Can You Mix Your Herd With Horns & No Horns

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  • Опубліковано 16 вер 2024
  • #horn #goats #farm
    Marc Warnke gets this questioned asked a lot. Can you mix your herd with horns and no horns?
    00:00
    00:11 Horns Vs No Horns
    00:25 Do They Do Good Together Mixed
    00:45 Horned Vs Dehorned
    01:10 Horning the Belly
    01:38 Would I Dehorn
    02:00 Science Of Cooling Through The Horns
    02:30 Helpful Tools To Themselves
    03:08 Less Destructive
    03:30 Have The Courage In The Process
    04:25 Packgoats.com Resources To Raising Goats
    04:35 Homesteading With Goats
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  • @karengunia5451
    @karengunia5451 2 роки тому +10

    I agree with you Mark. Unless I purchase a goat that has akready been de-horned, I believe leave nature the way it was created. Love your videos🐐🐐...youre goats are beautiful

  • @mamaAimEC
    @mamaAimEC 2 роки тому +1

    Agree 100% we have a mixed herd too. I would rather deal with any negatives of horns that deal with scurs. I have never had a disbudded male that did not develop scurs.

  • @ЕленаСалтыкова-т9в
    @ЕленаСалтыкова-т9в 2 роки тому +3

    So clean around))) Nice to watch. Good luck and health to you and your beautiful goats)))

  • @leonb3859
    @leonb3859 2 роки тому +5

    Hey, it would be also a great idea, to show, what you have to do on your property on a daily base (such as feeding, cleaning and milking), where you can take us with you for one time.

  • @treegreen6
    @treegreen6 2 роки тому

    Awesome info and helpfull insight from your experience. Its a challenging issue but im tending to steer with leaving the horns. Thanks again Mark.

  • @downeastprimitiveskills7688
    @downeastprimitiveskills7688 2 роки тому +5

    We have some that are naturally polled, no horns. yes disbudding is tough to do and watch and if done poorly leads to spurs that can be a problem later. I like their horns but they can be a hazard.

  • @shellariddle324
    @shellariddle324 Рік тому

    Thank you

  • @davee5384
    @davee5384 2 роки тому +3

    Great unbias factual video. Thanks Marc!

  • @QueenSucho
    @QueenSucho 2 роки тому +4

    All my goats are dehorned, and I will always have it done. I've had a horned goat before and she nearly died several times just getting her horns stuck in stupid places.
    That being said just like any animal husbandry, yes you should be a part of it. I take mine to the vet, I stand with them and love on them while they're anesthetized and then the vet does his job and medicates them all with me right with my kids. He's a wonderful vet, and once the anesthesia wears off they seem to feel no discomfort. I watch them like a hawk for any signs of pain, infection, or any other type of need. I'm with my animals every single day. My herd means the world to me. But I can't watch them every second of the day and I'd never forgive myself if a goat got its horns stuck in a mess of brambles, or a fence and I came out in the morning to say good morning and find it dead.

    • @mamaAimEC
      @mamaAimEC 2 роки тому

      I have a goat with horns that gets her head in & out of things multiple times a day. If they are smart they figure things like that out. Most of my goats are smart and figure out how to move and maneuver things. Horned and non-horned goats in my herd get in & out of strang places.

  • @pinkserendipity1
    @pinkserendipity1 2 роки тому +5

    I currently have two with horns and two without. My two with horns have always been such gentle boys with them around me. I think horns are beautiful. But honestly I'm neutral either way. It will be interesting to see if I find a difference up in the mountains when they're packing stuff around.

  • @agrowingaddiction5035
    @agrowingaddiction5035 2 роки тому +4

    I agree. I have a couple polled goats in my herd and they do just fine. They do use their horns for alotta handy things. I feel sorry for my polled goats not being able to reach that one spot on their back that a horn would be handy for. After seeing how they dehorn goats I just cant do it. My goats are like family.

