Is there a future for White Afrikaners? - BBC Our World
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- Опубліковано 15 тра 2024
- After campus protests some of South Africa's most prestigious universities have agreed to stop teaching in Afrikaans - the language of the Afrikaner white minority who controlled the country during the brutal apartheid era. More than 20 years after the end of apartheid some Afrikaners claim their language, and culture, are being marginalised. For Our World Benjamin Zand meets Afrikaners who fear for their future in the 'Rainbow Nation'.
DP: Eric McFarlane
Presenter: Benjamin Zand
Its never mentioned, that Stellenbosch University was built by Afrikaners in an completely Afrikaans part of the country during its inception, and that is the last remaining Afrikaans university in the country. There are countless other options available for English speaking students to go to.
And then it went on to breed a horde of racist bigots!
Saying that Afrikaans part means that they are indiginous to South Africa better yet Africa! These are DUTCH COLONIAL OCCUPIERS from the 1600s who mercilessly murdered raped & destroyed indiginous African communities
@@ahmedlusajogibbonsmwaikamb6099 The merciless murder and rape only happened in your disturbed mind. That is why blacks are the majority in South Africa, where indigenous people in so-called civilised countries like Australia, Canada and the US, they are in the vast minority.
Where did the finances to build these universities come from. Not from Europe.
We are Portuguese. My son went to Stellenbosch University. It IS THE BEST UNIVERSITY! My son studied in English. Degrees are offered in both Afrikaans and English. There should not be any issue here. It's all just politics.
Afrikaans is the language of whites AND coloureds/mixed race people in SA. This idea of removing Afrikaans from University is a racist oppressive idea by politicoians/ANC. It's a human rights abuse to not allow people to learn and speak in their mother tongue. Afrikaans should not be removed, more universities in other languages should be built. The problem does not lie in Afrikaans, but in an incompetent government who does not cater for all 11 official languages.
The Afrikaners built SA, they built a functioning strong SA. The ANC is breaking it down.
Don't try to change Stellenbosch. It's the best University in SA at the moment. There are many many Universities in SA, if Stellenbosch is not suitable go elsewhere. There are plenty of English universities in SA.
Yes, pure Afrikaans is being preserved by those who speak it which is right thing to do.
There's nothing wrong with being white. Or Afrikaans. Afrikaans is my 3rd language.
Why should blacks feel uncomfortable amongst Afriform? Imagine how whites feel amongst EFF!!?
Everything that ANC changes and decolonises turns to sh*t.
wtf is reverse racism? its still racism. vengeful racism...
when u fuck with ppl for that long, they gon want some pay back. they have only themselves to blame
You're a hateful collectivist simpleton. Are you to blame for the acts of your parents, ancestors and other people with the same skin color or gender? Or are you as an individual, responsible for your own actions only? Besides, the white people today volunteered to give away power. Not to mention the fact the afrikaners and the large black ethnic groups arrived in South Africa at about the same time and apartheid was a result of hostile groups where one was significantly stronger than the other despite increasing numerical inferiority. Had both groups been blacks, no one would have really cared.
Ransom Access Memory your logic is flawed. You talk about not blaming the child for the parents sins. But racism is still an issue. Your still taking advantage of the people. What your logic suggest is we should be complacent to the hypocrisy of Europe. Yes we did this last year and yes we did this the year before and yes we did this for 400 years please trust us we are good people now are you kidding me since when has Europe done anything good for Africa. Conlonization destroyed africa. European white wash african history and claim europeans achieve everything. Why would we want to deal with such a people. Who steal murder and pillaged every other race on this planet. Understand not only do Africans not trust your people...but asians, americans and all other none whites. As economies boom in africa we will slowly cut off ties with you. We don't want violence but to honor the ancestors you need to leave period. How do you expect us to believe anything you say when that isn't our experience. Yes forgiveness is key but we will never forget. We know your European allies will do what ever they can do down african and we will over come you can't kill the black race. Your people will turn on anyone without hesitation and justify transgression with religion saying that the white man is the great savior not the case and your the only ones who think that. You lose your power you say don't act like you. That laughable. Africans want white people off the continent we really don't want nothing to do with Europe. Its not about vengeance we don't want to kill no body we just want you to leave and if you don't then we cross that bridge plan and simple.
+Michael Barnes
We really should all live among our own people. It's better for everyone that way. I would gladly trade all of our American blacks for all the whites still left in Africa.
D Bojangles I'm sure that your native land of Europe wouldn't mind if you went back that would make more since. I'm sure indigenous native Americans don't want you here.
It’s an Afrikaans university, if they can’t speak Afrikaans then they should go to an English university?!
Afrikaans is a minority language.
Funny thing is that the University should folow the demographics of her Country but in Europe it doesnt work like that lol, fucking joke. In my Country theres schools were 1/3 of students aint even natives and if someone spoke about that they would be called racist and xenofic but here a Afrikan school cant be for Afrikaans, the hipocrisy.
It’s the 3rd most common language, above English (which is 4th) the language that they want to change it too
Also in the Western Cape (the place of the university) the most common language is Afrikaans whilst English is 3rd
It’s about Blacks subjugating Afrikaners and impose their will, that’s what the psychological aspect of this is all about. The other part is to fleece the Whites of every single rand they have. Now this brown foreigner is coming in here to try and paint them as the great evil.
@@ThatGuy2005. It doesn't matter because Afrikaans isn't the lingua franca of South Africa. Thus more people can speak English (including second language) than Afrikaans. By focusing more funds on English education, more people can be reached. Even among Afrikaners, many of us would prefer to study in English.
It was reported by Ian Cameron of AfriForum on 7 November 2019, that there have already been 376 farm attacks in South Africa since the start of 2019, that includes about 36 farm murders. In November there has been at least one attack every day so far.
During the month of October 2019, there were twenty-eight farm attacks and three farm murders, whilst one farm attack was successfully averted in South Africa. During September 2019, there were forty-six farm attacks and seven farm murders, whilst one farm attack was averted.
And the authorities continue to deny the existence of these heinous crimes. A staggering statistic and the government says it's not happening!
Do you seriously think you can compare the atrocities your people commuted when they invaded the country to what you are complaining about? I am not in support of evil of any kind but think about it for a moment and be human for a minute.
