Hey everybody, welcome to the next commentary. Today we are playing some Taliyah mid versus a uh Azir. Uh, man, I have not played Taliyah in quite some time...
You can actually use R in combat once- if you hold off on leveling your R like an Ekko then you can use it immediately after leveling it. Seems situational, but it has its uses as it could have saved you at 9:20
I think some Taliyah one tricks will purposely not level up their ultimate since you can only use it out of combat. That way if you’re in trouble and need to get out, you can quickly level it up and run away.
so someone answer this for me, please. Pekin almost never roams. Is that a playstyle thing, do people often endup losing (either xp, gold, or pressure) by roaming too much and i'm just too used to that, or is he actually misplaying some times?
Yes, you can miss a lot if you roam and get nothing, especially if the enemy laner puts your whole wave under turret. However, I don't think it means you have to stay in your lane all the time. You can help your top or bot lane secure a kill, help your jungler get an objective... It just depends on the game, and the character you're playing. If you're a Qiyana mid, you have to roam, that's like mandatory. But if you're a mage like Lux or Hwei, just focus on your lane, destroy the turret, and then help your team. At least, that's how I see it.
I'll try to answer this myself. -i no longer look at the minimap as often which hurts knowing timers (when my team is under tower or pushing) -early game preboots it's almost never worth to roam to a lane (unless something with insane mobility like talon). Only scuttle fights you can join easily without losing a lot. -i don't move my camera to my teammates side lanes as often during lane to scout roams. I definitely still do it but just not as common as I should. -depending on my team I might roam less or more. If I have a karthus jungle I don't ever want to do roam plays alongside him because he sometimes is awful 2v2 pairing. Meanwhile something like Jarvan or Elise could easily benefit from me being with them. -if my team is already winning normally roams aren't needed. I can just continue pressure and wait to be carried. -some champs roams are painful matchups. If I'm Syndra vs like a fed Fizz so he has lane prio I literally cannot roam because if I do for some reason meet him in river I will die and get further behind. -rule of thumb for roams is try to always do it on a shove and if it doesn't look good get back mid without missing a single exp. You can miss the gold not exp. If you do commit the roam you have to win the kills because if it fails you will miss a huge amount of gold exp which means when you return ur lane will maybe be able to beat you I'm sure there is more but I'm really tired so heading off to bed
@PekinWoof I like to Play ziggs and lissandra. Ziggs I can use R to help other lanes. Lissandra I pick into assassins who like to roam so I run Demolish for plating when they leave lane. I think playing around mid is more consistent
Defensive rune shard options are only hp and tenacity. Riot said it was dumb how you could ruin a lane through wrong runes. Like if u faced Jayce and Rumble in champ select it was luck on which one is facing (armor or mr shard). Good change by riot, it's better this way (not to mention I don't pay attention to select so buff for me 💪)
Anyone else infuriated he wouldnt drink his potion the entire time in game 2? I think it also made him not get the 3rd potion for the longest time cuz inventory lock
Was that the right order/timing on the burst combo? I've never played Taliyah, but it looked kind of often that the knockback was going off before the rocks were laid down, missing the burst damage from pushing them through the field.
Also, Taliyah e does decreased damage after every trigger on the same target, down to 0% after the fourth rock hits them. So you can get the full damage just hitting them at the tail end of the push if the e was still unravelling earlier. The e timing is very flexible, you just need to land the w.
Do you think you’ll be trying the Lich Bane Ahri build again anytime soon? I tried it (albeit modified a little for urf, bc I can’t be bothered to play solo q) and it’s actually really fun, especially when the enemy team runs way too fast or has too many dashes to ever hit e
Hey everybody, welcome to the next commentary. Today we are playing some Taliyah mid versus a uh Azir. Uh, man, I have not played Taliyah in quite some time...
But... she inside master plus is one of the highest win rate and also very played midlaner..
So she’s really strong right now um… she did get buffed in 14.3 so… pretty recent buffs
Hey everybody welcone to the next comment...
FUCK
They just increased the Q damage and her E CD to be lower so….
"Right now, it feels like we have no way to lose"
Garen:
16:14 i don't see our lose con, starts losing. Worlds balance have been restored.
You can actually use R in combat once- if you hold off on leveling your R like an Ekko then you can use it immediately after leveling it. Seems situational, but it has its uses as it could have saved you at 9:20
I think some Taliyah one tricks will purposely not level up their ultimate since you can only use it out of combat. That way if you’re in trouble and need to get out, you can quickly level it up and run away.
