7 Mistakes to Avoid When Converting a Shed into a House
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Rodents can chew through spray foam and find a way into your house around any pipes or electrical wires. Better way is to partially stuff the holes with steel wool which rodents will not chew and then insulate with spray foam.
Thanks for this tip. I am TERRIFIED of critters.
Alot of stores carry spray foam with rodent repellent in it. Could try that. O.o
good to know!!
Get a meow
@@shahana_style Plant a peppermint Boarder around the house. Rodents hate it and you can harvest it
POV: You're watching this in 2024 as a 19 year old praying you can afford this when you move out.
You got this!!! Just know that it TAKES TIME!!! You are only 19, plan to have this when you are between 25-30.
Take baby steps and you can TOTALLY DO IT!!!!!!
I have some land.I am trying to reinstate feudalism. If you tend to my garden several days a week you can stay in the loggings I'm planning to build rent free.
Yo wtf😂
Pov I'm 24 and going to be homeless and renting to own a shed and begging a family member to let me use their yard is my only current option for housing that's better than a tent
@@rachelp776go be a truck driver. Live in truck. Drive and get paid
Such a gorgeous book - each shed is unique and inspiring, and I love all the tiny details Kotite features to help readers imagine how to create their own She Sheds ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxe9yi0sulKgsp0VJJCIrLWWkvVqcU7LFR . The feature on Dinah's Rustic Retreat is like something from a fairy tale. It's really inspiring to see how creative all these ordinary people are in making beautiful and useful spaces on a modest scale.
As a Tuff Shed contractor who builds these buildings i would say you did a great job pointing out the issues a new owner should be prepared for and what to be thinking ahead about when finishing them out.
I do prefab for tuff shed lol
Can you build a tuff shed on a trailer?
@@kandacepatterson7965 yes
Where are you located and do you allow financing?
@@james32591 myself I'm a contractor out of the Lubbock Texas Warehouse we cover all of West Texas and part of New Mexico yes we do offer financing I would just look up the TuffShed Warehouse closest to you
Coming from a former Water Restoration Manager with two certifications from the IICRC, you should not need dehumidifiers. If you have a/c, whether it be a main unit, window units or split units then that system will dehumidify your home. An air conditioner is literally a dehumidifier. Just make sure (especially with spilt units) all of your rooms are open to the main air space, leave doors open during the day or install passthrough vents into the main area or area where the a/c is. You can check the humidity just in case but you won't even start having any form of mold growth until 55% humidity. Of course you still need the bathroom vents or a window in there. If for some reason you were to need a dehu, one unit would be more than plenty. Vent hoods are just for convenience of not having smoke/steam all in your kitchen, not at all needed to control humidity levels. You may be concerned about humidity in the winter since you are not running your a/c, don't worry. The colder the air the less humidity, we dried some houses in the colder months by just opening a window to the colder air, yes it really was that simple. Utilize your vents to expell normal bathroom moisture and you should be just fine.
Not in the south in an old home. The humidity in our home sits at 65 with just the AC.
Guys and Gals, PLEASE GET A DEHUMIDIFIER!!! As a full time RV camper in about 275 sq ft, it has been critical! It shocks and amazes me how ofter we emptied the 3 gallon reservoir in ours. Mold is dangerous and extremely invasive.
Sa glad this was one of his top 7 issues.
💯!!!!! Absolutely, thank you so much for catching that!
I live in Colorado where it is dry. Do I still need one you think?
@@sourcehealing82 I would get a decent medium size one and test it out. If you fill the tank in a couple days then maybe invest in a larger nicer one. Also get one that gives you an ambient reading of the humidity and then you can set it to your desired humidity.
Even in a dry climate just showering and cooking will raise the humidity in a small space dramatically.
Pro tip, ALWAYS vent the bathroom when showering.
@@minimoe2807 thank you! I will definitely install vents 👍🏻
@@sourcehealing82 Hi, i too live in CO. Western Slope. I am from the northeast/ New England states. It is SOSOSO dry here in CO! I never could have imagined just how dry it can get. This compared to the northeast where its so damp. Mold is a serious issue there. I don't miss it or the hot, humid & cold damp weather!
I don't know for sure, but guessing if you have good ventilation, fans etc in yr bathroom & over stove, you will most likely not need a dehumidifier. As others have said, try a small or mid-sized one & see what kind of water it pulls over what amount of time, if you are concerned. Good luck!
I used to buy old houses and flip them for a profit. ALWAYS hire licensed plumbers and electricians. There's a reason it takes seven years as journeyman to become a professional plumber or electrician.
Absolutely!!!
why did it take 7 years? Husband became a master in 3 years..
I wired my son's house then he hired an electrician to check our work. We only had a couple of issues to fix and they were simple fixes. Then the city inspector took a look and it passed.
That's basically what my family all did building their houses... but they're all carpenters trained in plumbing and electrical. It's not the hardest thing in the world, but "guild" areas of the US like making it seem like it takes forever.
@@danarosesturgeon why 3 years? Mine became a master in 6 months...
I dont even own or have a shed but im still watching this video , because i know it might help me out in the Future.
Awesome!!!!!!
I’m in a sunroom with power... already experiencing this to decide if I want to do this permanently... this video has me second guessing it.
