Are Croatian and Serbian the Same or Different Language?
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- Are Croatian and Serbian the same or different language?
What are the differences between Croatian and Serbian language?
Do people in Croatia understand Serbian and vice versa?
These are the questions that people ask me the most, and in this video I will answer all of those question with the help of Nela Chop, my mom, who has great knowledge and understanding of language because she has worked as a translator and court interpreter for Croatian and English, and she's also writing books and poetry.
Besides that, she was born in Yugoslavia and has lived half of her life during Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (SFRJ), and the other half during the Republic of Croatia, so she is the best person to make this video with!
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Keywords: Croatian, Serbian, Serbocroatian language, Differences between Croatian and Serbian language, Are Croatian and Serbian the same
Nice! As a Serbian out in the world, I can confirm that people ask me this question on a daily basis :D
Zdravo Nebojša! Thank you! I am glad you commented that, it's completely true 😃
@@CroatianExperiencewithSanda : Hello, good video but the final question was, when you speak in croatian one serbian understand what you said? That's the important and why don't united in one language? Thank you
Nestor Villa yes a Serb would understand all and vice versa, even the small
Differences that might occur due to dialects(which are more varied within the countries than the standards are between each other) or national standards, it’s one of those things you can usually understand from the context or just learn it at the spot. They are mutually intelligible, just like different accents of English are or German in Germany and Austria. Perhaps they are even more similar even more than English accents since you know there aren’t seas between Croatia and Serbia like there is between England, Australia and the States. :D
@@nestorvilla3605 This is just that there is a not an universal name for it. Outside of former Yugoslavia, it is possible to say 'Serbocroatian'. Maybe a practical name could be 'Yugoslav'. Inside the four Serbocroatian languages countries the phrase 'naš jezik' exists ('our language). The fact is depending your standard : Serbian, Montenegrin, Bosnian or Croatian you call it one of these four names. Probably because it neutralises the debate with the nationalists.
@@nestorvilla3605 It was united in a language called "Serbocroatian" or "Serbo-Croatian", but politics have her own reasons and logic. And one more fact: Serbian official literary language have origin and roots in ordinary peoples language from the Valjevo region in Central Serbia, while Croatian official literary language is just one agreed language norm which is not spoken as such in any part of Croatia or regions where Croats lives, from Hercegovina to Međimurje, or Kvarner.
Thanks to the breakup of Yugoslavia, I became polyglot. I speak Croatian, Montenegrin, Serbian, Bosnian and Slovenian. I also understand Macedonian well.
Haha 😂
The Croatian language is in relation to Serbian what Mexican is in relation to Spanish, or "American" in relation to ENGLISH...!
The Croatian language actually does not exist... It is the language of the Serbs who live in Croatia and whose language has become the official official language of the state of Croatia...! Understand: Croats have 2 dialects "Chakavian" and "Kaikavian" which do not understand each other - so they took the Serbian language (Appropriated the Serbian language and script) to be able to communicate with each other...
@@milosmilosic2632 Serbian language is mix of croatian, bulgarian, turkish and greek language....
i am too I know Croatian Montenegrin Serbian Bosnian and English
As a Serbian I think that Serbian, Croatian, Bosnian and Montenegrin are same language but politic make "different"
as laik you need to ride few books
As a linguist, I can confirm that.
@@PatrikCROTV Croatian books? :D
Modern Croatian linguistic books are politically motivated.
@@jeboshifru no all books american, british, frecnk, italian, german, polish, czech, hunagrian all books and old and new, learn croatian and learn serbian than you will see deiferecents and similaritis, accents, history, and dialects of that languege, linguists know that, but some normal people who are not profesionals dont know and they just saying nonsense they talk nonsense based on songs (zabavna glazba, cajke) and realities, you must know that cajke and realities are not life, you are not an expert at it, you are just avarage person who dont care about history, cluture, langauges, you probably think portugal ans spain is the same, just dont talking about something you dont know about and show respect tp other countries, nations, langauges, history, culutur and other, image that i say that we all speak croatian, and you first would be offended
@@PatrikCROTV How could you read all those American and British books with your beginner level English? :D
However, I have no doubt that there are many far-right books about languages that have no actual relation to linguistics.
But try to inform yourself in the department for Slavistics at the University of Vienna. No right-wing ideology there, only science :)
They also have a very large and rich library, with numerous books on the subject.
Well i am Serbian and i watch Croatian youtubers and i understand absolutely everything lol.
Ah yes polish flag
to czemu masz polską flage?
@@apollon6870 me a Russian speaker perfectly understanding that apollon is asking why you have Polish flag as your profile icon.
I am American and I speak Croatian and always seek out knowledge whether from HR, Serbia, RS, Bulgaria, Bosnia and so on.
@@doloressverko9887 are you born Murican to immigrant parents?
How would you say "This is the same language" in these languages? Croatian: "To je isti jezik". Serbian: "To je isti jezik". What was your question again?
Ako narodi broje jednako od jedan do deset, to je isti jezik. Bez obzira ko šta rekao. Ja Hrvat znam čirilicu perfekt i ne stidim se. Svako znanje više je dobro došlo. Kamo sreće da znam i kinesko pismo🇭🇷🇷🇸
Кад видим латиницу зовем то хрватским, кад видим ћирилицу зовем српским. Исти језик, два писма. Тако и децу учим.
@@munze cirilica nije srpsko pismo, srbi ga samo koriste.
@@kategoried7501 Види овог, ђе сам рекао да ћирилицу поседују Срби?
@@munze as russian i can say that i understand 90% of what u said.
My teacher once told us the difference between Serbian and Croatian. She explained it as:
Serbians:
kuća (house/home) - domaćica (housewife)
Croatian:
dom (home) - kućanica (housewife)
However it makes more sense to say: dom - domaćica; kuća - kućanica. But in reality it isn't so.
So to avoid the confusion I say that Serbian and Croatian are like English in America and Great Britain. You understand everything but we have different accent, few different phrases and we also have Cyrillic.
It is a nice anecdote, but the claim is not completely true. Actually, the word "kuća" means "House", and basically applies to the building, but "dom" has a wider meaning which is "Home" as a place where we live, worm nest for family (where your Heart is :)). So "Housewife" is someone who works at home, and can be rented as a professional worker, while "domaćica" (is there a word - Homewife?😊 ) is someone who takes care of her own home and family and is not employed on some other job, so these are two different, if I may say, "roles", where Serbian form "domaćica" is much precise and comprehensive.
The Croatian language is in relation to Serbian what Mexican is in relation to Spanish, or "American" in relation to ENGLISH...!
The Croatian language actually does not exist... It is the language of the Serbs who live in Croatia and whose language has become the official official language of the state of Croatia...! Understand: Croats have 2 dialects "Chakavian" and "Kaikavian" which do not understand each other - so they took the Serbian language (Appropriated the Serbian language and script) to be able to communicate with each other...
@@djolemadzarevic As a Croatian speaker I agree with Đorđe. In Croatian we also have both kuća and dom, kućanica and domaćica. Each of the words has its own, separate meaning. They're not Serbian/Croatian synonyms.
Bok.
Prvo da velim, nisam stručnjak po pitanju jezika ... (kad malo bolje razmislim nisam stručnjak po pitanju ničega), ali moje mišljenje je da uz sve razlike u rječniku i gramatici, razlika hrvatskog i srpskog jezika više je pitanje politike nego lingvistike.
A kaj se tiče učenja jezika u školi (u osnovnu sam išao od '81-'82 do '88-'89), predmet se službeno zvao hrvatski ili srpski jezik, a ne hrvatskosrpski. Čirilicu smo učili u trečem razredu (bez nekog velikog pritiska), a strane jezike smo počeli u četvrtom. U mojoj školi od stranih jezika su se učili njemački, engleski i ruski. Moj razred su zapali ruski i engleski (ruski je bio obavezan, a engleski izborni), tak da sam na kraju čirilicu ipak naučio.
Pozdrav iz Zagreba.
Bok, dobrodošao na moj kanal i hvala za tvoj komentar. Politika se uvijek svugdje upliće, pa i u jezik 😊 Hvala što si podijelio svoje iskustvo i opisao kako je tebi bilo u školi, baš zanimljivo da ti je ruski bio obavezan strani jezik! Veliki pozdrav u Zagreb iz kišne Rijeke!
Ja sam roden nakon raspada Juge ali sve jedno sam naucio cirilicu i malo ruskog cisto radi zabave. Iskreno nisam znao da se prije ruski ucio u osnovnoj pa mi je to zanimljivo, a srpski nisam trebo ucit, znaci ima tih par razlika ali nis to nije posebno ako ti je jedan od ta dva jezika materinji. Ono kod cega mi imamo prednost je da se mozemo pohvalit da smo poligloti odnosno bar da pricamo 4 jezika (HR, SRB, BIH, CG) I mozda engleski.
@@LukaDebiL hahah :D da ! upravo to :) Ja tako zajebavam druzstvo da znam 7 jezika :D
Bugarski
Makedonski
Srpski
Hrvatski
Bosanski
Crnogorski
Engleski
:D
Flia Lua
, pitao sam rodzaka koi je davno rodzen u Jugoslaviji pa mi je rekao da u Beogradu je bilo obrnuto, ulici su prvo cirilicu pa onda latinicu ,cak su i neke pesmice na slovenskom i makedonskom ucili u osnovnoj skoli :)
@@intel386DX I onda Amerikanci kazu da smo neobrazovani xD
Greska: u Srbiji se isto kaze Ja ću ići, ispravno.
Takodje zanimljivo: izraz Trbuhom za kruhom u srpskom, kao i Uhljeb u hrvatskom...
Zanimljivo je i da svi u Srbiji znaju šta znači mrkva ali ne znaju sta je ručnik ( peškir )...
@@vlax12 Neki znamo
vlax12 znamo
@@vlax12 to je jos lako ali lokalne izraze ni mi u hrvatskoj neznamo sve.
@@zoran9a3hpdiy Isto je i u Srbiji
your mothers accent in english is amazing, im guessing she lived in the u.s for a while
Thanks, I love her accent! She didn't live in the U.S. but she attended american primary school abroad for several years.
The Croatian language is in relation to Serbian what Mexican is in relation to Spanish, or "American" in relation to ENGLISH...!
The Croatian language actually does not exist... It is the language of the Serbs who live in Croatia and whose language has become the official official language of the state of Croatia...! Understand: Croats have 2 dialects "Chakavian" and "Kaikavian" which do not understand each other - so they took the Serbian language (Appropriated the Serbian language and script) to be able to communicate with each other...
@@CroatianExperiencewithSanda Can you block this serbian troll milos milosic?
