Why Chill Seeds?

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  • Опубліковано 16 гру 2023
  • For some seed varieties, a duration of cold moist "stratification" is required to convince them to sprout. This is particularly common with cold-hardy trees, shrubs and perennials. It's important to know that this seed chilling can vary quite a bit around temperatures, timing and other requirements. Here I'll go through my own setup and my "default" method for sprouting seeds where a cold treatment is advisable.
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  • @oceansoul3694
    @oceansoul3694 6 місяців тому +6

    Thank you for making this video! My small greenhouse in CO goes from the ambient air temperature to 80+ degrees in the winter, and my cold frames do the same thing. I'll make room in the frig although I've usually just put the seed packs in, not sown seeds. I love your channel, I always learn a lot. Growing roses here in zone 5 is really difficult but I shall persevere.

  • @barbaral.5980
    @barbaral.5980 6 місяців тому +4

    Thank you for your very informative videos. I've learned so much from them and am very proud of my first two rooted rose cuttings.
    We bought an old peach tree ( a local cultivar weißer Weinbergpfirsich = white vinyad peach) with our house and now after 25 years it is on it's last leg😢
    As I couldn't find something similar to buy, I tried to grow them from seeds. It took me two years to realize they needed cold, but last year I finally had success! I just put all the pits into a big pot outside in september and forgot about them. End of February the first green shoots showed up, and over all I I ended up with 40 potted trees, which grow now all over the neighbourhood. The same procedure worked with mahonia aquifolium berries, but I find these a little more delicate.

    • @FraserValleyRoseFarm
      @FraserValleyRoseFarm  6 місяців тому +2

      Thanks for adding this real-world example! I'm just about to get going on Italian plum (which I hear comes fairly "true" from seed"). Wish me luck!

  • @eliev7844
    @eliev7844 6 місяців тому +3

    Love your videos, Jason. You present the info in such an easily digestible way! Thank you from an uk fan.

  • @joeparker6070
    @joeparker6070 5 місяців тому +1

    Love watching your videos mate. Thanks for giving me inspiration and ideas for increasing my plants. All the best to you and the family for Christmas and happy new year too mate. Awesome 👍 Joe

    • @FraserValleyRoseFarm
      @FraserValleyRoseFarm  5 місяців тому +1

      Thanks so much Joe. A Merry Christmas and happy new year to you and your family as well.

  • @judymckerrow6720
    @judymckerrow6720 5 місяців тому

    Thanks Jason. 🎅🏻🤶🏻🎄💚🙃

  • @mdorn6592
    @mdorn6592 6 місяців тому +1

    Great info...Much appreciated

  • @user-be5xr9zc6p
    @user-be5xr9zc6p 6 місяців тому

    Mulberry is my favourite & Japanese nashi pear.. we used to get nashi pears from supermarkets in the eighties but i haven’t seen them since.. & r v roger in North Yorkshire nursery has that fruit tree & many different verities of them..one day i’ll get it

  • @Growing-Our-Retirement
    @Growing-Our-Retirement 6 місяців тому

    Excellent info! We need to be doing more of this with spruce trees.

    • @FraserValleyRoseFarm
      @FraserValleyRoseFarm  5 місяців тому +2

      Thanks. Tree seeds would be a lot of fun - I had a chance to visit some of the large-scale forestry nurseries locally (before I was making videos). So cool.

    • @dustyflats3832
      @dustyflats3832 3 місяці тому

      @@FraserValleyRoseFarmI had several Norway spruce growing once, but didn’t quite know how to care for them once they were 2” tall. If you have any info I would appreciate it as it wasn’t easy to find how to even start them let alone aftercare.

