’m sure PlayerFirstGames wanted to make something good, but WB more than likely ruined that
Can someone recommend me some fighting games to try out? I have loved this game until now I do not. This game is cooked but I still have an itch to plug something similar
As far as platform fighters go, this was the best one imo. Your best bet would probably be to wait for Rivals of Aether 2 and see if you like that one or hope this game gets a lot of fixes done in the future
The time it will reach the beta level most of the players would have left by then, unfortunately. They made a mistake not sure whether they were forced to upgrade the engine or not, but after that a lot of changes were made and a lot of things were removed. Its bit too much focused to make it pay to progress in xp gain and in rifts. Apart from that input delay is too much and connection errors are still there, along with that there are stuttering issues after latest update. They are trying but i dont know why WB is testing communities' patience for no reason, as they want to grab cash as fast as they can. Already knew I wouldn't be able to complete the battlepass because of the doubled xp gain needed to complete. I won't get also get most of the characters as quickly as i can. They have doubled the time and also doubled the price to get them.
Since the posting of this video, I have put in an additional 25 hours to test netcode improvements after the most recent patch.
I can confirm that I have only run into one laggy match and seems like the online is fixed.
Don’t know if it’s because they patched things well or because of the game now only having 10% of its playerbase left means that there is less stress on servers, but the online works great now
You have no idea how badly I wish I could agree about the online state. 12 Dcs today, every other game works fine.
im with you man, this had so much going for it, the quest for money destroyed its gameflow.
Okay I agree with everything you said I was hyped I am a free to play player and was so interested in really getting into this title but after beta it's a shit show yeah free to play doesn't mean pay to win. WTF WB they have enough money to swim in but no they got to screw up a game I want to succeed badly. It's fun but Lord the amount of time to unlock players is crazy. So I'm stuck also the game play is a bunch of spammy freezy mess. But I hope the devs really respond to a quick update or something else to help get the gems. And Characters. Anyway great vid.
@@twistedrivera I realize I'm done with multiverse I'm officially quiting the game it's not fun to play and i am tired of getting mad over lag or losing to a ww ,joker ,or Harley or saggy with no skills just basic moves that are op
Servers have been consistently dogshit for 4 months bro
Went from beta to beta 2.0 lol
To beta 0.5
More like: untested demo Version 1.0, they're still wasting their time on the bullshit microtransactions and getting people to love them.
nah, str8 back to alpha
@@sporetv57 they made their gg button a microtransaction 💀
"beta 2.0" actually implies a improvement, which we know ain't the case
That's what happens when publishers fuck with the developer's vision, this game went full blizzard mode
Somehow, Multiverse surpassed Blizzard’s f up. At least in Overwatch, you can still play the base game and unlock all the characters. Having every character locked behind a paywall is disgusting.
@@Memo-yh4nc having trouble grinding buddy?
@@VamPSyPoo Lol no. I just haven’t touched this game since I tried it when it rereleased.
Documentaries will be made about how hard WB fumbled this game.
"Do you remember Multiversus?"
Sadly, WB just can't make a game right nowadays.
Idk what's going on, they was kings
@@twistedrivera Z-man aka Zaslav, that’s what happened to them
Mk1 is really good…. But that’s it.
Beta had to be the real release cause there’s no way a game just come back this money hungry
Since zaslav said that every game they will make will be focusing on monetization and live services... yeah, I don't trust anything coming out from them for the next... few years
Warner Bros make a good product challenge
Yo final challenge: Let WB make a good game
Me: Oh hell naw yo ass tweakin!
Impossible 💀
WB didn't make this game. They just published it. Blame the devs for how bad it is.
Another thing that really makes the game unplayable is the stage list. Thank god they got rid of dexters but holy shit we still have these stages where I’m fighting the stage half the time and not my opponent.
Those stages with hazards were tournament legal at EVO too lmao. I remember having to play on the scooby doo stage with hazards
it’s weird cause I always feel at a extreme disadvantage on the mojo jojo stage I’ll beat someone three times in a row but once it comes to that stage they end up beating me or basically almost
Yeah why are we forced to play on Townsville or the game of thrones stages where’s the good layouts with no hazards
All that time and they didn’t include a PS2 or town and city or a battlefield
Yea I get fucking Townsville every third map I play. I lose way more than I win on that map and that laser that insta kills you is the dumbest shit I’ve seen for a hazard. It’s like they want to force everyone to play that map more than any of the others.