@@LuckyLucky-xp2sz Who said he was comparing and what has 1652 to do with what is supposed to be civilisation today or should we talk about the atrocities of the Zulu's against neighbouring tribes 200 years ago?
@Cj Nuwe i know that, but they never settled like Jan., so it was pointless mentioning it.
@Cj Nuwe they never settled
@@LuckyLucky-xp2sz are you one of those attackers, perhaps? It sounds that way to me
We live in rural farmland Missouri and have 3 families from South Africa farming here. They came about 2 years ago from SA to begin their new lives here. They are some of the finest hard working people you will ever meet and hope more will come. They really appreciate America and the freedoms here.
Do you really think America isn’t bound for the same end? The Boers are the canary in the coal mine my dear Steve.
What freedoms? The freedom to get shot at school or the freedom to have no healthcare and die?
Yes? Well they better keep that attitude of thankfulness, because the slave trade is no longer effective for anyone here the U.S and abroad, be sure there in Missouri to hold them accountable!
@@trentwest1475 you tell em man!
@@trentwest1475 Blaming society over 150 years ago for your failure to grow up? Yep that sounds about right, get a job and hold yourself accountable!
If students want to study in English only, why do they want to study at a university where instruction language is Afrikaans? They know that before getting to the university. There are English universities. Why don't they go there?
apparently it is.
So you want to say that students who can't speak Afrikaans apply to an Afrikaans university, because it is easier to get there, beacuse of a smaller number of students? But still, it is not a unique thing. In many countries there are study areas where it is easier to get or more difficult to get. For example many students want to study law and not all would get there and few students want to study mathematics. So what would happen if a student who wanted to study law and was not admitted decided to study maths, was admitted and then complained that he/she had to study maths?
Just Me, you hsve misunderstood my intention. I am IN FAVOUR of teaching in Afrikaans at the universities (Afrikaans sal bly). I just wanted to say that if protesters see any problem in the fact that Afrikaans is used as instruction language, they should choose an English university. If there is need to build new universities it should be done so. I said it just hypothetically. But if in fact there is no such a need and all the movement insisting on changing the instruction language is just to make trouble for the sake of making trouble - it is very sad. BTW, I am not South African and I am not a native English speaker. I am from Poland. I only visites SA once. Unfortunately I was not in CT, but I met people from CT area and I have noticed they spoke Afrikaans, regardless their skin colour. I just managed to learn some phrases in Afrikaans, but it was because I was for a short time. Ek is nie jou vyand nie ;)
Who exactly do you mean?
As far as I know there are English universities in every city where Afrikaans universities are. Also at the same university there were both English and Afrikaans courses.
Would he question why is their no whites at a Zulu Festival ?
They are invited ,They never come
Lol I'm sure everyone who is curious can attend
Chle Sbusiso I doubt that
@ you can be born into a country/continent or whatever but you are not born into a particular ethnic group,if my kids were born in japan that wouldn't make them asian I'm sure we can discern the disparity between ethnicity and nationality
JJ he means if your not black your not a real African ok fair enough but what about North Africa? Are they real Africans
This is a good example of card stacking. Why does the media always find the most contrasting people to interview, as a local, I believe it's save to say that the majority of all the races in south Africa want to work together to form a better future.
Yeah man, I agree with you
Although I do agree with you but since the pandemic the racism that is happening is worse than ever the only country I can think of that is a alternative to South Africa is the Netherlands
Thank you! ❤️🇿🇦
The just enjoy ridiculing the European minority and to try and humiliate them as they see fit. As you can see the neoliberal & neoconservative Capitalists of both wings need to destroy European Ethnic Homogeneity to ensure their rule of the planet. They know if the European diasporas unite and go against them then they’re finished.
They can try and escape to their levantine ethno state with their nuclear warheads, but time is in our side and not theirs.
So true
It shouldn't be phased out. Instead, they should be offered in both languages, with students being given the option of which language they wish to take the course in. If then, the majority choose English, they will be happy. The ones choosing Afrikaans will be happy too. It's really as simple as offering both languages as opposed to debating whether a language should be dropped entirely.
We got 11 official languages in SA that means classes must be taught in all 11 languages
Ek praat afrikaans
@@Everything-Emkay is africa a federal state? In that case you can divide it into state official language and regional official language. With English common in both regional and state level. Cause let's face it. English will probably be the most useful one.
@@bulthaosen1169 Africa is a continent you doofus.
I'm speaking Sepedi
In a province where 80% of people are Afrikaans people they complain that the university is afrikaans...
It's such a mischaracterisation oc the Afrikaner. They don't even explain the symbolism of the language monument which is that the towers represent the many languages that came together to form Afrikaans and it very explicitly honours the black languages. I'm so tired of being told what my culture is...
Apparently affirmative action is different to apartheid because doesn't take opportunities away from white people. Tell that to my friend jerome who wanted to join the airforce to support his blind mother and his father but is too white. His father who worked for the railway his whole life but has no pension because he is too white. Tell that to the waitress in observatory trying to support her terminally ill mother on minimum wage and gets 'fuck white people' written in the tip section because that's edgy. Racism is still racism under any brand
But soon you will have where they teach in arabic.
philajfran just wait for it. more refugees welcome and you will have.
+philajfran
No we just have Mosques supported by Neu Arbeiter spring up out of nowhere.
Bizarre get rid of one European based language for another in the name of black rights? Also why not go to a English university?
Because English language is more universal than Afrikaans
The fact that English is more universal doesn't matter, tell that to the Britians teaching in English and ask them to start teaching in Muslim language. If you want to come to my community and start changing shit to suite you just makes you look bad and ugly. Typical 'soutie' replies.
I can see your point that it is an Afrikaans University so if you don't speak it then you should not go there but this is the problem that will always arise when you have a society trying to recover from tremendous injustice.
There are too many open wounds. Every action is scrutinized by the former oppressed in terms of proximity to past actions.
Example: Are they trying to make yet another place where we aren't welcome to edge us out of the best schools yet again?
No doubt some students and teacher likely do breath a sigh of relief that there are less black students there. The past political leaders went there. Are there left over ideologies lurking in that school where not long ago so many did believe in racial inequalities?
Will the students who go to that school form high level connections that make it harder for black, indian, and colured S.A. to get the few high level jobs in the country forming a network that its hard for non white to break into?
This is what angers people and scares them especially in light of the horrid past. A past that is causing problems today.
