This guy is kinda interesting because the normal argument of "Can get BGH'd" doesn't hold as much weight compared to other 7+ attack creatures. The whole reason why BGH is so good is that he causes a massive tempo swing. "Oh that guy just spent 9 Mana on that Thermaplugg? Lol lemme just pay 3 Mana to make it seem like it never existed". In this case, there is a massive 6 Mana loss for the opponent. With Lumberer however, that swing may not nearly be as big, usually only causing a 4, 3 or even 2 differential. So while ya, BGH killed something, congrats, it killed what was basically the same worth to your opponent as a Piloted Shredder. Plus, a BGH to your Lumberer means your Boom or other big guys get off scott free.
deenman23 The only reason a deck like Handlock works is that the Giant's mana costs can vary greatly. They aren't REALLY 12/20 Mana. If you had a deck with more than 8, 7 Mana or above minions, things start to break down.
Cole Klostermann You're missing the fact that the enemy minions die twice, so you'd only need the opponent to have 5 minions to make the lumberer free. Poison seeds kills 5 and then you kill the 5 treants that pop out with starfall. It could be a little cheaper depending on whether or not you had minions that also got eaten by poison seeds.
Ahem when it makes the 2/2s it "destroys" your minions and replaces them with 2/2s so ergo it's actually it's a pretty good combo plus there minions are killed x2 killing them, replacing them with 2/2s then killing all the 2/2s.
Cole Klostermann No, when you use poison seeds you actually kill creatures, and when you use starfall you kill more creatures. If the enemy has 4 creatures and you do this, you actually kill 8 minions, and I'm not even counting deathrattle creatures.
Mikhail Rothenberg To be fair, most cards can do well in Arena. This card just doesn't seem all that great 9 times out of ten in constructed. You need to be up against zoo or hunter or get a lucky swipe against a paladin. And even then if you have the mana to swipe and then throw down that 3 mana or whatever card, you could have put in a more all around viable card instead. And Trump has been wrong before, but he is a very knowledgeable HS player. "Krip" using it in its ideal state in Arena twice for this video doesn't prove Trumps assessment wrong. It could be good if and when the meta changes. But at the moment you would likely need to build a deck around it and hope you go against certain matchups, and hope you get the combo just to put out a cheap BGH target.
Ghostneedle1 Bro, come on. Even as a brony, that comment's a bit silly and far out there. Carrot Top is legend, colorful cartoon background equines just can't measure up.
I've been trying to make it work but I can't ever reduce the cost enough when I have a board and by the time I could I get cleared and end up playing it for 8 or 9 mana anyway
Brendan Beckett If you pay 8 mana for it, it's still about as good as an Ironbark Protector most of the time... and Ironbark is one of the better arena cards.
As Kripp kneeled before Chris Wilson, he begged for mercy. 'Chris, forgive me, and do unto me what Keyzus has planned'. Kripp wimpers. 'My son,' Chris replies, 'Keyzus forgives all.' and Chris places the crown of beta's on Kripps head. 'Now drink from thou's cup of HardCore, if not just to see what's different'. As Kripp tasted the HardCore, his tastebuds shivered from nostalgia. His body shook, it tasted just like the Orange Juice of old. 'I have a build idea.' Kripp said at last. 'I'm coming back.'.
It's going pretty well Kripp, just got home from work, about to eat a delicious sandwich with my bag of cheese fix munchies, thanks for always asking me how it's going, it really makes me feel like you care.
You are supposed to use Poison Seeds with it, because Poison seeds KILLS all minions and replaces them with Treants. So if you opponent has a full board, poison seeds, then Volcanic lumberer. If you have an Innervate, play a Starfall also.
Dumb question but wasn't that a missplay at 10:10 from him? Why play the bomber and risk not being able to play volcanic lumberer? If he trades his 2 creatures into 2 enemy creatures 4 creatures died, 5+4 = 9. Or did I miss anything?
Because he could've done something else if it failed, whereas doing 2 inefficient trades to get a big minion out could lose him the game if the warlock had siphon soul
Random thought: What if BGH were changed into a legendary (you can only have one, obviously) and stats changed into 4/4 same flavour text. Thoughts? Makes all the big cards viable again right?
