HOW TO PLAY TALIYAH - FULL INDEPTH GUIDE - RANK 1 CHALLENGER MID

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  • Опубліковано 7 лип 2024
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    0:00 Intro
    0:17 Runes
    3:35 Items
    11:55 Summs
    12:44 Abilities
    15:39 Combos
    17:27 Laning
    23:46 Teamfighting
    25:43 Matchups
    26:47 Outro
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  • @ShokLeague
    @ShokLeague  Рік тому +69

    Hey everyone, I tried to improve the pacing of this guide quite a bit by cutting out a lot of the repetition in the items, runes and summs sections. Hopefully that makes the guide much easier to watch!

    • @evanconnor5791
      @evanconnor5791 Рік тому +3

      Thanks for the video! Love the content dude. 👍 You have katarina listed as an easy matchup but I find it really hard to play in d2. How do you manage to play the lane?

    • @yourchris5993
      @yourchris5993 Рік тому +1

      are u still a pro player?

    • @ShokLeague
      @ShokLeague  Рік тому +1

      No I stopped playing pro at the end of last year

    • @ShokLeague
      @ShokLeague  Рік тому +1

      Take exhaust and probably build Crown. In the early game try keep the wave on your side but you should be able to bully her a fair amount as long as you don't go too far up in the lane. Save your E to use it defensively to help kite her out. In teamfights just make sure you aren't the first person engaged on and it should be fine.

    • @evanconnor5791
      @evanconnor5791 Рік тому +1

      @@ShokLeague I gotta start experimenting with crown, thanks for the help!

  • @angelscotch7169
    @angelscotch7169 Рік тому +69

    I'm a Taliyah OTP and find the E + R combo you demonstrated impractical, but I often naturally end up doing R + E. The trick is: if you see your wall is going to knock someone up while riding it, quickly jump off before it does and lay down your E immediately and it can be fast enough to have it proc. For reference I've just uploaded a video of an example of this titled "Taliyah R + E Combo."

  • @doomkingraye7692
    @doomkingraye7692 Рік тому +9

    My man I just gotta say that I love every single one of your videos and I've watched multiple times some of these in depth guides (the azir and syndra one especially)
    You are the one who got me into syndra and so far I'm loving the champion soooo much

  • @seamuso5597
    @seamuso5597 Рік тому +1

    just found your channel, been looking for an informative mid laner for ages you’re perfect !

  • @Shomomomo
    @Shomomomo Рік тому +11

    Thank you so much for this, really wanted to learn her and this was the push I needed to lose 25 games straight before feeling competent :)

  • @H3kaman
    @H3kaman Рік тому +3

    Thank you so much for making this guide, its hard learning a champion that was just reworked only 2 months ago

  • @lucianograff6512
    @lucianograff6512 Рік тому +1

    It's the first time i watch one of your videos, really liked it ! keep up the good work

  • @juleskim7392
    @juleskim7392 Рік тому +2

    i love your guides, common shok W

  • @_wappy_
    @_wappy_ Рік тому +1

    Great guide it helped me a lot keep the content ❤❤

  • @SkarM_x
    @SkarM_x Рік тому +2

    Thank you so much for making this! It's nice to get your opinion about my main. Great vid as always.

    • @SkarM_x
      @SkarM_x Рік тому

      As a newer player that started ranked this season these insights really help. I'd have never tried taliyah with scorch without this. And damn does it make a difference. Really helps you punish melees early

  • @Gabzilla27
    @Gabzilla27 Рік тому +1

    Love the guides!

  • @Absorbd
    @Absorbd Рік тому +1

    Oufff been looking forward to this one

  • @RaiderThePig
    @RaiderThePig Рік тому +1

    thanks! really useful, I'll be sure to check out your other videos. new sub

  • @raf6411
    @raf6411 Рік тому +1

    I've been falling off on Taliyah 😅 I don't know if I'm getting washed up or not but this video helped me understand her character especially with this mid scope update a lot more so thank you

  • @momoormomo2414
    @momoormomo2414 Рік тому +1

    nice guide :D

  • @1pumpleoyoutube640
    @1pumpleoyoutube640 Рік тому +5

    Hey man love your videos they actually help, also can you please make a sylas guide?