@@YMan-zo5kg that map is a nightmare for a zoner
They took about 1 year to come back with only 3 characters and 2 stages. What an absolute joke considering they ruined the whole game due to speed, camera, 4 currencies, disconnect bugs etc
It's because they switched to a new engine and had to remake everything from the ground up
@SR.PlayAlot64 There was literally no need to do that. Who ever decided on that is beyond stupid
Im still sore about them retroactively saying it was a "beta" after marketing the game in competitive seasons just like a released title.
Also STILL NO RANKED MODE?!
They took like 3 - 4 months to drop ranked the first time and now history is slowly repeating itself. Its sad.
They did say it was a beta i think but why did they have to make a battlepass for a freakin beta
@@robinsr4745 it also had 2 full seasons as a “ beta “
If you pay attention to their social medias, they wanted to test the waters before adding Ranked
If they had added it in the state the game was you would've complained about that too
Literally said beta when you booted the game up everyday…..
I have theory that after the major production and massive failure of Suicide Squad WB had to make back some money so they forced Player First Games to turn Multiversus into a complete nightmare.
Honestly, I think these changes happened before suicide squad flopped.
Warner bros said in an investor call that even though the game flopped, they were going to pursue more live service games as the single player market was too “risky”.
@@phabiorules the risky thing is really funny considering that hogwarts legacy, a single player rpg, was one of the fastest selling games of that year
@@phabiorules And then the vultures wonder why the Warner brand had been in decay
Blame the producers (WB) for pushing the Player First Games (the devs) to release a half finished game along with making it extremely consumer unfriendly to try to squeeze as much money out of it as possible. Look at the past few AAA games WB has produced... It's usually never the devs doing this shit, it's greedy corporate over reaching.
Edit: I said nothing about how PFG is doing a SHIT job of balancing the game along with the lack of transparency and communication. Stop putting words in my mouth.
The monitisation yes release dates aren’t necessarily there fault contracts just build around them that stops them from being able to delay the game
No I won't blame WB. They set targets but I guarantee nobody at WB told tony and the other devs to make these garbage changes. That is developers not caring or being lazy and nothing mor3
@@theyluvmono Yeah ngl it bothers me how many people are pushing any and all blame onto WB when some of the well known changes HAD to have been the developers' decision and not things WB would care about. I get it, corporation bad, but pretending as if PFG is completely blameless will get people nowhere.
@@theyluvmonoyeah wb didn’t say slow it down
@@Hinokami777 I have no problem with them slowing it down but I will agree PFG is doing a horrible job of updating this game overall. All the characters have some sort of 0-death cheese. Yet they won't release a ranked mode to focus on "character balance". I just want them to add back the fucking buffer settings.
I went from “Can’t wait to play this game” to “I can’t believe I have this game in my library”
The sad thing is that it really shouldn't be too far gone to save... But WB is the publisher, and I can only assume PFG bought into their live-service pitch the way Rocksteady did and thus went all in on making these stupid stupid _stupid_ changes.
Bought in, or forced to…
It's a free-to-play game published by WB. Why was anyone surprised.
I thought this game was going to be huge.
I bought the most expensive founders pack.
With a grand total of 5.2 hours played since its original launch, I think it's safe to say that I'm a massive idiot.
OOf that sucks dude
@@twistedrivera Live and learn.
How tf did anyone think that buying dlc for a beta is a good idea. A beta that is from WB as well
Nah. The gems aren't something to make the rifts mode easier, they are a mandaotry grind requirement. And they barely matter in Crushing difficulty and up. Crushing difficulty is bullshit, AI does 10x damage compared to you
Yup even though it say level 4 gem unlock required 😂
And can just ignore moves
Crushing can be completed. The real BS is the insanity difficulty. The Ai is broken. Player first does not want anyone “Unlocking” agent smith early. If anybody does “unlock” him, its because they paid over $100+ on glemium for their gem level to be over level 9.
@@Anau_jiram97 not by me playing in sub 30 fps, because my good PC broke (GPU fried). Every level requires like 5 tries for me and my mental can't handle being absolutely fucking railed by bullshit AI with bullshit damage.
