Salute to the lady for hustling hard out there. She's a bus driver, runs a food stand & contributes to the radio station giving recipe tips sometimes at the beginning or end of her shift at the bus company. All she wants to do is make money. Very inspiring to anybody trying to create something against odds.
More people in Sa should watch this video. You get a lot of people complaining about our country and always tell us they would migrate..if its like this out there , is it worth it? I dnt think so.
As a expatriate South African of thirty odd years my advice to all immigrants is to start life all over again in a small town and grow with the town, my wife arrived here two years ahead of me and was adopted by the small town folk who made it easy for us to adapt after coming from a big city, good luck and Welkom.
All of the South Africans and Zimbabweans that I have come across in New Zealand, both black and white, have come with much needed skills. We welcome you, and your work and study ethic here. You add value to our economy and I have yet to meet one who bludges off social welfare. It has been great to see so many of you leave behind, and shake off the worst of the racist baggage that your new SA government seems intent on imprinting on all of it's citizens. Wishing you all peace as you settle into Kiwi culture.
They weren't as hard working in South Africa. They're doing jobs in New Zealand that they wouldn't have touched in South Africa. It's glorious to see the racists struggling
Oh that remark most definately sounds as if it comes from Dunedin the home WHITE EXTREMISM in Aotearoa New Zealand. Gotta watch your racist fat mouth Hone the GCSB is watching and waiting for you and yours to rear your ugly heads...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH...HEHEHEEHEEHEHE. About time it did too.
@@Thomas2Chill i am a coloured and yet now they make more than you ever will i have a white friend who moved to austrailia and he doesent struggle he gets paid 3 times as much as he did here and i dont mean more if you take the dollar next to the rand i am thinking of moving to you black racist are getting on everyones nerve coloured white indian and all
We immigrated from the Eastern Cape. We are in our seventies and have not struggled to integrate at all. Best decision of our lives. The only advice we would give is this: when you leave South Africa, LEAVE IT BEHIND YOU and embrace your new country's culture. We love NZ, have no criticisms. We cannot wait to become full citizens. Thank you Aotearoa for allowing us to come into this beautiful land!
@@emmanuelbediako7682 you clearly a moron.. aborigines are from Australia not Nz. Go educate yourself an empower yourself an stop blaming others for you downfalls…
@@emmanuelbediako7682 please post your legal evidence of these particular families being responsible for terrorism. The TRC is still doing this off you go..
As a pacific islander, the South Africans I've met have been awesome and I am yet to meet one that has a problem integrating. There are bad apples in every community.
Your last sentence speaks volumes Beaz. The ignorance and racism on this thread is, I suppose ironically, astounding. I wonder if all the bigots posting here claim to be conscious and aware and democratic in their spare time.
The homosexual who is complaining is lashing out because he fears them and their ethnic unity. Notice that he’d never utter a complaint to any non-Europeans that behave in the cohesive manners that the Afrikaners do.
In my N.Z. workplace some White Sth Africans considered Maori racially inferior. Many were ex-cops and wouldn't cut the mustard as cops in N.Z. and were accustomed to being Inspectors in S.A. but were merely on the bottom rung in N.Z. They often arrogant pricks who were keen on assaulting other staff and "clients," and sparks would fly if a more senior Maori officer would give orders to an ex-cop Jaape.
I've met and deal with ex pat South Africans on a regular basis for at least 30 years in business and sport, most are wealthy and white and despite the attempts at integration and acceptance of the Maori culture there are always undertones of racism in what they say about "back home" in terms of politics, other things like gardeners and cleaners are soooo expensive here
Its true. The South African who emigrate are usually the ones who are colonialist in thinking. And I'm glad that they're leaving because the rest of South Africa can integrate & build together.
This was our life,I started my own auto workshop,was well supported by some wonderful kiwis, just remember life does not carry on where it left off in RSA, have been gone since 96 now in Australia, but thank you NZ still love you guys
Go to another country, embrace, respect, their culture. Not hard to understand eh? You don't come to another country and push your ways and will on their people. Integrate or go home. This is exactly why we are having problems in every damn country. Bloody hell, this pisses me the heck off.
It's no different to Zimbabwean academics who moved to South Africa and ended up selling fruit in the streets because they couldn't find jobs. They've also become like Somalians and Ethiopians who own little shops downtown.They went from comfortable upper class lifestyles in South Africa to lower middle class living from paycheck to paycheck.
Shem I felt sorry for the lady who was so happy she got a job as a bus driver. It's very rare to see a white south African working as a bus driver in South Africa.
I am Maori, my wife is South African and my kids were born in Australia (I've got the Tri-Nations at my place lol). I have been to South Africa many times and I have found the people very friendly, even when I rag them about the All Blacks. They are a very staunch, proud people with a long history and now many feel displaced since the fall of apartheid. They're still trying to find their place in the world and it hasn't been easy for them. Patience on both sides is called for...patience and understanding. I love South Africans...especially during rugby season lol
Feel misplaced since they stopped killing and oppressing Africans and forceful taking their land and resources , huh, so pathetic and disgusting , how can someone be upset because their opportunity to do evil was taken away?
I have no idea why South Africans are moving to NZ! Why go to a place that does not need you nor want you there??!! I am South African and I'm committed to staying in my country and being part of the solution rather than part of the problem. I'm helping my African employees get their kids through school and college.....if I were to leave...who would help them? Certainly not our corrupt government! I am needed in this flawed country I call home!
If I got burgled three times in a row and got part of my family murdered, I wouldn't have stayed one second in whatever was my home country. I'd get the hell out of there. I understand them. Living with that kind of heavy security and worry all the time, is no way to live. Also I can't see any political solution to what South Africa is facing today. When wealth is as strongly divided by ethnicity it is very hard to avoid populist politics ruling the day in any country. That will lead to bad government. South Africa is not alone in this. You see the same in South America where they jump from one populist government to another, never getting society on the right track. I am sure things will work out in the end. I just don't think it will happen in a generation, which is what will matter for most people.
I was born in NZ and I've met so many nice South Africans in my life. Basically all of the good science teachers at my schools were SA too. I hope they are all going well.
I'm Aussie when I leave my Country I leave to get away from the culture, people and the way of life. Its exciting taking up new languages, playing different sports and just taking in the ways of the locals, when I see Australians abroad I just don't want anything to do with them. When emigrating to another Country leave your old life in your old Country as living your old life in your new Country is a recipe for misery.
I love how this documentary is just sharing the experiences good and bad honestly. No agenda like our 2018 world :) Would be great if they can do a follow up now a few years later :)
Thank you chandre. I can't quite believe how much hate-speak and sheer ignorance finds its way to this page. I'd love to do a follow up. But don't work for Carte blanche anymore.
"they tend to cluster together" :-) yup there is some truth to that. But part of it is that any immigrant to a new home settles where they land, and newcomers are uncertain of what to expect so seek out ex-Saffers, and that becomes habitual. (We consciously sought to settle where we were not in a Saffer community, but chose wisely and many followed us instead.) So few folk have been shot at outside of ZA, so we are commonly a little traumatised and find solace in mutual understanding. I am so 'bleery' happy that I have not had anyone shoot at me in the last 13 years. Auckland is home, it is truly where my heart is. (And my wife who survived the stress of immigrating here with me is still my soulmate.)
poor migrant cluster cos they r different lloking, insecure. but givnen s african r same europaen stock of people, there is no need. look wehere they r they want to be seprate? and in charge?
Its sad! I watch a guy named BI on youtube who goes around feeding the poor. Its a blessing to have him but what about the rest of the starving country. If only the government made it affordable to live in S.A than crime wouldn't be so high! Giving my prayers & blessings from *Auckland City*
He’s a very compassionate person among a huge country with a lot of heartless psychopaths who crave things and will get them any way they can. That’s what’s unfortunate about that country which could be a world powerhouse if the right people were in charge.
You people are like spoiled kids ......those people ancestor where there for centuries you people do the same thing wherever you go and the big thing is you want everyone to think your so brilliant and that the blacks can't do anything. When it's really boils down to conditioning. They should go back and fix there mess. Leaving is the worse thing you can do. You just run away from your problems sure go to NZ the problem still persists in the mind of the runner to poison somewhere else👏👏👏
@@jasonpeters2286 Spoiled kids..? I think 'my' people see the writing on the wall. They fear for their lives on a daily basis, increasingly are falling into poverty and watching the country continue to slowly slip towards total chaos. Whites no longer have control over the political reality in SA and we're seeing what that means for SA...
@@Harry-wb7uv "fear for their lives?" lol spineless cowards ........have you no courage to rebuild SA after plowing her for so long. After raping SA for about half a century with the European scramble for Africa you now fear for your lifes? Don't even reply back I'm having a conversation with people who systematicly defile a woman strip her of her dignity leaving her with several bastard children and she now is a little pissed off she now wants a little compensation and you say you fear for your lives? #SAmetoo #africametoo South Africa was like a little black girl that you whites found playing in a field on her own and you decide to have your way with her getting her pregnant she is now in her last trimester she is feeling some labour pains!!! Man the fuck up!!! She be taking the white cock for years she is now preparing to give birth!!! It's a jerk move to now flee because she is bitching a little don't you think......what are they afraid of? A few scratches lol
zalabeta lefty if you don't want to work don't work go back to socialism and enjoy handouts, don't worry jacinda will look after you Racism coming out much
What are you on about? I’m an ACT voter. Socialism has got nothing to do with his comment nor racism. He just recognised a national trait. South Africans are generally assertive (some perceive as arrogant) and it can rub us native born the wrong way. Its not some big or foundational criticism. Its just an observation. Geez so sensitive is that also a national trait of SA?
Yes i heard that....lol. In new zeal and australia Theres what they call tall poppy syndrome and south africans like being tall poppies😂 which explains the assertive nature bcs to become a tall poppy takes firmness to get stuff done and fast
@@jgribhamnz its not a national trait. its dutch descendants who identify As south Africans that have an attitude towards what they don't know. very intolerant
People struggle in every society when coming from a foreign countries and usually move among people that share their language and values. That hairdresser just explained a typical American city.
Good on them for finding peace and happiness. I'll never leave though, regardless of what happens here. This is my country, you know? It's worse in some other countries, better in others. God bless them and the people who welcome them.
@@angryblackman857 Why not? I'm assuming you think I'm white based off my name. Well mate, that's a pseudonym. I'm black as can be. Stop being hateful. Our white South Africans are just as South African as us non-whites. I'm not a racist black man like you.
Marko Marko. Us older geezers remember that around 1970 when we were ready to have kids, the "experts" were telling us that it was "irresponsible" to have more than two children. If we had more than two children, we would use up all the available resources. So could this have been a strategic damping down of white birth rates, as a way of implementing the Kalergi Plan? So that the Turks, a temporarily secular, semi-westernized nation could re-infiltrate the eastern end of Europe, because Germany especially was running out of men due to WW II. Re-infiltrate just as the Ottomans did in the 1600's, except more stealthily. Europe, always the cheapskate, is now pumping a shitload of money (collected from working taxpayers) into the Muslim and African hordes. Unemployable, illiterate, useful only to disrupt civilization and create chaos, just like Kalergi planned. Your thoughts, please.
As someone with Afrikaaner connections, it is clear that refugee status IS NOT the answer. A mass exodus of white Africaaners IS NOT the solution. It is totally impractical & dangerous. The best solution is for an independent Western Cape - the Cape Republic. ANC admitted that if a referendum was held the people would support it. The future of South Africa is autonamy among ethnic & tribal lines, i.e. KwaZulu-Natalia, Lesotho, Swaziland, etc.