  • @washoce4011
    @washoce4011 Рік тому +1

    good guide dude! I just can't get used to the change in playstyle, I was too used to the big damage on the old one

  • @Bighomer5
    @Bighomer5 Рік тому

    such a fun champ

  • @johndelaney4617
    @johndelaney4617 Рік тому +1

    Excellent

  • @edzoawesome7936
    @edzoawesome7936 Рік тому +6

    Hey Shok, I really really appreciate these guides and I think they are some of the best out there when Learning a champion. Is there any way you could do a Zed one? I’m trying to learn the champ and I think one of your guides would really help me and a lot of new Zeds and Zed mains alike!

  • @kangaroo8858
    @kangaroo8858 Рік тому +1

    No need a guide to my main, but Galio guide would ba a banger

  • @syned149
    @syned149 Рік тому +2

    19:12 if you Flash Auto on Sylas, he survives with 3 hp because your autos deals 46 to him and with the auto traveling time, he would have regen to 49 HP.
    So good decision, definetly worth it to keep your Flash.

  • @aestheticriven1414
    @aestheticriven1414 Рік тому +1

    omg thanks friend, I was delighted with this video of yours, the first time I see it and it earned my subscription to keep learning about the champion "Taliyah", leaving that aside
    I had a doubt about something and it was
    What are the differences between having the minimap on the left/right side
    PD: I have read and heard that you should have the minimap on the left or right side depending on your dominant eye
    The dominant eye is the one with which the brain fixes the view or so I understand

    • @ShokLeague
      @ShokLeague  Рік тому +1

      Honestly no idea, I just did it on left because I was used to it from Starcraft

  • @eclipse9923
    @eclipse9923 Рік тому +1

    Got plat 1 with taliyah with this guide :)

  • @palnits6361
    @palnits6361 Рік тому +2

    Hey, Shok! Thank you for another useful guide, really appreciate it. I have the question that doesnt match the video theme, but i am really interested: what are u studying now? Design or smth near? Ur thumbnails are really good, u make those urself?

    • @ShokLeague
      @ShokLeague  Рік тому

      I study Econ/Stats! I'm really bad at design honestly and I have someone make my thumbnails for me.

  • @CopaceticAtay
    @CopaceticAtay Рік тому +1

    Hey @Shok , great video! What's your thoughts on Rylai's Crystal Scepter? Especially when verse melee mid or multiple enemy melees. Fitting in as either your second item before Seraph's or third if ahead and the slow isn't needed as much.
    Also, with the nerf to First Strike in patch 12.15 this week, has your opinion of First Strike changed?

    • @ShokLeague
      @ShokLeague  Рік тому +1

      Not really a fan of Rylais, your E and Q2 already slow so I feel it's wasted. Pretty sure first strike will still be the best.

  • @mehmetkaanguler99
    @mehmetkaanguler99 Рік тому +1

    Oh yes! This is what i have been waiting for. Thanks for the amazing content man.

  • @dannyboy5423
    @dannyboy5423 Рік тому +1

    love it more twitch please

  • @wizzroz4362
    @wizzroz4362 Рік тому +2

    These vids are very helpful as a low elo player, I can play champs like azir and viktor decently well now, just want to know if vlad would ever be a champ to get a guide as I see him solo carrying most of the games I play as he seems like a good champ in low elo

    • @ShokLeague
      @ShokLeague  Рік тому

      I will definitely do Vlad eventually!

    • @wizzroz4362
      @wizzroz4362 Рік тому

      @@ShokLeague let’s go, thanks for the vids dude

  • @zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz__
    @zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz__ Місяць тому +1

    would be too sick to get a super quick taliyah update in the new split :)))

    • @ShokLeague
      @ShokLeague  Місяць тому +1

      Mostly the same as before, still seraphs liandry imo, can possibly do blackfire liandry if you think there isn't any threat to you

  • @skilift8717
    @skilift8717 Рік тому +1

    hey shok you forgot to mention that taliyah can cast w while jumping off her wall

  • @Abdo.R.Mohamed
    @Abdo.R.Mohamed Рік тому +1

    Finally YES !!!

    • @ShokLeague
      @ShokLeague  Рік тому

      Not really a fan of electro/dark harvest honestly, but you can do it if you really want to try snowball early game. Everfrost also just inferior imo since now hitting your EW combo isn't as important as before, and your E slows anyway.
      Zed and Fizz are kinda annoying, you just have to build defensively and try keep the wave on your side so that you aren't pushed up. You'll mega outscale them both so if you don't die you'll be fine.