@@frikkievannieplaas7743 oh yes it does matter. Muslim language? Britians? what's that?
Strange how those who are so opposed to colonialism speak the language.
This is one of thhe best documentaries on South Africa I have ever watched. And given it's dynamics, South Africa is fascinating and there is a hunger for such documentaries about it
In Welsh Universities they typically have the same modules in Welsh and English for every course with the same classes held twice, once in each with a lecturer who speaks the fluently language directly to you. They also allow you to do every exam and piece of coursework in either language based on your choice/preference. Surely this is a decent solution to be applied in this situation?
It could be too expensive
we could learn so much from the bilingual welsh. systems xx kia ora from aotearoa nz x
@Barry Junior True True! 👍
That’s because the Welsh belong in Wales…it’s the land so of course university should also be in Welsh. Afrikaners don’t belong in Africa in the first place so why should universities have to accommodate the few just because they were the former colonizers and rulers of the society?
@gabrielmedrano6875 who did say that? Africans aren't Africans hhhhhh
it is ethnic cleansing.
These Zionist Jews who have killed so many people on earth are afraid to go home. These people killed a lot of our people and we just did nothing. This is unfair.
Mandla Makhedama Zionist Jews? Lol.
lol what
Why don't you go back to Holland? Stop being a jerk!!
when somalians in europe go back to africa!
It’s a tough one about the language, because this is how a minority language dies out, but it would make courses available to more people, just it wouldn’t be in anybody’s first language, so everyone would have a simplified understanding of what’s taught. Maybe they could have some classes in each language, depending on the best teachers available. That aside, I would just like to praise the students for their patient and respectful way of communicating their stance whilst listening to each other. I feel they’re really searching for a solution. Speaks volumes about the caliber of the university. Can I say something non hateful like that without confusing everyone here in the comments section?
Afrikaans is not a minority language. It’s also not only spoken by white people . Many coloured South Africans are also Afrikaans speaking .
@@Brenda90210 colored?
@@lavenderflowers1075 yes . This is SA not USA.
@@lavenderflowers1075 It's a race of people in South Africa. They are called Coloured - it's not a racist thing calling them coloured; it's literally their race.
Simple, just go back to holland. They speak it there 😅
Left South Africa years ago, but Stellenbosch was established as an Afrikaans-speaking university. It's been that way from the start and that happened years before apartheid. You can go to any number of universities in the RSA and have classes in English (or Xhosa or Zulu etc.). Even in Stellenbosch, the post-graduate courses are (or at least were) in English. If you don't want your under-graduate classes in Afrikaans, then, here's a thought, don't go to an Afrikaans-speaking university :-/. Problem solved.
'n Waar logies. Nou in Zuid Afrika, afrikaans taal word meer en meer 'n geheim taal. Dit bedoel dat hierdie taal begin om a taal wees, dié sonder 'n plek sou wees in die nationaal openbaar lewe. Dit is reg so as u het gesê, maar die logiek van ANC is onlogiek.
Here's the truth: in 20 years the ANC government has not built ONE SINGLE NEW UNIVERSITY. NOT ONE. The constitution guarantees the validity and official status of all 11 of our languages. Therefore, to further the needs of all other speakers of other languages and to perpetuate them as such, why are there no universities in isi-Xhosa or isi-Zulu? It is true that when academia is pursued in certain languages it furthers that languages importance also. So why hating on Afrikaans? The government needs to build new universities that service our other language groups as well.
Well said, build universities, not firepools.
I think the government policy of acknowledging *all major South African languages* is *well intended*, but counter-productive in academia. On the tertiary level, all universities should *exclusively use English*, which is the primary language of academia worldwide. Afrikaans is a useless language in this regard and a relic of the past. The indigenous South African languages are also not very useful, since people will have to deal with English literature, journals and articles anyway. Every South African who makes it to university should be proficient in English anyway! BTW, even the Chinese and the Russians publish most of their academic publications (journals, articles, dissertations, research papers...) in English!
Cyrus MUFC careful. You don't understand what will happen when people drop the act
It has however built almost 3 million RDP houses and expanded basic amenities and services to many who were previously forsaken.
though you raise some valid points..Afrikanners self-determined by building their own universities and developed their own language and culture.Ideologically they are a centered people.Having many universities all in different African languages would be ideologically desirable..however very difficult and expensive to achieve.If i were to have a say i would encourage different cultural groups to develop their own institutions..rather than trying to change English or Afrikaans ones.It makes no sense to change the name East London when everything else, architecture and design remains ideologically and fundamentally English.Those institutions should also not be African existentialist they should only be Xhosa or Zulu centered ..and their modernity should be developed from the centering of Zulu etc concepts whilst accepting and interrogating ideas from other cultures.....
BBC - Where the white man is always wrong
They are pointing out the prejudices against whites in SA, what are you talking about?
you kidding? BBC HATES white men, you obviously don't read much news at all.
You're writing this comment literally under a bbc video exposing the discrimination whites are now facing in SA. How delusional are you people?
What? Cognitive dissonance is strong in you.
just look at everyones history fool. litterly every history is filled with war
asian
arabian
european
american
and african, hell african are still doing it
Imagine the worldwide outrage if you forced a Zulu to speak English at their school
Shut up
With about 7 million native speakers in South Africa, or 13.5% of the population, it is the third-most-spoken language in the country. *It has the widest geographical and racial distribution of all the 11 official languages of South Africa* , and is widely spoken and understood as a second or third language. It is the majority language of the western half of South Africa-the provinces of the Northern Cape and Western Cape-and the first language of 75.8% of *Coloured South Africans (4.8 million people)* , 60.8% of *White South Africans (2.7 million)* ; 4.6% of Asian South Africans (58,000 people), and 1.5% of Black South Africans (600,000 people).
Why is that? How did it become so? Would really love to know if you can...
The nation of South Africa is tragic because of what the ANC has done to that nation.
@@anthonyvasquez1316 I guess partly, but also the years of Apartheid & its effect...
The ANC inherited a functional nation and support from the entire world, and good will it squandered that even Bishop Desmond Tutu felt betrayed. The boycott of South Africa did play a role in ending Apartheid. Those companies are ironically boycotting South Africa because it's not safe, and the government is corrupt and incompetent.
Well said. All true.
But the British also played a part in the apartheid and English is a colonial languages, too???