I plan to build my own home (off grid) and I don't want to live in a tent for 2+years while it is being build. shed to house then back to shed after main house is livable.
This will not help you now or in the future.
I never even heard of a shed, or what a shed was, and i'm watching this video...😂😅😂
This list perfectly converts over to Shipping Container homes or cabins.
This list also converts over perfectly to DIY Tiny House builds.
A video like this is like gold in the bank if you listen.
In regards to the Dehumidifiers. Keep in mind that this is basically Distilled Water. So if you have water storage tanks with basic filtration for potable water or plants that require distilled water such as carnivorous or orchids. Save this water. It is also great for cooking, but if your house is super dusty, or you dusted recently, there is likely alittle dust in the water. Run it through a brita filter and it will barely affect your filter, if at all. :)
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I wonder if the condensate is full of aluminum from dripping off the cooling coil?
No way would I cook with moisture from my dehumidifier. Really?
I watched him pour water out of a dehumidifier into the shower, when it was sitting right next to the toilet.
Perfect flush water.
And if that foam insulation is so great for moisture lock, them why 2 humidifiers...
@@dandelionstars good idea
Closed cell is more dense and has a higher R value, and it helps sturdy up anything, especially if you do metal roof and siding... a firend did 2 inches of closed cell then went over with open cell, it helped to make it more cost efficient. Also consider doing spray foam underneath to help keep out critters
we just bought a 16x30 and this information is gold SIR!! blessings from Springtown Texas
Hey we're looking to buy a similar size, mind if i ask what it's called and from where? Still happy with it?
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you! My son is about to make me a shed to home and he thought, Oh heck, we can do this. Well, we’ll be using your experience and the 7 mistakes guide to make my shed to home. I’m so glad I was looking for ideas and found you guys. Happy, happy living to you and your family. Thanks again.
Thank you Mabel!!!!! Wow you just made my day!!!!!
😅 I am a daughter about to do the same thing as your son at my moms. The attic where I currently rent has become infested with squirrels and rent is way too expensive in southern Ontario, Canada. Your son and I are both blessed to have mothers willing and able to let us convert their sheds into homes. How has your and his journey been going?
@Mabel Pearson how's it going my dear? Are you comfy?
We're looking into 3 of these for our adult kids. It's scary but worth it. I hope
My wife and I watch your videos to learn. We are building a tiny home out of a 16x12 shed that was on our property when we bought it. Great information. Thank you!
I used to work for banker insulation in ABQ NM and you are spot on with your theories for spray foam. Absolutely correct with not needing attic blocks before spraying. You only need that with an attic that has overhangs. Open cell in primary living spaces and closed cell under house.
These are GREAT tips, and not just for shed builds. Moisture control, dead wood, quality insulation, and sealing with silicone and or spray foam are great tips for regular home renovation and construction. I prefer Rockwool insulation for moisture, bug, and fire protection to open or closed cell foam, but that’s a personal preference.
Use that dehumidifier water! It's great for watering plants, etc. Repurpose that :)
Hahaha, YES!!!!!!! I usually do.....I just needed the shot and the baby was asleep and I didn’t want to make noise by opening the front door! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
But yes YES!!!!!!! That water is perfect for watering the garden!
@@BetterTogetherLife phew, okay glad to hear :)
Actually some water from the dehumidifier is very acidic and may not be healthy for your plants depending on the coil in the dehumidifier.
@@mattolsson8816 you use that for potatoes.
@@86jpw don't use it for pot plants
One possible suggestion is air exchangers to keep air flow going in from outside and out to the outside, which will lower the moisture problem outside the bathroom. They use them in commercial tiny homes. Open cell insulation breathes, closed does not.
Awesome content mate. I will definitely pass this on to my son who's just bought a really cool shed out in Kentucky and hopes to have it livable by the time he gets married next year. So, thanks for that and cheers.
I love how stressed out you get and bring the camera close 😂🤣😂🤣.... Oh and the Dave Ramsay Knowledge References were on point 👌🏽👌🏽👌🏽
Great video content! Apologies for butting in, I would appreciate your opinion. Have you thought about - *WoodBlueprints. Com* It is an awesome exclusive guide for building better sheds and woodworking without the normal expense. Ive heard some extraordinary things about it and my mate at very last got astronomical success with it.?
I am about to purchase a shed home, my contractor and I built his mother in-law a shed home 15 years ago and it was beautiful, so it's really nice to see these homes being built. I'm also glad this gentleman is helping me through the hardest parts of building our new shed home because it can be hard when your doing it own your own. I'm also thankful for my husband works for Home Depot as well so I just want to thank you all for the information in helping us get it done. So God Bless you all and hopefully soon I will be posting us building our new shed home. Thank you God for our new home🙏🙏🙏🙂
Well done!
Over the years of making budgets at work, I learned to multiply the time estimates by 3 (i.e. 300%) and the cost by 2 (i.e. 200%, instead of 120%). I think it's better to grossly overestimate the costs and the timelines so that you are pleasantly surprised instead of getting caught flat-footed. Just my 2¢.
This is SOOOOOOOOO TRUE!!!! I didn't want to run people off with making that number as high as you could actually make it.
I once had a pastor at our old church always do a 10% fudge line item....but he was working with big professional commercial building contractors. So their numbers were way more accurate. And if you half way know what you're doing, then maybe the 20-25% is good.