@@kategoried7501 good idea he don't know facts
Interesting memories, thank you for this video, greetings from Czechoslovakia :)
Ja volin Cehoslovacka! pozdrav iz Jugoslavija :)
pozdrav iz srpske jugoslovenske republike!!!
The Croatian language is in relation to Serbian what Mexican is in relation to Spanish, or "American" in relation to ENGLISH...!
The Croatian language actually does not exist... It is the language of the Serbs who live in Croatia and whose language has become the official official language of the state of Croatia...! Understand: Croats have 2 dialects "Chakavian" and "Kaikavian" which do not understand each other - so they took the Serbian language (Appropriated the Serbian language and script) to be able to communicate with each other...
What a wonderful analogy your mom gave!
Yes, she's great! :)
The Croatian language actually does not exist... It is the language of the Serbs who live in Croatia and whose language has become the official official language of the state of Croatia...! Understand: Croats have 2 dialects "Chakavian" and "Kaikavian" which do not understand each other - so they took the Serbian language (Appropriated the Serbian language and script) to be able to communicate with each other...
Thank you so much for your videos, this information is much needed and you come across in such an entertaining way! Puno hvala.
There is no doubt of the near 100% mutual intelligibility of (standard) Croatian and (standard) Serbian, as is obvious from the ability of all groups to enjoy each others’ films, TV and sports broadcasts, newspapers, rock lyrics etc. Differences between various standard forms of Serbian (some people call it Croatian or Bosnian or Montenegrin etc.) are often exaggerated for political reasons. Most Croatian linguists regard Croatian as a separate language that is considered key to national identity. Exposing this delusion of separate language publicly and scientifically will annihilate their sense of nationhood.
@Ivica Radić Removing the name of language (CROATUAN, or Montinegroan, or Bosnianhercegouvian) as they are symbol of their existence of nation does not deny their existence. Language, as Croatians do not have any, does not present a basis for their identity. Croatian are basing their identity on some other aspects for which they are well known by beyond Balkans. Embracing their other aspects of identity will ensure their existence, as very few nations will be able in clear conscience to embrace same values.
The Croatian language is in relation to Serbian what Mexican is in relation to Spanish, or "American" in relation to ENGLISH...!!
100% same language
100% same race of people
@wagner1va
wrong
I am majority
True 100%
The Croatian language actually does not exist... It is the language of the Serbs who live in Croatia and whose language has become the official official language of the state of Croatia...! Understand: Croats have 2 dialects "Chakavian" and "Kaikavian" which do not understand each other - so they took the Serbian language (Appropriated the Serbian language and script) to be able to communicate with each other...!?
Hvala, that was useful!
Nema na čemu! 😀
Your videos like this are very helpful to me!
Thank you, I'm glad my videos are useful!
The Croatian language actually does not exist... It is the language of the Serbs who live in Croatia and whose language has become the official official language of the state of Croatia...! Understand: Croats have 2 dialects "Chakavian" and "Kaikavian" which do not understand each other - so they took the Serbian language (Appropriated the Serbian language and script) to be able to communicate with each other...!!
"You undrestood the Serbian lenguage without any problem" lol. Its the same lenguage with at most 2% difference.
The Croatian language is in relation to Serbian what Mexican is in relation to Spanish, or "American" in relation to ENGLISH...!!
The Croatian language actually does not exist... It is the language of the Serbs who live in Croatia and whose language has become the official official language of the state of Croatia...! Understand: Croats have 2 dialects "Chakavian" and "Kaikavian" which do not understand each other - so they took the Serbian language (Appropriated the Serbian language and script) to be able to communicate with each other...
Of course they are the same language, they understand each other without problems. End of story. Language is not politics.
But it's languages were used throughout history for political reasons, so I think today we can't really look at them as completely separate and only connected to culture.
@@CroatianExperiencewithSanda Hello Sanda. Nice to see some explanation on this topic. I would just point out, Mileram isn't serbian word and it is not used too much in Serbia, it comes from german producer of this product Müller Rahm. Our much more used term for croatian term Vrhnje would be "Pavlaka".
The Croatian language is in relation to Serbian what Mexican is in relation to Spanish, or "American" in relation to ENGLISH...!!
I need to point out some things.
You can also use the future tense with the infinitive in Serbian e.g. "Ja ću ići", or "ići ću". It is used a little bit less than "Ja ću da idem", but it's very very common. The northern you go, the more it's used.
Serbian has both ekavica and ijekavica.
You're right about "vrhnje", few people would understand. In Serbia we call it "pavlaka". We also have mileram, I've seen that product in the stores, but I'm not sure what it is xD
And about the other words, everybody knows what mrkva, kruh, kino, škare, otok are... And I think marelica is a type of apricot in Serbian.
It's strange that she says her textbooks were called Hrvatski jezik, because even in the 90's in Serbia, our textbooks were called Serbocroatian language.
The Croatian language is in relation to Serbian what Mexican is in relation to Spanish, or "American" in relation to ENGLISH...!
The Croatian language actually does not exist... It is the language of the Serbs who live in Croatia and whose language has become the official official language of the state of Croatia...! Understand: Croats have 2 dialects "Chakavian" and "Kaikavian" which do not understand each other - so they took the Serbian language (Appropriated the Serbian language and script) to be able to communicate with each other...
Croatian and serbian are same??
@@milosmilosic2632
😁😁😁 Koliko ćeš još puta sa napišeš isti tekst...Jel' ti to želiš da dokažeš kako su Srbi PAPAGAJI koji znaju samo da ponavljaju svoje "mantre" iako ih ni sami ne razumeju 😁😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 ???
@@milosmilosic2632
Koji si ti IDIOT 😁😁😁
Nemaš "veze sos vezu" ...
Hrvati su imali svoj jezik, koji je u sastavu A-U monarhije bio službeni jezik jednako kao i nemački i mađarski...i jedini su imali i svoj parlament...Kako beše sa Srbima kad su bili pod Turcima???
Wrong, I am 56 old and in school I us to learn "hrvatsko srpski" in Croatia. And both alphabet and I am nothing special. Only instead russian Iearn english but just few generation. So english I learn in elementary, midlle school and hi school.
So when older woman claim that she learn only croatian language and latinic letters it cannot be real.
Gospodja se nije dobro izrazila. Drzavni jezik je bio srpako-hrvatski ili hrvatsko-srpski. U skoli knjizevni jezik kao predmet se nazivao Srpski samo (imam srpski cas, recimo npr.) Sto je ona verovatno htela da kaze da se u Hrvatakoj knjizevni predmet u skoli nazivao Hrvataki. I mi u Srbiji smo ucili obadva pisma uporedo. Azbuku od prvog razreda a latinicu of drugog razreda osnovne kole i koristili smo obadva pisma naizmenicno do kraja srednjeg skolovanja.
it was her personal experience
@@deshawndedavis2040 it can not be her personal experience only when the educational program was same for everyone in Yougoslavia no matter which Republic you lived in. Simply because people moved for work all over Yugoslavia, and the high school diplomas , Uni degrees, masters and doctorates were attained in a same manner. Looks like education wasn't her strong suit.
@wagner1va we all had same school educational program from grade 1-8 primary school and next 4 years of high school. Our schooling program was one of the toughest and hardest in the world. It's was a government issued program that all teachers and professors had to follow. Our grading system was exactly the same. So personal experience can only come from home and how much education was valued at home, how much parents worked with children etc.
@wagner1va what you don't understand is there was no choice for educators. It was a komunist regime. Lots of our individual coulture and religion was suppressed due to a system.
For both grammar is the same!!! Few different words yes we have but mostly those are the synonyms - as a Serb that lives closer to the Croatian border I use some of the mentioned Croatian words more... so basically difference between Serbian & Croatian (...and Bosnian & Montenegrin)
is like difference between American English, Canadian English, Irish English, Scottish English, British English, Australian English...
The Croatian language is in relation to Serbian what Mexican is in relation to Spanish, or "American" in relation to ENGLISH...!
The Croatian language actually does not exist... It is the language of the Serbs who live in Croatia and whose language has become the official official language of the state of Croatia...! Understand: Croats have 2 dialects "Chakavian" and "Kaikavian" which do not understand each other - so they took the Serbian language (Appropriated the Serbian language and script) to be able to communicate with each other...
Yes same for peoples like you with one from Serbian/Croatian
You clearly have no idea what grammar is! 😂
Grammar is the biggest difference between croatian and serbian! How can they be same? 🤦
Uz dužno poštovanje ova gospodja nema pojma
Svatko tko uspoređuje srpski i hrvatski dobije ovakav komentar...
Yes
Hrvatski je puno cisci slavenski za razliku od srpskog koji ima puno vise stranih rtijeci pogotovo turskih i grckih...
@@kategoried7501 aj ne kenjaj , da je tako ja ne bih razmueo to sto si ti sad napisao, a ti ne bi razumeo ovo sto sam ja , srpski i hrvataki su jedan te isti jezik i to je cinjenica , politika je kriva za sve ...
@@kategoried7501 ............................... Izmišljaš. Ništa manje turcizama nema u tkz. hrvatskom jeziku. Citiram:
Evo nekolicine turskih riječi koje smo usvojili u hrvatskom jeziku, a za koje zapravo i ne postoje domaći ekvivalenti:
šećer, bakar, badem, alat, bubreg, čarapa, džep, jastuk, jogurt, krevet, kutija, majmun, pamuk, rakija, tava, sat, top, boja, limun, badem, sapun, tambura, baklava, tulumba, burek, rahat lokum, džezva, ćevap, čorba, findžan/fildžan, ćup, bunar, oluk, tavan, čardak, kat, kapija, avlija, merak, jufka, barjak, ekser, pare, ćufte, komšija, sokak, papuče, zanat, dugme, šegrt, ortakluk, mušterija, kapara, dućan.
Estuve esperando este vidio Sanda muchisimas gracias.. saludos
De nada, saludos 🙂
Same language, different dialects. If some assholes want to nitpick on a couple of different words and call Serbian /Croatian separate languages, then British and American English should be separate languages too.
They even more different than serbian and croatian.
I am from Serbia and my parents learned Russian in school as their main foreign language... In Serbia during the time of Yugoslavia people didn't speak english they mainly took Russian classes in school...
Thank you so much for sharing! My grandma also learned Russian at school in Croatia, and only learned a few sentences in English later as an elderly woman...
The Croatian language is in relation to Serbian what Mexican is in relation to Spanish, or "American" in relation to ENGLISH...!
The Croatian language actually does not exist... It is the language of the Serbs who live in Croatia and whose language has become the official official language of the state of Croatia...! Understand: Croats have 2 dialects "Chakavian" and "Kaikavian" which do not understand each other - so they took the Serbian language (Appropriated the Serbian language and script) to be able to communicate with each other...