At 10:20 you just needed to throw the slime in the 2-1 and the scarlet in an imp, this way you have 4 deaths and you can play the tree for 5 mana. No RNG involved.
If you Posion seeds starfall, does that acount as each minion dying twice? since one for the posion and then the tree dies? so four creatures = -8 mana, 10 mana destroy everything play a 7-8 taunt. edit:i didnt watch the video.
so the subliminal image of an eye at 17:50 was pretty freaky, and has made me realise i have noticed them in your videos before.. are you trying to reprogram me!?
goodfellowf It's not just kripp's videos. It's on Trump's videos, Reynad's, basically almost everyone who's streaming on twitch has that black thing pop up randomly. Very creepy.
The production quality of the videos have gone way up kripp. also you seam so happy and full of energy making these videos but stone cold and tame when you're on stream :O why such a difference?
It seems like a good card. But it doesn't seem very efficient, since it requires a specific condition to be met. If you play against priest, warrior or other control deck that plays fewer minions then you'll have a hard time summoning it for less than its original cost. When you do it gets instantly slaughter by bgh or another crap. Even though most people are running aggro so it might not be a big issue. And it might actually make face hunter go extinct and that's good :)
Volcanic Lumberer is also a great target for Recombobulator. Tranform it after it kills something, then the value shoots through the roof.......unless if you get Majordomo...then you cry...
Its weird.... Alot og people skip to the gameplay.... I listen to Kripp talking and never skip him.... And i always end the vidio when it comes to the gameplay
Alpha Delta Well it could, I could simply just not reply and be the bigger man. But it's funny seeing you attempt to 'troll' me because I wound you up a little haha
What if at 5:40 when he says, "other ideas which have seen some light in recent times' he followed by saying, "9/11 was an inside job." Then spent the rest of the episode talking about how 9/11 was orchestrated by our government while still bobbling his head and flailing his arms
well if it gets popular ppl will play 2 bgh's with also the new dragon decks, and even maybe blacknight. but i guess if you play it for 3 or 4 mana getting bgh is fine
The card on its own it not good but combined with poison seeds or starfall maybe even swipe make it good but wish it was 6 attack to put it out of bgh range. But nice video
I immediatey thought that this card will make poison seeds ok You (turn 10) poison seeds when your opponent has 3 or more minions, then forse of nature and trade treants in. relust: free Volcanic Lumberers
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This guy is kinda interesting because the normal argument of "Can get BGH'd" doesn't hold as much weight compared to other 7+ attack creatures. The whole reason why BGH is so good is that he causes a massive tempo swing. "Oh that guy just spent 9 Mana on that Thermaplugg? Lol lemme just pay 3 Mana to make it seem like it never existed". In this case, there is a massive 6 Mana loss for the opponent. With Lumberer however, that swing may not nearly be as big, usually only causing a 4, 3 or even 2 differential. So while ya, BGH killed something, congrats, it killed what was basically the same worth to your opponent as a Piloted Shredder. Plus, a BGH to your Lumberer means your Boom or other big guys get off scott free.
SBroproductions When will the theorycrafting end?
great point.
Tommybotham What the fuck are you talking about?
deenman23 You never want to have so many big minions in your deck. Then it just becomes Top heavy and you're left defenseless in the early game.
deenman23 The only reason a deck like Handlock works is that the Giant's mana costs can vary greatly. They aren't REALLY 12/20 Mana. If you had a deck with more than 8, 7 Mana or above minions, things start to break down.
Poison seeds + Starfall + Volcanic lumberer combo!!!
Cole Klostermann You're missing the fact that the enemy minions die twice, so you'd only need the opponent to have 5 minions to make the lumberer free. Poison seeds kills 5 and then you kill the 5 treants that pop out with starfall. It could be a little cheaper depending on whether or not you had minions that also got eaten by poison seeds.
Ahem when it makes the 2/2s it "destroys" your minions and replaces them with 2/2s so ergo it's actually it's a pretty good combo plus there minions are killed x2 killing them, replacing them with 2/2s then killing all the 2/2s.
