I know Botox is not permanent, but did it help you get rid of the habit of teeth grinding? Did you get to a point where you no longer need injections? Did it make your skin loose?
I honestly did not realize how fortunate I was until celebs started getting procedures to get what I naturally have. Thank gosh cause that is just way to much upkeep
Perfect timing! I’ve been doing a lot of research on this treatment as I really grind my teeth and it’s caused my muscles to really grow, changing and broadening the shape of my face. Thank you!
I may be the minority, but I love how a wide face with a strong jaw looks on a woman. Botox is one thing, but I find it such a shame when people cut their jaw down, like K-pop stars. Balance is key, though, in relation to cheekbones, etc.
@Acid King there is something wrong with normalizing the change of features on a big scale. If it makes you much happier and you thought about it for a long long time then sure, but it's deeper than that in society (especially in Korean society where the V shape is sought after, and not necessarily common naturally.)
I agree, actually i think it looks better on women, not a super wide face but a strong jaw, yes. I had the same impression that many looked better before treatment but in severe cases (Bethany Frankle, Minnie Driver and the actual patient in the video) it is definitely a life changer. Some people spend decades of their lives thinking that's their real jawline while it's actually hypertrophy due to stress and such, I've seen many, both men and women.
This is a most informative video rich with illustrations and beautifully done! I learnt a ton and appreciate Emily for providing a master class in human beauty and it’s enhancement!
Really really good content! But I am missing one very important point and it is the importance to understand why somebody has a hyperthrophied masseter, which frequently is a compensation mechanism due to malocclusion of both dental arches, which can be aggravated when u inject BTX into that masseter that is actually a functional unit together with he temporal and pterygoid muscles, which then can cause another problem. Here is so important to point out the Evaluation from a TMJ Specialist that understands about dental occlusion and provides a splint and gives a go for the support with BTX. I really like how well explained your vids are and enjoy them always. XoXo.
You bring up a very good point that I didn’t realize. It would be interesting to know exactly how much malocclusion plays a part in Masseter muscle hypertrophy. I focused my research on ppl who want to get Botox for facial slimming and kinda threw in the fact that it can also help if you have bruxism because many of my patients feel relieved from jaw clenching after having this procedure. Thank you for your valuable feedback and thank you so much for watching the video! Also curious to know how long you feel this treatment lasts?
@@NaturalInjector malocclusion plays a big role in masseter hyperthropy, thats why I first take a look inside the mouth and check how the teeht occlude. If they occlude in a right way and I really touch the masseter from outside and inside then I apply BTX, in very big ones I apply at least 50 -60 U per side in 3 points (20/20/20) or so on, it depends. I Do it then the injection under Ultrasound Guidance so I have a look in all the maseter layers and apply it in all layers I can see avoiding the fibrotendonous layer between the depp and the Sup layer.
@@mauricioceronm.d.351 Very interesting. Just curious, what’s your specialty is? You’re so knowledgeable on the dentistry aspect. That’s very thorough that you utilize US guidance 👍.
@@mauricioceronm.d.351 That’s awesome! The other day my co-worker and I were discussing longevity of masseter Botox for bruxism and she told me she had to get injected around every 3-4 months and I told her that I think she should increase the dosage. I think she got around 20 on each side.
I know "they" say certain face shapes are more appealing than others. However, all my life I have had what some would call a square jawline. It has never affected how I feel about my face as it is in proportion to the rest of my face including the forehead. That aside, I also have suffered with TMJ for quite a while. I became slack in using my night guard but have been using it for quite a while now. I was to the point it was so painful I could hardly open my mouth to speak and chew. I just so happened to become consistent with using my New Face device almost every day, and sometimes massaging my face. I just recently noticed I do not have the TMJ pain. So, keeping up this protocol is a must for me.
Thanks for sharing your story Kathy! If New Face continues to decrease your TMJ pain then great! If not, and you try Botox to your masseters, not for facial slimming but for relief of the TMJ, feel free to keep us posted.
I was so excited to get these injections done for my TMJ and round face until I realized what a weak jawline and side profile I already have due to submental fullness/fat and sagging on my neck. I've seen many people talk about the sagging they experienced after these injections and I can't stomach the possibility I could end up with even more... I'm only 25, petite and slim otherwise, and since I've noticed this I've felt so terrible about how I look.
I have a super weak jawline and side profile and I had this done for medical reasons and girl your health is so much more important than your appearance. Your tight masseter muscle could potentially be holding your lower jaw back anyway so it might help
I did it because I was clenching my teeth at night, but the down side is that I started to jowl and it makes my face look older 😫 I’m no longer doing it anymore.
EMILY!! Loved your Video! What a Great Job educating your audience about the contouring effects of "Botox" for treatment of Masseter Muscle Hypertrophy.
Thank you dearest Greta! ❤️❤️❤️ 🌹. I’m so glad you enjoyed it! Looking forward to seeing you again at the Derm clinic 🤗. Thanks for always taking care of me.
Could you give some tips on how one could tell if the wideness/ bulkiness of the lower face is attributed to buccal fat, jaw bone shape, or masseter hypertrophy? What are some factors to keep in mind when looking for a cosmetic procedure/ specialist?
Great question. It’s difficult to tell without me seeing and being able to actually palpate how strong your masseter muscles are. If I have you palpate your own masseters it wouldn’t mean much if you didn’t know the differences in strength which comes from assessing people which is what your provider can do. Excess buccal fat would give more of a round shaped face and be higher up on the face whereas bulkiness from the actual mandible bone or masseter muscle would be lower down at the angle of the mandible.
I had this a year or so ago, I would get migraines from TMJ. My jawline wasn’t too angular, more round than anything else. With the Botox, my migraines were alleviated and I liked the way it made my jawline look too, however it made my cheek area look so gaunt. Kind of like I’d have my cheek bone, which isn’t large or overly protruding since I’m quite flat faced, then an unattractive dip from just below the cheek bone to the jawline, where it would come back out. Kind of peanut shaped, for lack of a better descriptor. It was very unattractive, I felt I looked quite unwell actually. I’d love to get the Botox there again for my TMJ, and the jawline aspect was a nice bonus, however with the way it made my cheeks look I can’t bring myself to have it done again. I definitely didn’t expect that to happen, I feel much more confident now that it’s worn off
You are not the only person that feels that way which is why I mentioned the post masseter atrophy. Just curios, do you know how many units you were treated with to each masseter? This is a very interesting video which talks about what you can do to correct the gaunt look 👉 ua-cam.com/video/vKFX8tul7CI/v-deo.html
Same! It made my face look sunken and hollow, and I have big cheekbones so my face looked like a peanut. And I looked a lot older. And my jowls sagged. Im not doing it again. good thing I grind a lot and my maseter grew right back.