You and your mom are so lovely I hope to see you girls again in another videos. Greetings.
Thank you!! I am sure you'll see us again in another video. Pozdrav iz Hrvatske!
The Croatian language actually does not exist... It is the language of the Serbs who live in Croatia and whose language has become the official official language of the state of Croatia...! Understand: Croats have 2 dialects "Chakavian" and "Kaikavian" which do not understand each other - so they took the Serbian language (Appropriated the Serbian language and script) to be able to communicate with each other...!?
I loved the video!!!
Thank you so much for making this video. I'm Australian born and my parents are from Sombor in Serbia which is very close to Osijek in Croatia. I found that my parents and I say some things as you would in Croatia, such as we would usually say "Ja ću ići..." instead of "Ja ću da idem..." (although, I think which one we'd use would depend on the context). I also had a thrill learning the word for carrot is completely different. I've always struggled with getting my head around are Croatian and Serbian really different languages, since they are as high as 97% intelligible from one another, and wondered if they really just different dialects. I think it's great for us to embrace these differences and similarities and our individual national identities through language. ❤️
The Croatian language is in relation to Serbian what Mexican is in relation to Spanish, or "American" in relation to ENGLISH...!
The Croatian language actually does not exist... It is the language of the Serbs who live in Croatia and whose language has become the official official language of the state of Croatia...! Understand: Croats have 2 dialects "Chakavian" and "Kaikavian" which do not understand each other - so they took the Serbian language (Appropriated the Serbian language and script) to be able to communicate with each other...
Politics is the reason. Nationalistic poltics mostly.
@@milosmilosic2632
Wooow pa ti si stvarno ozbiljno bolestan čoveče ...
😁😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
Srpski, hrvatski, bosanski i crnogorski su jedan isti jezik. Dakle nisu svi srpski ni hrvatski itd, vec prosto Jedan jezik. A svako nek zove onaj jezik kojim prica onako kako zeli. Toliko je jednostavno a pobismo se evo vise puta bez potrebe
Malo šale za početak, ja ne bih rekla "prosto" već "jednostavno" haha 😃 Ali definitivno se slažem s ovime što si rekao/rekla za ovo drugo, zdrava rasprava je dobra sve dok svi imaju poštovanje i mir jedni prema drugima 😃
The Croatian language actually does not exist... It is the language of the Serbs who live in Croatia and whose language has become the official official language of the state of Croatia...! Understand: Croats have 2 dialects "Chakavian" and "Kaikavian" which do not understand each other - so they took the Serbian language (Appropriated the Serbian language and script) to be able to communicate with each other...!?
Razlike su ništa u odnosu na sličnosti 😁
To be honest, the only Croatian word I didn't know was marelica! I never heard it! Thanks for the video :)
It's maybe an unimportant or shallow thing to say but your nose had me hypnotized. You have the most beautiful nose ever. Greetings.
I'm an Indian, can you explain all the languages that are related to Croatian.
May God bless your mom. I lost mine 5 months back. A mother is the biggest gift of God to this world.
xxx xxx
so im not a pro
but bosnian croatian serbian and montenegrin are very similar
they have some words diffrent but when we talk or have conversations we understand eachother
basically like weekend in croatian is tjedan, in serbian is nedelja and in bosnian is sedmica
but montenegrin is like serbian i guess so yeah
we have different accents but its all good
This is all four (Serbian, Croatian, Bosnian and Montenegrian) are the same language. This mother is nazi or ustasa, because she denies that fact like Ustasa and nazi-croats like.
@@sashoksashok8108 Don't be hateful and disrespectful. There's always a decent way of speaking and expressing yourself but not like this.
The Croatian language actually does not exist... It is the language of the Serbs who live in Croatia and whose language has become the official official language of the state of Croatia...! Understand: Croats have 2 dialects "Chakavian" and "Kaikavian" which do not understand each other - so they took the Serbian language (Appropriated the Serbian language and script) to be able to communicate with each other...!
Same language different name. Same goes for Bosnian and Montenegrin.
The Croatian language actually does not exist... It is the language of the Serbs who live in Croatia and whose language has become the official official language of the state of Croatia...! Understand: Croats have 2 dialects "Chakavian" and "Kaikavian" which do not understand each other - so they took the Serbian language (Appropriated the Serbian language and script) to be able to communicate with each other...
@@milosmilosic2632 Serbian is based on Stokavian dialect. It’s a dialect spoken by Serbs, Croats and Bosnians. What is a language is an interesting debate. There’s a dialect continuum in South Slavic languages all the way from South Austria to the Black Sea coast. If language was based purely on linguistic similarity between dialects you would have three distinct languages in Western South Slavic. It would be Kajkavian, Cakavian and Stokavian. Torlakian spoken in South Serbia would be Eastern South Slavic. But definition of a language is more complicated and there are other non linguistic factors.
All nations are imagined communities. Slovenian and Kajkavian speaking people belong to different communities although linguistically they are one grouping of similar dialects. Torlakian speaking people identify as Serbs, Macedonians or Bulgarians despite speaking the same dialect.
Is the glass half full or half empty?
Is her poetry in croatian or English. I only know maybe 3o 40 words and what they mean croatian does her poetry rhyme what kinda poetry ?
Hmm I think most serbs know mrkva, kino, otok, marelica, kruh - same as most croatians know serbian words - both know each other languages quite well - at least that's my experience, because both nations are quite knowledgeable about their languages.
We understand all those words regardless if we use them or not in everydays life. She is mixing dialects with language. Witch is something totally different. In Serbia alone we have 58 dialects. And I don't understand some words from different parts of the Serbia.
even if someone dont know what these words means, no one can call them two languages based on few different words
The Croatian language actually does not exist... It is the language of the Serbs who live in Croatia and whose language has become the official official language of the state of Croatia...! Understand: Croats have 2 dialects "Chakavian" and "Kaikavian" which do not understand each other - so they took the Serbian language (Appropriated the Serbian language and script) to be able to communicate with each other...
In my mother tongue - The Czech republic - we say milk - mleko 😀 the same pronunciation as Serbian, we also say mliko in more everyday people talk, informal 😁
That's so much fun! I love your language. When I went to Czech republic and later to Poland, I was always able to communicate a bit because of the same language roots. 🙂
@@CroatianExperiencewithSanda yeah, definitely - although I understand Croatian much more than Polish language, Croatian (or Serbian, does not matter) is much closer to our Czech language, many words - like mleko for example, are exactly the same
@@RobinPM100 i live in Slavonia(croatia) , and when i was a kid i remeber that lot of older People where say ing for Milk - mliko.
In croatian language its mlijeko, but in normal talk a lot of ppl say mliko like u, crazy 😂😂
@@RobinPM100 When I hear Czech or Slovakian people speak, from all other Slavic languages and how they sound, those two sound most similar to my native Serbian (Croatian, Montenegrian, Bosnian). Czech and Slovakian sound to me even closer then Macedonian, although I know some Macedonian because I learned it. Polish language on the other hand, sounds most distant to me from all Slavic languages.
12:14 Completely wrong. I. Serbian and I say "Ići ću" without ja. Present, future and past tenses are the same. Da+present constructions are more present in serbian, but not in forming a future tense. It's used as a second verb in a sentence which completes the action of the first verb. For example: Želim da odem which means I want to go.
Of course we use "Ja ću doći" in Serbian too.
"Aj, ja ću doći, oko pola noći, da kafu popijem" :)
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Sanda.... No tendras este video en español o al menos subtitulado? Te lo pregunta alguien que tiene unos añitos investigando sobre ustedes los balcanicos, para un proyecto literario... Saludos desde Caracas....
Već po tome kojim si komentarima dala srce a koje izignorisala, pitam se da li uopšte gledati ovaj video do kraja (da, mi koristimo infinitiv isto, nisam napisao da li da gledam video do kraja, a pišem začudićeš se srpskom varijantom). Bitan deo 》》》 Lingvistički je u pitanju jedan jezik, policentrični, sa više dijalekata, a on se upravo iz političkih razloga različito naziva u različitim državama na Balkanu. Takođe više je sličnosti između štokavskog narečja kojim govori Hrvat u Slavoniji i štokavskog narečja kojim govorim ja iz Beograda, dakle više je sličnosti u govoru tog Hrvata i Srbina nego tog Hrvata iz Slavonije sa onim iz recimo Varaždina koji priča kajkavski... Ipak i kajkavski i štokavski ćete nazvati hrvatskim, a jedva da će se razumeti, ali je jako bitno ukazati na sve razlike sa srpskim i zatim ih nazvati različitim jezicima? :) Različite smo nacije, jezik je isti baš kao i između pomenutih Australijanaca i Britanaca. Uprkos insistiranju hrvatskih nacionalista na razlikama i sumanutim pokušajima da hrvatsku varijantu jezika unakaze do mere neprepoznatljivosti i samim Hrvatima, to će uvek biti jedan isti, jedinstveni i nedeljevi srpskohrvatski ili hrvatskosrpski jezik. Pozdrav i svako dobro.
Sve je u redu s tvojim komentarom, osim predzadnje rečenice. Čini mi se nepravedno napasti "sumanute pokušaje hrvatskih nacionalista" bez da se barem spomenu i drugi susjedni nacionalisti. Jasno je kroz čitavu povijest da su jezik i religija uvijek bili korišteni kao politički alati, iako su njihove primarne funkcije drugačije.😀
@@CroatianExperiencewithSanda Odgledao sam video do kraja ☺Znaš koja je razlika između hrvatskih i srpskih nacionalista kad je ova tema u pitanju? Hrvatski kažu dva su različita jezika, hrvatski i srpski.. Srpski nacionalisti kažu jedan je isti jezik, sprski 😊 Bliže istini su ovi drugi 😆 samo treba dodati - ili hrvatski, na kraju rečenice, kako se jezik zvanično i nazivao u hrvatskim školama. Dakle lingvistički je jedan jezik, srpski ili hrvatski. Izvini na malo žustrijem komentaru video je ispao ok, problem je u meni što nisam imao strpljenja da ga odgledam do kraja.. Pozdrav!
@@novak83bg >> ukazati na sve razlike sa srpskim i zatim ih nazvati različitim jezicima?
