How to get SQUARE DEADZONE in RL (and why) | Freestyle Masterclass
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- Опубліковано 8 лип 2024
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Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
0:50 Why switch to square deadzone?
Joystick self-check plugin: bakkesplugins.com/plugins/vie...
8:53 Built-in square deadzone
9:43 What if you cannot get square deadzone?
11:01 Steam configuration square deadzone
11:14 Steam configuration (Epic games) (link in description)
Try this one: • How to Play Epic Games...
If that doesn't work: • How to Launch Epic Gam...
There's plenty of tutorials out there
11:35 Steam configuration (Steam game)
14:33 Ds4 Windows square deadzone
16:32 Durazno^2 square deadzone - Ігри
*IF YOU CANT FIND THE LEGACY BINDINGS*
Btw for Epic to Steam users, the LEGACY layout wont appear. Its an RL thing
Just use whatever is default. If that doesn't work, just use a community layout and tweak that.
thanks for this i was fr tripping
ur very helpful
(epic) hmm every time I try to use a community layout I get an error: RaiseJSException:Metohd call fialed: Input.GetConfigForAppAndController call had invalid argument (arg 0): double_value: nan
I don't know what Legacy bindings are or to what section you're referring, but I was able to fix the issue with jumping when I press LT (left trigger) and boosting when I press RT (right trigger), or tabbing out, or other unexpected keyboard inputs you might be experiencing.
Go to Steam Settings > Controller > Scroll down to "Non-Game Controller Layouts" and select Desktop Layout > Edit > Edit Layout
Once you're here you can change most of the controller inputs on keyboard to "none". For some reason you can't do that for the right bumber, so I changed that one to left shift because that's what the kbm equivalent is when I looked at my controller bindings within Rocket League itself.
Hope this helps!
@@robborino85222❤❤❤❤❤ bro I was crying thank you
you're a legend maktuf
This is the square deadzone tutorial that everyone needed all along. Thank you for the in-depth explanations💯
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Awesome video! Appreciate you going in depth with why people use it and how it actually works.
Would also like a video about every setting in the steam configuration section to fully understand what they all do!
just discovert your channel and the first video i see already helps me a lot. thx maktuf
Man your tutorials are changing my life for good xD ty so much Mak!!
Good Video, I loved it, Great Freestyler Maktuf
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The route to this (in steam) is different now. There are settings in steam settings->controller under "external gamepad settings." You may have to tick some of those boxes for your controller (I'm not sure. It had my ps5 controller automatically enabled. If you can't find controller layout....
Right click rocket league in library->Properties->Controller->Override for Rocket League-> Change to enable steam input. Then try.
Yes
Thank you very much 🙌
@@Maktuf I personally hated the square hitbox. I’m a competitive player, that enjoys mechanics. But it was fun experimenting with it.
@@fvlse_ its only for learning flip canceling, nothing else.
And of course with so many hours in cross/circle its hard to make a switch.
The day you want to learn flip canceling try it out again 😄
@@Maktuf I can cancel, stall, etc with the circle deadzone. Simply takes more consistent effort in training
@@Maktufdo you still use it during regular play?
A video showing what every setting does is a great idea! 100% going to watch that.
Very good video from you, as per usual. Thank you
A guy by the name of MizuRL has a video like that. He explains it very well.
@@Positivleegaming I just looked at MizuRL's videos and I don't see any that go into depth on the steam config settings, only the in-game RL settings
Good Tutorial I have learned a lot with the video, I will apply it in my training
This tutorial helped me so much. Thank you Maktuf. You're the GOAT!
This was a super informational video, thank you 🙏
great job maktuf!
Thank you so much Mak❤
I avoided square deadzone for so long because I thought it didn't matter much, but it really does feel so much better
This helped improve a lot of my mechs and get them more consistent I was struggling to do jakze resets but not any more 🤝🏻
Thank you master maktuf XD, for teaching me more mechanics as for freestyle, 1000/10
Crazy how I was looking how and bec I’m getting really good at fs lately and u cam out with this vid makes me think I’m destined to get far in fs
Note: 12:14 if 'Controller Layout' is not there, go down to properties > controller > for override for rocket league, select 'Enable Steam Input'.