I've met heaps of South Africans here in Australia and for the most part have always got along fine with them. They do have a forward and almost abrupt communication style which differs from that of the average Aussie, Kiwi or American for that matter
As a Norwegian I understand what this means. Scandinavians, Dutch and Germans are more direct and matter of factly. There is less beating about the bush. I think it is also severely misunderstood by most anglo-saxons. They interpret it often as a form of rudeness or arrogance. I've listened to people of different origin complain about dutch behavior in the Netherlands, while they did not realize my culture was exactly the same. So I got an insight into how foreigners view the germanic behavior. I must say in general it is very misunderstood. People assume entirely different intentions by germanic people than what was actually their intention. It is a bit arrogant of anglo-saxons I think to assume that just because you are white, you must perceive the world the same way as them. Somehow they seem to have less issues with say Chinese, Japanese or Indians behaving entirely different.
That's called arrogance i have met some nice SAFs (white), they have come to Nz as they should to start a new life not ram their racist shit down our throats! Fuck No!!
@@stikupartist3698 you have no idea what your talking about. People have listen to media controlled by people who want to paint the Afrikaner as all bad. But what people fail to realize is that a large amount of Afrikaners apposed Apartheid. People are not their governments
They are in a foreign land and now want to speak afrikaans there.They must speak English! Not long they will want afrikaans only schools and .Infact they have already started waving SA flag.Later it will be the Vierkleur flag!
@NXM twisted history you only saw Khoi sans in the Western side but Eastern side there was always people like Nguni's Ndebele's Zulu's Xhosa's Swati's Northern Side Sotho's Nguni's have a lil bit of Khoi words and you are 100% European nothing African about you.
I've gone to school and worked with a few South Africans. Both Afrikaans and English descent. They were all good folks, got along with the Maori and islanders just fine. One thing to note. They had all left South Africa because of the crime. The school age ones were amazed when they arrived that you could walk down the street by yourself in daylight or at all after dark, let alone by yourself after dark! You just didn't do that where they lived. Yes they did look sideways at our darker skinned people when they arrived, which I think is understandable, given their experiences. But they came around pretty soon. Rugby had a lot to do with that. Gave people a common interest in which to get to know each other.
Welcome to my country Aotearoa New Zealand from a Maori if you're hearts in the right place and love us we well love you back even more that is the way we Maori are take care bye
Almost every single white South African I've ever met were kind, gentle people. I still remember my geography teacher in high school was from South Africa and he was one of the best teachers I ever had. I got a good grade in that class because of him.
@@faithfull1743 Yes how your leaders as well as many black leaders from African states decades ago got their education and degrees in South Africa hey!
I love the way the one ‘poppie’ says that her biggest issue is getting shoes. Maybe she must not go to Payless. Lovely that the bus driver lady opened a ‘tuisnywerheid’.
south african will never adaop,because they cannot believe that they have fallen,or that their great empire they own in south africa has fallen.while in south africa,they lived like kings and queens,they were always on top of the world,and now they have to struggle to adapt somewhere.what you sow is what you reap.
Wooly Zizi when you have personally experienced the horrors of lived in South Africa, you will have the right to make comments like this. The white people who did well there were those that studied, understood business, worked hard to make a decent income and invested wisely. Since the takeover of South Africa by black leaders, the country has fallen because the Communist driven, extremely corrupt ANC government have plundered everything they can. South Africa Airways has gone into liquidation while it's managers paid themselves millions! Municipalities have gone bankrupt. Hospitals are in serious financial difficulties. ESKOM (Electricity supply) is bankrupted. The list is endless. The government racist BEE (black economic empowerment) has all but blocked whites from getting jobs. As a result, the standards of life has plummeted. Crime of all kinds is completely out of control, the police are constantly being caught for corruption and in some parts of the country unemployment is as high as 90%. Farmers are being murdered daily and corrupt president Ramaphosa says its not happening. Apartheid ended many years ago and the 'majority' now run the show. They have had ample time and opportunity to build the country into a successful nation but they have failed dismally. The results speak for themselves. You go live there for a year and you will see for yourself that what is happening there has nothing to do with apartheid or white rule but everything to do with ignorance, low productivity and creeping Communism. Then you can comment in all honesty. And if you are an ex-South African living in NZ, I'd ask why did you not stay there?
Greetings from Canada. I have a South African friend whose brother back home was murdered in a car jacking. He returns to SA only to visit surviving family, and takes many security precautions when he does. It's sad to see people driven out of their homeland by crime.
I can relate to this I was born in the UK but left when I was 2 years old and spent 18 years living in South Africa. We are now back in the UK and I miss the South African culture very much. South Africa has a magic which is very hard to leave behind . There are a lot of South Africans here in the UK now and a lot of South African shops so we can still get our SA fixes . There are also a lot of SA events we can go to just to bring that South African magic back once in awhile.
I'm a kiwi samoan I'm bless to have South African friends. They are very relatable and friendly people. Mad on rugby and cricket will only support nz if not playing against the motherland. Love listening to their accent and the coolest thing we all go to church , this is more I could say about the majority of my friends. Welcome to Aotearoa.
Very ironic. I know of hundred of cape coloureds who left for New Zeeland under Apartheid.They all did well. But are they invisible their too.If not then why don't you interview them Theirs lots of Brown Capetownians there since the sixties.
Heidi don't be stupid and gullible this is a lefty liberal subversive video don't you get it? they are not these immigrants friends they are running them down on the side get it duh ZZZzzz lefties aren't the brightest
I am a south-african married to a austrian, when we came to live in austria permanantly, my husband had a more difficult time than me. My children (german speaking) hated the chance, the only one that loved it was me, I could go and have piano lessons,singing lessons, and go and have coffee in a palace, see art exibitions- I think it depends on a person, I basicly had to pull everyone allong. Hope you really try hard to be happy, its not so difficult, loves and hugs.
My dear unknown friend, reading what you wrote is so refreshing, a lovely change from all the negative crap I have read so far from folk who really have no idea what it is like to rearrange ones life in a new place.. Yes it does take two to Tango, but then again, you can dance with your imagination, the partner with you till death xxxx
@Soso Mama Its always dfificult in the beginning, its a new way of living, there is so many things you could do here that is not possible in south-africa. I wish you good luck.
honestly life is the same everywhere if you see it in contact of the universe. does it really matter if you know that your life is in the hand of nature. we are just stupid pretenders. best is to treat everybody equally with love and understanding. at the end day we should all know that no one is exceptional in the universe. like the simple bacteria like complex life (including humans). we are just event of nature. there is no God but nature.
Have no problem with sth Africans migrating to my country.. both love rugby, have nice looking woman lol (we need some trust me )👌🏽 as long as you integrate and not try build your own SA here
Lol that's exactly what they plan on doing. SA flags, SA branded shops and they want to only live amongst themselves. This sounds way toooo familiar! Luckily the ones on this video clip aren't branding their shops with old apartheid flags.
But they don't integrate they think for some disillusioned reason they are superior and form there own Saffa Colonys in Brown's Bay etc. It's so obvious they just want to bail from the nightmare they created in their own shit hole of a country. I'm not buying it one bit.
@@sandraobrien8705 Yeah let's keep letting others into the country and housing all of them before our own right?? Keep parents who both work full time jobs living in their cars WITH THEIR CHILDREN right?...WHILE PEOPLE JUST FLY ON IN AND GET RENTALS WITH EASE right?..This is why you do not speak for all NewZealanders. It's easy to sit there with a roof over your head saying "yeah sure your welcome in our lovely country! 🙂🙂🙂 fly more people into the country its no problem!"..while people out here are 2nd priority to people who just got off a plane ffs. There's over 4000 people living in motels and its safe to say i speak for more NZ's than you and you fkn know it!
@@NZSUBZERO The truth is the housing market is out of control and rental market is dire, I think that is something immigrants are not always aware of. There are not enough houses to go round, a lot of homes on the market are single glazed, mouldy, poorly insulated and should have been pulled down 20 years ago, yet prices are through the roof. These days a lot of homes go under the hammer with auctions won by overseas buyers at astronomical inflated prices which do not reflect NZ wages or the condition of the properties. It is difficult to get on the property ladder, also as a new immigrant, if you cannot bring a hefty down payment with you. New homes are constantly being built but cannot keep up with demand. Something else immigrants are probably not told at embassy info evenings is what it is like to rent here. Typically you need to apply online with 2 references and of course they prefer NZ references. It can be hard to get a good place with a responsible landlord/property agent. They are ridiculously overpriced for what you get. Expect to pay a lot for a modern build with double glazing and heatpump, in particular in Wgtn or Akl.Auckland prices are through the roof. Renting is tough, for the most part you cannot keep pets. You may get the home filthy with an overgrown, unkempt garden but have to leave it thoroughly cleaned, garden weeded and maintained.You have an inspection 4x year where the property agent photographs every room, the garage, exterior of the house. They want everything clean and tidy, lawns mowed, garden weeded eyc. It is very intrusive. You can find yourself without a home at short notice. The renter has little protection. The law entirely favours the landlord and many Kiwis have multiple houses as investments which they do not maintain or fix. Repairs are often not carried out. The law changed recently such that you are now permitted to hang up pictures but unlike other countries, you are not encouraged to think of a rental property as your home, there is next to no security that you can stay there longer term, there is little you can do to get a landlord to fix anything that needs repairs and the landlord can enter your rental anytime after giving 48 hours notice. I've lived in many countries and nowhere had such awful conditions for the renter. So it pays to keep all that in mind when weighing up a move.
@@sandraobrien8705 I agree with alot of what you said Sandra and I apologize for the language and how I came aross. It just pisses me off that there are so many hard working kiwi's out there that are pushed to the side (alot of slack bludgers in the mix aswell) The house next to me was up for rent and put in trademe 6months ago. An Indian couple got the rental over the 1700 people in hawkesbay camped up in motels. I get along with my new neighbors and they are good people but the fact of the matter is...it should be the other way around, that's all I'm saying 🤷🏻♂
Its extremely sad that this is happening. It should've never happened. These people should be able to live in their own countries. Free from harm and pain. Overtime, the south African culture will diminish and therefore blend in with the new culture.
I really doubt that. Majority of South Africans still reside in South Africa and take the upkeep of their culture very seriously. We just need to figure out how to keep our diversity alive whilst still integrating.
They have the right to preserve their culture. I’ve polish American friends that are more than 5 generations there but they always celebrate their heritage.
I remember moving to the US over 30 years ago. Got to speak to a fellow white Zimbabwean on the phone. He invited my husband and I to his house, but almost died of heart failure when he discovered we were of mixed race.😄😄😄 His loss though, we could have helped him and his wife out in so many ways. They need to learn, that people live together in harmony abroad.
🤣🤣 Omd I’m not surprised. They’re used to people of colour being they’re workers etc Getting help from them is like the worst thing they can ever imagine
Ironically... I was born in then Rhodesia (Salisbury) til 4 years old then my parents moved to Lusaka (Zambia - then Northern Rhodesia)... And loved the local Indigeny and highly respected all from different tribal groups... Down to SA in 1961 - learnt Afrikaans and suffered through dreaded Apartheid thuggery... My one niece is married to an isiXhosa who we all adore and they have two children... My parents instilled a non-prejudicial, respectful attitude into all of us... South Africa is going through a tough time due to corrupt politicians... Sadly locals are not being catered to but life is definitely more equal now and improving somewhat... POLITICIANS... Like BABIES NAPPIES must be changed REGULARLY AND FOR the SAME REASON...
I have never been to South Africa or New Zealand but I do like learning about different countries and different cultures very cool unfortunately I guess immigration is tough no matter where you go
I've had the worst Afrikaner experiences here in SA .... you have no idea of their arrogance.... I can't believe they take it with them when they love this country...
if you emigrate looking back over your shoulder, you'll never settle in your new home. I say this as an English expat: it took me 27 years (and counting) to realise it.