But YUP!!!!! It is very VERY easy to spend double what you think it is going to cost.
Thanks Kirsten!!!!!!!!! I always love when you comment! You are SUPER AWESOME AND SMART!!!! You always have the most helpful comments!!! :)
Take care!
-Beau
Kirsten, you are so spot on!! It is better to have extra money left over and be surprised and be able to use that extra money to do more improvements than to be sorry. I'd work an extra year to get the money in the 'overage' fund than to cut it short and live with the regret that I jumped too soon and now have to spend more.
How is multiplying your estimate by 3 different from just “winging it”? Normally you compare different ways of doing any project. If 2 solutions seem to produce the same result then a rational person will choose the one with the lower cost. If you over estimate a project by 300%, it would never be the “lowest cost” so it would never get done. If your point was “don’t spend all your money on a single project”, I would agree. Saying you should triple any reason estimate just means you want no budget so you will probably get exactly what you wish for (spending a lot more than you can afford or find reasonable).
This was an important video. I was in a rush and did not do enough research on foundation. Now im stuck on blocks sitting on uneven dirt and I will have to fix that issue before going further in my construction because the wind feels like it's going to blow me over. I got too caught up on the inside construction and forgot the fundamental basics of building is having a good foundation. Live and learn! Did you guys tie down your shed?
You made some VERY good points and some VERY important ones too.....thank you for sharing that
Yay!!! Thank you for saying that Panzer, I guess I should make a follow up soon!
We had our entire 40' X 64' x 20' tall post frame building spray foamed by professional company in our area. It was money well spent since we built a house that is 25' x 40' (2 story) inside of the building. Our power bill even in the heat of the summer is never more than $30 a month. We use the sun in the winter and close the blinds in the summer and have stained concrete floors on the lower level which helps tremendously with keeping the cooling and heating cost down. Spray foam is hands-down the best insulation.
Couldn’t agree more! Thanks Ted!
@Martha Curtis Our building is 40w x 64l x 20h at the bottom of the truss level and around 26 ft high at the peak. I believe it was around $7,800 total and worth every penny. I live in the midwest my shop never freezes and I don't heat it. I've never had a electric bill over $40 and propane gas costs around $100 a year. The lower floor of the house inside the shop has stained concrete floors throughout which helps maintain a consistent temperature to heat and cool from.
Sounds like a great set up. I'm looking to do something similar. When you say you built a house inside the building, I'm assuming you mean a section of the building is living space. Is that correct? Also, do you have a website or page with pics, etc?
@@seanspanbauer1231 Thanks Sean, correct, 25' x 40' inside the building is a two story house. I am not great at videos or photography, so I don't have much on line relative to the build. The best way to insulate if you are going to put a house inside of a pole building is to use close cell foam for the exterior walls in the unconditioned space, and open cell on the underside of the roof and in the conditioned space. We also used R-13 faced bat insulation on top of the spray foam on the exterior walls around the interior space.
@@tedh7543 I want to see a picture too! :)
thank you! seriously. each one was helpful. the whole ridge vent thing was confusing. we had planned to use spray foam but "someone" insisted we needed ridge vents...so another recommendation is to make sure you're hiring reliable, experienced and knowledgeable contractors, we had such a problem with this...didn't do enough research beforehand. thanks again! and again!
You betcha!!!!!
Good information...BTW, I highly recommend using flashing over windows and doors and using window wrap if possible to prevent leaks
Yes yes YES!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is sooooo true!
Interesting comment about plumbing. Your drains are so important. We built three cabins, and one has problems with overflowing. I got help from my uncle that was a retired contractor. He really helped on plumbing.
Thank you, I am unlikely to build a tiny house where I live but yours looks so much more livable and practical than quite a few I've seen!
Great presentation! My hubby does mold inspections in NYS and was pleasantly surprised to hear your emphasis on moisture control.
Also, the only issue with the closed cell foam under the house is if you have a water event on the first floor and water gets trapped between the foam and wood flooring. That closed cell foam is a bitch to remove.
As a woman who had two homes built and was around daily and assisted husband with an old farmhouse remodel but don't really know beans about "construction lingo" I really understood what you were talking about when you compared it to how a "real" house is built. WOW! You explain things so well so that the beginner can really compare the difference between the two types of buildings. Thanks so much.
Hahaha!!! Well, that is why I started this channel. Because sometimes it’s easier to learn from a beginner than it is from an expert.
***I am NOT an expert!*** 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Thank you very much Darla for our kind words. 😊
I haven't read all comments, so in case no one has responded about the venting in your "moisture control" info... the vents are needed for the crawl space as well (under the floors) purchase vents with the open & close options. Keep open during summer to keep dry by the air flow and closed during winter months so the pipes don't freeze. Also if you have humidifiers just know they hinder your HVAC system, "the reason for ventilation above and below.... 😊Happy Homesteading 🏡
Great adds. Thank you!!
Closed cell spray foam is waterproof and much more efficient. You need less of it to do the same R value. But it is more expensive.
Closed-cell is also a lot harder which provides rigidity that open cell does not, especially in post frame buildings or pole buildings with steel siding.