@@_CL it doesn’t really dissolve since it’s Botox but it “wears off”, it’s worn off now however my jaw hasn’t returned back to normal, the hollow in my cheeks has improved but my jaw bones are still a lot smaller. I’m looking into getting filler to bring my jaw back as my front profile no longer has any definition - if that makes any sense
@@madj7152 ah so lucky! The hollowness in my cheeks improved however my jaw bones haven’t returned back to normal yet and I’m worried they won’t at all! From the front I just don’t have any jaw definition, I hate it! At first I kind of liked the way it looked from the front profile, minus the hollow cheeks, but now I just want to look like myself again.
I’m having this done tomorrow in hospital for my painful jaws, physio didn’t work so hoping this does, to be honest I’m not bothered what this does to my face because the pain outweighs everything ….of course if it changes my face for better then that’s a big bonus. I just prey it stops the pain.
Imma guy, this is my favorite treatment, it does wonder to my face. Even though I don't have tmj or something my muscle jaw develops periodically, been having this for the last 4 years within one year interval for re-injection.
As you get older your buccal pads decrease, so naturally your face gets slimmer and the natural jaw structure can be revealed, which can also be dependent on other factors such as body fat percentage, and usually celebrities have strict routines and lifestyles. Some of the celebs also get buccal fat removal which makes it gaunter.
I had it done twice because I have a strong jaw, my chin is quite square-ish too. Ended up looking gaunt & old 😂 stopped doing it and loving my fuller face and accepted my jaw
@@wash77 Thank you for sharing. It sounds like you had the issue some ppl can have with masseter Botox which is likely from over treatment. Curious to know how far spaced out your treatments were and how much was used. A UA-camr vlogged about this issue that she had where her face got gaunt looking for a long time. That video was very helpful and is the reason why I sometimes compare my patients pics to make sure they still don’t have results because sometimes they don’t realize they do, even if it’s been 4-5 months they can still have results.
@@NaturalInjector Thanks for the respond Dr! I had my first botox in January, and again for a touch up in March, she added the a tiny bit. In May I had the second botox. I have since then stop doing more. I know how I look like now when I had it, I didn't enjoy that look. I will be turning 40 next year and I want to maintain that fullness in my face. Having the botox really aged me. Thank you again for your kind feedback!
I Had this and my face slimmed down so much it scared me. ever since my smile looks very strange and this was two years ago now. my face has sunk each side of my mouth and aged my face
Just got it done today for my teeth grinding problem. I had to do a online presentation after and I notice instantly my face different on zoom, got slimmer and changed. 😮 I instantly hopped on Google and googled: Does Botox make your face look skinnier? Low and behold here I am on your channel watching what just happened to my face today. 10 on each side.
Hi Annee. It usually takes a few days to start seeing results I have never had someone show results the same day. Did you get treated with Botox or another neuromodulator? I have my patients come back 1 month later because that’s when most of the full results would be.
@@NaturalInjector Well I was shocked by the visible difference to my face. I've been grinding my teeth for such a long time (night and day clenching) and I wasn't informed by the injector of the possible changes. I felt something was different within a few hours and I saw a change. Even when I touch each side of my jaw muscles it did not feel as pronounced anymore. Dysport.
@@annee5582 Ahh ok that makes a little more sense as Dysport does typically kick in faster than Botox but usually not immediately after. Perhaps your provider only did a small amount for your teeth grinding vs doing a larger amount for facial slimming. The dosage is less if you are not trying to achieving facial slimming.
Wow I’m so confused now. I thought some of this face slimming was due to Buccal fat removal surgery. Now I don’t know the difference between this treatment and buccal fat removal or if one the two is preferred if you have a specific goal or maybe face shape?
It’s possible that some of the women here have had that too. Both buccal fat removal and masseter Botox can make the face appear less square and chubby. Buccal fat removal would be beneficial if the person had a lot of fat to their lower cheek area. It’s would likely be more beneficial for people who have round, rather than square facial shapes.
This helped me with my teeth clenching and pain there. I have a heart shaped face or maybe diamond? So they only gave me 10 units on each side . I got it done twice and it’s helping me not keep chipping that enamel and/or grind down to the nerve which was leading me to root canals soon…
Was the change to your face/jaw very noticable after? Struggling with same issues and thinking about trying botox, but afraid it will change my face. Kinda happy with my jawline as it is
I hate my face shape. It’s so wide and looks like a square. I want to get this treatment but I am scared and don’t know even if I can afford it. I literally wish I didn’t have this face shape I hate my pictures
I’m sorry you feel that way. There are a lot of beautiful women with square face shapes. I hope you get to try this treatment one day if you think you’re a good candidate. My next video will be all about face shape contouring and highlighting with fillers, Botox, and Sculptra.
Thank you Luna I’m glad you enjoyed the video! I also have a diamond shaped face. Sometimes I wish my masseters were larger and stronger so I could get a little more width to my face lol.
I see at 10:00 you said the results can last 6-9 months, but I know Botox is usually known to last for approx. 4 months. Are results known to last longer in the masseter than other parts of the face?…
@@FearFanatic86 Yes the longevity of neuromodulators vary based on the dosage used and the area of injection. Also, it’s not like you wake up one day and all of your results are back. It’s a gradual return of the muscle function.
is it me or long faced ppl just age faster idk like shorter faced are more youthful imo, such as many east asians naturally just look younger and they usually have shorter faces?
As a guy I definitely see the improvements in the celebs from botox. I think while it is possible to pull off a slightly masculine jawline anything excessive is comparatively unattractive and anyone who tries to convince you to be yourself is not really helping. So glad that these non invasive surgeries exists for everyone :) Great video!
Thank you for your comment Adam. I’m beyond grateful that non-invasive procedures exist!! It’s refreshing to hear your comment because I have gotten not so nice comments about how I made ppl feel like crap about their facial shape, even though I stated in the video that there are many women with square facial shapes that are absolutely gorgeous 👍.
It’s possible that it could cause more bone loss to the ramus area of the mandible because it’s weakening the muscle. However you have to decide for you if the benefits outweigh the risk. For some women with very square jawlines, they may not mind because softening their jawline is going to really enhance their look.
@@NaturalInjector Thanks for your response. I certainly wouldn't mind a smaller jaw but I understood that bone loss in the jaw can lead to tooth loss. Something to think about for older women especially those susceptible to osteoporosis.
@@samanthathompson9812 Yes but we lose bone anyways from aging, especially women so it would be hard to say if the bone loss was from the Botox or just from normal aging. I think tooth loss would be combated more by taking care of your teeth with cleanings, dental work if needed etc. Also not removing teeth unless it’s absolutely necessary (ex: wisdom teeth).
@@samanthathompson9812 Yes but we also lose bone due to aging, especially women. So it would be hard to say whether it was from the Botox or just from normal aging. With regards to the jawline I think the best thing one can do is have good dental health ex: cleanings, dental work and not removing any teeth unless it’s absolutely necessary.
@@NaturalInjector Agree totally about the importance of periodontal health for health overall. It's too bad many neglect it because of lack of insurance.