I'm a 3rd generation white NZer and invariably find the Sth Africans that have moved here are a breath of fresh air ! They have a no nonsense way of looking at things , are grateful to be here , work hard and some humble themselves in occupations that they would never have done in Sth Africa . I wish them all a good future here in Aotearoa ....🐬
South Africans are such a great people, their enterprising spirit and Love of Liberty bring countless benefits to any Country they chose to live in and contribute to!
@@iskaykabeya609 Thats exactly what many blacks say about their own kind in government, want to see pics of them carrying the posters saying exactly that?
Here in Germany we have many of them, too. As a convinced and proud Southerner, they are some of the best conversation partners I can imagine, especially when politics is the topic!
@@mazibukomail Starving for unity and nation building. Guess it will never happen. The way I see it there is too much Black and White hatred and this will never go away for generations to come.
@apokalypse 2016 The biggest problem is that White South Africans, because of apartheid could possibly viewed internationally as a White Supremist race of the Ku Klax Klan ideologies. The Suidlanders is a White group in South Africa undergoing training in order to defend farm properties which is believed to be under attack by blacks in South Africa. It is not clear whether the attacks is criminal intent or politically motivated. Neo Nazi Alt Right White supremist Islamophobia movement is an international movement. The Suidlanders could possibly be seen connected to this movement by the European community. Therefore i agree with you that it is quite possible that the European world may not want to grant political asylum to White South Africans based on apartheid's White supremist ideologies and the possible link to the Neo Nazi Alt Right White supremist Islamophobia terrorists organization. What makes it worst for white South Africans is that Brenton Tarrent the shooter of the Christchurch massacre of Muslims is being investigated to a possible connection to the ALT Right movement. If there is a Suidlanders link to this organization, it is definitely not helping White South Africans internationally Ernst Roets of Afriforum is presently in USA lobbying for support to stop the expropriating of the farms and Simon Roche the leader of the Suidlanders is also there for. I leave that to your imagination.
Nz prides on Maori heritage...south Africans should know the local culture before thinking of imposing their preconceived notions. They should be grateful to be well received
vukken99 According to Goosen, research at RRL was focused on developing a “bacterial agent that would selectively kill black people.” Goosen stated that the project and the program had been described by South Africa’s then Surgeon General, Dr. Neil Knoble, as “the most important project for the country.” Goosen himself had plenty of faith in the ability to create this type of weapon. In fact, he even claimed that an unknown European scientist had already developed a strain of bacteria capable of “only affecting, making sick, and killing pigmented people” as far back as the early 1980s. “Under oath, Goosen went on to state that the government could have used such a weapon as a ‘negotiation back-up’ (to stay in power) and to ‘maintain peace’ (between local whites and blacks),” writes Singh.
I know a south African elderly man who we worked in the same company in Auckland. He is a very decent gentleman but once I have said: 'Was that so bad in S.A?' His eyes were like fireballs and became furious.... I know he has no offence intention to me as a asian man. But I could learn his past was creepy or even horrible stories he has experienced when he was young and being a soldier. He lost everything in S.A. fled to this country to spend the rest of his life, may God bless this man.
this is great you all look happy around other whites. which means more room for me when i return to Africa my family can work farmlands like no one else.
Eva F. Which Europe , you need to be precise. And as far I’m concerned I don’t know any single African who owns land as big as the city of Paris or London , and who claims that his ancestors left it to him.
The irony of those women singing in Nguni languages when most don't deal with Africans in a real way in RSA is laughable. Sing Die Stem and get over it.
I thought i was the only one who noticed, the culture they take on is other people's culture but they don't want to deal with the people. Intresting indeed
Us South Africans are bit arrogant, but it's because we're big fish in a small pond, but it's innocuous mostly. We're also very independent and entrepreneurial.
@@zororondigger3778 Actually, if you do some research, you will find that apartheid was a Sunday school picnic compared to life in any other country on the African continent. There is a very long list of violent African dictators, from Austria to Auckland, many of whom committed some of the worst violations of human rights known to mankind.
"Even though SA is in a critical state, we still operate under the assumption that "it will never happen here". But that's what the Venezuelans thought too. Hearing their story first-hand was a reality check. Because Venezuela's early warning signs are flashing in SA." - Mmusi Maimane - 23 October 2018
@@ayandampolweni17 I believe it has come to pass, as seen with 12 million signing up for a free R350 government unemployment grant which will not be possible to sustain. 99% of Cubans earn R350 per month for working full time.
If u are a Maori then those white South Africans think of as being just another blackie .If u are white Ihope that u are not as racists as white South Africans
@@sheriffmoola3456 Stop talking kak, and get over yourself. The Maoris are a strong nation, and we South Africans respect them. They also don't play the race card at every opportunity, and they take responsibility. You tend to generalise all white South Africans, and that is ignorance to the full extent. I take it you have personally met each and every white English/Afrikaans speaking South African?
Shame man, it must be really difficult. Change is good but very difficult... The crime level is a very a very serious concern unfortunately and it's sad to lose good people to that.
Mr Clarkson do a video on that I have not heard about that but I know a bunch of people that would subscribe to a channel that did post videos about that
Jasper Stone Chronicles New Zealand is a melting pot. Our Maori people are lovely looking, kind and generous. When white and Maori get together we make beautiful children. Everyone should be of mixed race. A great step to end racism.
We are happy for them... please invite the rest of your families too... dont leave them behind. All the best to New Zealand and the native people there.
Please remember there are not even enough Job's for us whom were Born here so to whine about it is disrespectful ,We welcome all here! I know a couple from Church who fled S.A. because of the violence over there and they love it here and can't believe how nice and peaceful it really is ☺. I have to admit they do come across a tad grumpy haha ☺☺☺☺.But Welcome to your new Home xxx.
Your kindness is noted with appreciation. Even though I am a South African and not an immigrant, I am touched by your attitude. This is how we need to be there for one another. May God bless you!
Oorblyfsel Volk Oorblyfsel Geloof Amen,None of us own this world and imagine a world where we are all welcome in each others Countries ☺.Us kiwis are pretty laid back all are Welcome here it's the kiwi way ☺
I recall a few decades back when many Kiwis emigrated to South Africa because of NZ's economic woes and the limited opportunities that existed there at the time. They were welcomed with open arms.
thank you for the limited remark just please remember we do appreciate that they let us in new Zealand, but as far as grumpy! never ever forget we are refugees and I think its a miracle that we are still normal after seeing our people that forcefully have to watch there mothers eyes cut out as if she is a love of bread please remember why they are there where else can we go? every one of the word media outlets ignore this good day to you
What is it about many South Africans "Afrikaners in particular" always ending up being hated by people in their host countries? Seriously this extends from England to New Zealand to Argentina, and everytime i get complaints about South Africans it's almost always a racist Afrikaner starting shit. Now i'm not saying this extends to all South Africans, or all Afrikaners for that matter, i'm just speaking out based on experience and the constant complaints i'm usually bombarded with.
I hear you Dawood, and thank you for not generalizing. Among those that fled were certain, racist and arrogant types, and they hopefully will learn and change their thinking. I'm convinced most will, through immersion in a non-racial society - it's inevitable.
I've commented on here before about South Africans. I've known alot growing up in NZ. They are good people... hard workers. I've nothing but good things to say about them but one thing... they're really racist towards each other. When I was with white SAs all they'd do was go on about Black SAs. And when I was with Black SAs all theyd do was go on about White SAs. They have bad blood between them. All I ask is they don't bring that hatred here.
The racism tends to be context sensitive. You'll notice that black south africans have no issue with white new zealanders. And white south africans have nothing bad to say about maori or islanders. During the 1995 world cup in South Africa, there was nothing but respect and awe for Lomu, for instance. As far as I can tell, decades of very bad political arrangements have artificially created enmity between the different groups in South Africa. Politicians, old and new, thrive on a divide and conquer strategy.
These are the same people who didnt want to intergrate with the people of their country of birth. What makes you think that will change when moving abroad? Same thing in the UK....they have their afrikaner get togethers and very rarely mix with the british. "A leopard can not change its spots"
Thats how people are, they think and act in clans. Not only an issue for the Boers. All national or groupe feeling is finaly disturbing a full integration. Just name them, all over the world people tend to look for sortwise. The main issue is not that but the willing of immigrants to participate fully in their new country with its new mentality. Many want to do that, some don't and start something completly new like the creation of Orania in SA. As long as they follow the rules of the human rights movement no harm done.
All Dutch/Afrikaans are good people. they are nice people and hearty farmer attitudes i like them very much. Very Understanding of our Culture in New Zealand. they're very respectful my door is always open to them. and im Maori hard.
The society and language in Holland is too different from what they are used to. New Zealand is a closer match and easier to move to. Most South Africans are fluent in English and New Zealand has a very good reputation in South Africa... that's what I think anyways...
@@shameel2625 False information. ALL OF Indians left Uganda to return to India. Over 3000 South African Indian businessmen left for India while the professional technical Indian engineers left for Australia, the middle East (Gulf) and Canada.
3:55 its tough to show empathy now knowing fully well that when they had power they showed none. I pray that the mercy they showed the natives be shown back to them
Look at South Africa now. Blacks running the show for 28 years and things are only getting worse. SA is a shithole being run into the ground. Its difficult to not call your opinion stupid, when a black co worker of mine from SA told me he had it better during apartheid compared to now.
Isn't it obvious? Boers are going through nothing short of a genocide right now and the fact you have to ask "who is they?" speaks volumes regarding how uninformed the rest of the world is on the plight of the white South Africans.
@ I'm still asking who are they? O buwa masepa wena...u have no clue , are u even a south African? What about all the black people who are killed by whites in farms...so dont talk nonsense...u know they feed people to the lions? What about that young boy the farmers shot for stealing oranges? Like shoot a young boy? Fuck u
It's funny how life is so tough for them outside South Africa, yet they complain about everything when they are in South Africa. They must all leave our country and leave us in peace. Expropriation of Land without compensation
Wonderful to see so many South Africans thriving in New Zealand. I left South Africa last year and am living in England now. Wherever we Saffas may be it is great to hear news of other Saffas doing well, having a job and decent lifestyle and living in safety. GOD bless you all! ! 😁
After you'll enjoyed apartheid you leave lol Typical weakling
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Chris Clark no sweetie ...we certainly did not mess up the country ......the ANC has messed up the country all on their own . Please don’t blame the white people ...we’ve had nothing to do with the political situation since 1990
I been to that cobbler guy , he’s in browns bay on the shore and also cuts keys. Nice bloke. I also employ two South African panelbeaters and great workers!.
Sub zero playz You seem upset. I’m not from South Africa, and I did not support the apartheid regime, however the way the economy and safety of the nation has gone is completely and absolutely under black rule and yet “the whites” are yet still to blame though they make up just a single digit percentage of the population. The corruption within the government is staggering, and any aid that is given from other countries like the United States or United Kingdom is stolen by government officials and never makes its way to who is in desperate need! Then there’s those who say “the whites” must pay for their people’s actions in the apartheid regime, when many weren’t even born when all of this was going on. The government has failed its people once again, and the economy is beyond repair as this once prosperous economic giant slowly merges into absolute poverty, corruption and destruction. There is little light at the end of the tunnel of South Africa, regardless of ethnicity. However blaming “white people” for the economic collapse and the imploding of the country is not the white mans responsibility.
So glad someone asked! It's the hardest part of producing this insert. Not one of about ten people of colour / mixed race wanted to be interviewed. That happens often. People not wanting to 'put their heads above the parapet', as the saying goes. Or used to - less so now.
The funny thing about this topic is that when it comes to South Africans its always about White & Black war, the Coloured people in SA just sit back have beer, braai & lol while this is all happening😎. Im half maori & half coloured living in SA.