Cole Klostermann
No, when you use poison seeds you actually kill creatures, and when you use starfall you kill more creatures. If the enemy has 4 creatures and you do this, you actually kill 8 minions, and I'm not even counting deathrattle creatures.
Cole Klostermann Wow. Fail.
Kappa
Cole Klostermann wow you're stupid
Skipperino kripperino at 7:36. For each second kripp talks, I lose an organ. I am down to just my heart and lungs. I'm a skeleton.
You saved my life again. I'll name my first born son Dudebug.
Thx
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Dudebug2000 ty , i will pray for you
Dudebug2000 wtf why? xD
Click here to skip to the beginning: 0:00
redryan20000 Thanks man!
its going very fine ... thx for asking kripparian
How good is volcanic skipperino 7:37
Thx bro
S34G4T3 you saved 7:37 minutes of my life bro
Ur the real mvp
S34G4T3 literally saved 7:37 of my life
EDIT: nvm, skipped to a helten game.. 8:23 for the REAL skipp
S34G4T3 ty bro saved my fucking life
Deathwing + lumberer, new OP druid combo deck
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"This card will not see play." - Trump, BRM Card Review Part 6
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'Dr.boom is not so good' - Trump GVG Card Review
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Mikhail Rothenberg To be fair, most cards can do well in Arena. This card just doesn't seem all that great 9 times out of ten in constructed. You need to be up against zoo or hunter or get a lucky swipe against a paladin. And even then if you have the mana to swipe and then throw down that 3 mana or whatever card, you could have put in a more all around viable card instead.
And Trump has been wrong before, but he is a very knowledgeable HS player. "Krip" using it in its ideal state in Arena twice for this video doesn't prove Trumps assessment wrong. It could be good if and when the meta changes. But at the moment you would likely need to build a deck around it and hope you go against certain matchups, and hope you get the combo just to put out a cheap BGH target.
'I also love the card because it reminds me of carrot top.'
Kripp brony confirmed! >.>
atindelta lol where?
Ghostneedle1 Bro, come on. Even as a brony, that comment's a bit silly and far out there. Carrot Top is legend, colorful cartoon background equines just can't measure up.
CouchPotato252 What if I told you that MLP carrot top was the only carrot top I know? morpheus.jpg
Celerfot now that carrot top makes more sense
CouchPotato252 Im pretty sure he was joking.
I've been trying to make it work but I can't ever reduce the cost enough when I have a board and by the time I could I get cleared and end up playing it for 8 or 9 mana anyway
Brendan Beckett same for me. I am going to give another shot after watching this video
Brendan Beckett If you pay 8 mana for it, it's still about as good as an Ironbark Protector most of the time... and Ironbark is one of the better arena cards.
bobdonda Talking about constructed
Brendan Beckett Well, in constructed think that you can play Lumberer AND another cards :v
Maybe you're using it in the wrong deck. I could play 2 lumberers for 0 with a poison seeds + starfall combo on my mill druid. It works really well
I like it when older cards make comebacks in competition i.e. Violet Teacher. Good video
As Kripp kneeled before Chris Wilson, he begged for mercy. 'Chris, forgive me, and do unto me what Keyzus has planned'. Kripp wimpers. 'My son,' Chris replies, 'Keyzus forgives all.' and Chris places the crown of beta's on Kripps head. 'Now drink from thou's cup of HardCore, if not just to see what's different'. As Kripp tasted the HardCore, his tastebuds shivered from nostalgia. His body shook, it tasted just like the Orange Juice of old. 'I have a build idea.' Kripp said at last. 'I'm coming back.'.
Not funny, but keep trying, man.
Here's to skip the first 1 minute 48 seconds. For no reason. 1:48
It's going pretty well Kripp, just got home from work, about to eat a delicious sandwich with my bag of cheese fix munchies, thanks for always asking me how it's going, it really makes me feel like you care.
Anybody know what the image is on 17:52? I see this all the time on Kripp's stream.
You are supposed to use Poison Seeds with it, because Poison seeds KILLS all minions and replaces them with Treants. So if you opponent has a full board, poison seeds, then Volcanic lumberer. If you have an Innervate, play a Starfall also.
Volcanic Lumberer ranked grade: Helten.