@@ALEX19960609 if you’re stuck on a mission, use a different fighter. Sometimes just depends on who youre using. Jake is the easiest character to cheese a match with. Up special, up normal 2x.
Changing engines is the kiss of death to a project. I'm sure they felt they needed to change engines to "fix" some issues, but all it does is effectively reset any progress they made from the first two tests to zero. That's how it feels (and is) worse. They'd have to plow however long it took to make the original alpha/beta back into development again just to get back to where they were, let alone fix anything.
Yeah I feel that switch was a bad choice, but if they knew how taxing it was going to be, then I believe the should've released later this year or next year. Maybe if they did that, then things would've gone different because I'll be honest, I completely forgot about Multiversus until they made an announcement to be coming back. Waiting another year would've been perfectly fine with me and would have been excited to jump right back into a complete game.
Honestly, given that we we've seen from MK1, another WB game pushed out the door before it was ready and had monetization issues, I'm not that surprised that Multiversus is in the state that it's in.
Another game to add to the list where we got to wait for the game to hopefully get fixed after release. That is if they don't just give up on it like Suicide Squad
Yeah I'm already accepting that The Wonder Woman game is gonna suck
@@aledantih6524it is going to be live service by rumours (oh god)
It's still my favorite game currently. I really hope PFG will fix the problems and be a successful Smash rival.
Same
It's 100% my favorite platform fighter aside from Smash. I'm hoping they make the game better within the next year and the playerbase gives them another chance, but I feel like this was the best chance to do it and now it's going to be extremely difficult to do so.
@@twistedrivera You know you don’t have to lie to your audience. you obviously hate the game.
@@L00ney_yy ????? Putting over 100 hours into the game, buying the $100 version of the game, flying out to EVO to compete for the game, and keeping up with the game screams that I hate the game?
You got me.
I’ve got about 60 hours on the PS4 version of the game
(Keep in mind some of that is menus, load times and freezes/crashes)
I did not play the beta at all
The only character I’ve purchased with real money was Joker
Aside from Banana, Joker and Shaggy I own: Bugs, Gizmo, Harley, Jason, Stripe, Tom&Jerry, Velma and Wonder Woman
I think people kinda blow the character grind out of proportion because you get fighter currency from leveling up your characters, your account, the PVE mode and the battle pass (even in the free track)
Considering it’s free to play and I own a third of the roster having only spent $10, I don’t think it’s as bad as people say
Just look at Brawlhalla as a comparison, it might have a bigger roster but the grind is way more harsh in comparison
That’s the only thing I’ll defend against in this video, the rest is spot on unfortunately
Your saying this because you didn’t play the bata getting characters in the bata was so mf easy all you needed to do was play matches and do challenges and you could have got gold (old currency used to get fighters and some variants) I kid you not if you played the bata for 1-2 weeks you would have just a little over half the characters if you were a hard grinder then you’d have them all it’s so much harder now and Ik the game sucks bc people don’t have everyone in just glad I played the bata
And not only that but the gameplay felt way better in the bata believe it or not it’s much slower and relies on combos characters
The 2 biggest issues is
1)WB and player first constantly pushing the envelope on what they can get away with. Taking away game modes and increasing grind to make battlepass impossible.
2. The devs being almost disrespectfully tone-deaf. The community want certain characters and modes and the devs will defiantly just go the other direction with whatever they feel like doing. Then wonder why the buzz died 😅 because the devs are obsessed with the 90's and niche stuff people arent asking for
I'm really surprised that as someone who went to EVO for the MV Beta, you didn't once mention the mechanics changes in this video and it makes me really sad and disheartened that nobody in the community is complaining about the shift from Beta to Alpha's ACTUAL MECHANICS cuz with no one talking about it the MV devs will never fix it 🥺 I'm talking about the removal of Wavedashing, good Fast Fall, better fluid feeling movement, whiff cancel neutral, momentum shifts, stronger DI, longer lasting stocks, more unique combo systems that weren't just BnBs - everything I feel that actually made the game feel like the game - lilY!