So lets do the same thing, no? :D
Jon Sousa: Yeah, you know.....many Countries have done some pretty shitty things. Some worse than others. The Spanish, the Germans, the Brits, the Americans, the Chinese, The Russians, India, Rwanda, Armenia, Ottoman Empire, Combodia....etc etc....... just saying.....
Yes, but English is common to all ethnic groups and regions, while Afrikaans is of course associated with the Afrikaaners. In fact most African countries use colonial languages in government because there are too many different indigenous languages to use just one.
butter cup: Hmm not a fitting name. Butter cups pride themselves by apparently being all inclusive and goody two shoes (in reality, they are not ofc) in a political sense. You sound incredibly racist. Your hate towards all white people runs deep. What? You don't believe that black people kill, torture and rob? Face it: Black people are humans as much as whites or any other skin colour. No matter what skin colour, you get good and bad people all over the world......no matter what skin colour. LOL, you honestly believe that if only blacks existed in the world, you would never hear of murder, torture or theft ever again. That is just naive.
butter cup White people are the chosen ones my friend. God made man in his image which is white and that is why he has allowed us greater privileges.
Correct me if I'm wrong but ain't the whites descendents of the dutch
and Flemish/Belgians.
kelly mikaere yes
🤦♂️
Ja
@Zero Naut The Netherlands fought hard against apartheid and cut trade deals with their own kin to help bring an end to the evils that were happening in South Africa
This what happened when you doesn't have neutral national language that serve as lingua franca for all people regardless their race, ethnic group, culture and religion
The Western World and especially The UK and The Netherlands must do more to support the white Afrikaners. They have an obligation because of their historical ties. Especially now that the Afrikaners are heavily threatened.
@Anonymous Many white Afrikaners have British surnames. But what is the point that you are trying to make? That the UK shouldn't take responsibility regarding its former colony?
100% spot on! We cannot rely on the UK government though. The British people need to step up and help our diaspora in South Africa. I’ve tried sending people messages but they seem to be quite. The Afrikaners are heard often but I don’t hear from the Brits. I want to get in contact with them.
@@noodlyappendage6729 😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡🤡 u want to help them just coz they r white....what a naive bunch
What happens if a university wants to offer a class in Xhosa or Zulu language? That won't be allowed either? This is a slippery slope. We need to let people keep their regional and ethnic languages where it is reasonable.
djokawari ...pending...of course it's done in language classes dear dumkopf
For such a tiny portion of the population they certainly seem to be catered to.
Even if they wanted to, there are not enough Zulu and Xhosa soaking lecturers, secondly all textbooks are either in English or Afrikaans..
Riaan Blom ..hello...deesdae meestal swart dosente nie seker lot teks boeke..dink jys reg...aangename aand
Peter Talgaard65 groete uit Maputo.
Guess what, an extremely biased documentary from BBC, I expected no less
Not only that, but also plenty of hateful comments from all sides. Humans just showing how "intelligent" our species really is
Facts are not biased
no thats your opininon
Facts!
What did they get wrong tho?
As a black person South African I hope the Afrikaaners live long
As a black person I hope they don't
@@TheSunkissedmein2000 why
@@user-pn4jh6ev4mNon American blacks think Europeans are heroes.
@@user-pn4jh6ev4m They are just another set of colonizers expecting to take over what's not their own.
@@user-pn4jh6ev4m And if you are black no disrespect to you, I just can't understand how you can be this ignorant.
I've seen a number of Benjamin's documentaries, and I'm always impressed the tone and the contents.
The US government pushed Louisiana to stop teaching Cajun in school after the Civil war. Now it’s almost a dead dialect.
Do you mean creole ? I’ve never heard of teaching Cajun
Multiculturalism at its finest
ass hole Well then the non whites should leave Europe to shouldn't they
Good idea...but other europeans also hate other europeans....EVEN if non white all leave europe...still gonna be hate lol
yeh there will still be hate.. but at least they wont smell like sour milk
In South Africa their more then 10 recognized official languages, two are colonial, afrikaanse and English. The most spoken is Zulu and xhosa (native tongues), yet the medium of instruction is (colonial)English in most primary, secondary and tertiary education in South Africa and no other indigenous language groups object to this, because it's a universal language that most understand and speak. Now, why is it, that the local Afrikaanse (colonial)language group is objecting to be taught in English? Why are they the only ones complaining?
Sorry but in Cape Town zulu or xhosa are more colonial than afrikaans.
@@alejandrosotomartin9720 colonial? Explain.
The difference is that they don't back down and they don't have to. If you want to be taught in your mother tongue, then so beit. If not, then that's on you.
@Nico Frontier sorry, I'm not trying to be rude but I can't understand you.
@Nico Frontier okay and I'm not against that.
People who speak more than 1 language are fascinating. 😎
Dutch, Afrikaans, English, Low Saxon and German here
When slaves were taken to America were they allowed to speak their own language and practice their own culture? They were forced to change their names.
If it were up to me, I'd give American citizenship to all Afrikaners (with the exception of any with criminal records).
The Goodly Dragon wow so you wouldn't give any citizenship to any Afrikaans?
The Goodly Dragon So None would get it? lmao
No we don't need anymore refugees here let the UK deal with it
especially racist ones.
I don’t think the rest of the world wants racists. They need to assimilate rather than being difficult.
That Pretoria professor was preaching...if only we could all be that receptive, then we could sit down and have real conversation.
Factss 💯
My ex bf, a white South African, learned English, Afrikaans, Xhosa and Zulu in school, and as he was born in 1971, he was born and bread during the Apartheid era
The problem I see here is that from a purely economic standpoint that you're at a disadvantage in the global marketplace if you speak Afrikaans and don't speak English, or you spend all your time immersed in Afrikaans. There's nothing wrong with preserving your culture. Huge mistake not to prepare for the global marketplace.
Tell that to Germany where almost everyone can just speak German and they are one of the top 5 wealthiest countries in the world. Or to China, where not even the supreme leader can speak english.
Language doesn’t put you at any disadvantage anymore, anyone who thinks it does is not in touch with the real world
@@TinyFord1
I’m not involved in the discussion of preserving your heritage or whatever but you’re not neccessarily so correct with what you said
56% of Germans can speak English at a conversational level which is a higher percentage than France or Spain and they can take it from young iirc, and China has about 70 million English speakers, which when compared to the 1.4 billion people there is obviously not a huge proportion, however the sheer number of English speakers in China is higher than native speakers in the UK. And many Chinese parents tend to give their children names of English origin so that they can register email addresses.