  • @PinkeySuavo
    @PinkeySuavo Рік тому +1

    18:12 if you took W you could do some nice additional damage + more autos + maybe even ignite and a kill
    19:13 - probably not a kill, ur AA do 46 and he regenerated quickly to 49, i am not sure if it would be on time
    And nice video of course!

    • @froglifes6829
      @froglifes6829 Рік тому

      19:13 he has 63aa

    • @PinkeySuavo
      @PinkeySuavo Рік тому

      @@froglifes6829 63 is his AD, enemy has armor so he deals 46

  • @NGaming2017
    @NGaming2017 Рік тому +1

    fell asleep to this one too

  • @toni3353
    @toni3353 Рік тому +3

    What do you think about rylais with Taliyah?
    Ucal in high elo korea builds it almost every game.

    • @ShokLeague
      @ShokLeague  Рік тому

      Not a fan personally since you have slow on your Q2 and E already.

  • @omegaminoseer4539
    @omegaminoseer4539 Рік тому +1

    Woo-hoo, Shok is finally covering my gal Taliyah! My only question relates to Taliyah's old identity compared to her modern one.
    Since Taliyah is no longer a Level 1-7 Champion, is it worth going for roams anymore, or should I wait for the LC/Sorcerer's Powerspike? I've found that Taliyah is actually better in lane than before, and the changes to her passive make her feel gated to Skuttle fights.
    - *A Tantalized Taliyah Main*

    • @eriksavage2746
      @eriksavage2746 Рік тому +2

      from personal experience i think shes like every other mage, you can roam if its free but its not worth forcing super hard early

    • @ShokLeague
      @ShokLeague  Рік тому +1

      Very much situational, I talk about it my roaming video but there's a lot of things you should consider. In other words don't force it but definitely roam if it looks good!

  • @jasonzhao8536
    @jasonzhao8536 Рік тому +1

    Love your guides! Day one of asking for a Vladimir guide

    • @ShokLeague
      @ShokLeague  Рік тому

      Elite500 has a really good Vlad guide if you don't want to wait :)

  • @coach_pr0d1gy
    @coach_pr0d1gy Рік тому +2

    Great video! Do you really think taliyah is playable in SoloQ after the nerfs ? I found it very difficult to play her in upper gold :/
    But maybe I am just bad

    • @ShokLeague
      @ShokLeague  Рік тому +1

      The only difference is 2 seconds off your E, it shouldn't feel that different unless you play too aggressively while it's on cooldown or you just waste it all the time

  • @xchorro
    @xchorro Рік тому +1

    when using minion dematerializer use on cannon or back mage minions?

    • @ShokLeague
      @ShokLeague  Рік тому

      Ranged creeps if you need more waveclear, cannon creep if you want to roam immediately

  • @luk4s56
    @luk4s56 Рік тому +1

    little question as someone not very skilled, how is kata an easy matchup? while yes you know where she is gonna land with her pasive, but her jumps are not dashes so its hard to near imposible to get stun on her bit later in the game once she can e in and e out before your w finishes its animation, do you just start shoving waves into her and make sure she cant ingage on you or what?

    • @ShokLeague
      @ShokLeague  Рік тому

      You have a lot of sustained damage so it's sort of hard for her to chase you down. In this matchup you can go exhaust and even Crown if you want and she's going to have a very hard time playing teamfights against you. In the early game you can bully pretty hard 1v1 just try not to get pushed too far up in the lane.

  • @draco6020
    @draco6020 Рік тому +2

    Why surcerores shoes are better when we are the only ap on the team ? I thought magic penetration was usefell when they were a lot of magic resist

    • @ShokLeague
      @ShokLeague  Рік тому +2

      Flat magic pen is good vs low amounts of MR, % magic pen like void staff is good against high amounts of MR. When your opponent already has a shit ton of MR reducing it by 18 with sorc shoes just isn't that valuable compared to the extra ability haste.

  • @alphamf0
    @alphamf0 Рік тому +1

    Hi man, could you do some guides on Yasuo, Yone and Sylas, would be really much appreciated

    • @ShokLeague
      @ShokLeague  Рік тому +1

      I've done Yone already and Sylas will be coming soon!

    • @alphamf0
      @alphamf0 Рік тому +1

      @@ShokLeague thank you very much sir

  • @cloktowur9854
    @cloktowur9854 Рік тому +1

    I'm a bit surprised you didn't mention Electrocute. Is it just not worth it on her? I've been seeming to having decent success with it but wanted to know what you thought.

