Kirk W It's hardly obvious. Many decks that are winning can lose and many decks that are losing can win. Tempo decks like rouge however are unlikely to do that.
Kirk W The entire premise of winning while losing is the basis of every single priest deck there is. It sounds stupid outside of the context of hearthstone, but is very correct inside the context of hearthstone.
*Kripperino orders Ogre to attack* Ogre: Wait a moment ol' chap. If I heroically sacrifice myself, I may be able to take that adventurers shield down and short circuit his cloaking systems thus giving you a chance to take him out before he grows too powerful. Farewell old bean! *charges in* Kripp: What a fucking dumbass! Liek if you cri evrytiem!
alfa0i0omega I never knew that ogres could unstealth minions like that. I know random target spells leave the minion in stealth if they hit it (like flamecannon on ravenholt assassin), but I guess I've never seen a stealth minion get attacked. I wonder if this is just with the cloak field or if it works on minions with intrinsic stealth.
Jesse Frederick actually, they unstealth if they attack, or cause damage, so if it dealt no damage it would not have unstealthed. Interesting, I assume if the ogre had divine shield too, the minion would not have unstealthed, as it would have been dealt no damage?
Carbon 12 I bet that's exactly it. That makes a lot more sense. It's forcing the stealthed minion to do damage in counter attacking. I suspect you're also correct about if they both had divine shields. Divine shields allow lots of weird exceptions, like if you implosion a divine shield it doesn't summon imps since it did 0 damage.
Alexander Markström Actually, Merriam-Webster just added a secondary definition to the word "literally" to mean, in effect, figuratively. www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/literally i.imgur.com/OIqidhy.jpg
Alexander Markström Cool story about reading comprehension, because you were obviously referencing the word *hedidit55* used when you said he was overreacting.
I've played a lot with this card myself, since even back in my early experiences in the closed Hearthstone beta I've been a fan of trying to make rogue decks that will destroy the meta. Basically, I see this as a card that rogues certainly can use, but is not what they needed...and that is for a number of reasons. One, rogues already have a hard enough time with having good stat-line minions for their class cards; aside from Anub'ar Ambusher (who has what I view as a negative deathrattle), most of the rogue class specfic minions are crap when it comes to stats and a 4/3 for 5 does not help at all in that respect. Even SI:7 Agent doesn't really hold up well anymore due to 3/3 for 3 being on the weak side now. People shouldn't be surprised anymore that the most popular rogue deck at any given time relies on a gimmick; its because rogues simply cannot go toe-to-toe on the board with anyone! Two, the battlecry is situational at best. Unless your opponent happens to be one of those really bad face hunters that uses nothing but two or less health minions in his deck, chances are you're not really gonna get insane value out of the Skulkers battlecry. And even if you use the Skulker against a full board of undamaged minions, regardless of how much health they have, you still might get the feeling of, "How does this help me again?" Sure, maybe it'll kill a minion, two if your lucky, but most of the time a lot of their minions will still be alive and you'll be at 5 less mana for the turn. And three, the battlecry is way overpriced for what it *actually* accomplishes. On paper, Blizzard, and maybe a lot of the community, thought this guy would be a 4/3 minion that also consecrates a board of 7 minions. Such value, much wow. In practice though, it usually ends up being a 5 mana SI:7 Agent with 1 more attack. But hey, that's just my thoughts. Should you still want to try this guy out for yourself, he seems to work...decently in rogue decks that really emphasize on early board control; that means decks that only bring a 1 of the Tinker's Sharpsword Oil and ditch those Southsea Deckhands for minions that battle more for the board, like the Goblin Auto Barber and Spider Tank.
I also tried to make a Control Rogue with Skulkers and 1 Gang Up. Skulker is awesome against agressive decks, but I had some problems against control decks. Rogue doesn't has enough great hard removals, They are to expensive.
(This regarding constructed) So I disagree with your first couple statements about rouge. Oil Rouge usually is "losing" in the opening turns due to you being mostly a control deck with comboish finish. around turn 4-6 is when you want to turn the tables, and out of no where gain huge advantage. So i think this is a great 1 of in the deck that helps you with minion aggro type decks. I think it is a must have for new Oil rouges
I wish this card wasn't the rare so that I would get it in my Rogue drafts (already have done 4 Rogue runs since it came out and have failed to get one). But then again, I guess I'm glad it isn't a common because it would compete for the most insane common card, certainly the best Rogue common (and naturally every Rogue I would face would have it).