Just some food for thought.
@Tiny Ford You only learn another language if you have a need to. I learned Portuguese because in the 1980s I was in Cascais and nobody spoke a word of English.
Why not move to Germany then. You know you are not welcome there.
I'd rather be poor and happy with my people with a shared culture and morality and language than be rich and be deracinated and atomoized and speak the langauge of my historical oppresors. The English put your ancestors in literal concentration camps. They invented concentration camps just to throw the Boer in. Materialists like you will never truly feel like you belong to any group, and you will conitnue earning money and speaking another ethnic group's language completely oblivious to your lack of ethnos.
I loved that line " it's not my fault so I don't feel guilty, but I realize it's a problem and I'm privaliged so I need to do something about it". If people cold realize it is not about shame they would probably be less defensive
Don´t know. What I heard was a sincere compassion and a good will to help. And truly, that´s probably the only way of coexistence - the poor people (kids) in the slums need to get a chance to achieve higher education. There are many cases all around the world which prove it right - young people are malleable and once they´re shown a positive example they follow. Then they try to get out of the misery they were born in. Guys, people should learn, listen and cooperate from one another. Whites could learn a simpler way all life (meaning less demanding), black Africans should learn all the good things European civilization offers: technology, science, engineering, ability to plan, foresee and organize things.
You do also know there's a big difference between somewhere like South Africa and America though, right?
Also if the people who are being reactionary to the past stopped trying to play everything like a damn pendulum, swinging from whites having privilege to non-whites having privilege, we wouldn't have issues like this. All blaming people does is creates MORE racial anger.
Privilege of what? Its been over 20years since mandela/blackman gain power to rule nothing to show for over 20yrs of blackman in power.
Africa is a shithole as it is currently
There's something called morals. Good morals tell you to be good, kind and respectful. With that in mind, there's a difference between asking for the privileged to help the disadvantaged, and the other is labelling an entire race as privileged just to justify some form of discrimination. Racism lives because we're using racism to combat it. We're afraid of complexity so we find a social scapegoat to blame.
John Doe bulllllllllllllllssssshhhhhhhhiiiiiiiitttt!!!!!
Its so weird hearing this as a Canadian and thinking about Quebec
this is one of the best videos i have ever seen. this reporter is awesome wow
Am I the only American looking at the comments and just shaking my head?
Seriously it’s sad
No I just can’t believe this....
You are not... very sad and disheartening.
I'm sure they would welcome you there.
Why? The whites built and founded the country. The land was empty when they showed up 400 years ago. Dark skinned people never lived down there where its so cold.
Zand goes out to the countryside to interview whites, but curiously doesn't mention one thing about all the farm murders and violent atrocities being committed against rural Afrikaners. Then he has the nerve to talk down to one of the men about how he seems to be dwelling on negative thoughts. It's not negative thoughts Mr. Zand, it's called reality.
I agree with you that it is definitely called reality. Overall, I think Benjamin did a pretty good job with this documentary, especially compared to someone like Louis Theroux.
That’s their home you come over here and you speak their language.
This is their home. They conquered and turned South Africa from nothing into something.
Gerald Lucky it’s not. South Africa isn’t a white country. They took it by force and blood and systematic racism. Disgusting.
@@f0B00 so is it a black country, cuz its a country for everyone you cant blame the people of now for the people of +200 years ago.
If you look at south africa today it is a total mess, most murders in eny developt country, taking land from the white farmers giving them to black people (not a bad thing) but than dont give the new owners funds to run the farms and most of them also have no expiriance.
south africa is killing itself by and thats why many young black and white poeple leave south africa.
Felix well, if I can’t blame people for the doings 200 ago, how can it be then totally legit that people still suffer from oppression back then? It is not a country for everyone. Whites made it that way to justify the evil act of intruding and claiming land that is not yours?! The audacity to even argument this, is beyond me. Natives survived thousands of years before so how the f**** do you think they need help from white people? Insane ....
The blacks in South Africa aren't natives either. They chased the natives out.
Why can't this university continue to be taught in Afrikaans?
There must be some other universities that are taught in English in SA, else they could(should) build more if there's such a huge demand for studies to be taught in English.
Yep, pretty much all other universities teach in English. It's just to be mean to Afrikaners I think
Afrikaans is just spoke in South Africa by a minority. I don’t think it is financially feasible to continue the language on public funds. Mexicans make up the same percentage of the USA but couldn’t see Spanish being taught as a major language in its universities.
They are going to go to the better living areas? So the minority hold all the good land still. Of course the government is going to go after it because they another 20 million people to cater for that weren’t catered for under apartheid.
@@anthonywillis7634 In the western half of the country it is spoken by the majority. Keep in mind also that there are more first-language Afrikaans speakers than English speakers in the country. So don't know what your point is.
Nicholas Smythe: Based on pure numbers it doesn’t make sense. If anything people should be learning in the dominant Bantu language.
As a Dutch man, I hope for my Afrikaner brothers. Maybe I could visit someday?
Afrikaans Sal Bly! Afrikaans Zal Blijf!
Why don’t you guys take them back.. They are a pain in the backside here.
Come take them back. We're tired as Africans.
@@KingOfAfrica90ome and take your people from Europe then, we don't want them here either.
@@Dinuzulu1879because they are more South African then you Zulu.
can we just trade our Muslims for South African whites?
i want to trade the muslims in europe for the whites in south america and north america. Fair trade?
YESSSS!!!!!!!
11:01 best part of the interview..
You nailed it... and your facial expression said it all
True King Spirit yeah he is disgusted by the whites. How can a white be proud to be white. There is one racist in this interview and that is the reporter
@@mustafaal-ghezi1757 Whats the difference between English-only whites and Afrikaners?
Are there coloured Afrikaners? Is there racism with white ones?
Hope that they all prosper and do well... wonderful people.!
English is the universal and international language of science and business
Come here to France and Germany, they shit on you if you don't speak their language. Nice way to keep the knowledge inside in these days of globalization.
like u dont no the half english belongs to the queen an it a way to inslave people
@@evanmcdonald5075 and why do they teach french and German school chidren English in their schools?
97% of u can barely speak the language properly
@@evanmcdonald5075 even in France science is mostly taught in English
If all White South Africans left, then SA would look like Zimbabwe in about 5 years, or worse like Detroit.