Now Controller Layout will appear under Manage :) you're welcome!
Ty so so much
Ty bro!
life saver
Thanks for this video. I'd love a more detailed guide in regards to the steam setting!
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Square deadzone is great. Can't play without it. One thing to note though is that using steam controller input sadly adds a lot of input delay. Maybe not a huge deal for freestylers but it's definitely a disadvantage in competitive. I kept buying controllers that weren't thrustmaster after my eswap x broke, but I inevitably caved on an eswap s because the input delay with square deadzone was killing me.
@@scaryharry2483 ye Ive heard a lot about that and it was definetly an issue for me before. Now I dont notice it. Maybe once I play more comp I'll notice as u say. But Steam did make a big controller config update and that couldve solved the issue Im not sure
@@Maktuf Oh I didn't hear about that, definitely could've fixed it. I might give it a try again soon
@Maktuf what's ur cont settings?
As soon as i switched i felt the difference in the good way. Now it feels like more the car is doing the exact same movement that im doing on my controller. Im really thankfull for this video.God bless you.
You're really recommend to improve?
Thank you so much Maktuf for this video😭'can't wait for the in-depth video with all the explanations, I think it'ld be very interesting and helpfull...
Btw keep up the amazing work ! I love watching your clips and learning from you, you're my inspiration ! 🤩
Have a good day and maybe we'll meet through a coatching soon
This is deadass so helpful, I’m still confused on how it fully works but I can just feel a difference I feel way more consistent in all type of shots
After finding my right deadzone and sens hit my first double tap in game on accident just air rolling after a hit I made
Let's go another fs masterclass
Yesterday I got a Wooting 60He and it was on circle deadzone first.. i wondered why i could do a perfect halfflip anymore... Then after setting it to square deadzone it suddenly worked again xD
This video explains why 👍👍 thx
thanks mak and chese
I don't freestyle but it feels more intuitive to me. But something about my speedflips feels off. I'd love a video about the settings if it can help merge what i love about both deadzones !
Thanks you so much for this video! Really great, it helped myself! I have seen some pro aving circle Deadzone(Joyo and Daniel). What is the avantage of this one?
Liftoff and Tryp....I see you're a true man of culture. Howdy my FPV/Rocket league brotha!
would you recommend square deadzone for ranked? I'm not a freestyler so I'm curious
Would appreciate a in depth video very much.
thank you goat
I required the video of making the square zone feel like crossdeadzone. I been playing with a while again and it feels ways loose when aerialing.
I tried increasing the controller deadzone but somehow it starts killing the diagonals. The way I test it is on the pre matches for tourny and make the car spin with nose on the ground. Which I couldnt do which cross deadzone.
What are the best keybinds you suggest for ranked with the dedicated air roll?
Im not sure if this will get a reply, im on steam and i configure it all properly, but when i go back into game my xbox controller is just unresponsive? any idea how to fix
Nice video. I have a couple questions
Once you have done the controller configuration for steam, enabled square and exit. Is it best to untick the PlayStation configuration support? Because in game it doesn’t feel the same and also there are Xbox buttons when it is a ps5 pad.
Do you have to use that template or can it be the default legacy one?
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Nice❤
hey maktuf at 16:01 i cant seem to find the hid hide config. is there anything i can do?
When you introduced DS4, this maked me want to Switch on PS4 controller. I discovered this program a bit time ago but i hesitated in using this.
I couldn't see if anyone else had mentioned in the comments but I wanted to ask your opinion on using the steam controller configuration settings over using the native controller inputs RL has. I've tried to go back to steam config after switching it off ages ago and I cant even control a dribble properly because of the muscle memory difference. Obviously using steam you'll be getting input latency, but is that a tradeoff that is worth having a square deadzone for?
So it basically makes it to where you can control or turn any flip cancel left or right? so for example having a square deadzone would be better because on a ceiling double tap you could turn while holding your flip cancel to be able to double tap easier rather than being stuck in the animation for a bit? I wasn't too sure on the exact implication of it. Great Video btw, you're doing gods work here my guy.