I chewed too much gum for 6 months becuz of stress and it's ended up becoming a habit and now I have overdeveloped my masseters but am just 16 yrs old what do I do? Is there no natural way to reverse it
She actually may have had Botox to her masseters. Just curious, have you seen pics of her before her plastic surgery? She looks very different than what she did before.
I had this done for teeth grinding but would never do it again. I had a very square jaw but it didn’t bother me . I regretted getting it done not long afterwards, I experienced so much discomfort and pain for the first month and never expected my jaw to literally hang open the whole time even though I only received a half dose of Botox each side. The muscles atrophied so much it looked like my face “dropped” and made the side cheeks look gaunt(didn’t help that I had cheek filler which made it look a lot worse).
@@NaturalInjector according to the plastic surgeon she normally administers 20 units per side but I only received 10 units per side because she wanted me to retain the natural squareness in my face, needless to say it all fell flat and my face looked weirdly long and jowly. Luckily the Botox has mostly worn off after 6+ months and I’ve got use of my masseters again, although the muscles are still small the fact that they are now pulling tight and “flexing” again has made a difference in the shape of my face and I’m noticing a lot less jowling.
@@Chibi_Sashi Oh wow so she only did 10 units per side and you had this effect. Wow. Glad your muscle function has returned and you notice less jowls. Curious what number you would put yourself on with the masseter hypertrophy scale?
@Chibi_Sashi hi, I know this is an old post but did your face ever go back to original form and your jowls go away? How long did it take from injection?
@@lisaboxell670 Hey, the botox (10 units each side) finally wore off after about a year or so (even though I was told it lasts 6 months) and I've been getting masseter development again within the past few months. It's been about a year and a half since I got the injections. I tend to grind my teeth at night (the reason I got the injections in the first place) so the development has been quite noticeable although they're not 100% back but it's a huge difference from where I was a year ago.
I always had a very square jaw but in recent years from grinding and clenching its gotten ba and painful! I got this done 2 weeks ago! Mine are the strongest masseters shes treated she said lol i got 30 on one side and 35 on the larger asymmetrical side. Have a bit of bulging still when i clench but she assured me it will go down after 3-4 weeks. My tmj pain is also already gone!
I used a night guard before finally getting botox for my grinding and clenching. I've only gotten it once now but I still have pain sometimes so I'm assuming I need more. I got 30 on the left and 35 units on the right. More on the right because the right is a bit stronger.
Hi Doctor. Help! My face has a concave profile and prominent chin (witch chin) especially when smiling pulling fullness away from middle face making the chin appear to stick out. When younger and a bit fuller face, my jaw and face had a more square look, however not as much now but my concave profile plus smile lines folding make the chin much worse. Help what is best to do?
Hi Lucid I am a PA. If you have smile lines it may be best to try filler to the area but it’s really difficult for me to advise without seeing your face.
Slightly less defined, yes. But not necessarily weak. A good candidate is someone who has a very strong defined jawline and the goal is to soften their jawline. But you do bring up a good question when I spoke about overly rapid post treatment masseter hypotrophy at 9:22. So in some cases It can accentuate sagging and less definition.
when they smile without the botox, it seems like they are smiling but after botox, they dont look happy but flawless. Q: what if you have chubby cheeks and you do this masseter Botox procedure (for aesthetics or bruxism)? would that sag your cheeks (skin/fat) as well?
If too slender and too pointy yes. Just like if too wide and square it can masculinize a face. All depends on to what degree. Thanks for your feedback 👍
@@Empresselizabeth1800 I’m not sure as I don’t know if we have any long term studies on if masseter Botox causes bone loss because it’s not FDA approved yet to treat this area but one thing I know that greatly causes bone loss to the jaw is losing 🦷 teeth.
As we age we lose bone. It could be related to aging. In women, the bone loss is likely more pronounced after menopause. Also if teeth are removed it can be more pronounced.
I cannot really tell you if I feel i will work for you without seeing your face. If it’s really your cheeks and you don’t have a square or sometimes round facial shape and you don’t have a wide jawline then you may not be a good candidate.
I believe in the diversity of beauty also. Treating your masseters will not take away from someone’s uniqueness. Treatment not only enhances someone’s beauty but it can also really relieve some of the pain that happens from grinding. A win win
This was the question I was searching for. I already have an oval face between 2 and 3 on the scale but I have TMJ and my jaw hurts so much. I have been considering to get this kinda bottox for the pain but also my pain comes from the jaw bone rather than the muscle? I'll talk about it if I ever see a professional.
I really want this done for the look of a slimmer face but I also clench on one side in particular my left and sometimes I wake up with a locked jaw and I have to wait for it to become unlocked but I don''t know if I am a good candidate still. Do you know if this will help with asymmetry as my right side looks very different to my left. :)
Great question. I have a few patients that have asymmetry and a stronger masseter on one side. You can try treating the side that has stronger muscles to se if you can make it look more symmetrical as well as alleviate symptoms.
Hi Emily! Thank you for this great info! I have ETD and my doctors recommend trying Botox in the Masseter. My surgeon wants to inject 50units in total in one session (25 per side, also into the temporals). I don't have a too prominent jawline, but it is indeed incredibly tense (which is probably the cause of my ETD). Would you recommend doing rather several sessions or do you think 25 per side is fine?
I had a consultation with professional about this procedure & she said my masseter muscles are too weak/small. I don’t have TMJ, I just want to slim my cheeks/jawline. Would this procedure still work for me?
Thanks for watching but I cannot possibly tell you if this procedure could benefit you without seeing your face. Where did you feel you fell within the masseter hypertrophy scale?
Omg i’m so happy to find this video, i thought my jaw alot of fat, so i decided to sliming injection tratment, but dont work, i bet cause my sleep grind 😢
No this should not affect your cheekbones at all. The effect of narrowing the jawline is seen more from a frontal angle and if anything as the jaw narrows your cheeks may be come slightly more apparent.
So I already have a naturally defined jaw but one side is more prominent than the other.I feel as though it is quite uneven would it better to get botox only on one side and would the botox harden onto the jaw bone?
@@emerldjewlsxox5705 Botox is not a filler so it will not make the tissue hard or soft, all it does is relax muscle. You cannot feel the Botox in the skin because it’s not a filler. This procedure does weaken the masseter muscle so after having this procedure and asking the person to bite down, their masseter muscle should not feel as strong after. (You can feel when you ask the person to bite down and you palpate their muscles- This is what I do to gage how much Botox I should treat them with).
I wanted to get this done but then occured a question: If I botox the masseter muscle will I be more likely to have jowls as I get older due to the muscle atrophy?
thank you so much for this informative video!! i’m currently 18, i do not have TMJ but my large face shape is something that i’m extremely insecure about. i want to get this treatment once i’m 21, or maybe over. have you had any patients fall within the 18-23 ish age range? what age would you say is too young?
Hi Vicky, glad you found the video helpful! I did treat someone who was under 20 years old before but she had TMJ. I’m not sure where you live but treatment for facial slimming can be done at 18 years old here in the US. (Anything younger than that would require parental consent). Did you find the masseter hypertrophy scale helpful? If so where do you fall?