You feel better now? I really hope you get the help you need, because you have a ton of issues.
+Julesmo
Where's the lie though?
Or perhaps it could end up like Namibia? Not all black run countries are disasters.
+Serb Hunter
Funny you should mention Namibia seeing as it is the only other country in Africa with a similar percentage of whites within their population.
Except whites aren't the ones ruling Namibia. Their black majority cities / towns seem to be doing just fine. Unlike South Africa at the moment.
Good report, well done
Afrikaans should have their own language like everybody else
its afrikaans lol
This sounds like another story of Columbus discovered america
All lies and deceit
one where dese didn't help columbus
PRAYERS GO OUT FOR U MY BROTHERS HOLD STRONG STAY BRAVE AND FIGHT NEVER GIVE UP NEVER
When ur used to privilege, equality feels like opression
I agree with the professor at university of Pretoria that to achieve an equal society we need to dismantle the structure s of inequality but it should also mean giving every group a sense of home.
When I lived in South Africa, there were 12 million blacks in the country,(so the Apartheid Government said) Now there are 50 million, rising to an estimated 70 million by the year 2050. Problems ahead.
Why is that a bad thing, why aren’t black people allowed to have kids?
@@DrCuriensapprentice it is not the fact of having kids it is just that the kids are not 2 or 3 its more like 5 and then they live in proverty so they cant take care of their kids so the coverment pay them child support and that comes from tax payers so the tax is higher and also the need in jobs so you have 5 kids only your husband works if you have one you see the propleme ? (Its not all black people or coloured,white )
@@butterflygirl1025 South Africa is expected to have a decreasing population by 2050 and there birth rate is at the global average around 2 children per family. Also there 50million black people that the amount of total South Africans. There around 20-25million blacks with That number only increasing drastically because of immigration. . There around 8million white people 8million colored people ,5million Indian people and around 2 million people of other foreign groups .
@@shaddythewiz3836 okay thank you i was just telling her how i understand and see things but yeah thanks for the info
@@shaddythewiz3836 you talking shit
Naturally ... if you want to keep your faith in humanity ... DONT READ THE COMMENTS.
Julian King whites got to know the truth😂🤷🏾♀️
It’s sad so much racism on both sides
God is disappointed by the racism from both sides
@Martin Stop being like this, man! Both sides should change the way they think and act! Whe you say "your people" or "white people the most beautiful race..." you're making a lot of trouble. You have to remember how black people suffered in the entire world with the white people for centuries; maybe that's the cause of so much fight today (it does not justify that whites have "to pay" for what they did in the past, because the world belongs to everyone). I'm from Brazil and I can say that. I'm a black man who never suffered like many black people here, but I heard a lot of shit from white people but I never wanted them dead (I'm not saying you want somebody dead). I always wanted things to be different here and there. I also know that white people suffer racism there, but the only way to stop it is when both black and white people forget about race and work together for a better life to everyone. God bless you and your country and remember that one day everybody is gonna die, so let's be friends in order to live in peace.
That's what I've thought of 😢
We love our Afrikaans brothers and sisters. We young and don't know much about the past until one reads about the history. They are hardworkers, we do learn and speak Afrikaans. Afrikaans men work hard with their hands and I think they must be allowed to learn in their language to understand better it's fair as I personally understand better in Zulu. Finally I personally adore Afrikaans speaking people in our country
@Barry Junior is American only for native Americans, is Europe only for whites?
Can there be some impartial commentary from the interviewer?
You forget that the BBC has such a white shaming campaign going that the only people they will not critizise is the main culprite (their own royal family).
How can u stand your ground, on a land that u stand on is not your ground?
Then the blacks in Europe can go back to Africa!
@@auntmelisa8689 It doesn't work like that europeans love black culture
those africans don't love those farmers or those corny ass college kids
Jethro Arcadia Please elaborate more on how Europeans love black culture? And please tell that to the Africans that keep constantly flooding into Europe every damn day
Jethro Arcadia London does not represent all of Europe 😂 And just because you saw white People in a Jamaican restaurant(remember Jamaicans arent just black) does not mean shit🤣
@@auntmelisa8689 the united kingdom influences all of Europe its only a matter of time before places like Poland,Sweden & Great Britain fall in line just accept it its over Asians are flooding in Indians are flooding in Blacks are definitely flooding in you & your racist friends will soon be out numbered don’t fight it embrace it its kinda like your country is being raped but in a good way and i don’t get your point regarding the people of Jamaica what were you trying to say ? the island of jamaica is 93% black....??..Are you a closeted Gay man pretending to be A old white lady something about you seems Disingenuous
BBC is now, in this modern age, should be renamed the BRITISH BRAINWASHING COOPERATION.
I like how this journalist chooses to make a scene of racism and language issues at Stellenbosch, as if it's like that at every University. Which is blatantly false
Language and who speaks what is actually a very common sticking point in conflicts around the world. Kurdish is banned in Turkey because it's the language of a separatist minority, Russian is highly controversial in former Soviet republics like Ukraine, the Quebec independence movement is largely motivated by fears of English replacing French, and the list goes on. South Africa is far from alone on this point.
Get out while you can.
"So those who are first will be last , and those who are last will be first.. - Matthew 20 :16..
Luhle_ SA it was not said about soith africa
Exactly
What about the ones in the middle?
@@laszlosarosdi5417 we stay seated in the same old chair, no stress tho, i brought jokes and pop corn, we will become friends today
And then what? When the last become the first? Will they then become the last and another the first.
It's a cycle but you're using it in a vengeful tone.
BBC didnt dig deep enough here. Only the surface was scratched with this documentry
@Zero Naut I would love to see these "lovely mansions" and "businesses" because in my eyes, you have most of the things you mentioned down to the T... Before making a stupid and racist comment like this, take into consideration, yes it was shitty that the people were forced out of their homes, yes it was shitty that so many of them were killed, why not let that amount to something at least, so we all can live in a country where we dont need to fear racial steriotypes and stupid judgement calls from previous actions, I mean it was literally decades ago, and we've moved on and shaped SA to what it is today.
What you reap is what you sow.
Imagine the Spanish government banning Catelan in universities because its to hard for Spanish students to go to school in Barcelona. A language isn't just a tool of communication, it's the very soul of a people.