This reminds me when the Bosnians came to the northern part of the US. Many were educated and skilled and had to take jobs as unskilled laborers to make ends meet. There degrees from Bosnia didn't transfer plus the language barrier.
The New Zealanders are one of the most peace loving, great people on this planet. You hardly heard anything negative emanating from their side of the world. However, sooner or later, the newly arrived Afrikaaners will eventually begin to inflict upon the New Zealand citizens the same Ill treatments and atrocities that they committed against the South African Blacks. Starting from taking over the New Zealanders farming land. Then later set up for themselves their own Government that will rule over the New Zealanders. The New Zealanders should BEWARE.
@@patricksweeney5308 NZers of Dutch descent (whose forebears mostly immigrated after WWII, and who are assimilated into the mainstream European NZ culture which is British-based) are not the same as Afrikaners, who have been in South Africa for 400 years and developed their own language and distinct culture over many generations. They're not exclusively of Dutch extraction either - there's also French and German in the mix.
@@cececece5459 How do they feel being married to/befriending fruit? I love Kiwi fruit, but I wouldn' t go as far as marrying it. It must be a very sweet marriage/friendship.
@@cececece5459 yeah. we had this south african boy at our old school, he was extremely nervous so we'd try take him under our wing but felt more comfortable talking to other south africans
Kia Ora I have faith in the People of South Africa to lead the Nation's toward a Just and Fair World Ko Maori ahau I am Maori it is imperative that I should be interested in what is happening in South Africa and watch carefully the forces that would Divide us actively at work in South Africa so that We here in Aotearoa New Zealand would be better prepared for this divisive element entering into Our Colonial History I welcome all you Ex Pat South Africans and thank you all for your hard work and contribution to the health wealth and prosperity of my Nation. We are not perfect but we strive to maintain a fragile peace among us We do find you Ex Pat's Abit stand offish but that is the habit of all New People to another land I do encourage you to cherish your cultural identity language and fascinating customs let us pray for South Africa that as God has predestined be that Nation of Justice and Fairness for All South Africans The Rainbow Nation Hope for a better World not as The Coporate Colonial Masters want but as God has Ordained will be Let's pray for South Africa..... Again welcome to Aotearoa New Zealand Let me be bold and say You may have Left South Africa but I hope you do not Abandon South Africa No reira We wrestle not against flesh and blood but against powers and principalities against the Rulers of this dark world against them who practice spiritual wickedness in high place.
the situation in S.A is very very messed up, the sooner the Afrikaners and the blacks realise that they actually need each other, then change will happen...Such a beautiful country but so much hatred on both sides, what a shame...
I moved from an English speaking nation to country Australia 1969 when Aust was extremely different than my old home. We made a commitment to stay for min 2 years to give it a go. We knew many people that did the same as us that had gone back within 6 mth refusing to try. One of our neighbours didn't have electricity, hot water was heated on a wood stove, NO TV, NO telephone. Many households even in the closest city didn't have a telephone in their home. There was no fast food places. The only non english food was Chinese. I do NOT know any people that live within 500 km that had the same nationality that started with. We assimilated into Australian society. We LOVE IT !!!!! I have a slight accent still and peoples first guess now is Sth African. I get really angry as I detest the racism of white Sth Africans. I feel sorry for New Zealand having a large influx of White South Africans that bring their racism with them (shown by women in the choir). Neither Australia or New Zealand want or need the racism they bring.
Positive, constructive comment thank you. Having visited Australia a few times, with my best friend living there, I have received good insight into the country. Arrogance of new arrivals is resented, obviously, and adopting and absorbing the local culture is the best way of assimilating and making a positive contribution. The 'when we' approach typical of old Rhodesians in SA is never appreciated.
And yet you have no issue with Australians and their sordid treatment of the aboriginal people. South Africa's ACTUAL history pales in comparison but you sound like a typical ignorant virtue signaling liberal. Very selective about your outrage, aren't you? You're so in love with being an Australian yet the current treatment of non white people held in offshore concentration camps- because that's what they are- doesn't seem to bother you. Hypocrite, thanks for correcting people because I don't want anyone thinking you're South African.
Different topic Ange, but laterally relevant. Here i must confess I did not think of that angle. I was focused on South Africans and their attitude when emigrating. But @@angevdw2887raises a good point re Australia's own history. At a museum in Cairns I saw a b&w, 20th century photograph of white australian 'hunters' with their feet on a pile of aboriginals, as early colonial settlers did throughout Africa with wildlife (and contemp hunters still do today). It was only in 1969 that aboriginals were removed from Australia's Fauna and Flora Act. Says a great deal about the country's DNA regarding race and tolerance. Happily it has been turning.
Salute to the lady for hustling hard out there. She's a bus driver, runs a food stand & contributes to the radio station giving recipe tips sometimes at the beginning or end of her shift at the bus company. All she wants to do is make money. Very inspiring to anybody trying to create something against odds.
More people in Sa should watch this video. You get a lot of people complaining about our country and always tell us they would migrate..if its like this out there , is it worth it? I dnt think so.
Couldnt agree more
Well, for humans who dont like much criminality, killing etc is New Zealand a very nice country. But New Zealand is far away from everything.🙃😛😉🙃
As a expatriate South African of thirty odd years my advice to all immigrants is to start life all over again in a small town and grow with the town, my wife arrived here two years ahead of me and was adopted by the small town folk who made it easy for us to adapt after coming from a big city, good luck and Welkom.
As a South African Abroad, I can't help but notice that New Zealand looks exactly like the Western Cape, especially topography. Beautiful
You're in God zone country welcome from me Maori from Aotearoa new Zealand
I know right its wired how they look very similar.
Then stay there and do not go back to South Africa again.
@@mountzion2495 No one wants to live there anyway lol
pour ceux qui m'conaissent pas watch your mouth. don’t say such disgusting words.
All of the South Africans and Zimbabweans that I have come across in New Zealand, both black and white, have come with much needed skills. We welcome you, and your work and study ethic here. You add value to our economy and I have yet to meet one who bludges off social welfare. It has been great to see so many of you leave behind, and shake off the worst of the racist baggage that your new SA government seems intent on imprinting on all of it's citizens. Wishing you all peace as you settle into Kiwi culture.
At last, a rational comment on this site. Thank you Waughthog :)
I love hearing this😊
I'm living in sa and would love to move to nz multi skilled fabricater.
Mostly whites though should come They fit in better
You only let in the high flyers
I’m a security officer would you let me in ?
I miss my son but grant him and his family the freedom and happiness they do not have here Love Dad.
The south Africans look very comfortable in our country..gud on them they very hard working people.
They weren't as hard working in South Africa. They're doing jobs in New Zealand that they wouldn't have touched in South Africa. It's glorious to see the racists struggling
Oh that remark most definately sounds as if it comes from Dunedin the home WHITE EXTREMISM in Aotearoa New Zealand. Gotta watch your racist fat mouth Hone the GCSB is watching and waiting for you and yours to rear your ugly heads...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH...HEHEHEEHEEHEHE. About time it did too.
I agree, come fetch more of them
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@@Thomas2Chill i am a coloured and yet now they make more than you ever will i have a white friend who moved to austrailia and he doesent struggle he gets paid 3 times as much as he did here and i dont mean more if you take the dollar next to the rand i am thinking of moving to you black racist are getting on everyones nerve coloured white indian and all
We immigrated from the Eastern Cape. We are in our seventies and have not struggled to integrate at all. Best decision of our lives. The only advice we would give is this: when you leave South Africa, LEAVE IT BEHIND YOU and embrace your new country's culture. We love NZ, have no criticisms. We cannot wait to become full citizens. Thank you Aotearoa for allowing us to come into this beautiful land!
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Don't mistreat the native aborigines like you treated the blacks in S Africa
@@emmanuelbediako7682 BS
@@emmanuelbediako7682 you clearly a moron.. aborigines are from Australia not Nz.
Go educate yourself an empower yourself an stop blaming others for you downfalls…
@@emmanuelbediako7682 please post your legal evidence of these particular families being responsible for terrorism. The TRC is still doing this off you go..
As a pacific islander, the South Africans I've met have been awesome and I am yet to meet one that has a problem integrating. There are bad apples in every community.
Your last sentence speaks volumes Beaz. The ignorance and racism on this thread is, I suppose ironically, astounding. I wonder if all the bigots posting here claim to be conscious and aware and democratic in their spare time.
@@AfricanStorybook the hypocrisy is amazing!
@@AfricanStorybook Its true though. No matter what ethnic group you belong to there is always going to be a minority of bad people.
The homosexual who is complaining is lashing out because he fears them and their ethnic unity. Notice that he’d never utter a complaint to any non-Europeans that behave in the cohesive manners that the Afrikaners do.
In my N.Z. workplace some White Sth Africans considered Maori racially inferior. Many were ex-cops and wouldn't cut the mustard as cops in N.Z. and were accustomed to being Inspectors in S.A. but were merely on the bottom rung in N.Z. They often arrogant pricks who were keen on assaulting other staff and "clients," and sparks would fly if a more senior Maori officer would give orders to an ex-cop Jaape.
I've met and deal with ex pat South Africans on a regular basis for at least 30 years in business and sport, most are wealthy and white and despite the attempts at integration and acceptance of the Maori culture there are always undertones of racism in what they say about "back home" in terms of politics, other things like gardeners and cleaners are soooo expensive here
Its true. The South African who emigrate are usually the ones who are colonialist in thinking. And I'm glad that they're leaving because the rest of South Africa can integrate & build together.
This was our life,I started my own auto workshop,was well supported by some wonderful kiwis, just remember life does not carry on where it left off in RSA, have been gone since 96 now in Australia, but thank you NZ still love you guys
Go to another country, embrace, respect, their culture. Not hard to understand eh? You don't come to another country and push your ways and will on their people. Integrate or go home. This is exactly why we are having problems in every damn country.
Bloody hell, this pisses me the heck off.
They’re not at all
They can't shake off their apartheid‼️😂
It's no different to Zimbabwean academics who moved to South Africa and ended up selling fruit in the streets because they couldn't find jobs. They've also become like Somalians and Ethiopians who own little shops downtown.They went from comfortable upper class lifestyles in South Africa to lower middle class living from paycheck to paycheck.
Mmala Mokone so daf
So sad
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Shem I felt sorry for the lady who was so happy she got a job as a bus driver. It's very rare to see a white south African working as a bus driver in South Africa.
I am Maori, my wife is South African and my kids were born in Australia (I've got the Tri-Nations at my place lol). I have been to South Africa many times and I have found the people very friendly, even when I rag them about the All Blacks. They are a very staunch, proud people with a long history and now many feel displaced since the fall of apartheid. They're still trying to find their place in the world and it hasn't been easy for them. Patience on both sides is called for...patience and understanding. I love South Africans...especially during rugby season lol
Thanx for the compliment mate, all the best.
Feel misplaced since they stopped killing and oppressing Africans and forceful taking their land and resources , huh, so pathetic and disgusting , how can someone be upset because their opportunity to do evil was taken away?
They will call your children grey & you will never be fully accepted!
@@sammon4364 true
This kind of immigrants are industrious and will do so much to prosper
I have no idea why South Africans are moving to NZ! Why go to a place that does not need you nor want you there??!! I am South African and I'm committed to staying in my country and being part of the solution rather than part of the problem. I'm helping my African employees get their kids through school and college.....if I were to leave...who would help them? Certainly not our corrupt government! I am needed in this flawed country I call home!
Elle W - I love you Elle, well said.
You're a good citizen!
Elle W, Well done my fellow citizen, God will reward you for your caring heart. I love you, God bless you always.
If I got burgled three times in a row and got part of my family murdered, I wouldn't have stayed one second in whatever was my home country. I'd get the hell out of there. I understand them. Living with that kind of heavy security and worry all the time, is no way to live.