I messed around with this card this week, and I had a pretty bad experience. Every now and then it would save my ass; however, I found it too slow most the time, it popped eggs, and is useless vs ERYBODYGETINHUR! His health is garbage as well. Most the time by the time you play this card, the game has already been decided.
Kripp: What's your approximate win/loss versus Helten? I realize you show wins to demonstrate a card or what not, but I'm just curious if you kick the crap out of him almost all the time or if he beats you up just as much?
Am I the only one who doesn't skip the kripp? I actually value his opinion and I feel as if his experience trumps the fact that he plays Helten every other game.
Wait what if u accidently play skulked while your oppenent has grim patron as 3/3 when it resume ones will it keep going on affect or will it stop on first one..... it just came to my head I'll test it later or god damn trolden will try it or that other guy just thought of it lol :P
that has to be a bug the skulker killing the mad scientist without a snipe secret ( cause you test and there was nothing before the play ) and mad scientist pulling out a snipe off the deck to kill off the skulker...
Whenever I see that he played the card in question against Helten I just don't take it seriously anymore. Helten only plays janky decks and the card only comes up circumstantially most of the time anyway.
I have to disagree rogue is one of the best classes from behind, with late game 2 oils and blade flury you leave your enemy in few hp and you clear his board at the same time, plus he has multiple ways of developing a board while he is clearing the enemy's
***** I'm sure there are dozens of people in his friends list that are 'halfway decent' at the game, not to mention the best way to test a gimmicky deck is to ladder it. Especially when he keeps going on about supposed viability, hows is the viability of a deck proven when against another gimmicky deck?
Kripp my last arena match made me feel so dirty, on turn 2 i played pint sized summoner, turn 3 raging worgen and avange, sumonner gts taken out i get 6-5 worgen, turn 4 blessing of kings on worgen and insta consede..... made me laght hard but now i feel bad :C
I am the only one that respects Helten because he prefers playing the game for fun with friends and do stupid gimmick decks like All Traps Hunter? Why do you hate him being featured so often in Kripp's videos? Because playing against him "proves" nothing about the worth of X card, deck or strategy because he's fails to be representative of the ladder? Do all of you watch Kripp in the vague hope that one of these videos will reveal an amazing "I win at Heartstone, Easy Game" deck that you can faceroll to rank 1 legend? Well read this and learn to be a better person : First : Even if Kripp would suddenly figure out such an amazing deck, EVERYONE would immediately pick it up and you'd be facing a bunch of mirrors which, as mirrors then to do, ends up averaging a 50/50 win rate, unless you're a better player than your opponents, in which case why do you even need an "unbeatable" deck? Second : Your failed expectations and extremely overreaching sense of entitlement doesn't give you any reason to shit on Helten. He doesn't order Kripp to include him in the videos. You can give shit to Kripp all you damn want, call him names and make demands and try to convince him your "advice" on how to produce his content will make for a sustainable business (Good luck with that), but Helten is innocent and deserves zero hate. Yet you repeatedly insult him and tell him to fuck off... dicks. /Random Internet White Knighting
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"if you are winning you're gona win, if you are losing you're gona lose" - revolutionary quotes here by the Krippster
you should skip him next time
Kirk W It's hardly obvious. Many decks that are winning can lose and many decks that are losing can win. Tempo decks like rouge however are unlikely to do that.
If you are just watching now, 4:56 to skip the kripp.
Kirk W The entire premise of winning while losing is the basis of every single priest deck there is. It sounds stupid outside of the context of hearthstone, but is very correct inside the context of hearthstone.
Kirk W Kripparian is the John Madden of Hearthstone.
*Kripperino orders Ogre to attack*
Ogre: Wait a moment ol' chap. If I heroically sacrifice myself, I may be able to take that adventurers shield down and short circuit his cloaking systems thus giving you a chance to take him out before he grows too powerful. Farewell old bean! *charges in*
Kripp: What a fucking dumbass!
Liek if you cri evrytiem!
alfa0i0omega i just cried
BibleThump
alfa0i0omega I never knew that ogres could unstealth minions like that. I know random target spells leave the minion in stealth if they hit it (like flamecannon on ravenholt assassin), but I guess I've never seen a stealth minion get attacked. I wonder if this is just with the cloak field or if it works on minions with intrinsic stealth.
Jesse Frederick actually, they unstealth if they attack, or cause damage, so if it dealt no damage it would not have unstealthed. Interesting, I assume if the ogre had divine shield too, the minion would not have unstealthed, as it would have been dealt no damage?