I don't see why Boers can't learn their own language in a private school, English seems more efficient.
the drop out rate of black south africans is nine times the drop out rate of white south africans so why dont you advocate against drop out instead of white privilege yet again? all my black south african family members get heckled down when they tell that white privilege is over in za.
Mla dit No it has to do with values and if there is a father in the home.
judeanwhoremonger your black family members are getting heckled cuz they hate their blackness. Y else would they take you into their family??
the drop out rate is the same in the US...but it's always the white man's fault....
I'm 54 with BSc mathematics BCom degree inagricalture , Diploma in electrical and mechanical engineering and teacher. I'm now unemployed for 10 months... No work for us.. Soon I will be homeless.
So so sorry for you. Wish the world would realize what is happening!
I'm 25 have a degree and a have a job. The issue is your age not qualifications.
@@Dusijejdjjd fun fact Muslims were the first slave traders in the world
@@galgamekthegreatlord4823 that's not true, even if it was you sound like a child trying to get out of trouble by pointing out somone else's, which just goes to show how some of you have no remorse and truly aren't sorry for the past...
@@jezebelwalters9159 Why would I be sorry for something I didn't do? I have no reason or requirement to feel sorry for people it's not a law.
13:00 the dancing didnt go with the music?
Huh ?
Afrikaans speaking South Africans should come to the Netherlands and Belgium and the English Speaking South Africans should emigrate to English speaking countries. Leave South Africa to Africans and start a new life among their own people.
They barely speak English,if they came there they would probably protest there aren't enough schools in their 4000 other languages
South Africa would just become a big dump then, like Zimbabwe is
We have our own people! Here!
@Johannes Liechtenauer And American, Australian leave the native land in their billion, that sounds fair.
Ok,when the rest of the world does that you will be stacked on top of each other like cord wood.
8:54 wtf lol
"suh dude"
09:20 tainted legacy of communism on the youth in Africa today
I can agree with the students that English language learning are a better choice for so many different groups seeking an national education but do disagree with the emphasis on the stats used because even if the college were 100% South African it wouldn't reflect the whole of the nation only those who were rich enough to go to college.
Very good. I would love to see an update now 6-7 years later. These are truly amazing challenges, and the real potential of bloodshed should send all Christians worldwide to their knees in prayer.
Promoting a other religion?
9:33 the truth slap his face
His face did turn 🤣
If it`s an 'Afrikaans bookshop' how-come most of the books and signage is English?? And even if it was completely Afrikaans, so what. It`s like someone complaining about an Italian bookshop in Italy...
shut up back to europe for you
Thomas clueso Huebner May our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ forgive you for your ignorance.
Repent and be saved :)
Shut up white man. Just leave africa
I studied at Stellenbosch University and 95% of my textbooks were in English. It is sickening to see how uninformed these protesters are.
Alwyn Nel So you are saying that Cape Town is not part of South Africa, but an Afrikaaner-enclave? Are you questioning the territorial integrity of South Africa? Are you a separatist foreign agent?
1996 students protest against the same use of Afrikaans as a medium communication.
This might offend some people, but I think the white Afrikaners should immigrate back to the Netherlands. I think it's safer for them there than in South Africa.
It doesn’t need to be that extreme. All they have to do is move to Orania and the rest of the Northern Cape.
Many places seem to be destabilizing due to separate cultural identities and resulting tensions. So you may not be wrong, it’s not really different than many Europeans wanting their countries back and focused on helping their own first.
LOL Afrikaners speak english better than the so-called "english speakers"
Hirpus Afrikanners do not speak English better than the English in SA. Blacks are not English speakers, they never claimed to speak English better than the Europeans. Please get your facts right.
Why do you then insist on English in schools? Even Primary Schools are overwhelmingly English...why??? If you have to learn in n second language why not Afrikaans, or even better develop your own languages. Everyone seem to think that in order for them to get a chance they need to take it from Afrikaners, build your own, you have the chance, you have the government, all the Tax, all the say, you are the rulers of SA over this fading minority. That is what the Afrikaner did after the Brits burned the Boer republics (killing a third of the people). Nothing is made, maintained or passed on without hard work and one last thing: Race is insignificant, Culture is everything.
I'm a white English South African, and I can speak better English than all of you dutchmen. ;p
i can not speak english or dutch...
Matome Malatji Then why do they want classes in English?
Good documentary, I like how you cover the topics you choose with a level head and without prejudice.
oh really?wake up stupid you are so naieve do u have a clue what the bbc has become a lefty liberal spokesperson socialist marxist PC culturist platform completely biased in their lefty agenda
well then let the university speak isizulu then if its all about equality
The absolute banter is, if you look up some research, turns out the Bernard bloke got suspended following Campaigning Irregularities
If you a person who believes in God you wouldn't be racist but you can't say that I love God and you hold hands with Satan
Black people are the test god gave us
@@patdarko3063 Elaborate.
Amen
God himself is racist smh 🤦♂️
@Zero Naut .
Blacks are so divided, they're also humans, also discriminate base on ethnicity or more, even when whites are not more in South Africa they will still be divided
squirrel m m, probably not
Tribalism
Tribalism here in Kenya is more pathetic....Afican weakness..
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purepotential7
you're nature is one of peace huh? is that why there always wars and shit going on in Africa constantly?
Live & let live. If their society leads them to self destruct, so be it. Its not the Job of Whites to take care of them. In fact, right now... I'd say Whites should spend some time taking care of themselves. Nobody should be more important to White people than White people.
I think this Documentary must have a part 2 of it that will involve Black side it’s simple and Klaar 👏🏾👏🏾
Mellow Gamer but how can you stop something that is inside of humanity apartheid was created buy a state of mind and being told was is good for you as a Black Child or White child at the end that’s when you will find those kind of movement in school or in varsity to practice that evil I am so disappointed when I watch this documentary how come a group of students can form a movement like this and fight for the rights that are not in the country Constitution that mentality it shows that they have been groomed and touched how to be Afrikaner than how to be kind and humble and treat other humans so let me tell you about Black institution you will never find other students try to convince others to form a movement that is against other languages and make it a rights movement to do that is why I say we need a continuation or we can do it if it’s possible if we can share the rights I am working on film industry and I have my own equipment to shoot this so my last point is there is no world organization that can help a racial issue in any country, Racism is a person not a virus we don’t need help about that only help is the inside of any human being to deal with
@Sam • Really? Is that your excuse? 😂
Let's take Germany for example. By the end of WW2 the country's cities were severely damaged, and agricultural production was only 35% of what it was before the war. No one excepted them to recover from what happened, but 20 years later they had the best economy in Europe and by 1989 they had the 3rd best economy in the world. So stop making lazy excuses. South Africa didn't need to recover from anything, the ANC only had stop apartheid and create more jobs.