Hey Vicky - I got this treatment at 20 and noticed a significant difference and have now gone back to get it again at 22. It’s great but sometimes the cost can be an issue as if you have a very strong jawline you may need a lot of units and to top up regularly to keep the muscle weak. As someone who is young and doesn’t have a full time job this has been the biggest issue for me. I also have pretty bad sleeping TMJ so the treatment got rid of that but also gave me a slimmer face shape.
If the person with an oblong face shape grinds their teeth but other than that no I don’t think they would be a good candidate for this for facial slimming.
I also have facial asymmetry..one side is bigger than another which makes me feel insecure all time..I have also lose my weight which makes my face slimmer to a limit..but still it's asymmetry my whole body is lean but face has fat now I don't want to loose more weight I just want to make my face slimmer does TMJ slimming effect will last permanent or its temporary??? Plz sister rpy me🙏🙏🙏
i had masseter botox ( i went in thinking i needed jaw filler but was advised i already have such a wide circular face and that jaw filler would make it worse ) i had it in september and was advised it can take few months to see a difference but i see absolutely no difference :( did i just not get enough?
Hi Emily! I was wondering if dysport or xeomen would work better than botox for the jaw muscles because it is known to have more spread? I have definitely seen more of an effect with these than with botox. What do you think? Thank you!
You can use Dysport in this area. Although no neurotoxin is FDA approved yet for treating masseters, it’s off label (Botox is doing the clinical trials to get actual FDA approval) but there’s no reason why you couldn’t use it in this area. I believe Dysport is stronger or has more of a paralyzing effect than Botox. I don’t think it necessarily spreads more. Here’s a video I did - Botox vs. Dysport 👉 ua-cam.com/video/y1YcCiA0GXY/v-deo.html
How old do you have to be to get botox? Or rather, what's the earliest, but safest, age to start? What are the long-term effects if you start too early?
If doing Botox for medical reasons then I don’t think there is an specific age that you have to be. For cosmetic reasons like wrinkles, it’s different for each an every person. Some people may begin to have wrinkles at 25 whereas others don’t until 45. There are no long term effects if started at what you consider “early.” The effects from Botox are temporary so they will go away. I wish I could give you the safest age to start but it all depends on the reason you are doing Botox. Are you asking in terms of getting it for facial slimming or for pain associated with grinding?
@@NaturalInjector I have TMJ and am currently using night guards. I’ve grinded them up a good amount so I’ve been thinking about bringing this up to my specialist! I’m currently 21
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this was a game changer for me. Better sleep, no more pain in the morning from clenching all night and a much prettier face.
🙌 That’s awesome I’m glad it helped with your clenching and enhanced your facial shape. Thanks for sharing your story
I know Botox is not permanent, but did it help you get rid of the habit of teeth grinding? Did you get to a point where you no longer need injections? Did it make your skin loose?
How long did it last?
@@CamilaSaurus 3-4 months
@@sonjalalelu3667 Thank you!
Hyoyeon Jung has a very balanced face. Her feminine features balances her masculine feature
Yes she is beautiful
I honestly did not realize how fortunate I was until celebs started getting procedures to get what I naturally have. Thank gosh cause that is just way to much upkeep
Thanks for sharing your story. Curious what facial shape you have?
Now you just need to have as much money as they do 😂
@@malloryknox6802 😆
Perfect timing! I’ve been doing a lot of research on this treatment as I really grind my teeth and it’s caused my muscles to really grow, changing and broadening the shape of my face.
Thank you!
So glad you found it helpful Deardra. I’m guessing you will consider getting this treatment?
I may be the minority, but I love how a wide face with a strong jaw looks on a woman. Botox is one thing, but I find it such a shame when people cut their jaw down, like K-pop stars. Balance is key, though, in relation to cheekbones, etc.
Very true balance of the jawline and cheekbones is very important.
@Acid King I don’t think that was their intention
@Acid King there is something wrong with normalizing the change of features on a big scale. If it makes you much happier and you thought about it for a long long time then sure, but it's deeper than that in society (especially in Korean society where the V shape is sought after, and not necessarily common naturally.)
Olivia Kulpo looked more attractive with square face shape
I agree, actually i think it looks better on women, not a super wide face but a strong jaw, yes. I had the same impression that many looked better before treatment but in severe cases (Bethany Frankle, Minnie Driver and the actual patient in the video) it is definitely a life changer. Some people spend decades of their lives thinking that's their real jawline while it's actually hypertrophy due to stress and such, I've seen many, both men and women.
This is a most informative video rich with illustrations and beautifully done! I learnt a ton and appreciate Emily for providing a master class in human beauty and it’s enhancement!
Thank you Dr. Whitaker. Thanks for your feedback. I’m so glad you enjoyed!
This is the video I've been searching for
🙌 glad you found it!! 🤗
I didn’t feel any pain and it was like 20 seconds, love the results ❤️
That’s awesome! Thanks for sharing 🤗
Wow this is amazing! As a hairdresser this blows my mind; since so much of what we do has to do with one’s face shape.
Totally off topic but I love how you accurately pronounce everyone's name 🥰
Thanks Ena it’s important for me to correctly pronounce names 😊
Really really good content! But I am missing one very important point and it is the importance to understand why somebody has a hyperthrophied masseter, which frequently is a compensation mechanism due to malocclusion of both dental arches, which can be aggravated when u inject BTX into that masseter that is actually a functional unit together with he temporal and pterygoid muscles, which then can cause another problem. Here is so important to point out the Evaluation from a TMJ Specialist that understands about dental occlusion and provides a splint and gives a go for the support with BTX. I really like how well explained your vids are and enjoy them always. XoXo.
You bring up a very good point that I didn’t realize. It would be interesting to know exactly how much malocclusion plays a part in Masseter muscle hypertrophy. I focused my research on ppl who want to get Botox for facial slimming and kinda threw in the fact that it can also help if you have bruxism because many of my patients feel relieved from jaw clenching after having this procedure. Thank you for your valuable feedback and thank you so much for watching the video!
Also curious to know how long you feel this treatment lasts?
@@NaturalInjector malocclusion plays a big role in masseter hyperthropy, thats why I first take a look inside the mouth and check how the teeht occlude. If they occlude in a right way and I really touch the masseter from outside and inside then I apply BTX, in very big ones I apply at least 50 -60 U per side in 3 points (20/20/20) or so on, it depends. I Do it then the injection under Ultrasound Guidance so I have a look in all the maseter layers and apply it in all layers I can see avoiding the fibrotendonous layer between the depp and the Sup layer.
And it can last long...from 6 Months Till 10 months.
@@mauricioceronm.d.351 Very interesting. Just curious, what’s your specialty is? You’re so knowledgeable on the dentistry aspect. That’s very thorough that you utilize US guidance 👍.