Carbon 12 I bet that's exactly it. That makes a lot more sense. It's forcing the stealthed minion to do damage in counter attacking. I suspect you're also correct about if they both had divine shields. Divine shields allow lots of weird exceptions, like if you implosion a divine shield it doesn't summon imps since it did 0 damage.
DARK IRON REVOLUTION
Oh hey Max
This isn't even fake god damn son
Kripp I demand some arena runs on youtube and you better deliver my friend.
GodUd6589 Why not just look at his stream recordings? All of his arena runs are stored there.
Kripp is not your friend mate, watch your words.
Clayton Anderson But you can't view the chat, which is almost as fun as watching Kripp's Stream.
Gold Roger There's actually a Chrome extension called ReChat for Twitch that displays recordings of twitch chat on twitch vods.
iluvredwall really ? Well thanks for the info sir Bomb, i'll take a look at this
4:56 to skip da Kripp. Thx for the organs bros.
8:37 for helten. Sorry it has come to this.
Dudebug2000 YAYYYYY THANK YOU I LOVE HELTEN!!!
Dudebug2000 Helten? DansGame
Thanks, man. You are a saint.
Dudebug2000 skipping kripp doesnt heal hunter-cancer what i need to do???
8:28 I love the fade out just as he concedes
i give up, i surrender to you Kripp The Almighty
Lars Norheim Godverdomme Lars
Daar word je toch schijt ziek van
REST IN PEPPERONI
That rogue was like:
- Oh fuck this shit, I'm outtie! * slams the door and cry *
Kripp are you ever going to consider 1080p60 uploads? It's so much nicer to watch than the 720p30 videos you upload currently.
Reached rank 10 for my first time!! I am so proud of my self ;D
Hokage Minato good job :) do you spend any money in the game ? and i am rank 2 :D
Lol
Im in legend rank n00bs
staley boss
I have the expansions ;)
you are in europe server ?
Ogre not dumb ogre win game ^^
RighteousNicky Ogre smarter than Kripp!
Skipperino the talkino to sniperono kripperino 4:59
You literally saved my life
hedidit55 you should go to a hospital instead of the comments then, you are overreacting alot
Alexander Markström Actually, Merriam-Webster just added a secondary definition to the word "literally" to mean, in effect, figuratively.
www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/literally
i.imgur.com/OIqidhy.jpg
CouchPotato252 cool story about a word that i didnt even use in my comment, if you read it again
Alexander Markström Cool story about reading comprehension, because you were obviously referencing the word *hedidit55* used when you said he was overreacting.
I made a controlly spell Rogue deck, and this guy helps a lot. Battlecry is almost as good as a consecration.
+A Wooden Cup plus the 4/3 is nice
I've played a lot with this card myself, since even back in my early experiences in the closed Hearthstone beta I've been a fan of trying to make rogue decks that will destroy the meta. Basically, I see this as a card that rogues certainly can use, but is not what they needed...and that is for a number of reasons.
One, rogues already have a hard enough time with having good stat-line minions for their class cards; aside from Anub'ar Ambusher (who has what I view as a negative deathrattle), most of the rogue class specfic minions are crap when it comes to stats and a 4/3 for 5 does not help at all in that respect. Even SI:7 Agent doesn't really hold up well anymore due to 3/3 for 3 being on the weak side now. People shouldn't be surprised anymore that the most popular rogue deck at any given time relies on a gimmick; its because rogues simply cannot go toe-to-toe on the board with anyone!
Two, the battlecry is situational at best. Unless your opponent happens to be one of those really bad face hunters that uses nothing but two or less health minions in his deck, chances are you're not really gonna get insane value out of the Skulkers battlecry. And even if you use the Skulker against a full board of undamaged minions, regardless of how much health they have, you still might get the feeling of, "How does this help me again?" Sure, maybe it'll kill a minion, two if your lucky, but most of the time a lot of their minions will still be alive and you'll be at 5 less mana for the turn.
And three, the battlecry is way overpriced for what it *actually* accomplishes. On paper, Blizzard, and maybe a lot of the community, thought this guy would be a 4/3 minion that also consecrates a board of 7 minions. Such value, much wow. In practice though, it usually ends up being a 5 mana SI:7 Agent with 1 more attack.
But hey, that's just my thoughts. Should you still want to try this guy out for yourself, he seems to work...decently in rogue decks that really emphasize on early board control; that means decks that only bring a 1 of the Tinker's Sharpsword Oil and ditch those Southsea Deckhands for minions that battle more for the board, like the Goblin Auto Barber and Spider Tank.