Maktuf do you maybe know how much anti deadzone and Max zone pros are using for cross deadzone on ds4windows? Or what would you recoment me for ps5 controller for Competitive
Very good tutorial, now I don't have double inputs with ds4 windows anymore
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Sorry for the stupid question, do I have to square on both joystick ? I can do both on thrustmaster
@maktuf Whenever I use the Ps4 controller configuration support it makes my buttons on the game show up as xbox controller buttons, how do I fix this?
can u do a settings video for the steam controller settings u currently use i really wonna give it a try but im not sure if anything is wrongly set
my ps4 controller is pretty old and sometimes i feel like it isnt precise anymore. Would it be helpful to change to square deadzone?
Maktuf, what specific mechanics would you use square deadzone for? im trying to learn helis, but square deadzone makes it harder for me to stall. I can usually stall all the time, but now im kinda struggling and idk if its worth the switch
yo man, i cant right click on the rocket league in steam bcs im on epic games, even if i have epic on steam
How do I get the officialy layout thing pls answer someone 😢❤
I absolutely love this video. I have a request. On the transitions can you have the volume of the music lower so that it matches your voice better? It's like twice as loud as you and it catches me off guard. I have to keep adjusting my volume. Even if the -db is the same, the music has more range of tones so it powers through and the human ear perceives it as louder.
Also I'm friends with Impulse and FancyDuck, I'm beginning to learn freestyle mechanics after 6 years lol and I'm starting with long air dribble (goal is 10 minutes, they can do it each over 6 hours lol I've been in calls with them doing it it's so dumb haha and I wanna be dumb too :D). I just found your channel and I'm really glad for the information you're providing. It's encouraging me to explore other mechanics as well. Your musty video is top notch and is already helping me get power. I'm looking forward to your previous and future videos :) Thanks for making the game fun again for me - Aquatavius
Yes of course and thank you very much for telling me this. Im new to editing so its nice to hear feedback 😊❤
i get the controller layout option on every game on steam except the (epic games) rl launcher through steam i can load up epic games rocket league through steam i just cant geet the controller layout option, i mean the settings is already enabled or i wouldnt be able to do it on other games
cant find the congiguration support but did all the other thigs does this change anything?
Help me bro
I have the revolution 2 pro controller and it's square deadzone by default
I want to change it back to cross (Epic games) can you help me?
I couldn't see an option of square/cross deadzone in his software
What is the difference between “square stick” and axial dead zone in ds4 windows. You didn’t mention the dead zone type tab in ds4 windows app
Will it be worst if i plan to use it for freestyle and normal playlist aka ranked
What is the square deadzone input? The one you have on your screen. I have bakkesmod but I cant find it
When I do the thing to add the game from epic to steam, there is no Legacy Layout for Rocket League on the templates list :(( any help?
GOAT
What controller come with built in square deadzone looking for more then one option
It seems to not be showing any legacy thing on the steam configuration on a newer series xbox controller? and i tried other peoples lay outs too but the bakkesmod plugin doesnt seem to be showing any signs off square deadzone, can anyone help?
Do i need to launch the game from steam everytime now to have my square deadzone or I can launch from wherever ?
Lo hice por ds4 windows le di check a la opción pero no me sale el cuadrado
Help me please.After durazno v2 one corner or square deadzone is still circle and it doesnt reset back.
my square deadzone on ds4windows is so weird
My controller will randomly disconnect and then reconnect but when it reconnects for some reason I cant flip cancel
Is there any way to do this for a Elite Series 2 Controller? because I am more comfortable with Xbox controllers as they fit my hand better, if there is a way that would be great
Do you know how to fix this? When I play rl with my xbox controller using the steam configuration, my kbm also activates which messes up inputs and even tabs me out of the game. Any help?
everything is messed up for me, when i go to settings in ds4windows i cant see hidhide anywhere.
when i try to add epic games rl to steam and add square deadzone i have double inputs.
always bs like this happens to me
where do i find controllers with a build in square deadzone my PC broke down so I gotta play on the ps5 now
When I went and did this, my original saved settings is not useable whatsoever in game. My ds4 controller is not recognizable in RL. Any ideas on how to fix this here?
does anyone know the fix for everytime i press x on my controller with ds4 it alt tabs me from RL. Only way ive been able to get square deadzone to work tho D:
Can I put my controller to my laptop and get square dead zone then put it back on to the console will that work?