@@mauricioceronm.d.351 That’s awesome! The other day my co-worker and I were discussing longevity of masseter Botox for bruxism and she told me she had to get injected around every 3-4 months and I told her that I think she should increase the dosage. I think she got around 20 on each side.
I know "they" say certain face shapes are more appealing than others. However, all my life I have had what some would call a square jawline. It has never affected how I feel about my face as it is in proportion to the rest of my face including the forehead. That aside, I also have suffered with TMJ for quite a while. I became slack in using my night guard but have been using it for quite a while now. I was to the point it was so painful I could hardly open my mouth to speak and chew. I just so happened to become consistent with using my New Face device almost every day, and sometimes massaging my face. I just recently noticed I
do not have the TMJ pain. So, keeping up this protocol is a must for me.
Thanks for sharing your story Kathy! If New Face continues to decrease your TMJ pain then great! If not, and you try Botox to your masseters, not for facial slimming but for relief of the TMJ, feel free to keep us posted.
I heavily grind my teeth at night and i can’t seem to find the right mouth guard. This was a helpful video, thank you!
I was so excited to get these injections done for my TMJ and round face until I realized what a weak jawline and side profile I already have due to submental fullness/fat and sagging on my neck. I've seen many people talk about the sagging they experienced after these injections and I can't stomach the possibility I could end up with even more... I'm only 25, petite and slim otherwise, and since I've noticed this I've felt so terrible about how I look.
Check this video out it can help ua-cam.com/video/vKFX8tul7CI/v-deo.html
Microcurrent could be really helpful, Christine Byers does lots of videos on jowls x
Please reply, I'm in the same situation and I'm in a very bad situation. Has your face improved or regained its former shape?
@@tallisinwonderland4724all she does is sell stuff
And she’s had a face lift!
I have a super weak jawline and side profile and I had this done for medical reasons and girl your health is so much more important than your appearance. Your tight masseter muscle could potentially be holding your lower jaw back anyway so it might help
I did it because I was clenching my teeth at night, but the down side is that I started to jowl and it makes my face look older 😫 I’m no longer doing it anymore.
This video was amazingly ho
Helpful and I feel more motivated to start slow with this treatment to prevent Jowling. Thank you!!
So glad you thought it was helpful! Please feel free to share with others
EMILY!! Loved your Video! What a Great Job educating your audience about the contouring effects of "Botox" for treatment of Masseter Muscle Hypertrophy.
Thank you dearest Greta! ❤️❤️❤️ 🌹. I’m so glad you enjoyed it! Looking forward to seeing you again at the Derm clinic 🤗. Thanks for always taking care of me.
Your videos and explanations are EXCEPTIONAL!
Thank you dearest Demi! 🥰
This was a very well presented video, thank you.
@@MattWillsGreatGuy Thank you for your comment and glad you enjoyed it.
Could you give some tips on how one could tell if the wideness/ bulkiness of the lower face is attributed to buccal fat, jaw bone shape, or masseter hypertrophy?
What are some factors to keep in mind when looking for a cosmetic procedure/ specialist?
Sometimes people who get masseter botox look older, sometimes they look younger. Is there a way to tell/prevent this?
Great question. It’s difficult to tell without me seeing and being able to actually palpate how strong your masseter muscles are. If I have you palpate your own masseters it wouldn’t mean much if you didn’t know the differences in strength which comes from assessing people which is what your provider can do. Excess buccal fat would give more of a round shaped face and be higher up on the face whereas bulkiness from the actual mandible bone or masseter muscle would be lower down at the angle of the mandible.
@@canisayily All depends on the person and how much facial slimming was done. I would be careful in older people who have jowls
I had this a year or so ago, I would get migraines from TMJ. My jawline wasn’t too angular, more round than anything else. With the Botox, my migraines were alleviated and I liked the way it made my jawline look too, however it made my cheek area look so gaunt. Kind of like I’d have my cheek bone, which isn’t large or overly protruding since I’m quite flat faced, then an unattractive dip from just below the cheek bone to the jawline, where it would come back out. Kind of peanut shaped, for lack of a better descriptor. It was very unattractive, I felt I looked quite unwell actually. I’d love to get the Botox there again for my TMJ, and the jawline aspect was a nice bonus, however with the way it made my cheeks look I can’t bring myself to have it done again. I definitely didn’t expect that to happen, I feel much more confident now that it’s worn off
You are not the only person that feels that way which is why I mentioned the post masseter atrophy. Just curios, do you know how many units you were treated with to each masseter?
This is a very interesting video which talks about what you can do to correct the gaunt look 👉 ua-cam.com/video/vKFX8tul7CI/v-deo.html
did it change your face even after it dissolved?
Same! It made my face look sunken and hollow, and I have big cheekbones so my face looked like a peanut. And I looked a lot older. And my jowls sagged. Im not doing it again. good thing I grind a lot and my maseter grew right back.
@@_CL it doesn’t really dissolve since it’s Botox but it “wears off”, it’s worn off now however my jaw hasn’t returned back to normal, the hollow in my cheeks has improved but my jaw bones are still a lot smaller. I’m looking into getting filler to bring my jaw back as my front profile no longer has any definition - if that makes any sense
@@madj7152 ah so lucky! The hollowness in my cheeks improved however my jaw bones haven’t returned back to normal yet and I’m worried they won’t at all! From the front I just don’t have any jaw definition, I hate it! At first I kind of liked the way it looked from the front profile, minus the hollow cheeks, but now I just want to look like myself again.
I’m having this done tomorrow in hospital for my painful jaws, physio didn’t work so hoping this does, to be honest I’m not bothered what this does to my face because the pain outweighs everything ….of course if it changes my face for better then that’s a big bonus. I just prey it stops the pain.
Imma guy, this is my favorite treatment, it does wonder to my face. Even though I don't have tmj or something my muscle jaw develops periodically, been having this for the last 4 years within one year interval for re-injection.
Thank you for sharing your story!
As you get older your buccal pads decrease, so naturally your face gets slimmer and the natural jaw structure can be revealed, which can also be dependent on other factors such as body fat percentage, and usually celebrities have strict routines and lifestyles. Some of the celebs also get buccal fat removal which makes it gaunter.
I had it done twice because I have a strong jaw, my chin is quite square-ish too. Ended up looking gaunt & old 😂 stopped doing it and loving my fuller face and accepted my jaw
@@wash77 Thank you for sharing. It sounds like you had the issue some ppl can have with masseter Botox which is likely from over treatment. Curious to know how far spaced out your treatments were and how much was used. A UA-camr vlogged about this issue that she had where her face got gaunt looking for a long time. That video was very helpful and is the reason why I sometimes compare my patients pics to make sure they still don’t have results because sometimes they don’t realize they do, even if it’s been 4-5 months they can still have results.
@@NaturalInjector Thanks for the respond Dr! I had my first botox in January, and again for a touch up in March, she added the a tiny bit. In May I had the second botox. I have since then stop doing more. I know how I look like now when I had it, I didn't enjoy that look. I will be turning 40 next year and I want to maintain that fullness in my face. Having the botox really aged me. Thank you again for your kind feedback!