4:56 to skipperino the Kripparino, you're welcorimo
DIS is so good in Arena, I always pick it when playing Rogue in Arena and it's so worth
I also tried to make a Control Rogue with Skulkers and 1 Gang Up. Skulker is awesome against agressive decks, but I had some problems against control decks. Rogue doesn't has enough great hard removals, They are to expensive.
Kripp you should do a comparisson of nax cards and brm cards
got 3 of those in arena. literally the best thing that happened to me.
Needs moar traps!
I was laughing at that.
The moment you watch Kripps vids and you see that there is a new one uploaded 5 min ago
0:00 No skipperino kripperino
Next we will have, how good is totemic might?
(This regarding constructed) So I disagree with your first couple statements about rouge. Oil Rouge usually is "losing" in the opening turns due to you being mostly a control deck with comboish finish. around turn 4-6 is when you want to turn the tables, and out of no where gain huge advantage. So i think this is a great 1 of in the deck that helps you with minion aggro type decks. I think it is a must have for new Oil rouges
I wish this card wasn't the rare so that I would get it in my Rogue drafts (already have done 4 Rogue runs since it came out and have failed to get one).
But then again, I guess I'm glad it isn't a common because it would compete for the most insane common card, certainly the best Rogue common (and naturally every Rogue I would face would have it).
4:56 to skipperino kripperino, and stop at 8:26 to avoiderino helterino...
Who is Helten and why is Kripp playing him in every video?
It's his friend , they play together when they want to have some fun, like some shitty or creative decks.
Per sona Why do you care who helten is? Are you jelly?
Per sona parallel universe Kripp
Per sona A guy he knows he will beat 90% of the time.
Per sona his father
Tried a "Brute" rogue deck (healbots, blades, SI-7, pirates, and these guys)
Worked okay
I have to admit.I skip every part of kripp talking and watch his videos x2 faster. But still im a big follower.
I messed around with this card this week, and I had a pretty bad experience. Every now and then it would save my ass; however, I found it too slow most the time, it popped eggs, and is useless vs ERYBODYGETINHUR! His health is garbage as well. Most the time by the time you play this card, the game has already been decided.
Kripp
It's time for you to introduce the infamous Helten guy!
"How good is Helten?"
Fun stealth fact: A Knife Juggler throwing a knife ALSO takes it out of stealth
skiperino the talkarino of kripperino
4:55
At 8:32 press 13:50 to huck felten.
We called it at this match! We did it twitch chat.
That first game is the reason you ALWAYS play the top decked card.
I watch Kripp just because I like to hear articulate people speak.
I replaced the 3/3 that sends a random 4 damage bomb to a target for this guy, haven't look back.
Kripp: What's your approximate win/loss versus Helten? I realize you show wins to demonstrate a card or what not, but I'm just curious if you kick the crap out of him almost all the time or if he beats you up just as much?
"Ogre smarter than Kripp", that made me laugh so much, thanks for that.
Ok, so Kripp is sick Hearthstone. We must heal him! 1,5 year already he plays this. Do U remember the old version of random games playing Kripp?
Alt+F4 to skip the kripp.
Skipperino the Kripperino at 4:56
Below 301
I am number six who is watching the vid.
Oh and great video Kripp.
Video starts at 4:55
4:56 to skipperino kripperino
"How Good Is Dark Iron Skulker? incoming 4Head" was spammed in twitch chat, twitch chats know all.
The only problem with skulker is it competes with other awesome 5 drops like sludge belcher or antique.
4:55 to skip krip and watch the games.
You're welcome.
This card is amazing against face hunters
8:30 - 13:37 Skiperino helten fight.
How do you know how many wins your opponent has in the arena?
7:45 how did he just divine shield a stealth card?
+Shaquilly o'nilly You're able to target your own stealth minions but you opponent can't.
Decklist for the last duel ?
sick card imo.
4:55 to skipp the kripp
No dislikes? Let me fix this.
This card can occasionally be ridiculous, I once lost an arena game because the skulker decimated most of my board singlehandedly
I like the card!
>HOW GOOD IS ____
I swear to god if this is another fucking Helten game Kripp I swear to fucking god
4:56 to skipperino krippenrino
Am I the only one who doesn't skip the kripp? I actually value his opinion and I feel as if his experience trumps the fact that he plays Helten every other game.
Shut the fuck up.
