What to Consider Before Getting a Goat
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- Опубліковано 29 сер 2024
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Marc Warnke, "The Goat Guy," at Packgoats.com shares what to consider before getting goats. Marc explains everything about raising goats. At packgoats.com we have all the resources and tools to help you succeed at goat ownership.
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I think when you eat your own goat. I look at it as I gave that goat the best life possible up until I placed it in my freezer. Alot of store bought meat you don't know how it was raised, handled, or anything. When you raise them you get the relationship with them. You also control what they get to eat or their overall diets.
We have LaMancha does and they are amazing goats. Now we do have a buck on property he is not bad on odor or crazy surprisingly. He is a Kalahari Red buck about a year and a half almost 2 year old. Really easy going sired 3 offspring so far. We are ready for next breeding season this September.
Love your complete ethics through the whole situation
The video I wanted but didn't know existed. Very interesting
Just subbed, thank you for the information. Im a hunter and wanted to get goats for packing out an elk or deer, I heard goats are better than horses. Your videos help so much and my questions have been answered thank you.
Excellent overview thank you.
Your ethics are absolutely in line with nature.
Mark, I am currently battling our small town government to try to change our code to allow certain animal, small goats being one of them.
We have people in town with 2, 3, 5 acres and they won't even allow one pair of goats as pets.
May I have your permission to use a couple of small parts of this video and put them into an educational video I'm making for the battle?
Absolutely and please feel free to pull me in personally. Glad to help.
If you are in northern Utah, I have a beautiful alpine buck that I stud out. It would be nice to re-coup some of my expenses. He is on a 3/4 acre pasture that I can put does in with him. Well fenced.
Love the video and you showing love to goats
I completely and entirely agree with you about the eating aspect. My goats are my beloved friends and I will give them the best possible life I can while they are here, treat them with great respect, Enjoy their companionship, and when the time comes bless me with their amazing and nutritious meat. On this planet something always has to die for something else to live. When people really understand the circle of life things will be a lot better. I believe that as the meat will give sustenance to my body their spirit moves on; It never dies. The ironic thing is maybe one day in another lifetime if so, I will be the goat and my goat will be the human and will Consume me. Lol Who knows these things!? 😊
I was watching your interview that you did with fieldcraft survival and loved it! Also saw how to flip a goat...and it was good! Haha I’ve never studied goat behavior before today. You seem to love this stuff!
I was gonna suggest a guardian or two for mountain lions & possible bear deterrent. And I heard that donkeys are good at keeping away canine predators. Just food for thought.
I was wondering, do you take groups out for hunting in the backcountry?
yes, I guide a client or two every year for archery elk and some rifle mule deer. Also some summer high mountain lake trips. We did just get a guardian dog...such a cool critter
So much information! Thank you for sharing.
The comparison of intelligence between meat and dairy was SO spot on! I have a little boer buckling, and he's special stupid. Love him to death, but he is just plain NOT smart!! :P
I really like how you do these, when my family first bought a property we got goats, and I will be honest we didn't treat them perfectly.
See, we couldn't just let them run around on the property, because there were dogs(we didn't know exactly which ones they were, but it was dogs not coyotes) that were preying on them.
Combine that with us being very busy and there being a thirty minute drive, and we had a lot of trouble with managing them properly, and some of them ended up with hoof issues.
Our final goat did pretty well because the dogs had stopped being so active and so we could let him run throughout the pasture, he cozied up to the cattle because his goat buds were all gone.
I hope to get goats again one-day and treat them right this time, cattle are far easier to handle, since only the calf's are viable to be preyed on by dogs.
I like goats a lot. Easy to raise.
If you are a vegetarian, things die too. Think about all the things that are killed while vegetables are grown and harvested.
I love your videos, all the information has been very helpful for my wife and I. We have 2, 7 month old miniture goats and they got vaccinated yesterday and are not wanting us near them and don't have the same energy. Is this normal?
Um… I haven’t seen that much but it is possible.
oh fuck yeah
What about rescue baby goats?
Rescue goats can house a load of different issues. Not just for them but for your farm and any future goats. Same as auction goats. There are some goat diseases that infect the ground they are housed on and then in turn can infect future goats if not enough time is allowed between when infected goats leave and new goats arrive. This is something most rescue places over look. And not just with goats but for pretty much all animals. With goats, there are also disease that can pass between other ruminants such as cows. So if you are wanting a clean healthy farm, then I would advise against get a goat from anything other then a reputable breeder. Not just one that says they are either.
I know I'm late but I want to add something to this discussion.
It's already been said that goats can bring diseases and such into your flock and cause problems. A few people I know always put their new goats into a quarantine area away from all the other animals. They also deworm, make sure they're caught up on vaccines, they inspect them all over for any abnormalities such as fungal infections, warts and a few other things but I forget what they are. Long story short it's a big risk and there's lots of precautions to take. My neighbor down the street got 2 babies from a person down sizing. Within 3 weeks all but one of her goats passed. So be careful getting free goats or rescued goats.
I know this is not completely related to this video but on a castrations video you mentioned horn growth. Being altered based on when you castrate. Is there any benefit to waiting? If I wait till their 8 months old will the goat itself actually end up being a bigger goat? Thanks
The science does not support that if you wait that the goat will get larger at all. In fact science suggest they will end up shorter. I also recommend you don’t wait that long because often you will suffer personality consequences in the goat because the rut can be so hard on them and your willingness to be with them and they just don’t eat as well during the rut at all it’s very stressful
Thanks for taking the time to respond. Love all the videos. Keep up the good work. Also really enjoy the herd up dates. Ps what happened to the peach colored 300lb goat you had
@@SLJ-0331 I sold him as a pet because he was proof positive that the upper end of the scale is not an endurance athlete he could not hang with the rest of my string even close
@@PackGoatscom thanks again hope season goes good for ya hope the smoke isn’t to bad
Is there anything like chicken math for goats? 🐐 X 🐐 = 🐐 🐐 🐐 🐐 🐐 🐐 🐐 🐐 🐐 🐐 🐐 🐐 🐐 🐐
plants die too when you eat them
Ever had pygmy goats?