Also I can't see any political solution to what South Africa is facing today. When wealth is as strongly divided by ethnicity it is very hard to avoid populist politics ruling the day in any country. That will lead to bad government. South Africa is not alone in this. You see the same in South America where they jump from one populist government to another, never getting society on the right track.
I am sure things will work out in the end. I just don't think it will happen in a generation, which is what will matter for most people.
Good luck. SA seems to be saying the same about you. "Why go to a place that does not need you nor want you there??!!
I was born in NZ and I've met so many nice South Africans in my life. Basically all of the good science teachers at my schools were SA too. I hope they are all going well.
I'm Aussie when I leave my Country I leave to get away from the culture, people and the way of life. Its exciting taking up new languages, playing different sports and just taking in the ways of the locals, when I see Australians abroad I just don't want anything to do with them.
When emigrating to another Country leave your old life in your old Country as living your old life in your new Country is a recipe for misery.
I love how this documentary is just sharing the experiences good and bad honestly. No agenda like our 2018 world :) Would be great if they can do a follow up now a few years later :)
Thank you chandre. I can't quite believe how much hate-speak and sheer ignorance finds its way to this page. I'd love to do a follow up. But don't work for Carte blanche anymore.
Am told a lot of the racism Tauranga Bay is not by Kiwis but white South Africans who import their racism
"they tend to cluster together" :-) yup there is some truth to that. But part of it is that any immigrant to a new home settles where they land, and newcomers are uncertain of what to expect so seek out ex-Saffers, and that becomes habitual. (We consciously sought to settle where we were not in a Saffer community, but chose wisely and many followed us instead.)
So few folk have been shot at outside of ZA, so we are commonly a little traumatised and find solace in mutual understanding. I am so 'bleery' happy that I have not had anyone shoot at me in the last 13 years. Auckland is home, it is truly where my heart is.
(And my wife who survived the stress of immigrating here with me is still my soulmate.)
poor migrant cluster cos they r different lloking, insecure. but givnen s african r same europaen stock of people, there is no need. look wehere they r they want to be seprate? and in charge?
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Its sad! I watch a guy named BI on youtube who goes around feeding the poor. Its a blessing to have him but what about the rest of the starving country. If only the government made it affordable to live in S.A than crime wouldn't be so high! Giving my prayers & blessings from *Auckland City*
Pi?.yes love his channel
He’s a very compassionate person among a huge country with a lot of heartless psychopaths who crave things and will get them any way they can. That’s what’s unfortunate about that country which could be a world powerhouse if the right people were in charge.
Hard working, intelligent, productive and share the same western values. Welcome to NZ!!!
If they where so intelligent why didn't they stay and build SA?
@@jasonpeters2286 Good question. You might want to ponder that a little...
You people are like spoiled kids ......those people ancestor where there for centuries you people do the same thing wherever you go and the big thing is you want everyone to think your so brilliant and that the blacks can't do anything. When it's really boils down to conditioning. They should go back and fix there mess. Leaving is the worse thing you can do. You just run away from your problems sure go to NZ the problem still persists in the mind of the runner to poison somewhere else👏👏👏
@@jasonpeters2286 Spoiled kids..? I think 'my' people see the writing on the wall. They fear for their lives on a daily basis, increasingly are falling into poverty and watching the country continue to slowly slip towards total chaos.
Whites no longer have control over the political reality in SA and we're seeing what that means for SA...
@@Harry-wb7uv "fear for their lives?" lol spineless cowards ........have you no courage to rebuild SA after plowing her for so long. After raping SA for about half a century with the European scramble for Africa you now fear for your lifes? Don't even reply back I'm having a conversation with people who systematicly defile a woman strip her of her dignity leaving her with several bastard children and she now is a little pissed off she now wants a little compensation and you say you fear for your lives? #SAmetoo #africametoo South Africa was like a little black girl that you whites found playing in a field on her own and you decide to have your way with her getting her pregnant she is now in her last trimester she is feeling some labour pains!!! Man the fuck up!!! She be taking the white cock for years she is now preparing to give birth!!! It's a jerk move to now flee because she is bitching a little don't you think......what are they afraid of? A few scratches lol
The old radio guy is right, that assertive attitude doesn't work here......trying to be the boss man with the big stick gets us Kiwis backs up.
zalabeta lefty if you don't want to work don't work go back to socialism and enjoy handouts, don't worry jacinda will look after you Racism coming out much
What are you on about? I’m an ACT voter. Socialism has got nothing to do with his comment nor racism. He just recognised a national trait. South Africans are generally assertive (some perceive as arrogant) and it can rub us native born the wrong way. Its not some big or foundational criticism. Its just an observation. Geez so sensitive is that also a national trait of SA?
Yes i heard that....lol.
In new zeal and australia Theres what they call tall poppy syndrome and south africans like being tall poppies😂 which explains the assertive nature bcs to become a tall poppy takes firmness to get stuff done and fast
@@jgribhamnz its not a national trait. its dutch descendants who identify As south Africans that have an attitude towards what they don't know. very intolerant
@@jgribhamnz maybe they think they are in south Africa. well you gotta live like underdog once in a life time.
Grateful to have met my South African friends. 🇿🇦🇨🇦
Colonizer pig
People struggle in every society when coming from a foreign countries and usually move among people that share their language and values. That hairdresser just explained a typical American city.
Good on them for finding peace and happiness. I'll never leave though, regardless of what happens here. This is my country, you know? It's worse in some other countries, better in others. God bless them and the people who welcome them.
Go back in Europe, south Africa is not your land.
@@angryblackman857 Why not? I'm assuming you think I'm white based off my name. Well mate, that's a pseudonym. I'm black as can be. Stop being hateful. Our white South Africans are just as South African as us non-whites. I'm not a racist black man like you.
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God Bless South African & New Zealand relations!
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Zimbabweans are the one that are killing people in south Africa....they also want to chase white people in south Africa
Better alive and living in NZ than dead in SA.
Over 19,000 murders in S,Africa "reported" in 2016 and over 18,000 attempted murders "reported" in 2016 in a country of 56 million people.
And many parts of Europe are not "stolen" land too?
Get a grip with the truth man.
they were running away from being ruled by a Black President aka Nelson Mandela
Marko Marko. Us older geezers remember that around 1970 when we were ready to have kids, the "experts" were telling us that it was "irresponsible" to have more than two children. If we had more than two children, we would use up all the available resources.
So could this have been a strategic damping down of white birth rates, as a way of implementing the Kalergi Plan?
So that the Turks, a temporarily secular, semi-westernized nation could re-infiltrate the eastern end of Europe, because Germany especially was running out of men due to WW II.
Re-infiltrate just as the Ottomans did in the 1600's, except more stealthily.
Europe, always the cheapskate, is now pumping a shitload of money (collected from working taxpayers) into the Muslim and African hordes. Unemployable, illiterate, useful only to disrupt civilization and create chaos, just like Kalergi planned.
Your thoughts, please.
As someone with Afrikaaner connections, it is clear that refugee status IS NOT the answer. A mass exodus of white Africaaners IS NOT the solution.
It is totally impractical & dangerous. The best solution is for an independent Western Cape - the Cape Republic. ANC admitted that if a referendum was held the people would support it. The future of South Africa is autonamy among ethnic & tribal lines, i.e. KwaZulu-Natalia, Lesotho, Swaziland, etc.
I've met heaps of South Africans here in Australia and for the most part have always got along fine with them. They do have a forward and almost abrupt communication style which differs from that of the average Aussie, Kiwi or American for that matter
That is a typical Dutch influence...often perceived as arrogance, mostly unjust IMO.
As a Norwegian I understand what this means. Scandinavians, Dutch and Germans are more direct and matter of factly. There is less beating about the bush. I think it is also severely misunderstood by most anglo-saxons. They interpret it often as a form of rudeness or arrogance.
I've listened to people of different origin complain about dutch behavior in the Netherlands, while they did not realize my culture was exactly the same. So I got an insight into how foreigners view the germanic behavior. I must say in general it is very misunderstood. People assume entirely different intentions by germanic people than what was actually their intention.
It is a bit arrogant of anglo-saxons I think to assume that just because you are white, you must perceive the world the same way as them. Somehow they seem to have less issues with say Chinese, Japanese or Indians behaving entirely different.
That's called arrogance i have met some nice SAFs (white), they have come to Nz as they should to start a new life not ram their racist shit down our throats! Fuck No!!
Probably a Dutch trait
White race thing
Been in New Zealand 2 years now an we absolutely love it here...
Miss SA at times.. but never looking back... honoured to be in this great country..
You miss your racist brethren?
@@stikupartist3698 you have no idea what your talking about. People have listen to media controlled by people who want to paint the Afrikaner as all bad. But what people fail to realize is that a large amount of Afrikaners apposed Apartheid. People are not their governments
@@stikupartist3698 you have an inferiority complex.
They are in a foreign land and now want to speak afrikaans there.They must speak English! Not long they will want afrikaans only schools and .Infact they have already started waving SA flag.Later it will be the Vierkleur flag!
@@josiahmanganyi5359 isn't that what you colonizers do?
Carole will make it anywhere with her personality and attitude.
I doubt she'd drive a bus in SA. 😕
@@mg_slang lol coz they are privileged here
@NXM Europeans are kings and Queens here in SA who cleans for them of course not whites but Africans.
@NXM what coloure of the khoi san ain't they African
@NXM twisted history you only saw Khoi sans in the Western side but Eastern side there was always people like Nguni's Ndebele's Zulu's Xhosa's Swati's Northern Side Sotho's Nguni's have a lil bit of Khoi words and you are 100% European nothing African about you.
Clustering always occurs in the first generation of immigrants. We saw that in the USA. But the second and third generation want to assimilate.
Not really the Mexicans, Cubans, Jews and Koreans still keep to themselves. It’ll probably take another 2 to 4 generations or so.
Im the child of Brits immigrants to NZ. The Brits cluster together as well. I still cluster to Brits and Im NZ born
@@robosborne5489 Exactly, thank you for the plain down to earth truth.
I've gone to school and worked with a few South Africans. Both Afrikaans and English descent. They were all good folks, got along with the Maori and islanders just fine.
One thing to note. They had all left South Africa because of the crime.
The school age ones were amazed when they arrived that you could walk down the street by yourself in daylight or at all after dark, let alone by yourself after dark!
You just didn't do that where they lived.
Yes they did look sideways at our darker skinned people when they arrived, which I think is understandable, given their experiences.
But they came around pretty soon. Rugby had a lot to do with that. Gave people a common interest in which to get to know each other.
I wish more people were like you and the people you talk of in this world. It would be a much happier place.
I had to scroll down this far to find a positive note.
Thank you for sharing a message that is not full of hatred.
Welcome to my country Aotearoa New Zealand from a Maori if you're hearts in the right place and love us we well love you back even more that is the way we Maori are take care bye
They left SA because of crime? A 400 year old crime was happening and they only noticed in the 90s? Please!
Ngum Ngafor Apartheid was placed in 1948, how’s that possible that it’s been 400 years 😂😂 didn’t do well at maths now did you.. stupid moron
About time NZ capped Immigration and took care of its own ...
They're all flying in and getting rental housing while kiwi's with jobs are sleeping in cars with their families
@@NZSUBZERO Sweeping streets does not really contribute to the economy.
@@NZSUBZERO
💯💯💯💯💯
@@JackSmith-ou1dg Neither does the fact that your mother and father decided to breed 🤷🏻♂
@@NZSUBZERO Your subzero IQ is shining through. In which street sidewalk are you a resident?
Almost every single white South African I've ever met were kind, gentle people. I still remember my geography teacher in high school was from South Africa and he was one of the best teachers I ever had. I got a good grade in that class because of him.