You are such an amazing teacher! ♥️🙏🏻
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Glad I clicked on this, very informative!
Glad you clicked on this too! Glad you enjoyed 🤗
Well researched video just what is needed to make an educated decision!!
Thank you sir Wilmoth.
I Had this and my face slimmed down so much it scared me. ever since my smile looks very strange and this was two years ago now. my face has sunk each side of my mouth and aged my face
Amazing 🤩.. I definitely want to try a this treatment next on my appointment. Super informative
Really!I. ’m glad you found the masseter hypertrophy scale helpful ❤️
Love that youthful triangle
Thanks Roger!
Very informative.
🤗 thank you. Please feel free to share with others
Just got it done today for my teeth grinding problem. I had to do a online presentation after and I notice instantly my face different on zoom, got slimmer and changed. 😮 I instantly hopped on Google and googled: Does Botox make your face look skinnier? Low and behold here I am on your channel watching what just happened to my face today. 10 on each side.
Hi Annee. It usually takes a few days to start seeing results I have never had someone show results the same day. Did you get treated with Botox or another neuromodulator? I have my patients come back 1 month later because that’s when most of the full results would be.
@@NaturalInjector Well I was shocked by the visible difference to my face. I've been grinding my teeth for such a long time (night and day clenching) and I wasn't informed by the injector of the possible changes. I felt something was different within a few hours and I saw a change. Even when I touch each side of my jaw muscles it did not feel as pronounced anymore. Dysport.
@@annee5582 Ahh ok that makes a little more sense as Dysport does typically kick in faster than Botox but usually not immediately after. Perhaps your provider only did a small amount for your teeth grinding vs doing a larger amount for facial slimming. The dosage is less if you are not trying to achieving facial slimming.
Wow I’m so confused now. I thought some of this face slimming was due to Buccal fat removal surgery. Now I don’t know the difference between this treatment and buccal fat removal or if one the two is preferred if you have a specific goal or maybe face shape?
It’s possible that some of the women here have had that too. Both buccal fat removal and masseter Botox can make the face appear less square and chubby. Buccal fat removal would be beneficial if the person had a lot of fat to their lower cheek area. It’s would likely be more beneficial for people who have round, rather than square facial shapes.
@@NaturalInjector thank you!
This helped me with my teeth clenching and pain there. I have a heart shaped face or maybe diamond? So they only gave me 10 units on each side . I got it done twice and it’s helping me not keep chipping that enamel and/or grind down to the nerve which was leading me to root canals soon…
Was the change to your face/jaw very noticable after? Struggling with same issues and thinking about trying botox, but afraid it will change my face. Kinda happy with my jawline as it is
Very helpful. Thank you so much!
You’re welcome! Glad it was helpful 👍
Okay purrrr this was rlly helpful
Glad you found it helpful! Feel free to share with a friend
Great for bruxism. However I didn't like how much it changed my face.
Sorry to hear that. Thanks for sharing
I hate my face shape. It’s so wide and looks like a square. I want to get this treatment but I am scared and don’t know even if I can afford it. I literally wish I didn’t have this face shape I hate my pictures
I’m sorry you feel that way. There are a lot of beautiful women with square face shapes. I hope you get to try this treatment one day if you think you’re a good candidate. My next video will be all about face shape contouring and highlighting with fillers, Botox, and Sculptra.
Another lovely video! Personally I’m not interested in this treatment, as I have a diamond shaped face, but it’s amazing to see the before and afters!
Thank you Luna I’m glad you enjoyed the video! I also have a diamond shaped face. Sometimes I wish my masseters were larger and stronger so I could get a little more width to my face lol.
I see at 10:00 you said the results can last 6-9 months, but I know Botox is usually known to last for approx. 4 months. Are results known to last longer in the masseter than other parts of the face?…
@@FearFanatic86 Yes the longevity of neuromodulators vary based on the dosage used and the area of injection. Also, it’s not like you wake up one day and all of your results are back. It’s a gradual return of the muscle function.
@@NaturalInjector Thank you for your response and the video 🙂
@@FearFanatic86 👍😊
is it me or long faced ppl just age faster idk like shorter faced are more youthful imo, such as many east asians naturally just look younger and they usually have shorter faces?
All my TMJ people out there 🙌🏻
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Personally I found the square jaws more attractive than the pointy chins after treatment
As a guy I definitely see the improvements in the celebs from botox. I think while it is possible to pull off a slightly masculine jawline anything excessive is comparatively unattractive and anyone who tries to convince you to be yourself is not really helping. So glad that these non invasive surgeries exists for everyone :) Great video!
Also I preferred 2 and 3 the most so your suggestions are very accurate!
Thank you for your comment Adam. I’m beyond grateful that non-invasive procedures exist!! It’s refreshing to hear your comment because I have gotten not so nice comments about how I made ppl feel like crap about their facial shape, even though I stated in the video that there are many women with square facial shapes that are absolutely gorgeous 👍.
omg this is for me!! hope i can do this soon
Thanks for sharing! Hope you can too
I'd be worried this would cause extra bone loss later in life. I would also assume this won't help squareness caused by jowling/sagging?
It’s possible that it could cause more bone loss to the ramus area of the mandible because it’s weakening the muscle. However you have to decide for you if the benefits outweigh the risk. For some women with very square jawlines, they may not mind because softening their jawline is going to really enhance their look.
@@NaturalInjector Thanks for your response. I certainly wouldn't mind a smaller jaw but I understood that bone loss in the jaw can lead to tooth loss. Something to think about for older women especially those susceptible to osteoporosis.
@@samanthathompson9812 Yes but we lose bone anyways from aging, especially women so it would be hard to say if the bone loss was from the Botox or just from normal aging. I think tooth loss would be combated more by taking care of your teeth with cleanings, dental work if needed etc. Also not removing teeth unless it’s absolutely necessary (ex: wisdom teeth).
@@samanthathompson9812 Yes but we also lose bone due to aging, especially women. So it would be hard to say whether it was from the Botox or just from normal aging. With regards to the jawline I think the best thing one can do is have good dental health ex: cleanings, dental work and not removing any teeth unless it’s absolutely necessary.
@@NaturalInjector Agree totally about the importance of periodontal health for health overall. It's too bad many neglect it because of lack of insurance.
EXCELLENT VIDEO!
So glad you enjoyed it! Feel free to share with a friend.
Well done very informative..
Thanks Terry!
Hi why does the jawline return after a few months from the botox? Is it from bad habits?
I chewed too much gum for 6 months becuz of stress and it's ended up becoming a habit and now I have overdeveloped my masseters but am just 16 yrs old what do I do? Is there no natural way to reverse it
Is it advise-able for a person with overbite? It causes me to clench some of my back teeth and have soreness
I don't know what face i have, just round cause i'm fat
If someone gains weight it can give more roundness to their facial shape. Were you a different facial shape before?