Marek Smoliński helten+ please he won the game
If he would lose it wouldn't be Helten grade. :)
Dumb question but wasn't that a missplay at 10:10 from him? Why play the bomber and risk not being able to play volcanic lumberer? If he trades his 2 creatures into 2 enemy creatures 4 creatures died, 5+4 = 9. Or did I miss anything?
Because he could've done something else if it failed, whereas doing 2 inefficient trades to get a big minion out could lose him the game if the warlock had siphon soul
I'v actually have been playing a Token Druid since launch and I was so pumped when I saw Volcanic Lumberer because of all the potential
How good is Volcanic Lumberer? Really good, if you only play against Helten.
BlandySnorton Freaking true
That paladin he fought had a really cool deck. Was really rooting for him.
All hail lord helten
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at about 17:51 the ring appears. Slow down the video to see it
Hey Kripp Volcanic Lumberer also combos with poison seed. I was thinking about putting this card in the resident sleeper.
Random thought: What if BGH were changed into a legendary (you can only have one, obviously) and stats changed into 4/4 same flavour text. Thoughts? Makes all the big cards viable again right?
i think this card will work great in a mill druid, after you use the poison seeds + starfall combo, since the minions dies 2 times
This ranked games with Helten ... So true opinion about Card.
hey, don't you think creepers would be better in this deck than 2 eggs for example? I think creepers in a deck like this is very important
At 10:20 you just needed to throw the slime in the 2-1 and the scarlet in an imp, this way you have 4 deaths and you can play the tree for 5 mana.
No RNG involved.
"I also love this card because it reminds me of Carrot Top." Easily the best thing I have heard all week, I spit out my coke laughing.
If you Posion seeds starfall, does that acount as each minion dying twice? since one for the posion and then the tree dies? so four creatures = -8 mana, 10 mana destroy everything play a 7-8 taunt.
edit:i didnt watch the video.
During the skipperino kripperino part, why don't you use the golden versions of the cards? just for coolnes
@Kripparian- I watch you stream and your system clock is always off? Are you still in Canada?
so the subliminal image of an eye at 17:50 was pretty freaky, and has made me realise i have noticed them in your videos before.. are you trying to reprogram me!?
goodfellowf It's not just kripp's videos. It's on Trump's videos, Reynad's, basically almost everyone who's streaming on twitch has that black thing pop up randomly. Very creepy.
Would love a link to that kinguin vod. Google keeps giving me old games
0:09 'Bout a week agooooo
Looks like I wasn't the only one then :P
Dovah Viking I didn't get it.... Could u explain, please?
00Brun Just a reference to a pathetic song.
Dovah Viking Oh thanks... I just checked it out and well... that was at best weird .... XD
8:16 - fade just before the Holy Nova...
WTF is that at 17:51 Kripp do you play angry birds??????
The production quality of the videos have gone way up kripp. also you seam so happy and full of energy making these videos but stone cold and tame when you're on stream :O why such a difference?
Because twitch chat
It seems like a good card. But it doesn't seem very efficient, since it requires a specific condition to be met. If you play against priest, warrior or other control deck that plays fewer minions then you'll have a hard time summoning it for less than its original cost. When you do it gets instantly slaughter by bgh or another crap.
Even though most people are running aggro so it might not be a big issue. And it might actually make face hunter go extinct and that's good :)
I like how in the beginning krip ignores that the card counts all minions so you can get it down to 0 with trades and kills.
Could volcanic lumberer work with poison seeds?
where can i see some recent tournament plays. Please post me if you know
What internet page is that where he checks the tier lists ?
Volcanic Lumberer is also a great target for Recombobulator. Tranform it after it kills something, then the value shoots through the roof.......unless if you get Majordomo...then you cry...
lol, listening to kripp at 2x speed is funny lol. those skills at listening to speed-readers in my youth are paying off
Kripparrian what is the arena value site that u recomend?
I haven't played it but I would think poison seeds + volcanic lumberer would be good.
Druid now basically has 4 copies of Ironbark Protector. OP
guys, i plan on getting 1 of either nax or blackrock, which should i buy? why?
I really like the artwork to this card though.
Plus this card synergizes with death wing really well Keepo
poop licker You are losing your cards, when playing Deathwing, lol.