I’m glad I didn’t have to pay for characters. I used keys to unlock them
I feel the same, based off being a beta player returning. I am surprised in the lack of balance, and it just shows they do not play their own game, and really never did. They could have brought in free beta players at many points, to test features before releasing, but it's all just blindly throwing things at the wall.
Its okay to not like how it is right now, but you're making shit up by claiming they don't play their own game. You also assuming this is somehow done intentionally is also kinda disappointing
Only returning players got all the love i feel bad for new players getting into the game
They all hate it too
We got no love at all.
played beta and bought the founders edition.. praying it gets better man
That was me 2 years ago bro lmaoooo. I'm hoping things look up soon
@@twistedrivera No you dont
@@L00ney_yy………
@@Hinokami777 What? He obviously doesn’t, the videos proof of that.
Speaking of Riots fighting game, I highly doubt they'll fumble the back like Multiversus and Warner Bros. If we use Valorant as an example, they went out of their way to do their homework and hire arguably the best of the best to work on Valorant, including it's map design and anti cheat.
You can say the same thing for Project L, as they hired the people who made rollback netcode, not to mention riot has 15 years of Live Service experience. I'd be more surprised if they fumbled the bag with Project L.
I'm hoping that's the case bro. It's looking really good from the footage we've seen so far
On the other hand if we use Legends of Runeterra as an example, it doesn't bode too well for Project L.
@@bulkbogan6235LoR was generally successful as a game IMO just not as an Esport.
@@happycamperds9917 so successful that they're stopped making PvP content and now just bringing the rest of PvP cards into PvE?
@@bulkbogan6235 runeterra was a good and polished game tho. Games can still fail while not having any problems
If you want to see a more in depth breakdown, this one smash youtuber named MockRock gave a really detailed review of the game and it's issues. You gave a good review that definitely goes over the surface but there's a lot more context to be heard here. They did a swap from UE 4 to UE 5 and had to rebuild the game, causing a lot of development struggles. They definitely needed another 5-6 months to kink out issues but i'm assuming WB just wanted it to be out as soon as possible. Unfortunate but we can only hope they'll lock in and turn this game around.
Finn's sword feels like you're using the dragon handle from sds but with no full counter
I just watched that video this morning. He expressed everything that was wrong with the game and gave good positives, the only thing I disagreed with him on was the slower pace of the game, but other than that everything was spot on.
UE5 switch like you said should have made them release 5-6 months later this year or next year.
@@twistedrivera Thats fair tbh. Me personally I lose games all the time because I try to use meter aggressively to dodge jump and shit. This puts you in burnout and punishes you for using the more fun mechanics of the game. Imo dodge meter punishing you for trying to play fast is easily the game systems biggest problem. But with the unreal engine thing, I completely agree and i’m glad you do too
You literally took the words right out of my mouth I was a close beta player gave away beta codes I was the number one superman at the end of the open beta and I can’t even play the game I try to give it chance after chance but it’s not quite something that I understand, how do you get all of this from what the community asked of you , me personally I was one of the few player that had a lot of hope in the game considering how much fun I had durning the alpha and open beta hopefully they can turn things around cause this would really leave a sour taste in my mouth to be done like this with such high expectation thank you for your story and transparent feed back.
Honestly I’m okay with how the game is, all I ask is Damian Wayne as an assassin, spinel as an assassin OR mage, and Robot Boy as a bruiser but with his transformation
If I am feeling too happy and content in my life, I just play some multiversus, get lost in the bazillion currencies and grind traps, then I can get back to work cutting myself
WB just bought Players First Games. This game is cooked 💀
I feel like people aren't talking about this enough and Multiversus is dying another slow death as it did previously. I've played a dozen gatcha/battlepass focused games daily in the past and none have made me as miserable as multiversus has this past month and a half, which is such an achievement because I actually like the gameplay and find it to have a lot of charm. The only thing keeping me going are final skins of the season and I don't really see a point when I'm so close to leaving the game entirely. It truly is a generational fumble :')
"The game is too hard for our older execs to play. Take it offline, slow it down so Tim can play with his grandson and make it make us more money." - Probably A Warner Bros Exec
I don’t mind micro-transactions, but the grinding being so slow and tedious makes me despise them.