Super informative! Thanks for sharing 💕
I already have a slim face but suffer with bad TMJ, what will the effects be on a slim face?
She talks about this at the 6-minute mark
I am just here to get my approval that I am the perfect candidate 🤣🤣🤣
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Great video
Thanks Bianca!
this is what i need!
The hardest thing to accept is that I’ll be ugly during all my young years. I don’t have money for surgeries
😞 you don’t have to have surgeries to enhance your look
But for example … Eiza González has this and I truly believe that she’s one of the sexiest woman out there
She actually may have had Botox to her masseters. Just curious, have you seen pics of her before her plastic surgery? She looks very different than what she did before.
I had this done for teeth grinding but would never do it again. I had a very square jaw but it didn’t bother me . I regretted getting it done not long afterwards, I experienced so much discomfort and pain for the first month and never expected my jaw to literally hang open the whole time even though I only received a half dose of Botox each side. The muscles atrophied so much it looked like my face “dropped” and made the side cheeks look gaunt(didn’t help that I had cheek filler which made it look a lot worse).
Sorry to hear that. How much did you mean by a half dose?
@@NaturalInjector
according to the plastic surgeon she normally administers 20 units per side but I only received 10 units per side because she wanted me to retain the natural squareness in my face, needless to say it all fell flat and my face looked weirdly long and jowly. Luckily the Botox has mostly worn off after 6+ months and I’ve got use of my masseters again, although the muscles are still small the fact that they are now pulling tight and “flexing” again has made a difference in the shape of my face and I’m noticing a lot less jowling.
@@Chibi_Sashi Oh wow so she only did 10 units per side and you had this effect. Wow. Glad your muscle function has returned and you notice less jowls. Curious what number you would put yourself on with the masseter hypertrophy scale?
@Chibi_Sashi hi, I know this is an old post but did your face ever go back to original form and your jowls go away? How long did it take from injection?
@@lisaboxell670 Hey, the botox (10 units each side) finally wore off after about a year or so (even though I was told it lasts 6 months) and I've been getting masseter development again within the past few months. It's been about a year and a half since I got the injections.
I tend to grind my teeth at night (the reason I got the injections in the first place) so the development has been quite noticeable although they're not 100% back but it's a huge difference from where I was a year ago.
I always had a very square jaw but in recent years from grinding and clenching its gotten ba and painful! I got this done 2 weeks ago! Mine are the strongest masseters shes treated she said lol i got 30 on one side and 35 on the larger asymmetrical side. Have a bit of bulging still when i clench but she assured me it will go down after 3-4 weeks. My tmj pain is also already gone!
That’s awesome! Thanks for sharing your story. A lot of my patients get good relief from pain with this treatment. Glad it’s helped!
I used a night guard before finally getting botox for my grinding and clenching. I've only gotten it once now but I still have pain sometimes so I'm assuming I need more. I got 30 on the left and 35 units on the right. More on the right because the right is a bit stronger.
It’s possible you may need more. How long has it been since your treatment?
@@NaturalInjector a little over a month now
@@popstargurl241 Oh ok. Well it’s possible you may need more. I would follow up with your provider.
where is a good place to go to find out is I am a candidate
as I went wrong last time
More videos just came across your page !!
Hi Nacrin. Do you mean that you discovered more videos on my channel?
No I just discovered your channel and shared it with friends ! I meant to say put more videos !!!!
@@nacrinismael1123 I would be so grateful if you shared my channel with your friends because I’m trying to grow🙏. Thanks so much!
Hi Doctor. Help! My face has a concave profile and prominent chin (witch chin) especially when smiling pulling fullness away from middle face making the chin appear to stick out. When younger and a bit fuller face, my jaw and face had a more square look, however not as much now but my concave profile plus smile lines folding make the chin much worse. Help what is best to do?
Hi Lucid I am a PA. If you have smile lines it may be best to try filler to the area but it’s really difficult for me to advise without seeing your face.
Do you practice? If so where, I love your content and would love to find out more about Botox and fillers.
Thanks Jessica. Yes I practice in Los Angeles CA. Glad you love the content!
How long does it last though
Maybe around 5-6 months or so
@TheWanderer328 no Botox is not permanent. It can take 5-6 months, more or less time to wear off.
If you get this does it make the jaw less defined from the side profile? Like would it make you look like you have a weak jaw
Slightly less defined, yes. But not necessarily weak. A good candidate is someone who has a very strong defined jawline and the goal is to soften their jawline. But you do bring up a good question when I spoke about overly rapid post treatment masseter hypotrophy at 9:22. So in some cases It can accentuate sagging and less definition.
That’s all I see when looking at people’s after pics. A less defined jaw line is a no from me!
I had this done but saw no difference. Does it take few sessions to see a difference
when they smile without the botox, it seems like they are smiling but after botox, they dont look happy but flawless.
Q: what if you have chubby cheeks and you do this masseter Botox procedure (for aesthetics or bruxism)? would that sag your cheeks (skin/fat) as well?
I want to know too
Here I am trying to relax my jaws so I can sleep. I grind all day & night 😩 I might just consider this to alleviate the pain
You should def give this a shot! It has helped a lot of my patients
very informative, thank you!!!
Thank you for watching Hannah!
Why not sure try to save up for lower jaw reduction?
Could I do it to treat my facial asymmetri ؟
the right side of my face is wider and chubbier than my left, can this treatment fix that?
I have done Botox on one side to help with asymmetry. Yes it is possible.
Is there any other side effects of the Botox for example headaches or fever ??? Or any other side effect after Botox ?
It’s very rare but some people who get Botox to the forehead area can get headaches the first few days, but again that’s very rare. Fever no.
@@NaturalInjector Thank you so much for reply . I’m also planning to do soon in few days around 30 units 😊
@@monicasharma5187 Hope it turns out great! You can keep me posted on here 😊
@@NaturalInjector sure 😇
My brain thinks a slender lower face looks bad… the chin looks too pointy
If too slender and too pointy yes. Just like if too wide and square it can masculinize a face. All depends on to what degree. Thanks for your feedback 👍
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If you have signs of some possible bone loss in the jaw would this still be a good option? Or would it make it things worse?
It depends on why you feel the treatment would be beneficial. Would someone be doing it for grinding or facial slimming?
@@NaturalInjector facial slimming
@@Empresselizabeth1800 I’m not sure as I don’t know if we have any long term studies on if masseter Botox causes bone loss because it’s not FDA approved yet to treat this area but one thing I know that greatly causes bone loss to the jaw is losing 🦷 teeth.
How did you get bone loss
My jaw has been shrinking with age and I don't know why. Exercise? Invisalign?
As we age we lose bone. It could be related to aging. In women, the bone loss is likely more pronounced after menopause. Also if teeth are removed it can be more pronounced.
I am not sure if i have chubby cheeks or masster muscle problem. Would botox slim my chubby cheeks?