No way. I used pink foam in my bus. It gave the funk a growing medium Pulled it all and went with silver bubble wrap. Works great but will double it this summer. In my cabin I made a thermo pane wall. One and a half inch foam. With a gap to the out side wall then a gap and silver bbwrap Over studs. Have two gaps in two inch wall works great till below zero. So I’ll add another layer in attic.
@@stev838 pink foam, is that the same thing as closed cell spray foam? I don't think you're talking about the same thing. I'm not an expert in spray foam however I did glean a lot of information from my post frame builder and my spray foam contractor relative to closed-cell vs. open-cell. I was told that it was best to use open -cell on my roof because I would want to know if there's a leak which is true. They told me closed-cell would conceal leaks because it is virtually waterproof.
Ted H I’m no pro. Must have been the closed cell hidden leaks was a point in the revel.
I had trouble with thin pink ridged. Used it on bus. (Windoooh. Rain.). Water went in thought edge it seemed. But the funk got funky. Pulled it and switched to silver bubble wrap. Good results so far. Not as high as r
But spray adhesives a nd scissors. Seals great. Very easy. For my cabin input in one and a half inch foam. With a gap to the out side wall. Then a gap and bubble wrap flush to the studs. It made a thermo pane wall with Great aspiration Good till below zero. Then the roof leaks over come the heat pumps. Haa. I heat it with a small two prong oil heater. And a small fan behind it. Guess I need another layer in attic space
I sprayed foam for a while and my personal opinion is that you did the right thing by the way you sprayed open cell in the ceiling and close cell on your walls. Gives it great structural support and yet the ceiling can still breath. Close cell in the walls and ceiling wouldn’t be great if someone stays inside for long amount of time.special humidifiers would have to be installed,but I have seen it done.Great job!!
I've pretty much turned my house into a shed.
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Great job!
Right
LOL!
Lmfao oh boy.
You inspired me to build my shed. Unfortunately I ordered my lumber from Lowes and got complete junk. They failed to pick it up as well. My dream is mostly ruined but I will try and salvage what I have. I'm going to Home Depot from for future lumber.
Oh no!!! Well did you try and take the lumber back?
Home Depot wood is horrible too. Try a local mom and pop. Ace hardware is a convenient go to for me. The block chain stores are absolutely horrible when it comes to lumber. Especially if you are doing any kind of finish work such as cabinets.
I can agree with the spray foam being very toxic mainly when it's wet and off gassing. I would recommend letting it off gas before you seal it behind walls possibly up to 2 weeks to a month of letting fresh air in all the doors and windows open to off gas it. I would even put fans all over the place to move the air inside also.
This video ended up in my recommendations and I loved it! I am a fellow dave ramsey follower, trying to save up to build my own house. Got a long way to go, but I'm learning all I can in the meantime. Thank you for sharing your journey.
My husband’s grandmother was raised in 4 chicken coops pushed together and a roof between. The family farm burned down and construction was restricted during the war. Chicken coops were available
Great info. I need to know this before buying shed. The part about moisture & spray foam insulation was especially important- well rather it's something I wasn't much aware of why it's needed. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you for your video. I have been looking at it and trying to do it here in California country, not the city, and the cost is too much. A guy down the street built a barn and it cost him 30K in permit fees before he got started to build. He wanted to build a little in-law house but the fee were 100K. Very sad as state & local government just get in the way even if you want to do things the right way. I understand why people move out of Calif.
That's nuts!
@@bobbybaucom4489 I agree as I am working to get out of Calif where people are normal and I miss my favorete sourthen foods so some place between Tx & Florida to live. Take care dude.
Excellent video, Beau. When we were building the house out at Medina Lake we started to figure in a 33% Fubar Factor. That's half again as much as what you are talking about with your 20 to 25% but we found that depending on what Gary was building it came up sometimes to that 33%. Some items did not cost as much and we were pleasantly surprised but as you have found out on your own that when you get in over your head you have to go back and redo a situation. It took many years for my dearly beloved, late, hard-headed husband to learn to call in for help if he needed it. He was routinely in over his head. Good idea to call in the contractors when you need to. At some later date you can probably go in and put in proper piers for your pier and beam foundation, but you're going to need to get some jacks to keep the house level, and it's going to be some hot, hot work digging under that house to pour the concrete pillars. People from the northern part of the country probably are not familiar with that type of foundation because they all have cellars. The good thing about that type of foundation is that if you happen to have a busted pipe it's much easier to go under and repair the plumbing. Good luck with the rest of your build, and hope that you and Kelly will have a blessed weekend.
P.S. I wish we had had spray foam available for the Medina Lake House. We built it during the years of 1983 to 1986 so that product was not available until much later. We had to use the Owens Corning fiberglass cotton candy pink foam insulation going from an R6 to an R 23 years or so is what I think we put in the ceiling up in the attic. We did put that same kind of insulation under the house since we had a pier and beam foundation after the first winter we lived in it because that was the year that San Antonio got 12 to 18 in of snow and our part of the Hill Country. 18 to 24 inches of snow.
When we put on a room addition in 1998 to 2000 they were starting to get the spray foam to go in around the cracks around windows, but they still did not have the large quantities that you can use in the walls. all they had was that paper stuff that you could blow in and it would never fill in between the studs. 8
Oh Mary this is sooooo amazing!!!!!! I love love LOVE hearing your stories!!!!