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Znam da ce ovo zvucati pomalo nacionalisticki - iako nikada u zivotu nisam dao glas desno orijentiranim hrvatskim strankama - no jako je bitno ukazivati na razlike u jezicima, jer je u Srbiji kultura negiranja drugih nacija zapravo dio vaseg nacionalnog identiteta. Plemenite ideje o nekakvom pomirenju i zaboravljanju proslosti zvuce jako lijepo na prvi pogled, medjutim dok god vi ucite jednu povijest, a mi drugu, sve te plemenite ideje su zapravo guranje problema pod tepih, bas kao za vrijeme Jugoslavije. Eto, tako i tvoj komentar pokusava prodati nekakav mit kako Hrvati pokusavaju unakaziti svoj jezik do neprepoznatljivosti, a zapravo u 99% slucajeva hrvatski intelektualci samo naglasavaju bitnost postivanja nase kulturne bastine gdje se preporucuje koristenje rijeci cistog slavenskog ili hrvatskog pdrijetla. Pa tako dok vi koristite fudbal, mi kazemo nogomet, a ti sam procijeni koja rijec je slavenskih korijena. Dok vi korsitite razne turcizme, mi koristimo slavenske varijante - sto nas povezuje s nasom slavenskom kulturnom bastinom, a ujedno i zvuci po mom misljenu, puno lijepse. Dakle, ne radi se o unakazivanju jezika samo kako bi se sto vise razlikovali od vas, nego o jacanju slavenskih korijena u nasem jeziku, jer je to dio nase kulture.
>> Hrvatski kažu dva su različita jezika, hrvatski i srpski.. Srpski nacionalisti kažu jedan je isti jezik, sprski 😊 Bliže istini su ovi drugi 😆
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I to je jedan od glavnih razloga zasto ja tesko vidim da ce biti nekakvog pravog pomirenja medju nasa dva naroda, jer kao sto sam rekao, kod vas je negiranje drugih nacija i kultura tako duboko uronjeno u nacionalni identitet da vi to radite cak i nesvjesno. Naime, ne razumijem zasto se klasifikacija gdje se podijela vrsi po principu "vama vase, a nama nase" smatra nacionalistickom? Takva klasifickacija ne negira postojanje srpskog jezika i srpske kulturne bastine, jer mi nigdje ne tvrdimo da srpski jezik ne postoji. S druge strane, klasifikacija Hrvatske varijante srpsko-hrvatskog kao iskljucivo srpski jezik, gdje eto ti sad kazes kako je to blize istini, negira postojanje tisucljetne hrvatske kulturne bastine. I to vi tako, bez isprike, stalno. I znam ja sada da ce se javiti neki pametnjakovic i reci mi sta politiziram, medjutim upravo je kultura izbjegavanja suocavanja sa srpskim mitovima dovela do tako velikog raskola. Kakti, treba sutjeti i praviti se kako problemi ne postoje - sve pod tepih - i onda moze da se svi lijepo izljubimo pa da opet budemo braca, dok vi ucite svoju djecu laznu povijest i punite im glavu nacionalistickim glupostima...
@@redknight4805 Ето и ја сам један од српских националиста У говору избегавам речи које су заступљеније у хрватској. Свиђа ми се настојање Хрвата да створе некакав свој језик. Надам се да ће за неопходни број деценија то заиста и бити два потпуно различита језика. Да хрвати инсистирају на очувању словенског језика је најглупље нешто што сам
прочитао. А Немцима се диве и остварују њихове циљеве. Кад Хрвати оптужују Србе за национализам то је врхунски цинизам.
Kao Hrvat,potpisujem svaku tvoju riječ,brate,pozdrav iz Canade
Stop it! People from Slavonia (region in croatia) better understand people from Vojvodina (region in serbia) than somebody from Korčula or Istria who speak half italian.
The Croatian language is in relation to Serbian what Mexican is in relation to Spanish, or "American" in relation to ENGLISH...!
With the tenses, "Ja cu da idem" example and others like it are more used in the south of Serbia and Central Serbia, but "Ja cu ici" or the continuative tenses are used more in north parts of the country and the capital of Belgrade.
Its kinda the same sentence just worded differently, the best examples of Serbian and Croatian language differences are like "Grah and Pasulj" which mean the same thing(beans), just like in British and American English you have "Bins and Trashcans" (people usually understand most if not all words But keep in mind that words develop in different parts of the country that people from other parts dont understand, just like boston or kali slang develops.
Its nice that we can all share conversations without having a headache. Love to all of our neighbours
To je samo dokaz da ste vi govorili do prije 150 godina bugarski sa 5 padeza, pogotov na jugu
@@kategoried7501 pa srbijanski pasulj je isto što i tovarski fažol od grčkog fasuli koje je ušlo u turski i talijanski pa u naš jezik
I've got a stupid question for you.. What does the IC mean at the end of a surname? For example I've met a girl here in Peru whose last name is Brozovic.. I'm curious to know.. Cheers
IC suffix literally means 'little one'. It's a diminutive...
As What Now commented, IĆ is a diminutive suffix. But that doesn't really apply for surnames. These are just the typical names, just like in Russian it is common that surnames end in SKI, SKA, OV, OVNA etc. Or in Spanish surnames end in EZ, Lopez, Gomez...
@@CroatianExperiencewithSanda Suffix SKI, SKA means something like
belonging to. Ski is of male, Ska is of female.
OV, OVNA suffix means of someone. Sandaov/Sandaovna...
Linguistically speaking, it’s one polycentric language. The example of US vs British English is a good one. Or German spoken in Germany vs Austrian or Swiss German. Or Portuguese spoken in Brazil vs Portuguese spoken in Portugal. Furthermore, the differences in vocabulary are mostly known and understood by everyone. Football in Serbian is “fudbal”, which is a loan word from English. Football in Croatian is “nogomet”. “Noga” means leg in both Croatian and Serbian and -met describes an activity in both Croatian or Serbian. In other words, Nogomet is descriptive in both Serbian and Croatian: a game played with your legs. Both Serbian and Croatian speakers know both variants, hence when you have a Croatian and Serbian speaker talking about football, with one asking the other “did you watch last night’s football?” - “Jesi li gledao fudbal sinoć?”, the other replies with “of course, I love football!” - “Naravno, obožavam nogomet!” On the other hand, the sport of Handball is called “rukomet” in both Serbian and Croatian. “Ruka” means hand in both Croatian and Serbian, so the word “rukomet’’ follows the same exact descriptive principles as does “nogomet”, but is this time used by both. The example od “mrkva” vs “šargarepa” (carrot) is another good example. As someone from Bosnia, I use the word “mrkva”, but I don’t register when someone says “šargarepa”, I immediately understand it as if they had said “mrkva”. Another difference in vocabulary is regarding history. The word for history in Croatian is “povijest”, while in Serbian it’s “istorija”. I use both quite interchangeably as someone from Bosnia, as do many novelists. My point is that the differences in vocabulary and grammar are so minute that they’re often quite interchangeable and I often don’t know which is which. I would say that the biggest difference between the linguistic variants in terms of vocabulary are the Croatian months. The months in Croatian are protoslavic and descriptive (siječanj, veljača, ožujak, travanj etc), while the months in Serbian are from the Gregorian calendar (januar, februar, mart, april etc). From my experience, the only differences in vocabulary that form a barrier are the Croatian months, which are not understood by Serbian speakers, while Croatian speakers understand the Serbian months because they’re the same in English and most other languages. This is usually circumvented by the fact that Croatian speakers, when speaking with Serbian speakers number the months. They don’t say “siječanj” for January, they say “prvi mjesec” - the first month. In the video you mentioned the differences between the word island. In Croatian it’s “otok”, while in Serbian it’s “ostrvo”. The difference is interchangeable, hence Serbian speakers who vacation on Croatian islands use the Croatian word “otok” instead of the Serbian word “ostrvo”, when speaking about Croatian islands. When I speak about, let’s say, Greek islands, I use the word “ostrvo”, but when I talk about Croatian islands I always say “otoci”. Here’s another funny example: the word for house in Serbian is “kuća”. The word for house in Croatian is “Dom”. The word for housewife in Serbian is “domaćica”. The word for housewife in Croatian is “kućanica”. A complete inversion. All of this is why instead of saying Croatian or Serbian languages, I prefer to use the terms Western and Eastern variants of Serbo-Croatian, as much as it might not be politically correct. As far as the Latin and Cyrillic alphabets are concerned, both languages are standardised in a way so that they can both be written using both alphabets. They were standardised in the 19th century as one language by Croat, Ljudevit Gaj and Serb, Vuk Karadžić. Each Latin letter has it’s equivalent in the Cyrillic alphabet, so technically speaking, Cyrillic is equally a Croatian alphabet as is Latin. It’s just not used in Croatia, which is completely fine, but it’s technically incorrect to say that Latin is Croatian and Cyrillic is Serbian. Just as the letters y and x don’t exist in both the Serbian and Croatian Latin alphabets, which is the exact same alphabet with the exact same letters that represent the exact same sounds, the Russian or Bulgarian or Ukrainian Cyrillic alphabets contain letters that don’t have equivalent sounds in Serbian or Croatian. In other words, it’s impossible to write many Croatian words in the Russian Cyrillic alphabet because some letters just aren’t compatible with the language and it’s sounds. On the other hand, Croatian can be written in the Serbo-Croatian Cyrillic alphabet because the language has been standardised for the Cyrillic alphabet just as it has been for the Latin alphabet. In other words, our language - call it what you want - is the only language in Europe that has been standardised for two different alphabets, which is pretty neat.
nationalism and politics.... its same in bosnia and montenegro. maybe in the future theres gonna be herzegovian or dalmatian language
@@sulejmansulejmanovsulejman8636 I agree for politics in B&H and Montengro! But croatian and serbian are not just because of politics
It is not the best comparison since within Portugal we do not have dialects however In Brasil there are a lot. As a Portuguese living in The NEtherlands and never ever have seen all the Brasilians sopas on the Portuguese television I was not exposed to some Brasilian dialects. Which means that I have HUAGE problems understanding anything some brasilians say while a friend of mine from São Paulo was easy to understand.
So I get from Serb Croats friends that a very good comparsion is between standard Dutch in NL vs standard Dutch in Belgian which we mostly understand. Belgians do have more French words (a lot I think) which sometimes got a Germanic (Flemish) variant that is completely meaningless to us. But in general I think Serbian and Croatian is more like that.
In Croatian house is also kuća, and dom means home. Word usage is similar to English:
housewife = kućanica (in croatian you can also use domaćica, but meaning of domaćica is more like someone who has guests, who hosts guests, something like hostess)
I'm going home = idem doma
I'm at home = doma sam
homeland = domovina
It is so good to see both, you and your mother, smiling together. Love is in the air. GOD bless you both. Pozdravi!
Hvala!!! Pozdravi!😀
pozdrav, without i😉
@@TheArtsHunter POZDRAV is singular and POZDRAVI is plural. POZDRAV! = greeting; POZDRAVI = greetings.
The Croatian language is in relation to Serbian what Mexican is in relation to Spanish, or "American" in relation to ENGLISH...!