Of course they worked in that year!! They figure out how to monetize the crap out of it
The chameleon twist 2 music absolutely took me for a ride. Unexpected but welcomed
I've tried playing ths stupid game and it crashed every single time i tried creating a match i fucking deleted it. Like before the update there was no crashing and i had way more fun than whatever this game is now.
I'm just gonna say it. You can't make a good fighting game without a block button. Divine knockout and nick brawl stars are just the ones you *know* that flopped, and brawlhalla was smart and made their game mobile before they could die. People think shields ruin the pacing of the game, but all you have to do is look at wonder woman to understand that is the exact opposite sentiment.
Rivals
@@MomoOnTheMic who?
@QuDaRage you can't call any game you don't like a flop lmao rivals was very successful and looking to be even more successful when 2 comes out
@@MomoOnTheMic it's called statistics, dawg.
Rivals of Aether has a parry system, And that game was wildly successful
It's funny that you uploaded this AFTER the patch that fixed the server issues. Highly recommend trying this game out today with fixed server issues. And no, you don't have to spend 40hours to get one character, this is just straight up a lie. One person did a rough math at how manu hours it would take to unlock a single character without taking all different ways to unlock them under consideration.
I played in the aloha and beta, I think this game is totally cooked imo. Not only would they need to speed it up but they would also need to move the camera back again but I don’t think they will do either of those things personally
I don't think they will either. I can see why they did it now after putting in more hours into the game with whiff punishing being a legitimate thing now and the game not being a spamming dodge fest, but the input delay makes the speed feel sluggish even if you can still move pretty quick when using beta dash techniques
@@twistedriverahella agree
I still have hope for this game, I hope it doesn’t die, it’s a good game with issues (btw the devs are constantly fixing these issues) yeah it won’t be as popular as smash bros or on the same level but I don’t want it to die
It's dead
@@chicken_saladit's not
@@ChirpyXC its dying on its death bed
For me, the game feels too unbalanced and slow. It lost whatever sparkle I saw on it during the beta and it feels like a chore to play.
There’s tons of little things missing too. Like custom online matches don’t have unlimited time and me and 2 friends wanted to do free for all but it’s kinda cheap when it’s not stocks so there is a ton of kill stealing. Just simple options that aren’t there.
I hate not having sticks it takes away the last man standing aspect.
One month later. The battle pass has gotten MUCH better! The currency is still a nightmare but ATLEAST unlike in beta there is a TON of diffrent skins to choose from. Lag has continued to be nonexistent for me even with the new netcode, but i know thats not the same experience for everyone.
My only issue is that they NEED to Improve hit boxes, and increase the dodge distance since the perk was removed.
Characters kits wouldnt even be half as broken if the dodging mechanic was simply just fine tuned. You will litterally dodge attacks but still get clipped amyway due to the dodge not moving you barley anywhere and your hit box getting tagged. Also maybe consider adopting smash bros shield system
Ultimately the biggest mistake was changing the game's engine. The UE4 build just needed to be iterated upon not rebuilt from the ground up.. They're literally trying to catch up AGAIN after 1yr.
Yeah, they really shot themselves in the foot with that change. I didn't think it was a huge deal, but looking into it some more, it literally was a rebuild of the game. Taking that into account and seeing how we are still missing features or have noticed how things have been taken away now makes more sense.
my glorious king lebron james cant save this
Good thing I played during beta. I got all characters except 2 and I have enough currency to get at least 4 characters when they come out.
I just want to look back at this Ang say, damn, that didn't last long
Thanks for the review
Yo I'm rocking with the Chameleon Twist 2 music
I find it infinitely hilarious that a company named Player First Games couldn't care any less about what the players want.
Good thing pro gamers ALWAYS know what’s best. We see what that did to halo 5 at launch with its multiplayer.
I was lucky enough to get into the alpha and I just dont get it. They had a chance to fix the game and they drop the ball twice. We let them cook and the food somehow came out raw.
yeah the first time i played after the rerelease i legit thought my computer was broken, nope just multiversus is
Crazy seeing the payout
So many things were going well dam
Player First Games are comprised of ex-Riot Games and Blizzard employees. They’re no strangers to how online multiplayer games work. They’re pros. Coupled with how small their team is, and WB’s abysmal management, MultiVersus is in a rough spot with these circumstances
They're not pros. This game proves that. They're so terrible at their jobs that even Riot didn't want them around. Sloppy seconds ahh dev team.