Please keep ‘em coming!!!!!!!!! 😁😁😁
And YES!!!! I know that I am still low on that number of 20-25%.....but I just want to stress this SOOOOOO MUCH!!!
You have to have a line item for unseen expenses. It will always take longer and be way more expensive!
@@BetterTogetherLife I sure will Kelly ! As long as you guys keep filming I'll keep putting in my two cents worth. Plus, I really need to go back and re-read what I have dictated into my phone before hitting the send. This Samsung Galaxy 7 just does not like my Texas accent one bit and I am constantly correcting spelling errors!
@@BetterTogetherLife Amen to that!
So many good points, all in one video that I'm saving this. Add in flashing around windows, doors and vents and you have a near perfect structure. Sealed up tight with moisture control and strong R value is how Norwegian plus houses are build, they costs a bit more, but since they hardly need energy to heat them.... Seal the building and as he said waiter and critters will find a way it there is a way.
This video takes the same points and applies them to an idea that good for any structure you are planing to live in.
So listen and learn people, this is pure knowlegde gold.
Beautiful job, guy!!! You did a great job pointing out the many things that are involved in converting a shed into a home. There's a lot of aspects to it that are critical to establishing a safe and comfortable living space. Thanks so much for taking the time to address the important issues one needs to aware of.
Absolutely! Thanks for your amazing comment Fon.
As a project manager, the budget aspect is the best piece of advice.
I wil save these suggestions for my guest shed dwelling👍! Thanks
It looks nice, thank you for taking us through the conversion and anchor and finish process. So to anybody looking to do this, say you're going to buy an 18 x 50 shed for conversion, you'll need the land whatever $ that is, let's say 50 grand, then the shed say $25,000 - 40,000 - then you need to double that price up to around a 100,000 grand to finish the total package, plumbing, elec, flooring, appliances, windows, doors, extras, A/C etc, all of it.
While humidity isn’t as much of an issue here in New Mexico, proper ventilation is still important. We have big issues with dry rot, which can be just as destructive. That and it May 18th, and it is already 92 degrees today, and sunny. Air conditioner for a shed conversion is gonna be a must. Thanks for the advice. I am in the planning phase. I have the floor plan figured out, for the most part, but I want a sun porch attached to it like my first home. That space was my favorite room in the house, and I used it for all kinds of different things. It had windows with screens which keep bugs, moisture, and temperatures out, but they could be opened creating a cross breeze. We used no other space more than that space.
Thanks for making this video! Setting up a shed/cabin on some family property soon, and have been pondering details of the build. The suggestion about attic space and moisture issues is a big help.
Great vid, but I would have appreciated some examples of the “Dead Wood” topic and what you did before and after.
Same here, it was very confusing, and with him highlighting the importance of it, but I have no idea what dead wood is after his explanation.
generally blocking is placed in corners where two surfaces meet and a stud or joist do not land there. Its for the drywall to nail to.
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I loved your take on the critters in the country 😀 if you never live in the country you have no idea how many bugs & mice exist, and you are right if your building is not sealed up tight, they will find their way in in droves.
Thank you very much!! 😁👍🏻
Excellent! I found this to be very helpful. I am just in the planning stages I cant afford to make any mistakes that I would have to repair down the road. I have been told by a few people the spray Insulation is just a waste of money, I thought it would be a perfect savings in the long run. I want a perfectly sealed home. I was also told there was no need for ventilation since my shed to home is only 20' x 20'.
I can’t recommend spray enough!! It is 100% worth every single penny!!!
Ventilation, I would consult with an expert. But what I have been told is if you have to vent....unless you are using spray foam.
The window spray foam stays soft and pliable. I used it in my 1977 GMC motor home. In that application I needed the flexibility due to the road vibrations and expansion coefficients of the aluminum panels and glass. Compared to a steel sided shed, it's nearly the same. But in the shed I used foam panels guided into place with the window spray foam. A closed cell under flooring mat(1-8 thick) was used to seal off any air leaks and give the wooden members room to breath. Later plywood used to cover walls and ceilings...
Oh you was so helpful I'm doing a 10×16 for my son to live in and I was looking at spray foam
Awesome thank you!
This is great! I’m planning on building a shed/barn for my home! fingers crossed I can be mortgage and debt free in my 40s!
Hey! Spray foam sales rep here. The main difference in open and closed cell spray foam is basically cost and acoustical insulation. Closed cell checks the box and outperforms open cell in every single category except for acoustical insulation and cost. You also want to make sure you get a TRUE 2lb closed cell spray foam that is backed with a lifetime warranty. There are a lot of companies out there that do not have their foam certified in the US and it is not properly regulated, and they can get away with limited warranties and not applying the foam properly. I can't tell you how many nightmare scenarios I handle where the foam is peeling off of people's attic roof decks and wreaks of fish due to it being off ratio. The only reason why spray foam isn't more popular is due to its crazy price, which, as you said in the video, is still worth it's money and it does pay for itself in energy savings in the long run, many times over. It also never needs to be replaced or bothered again once it's installed. Before fiberglass, buildings were insulated with all sorts of materials; newspapers, straw, etc. Fiberglass outperforms those forms, but I can promise you, it's not by much.
Yup!!!!