Me aclararias algo porque? cuando voy al gogle y pongo una palabra croata me corrige y lo reconoce como serbo croata es el mismo idioma? O son ramas del latin asi como
El español y portugues no son iguales nada pero tienes parecidos y en escritura se reconocen algunas cosas ; o es el mismo idioma pero serbo es el croata viejo
Son más parecidos que español y portugués. Las diferencias en el idioma que se habla en Croacia, Serbia, Bosnia y Herzegovina, Montenegro, son también parecidas a las diferencias entre castellano de España o de los países de América Latina, Argentina, México, Colombia, y más. Todos se entienden cuando hablan, pero hay palabras y expresiones diferentes, así como la pronunciación.
Entonces no hay problema con usar en el traductor siempre serbocroata ya que no me sale nunca croata solo aunq si es vedad hay oraciones que traducidas no es lo mismo como si escribiera en un orden español y me traduce en otro ingles
El traductor de Google no sirve de mucho cuando se trata de idioma croata. Croata tiene demasiadas opciones, terminaciones, casos, riqueza de verbos así que creo que es demasiado para los algoritmos.
i am an American who just returned from a trip to Serbia. I have now traveled all over eastern Europe and find some similarties in the slavic languages I have encountered with words like dobro, most and ulitsa. i wonder how similar the languages are. Can a Polish speaker understand a Russian or Bulgarian etc...
The Croatian language actually does not exist... It is the language of the Serbs who live in Croatia and whose language has become the official official language of the state of Croatia...! Understand: Croats have 2 dialects "Chakavian" and "Kaikavian" which do not understand each other - so they took the Serbian language (Appropriated the Serbian language and script) to be able to communicate with each other...
Here in Serbia, we just called our Language as Serbian. In school, it was pronounced SerboCroatian. Nobody had issues about that.
How do Croats and Serbs distinguish each other? Can they do it right away within a few seconds?
@@achatcueilleur5746 we can, as any other ethnic group, btw we understand eachother 100 %. And, in Croatia, for instance you can find diversity in language depending on geography, like this: dalmatians speaks different from Zagreb, slavonia speaks different from Zagreb , but they havr similarities with people across thr border, in Vojvodina. Istrians have straight pure pronounce, to differ from dalmatia, zagorje and slavonia. I suppose it is the same differencies across the globe.
The Croatian language is in relation to Serbian what Mexican is in relation to Spanish, or "American" in relation to ENGLISH...!
The Croatian language actually does not exist... It is the language of the Serbs who live in Croatia and whose language has become the official official language of the state of Croatia...! Understand: Croats have 2 dialects "Chakavian" and "Kaikavian" which do not understand each other - so they took the Serbian language (Appropriated the Serbian language and script) to be able to communicate with each other...
@@colloidalsilverwater15ppm88 we do not talk different 95 % of words are same i am from dalmatia and i perfectly understand someone from zagreb or osijek....
I'm from Romania and I've learned Croatian & Serbian 13 years ago because the history of Yugoslavia was fascinating. I don't want to stir the RAT by it's tail, but I love both Croatian and Serbian as one language with 3 dialects ( including Bosnian). Romanian language also has 3 dialects, but I understand the political reason for it. Mir je bolji od rata. Hvala vam. (Sorry for my rusty Croatian)
Hi, welcome to my channel and thanks for your comment! I see you understand the situation around here with your RAT i MIR examples! 😂😀😂 Your rusty Croatian is GREAT 🙁 Lijep pozdrav!
Well, croatian itself has 3 more main dialects with their subdialects and all the other local diealects. 🤷♂️
@@emanuel3345 Yes, Serbian has 5 main dialects, some of which are shared with Croatian. It's better to say that Serbian and Croatian are two standardized varieties of the pluricentric language (like Austrian, Swiss and German). Поздрав! Pozdrav! 🇭🇷🇷🇸
@@CroatianExperiencewithSanda Sorry for my delayed response. Yes, I know a lot about Former Yugoslavia, especially about Hrvatska, Srbija, Bosna i Crna Gora. Also about the language (I still watch movies trying to not forget the language). The history of this region is fascinating and also very tragic. Romania was also divided in 3 ( and now in 2 with Rep. Moldova) but we still think about ourselves as a nation (this is why is strange for me, even if we count in the religion aspect of Hrvatska, Srbija i Bosna ). Mir je poželjan.Mir je univerzalni jezik. Hvala.
@AmeriKa1050 I guess you have no idea about the true history. This is the reason for people killing and hating each other. If your mother is Croat, your father is Serb and Grandmother a Bosniak who do you kill first ?! No comment please....
How do Croats and Serbs distinguish each other? Can they do it right away within a few seconds?
I´m surprised to learn that Russian wasn´t so popular in the Yugoslav era there in Croatia. Was it also a thing in Croatia and maybe in Serbia the russian language was more popular? Cheers!
The Croatian language is in relation to Serbian what Mexican is in relation to Spanish, or "American" in relation to ENGLISH...!!
"ja ću da idem"? That must be some dialect 🤔 because officially we also say ja ću ići
The Croatian language is in relation to Serbian what Mexican is in relation to Spanish, or "American" in relation to ENGLISH...!!
Sanda, muy interesante. El vídeo me ha recordado al catalán y el valenciano por ejemplo. Muy interesante tu propuesta de una nueva colaboración de tu mamá explicando las diferencias de la vida en la Yugoslavia socialista con la actual Croacia. Me ha gustado mucho el vídeo y me alegro mucho de que tu mamá esté mejor y de nuevo en casa!
Si Jaume, las diferencias en el idioma que se habla en Croacia, Serbia, Bosnia y Herzegovina, Montenegro, son también parecidas a las diferencias entre castellano de España o de los países de América Latina, Argentina, México, Colombia, y más. Todos se entienden cuando hablan, pero hay palabras y expresiones diferentes, así como la pronunciación. ¡Me alegra que te ha gustado el video! ¡Me encantará hacer otro video sobre Yugoslavia - Croacia con mi mama, nos divertimos haciendo ese! ¡Te mando un saludo!
Com a estudiant de filologia catalana, jo concorde amb el teu missatge respecte de la diferència entre català i valencià. En el nostre cas, els catalans i valencians (i els habitants de les Illes Balears) compartim grafia, normes ortogràfiques, accentuació, un 95% de vocabulari de tot el que existix en un diccionari. No hi ha hagut mai cap problema de comprensió. Quan passarà este missatge pel traductor, tu voràs que posarà 'missatge traduït del català'. No obstant això, tot el missatge està escrit d'acord amb les regles del valencià, que són les mateixes regles del català. Així que mai poden ser considerats dos idiomes diferents. És igual que l'anglés britànic i anglés americà.
The Croatian language is in relation to Serbian what Mexican is in relation to Spanish, or "American" in relation to ENGLISH...!!
Son tan diferentes como español europeo y español latam. Es el misma palabra
How about a video about differences between Serbs, Croatians, Bosnians, Montenegrins.
Same or different nations ? Why do they hate each other ?
I'm really not interested in the official version, but what ordinary people think and feel about this problem. How was it in Yugoslavia, how is it now ?
I'm from Romania and I cannot understand this matter. Language is almost identical, after all. So, it normally should be one single nation with 3 different religions. Still, there are 4 nations...
Simple my Romanian friend. Politics and Religion and foreign interventions a lot of them. Oh and back stabbing that to .
@Croatian Experience with Sanda>
I think the best way to really present differences between Serbian and Croatian would be a live conversation with a Serbian.
I'm a Serbian tutor, and I offer you to do a video with me.
That way, people could see how much we understand each other if you spoke only Croatian and I only Serbian :)
The Croatian language is in relation to Serbian what Mexican is in relation to Spanish, or "American" in relation to ENGLISH...!!
Ni ja nisam zvanični stručnjak u oblasti lingvistike, ali sam veliki ljubitelj različitih jezika i kultura, pa se, pored učenja stranih jezika, često bavim izučavanjem dijelekata i narečja. Kako bi bilo jasnije koji je moj maternji jezik, navešću da sam rođena u SFRJ (Jugoslavija) 70-tih godina prošlog veka. Kako sam živela na teritoriji današnje Srbije, u okviru školskog programa učila sam srpskohrvatski jezik. Ovaj se jezik smatrao i službenim jezikom države, a ravnopravno su bila u upotrebi dva pisma, ćirilica i latinica. Sam školski program, iako je većina udžbenika bila štampana na ekavici (korišćenoj u tadašnjoj republici Srbiji), u okviru predmeta srpskohrvatskog jezika sadržao je izučavanje svih dijalekata i narečja koji su bili u upotrebi na teritoriji Jugoslavije. Ovo je uključivalo i značajna književna dela autora današnjih različitih država u "regionu". Ono što bih posebno istakla, a u vezi je sa pitanjem šta se smatra mojim maternjim jezikom, odgovoriće istovremeno i na pitanje kakve su razlike između aktuelnih jezika u državama nastalim raspadom SFRJ. Dakle, iako sam rođena u centralnoj Srbiji, potičem iz južnih krajeva Srbije gde se "u narodu" koristi (ili je bar dugo odolevao iskorenjavanju) govor potpuno drugačije gramatičke strukture u odnosu na službeni jezik, bilo da govorimo o srpsko-hrvatskom, hrvatsko-srpskom ili o današnjim zvaničnim jezicima Srbije, Hrvatske, BiH i Crne gore. U ove četiri navedene države, kada je reč o službenim jezicima, mogu zaključiti da postoje daleko manje, gotovo neznatne razlike u odnosu na suštinske razlike između službenih jezika i pojedinih dijalekata unutar svake od država. Kako srodstvo jezika određuje gramatička osnova, a ne terminologija (što je česta zabluda), mislim da sam naziv jezika nema ništa više od političke uloge. Jezik je živa stvar, menja se i prilagođava, prihvata uticaje i širi uticaje. Ono što je ozbiljniji problem za sve nas koji nalazimo lepotu u svakom jeziku je opasnost od umiranja mnogih dragocenih oblika verbalne komunikacije koji nemaju status priznatog jezika. To je blago koje svet potpuno zanemaruje.