Maktuf I need help cause when I click on controller there’s no general controller settings
Yoo, awesome video i just have a question. I added my epic games rl to the steam library and i have the controller config but it doesnt say legacy. What do i do?
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I don’t see legacy option.
when i changed to square deadzone, my buttons in rocket league show xbox buttons instead of playstation. Got any solution?
Please make a video showing what every setting does
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im facing some issues, how should i get in contact w u
Where can I find the Legacy thing? 12:52
Are there any disadvantages to square dead zone?
it works but it appears as xbox layout is there anything to do with it ? while im having ps4cntrll
@maktuf Is the PS4 controller square in shape? Kind regards Tyra, thank
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how do u use dualsense edge on steam? it doesnt work for me
I wish there was a pros and cons list of cross vs square for in game purposes. For example why most pros use cross but not square if this is a factor - does it make other aspects of gameplay WORSE?
i think in the video he said they dont really need or care about it which can be taken two ways. One is it doesnt matter for competitive gameplay or its a detriment.
they dont really need it because they are already good enough controlling diagonal cancels also without giving up a low deadzone. Since they are not doing freestyle mechanics, diagonal cancels are good enough for resets. they dont need all the other stuff I do to look cool hahah. I can also do what pros do, but they just never stop to think if they need square because they are good enough without.
I love you
Right, sorry that i'm asking 1 yr after the video...but i've just switched to it as an Epic user and my left trigger (drive backwards) doesn't seem to work AT ALL...anyone got a solution?
Holy shit, it's a night and day difference, this is the way rocket league is meant to be played, I hope you do a video explaining the steam controller settings too.
W video. I asked in your chat for you to make this video. Not sure if it's a coincidence or if you saw the chat 😂❤
Ive gotten too many requests hahah
Had to do it 🙌
how come when i do this RL shows Xbox buttons in game instead of PS4
1 thing to note is to get a perfect speed flip. on a square deadzone the window to hit it is much smaller meaning its harder to get an optimal speed flip
Do you know why that is? Because I have very consistent speedflips in both directions
Maybe I got used to that small window, but Idk what that small window is
@@Maktuf the angle to get it
This is odd to see. Are you sure this is true? Because I can actually speed flip easier / more consistent with square deadzone
@@ReflexRL well if you are wanting consistent cancels front and backward, while not having this loose feeling. The deadzone goes way up. It might a little simpler to access the diagonals in theory but it feels like there is a point on the speedflip part that doesnt feel quite right.
I mightself cant do them but when I made change it feel like I needed to this weird adjustment if not the car would flip weird when doing the attempt.
@@roxasdracun8661 Tbh the only reason I tried square deadzone was bc my turning radius felt very slow/sluggish like my car wasn't fully inputting on the sides. After switching, my turns feel a lot better/snappier but now I definitely feel the wobbly feeling in the air. The speed-flip thing was just a coincidence for me
Yo maktuf I can't find the layout what should I do?
How to fix steam opening a second player on one controller ?
what do you do if it doesnt give you the option to get the official layout for rocketleague thing? :(
I have the same problem
I’ve seen on the subreddit that increasing your aerial sensitivity to the 1.4-1.5 mark plus does increase the input border to effectively give you square DZ, is that correct? Or does that have any bearing on what you said about flip cancels?
That is for the feel tho yes. But not for cancels
Idk why RL cancels work like that unfortunately. U need the full input registered in-game, sens dont change that
@@Maktuf That’s interesting, I looked into square DZ a while back but decided against it when most pros are still on cross.
I want to get more into learning multiple and advanced resets but trying to learn Jakzes and your variation has proved quite difficult and I wonder if I won’t be able to do it consistently while I stay with cross. Thing is I don’t want to sacrifice my other control in game or diagonal inputs with speedflips etc.
Thanks for the response though man, will have to give it some thought and try it out!
I have a ps5 controller but when I activate Steam input it tells me that I have an Xbox controller how can I fix it?
as an epic games player, do i need to start rocket league from steam now always?
This vid is so useful but when I was looking for the official psyonix layout I couldn’t find it any idea why?
You can find it in official layouts in the recommended tab. Or just use a community layout with square
@@Maktuf ok ty