Wait what if u accidently play skulked while your oppenent has grim patron as 3/3 when it resume ones will it keep going on affect or will it stop on first one..... it just came to my head I'll test it later or god damn trolden will try it or that other guy just thought of it lol :P
that has to be a bug the skulker killing the mad scientist without a snipe secret ( cause you test and there was nothing before the play ) and mad scientist pulling out a snipe off the deck to kill off the skulker...
Last trap is snakes. It has to be snakes.
I wish I had Kripp's "bad luck."
Whenever I see that he played the card in question against Helten I just don't take it seriously anymore. Helten only plays janky decks and the card only comes up circumstantially most of the time anyway.
Plz Dont skip kripparrian :(
Welcome to the 301 Club, where the likes outnumber the views.
OGRE SEE YOU! SMOrc
another helten game, another ResidentSleeper
I fast forwarded to 6 mins and i honestly thought it was constructed, that hand
Skulker might be the same as Gallowick, just a great card that unfortunately doesn't quite fit in current Rogue decks.
Dat Moment, when u want to BM but then decide to just finish xD
skipp the kripp button ------> 4:54
I have to disagree rogue is one of the best classes from behind, with late game 2 oils and blade flury you leave your enemy in few hp and you clear his board at the same time, plus he has multiple ways of developing a board while he is clearing the enemy's
Skipperino Kripperino 4:56
Why is he always playing with that Helten dude?
Elder Gamer So is your irrelevant response, don't like it don't reply, how about that?
***** I'm sure there are dozens of people in his friends list that are 'halfway decent' at the game, not to mention the best way to test a gimmicky deck is to ladder it. Especially when he keeps going on about supposed viability, hows is the viability of a deck proven when against another gimmicky deck?
John Doe I'm just saying my opinion, I tihnk your question was incredibly stupid.
John Doe Like he said they are bros and know each other for a longer time. (maybe even since wow times?) But I really dont know how long.
John Doe Because his fun decks can't win against anyone else Kappa
"that´s the double deckstep" and he gives up! nice one.
Kripp my last arena match made me feel so dirty, on turn 2 i played pint sized summoner, turn 3 raging worgen and avange, sumonner gts taken out i get 6-5 worgen, turn 4 blessing of kings on worgen and insta consede..... made me laght hard but now i feel bad :C
bogdan katic i was 2-1 atm and BAM hs closed- i was too dirty :d
this thing wrecks in arena
Ogre smarter than Kripp ROFL
Play Dark Iron Skulker, opponent concedes!
Ogre smarter than kripp ...roflao
Dark Iron Skulker sounds like a good warrior card
John B It also sounds like one of the worst cards to even run against warrior.
Playing against GhostDragon now...
Hey Krip, can I ask where do you reside? I don't ask detailes, just the country :P
***** Sir please take your finger off the ICBM launch button.
Also Greece.
Skipp Kripp 4:54
I am friends with the guy at 4:56 XD
Twitch chat was right
Skip the Kripp 4:55
What deck?
how doe it feel to be a role model to all the 7-12yo kids kripp hope its nice 10/10
I run one in my oil rogue
is hearstone is gone
RIP Zoolock...
Skripp Kipp 4:49
This card would be good as a 4/5.
+Anona Socah with a increase in mana to make it unplayable I think not
I am the only one that respects Helten because he prefers playing the game for fun with friends and do stupid gimmick decks like All Traps Hunter? Why do you hate him being featured so often in Kripp's videos? Because playing against him "proves" nothing about the worth of X card, deck or strategy because he's fails to be representative of the ladder? Do all of you watch Kripp in the vague hope that one of these videos will reveal an amazing "I win at Heartstone, Easy Game" deck that you can faceroll to rank 1 legend? Well read this and learn to be a better person :
First : Even if Kripp would suddenly figure out such an amazing deck, EVERYONE would immediately pick it up and you'd be facing a bunch of mirrors which, as mirrors then to do, ends up averaging a 50/50 win rate, unless you're a better player than your opponents, in which case why do you even need an "unbeatable" deck?
Second : Your failed expectations and extremely overreaching sense of entitlement doesn't give you any reason to shit on Helten. He doesn't order Kripp to include him in the videos. You can give shit to Kripp all you damn want, call him names and make demands and try to convince him your "advice" on how to produce his content will make for a sustainable business (Good luck with that), but Helten is innocent and deserves zero hate. Yet you repeatedly insult him and tell him to fuck off... dicks.
/Random Internet White Knighting
LiwenDiamond Hear, hear! Well said, my good Sir Knight!
LiwenDiamond I hereby dub you Sir Loin of Beef!
-Sword of justice flavor text
Did my youtube player change again?