  • @gwbuilder5779
    @gwbuilder5779 6 місяців тому +3

    Definitely tree and shrub season for sure.
    I am adding apple trees to my mix of plants and slowly collecting different seed varieties by buying the apples in the off season, 3-4 months after harvest.
    The idea is cold storage, many people do not realize that apples can be stored for up to 2 years and still be considered "Fresh". Although anyone who actually eats fresh picked apples will know the difference immediately.
    The advantage of cold storage is already stratified seeds.
    Of course many varieties have been hybridized to prevent people like me from doing exactly what I'm doing, but sometimes a few seeds still make it through.
    I now have 7 Granny Smith trees growing and will have to wait and see if any of them fully develop. Apple trees are notoriously difficult to propagate, although the Johnny Appleseed stories are fun to hear.
    Some people have trees growing like weeds while most struggle to keep what they have.
    I grew up around apple orchards, grafting, and other propagation methods, it's a lot of work.
    I will eventually acquire a few trees, but for now the seed collecting program will be part of my winter propagation entertainment.😉
    The seasonal tips are a great handy resource.🤙

    • @FraserValleyRoseFarm
      @FraserValleyRoseFarm  6 місяців тому +2

      Thanks - yes, winter always gets me going on propagation, whether it's cuttings, seeds or now I'm thinking of some micropropagation. Slow season far gardening? Maybe not...

    • @user-be5xr9zc6p
      @user-be5xr9zc6p 6 місяців тому

      My neighbour gave me most delicious & juicy red apples by the bag full off his tree.. i planted the seeds & now i have 12 apple trees i would love to give away.. as well as 6 peach trees, nectarine, apricots .. plum trees..sweet cherry trees.. i grew them all from seeds

    • @user-be5xr9zc6p
      @user-be5xr9zc6p 6 місяців тому

      I’ve also managed to grow orange & lemon trees too

    • @gwbuilder5779
      @gwbuilder5779 6 місяців тому

      @@FraserValleyRoseFarm
      Why not?
      What's the worst thing that could happen, it works, not really a down side, at least you would know if it's for you.

    • @gwbuilder5779
      @gwbuilder5779 6 місяців тому

      @@user-be5xr9zc6p
      I live in Hawaii, so shipping and import restrictions would be a difficult task, but I would absolutely love having at least 2 of each for partner trees.
      The offer is wonderful.🤙

  • @valeriezendiver263
    @valeriezendiver263 6 місяців тому

    Thanks, this was helpful 👏

  • @geraldinefields1730
    @geraldinefields1730 6 місяців тому

    Thank you.

  • @andrewjames6676
    @andrewjames6676 6 місяців тому +2

    I bought a miniature fridge for the greenhouse, like the ones in hotel rooms, just right for stratification (and my wife won't let me use the kitchen fridge!)

    • @FraserValleyRoseFarm
      @FraserValleyRoseFarm  6 місяців тому +1

      That sounds about right. Our mini fridge is allowed seeds and beer - great compromise!

    • @user-be5xr9zc6p
      @user-be5xr9zc6p 6 місяців тому

      🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂

  • @Cycnoches2012
    @Cycnoches2012 Місяць тому

    Thanks!

  • @sandratronco
    @sandratronco 6 місяців тому +2

    Hi Jason, great video.
    I want to germinate the Himalayan Blue Poppy (meconopsis betonicifolia). I was told to put the seeds in the freezer for two weeks before sowing. When do you think it would be best to do this, spring time or earlier? Do you have any additional suggestion for success?
    Many thanks!

    • @FraserValleyRoseFarm
      @FraserValleyRoseFarm  6 місяців тому

      Most times it doesn't need to be quite freezing temperatures - slightly above freezing, like average fridge temperatures is fine. Or if you get cold over winter, you could just place the tray in a sheltered/shaded area outdoors and let nature do it. Poppy seeds are so small they they're surface sown, which means it takes extra care to keep them from drying out. Also because they're so small, I'd probably choose a fine textured potting or propagation mix like ProMix or similar. I'd probably place a clear bag loosely over the tray to maintain consistent moisture - clear because light may also be required for germination. Check weekly both early and late. Fresh meconopsis can sprout early (like I mentioned for members of the carrot family) or later in the stratification treatment. That'll also give you a chance to mist if it needs more moisture and check for any mold growth. A 1% solution of hydrogen peroxide as the misting water might give you some help in keeping the rot organisms from taking hold.