If someone was a friend of you and your family all your life, recognized your inner worlds but we're keeping you around only because they intended to cut your throats and betray your trust to eat your dead bodies, would this intention make it ethical? Why treat others in a way you wouldn't want to be treated?
Its obvious you are a city person. And its a shame you have been trained to go to dark areas first rather then reflect on what he was saying. You just assumed and because of that you filled your heart with hate. I know Marc. And many goat breeders / owners. Although Marc is one of the few to carry his relationship with his goats one step further then most, what you imagine happens, doesnt. He isnt talking about killing a trusted friend just because he has gotten to old to help and is now a burden. Goats dont normally just die. There are issues and events that typically lead up to the end. An old goat may get to the point where it cant stand anymore. Gets sick and cant recover fully. Comes down with a case of say, urinary calculi and needs to be put down. In any event, you start to weigh the goats quality of life vs. the pain it is suffering. Or is going to suffer. And then you watch and care for the goat as well as you can until that critical point comes. Now, without owning goats you can have no idea what I am speaking of. But as the years go by and you watch and learn your animals and the aliments that will befall them. And because you love them as much as you do, its your responsibility to put that animal down at the appropriate time. As you have obviously never had the soul wrenching responsibility of having to put down that long time friend, I dont expect you to even grasp what I am saying. But know this. A little piece of us dies each time we have to put down a goat. It never gets easier. In fact, it gets harder each and every time. To the point where we question if we have the courage to do another one. And your knowledge less opinion of it factors in absolutely zero percent. I cant even express how little your words mean to any of us.
Animals aren't people....cannibalism is obviously obscene and barbaric 🤦♀️ Apples and oranges to say the least. It's nature
I subbed because of your knowledge on goats.. But i have to disagree with you.. You don't have to hire anyone to raise and kill your goat.. And you don't have to do it yourself... You don't have to eat meat. I have been vegan 13 years and there is no way in hell i would eat any animal.. Specially one u raised.. Thats family! I find it really creepy.. Anyways thanks for your videos
Wow! With all do respect, you lost me on this one Marc. I get the whole eating meat thing. I grew up in 4-H and FFA. I was a National 4-H sheep production scholarship winner at 17, and FFA Chapter Farmer at 16. I've harvested my own pigs, lambs, cattle, turkeys, and chickens. However, there is no way on earth that I'm going to ask these goats to carry my crap, trust me, hike and adventure with me for years, then when it's no longer of benefit to me, just kill and eat them. My goats will retire browsing in the pasture and maybe being brush goats. I think we owe them much much more at the end of their lives than just saying the only way you can now be of use to me is for me to eat you. I personally cannot in any way rationalize that way of thinking. Don't get me wrong, though my love for these animals is such that I doubt I'll ever eat any goat. I don't have the same reticence about eating a goat that was raised in a pasture for meat and treated well until it is humanely slaughtered for human consumption. For me it's just a step to far to develop such a trusting relationship for years, using them for my own benefit and recreation, then ending that with thanks for the years of work, memories, and devotion, but now your dead and eaten.
Yeah, there's a difference between pets & food livestock. Pets are part of the family. And he started the video saying what great pets goats are.
Complete agree, that mentality of use and trow away is one of the worst parts of humanity, unfortunatly we see it from humans to animals and even from humans to humans in different ways all the time :(
I wanted to come back because I was wondering what Marc actually meant by end of life. Does he mean, end of usefulness, or does he really mean end of life. If he really means processing a retired goat that is being euthanized because it is suffering and is no longer having a good life, then I fully support him utilizing the meat from that animal. I wish he would clarify exactly what he means.
@@smellyolegoat150 agreed
Because I can see it means something to you, respectfully I will respond to your question With a direct and current example. Chester, my long time string leader and one of my most favorite goats has a broken pasterns and I am waiting for his quality of life to drop off enough to give me the courage to butcher and eat him. The choice to do that myself, is a very hard one, and involves weeks of remorse. I do believe I owe him that and it is a personal thing between he and I and my spiritual beliefs as it relates to the natural order of things. I see it that I owe him a loving final transition, and the celebration of his life through taking his energy into my own being.
Hahaha dont think a point to consider when you get a pet is whether you can eat it or not, but regardless if you are starving and need to eat your pet you can also eat dogs cats horses etc, just a bit out of place related to the title of the video but i get that he wanted to pull out a statement about hunter ethics or smth
Although on a second look seems what he was saying is not only on case of need but also if the animal stops being usefull to him in witch case i think its a very shitty thing to do after a life of servitude, basically treating animals like things even if they are your „loving“ pets
@@alessandrofirmani700 it's pretty normal to consider something like that, so you get something out of them extra.
Especially for rural folk and farmers, who are the ones who mostly will do this anyways.
@@alessandrofirmani700 looks like someone has never lived off grid
@@oswaldrabbit1409 yhea i get that, still he is not a rural folk guy, you can see he lives in a well populated area, and also i wouldent say is normal for rural farmers to eat their dogs, i dont think the reason is because there is smth wrong with the meat
@@jozefivanov600 hey man if you like eating your pets to each their own, just dont pose like the of grid guy while taking a shit writing lil coments on youtube lol