I swear they wasted an entire year just upgrading the graphics into a new engine. Further proof that video games are not made by gamers anymore since they focused on Graphics while making everything else about the game worst than the beta.
Hopefully with the big patch coming in a few days most these issues willl be fixed. Netcode has improved a lot from launch and input delay is getting a setting added.
The really fascinating thing is how so many features snd options removed drom beta to full release? Unreal 5 removes that much? Hard to believe.
I think the biggest problem right now are the hitboxes. They make casual play feel horrendous and unfair
It's really disappointing how many bugs the game launched with but PFG has been patching at a good rate. It's probably too early to say that it doesn't have a chance, this game has so much appeal that if they eventually get it right people will come back. I'd say the state of the game in a couple months should give us an idea on if WB/PFG have what it takes to fix it and keep it going.
There’s also many people who didn’t receive all beta content they earned, and customer support is basically doing nothing about it.
You excited for Rivals 2?
It's looking to be pretty cool, but I wouldn't say I'm excited for it. I'll try it and will see if I end up really enjoying it.
I got into the closed beta from Twitch Drops, and good god did this game fall off.
I used to play this game daily for months back in its open beta, but I refuse to play this game regularly, if not, at all. I couldn't even play a proper online match with my friend Kyle without the server having a heart attack. And even as someone who has the entire roster unlocked, the insanely slow unlock rates on top of the terrible monetization frustrates me so much, where people like the previously mentioned Kyle can't get any of the stuff they want without grinding 35+ hours in a game that they don't like.
What happened? Like, seriously, what actually happened behind the scenes?!
Sad to see
i was super excited for mvs to be back to just for it to take out the most crucial things that made it fun. it just feels so much more clunky and not as fluid and fast as the beta andd my hitboxes still feel weird so sad that it’s struggling.
Honestly to me I feel like the game still needs a bit of work they def fixed a lot of the problems that are said in this video ( iron giant having infinites, the net code/lagging out of games) and they seem to be listening to the community this is something that’s going to take time and I’m loving this game so far and if they keep us updated on what they r trying to do I’m sure this will be a great game just not a big one but something like brawlhalla I’m down to see what characters come out overtime.
Could be possible they’ll finally get it right down the line but.. is anyone going to care by then? Probably not.
Yeah I feel like this second time around was their best chance of pulling everyone in and proving they were the actual Smash contender. It really sucks that the game turned out this way
7:41 this is the problem with every game relased today
honestly, a big and easy competitive fix would be to stop charging your air charge attacks when you hit the ground, like smash. its so stupid imo
3:55 I SPENT THOSE HOURS TO GET JOKER CAUSE I AINT SOENDING MONEY ON A FREE2PLAY game😭😭
I think it can be saved but its on thin ice. Here's what would save it:
1) FIX THE ONLINE CONNECTION.
2) Fix Battle Pass leveling. The gains are abysmal and daily missions that require you to spend real money is atrocious.
3) Pve is tedious and boring. Make it shorter with a higher quality of challenges (like a shorter smash ultimate classic mode)
4) consistently balance characters.
5) refer to step 1
Multiversus was a game i was/am still hyped for but these issues are slowly burning away that excitement to play the game. Which is wild because this game could've matched the level of smash had all the ideas landed.
I just can't get past the power scalling in this game, batman would single handedly beat all of the characters lol.
Man I still have 40 character tickets from the beta.. at this rate I’ll never get to use them.. I spent way too much on the beta because I was really excited about this game and it hasn’t paid dividends
40??? I don't even know if that's how many we came with lol, I believe I have 14-15 left since I purchased everyone with the tickets that came with the ultimate edition. Hopefully you get to use the further down the line when the game feels more polished
@@twistedrivera yeah I bought the $50 middle grade bundle or whatever but then I wanted the golden font name and all that stuff so I bought the $100 version later.. I’ll be trying to spend those tickets for years
I still really think it's stupid that they have a exhaust or dodge meter. Why should I get essentially punished in a sense for whiff punishing/dodging a enemy attack and it take meter?! Mind you most of these characters (Harley, joker, shaggy) thrive with even being in exhaust mode. I just think it's really stupid
Its really sad how this game turnt out, and i was really excited to see Jason get added in multiversus too, the game has so many problems, that it's kinda unplayable.