Most of them voted for the apartheid government. They are "kind" to you because you are 'white'.
@@lebogangcampbell3478 segregation for ever!!!!
You must be white. Black South Africans would tell a different story.
@@faithfull1743 Yes how your leaders as well as many black leaders from African states decades ago got their education and degrees in South Africa hey!
@@lebogangcampbell3478 Why do you thinks whites are not kind to you?
I love the way the one ‘poppie’ says that her biggest issue is getting shoes. Maybe she must not go to Payless. Lovely that the bus driver lady opened a ‘tuisnywerheid’.
south african will never adaop,because they cannot believe that they have fallen,or that their great empire they own in south africa has fallen.while in south africa,they lived like kings and queens,they were always on top of the world,and now they have to struggle to adapt somewhere.what you sow is what you reap.
Wooly Zizi when you have personally experienced the horrors of lived in South Africa, you will have the right to make comments like this. The white people who did well there were those that studied, understood business, worked hard to make a decent income and invested wisely. Since the takeover of South Africa by black leaders, the country has fallen because the Communist driven, extremely corrupt ANC government have plundered everything they can. South Africa Airways has gone into liquidation while it's managers paid themselves millions! Municipalities have gone bankrupt. Hospitals are in serious financial difficulties. ESKOM (Electricity supply) is bankrupted. The list is endless. The government racist BEE (black economic empowerment) has all but blocked whites from getting jobs. As a result, the standards of life has plummeted. Crime of all kinds is completely out of control, the police are constantly being caught for corruption and in some parts of the country unemployment is as high as 90%. Farmers are being murdered daily and corrupt president Ramaphosa says its not happening. Apartheid ended many years ago and the 'majority' now run the show. They have had ample time and opportunity to build the country into a successful nation but they have failed dismally. The results speak for themselves. You go live there for a year and you will see for yourself that what is happening there has nothing to do with apartheid or white rule but everything to do with ignorance, low productivity and creeping Communism. Then you can comment in all honesty. And if you are an ex-South African living in NZ, I'd ask why did you not stay there?
Oh so they hate black south Africans but find no problem singing black south African songs and making money of it? . Wtf?
@@LuckyLucky-xp2sz Seems like you're the one full of hate!
Greetings from Canada. I have a South African friend whose brother back home was murdered in a car jacking. He returns to SA only to visit surviving family, and takes many security precautions when he does. It's sad to see people driven out of their homeland by crime.
Mary Cahill Homeland? No honey
@@fullmetaltheorist good riddance
@@de-sh109 Shitonhonka LOL
Ahhh Canada is perfect no crime
Yip that's our new RSA now a filthy,trash house,evil too.
I can relate to this I was born in the UK but left when I was 2 years old and spent 18 years living in South Africa. We are now back in the UK and I miss the South African culture very much. South Africa has a magic which is very hard to leave behind . There are a lot of South Africans here in the UK now and a lot of South African shops so we can still get our SA fixes . There are also a lot of SA events we can go to just to bring that South African magic back once in awhile.
I'm a kiwi samoan I'm bless to have South African friends. They are very relatable and friendly people. Mad on rugby and cricket will only support nz if not playing against the motherland. Love listening to their accent and the coolest thing we all go to church , this is more I could say about the majority of my friends. Welcome to Aotearoa.
hard g
Very ironic. I know of hundred of cape coloureds who left for New Zeeland under Apartheid.They all did well. But are they invisible their too.If not then why don't you interview them
Theirs lots of Brown Capetownians there since the sixties.
I absolutely agree.It's disgraceful that only the white South Africans were interviewed.
White people want to see themselves, in all societies.
Exactly what I was thinking! I would love to hear their voices!!!
Heidi don't be stupid and gullible this is a lefty liberal subversive video don't you get it? they are not these immigrants friends they are running them down on the side get it duh ZZZzzz lefties aren't the brightest
Nadir racist much or just a stupid hypocrite or both
I am a south-african married to a austrian, when we came to live in austria permanantly, my husband had a more difficult time than me. My children (german speaking) hated the chance, the only one that loved it was me, I could go and have piano lessons,singing lessons, and go and have coffee in a palace, see art exibitions- I think it depends on a person, I basicly had to pull everyone allong. Hope you really try hard to be happy, its not so difficult, loves and hugs.
My dear unknown friend, reading what you wrote is so refreshing, a lovely change from all the negative crap I have read so far from folk who really have no idea what it is like to rearrange ones life in a new place.. Yes it does take two to Tango, but then again, you can dance with your imagination, the partner with you till death xxxx
@Soso Mama Its always dfificult in the beginning, its a new way of living, there is so many things you could do here that is not possible in south-africa. I wish you good luck.
honestly life is the same everywhere if you see it in contact of the universe. does it really matter if you know that your life is in the hand of nature. we are just stupid pretenders. best is to treat everybody equally with love and understanding. at the end day we should all know that no one is exceptional in the universe. like the simple bacteria like complex life (including humans). we are just event of nature. there is no God but nature.
Please stay there don’t come back to Africa. You belong in Europe as you’re European
Have no problem with sth Africans migrating to my country.. both love rugby, have nice looking woman lol (we need some trust me )👌🏽 as long as you integrate and not try build your own SA here
Lol that's exactly what they plan on doing. SA flags, SA branded shops and they want to only live amongst themselves. This sounds way toooo familiar! Luckily the ones on this video clip aren't branding their shops with old apartheid flags.
But they don't integrate they think for some disillusioned reason they are superior and form there own Saffa Colonys in Brown's Bay etc. It's so obvious they just want to bail from the nightmare they created in their own shit hole of a country. I'm not buying it one bit.
@@QuotesFromTheMotherland bit like how kiwis in aus have nz fern shown all the time..don't be a hypocrite
That's what New Zealanders did to Maoris.
@@QuotesFromTheMotherland you sound bitter that they are leaving S.A...
My son My son I am very happy for you and yours being accepted in New Zealand .Do your best .My thoughts and love go with you Dad
Your family is very welcome here Bernard
@@sandraobrien8705 You don't speak for all NewZealanders
@@sandraobrien8705 Yeah let's keep letting others into the country and housing all of them before our own right?? Keep parents who both work full time jobs living in their cars WITH THEIR CHILDREN right?...WHILE PEOPLE JUST FLY ON IN AND GET RENTALS WITH EASE right?..This is why you do not speak for all NewZealanders. It's easy to sit there with a roof over your head saying "yeah sure your welcome in our lovely country! 🙂🙂🙂 fly more people into the country its no problem!"..while people out here are 2nd priority to people who just got off a plane ffs. There's over 4000 people living in motels and its safe to say i speak for more NZ's than you and you fkn know it!
@@NZSUBZERO The truth is the housing market is out of control and rental market is dire, I think that is something immigrants are not always aware of. There are not enough houses to go round, a lot of homes on the market are single glazed, mouldy, poorly insulated and should have been pulled down 20 years ago, yet prices are through the roof. These days a lot of homes go under the hammer with auctions won by overseas buyers at astronomical inflated prices which do not reflect NZ wages or the condition of the properties. It is difficult to get on the property ladder, also as a new immigrant, if you cannot bring a hefty down payment with you. New homes are constantly being built but cannot keep up with demand. Something else immigrants are probably not told at embassy info evenings is what it is like to rent here. Typically you need to apply online with 2 references and of course they prefer NZ references. It can be hard to get a good place with a responsible landlord/property agent. They are ridiculously overpriced for what you get. Expect to pay a lot for a modern build with double glazing and heatpump, in particular in Wgtn or Akl.Auckland prices are through the roof. Renting is tough, for the most part you cannot keep pets. You may get the home filthy with an overgrown, unkempt garden but have to leave it thoroughly cleaned, garden weeded and maintained.You have an inspection 4x year where the property agent photographs every room, the garage, exterior of the house. They want everything clean and tidy, lawns mowed, garden weeded eyc. It is very intrusive. You can find yourself without a home at short notice. The renter has little protection. The law entirely favours the landlord and many Kiwis have multiple houses as investments which they do not maintain or fix. Repairs are often not carried out. The law changed recently such that you are now permitted to hang up pictures but unlike other countries, you are not encouraged to think of a rental property as your home, there is next to no security that you can stay there longer term, there is little you can do to get a landlord to fix anything that needs repairs and the landlord can enter your rental anytime after giving 48 hours notice. I've lived in many countries and nowhere had such awful conditions for the renter. So it pays to keep all that in mind when weighing up a move.
@@sandraobrien8705 I agree with alot of what you said Sandra and I apologize for the language and how I came aross. It just pisses me off that there are so many hard working kiwi's out there that are pushed to the side (alot of slack bludgers in the mix aswell) The house next to me was up for rent and put in trademe 6months ago. An Indian couple got the rental over the 1700 people in hawkesbay camped up in motels. I get along with my new neighbors and they are good people but the fact of the matter is...it should be the other way around, that's all I'm saying 🤷🏻♂
Funny thing is in south Africa she wouldn't be caught dead driving a bus🙄
@@khanyiecreates5420 Racist prick!
Its extremely sad that this is happening.
It should've never happened.
These people should be able to live in their own countries. Free from harm and pain.
Overtime, the south African culture will diminish and therefore blend in with the new culture.
Treu my friend
Agreed... very philosophical
I really doubt that. Majority of South Africans still reside in South Africa and take the upkeep of their culture very seriously. We just need to figure out how to keep our diversity alive whilst still integrating.
They have the right to preserve their culture. I’ve polish American friends that are more than 5 generations there but they always celebrate their heritage.
Good riddance
I remember moving to the US over 30 years ago. Got to speak to a fellow white Zimbabwean on the phone. He invited my husband and I to his house, but almost died of heart failure when he discovered we were of mixed race.😄😄😄 His loss though, we could have helped him and his wife out in so many ways. They need to learn, that people live together in harmony abroad.
🤣🤣 Omd I’m not surprised. They’re used to people of colour being they’re workers etc Getting help from them is like the worst thing they can ever imagine
@@junemuch5650 In most western countries whites had and do have whites as their workers, did you know that? Seems not.
Lol their hate is their downfall
Ironically... I was born in then Rhodesia (Salisbury) til 4 years old then my parents moved to Lusaka (Zambia - then Northern Rhodesia)... And loved the local Indigeny and highly respected all from different tribal groups... Down to SA in 1961 - learnt Afrikaans and suffered through dreaded Apartheid thuggery... My one niece is married to an isiXhosa who we all adore and they have two children...
My parents instilled a non-prejudicial, respectful attitude into all of us...
South Africa is going through a tough time due to corrupt politicians... Sadly locals are not being catered to but life is definitely more equal now and improving somewhat...
POLITICIANS... Like BABIES NAPPIES must be changed REGULARLY AND FOR the SAME REASON...
I have never been to South Africa or New Zealand but I do like learning about different countries and different cultures very cool unfortunately I guess immigration is tough no matter where you go
Don't go to South Africa i born there just don't go
i luv my country I cannot change it for anything
Go to South Africa you will lovee it. Everybody has a relative in South Africa
I've had the worst Afrikaner experiences here in SA .... you have no idea of their arrogance.... I can't believe they take it with them when they love this country...
Dont be a poes
if you emigrate looking back over your shoulder, you'll never settle in your new home. I say this as an English expat: it took me 27 years (and counting) to realise it.
I'm a 3rd generation white NZer and invariably find the Sth Africans that have moved here are a breath of fresh air ! They have a no nonsense way of looking at things , are grateful to be here , work hard and some humble themselves in occupations that they would never have done in Sth Africa . I wish them all a good future here
in Aotearoa ....🐬
South Africans are such a great people, their enterprising spirit and Love of Liberty bring countless benefits to any Country they chose to live in and contribute to!