Our main house is open cell and it’s crazy that we can hear anything outside compared to our studio with is CLOSED CELL. Which sucks that I didn’t know that prior. Haha.
I would have preferred to have the acoustics be better in the recording studio. Oh well.
The ingredients in spray foam typically include isocyanate and polyol, with a smattering of blowing agent and additives like toxic flame retardants. The polyol, which is mixed with isocyanate to form polyurethane is, in general, a relatively harmless alcohol compound and is primarily added for greenwashing PR reasons as it can be made with soy and other natural oils.
Isocyanate often comes from methylene diphenyl diisocyanate (MDI), and the manufacturing of MDI includes such ingredients as benzene, chlorine compounds and formaldehyde. This combination of chemicals emits a disturbing concoction of dioxins and furans, carcinogens, bio-accumulative toxicants, and endocrine disruptors.
That MDI is one of the chemical ingredients that are mixed on the jobsite which, together, react to create the final spray foam product. Read between the lines here - a freshly trained spray foam installer is suddenly assuming the role of a chemical engineer and spraying stuff in the place you will soon live.
That should give anyone cause for concern, as MDI is a known allergen and sensitizing toxicant. Don't just take our word for it, here's what the EPA has to say about the human health implications:
“Diisocyanates are well known dermal and inhalation sensitizers in the workplace and have been documented to cause asthma, lung damage and, in severe cases, fatal reactions."
The catalyst for the reaction/curing is often an amine compound or lead naphthenate.
Lead naphthenate may also have effects on the central nervous system and kidneys and it is advised that pregnant women avoid exposure. The National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH), a division of the CDC, states: “It is strongly advised that this substance does not enter the environment."
More info here: www.ecohome.net/guides/3650/is-spray-foam-insulation-good-or-toxic-dangerous-in-homes/
Scary, thanks for sharring. What's the better insulation option then?
@@rosarod6592 Natural products like wool insulation. To make it less appealing for rodents to nest in the wall, you can add a thin sheet of galvanized metal screwed into the drywall and then add your wool insulation on top.
I saw a video fire using fiberglass, wool, board and spray foam insulation. The board was an inferno. The spray was the second to burn very quickly. The paper on the fiberglass burnt but not the fiberglass and he could not get the wool to burn and that was right next to the board insulation. I am old school. Going to to it the rolled way with a vent at each end.
@@ces5843 rolled away???
@@tammybarnes6311 sorry, I did voice instead of typed. I am going to do wool or fiberglass insulation with a vent at each end. But a friend is trying to convince me to do a small window that can be closed during a bad storm and help me controll the loft temperature better.
I think you've done a great job with this list.I've been wanting to do the house from shed thing for a while.And I'm more determined now than ever. My husband and I have the property,now,just need the home.Thank you
Very well laid out. Just an FYI on foundations. Some places require full foundations. With yours, the concrete blocks are great. Just should have done it differently. I'd suggest forming out a concrete footer, for strength and soil movement, then put packed 1/4 minus gravel inside of it. And make sure that you have good drainage around it. Great advice on electric & plumbing! On your # 2 "increase", add the words over-run, or extra for unexpected budget expenses.
Love the idea of Spray Foam for my TinyWrap around Porch Cabin!
If you run a wood-burning stove in the winter or whenever it's cold it will not only be almost free energy it will keep your house dry as well.
Great point
Yes, good advice. Especially when lots of people are doing tiny houses off grid.
So awesome Max, THANKS!!!!!
Regarding "ridge vent" or other roof venting: one of the reasons that roofs are vented is so that the shingles will last longer. Unvented composition shingles will last half as long as a properly vented roof. (experience: property storm adjuster for 21 years - I've seen a lot of roofs;) If the shingle can't be properly vented, it may be smart to consider a different roofing material like metal.
Great channel!
Any tips for shed to house in NW Montana?
Lots of insulation. It gets COLD in Montana!
This is real good advice. Most folks can do a little some only with help other are okay. But, most do not have the knowledge or experience to take on a full home build. My husband has been doing every thing since he can remember. I started taking on project early also, with his construction background and a a lot of aptitude we can do most things. We have done a completed a full Reno of a 1903 rented for years and then empty for several. We did the plumbing, electrical, dry wall, new windows, moved walls, put in tile, added an addition put in a new kitchen and more. We build a barn, fences, electric and water to both. But even we had limits, had the siding and insulation done by pros. Also, called the pros for the roof even tho they were minor it is really steep and slate. And again when the 30 + feet tall that was next to the house began to show signs of decay we also called the pros. This info is great advice. Know your limits ask friends you know that have the knowledge for advice and or help. But, know your limits, but don't be afraid to try some things on your own after you have done the research. When in doubt look it up be sure to do it right the first time. Good luck to all the newbies. Budget more then the 20% and double you time. If you think it will be a 6 months it will be 1 year or more to finish.
My Dad used spray foam insulation for my Grandma’s shed house & it is the best insulated home ever. Her utility bill is amazing. I am planning to start my home process in the near future & I will definitely be using the same insulation.
Awesome!!!!! Congratulations!!!!!
The Dave Ramsey comments tell me that you went into this with the right mindset. Thanks for this!
Thank you so much!! In fact you should check out our updated video about Shed to House Mistakes……we’ve learned SO MUCH in the last 5 years!