DEn Bond That is the joke dude FailFish
DEn Bond loot hoarder exists guys
Krip blowing up over here!
17:52 what is that...thing?
Kripp try adding posion seeds maybe as it might create a really interesting combo :)
7:37 to skipperino the kripperino
'Not overpowered. Just super-super-solid'
Sounds good. Might try it :)
Ancient of War+BGH/Dr Bmlanced make this card subpar don't them?
What If YOU Play DOOMsayer behind A taunt Wall With 2 lumbs in hand
7:36 TO SKIPPERINO KRIPPERINO
Lol does the abo-box dont work cause i didnt got a message that kripp has a new vid
Its weird.... Alot og people skip to the gameplay.... I listen to Kripp talking and never skip him.... And i always end the vidio when it comes to the gameplay
At 16:17 should've Dr. Boom + Wrathed the shredder!
How did pally had gazzlowe again?
What tournament did Tides win with the mill druid?
***** Cheers!
You care so much. You need to get a life.
Alpha Delta _Says the child going through all my old comments because I pissed you off LOL_
RandomCrapOfTheLane
- You didn't piss me off kiddo, you just painted a target on your back, and now it never ends.
Alpha Delta Well it could, I could simply just not reply and be the bigger man. But it's funny seeing you attempt to 'troll' me because I wound you up a little haha
try it with poisen seeds ! (:
i wonder if elemental will ever become a kind of minion
I don't get the people complaining about "the talk" at the start of the video. That's the most interesting thing.
What if at 5:40 when he says, "other ideas which have seen some light in recent times' he followed by saying, "9/11 was an inside job." Then spent the rest of the episode talking about how 9/11 was orchestrated by our government while still bobbling his head and flailing his arms
krip why don't you make some how good is paladin class or other clasess?
kripp releases this video on 4/20.
the card is a burning tree.
ayy lmao
Watch from 6:40 - 7:30 in .5 speed
00:04 to skipperino the logorino
This ain't your Mom's Ironbark Protector
De ce nu faci si in Romana cateva Play-uri ?
What if theres 9 minions on the board and you play deathwing, would you get it for free?
what is SmorC? at this rate im afraid to ask (sorry for bad English)
SmorC Aways face SmorC
Danlord GT Batman ANSWER ME!!!!
It means SmorC.
well if it gets popular ppl will play 2 bgh's with also the new dragon decks, and even maybe blacknight. but i guess if you play it for 3 or 4 mana getting bgh is fine
Can't wait for a mage to get one of these from unstable portal.
Didn't you say this card was going to be absolutely horrible in your review?
Even Ironbark Protector laughs at this card.
Kripp posts a video about burning trees on the fourth of April? 420 confirmed Keepo
Imgine this ent potential when the dragon with the same effect gets released... *Combo intensefies*
Poison Seeds + Starfall ?
The card on its own it not good but combined with poison seeds or starfall maybe even swipe make it good but wish it was 6 attack to put it out of bgh range. But nice video
in arena, bgh isn't really a thing you have to worry about. In constructed, you're ok with this guy getting bgh'd. good card.
The last game was... wow.
tides won a tourney with this in fatigue druid
Watch at 0.5 speed for the best experience.
I immediatey thought that this card will make poison seeds ok
You (turn 10) poison seeds when your opponent has 3 or more minions, then forse of nature and trade treants in. relust: free Volcanic Lumberers
You CAN kill 8 minions with swipe! just have a 1 health pyromancer on the board when you do it
Every time Kripp asks me how it's going but he never answers !!!
BibleThump
7:35 skiperino kripperino potatorino residentrino sleeprino talkrino
Ive never gotten two legendaries but you consistently have 3-4, RNG-sus must love you
I could only imagine poison seeds on a board of 8 minions. You slam down 2 Lumberers and 2 Sea Giants
7:35 Stripp for Kripp.
One time I poison seeded into double swipe to drop 2 Lumberers and that dragon I forget the name of.
420 volcanic it.
The second B in bomber is silent.
Skipperino Kirpperino 07:36
I mean if you swipe a full board with boom bots or painful deathrattles you could cast it for 0 if your minions die. Just saying lol