They are good among their own kind, here in Africa they treat blacks less than a dog.
fu.k love of liberty make me laugh
@@iskaykabeya609 Thats exactly what many blacks say about their own kind in government, want to see pics of them carrying the posters saying exactly that?
Here in Germany we have many of them, too. As a convinced and proud Southerner, they are some of the best conversation partners I can imagine, especially when politics is the topic!
Evan McDonald please come over here to South Africa and fetch more of them :-)
@@aydenfrac I'm already starving :-(
@@mazibukomail Starving for unity and nation building. Guess it will never happen. The way I see it there is too much Black and White hatred and this will never go away for generations to come.
@apokalypse 2016 The biggest problem is that White South Africans, because of apartheid could possibly viewed internationally as a White Supremist race of the Ku Klax Klan ideologies.
The Suidlanders is a White group in South Africa undergoing training in order to defend farm properties which is believed to be under attack by blacks in South Africa. It is not clear whether the attacks is criminal intent or politically motivated.
Neo Nazi Alt Right White supremist Islamophobia movement is an international movement.
The Suidlanders could possibly be seen connected to this movement by the European community.
Therefore i agree with you that it is quite possible that the European world may not want to grant political asylum to White South Africans based on apartheid's White supremist ideologies and the possible link to the Neo Nazi Alt Right White supremist Islamophobia terrorists organization.
What makes it worst for white South Africans is that Brenton Tarrent the shooter of the Christchurch massacre of Muslims is being investigated to a possible connection to the ALT Right movement.
If there is a Suidlanders link to this organization, it is definitely not helping White South Africans internationally
Ernst Roets of Afriforum is presently in USA lobbying for support to stop the expropriating of the farms and Simon Roche the leader of the Suidlanders is also there for. I leave that to your imagination.
@Zz Z but black people are currently doing all the work as farm workers. What are you on about?
Nz prides on Maori heritage...south Africans should know the local culture before thinking of imposing their preconceived notions. They should be grateful to be well received
vukken99 According to Goosen, research at RRL was focused on developing a “bacterial agent that would selectively kill black people.” Goosen stated that the project and the program had been described by South Africa’s then Surgeon General, Dr. Neil Knoble, as “the most important project for the country.”
Goosen himself had plenty of faith in the ability to create this type of weapon. In fact, he even claimed that an unknown European scientist had already developed a strain of bacteria capable of “only affecting, making sick, and killing pigmented people” as far back as the early 1980s.
“Under oath, Goosen went on to state that the government could have used such a weapon as a ‘negotiation back-up’ (to stay in power) and to ‘maintain peace’ (between local whites and blacks),” writes Singh.
@@petermak2398 We at RRL have developed the agent and call it Covid-19, it is now being tested and perfected.
Carole - South African Ystervrou! Well done, Carole!
I know a south African elderly man who we worked in the same company in Auckland. He is a very decent gentleman but once I have said: 'Was that so bad in S.A?' His eyes were like fireballs and became furious.... I know he has no offence intention to me as a asian man. But I could learn his past was creepy or even horrible stories he has experienced when he was young and being a soldier. He lost everything in S.A. fled to this country to spend the rest of his life, may God bless this man.
Could have been a killer during apartheid
I'm PI and I like SA people in New Zealand . They are hardworking and friendly.
I get so happy every time when I come acrosse positive response like this
Great, so invite them back to your own country!
So is there mouth wait for it ,
One correction to this documentary: Jan Van Riebeeck arrived long before the 19th century.
1652, but Dutch and Portuguese had been using it long before that. We even have the remains of a two thousand year old Phoenician ship.
this is great you all look happy around other whites. which means more room for me when i return to Africa my family can work farmlands like no one else.
Lol Come back home!!! We are making space for you and your family.
@@QuotesFromTheMotherland Hey my brother I hope there's room for me and my family too. We would love to repatriate to the continent!!!
I hope you are prepared to feed 60 million hungry lions on a government collective farm like they have in Cuba. LOL
@@GaryJean84 It will help if you are a committed communist, the Stalinist type.
@PALI PALI Difficult to scurry back, there is a queue of 150 million blacks in Africa sailing on little boats to Europe
This kind of migrants I woukd gladly welcome to my country.
You are from S. A. ?
Thks
valentine yes I am
valentin valentin you can take all of them, we don’t want them in Africa 😂😂
Eva F. Which Europe , you need to be precise. And as far I’m concerned I don’t know any single African who owns land as big as the city of Paris or London , and who claims that his ancestors left it to him.
The irony of those women singing in Nguni languages when most don't deal with Africans in a real way in RSA is laughable. Sing Die Stem and get over it.
I thought i was the only one who noticed, the culture they take on is other people's culture but they don't want to deal with the people. Intresting indeed
Charmaine I could say it better. 😀😀
Yeah, why didn't they sing Afrikaans songs? Kind of ironic, given they can't stand being around black South Africans 🤣
Us South Africans are bit arrogant, but it's because we're big fish in a small pond, but it's innocuous mostly. We're also very independent and entrepreneurial.
And racist
You are wrong....I blame apartheid !! That is where the arogance come from.
@@truth-Hurts375 apartheid was racist
@@zororondigger3778 Actually, if you do some research, you will find that apartheid was a Sunday school picnic compared to life in any other country on the African continent. There is a very long list of violent African dictators, from Austria to Auckland, many of whom committed some of the worst violations of human rights known to mankind.
"Even though SA is in a critical state, we still operate under the assumption that "it will never happen here". But that's what the Venezuelans thought too. Hearing their story first-hand was a reality check. Because Venezuela's early warning signs are flashing in SA." - Mmusi Maimane - 23 October 2018
It's not going to happen, I'm sure you've been waiting for 25 years???
It's going to happen in every Country
Fascist propaganda perpetuated by Joseph Geobbels himself!
Nothing worse than Fascists or Commie totalitarians!
Mmusi was right. It's becoming more and more evident by the day. I have lost hope
@@ayandampolweni17 I believe it has come to pass, as seen with 12 million signing up for a free R350 government unemployment grant which will not be possible to sustain. 99% of Cubans earn R350 per month for working full time.
We have a beautiful country yous are welcome here..south Africans a lovely people.NAU MAI HAERE MAI
Thank you si much
the women are soo elegant
If u are a Maori then those white South Africans think of as being just another blackie .If u are white Ihope that u are not as racists as white South Africans
Pfff, Maories are not Blacks, and Maories are not so uppssesed about past wrongs as you Africans. They take Rainbow Nation seriously.
@@sheriffmoola3456 Stop talking kak, and get over yourself. The Maoris are a strong nation, and we South Africans respect them. They also don't play the race card at every opportunity, and they take responsibility. You tend to generalise all white South Africans, and that is ignorance to the full extent. I take it you have personally met each and every white English/Afrikaans speaking South African?
Shame man, it must be really difficult. Change is good but very difficult...
The crime level is a very a very serious concern unfortunately and it's sad to lose good people to that.
We have many South African expats in western NC USA, awesome people,!!
Yes South Africans are awesome people
Mr Clarkson do a video on that I have not heard about that but I know a bunch of people that would subscribe to a channel that did post videos about that
Yeah, I'm sure they'd fit right in, in your racist state.!
Exhibit A
Jasper Stone Chronicles New Zealand is a melting pot. Our Maori people are lovely looking, kind and generous. When white and Maori get together we make beautiful children. Everyone should be of mixed race. A great step to end racism.
We are happy for them... please invite the rest of your families too... dont leave them behind. All the best to New Zealand and the native people there.
My exact sentiments... Good for them
@@tshiamishogopane633 but then they are going to be racist to the natives of New Zealand. You cant see that?
It's already happening
@@patmunoo887 can you provide a source? First time Ive heard of it but psychologically the act of have a superior complex is hard to overcome.
Pat Munoo really ? you have had personal experience of this ? how awful for you ..or are you one of those people who likes to stir up trouble
@@patmunoo887 Yes you provide your sources, you are a agitator just like the ones in South Africa, put you money where your mouth is.
Please remember there are not even enough Job's for us whom were Born here so to whine about it is disrespectful ,We welcome all here! I know a couple from Church who fled S.A. because of the violence over there and they love it here and can't believe how nice and peaceful it really is ☺. I have to admit they do come across a tad grumpy haha ☺☺☺☺.But Welcome to your new Home xxx.
Your kindness is noted with appreciation. Even though I am a South African and not an immigrant, I am touched by your attitude. This is how we need to be there for one another. May God bless you!
Oorblyfsel Volk Oorblyfsel Geloof Amen,None of us own this world and imagine a world where we are all welcome in each others Countries ☺.Us kiwis are pretty laid back all are Welcome here it's the kiwi way ☺
I recall a few decades back when many Kiwis emigrated to South Africa because of NZ's economic woes and the limited opportunities that existed there at the time. They were welcomed with open arms.
You have serious issues boet! Best you seek help.
thank you for the limited remark just please remember we do appreciate that they let us in new Zealand, but as far as grumpy! never ever forget we are refugees and I think its a miracle that we are still normal after seeing our people that forcefully have to watch there mothers eyes cut out as if she is a love of bread please remember why they are there where else can we go? every one of the word media outlets ignore this good day to you
What is it about many South Africans "Afrikaners in particular" always ending up being hated by people in their host countries?
Seriously this extends from England to New Zealand to Argentina, and everytime i get complaints about South Africans it's almost always a racist Afrikaner starting shit.
Now i'm not saying this extends to all South Africans, or all Afrikaners for that matter, i'm just speaking out based on experience and the constant complaints i'm usually bombarded with.
I hear you Dawood, and thank you for not generalizing. Among those that fled were certain, racist and arrogant types, and they hopefully will learn and change their thinking. I'm convinced most will, through immersion in a non-racial society - it's inevitable.
@@AfricanStorybook i certainly hope so.
They are not hated in NZ. They have a good reputation here, same as Chinese and Indian immigrants. They work jard, fit in, cause no trouble.
@@dawoodwilliams3652 Afrikaaners are usually like what you described
Stop projecting dumb bantu
Good for Carol the busdriver. Go
girl go.
I've commented on here before about South Africans. I've known alot growing up in NZ. They are good people... hard workers. I've nothing but good things to say about them but one thing... they're really racist towards each other. When I was with white SAs all they'd do was go on about Black SAs. And when I was with Black SAs all theyd do was go on about White SAs. They have bad blood between them. All I ask is they don't bring that hatred here.
The racism tends to be context sensitive. You'll notice that black south africans have no issue with white new zealanders. And white south africans have nothing bad to say about maori or islanders. During the 1995 world cup in South Africa, there was nothing but respect and awe for Lomu, for instance.
As far as I can tell, decades of very bad political arrangements have artificially created enmity between the different groups in South Africa. Politicians, old and new, thrive on a divide and conquer strategy.
Aye new Zealand is one of the only truly successful multi ethnic country's don't bring your old hatred with you
Meanwhile we dutch dont even bother broadcasting their troubles.... its a shame. I would rather have an afrikaner immigrating here than a muslim.
107598 of course it’s your bunch of arseholes ,why not taking back your shits,instead coming into my country.
@@ayomomamao what do you even have against them
these people r misfits? they need to live in africa they built. what is stopping them?
Muslims come in ALL colours and Nationalities
Islam is a faith not a race of people buddy
These are the same people who didnt want to intergrate with the people of their country of birth. What makes you think that will change when moving abroad? Same thing in the UK....they have their afrikaner get togethers and very rarely mix with the british. "A leopard can not change its spots"
They are another breed of people. Conservative, racist and secluded.
Not the modern generation.
The British put them in concentration camps that's like asking Jews to socialize with Nazi's..
@@patmunoo887 nah their ancestors will have jobs no BBEEE did you eevn listen to this man?