7 MORE Mistakes to Avoid When Converting a Shed into a House 😩
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Thank you so much for this very informative video. Budget wise I am considering getting a shed n covert it in a living quarter. Your video will help me a lot in my ambitious project. Many thanks.
YAY!!!!!! So glad it was helpful for you!
Thank you. For really getting into just what’s involved. Wow, it’s crazy but thank you.
New subscriber here. I plan on doing what you're doing in the near future. I'm a retired single guy so I don't need a lot of amenities. Thanks for the good tips.
Awesome!! Thank you very much! You can do it!!!!!
I'm a bachelor who doesn't want to pay outrageous rent prices for a shitty apartment that's going to make me miserable.
I am 73 years old. I sold my 3/2/2 in dallas texas. I need something about 900 sq ft not over a 1000sqft. I have looked at tiny homes, mobile homes, manufactored homes, cob homes, earthship homes, spanish cement homes that keep your home cool in the summer and warm in the winter. Shed homes seem to be more economically sound. I love container gardening, herbs, spices, seasonings. Can you give some tips for a 73 old woman by herself?
New fan of Dave Ramsey before subbing to you I liked how you included his way of thinking in the video
Loved the video...... after 30 years in the industry, it's refreshing to see a homeowner who has obviously, desperately, and personally experienced every word he's saying...lol
Your are great person to give your honest opinion... HEY, EVERYBODY!!! listen to this guy!!!
the most impressive venting I saw, was by a bug guy, it put a second roof on, and used the 1.5" gap, to vent. So, the attic was sealed, and the venting happened thru the 1.5" space, which was sealed with hardware cloth, along the eves, and up to a ridge vent.
I have the same 33 quart dehumidifier. I’ve had it three years and never turn it off. I set mine to 60. It comes on at 60 and I dump it almost daily. I totally agree on dehumidifier.
Awesome Summer!! Quick question, how do you clean yours? Ours has recently gotten a funky smell. 🤣🤣
Great video, man. I've been watching these conversions for a while and people make it look so easy. Thanks for pointing out the hidden problems.
Thank you so much Bill!!!!
Thanks for all the tips! Im looking at doing a conversion with a 16x40 cabin once we purchase this farm we are looking at right now. Its a quick an inexpensive method, especially if you can do the work yourself. I agree with what you said about subbing out the electrical. While i think plumbing is pretty easy to do, I would say if you are a person who has NO experience with plumbing, sub that out too. Also, for a lot of counties, your building permit will require inspections for each step and those are two key inspections you need to pass to move forward with getting your permanent power supply. Dont play around with those things and mess them up, is my recommendation.
I agree with you 💯!
We just built a house and was thinking about spray foam but most pest companies would not recommend it because they found that the termites find their way in and they usually can’t detect the damage until it is too late. Usually they eat up top instead of the bottom.
Oh wow, I never heard that. Very interesting. Maybe we should just take a preimptive strike on termites just to make sure. haha.
I have seen some on our rabbit hutch after leaving it out here for 10 months.
The pest people are partly right but most of not all spray foam is a pest deterrent. Ants and termites don’t like it especially the close cell. You can also have all of your timber sprayed with a coating specifically for termites while it’s in the rough frame stage. Then do the spray insulation. I hope this helps.
Oh this is great info! Thanks Joshua!!
I think the value in the expense and extra aggravation is where you live! If you live some where that it gets -40 in the winter, it's worth it! It rarely gets into the 20s here. We have plenty of freezing nights and cold days, but most winter days are 40-70 degrees average between October and March.
Pray Plan Prepare - My dad built their retirement home. He bought bulk chemicals from a pest control company & heavily sprayed, if not soaked, all the base plates in the house before sheet rocking. They never had problems with any pests or bugs. Their house was at a brand new lake so there were lots of critters & bugs around.
As 203k consultant, I see many people wanted to convert their shed into tiny home. You did awestanding job❣❣❣❣❣ I see the same problems including some major issues that they have forgotten about, like can you get a permit!!!! Some areas requires a permit, after all it requires a completely different set of code to live in the building. If this is in a residential area, walkway and parking space may be required by the building department. Have fun with your "Tiny Home"
thanks for all the tips, I think for me, I should not try to convert a shed into a tiny home...you've saved me a lot of money, time, and tears :)
Lol!!! Well I guess that’s a good thing, huh?
Fortunately for me I insulated mine basically for free. I sealed all seams. I work for a styrofoam company. We make tons of foam designed specifically for new home builds. Our walls, floors and ceilings have a minimum R-30 value. The camp is on concrete pillars and secured permanently to them. There is a cement pad below we use as a crawlspace for tons of dry storage. We skirted around the base with mobile home skirting and lined it also with foundation grade styrofoam. We only use the 12x24 shed as a camp but we use it year round which is awesome! We hear it with a small wood burner and cool it easily with a small window unit we mounted in a wall. We do have a dehumidifier that is powered year round. It drains outside and will only kick on if needed. It doesn't kick on much. All good points in this video. We built ours in 2014. It sits in the middle of the woods. Been there since new. Fortunately, for us, we have never had any problems. Wife and I plan to live there full time when I retire.
Thank you for these tips and insights. These are things I had not thought of. Now I am more prepared for when I am ready.