    • @garfitosmaximo971
      @garfitosmaximo971 5 місяців тому

      Yes, IS gruesome particularly in adult goats when the horn IS fully formed. Really IS a member amputation because the horn IS a member with Blood vvessels and nerves inside It

    • @garfitosmaximo971
      @garfitosmaximo971 5 місяців тому

      I think that dehorning livestock IS cruel and unnecessary It produces pain suffering infections bad growth horns scurs Blood loss etc
      IS better to leave goats grow horns naturally and be left on pastures where they have the freedom to use their horns and follow their instincts naturally, and avoid to confine them in small places where they can trap their horns in walls and other strange places

  • @labreeskarogers1102
    @labreeskarogers1102 2 роки тому +1

    We almost purchased the tools to de horn but I was watching how they did it to the point I never went through with it. So all our babies have had horns.
    I like the unbiased approach to the Horns or no Horns. Our two LaMancha goats were poled when I got them as to meet standards in a show ring. Then I wanted a buck for breeding in our area there are no large bucks close around. So, I purchased a buck that was young. Brought him in and went through some crazy hormone changes but now he is a big lazy buck that chews his cud all day.lol
    He has horns they go wide they can do alot of damage when there moving around. Our buck tried to use his horns to pull the fan out of barn window.lol ( we live in the south it gets hot here) then he scratches his back with them he uses them alot.

  • @brandoncook7972
    @brandoncook7972 2 роки тому +5

    I bought my first alpine dehorned and they didn't do it correctly so he grows small horns that curl into his head. I have to cut them often. Not fun

    • @mamaAimEC
      @mamaAimEC 2 роки тому

      All of my males that have been disbudded have produced scurs or full horns that came in crooked. "Scurs" is what the horn tissue growth is called on a goat that has been disbudded. A vet told me disbudding needs to happen in the 1st 48 hours after birth to guarantee no scurs. Males are very prone because of the testosterone.

    • @mamaAimEC
      @mamaAimEC 2 роки тому

      I have even seen others male goats that were disbudded by a vet still produce scurs. It does not mean it was done wrong, but rather too late for a buckling.

  • @davidjohanson8964
    @davidjohanson8964 Рік тому

    I've heard that goats with horns aren't allowed in goat shows, but since I don't show my goats, I dont disbud anymore. And since we brought home goats with horns from auction, I decided it was better for everybody to have them.I never did get anybody looking to buy a goat for 4H.

  • @jeffallen62
    @jeffallen62 2 роки тому +2

    Horns intimidate people who are unfamiliar with these entities..i find that they love to rake their horns alot like an elk 👊👊

  • @kristenvincent3622
    @kristenvincent3622 2 роки тому +1

    The issue I have with the horns are they can be a serious problem with our current fencing. Also a challenge in handling a panicked or spooked animal. I have found five dead and removed three of the feral herd here alive with their horns caught in fencing. Both of my (now) adults have caught theirs in the fencing, of course I am there and helped them out immediately. I plan on fencing my own yards with 2x4” no climb to prevent this. But in trying to wrestle the wild ones head free of the fence or in dealing with my own goats in a high stress environment, their horns definitely complicate matters. Horns also make great openers for things like feed bins, doors, and lids of any sort.
    I would never remove mine and I think they also play a significant role in expressing natural behaviors and communication. 1:56 is a bit of a example of that. They definitely help in deterring Dogs as well. The sheep dogs here and one frequent guest’s dog here are a little inappropriate in herding. My little doe has backed off all but the guest’s dog, which I have been plain about if she bites me or any of my Goats again there will be repercussions.

    • @garfitosmaximo971
      @garfitosmaximo971 5 місяців тому

      Exactly, this IS one of the reasons that im against dehorning livestock
      Horns are one of the BEST weapons that bovids have to defend themselves from predators
      People often want that coyotes dont kill livestock and they often shoot and kill the canids
      But they dehorn the livestock leaving the animals more vulnerable to predators

  • @hargersadventures
    @hargersadventures 2 роки тому

    The goats you take hiking are they bucks , weathers or a mix?
    When I owned goats and had babies I chose not to dehorn because I did see it get done and it's quite brutal and I also think they are very beautiful with their horns, But don't have a problem with others choosing to dehorn.

  • @FlanaganHomestead
    @FlanaganHomestead 2 роки тому +1

    Too honest for todays society you have a preference to not dehorn but yet you give reasons why you might want to. I dehorn my Nigerian dwarfs they often get their head stuck in the fence if I don’t. Also I take my goats to the petting zoo on my Christmas tree farm. Otherwise I would leave them. I do the dehorning myself. They squeal as much out of fear as pain. The moment it is over they casually walk off.