Thats how people are, they think and act in clans. Not only an issue for the Boers. All national or groupe feeling is finaly disturbing a full integration. Just name them, all over the world people tend to look for sortwise. The main issue is not that but the willing of immigrants to participate fully in their new country with its new mentality. Many want to do that, some don't and start something completly new like the creation of Orania in SA. As long as they follow the rules of the human rights movement no harm done.
We cannot live with them in Africa. They don’t belong here. You people have to accept them. They are you brothers and sisters.
Carole is so lovely! I'm sure that she will adapt quickly
All Dutch/Afrikaans are good people. they are nice people and hearty farmer attitudes i like them very much. Very Understanding of our Culture in New Zealand. they're very respectful my door is always open to them. and im Maori hard.
give it time, see who is in charge later?
6:38 And he _totally_ would have no qualms about saying the same about, say, the Somalis in the UK.
yup
Not many of them go to Holland. Why is that do you think?
The society and language in Holland is too different from what they are used to. New Zealand is a closer match and easier to move to. Most South Africans are fluent in English and New Zealand has a very good reputation in South Africa... that's what I think anyways...
Same with Indians, not one has gone back to India
@@shameel2625 False information.
ALL OF Indians left Uganda to return to India.
Over 3000 South African Indian businessmen left for India while the professional technical Indian engineers left for Australia, the middle East (Gulf) and Canada.
Being second class for the first time can be very humbling.😢
3:55 its tough to show empathy now knowing fully well that when they had power they showed none. I pray that the mercy they showed the natives be shown back to them
EXACTLY!!!! YOU REAP WHAT YOU SOW!!!!
@@caligirl3000 Remember your words, Karma has a funny way of biting you in the arse.
Look at South Africa now. Blacks running the show for 28 years and things are only getting worse. SA is a shithole being run into the ground. Its difficult to not call your opinion stupid, when a black co worker of mine from SA told me he had it better during apartheid compared to now.
@@jaco7826 i'm sure your coworker experienced every aspect of apartheid, and is an expert on human relations. So whatever he says must be right. 👍🏾!
@@jaco7826 im sure the life quality was better, but he definitely didnt enjoy being a 2nd class citizen, nobody does.
Any Afrikaans that leaves South Africa does not deserve the title of a South African, true boere dont leave
Lol 'N Ware boer weet wanneer hy verslaan word
@@QuotesFromTheMotherland ,when will that be?
The crime in South Africa is the scariest thing.
As long as they don't bring their racist ways into our country ..
And no matter who moves to Nz you need to adapt to our culture not the other way around! You don't like that then don't move here ..
Yes go back with your racist
I get the impression that South Africa is loosing it's best people on mass
It will soon be known as South Cuba.
When she says they killed my brother and father, who is they?
Like really, who is "they"
Isn't it obvious? Boers are going through nothing short of a genocide right now and the fact you have to ask "who is they?" speaks volumes regarding how uninformed the rest of the world is on the plight of the white South Africans.
@ I'm still asking who are they? O buwa masepa wena...u have no clue , are u even a south African? What about all the black people who are killed by whites in farms...so dont talk nonsense...u know they feed people to the lions? What about that young boy the farmers shot for stealing oranges? Like shoot a young boy? Fuck u
@XOLANI REQUITO MKHWANAZI ba re tlwaela gampe shem...as if blacks are not killed too by farmers..mxm...
@@lesegomodise5871 er they faced the justice of the courts and went to jail........so what's your point?
Thank god .....They escaped from this failed state otherwise we would never see Genius like Elon Musk
Follow them
INBRED!
It's funny how life is so tough for them outside South Africa, yet they complain about everything when they are in South Africa. They must all leave our country and leave us in peace. Expropriation of Land without compensation
I really hope your goverment attempts it so it fully collapses.
Not sure where you see "them" having a tough time.
@@wernerschenk2473 South Africa is now officially Cuba II.
South Africans are lovely and hard working people
No they ain't, lovely people but not hard and fast workers
Some afrikaans are not nice people
Wonderful to see so many South Africans thriving in New Zealand.
I left South Africa last year and am living in England now.
Wherever we Saffas may be it is great to hear news of other Saffas doing well, having a job and decent lifestyle and living in safety.
GOD bless you all! ! 😁
Yeah after you fucked your own country. God bless you all!
@@chrisclark719 Have you been to SA??
You mean Englandistan
After you'll enjoyed apartheid you leave lol
Typical weakling
Chris Clark no sweetie ...we certainly did not mess up the country ......the ANC has messed up the country all on their own . Please don’t blame the white people ...we’ve had nothing to do with the political situation since 1990
A lot of these good people also come to Australia, they are hard workers, and they are most welcome.
And very racist
@@zororondigger3778 So what?
I been to that cobbler guy , he’s in browns bay on the shore and also cuts keys. Nice bloke. I also employ two South African panelbeaters and great workers!.
I fled South Africa because of the Apartheid. Now it's the other way around.
Apartheid was shit.
Now this is shit.
@@patmunoo887 fuck you racist pice of shit
Sub zero playz You seem upset. I’m not from South Africa, and I did not support the apartheid regime, however the way the economy and safety of the nation has gone is completely and absolutely under black rule and yet “the whites” are yet still to blame though they make up just a single digit percentage of the population. The corruption within the government is staggering, and any aid that is given from other countries like the United States or United Kingdom is stolen by government officials and never makes its way to who is in desperate need! Then there’s those who say “the whites” must pay for their people’s actions in the apartheid regime, when many weren’t even born when all of this was going on. The government has failed its people once again, and the economy is beyond repair as this once prosperous economic giant slowly merges into absolute poverty, corruption and destruction. There is little light at the end of the tunnel of South Africa, regardless of ethnicity. However blaming “white people” for the economic collapse and the imploding of the country is not the white mans responsibility.
Always the victim, huh?
Would have been interesting to include the perspective of people of colour who've migrated from South Africa.
So glad someone asked! It's the hardest part of producing this insert. Not one of about ten people of colour / mixed race wanted to be interviewed. That happens often. People not wanting to 'put their heads above the parapet', as the saying goes. Or used to - less so now.
The funny thing about this topic is that when it comes to South Africans its always about White & Black war, the Coloured people in SA just sit back have beer, braai & lol while this is all happening😎.
Im half maori & half coloured living in SA.
Omg your probably related to me many South Africans are related to coloured in them but dont know
Maybe being assertive is good, I've been bullied at work as I'm not assertive.
This reminds me when the Bosnians came to the northern part of the US. Many were educated and skilled and had to take jobs as unskilled laborers to make ends meet. There degrees from Bosnia didn't transfer plus the language barrier.
Which year was this ?
The New Zealanders are one of the most peace loving, great people on this planet. You hardly heard anything negative emanating from their side of the world. However, sooner or later, the newly arrived Afrikaaners will eventually begin to inflict upon the New Zealand citizens the same Ill treatments and atrocities that they committed against the South African Blacks. Starting from taking over the New Zealanders farming land. Then later set up for themselves their own Government that will rule over the New Zealanders.
The New Zealanders should BEWARE.
planetowoh, they will NEVER be able to do that in New Zealand! The Maoris and Pakeha's will stand together against them!
I doubt that that they will be able to
@@Mathilda5xp we are one people here
Chinese are taking over, not saffers lol
this will never happen , it may in your dreams
I remember in high school the South Africans would be in their own groups. They'd never integrate with other groups.
@@patricksweeney5308 NZers of Dutch descent (whose forebears mostly immigrated after WWII, and who are assimilated into the mainstream European NZ culture which is British-based) are not the same as Afrikaners, who have been in South Africa for 400 years and developed their own language and distinct culture over many generations. They're not exclusively of Dutch extraction either - there's also French and German in the mix.
Patrick Sweeney Afrikaans are different to the Dutch!
@@cececece5459 How do they feel being married to/befriending fruit? I love Kiwi fruit, but I wouldn' t go as far as marrying it. It must be a very sweet marriage/friendship.
@@cececece5459 yeah. we had this south african boy at our old school, he was extremely nervous so we'd try take him under our wing but felt more comfortable talking to other south africans
Kia Ora I have faith in the People of South Africa to lead the Nation's toward a Just and Fair World Ko Maori ahau I am Maori it is imperative that I should be interested in what is happening in South Africa and watch carefully the forces that would Divide us actively at work in South Africa so that We here in Aotearoa New Zealand would be better prepared for this divisive element entering into Our Colonial History I welcome all you Ex Pat South Africans and thank you all for your hard work and contribution to the health wealth and prosperity of my Nation. We are not perfect but we strive to maintain a fragile peace among us We do find you Ex Pat's Abit stand offish but that is the habit of all New People to another land I do encourage you to cherish your cultural identity language and fascinating customs let us pray for South Africa that as God has predestined be that Nation of Justice and Fairness for All South Africans The Rainbow Nation Hope for a better World not as The Coporate Colonial Masters want but as God has Ordained will be Let's pray for South Africa..... Again welcome to Aotearoa New Zealand Let me be bold and say You may have Left South Africa but I hope you do not Abandon South Africa
No reira We wrestle not against flesh and blood but against powers and principalities against the Rulers of this dark world against them who practice spiritual wickedness in high place.
Kia misibishi
Afrikaners not integrating in SA now not integrating in NZ. Are they still good immigrants?
the situation in S.A is very very messed up, the sooner the Afrikaners and the blacks realise that they actually need each other, then change will happen...Such a beautiful country but so much hatred on both sides, what a shame...
true what you are ssaying. This whole mess was created by these white supremacist elites and their toxic apartheid system.
You're right. South Africans are an angry people.
I moved from an English speaking nation to country Australia 1969 when Aust was extremely different than my old home. We made a commitment to stay for min 2 years to give it a go. We knew many people that did the same as us that had gone back within 6 mth refusing to try. One of our neighbours didn't have electricity, hot water was heated on a wood stove, NO TV, NO telephone. Many households even in the closest city didn't have a telephone in their home. There was no fast food places. The only non english food was Chinese. I do NOT know any people that live within 500 km that had the same nationality that started with. We assimilated into Australian society. We LOVE IT !!!!! I have a slight accent still and peoples first guess now is Sth African. I get really angry as I detest the racism of white Sth Africans.
I feel sorry for New Zealand having a large influx of White South Africans that bring their racism with them (shown by women in the choir). Neither Australia or New Zealand want or need the racism they bring.
Positive, constructive comment thank you. Having visited Australia a few times, with my best friend living there, I have received good insight into the country. Arrogance of new arrivals is resented, obviously, and adopting and absorbing the local culture is the best way of assimilating and making a positive contribution. The 'when we' approach typical of old Rhodesians in SA is never appreciated.
@@AfricanStorybook WE have 3 generations living in Aust now.
And yet you have no issue with Australians and their sordid treatment of the aboriginal people. South Africa's ACTUAL history pales in comparison but you sound like a typical ignorant virtue signaling liberal. Very selective about your outrage, aren't you?
You're so in love with being an Australian yet the current treatment of non white people held in offshore concentration camps- because that's what they are- doesn't seem to bother you.
Hypocrite, thanks for correcting people because I don't want anyone thinking you're South African.
@@AfricanStorybook He just called all South African whites racist. How is this positive?
Different topic Ange, but laterally relevant. Here i must confess I did not think of that angle. I was focused on South Africans and their attitude when emigrating. But @@angevdw2887raises a good point re Australia's own history. At a museum in Cairns I saw a b&w, 20th century photograph of white australian 'hunters' with their feet on a pile of aboriginals, as early colonial settlers did throughout Africa with wildlife (and contemp hunters still do today). It was only in 1969 that aboriginals were removed from Australia's Fauna and Flora Act. Says a great deal about the country's DNA regarding race and tolerance. Happily it has been turning.
Props to the ingenuity of everyone in the vids, very cool.