Uzgred, prokomentarisala bih kratko segment videa koji prikazuje različite oblike istovetnih rečenica na hrvatskom i srpskom jeziku. Verujem da Vaši zaključci proizilaze iz iskustva u neformalnoj komunikaciji sa osobama koje koriste sprski jezik, međutim, gramatika ovog jezika je definisana nešto drugačije. Npr. rečenica "Ja ću ići...", pravilno bi bila iskazana u srpskom jeziku na dva načina: "Ja ću ići... " i "Ići ću...". Oblik "Ja ću da idem..." je neispravan i potpuno nepoželjan, ali, na žalost, previše ukorenjen u redovnoj neformalnoj komunikaciji. Da bi zlo bilo veće, srozavanjem svih vrednosti današnjeg društva u Srbiji, upotreba žargona, gramatički nekorektnih i neispravno formulisanih rečenica je postao sastavni deo javnog života, a posebno se oslikava u usmenom i pisanom izražavanju predstavnika države, te i ne čudi da se stiče utisak da su to prihvaćena jezička pravila.
Kada su u pitanju pisma, dodala bih lični utisak u vezi sa upotrebom ćirilice, kao nametnutog isključivog služenog pisma Srbije. Koliko god da politički nacionalizam pokušava da nametne besmislena pravila, latinično pismo je bilo i ostalo najčešće upotrebljavano pismo u Srbiji. Ćirilica se koristi samo u krajnjoj nuždi, isključivo u pojedinim slučajevima kada izvesne institucije ne priznaju dokument izrađen na latiničnom pismu. Ova besmislica ne može prirodno zaživeti u narodu, bez neke posebne zakonske prinude. U nekom dužem vremenskom rasponu i ovo nije nemoguće, jer je na isi način ijekavica "ugušena" u Srbiji, iako je korišćena na široj teritoriji današnje države.
Konačno, ako ste rođeni negde na Balkanu i uspeli ste da rastumačite ovo što sam napisala, nije li potpuno nevažno kako ćemo taj jezik nasloviti?
Одличан коментар. Jа се само годину дана бавим српским jезиком, али ми се више и више свиђа, како више и више разумем. Сваки пут се радуjем, када видим да неко пише коректно, уз употребу знакова, а не ошишаном. Jа претпостављам да пишем ћирилицом, jер jе кул, неголи латиницом. Латиницу знаjу сви, а ћирилицу не. :)
Čoveče, sad vi meni otkrivate da ja kao Srpkinja koristim "ja ću da idem" a ja koristim "ja ću ići" potpuno ravnopravno, čak češće. Svaka čast na (samouverenom i bez zadrške) širenju dezinformacija ljudima koji nemaju pojma o našim jezicima. Takođe, da imate pojma, znale biste da je "ja ću da idem" nepreporučljiva varijanta, iako je prihvatljiva gramatički, "ja ću ići" je pravilnija u književnom srpskom.
Srbi kažu radiću, zvaću, imaću ... Hrvati radit ću, zvat ću, imat ću ...
Znaci da ti hrvatski ide dobro...
Kako i sama kažeš, koristiš oba ravnopravno. Mi koristimo samo formu s infinitivom. Forma sa "da + particip prezent" ili kako ju mi s ljubavlju zovemo, "dakanje" većini Hrvata zvuči čudno i pogrešno.
@@alexhorvath9277 "radit ću" je više pravilo pisanja, u izgovoru je "radiću", slično kako i ne pišemo hrvacka, al ise "ts" tako čuje.
@@GrgoPetrov U hrvatskom se ili čuje "t" ili je stanka ... ne izgovaramo kao srbi spojeno ...
Hola, oie porque ya no haces videos en español?
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U komentarima je dosta nerazumijevanja kakva je bila situacija u ex YU, vidim da se mnogi čude kako to da nije bila ista situacija u školama u Hrvatskoj i u Srbiji. Vrlo jednostavno: SFRJ je, kako joj i sam naziv kaže, bila složena (federalna) država, a školstvo (obrazovanje) bilo je u nadležnosti republika, a ne federacije. To znači da je svaka republika (federalna jedinica) imala svoj sustav školstva i svoj program, a ti programi nisu bili isti.
1) NAZIV JEZIKA: U SR Hrvatskoj je službeni naziv jezika (tako je pisalo u svim dokumentima, uključujući i republički Ustav) bio "hrvatski ili srpski jezik / hrvatski književni jezik". Tako je pisalo i u školskim svjedodžbama. Međutim, nitko ga tako nije zvao, svi smo ga i u vrijeme Jugoslavije zvali samo i jedino hrvatski jezik. Koliko se sjećam, u ondašnjim SR Bosni i Hercegovini, Crnoj Gori i Srbiji službeni naziv jezika bio je "srpskohrvatski", iako su ga u Srbiji pojednostavljeno zvali samo srpski. Za BiH i Crnu Goru ne znam.
2) ISTI ILI RAZLIČITI JEZICI?: Iskreno, mi smo i u tadašnjoj SR Hrvatskoj smatrali da to nije isti jezik, nego dva vrlo slična, ali ipak različita jezika. U svim dokumentima koje je izdavala SFRJ (dakle, federacija, ne republike), sve je pisalo na 4 jezika - srpskom ("istočna varijanta", kako se tada govorilo), hrvatskom ("zapadna varijanta"), slovenskom i makedonskom. Tko ne vjeruje, neka uzme, recimo, putovnicu / pasoš bivše države, ili neki takav dokument (ne osobnu iskaznicu jer su njih izdavale republike i jako su se razlikovale među sobom), ili novčanicu dinara iz tih vremena, pa se i sam može uvjeriti.
Činjenica je da su se hrvatski i srpski jezik sve do sredine 19. stoljeća razvijali zasebno, a da pokušaji njihovog ujednačavanja u dvjema Jugoslavijama u praksi nisu dali rezultata. Naprotiv, postali su izvor frustracija i nacionalizma. Činjenica je i da danas hrvatski i srpski imaju svaki svoj rječnik, pravopis i gramatiku, što su osnovni dokumenti svakog jezika. Činjenica je i da je Hrvatska ulaskom u EU unijela hrvatski jezik (ne "srpskohrvatski") u EU kao jedan od službenih jezika Unije i pod tim nazivom se pojavljuje u svim dokumentima i web stranicama EU. Ovime ne želim reći da se međusobno ne razumijemo - naprotiv, jako se dobro razumijemo - ali jako dobro se razumiju i Danci, Norvežani i Šveđani, kao i Česi i Slovaci, ili Indijci (hindu) i Pakistanci (urdu), pa nitko ne inzistira na tome da su to isti jezici...
3) LATINICA I ĆIRILICA: U školama u SR Hrvatskoj ćirilica se počinjala učiti u 3. razredu. Jedino što smo mi od ćirilice imali bilo je nekoliko tekstova godišnje u udžbeniku iz hrvatskog jezika. Svi ostali udžbenici bili su isključivo, samo i jedino na latinici, i tako je bilo do kraja i osnovne i srednje škole. Drugim riječima, ćirilica se u SR Hrvatskoj učila samo na način da se znaju osnove tog pisma.
U BiH, CG i Srbiji učila su se ravnopravno oba pisma. U BiH su svi udžbenici bili pisani i latinicom i ćirilicom, i to do te mjere da je jedna strana udžbenika bila na latinici, a druga na ćirilici. Za CG i Srbiju ne znam, pretpostavljam da je naglasak ipak bio na ćirilici.
U SR Hrvatskoj ništa od toga nije bio slučaj. Većina ljudi je ćirilicu znala na elementarnoj razini (pročitati je), pisati ju je znalo puno manje. U svakodnevnom i u javnom životu nije se koristila. Svi javni napisi su bili samo na latinici. Mislim da su izuzetak od tog pravila bile onih 11 tadašnjih općina sa srpskom većinom, među kojima su najveće bile Knin i Glina, gdje se ravnopravno koristila i latinica i ćirilica, ali tamo je i tada malo tko putovao. Ne isključujem mogućnost da je tako možda bilo i u još nekoliko ondašnjih općina u kojima su Srbi imali značajan udio u stanovništvu, poput Pakraca ili Petrinje, ali ne mogu to tvrditi jer se ni tamo baš nešto nije puno išlo.
4) STRANI JEZICI: I kod učenja stranih jezika bile su velike razlike među republikama. U Hrvatskoj (i Sloveniji ) dominantan strani jezik u školama i tada je bio engleski. Dosta su se učili i njemački i talijanski, a francuski i ruski vrlo malo. Negdje sredinom 80-ih objavljeno je da se u samo 10 posto škola u SR Hrvatskoj uče francuski i ruski, dok su njemački i talijanski bili prisutni u 40 posto osnovnih škola. Engleski se učio u znatno više škola (60+ posto). Međutim, trebate voditi računa da su se 80-ih godina, u pravilu, već učila dva strana jezika, pa je tu bilo raznih kombinacija (engleski i njemački, engleski i talijanski, engleski i francuski itd.). Obično su se strani jezici počinjali učiti u 4. razredu, iako je 80-ih već bilo pokušaja da se počnu učiti i ranije (od 2. razreda). Važno je reći da je učenje stranih jezika u SR Hrvatskoj bilo prilagođeno potrebama turizma, a tu ruski nije puno pomagao, pa se nije ni učio, pogotovo ne na obali.
Ne znam kako je bilo u ostalim republikama. Znam samo da su mi tada pričali da se u BiH dominantno učio ruski, osim u velikim gradovima (Sarajevo, Banja Luka,...), gdje se dosta predavao (i) engleski. U CG je navodno (opet zbog turizma, a i zbog povijesti) vladala podjela u školama na ruski u sjevernom dijelu i talijanski u južnom, primorskom dijelu. U Srbiji se, osim ruskog, dosta učio i francuski, pogotovo u Beogradu, gdje je u školama bilo i dosta engleskog jezika.
5) SLOVENSKI I MAKEDONSKI JEZIK: U školama u SR Hrvatskoj nisu se učili ni ni slovenski ni makedonski jezik. Smatralo se da su to "bliski" i "domaći" jezici, a ne strani, i da su razumljivi pa ih ne treba posebno ni učiti. Jedino je u udžbeniku iz hrvatskog jezika bio po jedan ili dva teksta na godinu na slovenskom i obično jedan na makedonskom, i tada su nastavnici u nekoliko minuta izlifrali osnove ta dva jezika. Ispod tih tekstova je obično bio i kratki rječnik s objašnjenjima slovenskih i makedonskih riječi koje nisu bile iste kao u hrvatskom. No, nijedan od ta dva jezika se nije posebno učio, čak ni kao izborni predmet.
S druge strane, u Sloveniji i Makedoniji se hrvatski ili srpski jezik (u stvarnosti, srpska ili "istočna" varijanta) obavezno učio u osnovnoj školi, ali kao poseban predmet (ostali predmeti su im bili na slovenskom, odnosno na makedonskom jeziku). To je bio i jedan od razloga što su Slovenci bili ljuti jer su smatrali da nije u redu da oni moraju učiti hrvatski ili srpski jezik, a mi ostali ne moramo učiti njihov jezik. Ne znam kakvo je bilo raspoloženje oko toga u Makedoniji.