Awesome thank you for such a great comment Roberta! So glad it helps.
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i can personally say on the foam factor . That if you want to be cost-efficient you can do 1in of close cell for moisture Barrier and better building structure . and Over the close cell you can do a R-11 fiberglass.
This was my first video of yours that I have seen and I found it to be extremely educational and me and my wife are wanting to put houses like this on our property with where our house is to have a couple guest homes and what you have stated here was extremely beneficial to me and I appreciate it and I’m following you now and I subscribe to your channel so that I can see future videos! Thank you sir I truly appreciate your words of wisdom! 👏👍🏻
Just ran into your channel and I feel that I am not the only one in a money crunch who needs a home !! I'm new like I said and subscribed/liked and will certainly have tons of stupid questions. Thanks !!
Glad to have you here, Gary!
Thanks the more I hear the more I learn.
Yay!!!! So glad it helps. :)
You are SPOT ON!!! You Nailed this one!!! YT put you in front of my feed and I am so grateful. Now Im broke and have had 2 low life family units move in and destroy what I did wrong in the first place OMG.
Love the breakdown of the what's and whys. Thanks for creating such a useful video.
Thank you VERY much Jennifer!! That is so kind of you to say. It is awesome to know that we are able to helping people wanting to take the shed to house plunge!!
Closed cell blocks moisture from coming up through the floor which also helps make the house more comfortable because you don't have that cold, damp feeling at the floor level in the winter. Closed cell also keeps the floor joists dry when they are sealed in and being dry discourages carpenter ants and termites. Poison is not as effective with Carpenter ants because they don't consume the wood like termites, instead they just chew and discard the wood to make catacombs. But they won't bother if the wood has less than 65% moisture content. It also helps to cover the ground of the crawlspace with a thick polyethylene/plastic vapor barrier. I totally agree with you about the importance of moisture control in a smaller heated space such as tiny homes and RV's. Winter months is when you do need dehumidification. In warmer weather our air conditioners act as dehumidifiers. But then again, if you notice your window air conditioner has frequent ice buildup, your house is leaking allowing excessive outside moisture infiltration through the gaps in your building. Your advise to take care to seal the building is spot on.
In regards to the differences of spray foam and moisture...check out Matt Risinger's channel. He is a professional contractor and has several detailed videos on the subject. Open cell foam absorbs water and retains it for a long period of time if there is no airflow. If you spray foam straight to the underside of your roof and have a roof leak...it could be months and months before you ever realize it.
Open cell is low density and cheap but not water proof so holds water.
Closed cell is high density more expensive but water proof.
Great video thanks 👍👍👍
Yup, if I had it to do again I’d go with closed cell everywhere. 😕
12:55 on the ridge vents point:
The purpose for ridge vents is to keep an attic the same temperature as the outside so your roof remains cold in the winter time to prevent the inside heat from heating the roof and thawing the snow that is laying on your roof in certain areas and the water from the thawing snow freezing to your roof and causing "ice dams". If you live in an area that normally gets snow, you want your roof to be the same temperature as the outside air. If you insulated your roof, with any type of insulation to create a conditioned air space and no attic, then you should have used Styrofoam baffles (very cheap from lowes) stapled to the underside of your roof in between the rafters. This gives the underside of your roof the airflow it needs to remain cold and not thaw the snow during winter and causing ice dams on your roof. Your roof will need replaced in 5 to 10 years if you didn't use the baffles. If you live in the southern part of the US that doesn't have snow or ice to worry about, then you probably don't have to worry about this problem (I live in a snow/ice area).
Southern states still get extreme heat so this is good to know.
You've convinced me. Not doing this. My options were metal building with small apt on one side, workshop on the other, a shed to house conversion or a full build of cottage: all while saving up to build big house with cash. But I'm on the Gulf Coast of Mississippi. Humidity and mold would kill me! Thanks for this video, it was a life saver!
Glad it helped. A metal building might be awesome where you are. Look into others do that. And see what kind of dehumidifier/ac they’re running to keep that back.
Open cell foam blocks wind and slows temperature migration. Closed cell foam blocks sound. (footsteps)
The closed cell is the really thin one, right? If we already did traditional bat insulation in the walls and are only having problems with condensation on the gambrel roof/ceiling, will the closed cell insulation provide enough R value to reduce electricity costs and relieve the condensation problem? We would have to cover the rafters with some type of ceiling material, preferably tongue and grove pine or ship lap.
Most important thing not discussed...sewage and water connection. Thanks for the vid
Well yes, but those are the basics. 99% of people will know that part. So I didn't want to waste time on those.
Depending on what type of mini-split you got I believe they have a dry mode you can run them on
Just found this video today but looking at the date of release I'd say y'all were way ahead of the rona curve. Good on you and love what you guys are doing! Thanks for the info.
We were Joshua, yes. I thought the world was going to end in 2015, I was 5 years early I guess. 🤣🤣🤣
But glad the world didn’t completely end.
Love all the ideas and things to avoid with this video. My wife and I have been talking about doing a shed more for a year or so now and I CAN NOT tell you the amount of times that I told her that we were going to do spray foam and I was stoked when you said alot of people wish they would have done the spray foam.
Very well done! Thank you for the great information. And great delivery I did not feel like you wasted my time.
Love the advice and Dave Ramsey references.