  • @xxeebbk
    @xxeebbk 5 місяців тому

    Hey Jason,
    I've got a rose questions for you (and maybe a video idea). When I first planted a climbing rose (years ago), I saw/read that you should leave your climbing rose alone for the first 2 years and not prune it. After the first winter, the tops of the canes where last years blooms had been were dried up hips and dead in the top 4 or 5 inches. I couldn't find exact info that said cut the tops of your canes, but I did it anyway - cause it was obviously dead.
    Cut to this year, and I bought a new climbing rose called Pretty in Pink Eden climbing rose. It's far more vigorous than the last climbing rose I planted, and sprouted up new canes about 5 feet high, but never pushed flowers at the top. So just a giant cane that might survive the winter.
    The questions/video idea is - can a cane from this growing season, survive the winter and continue to grow skyward next growing season? Or does the plant have to push a new cane to reach the labels 12-15 feet length all in one growing season?
    It may be a roses 101 question, but when I started growing climbing roses, I never read anything specific about cutting off last years hips, or that the main cane wouldn't pick up and start growing where it left off the previous season.
    Thanks!

    • @FraserValleyRoseFarm
      @FraserValleyRoseFarm  5 місяців тому +1

      Thanks. I'll note it down in my topics list. In the meanwhile I'll say that in my experience many climbers will develop their full height from a combination of vigorous first-year canes and from side-shoots on existing canes. Roses that are cut down by winter annually often have difficulty achieving full or impressive garden size - and those that are fully cane hardy to your climate have the advantage.

    • @xxeebbk
      @xxeebbk 5 місяців тому

      @@FraserValleyRoseFarm Thank you very much 👍 from zone 6a

  • @kathybryce8113
    @kathybryce8113 5 місяців тому

    There is so much written on using milk jugs for winter sowing, and I don’t have any, but I do have an unheated greenhouse. I’m thinking it should work the same? Though maybe I have to cover the seed trays with a dome and keep the moist?

    • @FraserValleyRoseFarm
      @FraserValleyRoseFarm  5 місяців тому

      Sure, or even just a clear plastic sheet draped loosely over can help.

  • @FiggyWiggy559
    @FiggyWiggy559 6 місяців тому +1

    I only have 10 seeds of each VARTY I'm planting you suggest this method? Or heat mats I really want my peppers to sprout but only have 10 seeds of each

    • @FraserValleyRoseFarm
      @FraserValleyRoseFarm  6 місяців тому +4

      No, pepper seeds are annual vegetables, and wouldn't require cold stratification. As mentioned, this is variety specific, and generally more appropriate for cold-hardy trees, shrubs and perennials.

  • @80sforever3
    @80sforever3 6 місяців тому

    Hi, would burning garden soil/compost helps with sterilizing them?

    • @bruceritchings5336
      @bruceritchings5336 6 місяців тому

      Yes, but apparently you have to be careful about the time and temperature that you use----You should double check this, but apparently you can over-cook your soil and make it un-usable for seed germination. I'm *told* (but you should check on this) that about 150F (that's not too hot) for half an hour works best. Hope this helps.

    • @FraserValleyRoseFarm
      @FraserValleyRoseFarm  6 місяців тому

      Yes, you can definitely sterilize with heat (or steam commonly in the trade) but it's pretty specific and usually more trouble than the home grower would want to take on. Starting with something prepared like ProMix (peat/perlite, or a coir-based alternative) can get decent reliable results without having to get a new hobby (soil sterilization)

    • @80sforever3
      @80sforever3 6 місяців тому

      @@FraserValleyRoseFarm I'm having problem with peatmoss seedling mix for the past few months, fungal growth. Makes me wonder if something is in the air or in the mix. Never happen before