    • @ShokLeague
      @ShokLeague  Рік тому

      Honestly not really a fan of it, it gives you better early game but Taliyah just isn't really built for that anymore imo

  • @qohelet8398
    @qohelet8398 Рік тому +1

    Outside of laning matchups, what kinds of team comps does Taliyah struggle/excel against?

  • @rampantsarcasm2220
    @rampantsarcasm2220 7 місяців тому +1

    I have a question, who should you look to ban with Taliyah? what champs make her life the most difficult in lane?

    • @ShokLeague
      @ShokLeague  7 місяців тому

      Syndra/Ori probably, mages are hard

  • @isaacb639
    @isaacb639 Рік тому +2

    bayzed

  • @danielw.2456
    @danielw.2456 Рік тому +1

    Great vid! But may i ask your thoughts on Everfrost? Is it so bad on her it isn't even worth addressing?

    • @ShokLeague
      @ShokLeague  Рік тому +1

      You don't really need it for the slow anymore since hitting your W is less important and you already have your E slow, if you just need the HP you can go Crown instead.

    • @danielw.2456
      @danielw.2456 Рік тому +1

      @@ShokLeague Thank you for thr swift reply! I've actually been mainly going everfrost but since i've tried Luden's it feels much better! Ty for da vid!

  • @andreeijbers4300
    @andreeijbers4300 Рік тому +1

    18:58 You mention revolver? That item was removed from league, is this guide outdated or was that just a slip?

  • @joranvanolphen9892
    @joranvanolphen9892 Рік тому +2

    So how does taliyah fair against heimerdinger? I hate that champion and dont have a counter for him, thought taliyah might be ok bc of her Q and E

    • @ShokLeague
      @ShokLeague  Рік тому +2

      Taliyah is fine vs heimer yea

  • @aarongoyvaerts438
    @aarongoyvaerts438 Рік тому +2

    My highest winrate is against Lux, she should be in the easy categorie in my opinion.

  • @mavwag
    @mavwag 4 місяці тому +1

    think we can get a s14 build for taliyah?

    • @ShokLeague
      @ShokLeague  4 місяці тому +1

      imo seraphs > cosmic/liandry > dcap

    • @mavwag
      @mavwag 4 місяці тому

      thanks man!@@ShokLeague

  • @mjaumjau5286
    @mjaumjau5286 10 місяців тому

    is this guide still good in this patch now???

  • @sleepy-ju9rk
    @sleepy-ju9rk 9 місяців тому

    Odysseus is the only taliyah content creator for me😤 still good luck on your journey 😤

  • @tai4235
    @tai4235 Рік тому +1

    why do you start e against ranged champs?

    • @ShokLeague
      @ShokLeague  Рік тому

      You can start Q, but E allows you to start getting first strike from level 1 and it gives decent push as well

  • @donatoliotino1872
    @donatoliotino1872 Рік тому +2

    18:55 bruh, revolver hasnt been in the game in years....

  • @corentinkaisergruber7480
    @corentinkaisergruber7480 Рік тому +2

    What about ROA now ? 😊

    • @ShokLeague
      @ShokLeague  Рік тому +2

      Good as a crown replacement vs assassins but don't build it every game

  • @nwogeistmagier9425
    @nwogeistmagier9425 Рік тому +3

    Is this Guide outdated or stull fine?

  • @formidiguy4010
    @formidiguy4010 Рік тому +1

    Bro where is DH in runes

    • @ShokLeague
      @ShokLeague  Рік тому

      Not good unless you're smurfing

  • @bendjd
    @bendjd Рік тому +1

    i perma ban her if im playing jg

  • @porcu12345
    @porcu12345 Рік тому +1

    I'd suggest slowing the pacing of the video down a touch. Because of the snappy editing you were flowing into point after point with no room to breathe and let things sink in.

  • @realNaniByte
    @realNaniByte Рік тому +2

    Woah there buddy this is good content. Sorry but you will be receiving no views. It all goes to the "99% WINRATE YUMMI JUNGLE" guide

  • @MrBILELTHEBEST
    @MrBILELTHEBEST Рік тому +1

    Don't wanna be mean but isn't it litterally the worst time to make a guide on her as she's getting hard nerfed next patch ? xD

    • @ShokLeague
      @ShokLeague  Рік тому +1

      As I said literally in the intro the nerfs are not a big deal, she will still be very strong as she's currently OP

  • @nikos9732
    @nikos9732 Рік тому

    Check @odysseus if you want to learn about playing Taliyah