Kirby air ride music top tier
If enough people speak up about the monetization then things will change
I had 130 hours in the beta and this was the first fighting game I wanted to pursue becoming a pro in, so I was more than a little disappointed in what was being offered on full release. I believe that this comes down to WB interference, because the game was not ready to be released and it's clear having to switch over to Unreal Engine 5 set the devs back in a big way. I feel like i'm playing a worse version of the beta that is now bloated with more features of which I can't even appreciate because of how much else has been taken away, and all the egregious monetization has WB shenanigans written all over it. They should have ran a one month closed beta to get feedback with the new changes, fix what needs to be fixed, and released the game at the end of the year. I love this game, and I want it to succeed, but it feels doomed right now.
Hate to bust people bubble but just alone switching from unreal engine 4 to 5 in under a year in unheard of…. Give the a fucking break they have worked there ass off for us…. Yes there is problems and guess what THEY ARE FIXING IT…
Right. I get that, but if they knew the game as is right now is clearly not ready for release because of the engine switch... then why ruin your reputation and trust of the players with a not even half baked product?
It doesn't matter if they are fixing stuff, they had a whole year to do that and I doubt the playerbase will recover from this, but I hope I'm wrong.
Like I said in the video, it is possibly and more than likely the ones in suits dictating the decision to release in this state because no way did PlayerFirstGames decide this was the right thing to do.
They spent most of that year on the cash shop.
They even removed attack decay so all you see is nonsensical spamming and now it works in their favor every time I am matched up against a shaggy I tell my friends “how much you want to bet that he will start the match with side special….” The funny thing about all this is I’m always right
I lost to a shaggy that literally only did side special 😭
So yeah they removed attack decay yet said over dodging was an issue.
So dumb they removed attack decay yet said over dodging was an issue.
@@Hinokami777 that’s crazy they said that cause over dodging isn’t that much of a problem it helps you maneuver better helps speed up the pace of a the fight and it makes it seem like a dragon ball z fight that’s actually not an issue spamming like an idiot and getting rewarded for it now that’s an issue
having played a TON of the beta and getting to top 25 iron giant, i actually don’t mind the slower paced gameplay with like the 30 frames of input lag. maybe i have stockholm syndrome but you kind of get used to it after a while, and i prefer this system than the beta where everyone was dodge spamming/canceling everything they did so punishes were difficult to come by
besides that, yeah im genuinely confused as to what they were doing with literally everything else. the ui sucks, the new maps are hot dog shit, there’s no ranked from the get go, and they’re drip feeding characters instead of releasing a ton of new ones from the get go.
the hype from this game was because it was a free to play smash game where you could play as arya stark against superman. they should have doubled down on introducing characters for the actual release because otherwise the game doesn’t have much going for it
Love this game but I agree, there's more maintenance needed
I got all characters on Beta. They mine forever now.
Alright since you don’t seem to be aware multiversus completely swapped engines during the hiatus it’s not a defence for all of it but that’s why they removed things
Yeah I knew they switched engines, but I didn't know how badly that affected them after doing more research after I posted this video.
Taking that into consideration though, they should have released at the end of this year or sometime next year to fix current issues, bugs, and netcode.
@@twistedrivera they should have but WB had contracts for sponsorships and collars that are hard to work around
After 3 weeks, I can say 2v2 feels way better than beta. They dropped a patch this past Tuesday that got rid of the Desync issues. My main 2v2 partner and i play every night.
1v1 on the other hand does not feel as exciting as it was in beta sadly, the game is advertised as a 2v2 and should be balanced around that mode
I was beta player. You didn't even list all the problems and was very generous. I don't think they can come back from this sadly. It's not like they can take another year again since last time they came back with less stuff. They would need to really kick the tree to save it. Make the game not free at this point and add what people is asking. then sell the rest of your characters as DLC. If they have the balls to do that they can still save it but I just do not see it happening.