I cannot really tell you if I feel i will work for you without seeing your face. If it’s really your cheeks and you don’t have a square or sometimes round facial shape and you don’t have a wide jawline then you may not be a good candidate.
i believe we are to love ourselves thats the beauty of being different not cookie cutter
I believe in the diversity of beauty also. Treating your masseters will not take away from someone’s uniqueness. Treatment not only enhances someone’s beauty but it can also really relieve some of the pain that happens from grinding. A win win
🔮✨I am definitely getting it❤.
Let us know how it goes!
This was the question I was searching for. I already have an oval face between 2 and 3 on the scale but I have TMJ and my jaw hurts so much. I have been considering to get this kinda bottox for the pain but also my pain comes from the jaw bone rather than the muscle? I'll talk about it if I ever see a professional.
I really want this done for the look of a slimmer face but I also clench on one side in particular my left and sometimes I wake up with a locked jaw and I have to wait for it to become unlocked but I don''t know if I am a good candidate still. Do you know if this will help with asymmetry as my right side looks very different to my left. :)
Great question. I have a few patients that have asymmetry and a stronger masseter on one side. You can try treating the side that has stronger muscles to se if you can make it look more symmetrical as well as alleviate symptoms.
Hi Emily! Thank you for this great info! I have ETD and my doctors recommend trying Botox in the Masseter. My surgeon wants to inject 50units in total in one session (25 per side, also into the temporals). I don't have a too prominent jawline, but it is indeed incredibly tense (which is probably the cause of my ETD). Would you recommend doing rather several sessions or do you think 25 per side is fine?
@@thaliasmuse9484 Glad you found the information helpful. I cant really advise without seeing you so I would follow the advice of your provider.
I had a consultation with professional about this procedure & she said my masseter muscles are too weak/small. I don’t have TMJ, I just want to slim my cheeks/jawline. Would this procedure still work for me?
Thanks for watching but I cannot possibly tell you if this procedure could benefit you without seeing your face. Where did you feel you fell within the masseter hypertrophy scale?
Omg i’m so happy to find this video, i thought my jaw alot of fat, so i decided to sliming injection tratment, but dont work, i bet cause my sleep grind 😢
Hi Vivi. Glad you found the video helpful! Which slimming injection treatment did you get? Kybella?
So informative!
Glad you found it helpful!
I do also get cheek and chin filler to get a good contour look. Feminine! Will this flatten my cheeks/ cheekbones?
No this should not affect your cheekbones at all. The effect of narrowing the jawline is seen more from a frontal angle and if anything as the jaw narrows your cheeks may be come slightly more apparent.
@@NaturalInjector thank you sooo much 💜 I’m excited
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So I already have a naturally defined jaw but one side is more prominent than the other.I feel as though it is quite uneven would it better to get botox only on one side and would the botox harden onto the jaw bone?
You can try Botox to the more prominent side of your jaw. I’m not sure what you mean by harden the jaw bone as Botox relaxes muscles.
@@NaturalInjector what I mean by harden as in like does Botox go hard or is it soft and you can feel it
@@emerldjewlsxox5705 Botox is not a filler so it will not make the tissue hard or soft, all it does is relax muscle. You cannot feel the Botox in the skin because it’s not a filler. This procedure does weaken the masseter muscle so after having this procedure and asking the person to bite down, their masseter muscle should not feel as strong after. (You can feel when you ask the person to bite down and you palpate their muscles- This is what I do to gage how much Botox I should treat them with).
I wanted to get this done but then occured a question: If I botox the masseter muscle will I be more likely to have jowls as I get older due to the muscle atrophy?
thank you so much for this informative video!! i’m currently 18, i do not have TMJ but my large face shape is something that i’m extremely insecure about. i want to get this treatment once i’m 21, or maybe over. have you had any patients fall within the 18-23 ish age range? what age would you say is too young?
Hi Vicky, glad you found the video helpful! I did treat someone who was under 20 years old before but she had TMJ. I’m not sure where you live but treatment for facial slimming can be done at 18 years old here in the US. (Anything younger than that would require parental consent). Did you find the masseter hypertrophy scale helpful? If so where do you fall?
Hey Vicky - I got this treatment at 20 and noticed a significant difference and have now gone back to get it again at 22. It’s great but sometimes the cost can be an issue as if you have a very strong jawline you may need a lot of units and to top up regularly to keep the muscle weak. As someone who is young and doesn’t have a full time job this has been the biggest issue for me. I also have pretty bad sleeping TMJ so the treatment got rid of that but also gave me a slimmer face shape.
would someone with an oblong face shape be a good candidate for this?
If the person with an oblong face shape grinds their teeth but other than that no I don’t think they would be a good candidate for this for facial slimming.
If someone gets this for a non-cosmetic reason to do with grinding and pain, Would it be possible to get insurance to cover it?
Great question. Yes it is possible to get this treatment covered thru insurance if you have pain.
I also have facial asymmetry..one side is bigger than another which makes me feel insecure all time..I have also lose my weight which makes my face slimmer to a limit..but still it's asymmetry my whole body is lean but face has fat now I don't want to loose more weight I just want to make my face slimmer does TMJ slimming effect will last permanent or its temporary??? Plz sister rpy me🙏🙏🙏
It’s not a permanent effect, although it can last a really long time if you have gotten the treatment done a few times and use high dosages
i had masseter botox ( i went in thinking i needed jaw filler but was advised i already have such a wide circular face and that jaw filler would make it worse ) i had it in september and was advised it can take few months to see a difference but i see absolutely no difference :( did i just not get enough?
Hi Emily! I was wondering if dysport or xeomen would work better than botox for the jaw muscles because it is known to have more spread? I have definitely seen more of an effect with these than with botox. What do you think? Thank you!
You can use Dysport in this area. Although no neurotoxin is FDA approved yet for treating masseters, it’s off label (Botox is doing the clinical trials to get actual FDA approval) but there’s no reason why you couldn’t use it in this area. I believe Dysport is stronger or has more of a paralyzing effect than Botox. I don’t think it necessarily spreads more. Here’s a video I did - Botox vs. Dysport 👉 ua-cam.com/video/y1YcCiA0GXY/v-deo.html
Thanks so much for your quick response
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This is a fantastic video. Thank you so much for providing so much information about this!
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How old do you have to be to get botox? Or rather, what's the earliest, but safest, age to start? What are the long-term effects if you start too early?
If doing Botox for medical reasons then I don’t think there is an specific age that you have to be. For cosmetic reasons like wrinkles, it’s different for each an every person. Some people may begin to have wrinkles at 25 whereas others don’t until 45. There are no long term effects if started at what you consider “early.” The effects from Botox are temporary so they will go away. I wish I could give you the safest age to start but it all depends on the reason you are doing Botox. Are you asking in terms of getting it for facial slimming or for pain associated with grinding?
@@NaturalInjector I have TMJ and am currently using night guards. I’ve grinded them up a good amount so I’ve been thinking about bringing this up to my specialist! I’m currently 21
@@katelynkim8242 I would definitely bring it up! I think Botox can help