@Sam • just by reading you're comment I can clearly understand why there's no more hope for South Africa.
I have been talking and trying to exercise the system to try to solve this issue we have in country about Apartheid issues when I try to describe how Apartheid affected black peoples and communities they feel like we still angry 😡 and can’t forget about the History and I get this word a lot we can’t get it Over with it so my Question to them was how come you can teach a history class with questions pending and don’t know how to answer them like did Black people in SA🇿🇦 get justice from all the murders from Apartheid police and soldiers? And also with that Government was also involved there was no justice if we can have an open statement from all the SA🇿🇦 citizens to come forward and tell their stories and all the pending cases that was never attended so with my opinion I will like to blame my Black Government to not address this kind of issues after 25 years of Democracy but they never touch this such issues. I am not asking for Vengeance or pay back just only justice for the rest so they can Rest In Peace and be the good ancestors of this land so we can tell a story and history with a good ending so my point of all this is if we need a rainbow 🌈 nation we need also white peoples to challenge apartheid government and apartheid activists to face all the corruption they did they know them they must say it who are they even they died and others are arrested and others they stay in other countries they must know that they are responsible of killing black activists so all their grandchildren know how racist grandparents are that will create a peace and a close chapter
Mellow Gamer Hope is with us if we will give up it shows that the corruption will not gonna end soon if we still think like the way we act now anger and Emotions won’t give us good results we end up with greedy and selfish and not thinking for next generations let’s stop judging with an eye 👁 or with the skin color let’s deal with facts and points
The price ?
IN Namibia afrikaans is taught in schools and you need to pass afrikaans in order to get a high school diploma in order to enter university. I asked why and was told that most people speak afrikaans. however english is the national language and all universities are in english. to get a job here one needs to speak afrikaans, english, and most of the time german as well.
I love that most of us speak 3 languages plus most of us still speak our home language, where in the world do people speak so many languages????
In a lot of places, except in the US
@@Ryukuro that´s not true at all! 4 langs speakers are rare in Switzerland and Luxemburg. Belgium has a hard time figuring itself out with two languages
Whats the difference between English-only whites and Afrikaners?
Are there coloured Afrikaners? Is there racism with white ones?
We have some white south Africans coming to NC USA,we will welcome you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
President Trump should make a deal with Zuma and Mugabe in exchange for granting full asylum to all Afrikaners and Rhodesians. They'll fit in American culture easily. Bringing them over to the US is far better than if they go to Europistan, I mean the EU.
The Greatest Puerto Rican here aka, a US citizen. Nice try dumbass LMFAO!!!!!!!
Reality Searcher he's not South African. His parents are Canadian and British. He just happened to have been born here and lived here for a bit. He hated his time in South Africa and Afrikaans schools. Just UA-cam any interview he talks about South Africa and he seems like he's going to break down because he couldn't take the racism and bullying.
+ClarksonsinUSA Hell no. The last thing the US needs is more racist white people. Go straight back to Europe. Just like you came.
We have plenty of time the boer coming to Canada since 1997 and they are assholes tribalism and nepotism is their game.
hoe kan jy 'n program maak oor die ondergang van 'n taal sonder om dit behoorlik te hoor? Ek is seker die BBC het 'n onderskrifgenerator
I love the white student who says he recognises his privilege and is going to do something to help those oppressed.
I keep hearing "boet" when he says but😅
Racial divide, other than War, makes the rich even richer. While we take our frustration out on each other, they sit back watching trying to figure out how to exploit it. When we figure out we need each other, such things want happen.
Best post 👌🏽
If you speak dutch in Belgium you will go for a dutch speaking university- what's wrong about it.You will not go to a french teaching university and tell them to change language because you don't speak it so well
There are way too many underlying things here. It is not Belgium.
@@tsholanangkhunou1820 yup yup
That's true .have Holland ask Switzerland to help them get the farmers to Cornelius oregon lots of Dutch farms out there very good rich. Natural dirt .everything grows there.lots of farmers in oregon.or north or south dakota lots of ranch land there good water source.or Greenland closer to Holland for families wanting to visit but oregon also has an international airport for those wanting to visit Europe.canada is welcoming farmers in the central provinces as the queen wants more food manufactures.many are going to Canada to homestead.lots of water.leave Africa .go to better soil it's out there.you can also raise timber in Canada.all good industry's.even soap.you use soap from baby to grandpa.always in bussness.america wants farmers come.come to oregon learn more profitable ways to farm on less land .
If the politicians are unable to behave themselves in Parliament with their discussion,we all fighting a losing battle but thumbs up to those who keep trying.
Malema and his glass of water are tragic and funny at the same time
Some impressive INDUSTRIAL FARMING THERE. I will bet Money that it will not be like that once they redistribute those INDUSTRIAL FARMS. I think it would be a valid statement to say. If will be another Zimbabwe, with a collapsed economy and hyper inflation.
South Africa was impressive economically... white farmers are now farming Mozambique, Kenya and rep. of Congo...
Yu´re right; SA will go the way of dear ol´Zim, unfortunately.
Redistribution lol I’d burn all the buildings and vehicles blow up all the dams , wells and machinery and say there ya go start out the same as farmers did
@@spannaspinna In the Grand Scheme of things, "That Would Not Be Fair"...!
How many being over taken by iss?
The University should have classes in ALL, some in IsiZulu, some in IsiXhosa, some in English, and Some in Afrikaans.
That is what most Afrikaans groups were pushing for. Instead of removing Afrikaans, why not make teaching available in all 11 languages. That aparently is to difficualt for them to do, so instead they remove Afrikaans completely and only do English.
Forgiveness is the only path forward. Revenge for what happened 22 years ago will only make things worse
Can anyone point to where I can get unbiased information about this?
Nowhere unfortunately
No shortcuts, unfortunately. One method would be to live a couple of years in South Africa, another would be to do some in depth online research. The MSM and most popular platforms will only give you a rather warped idea of our true history.