It’s actually insane how bad they did at “developing” this game and anyone who tries to defend it needs to stop sucking the copium. The one major change they made that was positive was adding dodge stamina. Everything else just feels awful like taking kits away from characters (which they have only done more with patches while leaving characters like WW untouched somehow) to leaving in bugs to prioritize shit character balancing. This full release was such a step in the wrong direction and they show that they consistently won’t listen to the players with the updates. IG is still broken strong, whole DC cast + shaggy still dominating the whole roster.
The game is really fun, stop pushing this narrative
Never said it wasn't. Game is extremely fun and has unique mechanics that aren't in other platform fighter, but everything else besides the gameplay is awful and a clear regression from the previous versions of the game.
Hope it gets an update sooner
Fighting games are meant to be small, also I feel like a lot of this is subjective, for example, you wait the month they need to work on netcoding then it'll actually feel better than beta IMO. Combos exist now but mismatches make it so it isn't a guarantee, its a lot of fun IMO, I haven't placed in evo or anything but I do have 6k wins and will always play
Their best chance to keep a playerbase was at launch with everything feeling fixed and complete.
Fixes can come, but will people come back? I’m hoping the game does well, but it feels like they destroyed a lot of player’s trust with their launch.
I heard that apparently instead of fixing the net code, they slowed down the game and zoomed in the camera so even ignoring the monetization and modes, the gameplay is arguably a different game.
In this case, can multiversus 1 be community hosted ? Perhaps.
I waited for rerelease to play it but am not interested anymore.
Love and blessings!
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This game deserves it's downfall honestly. How the hell does the game get worse when it was supposed to be improved? 🤦🏾♂️ There was absolutely NO reason to slow the gameplay, scale the characters, and zoom the camera! 👈🏾 Those 3 things are why I quit the game and will NEVER return. 🤷🏾♂️
The slowed down gameplay is starting to grow on me a little after putting in almost 30 extra hours, but the state of release and such drastic changes to those coming back to the game are definite turn offs.
@@twistedrivera Yeaaa I could never get used to that slow bs. It's a fighting game. The best fg's are fast paced in my opinion. 👍🏾
I loved the beta, my only problem was the netcode causing others to practically teleport. It took a while to keep up with experienced players but I caught on easily.
Now they basically slowed the characters down to help with the netcode and it made me hate almost everything about the game.
I was a fool to buy the founders pack in the beta version after they released this mess. If some of you like the way this plays well then I'm not stopping you and I hope you enjoy it tbh but for me? I'm good, uninstalled and moved on with my day.
No shot it comes back. It had hype behind it and disappointed and now has people calling its monetization predatory. When things like this happen people don’t come back, they don’t want to be let down again, the become bitter at the game. Overwatch 2 had much larger backing and while it took some time (due to the consistent lies and smoke and mirrors) the game is not doing well. It’s essentially on life support and players and streamers alike are looking for their exit strategy. Multiversus got a chance most games don’t get and used it to prey on the community. This game will fade into obscurity. It’s wasted potential and it’s sad.
With how unique and fun the game feels if you take everything else out, it really does suck. I’m sure PlayerFirstGames wanted to make something good, but WB more than likely ruined that
@@twistedrivera it’s a shame because this game was set to become the next smash bros, but they made alot of bad decisions and it’s gonna haunt them
Can someone recommend me some fighting games to try out? I have loved this game until now I do not. This game is cooked but I still have an itch to plug something similar
As far as platform fighters go, this was the best one imo.
Your best bet would probably be to wait for Rivals of Aether 2 and see if you like that one or hope this game gets a lot of fixes done in the future
Brawlhalla is the best platform fighter rn. My condolences for missing out on the golden smash era. Gotta wait for a new smash game to come out
On a pure gameplay perspective I actually enjoy the game more than the beta but the problem is litterly everything else
The time it will reach the beta level most of the players would have left by then, unfortunately. They made a mistake not sure whether they were forced to upgrade the engine or not, but after that a lot of changes were made and a lot of things were removed. Its bit too much focused to make it pay to progress in xp gain and in rifts. Apart from that input delay is too much and connection errors are still there, along with that there are stuttering issues after latest update. They are trying but i dont know why WB is testing communities' patience for no reason, as they want to grab cash as fast as they can. Already knew I wouldn't be able to complete the battlepass because of the doubled xp gain needed to complete. I won't get also get most of the characters as quickly as i can. They have doubled the time and also doubled the price to get them.