Puno hvala na izuzetno kvalitetnom i detaljnom odgovoru! Srdačan pozdrav.
@@CroatianExperiencewithSanda Evo novčanice YU dinara iz 1980-ih. Na prednjoj strani piše Narodna banka Jugoslavije na srpskom (ćirilica), hrvatskom (latinica) i slovenskom (naziv je isti na oba jezika pa se pojavljuje samo jednom) te na makedonskom.
Na poleđini piše 20.000 dinara na srpskom (hiljada, ćirilica), hrvatskom (tisuća, latinica), slovenskom i makedonskom. I to pokazuje da je ex YU de facto smatrala srpski i hrvatski kao zasebne jezike, iako ih je formalno vodila kao jedan jezik s dvije različite standardne (književne) varijante.
www.njuskalo.hr/numizmatika-novcanice/jugoslavija-yugoslavia-20-000-dinara-1987-oglas-36660119
Isti jezik, naravno da je, ali svatko kome treba prijevod ovih nekoliko lokalizama moze i dalje tvrditi sto zeli, kiss
This is Montenegrin right?
@@alexmood6407 There are few very similar languages Croatian, Serbian, Bosnian, Montenegrian... All different countries but people understand each other.
Cist primer ti je kao kod nas u Srbiji. Imas Nis Pirot Leskovac i Vranje. Svi mi pricamo Srpski ali akcenti ubijaju.
E na toj ravni mozes i gledati Srbiju CG Hrvatsku i Bosnu i Hercegovinu, po pitanju akcenata na neke reci. Ovo ostalo se svi razumemo.
Interested, in Serbia I was learning Serbian-Croatian.....
On the Dutch television we had all kinds of programs for immigrants and news of their homecountries. So Yugoslavia was there too and it was called Servokroatisch which means Srpskohrvatski. So in NL the language was known as Serbocroatian.
@@jaysimoes3705 yeah and then politics gets involved and now from ex-Yugoslavia we have some like 6 languages… I mean really?!
So when we talk I start to remember some things....So one time two kids were counting in their fathers language, they said. They were a bit younger than me and lived in the neighbourhood here in my town in The Netherlands. They were counting to five and I rememeber she said (the sister of 8 and brother of 5) "peet". Which means five of course. So I was may be 12 and asked what language it was. She said "Croatian" which was meaningless to me.
But now I wonder...Because that came the day of 6 January. And these kids were at our doorstep singing songs about the Three Kings. Now in NL this is meaningless, but still my mother knew something about it. She gave them candy and asked them to come in, for good reasons. I remember this because first of all I thought "hey, these kids again!" and also because I pitied them a lot. It was almost dark, near 17.00 hours, super bright, lots of snow and at least -15 C. And from the look at them both really felt it was very cld outside. Such a strange scene really. Three Kings? Kids singing outside when it is bittercold and my mom giving them candy???
But now I wonder: is three kings someting Catholic or Orthodox? I am confused a bit. I would not expect Croats (and I am 100% sure they were) to somehow celebrate Orthodox celebrations or am I wrong?
@@jaysimoes3705 yeah man I am not sure I am familiar with three kings. Just to throw a curve ball at you my wife was Serbian born in Croatia. If she doesn’t tell you so by her accent and the food she cooks you would never guess she is Serbian. I mean one day people will talk about level of stupidity that happen in Ex-Yugoslavia. And now everyone again want to be part of EU… I am lost for words in that one.
15:16 "In Bosnia they sort of shorten things"
Finally somebody noticed.
I swear to God, when I watch videos about the languages online, it's almost as if nobody in the other ex-yugo countries ever visited Bosnia, because it's usually assumed that we say for example "dvadeset, trideset, ceterdeset, pedeset" but in reality when we talk to each other we say "dvajes', trijes', cetrest, pedest" sometimes "dvacet, tricet". Or when we say "ja cu ici", we just say "icu".
In medieval Bosnian, we used to say "kto" instead of "ko"("who"), and "hotio/hotla" (later "stjeo/stjela", "scjeo/scjela", "stio/stila") instead of "htjeo/htjela" ("hotje" = "hoce"), and both "halat" and "alat" instead of just "alat". And "tisuka" instead of "hiljadu", and in Herzegovina they said "tisut" and so on.
We love you, Nela and Sanda. God bless you. Greetings from Mexico.
Thank you so much Isaac! Greetings from Croatia!
Hey man, I am Croatian, Living in Mexico. If you GET a chance to visit San Lucas, in the Baja (explored by Franjo Konšćak)… there is a restaurant where you can get Croatian Eggs Benedict (Latitude 22) odnedavno by a Croatian Harley Davidson dude, who won the biggest fishing Competition in Mexico. With This Prize money, he made an amazing restaurant, pub with a view of Los Arcos.
Potato potato…it is the same language. There are drastic differences of course between the regions of the same country where the same language is officially spoken, which doesn‘t put this dialect as a separate language. Serbians from Bosnia/Croatia speak a bit different than the people from Serbia. We have a division which makes everything complicated: Serbians speak Serbian, Croatians speak Croatian…but this is the same language.
German in Switzerland (and even Lichtenstein and west Austria) is far way different than in the rest of Austria and Germany, but it is still German language.
The politics in Yugoslavia made here everything more complicated..
The Croatian language is in relation to Serbian what Mexican is in relation to Spanish, or "American" in relation to ENGLISH...!!
The Croatian language actually does not exist... It is the language of the Serbs who live in Croatia and whose language has become the official official language of the state of Croatia...! Understand: Croats have 2 dialects "Chakavian" and "Kaikavian" which do not understand each other - so they took the Serbian language (Appropriated the Serbian language and script) to be able to communicate with each other...
@@milosmilosic2632 The first Croatian grammar is from 1604. The first printed Croatian book is from 1483. The first literature in Croatian was written in 1501.
Because of our Catholic faith we were always one step before you.
It can only be arged that Serbs speak Croatian language.
Šargarepa is a Hungarian word that Serbs borrowed from Hungarians during long centuries when they have been living together in Vojvodina (part of Hungary until 1918). SÁRGA means yellow in Hungarian, RÉPA is the vegetable itself. Other than these small differences, Croatian and Serbian are dialects of the same language.
The Croatian language actually does not exist... It is the language of the Serbs who live in Croatia and whose language has become the official official language of the state of Croatia...! Understand: Croats have 2 dialects "Chakavian" and "Kaikavian" which do not understand each other - so they took the Serbian language (Appropriated the Serbian language and script) to be able to communicate with each other...!!
Well i speak Serbian. And well educeted persone here very well understands alot of theese corat words ( mrkva, vrhnje,stroj etc.) because some of theese are old words, and we know it but not use it so often :)
The Croatian language actually does not exist... It is the language of the Serbs who live in Croatia and whose language has become the official official language of the state of Croatia...! Understand: Croats have 2 dialects "Chakavian" and "Kaikavian" which do not understand each other - so they took the Serbian language (Appropriated the Serbian language and script) to be able to communicate with each other...
Russian is written only in Cyrillic alphabet, but Serbian also Latin.
The Croatian language is in relation to Serbian what Mexican is in relation to Spanish, or "American" in relation to ENGLISH...!!
Short answer : yes.
NO
@@kategoried7501 Its same language, because otherwise by your logic every different dialect in croatia, bosnia, serbia would be its own language
@@danielmedjedovic7068 there is so many turkish and greek words in serbian...obviously serbian is mix of croatian, greek and turkish....
@@Commentator488 nije isto 5 posto turskih i grckih rijeci i 70 posto...
@@Commentator488 a zasto se sad sramite turskih, engleskih i grckih rtijeci kad ih se ni vuk nije sramio dapace birao ih je ispred slavenskih jer mu zvuce muzevnije i grublje..i sad bi vi bili slaveni a vuk se grozio od istih, ma ne moze, prosla baba sa kolacima..mi kazemo slavenski tisuca, vi grcki hiljada i da vam nije palo na pamet krasti nam rijeci...
Actually, in serbian future is "ići ću". Better example would be some verbs ending in -ti (videću, radiću, tražiću).
"Da" + present is used in other constructions (znam da čitam, mogu da vidim, idem da se igram).
As a Serbian language learner yes they're literally the same language with some dialectel differences
You obviously learned nothing!
Govorim oba jezika. Zanimljivo, nikada ne zanam kada govorim hrvatski a kada srpski.
The Croatian language is in relation to Serbian what Mexican is in relation to Spanish, or "American" in relation to ENGLISH...!
Na srpskom se kaze ja ću ići. Nikad nisam cula da neko u Srbiji kaze ja ću da idem. A i ovo ja ću napraviti kazemo isto ili ja ću uraditi. Nisu dobri primeri.
Ja bukvalno prezirem ovo, tzv dadakanje - npr. Možete da dođete umesto možete doći itd. Taj oblik govora se sve više ustaljuje u svakodnevnom srpskom jeziku, ali nije deo standarda. Mnogi pogrešno misle da Srbi tako govore uopšte i potom prave ovakve videe. Književni jezik je jedno, a razgovorni, svakodnevni jezik je nažalost, stvar običnih ljudi.
Ja sam samo od juznjaka u Srbiji čuo za Ja cu da idem. Svi govore ja cu ici
I’m from Norway. I’m 30 years old. In history class at school when I was a teenager, we learn that there was a language called «youguslavian» and later called serbocroatic. I dont think the schools in Norway have any skills about it, and they dont know enough about the language. I learned russian some years ago, and because of that I can understand some croation Words too :-)
The Croatian language is in relation to Serbian what Mexican is in relation to Spanish, or "American" in relation to ENGLISH...!!
@@milosmilosic2632 ah, okey, than its very similar :-)
How much difference between British English and American English is so big between Croatian and Serbian
Hello, I am a student of the Faculty of Philology in Belgrade and I just want to say that making future tense with DA + prezent like in your example in Serbian is considered INCORRECT even though many people use it like that. It's not considered as something very wrong in spoken language but in written it should be JA ĆU IĆI :)
Aleksandar Popov so in fact, it is the same 😁
In theory 😀 I wonder how the languages will develop further.
Thank you for your input! It is great to have your opinion on the subject from an "official" perspective. Do you have any knowledge on whether more than 30 years ago the same rules you mention apply? Because I remember reading quite a few serbian books which were published during Yugoslavia, and this verbal construction with DA + prezent was a constant in the literature.
Croatian Experience with Sanda hmm well I can’t say for sure but I think it was always like that concerning the future tense. When it comes to DA+ prezent its very common and also correct in the case where there is a modal verb, for example: Volim da pevam, hoću da idem, ne znam da igram tenis, etc. I know that in Croatian in this case its more common to use infinitive, so maybe that’s why you noticed so much DA+ prezent. But when it comes to future tense it should be ja ću videti and not ja ću da vidim and its a common mistake. Keep in mind that in Serbian its also correct to say volim pevati and it depends on the person which version they’ll use. :)
@@srcolesl To me, as a foreigner, Serbian and Croatian are almost exactly the same, they sound the same. Some people say, that they are like American and British english, I would not say so, those have different pronunciation but Serbo-Croation language is almost exactly THE SAME, just few different words, that´s it, much closer than American and British english
The whole discussion seems odd to me as a swiss german speaker. there are so many different variants of german, within switzerland/austria/germany, sometimes not mutually intelligible. yet we have no issue calling them a "german" language. I mean that's what we use the term dialect for, isn't it?
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Great! Greetings from Croatia!!!
I learned these words for thank you and what ....Hvala - Fala and Sta - kaj what are the differences?
The Croatian language actually does not exist... It is the language of the Serbs who live in Croatia and whose language has become the official official language of the state of Croatia...! Understand: Croats have 2 dialects "Chakavian" and "Kaikavian" which do not understand each other - so they took the Serbian language (Appropriated the Serbian language and script) to be able to communicate with each other...!?
Difference between this 'two language, is about 1-2% maximum!
Nope. It is 3%. Which is about the same as the difference between American and British English and less than the difference between Portuguese and Brazilian Portuguese.
The Croatian language actually does not exist... It is the language of the Serbs who live in Croatia and whose language has become the official official language of the state of Croatia...! Understand: Croats have 2 dialects "Chakavian" and "Kaikavian" which do not understand each other - so they took the Serbian language (Appropriated the Serbian language and script) to be able to communicate with each other...!!
Evo sad. Razumijem da sada hrvatski i srpski su dva različita jezika, ali ljudi trebaju znati ovo od lingvističkih točka gledišta. Španjolac sam, i naučio prvo hrvatski, do A2 nivoa, pa onda srpski, zato što trebao sam promeniti profesoricu. Zato kažem da sam naučio obe jezike. Pričam obično ono što se zove "srpski jezik", čak i s mojim prijateljima u Zagrebu. Bio sam čak i više puta u Hrvatskoj nego u Srbiji, a ljudi kažu da "odlično pričam hrvatski", ali u Srbiji da "odlično pričam srpski". Evo, što znači ovo onda? Koji jezik govorim? Vjerujem da, od lingvističke točke gledišta, hrvatski i srpski moraju biti isti jezik, ne može drugom načinom, čak i više za strance koji žele naučiti vaš jezik (ovo je baš zanimljivo, i ogromna čast za vas). Srbi će razumijeti ovu poruku sigurno, koju sam trebao napisati "hrvatskim jezikom" (sigurno mi fali nešto), jer hrvatski i srpski su jedan jezik, ali pluricentralni. Druga je stvar politika i ono što donese. Međutim, odlično video. Čestitam vas dvoje!. Pozdravi iz Španjolske!!
U svakom slučaju odlično pišeš i pričaš! Pozdrav u Španjolsku iz Hrvatske.
The Croatian language actually does not exist... It is the language of the Serbs who live in Croatia and whose language has become the official official language of the state of Croatia...! Understand: Croats have 2 dialects "Chakavian" and "Kaikavian" which do not understand each other - so they took the Serbian language (Appropriated the Serbian language and script) to be able to communicate with each other...!?
@@milosmilosic2632 evo ti, ne znam zapravo da li je tako radikalno sve. U svakom slučaju, i uvijek od lingvističke točke gledišta, isti su jezici.
@@luissolana9584 Lingvistika nije ona koja određuje je li što jezik ili nije, lingvistika služi za proučavanje nekog jezika, povijest je ta koja određuje što je jezik ili ne!
@@meduzsazsa8490 kako molim? Lingvistika koja opisuje jezik iz svakog ugla, dakle zvukova, reči, rečenica, teksta, značenja, korišćenja, da ne nabrajam dalje, možete li bar malo da razumete šta Lingviistika sve obuhvata i koliko laički koristite termin? Kako onda ona ne određuje koji jezici su isti ili ne, tj. da li je jedan ili dva jezika? Pa pobogu... kakve veze ima istorija sa tim, tu pred očima se razumemo, a vi pričate šta je zapisano pre 1000 godina... Svašta... pozdrav.
As languages, croatian, bosniak, montenegrin, and serbian, they are generally the same. You can say they are same sort of peoples. Overall, they are different, but yet still the same. Greets from Macedonia.
razlike su zaista male, a mi stariji koji smo odrastali u SFRJ i koji smo imali predmet srpskohrvatski, odlično znamo i neke hrvatske reči koje današnji mladi možda i ne razumeju
to što su se na prostoru ex YU desili ratovi 90tih ne znači da moramo po svaku cenu osporavati to da su hrvatski, srpski, bosanski, crnogorski - jedan isti jezik
The Croatian language actually does not exist... It is the language of the Serbs who live in Croatia and whose language has become the official official language of the state of Croatia...! Understand: Croats have 2 dialects "Chakavian" and "Kaikavian" which do not understand each other - so they took the Serbian language (Appropriated the Serbian language and script) to be able to communicate with each other...
Serbo-Croat is essentially one language spoken by over 16m people with pretty minor differences in dialect. The only reason it is not called one language is politics.
you need ride few books
Croatian and Serbian are not the same languages...
The Croatian language is in relation to Serbian what Mexican is in relation to Spanish, or "American" in relation to ENGLISH...!!
I strongly recommend you both to not talk about this as you have just embarrassed yourselves because you dont understand the grammar of serbian language and it`s forms, Ja cu ici - I will go, Ja cu da idem - I am going to go. Its the same point but just different form of expression ("Nije sija nego vrat"). And in order to understand why is it the same language, you need to read history books, starting from converting some part of serbian populatino to catholicism... Anyway, while serbs have the book "Gospel of Miroslav" written in serbian language in 12th century (which proves the authentic and undisputed existence of serbian language), croatians have none of their OWN national language written staff so old which means they "borrowed" ours during the conversions, mixing, wars and before that they used german, hungarian, as they were always part of someone else. If there is something so old, show me, I would like to see that language they wrote in medieval, and you can google the gospel and see it (in addition to that, serbian official letter is cyrillic but also equally write and read latin which is being learned in elementary schools). So it leaves the answer as its all serbian language (in Bosnia too, Montenegro too). For example, brits say defence, americans defense, brits say apiologise, americans say apologize and on and on... does it divide them in two languages? no, its all English but just US and UK spoken.. same with Australia, New Zealand, blah blah... Same with spanish... So, its 90% serbian, with some croatian local altered names which are funny like they call chess - .rukomrdajuce mozgodrkalo. But, however, I realised the truth has no value in this time, place and planet anymore since long time ago, so call it martian language if you want and if it makes everyone happy. Good bye
So, Croatians learned cyr in 5th grade as a good to know thing... but we in Serbia learned lat in first grade as a must know thing?!
Razlike su prisutnije u rječniku, nego u gramatici. Ovo objašnjenje razlika možda može biti zanimljivo strancima, ali ne i izvornim govornicima. Mogao bih mnogo toga reći o srpskohrvatskom.
The Croatian language is in relation to Serbian what Mexican is in relation to Spanish, or "American" in relation to ENGLISH...!!
The Croatian language actually does not exist... It is the language of the Serbs who live in Croatia and whose language has become the official official language of the state of Croatia...! Understand: Croats have 2 dialects "Chakavian" and "Kaikavian" which do not understand each other - so they took the Serbian language (Appropriated the Serbian language and script) to be able to communicate with each other...!!
pavlaka is sour cream in serbian not mileram
As I understand, the difference is in the fat which is in pavlaka vs.mileram. However, this is the perfect example of a difference between the two languages! 😀😀
@@CroatianExperiencewithSanda exactly 👍
99% hrvatskih reci iz vasih primera govorimo i mi u srbiji.pogotovo ovde u vojvodini.A u školi u Srbiji smo ucili srpsko-hrvatski
The Croatian language is in relation to Serbian what Mexican is in relation to Spanish, or "American" in relation to ENGLISH...!
Another big difference is that in Serbia much of the Croatian vocabulary is accepted as many Serbs live in Croatia so they use the Croatian terminology (which is different than that used in Serbia proper). As a result many Serbs consider this vocabulary as part of the Serbian language.
Like what? Hladnjak? Better than 'frizder'
Zdravo lutko, jezik je isti a moze svako jezik zvati kako hoce.
Na primer : Hrvati kažu kućanica, a Srbi domaćica.
Hrvati kažu dom a Srbi Kuća
Mislim da su veće razlike izmedju vranjanca i beogradjanina nego izmedju beograđanina i zagrepčana.
Isto tako zagorci i dalmatinci se više razlikuju nego dalmatinci i šumadinci.
Мешаш дом и кућу. Кућа је зграда.
@@zzilverback U Splitu se govorilo "idem kući" ili "Idem doma" i ima isto značenje, dakle mogu biti i sinonimi, iako u biti imaju drugo značenje. Uopće tvrdnja da je "dom" isključivo hrvatska riječ je totalna glupost. Jedna od mnogih između ostalih.
There is only one language „serbocroatian“ I dont‘t care what some nationalist farmers say. Only aftet the war, suddenly everyone believed to have their own language.
We are literally the same , but almost all of our population hate each other :/
We are not the same. Not even close.
We are not the same
We Serbs in Hercegovina use mrkva more often than šargarepa and we use the ijekavica. But you are right mileram is more common.
Waiting for the Croatian vs Slovenian video :)
Its the same language
Its like traveling in Germany from Frankfurt to Stuttgart both speak German in their Dialekt ...
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Nope, Its a different language.
Serbs have so much turkish and greek words...
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JuGoSfRj No, right. They are different languages.
@@kategoried7501 ne lupetaj i hrvatski ima nista manje Turskih reci .
they are the same language, it is like if you pretend to have american english and australian language while it is the same
surely they have regional differences in words but grammar is the same
politicians try to rip this language appart by calling it serbian croatian etc
It's just all dialects of the same language, why are you like this?
what do you mean "why are you like this"? You who?
How nice to see both of you together! Hugs and greetings from Buenos Aires!
Thank you so much, muchas gracias, puno hvala!! Greetings from Croatia!
The Croatian language actually does not exist... It is the language of the Serbs who live in Croatia and whose language has become the official official language of the state of Croatia...! Understand: Croats have 2 dialects "Chakavian" and "Kaikavian" which do not understand each other - so they took the Serbian language (Appropriated the Serbian language and script) to be able to communicate with each other...!?