Taliyahs biggest weakness is enemies with high movement speed such as singed. They can dodge your abilities without triggering rocks.
so someone answer this for me, please. Pekin almost never roams. Is that a playstyle thing, do people often endup losing (either xp, gold, or pressure) by roaming too much and i'm just too used to that, or is he actually misplaying some times?
Yes, you can miss a lot if you roam and get nothing, especially if the enemy laner puts your whole wave under turret. However, I don't think it means you have to stay in your lane all the time. You can help your top or bot lane secure a kill, help your jungler get an objective... It just depends on the game, and the character you're playing. If you're a Qiyana mid, you have to roam, that's like mandatory. But if you're a mage like Lux or Hwei, just focus on your lane, destroy the turret, and then help your team. At least, that's how I see it.
i mean i dont think there was a good angle to roam this game. But i've def seen him roaming on qiyana and asol before
I'll try to answer this myself.
-i no longer look at the minimap as often which hurts knowing timers (when my team is under tower or pushing)
-early game preboots it's almost never worth to roam to a lane (unless something with insane mobility like talon). Only scuttle fights you can join easily without losing a lot.
-i don't move my camera to my teammates side lanes as often during lane to scout roams. I definitely still do it but just not as common as I should.
-depending on my team I might roam less or more. If I have a karthus jungle I don't ever want to do roam plays alongside him because he sometimes is awful 2v2 pairing. Meanwhile something like Jarvan or Elise could easily benefit from me being with them.
-if my team is already winning normally roams aren't needed. I can just continue pressure and wait to be carried.
-some champs roams are painful matchups. If I'm Syndra vs like a fed Fizz so he has lane prio I literally cannot roam because if I do for some reason meet him in river I will die and get further behind.
-rule of thumb for roams is try to always do it on a shove and if it doesn't look good get back mid without missing a single exp. You can miss the gold not exp. If you do commit the roam you have to win the kills because if it fails you will miss a huge amount of gold exp which means when you return ur lane will maybe be able to beat you
I'm sure there is more but I'm really tired so heading off to bed
@@PekinWoofthanks pekin
@PekinWoof I like to Play ziggs and lissandra. Ziggs I can use R to help other lanes. Lissandra I pick into assassins who like to roam so I run Demolish for plating when they leave lane. I think playing around mid is more consistent
that second game was awesome to showcase how to keep your cool and farm whilst losing! good stuff as always bekin
"I don't see how we lose"
*Ally slain*
*Ally slain*
"Thank you team, now I see it"
So I recently stopped playing because of many reasons before the new season arrived, but he just said that mr is no longer in the game!? Huh?
Defensive rune shard options are only hp and tenacity. Riot said it was dumb how you could ruin a lane through wrong runes. Like if u faced Jayce and Rumble in champ select it was luck on which one is facing (armor or mr shard). Good change by riot, it's better this way (not to mention I don't pay attention to select so buff for me 💪)
@@PekinWoof Oh, yeah! I think I heard something about that. Thank you mr. Pekin
I played with lost chapter and tear and with spam Q wave clear i just never got close to being oom ever.
Works on almost any champion btw
@@Kyle-nm1kh true I just tried it on garen and I never ran out of mana
My streamer playing my main and favourite champ
25:36 lux laser mentioned ✅
Ah Masters... I wish i could have reached that rank. Nice job Pekin!
hi pekin. been a while since I watched because I haven’t been playing league but you’re still my favorite. ❤
Anyone else infuriated he wouldnt drink his potion the entire time in game 2? I think it also made him not get the 3rd potion for the longest time cuz inventory lock
Taliyah game!! Much love
I felt so bad for grages and you made me laugh by saying he missed the biggest wave you have ever seen 24:30 😂😂😂😂😂😂
You can use the big Q to slow enemies so it's easier to hit the combo
38:58 Soraka didn't heal you even tho olaf was hitting you for over 5 seconds lesgoo
Great gameplay! Would love to see you play Azir :)
Was that the right order/timing on the burst combo? I've never played Taliyah, but it looked kind of often that the knockback was going off before the rocks were laid down, missing the burst damage from pushing them through the field.
E W allows you to buffer W. Doing W E is slower as E won't go off until W is cast
Also, Taliyah e does decreased damage after every trigger on the same target, down to 0% after the fourth rock hits them. So you can get the full damage just hitting them at the tail end of the push if the e was still unravelling earlier. The e timing is very flexible, you just need to land the w.
I LOVE playing Taliyah, I play in LAN and no one knows how to play against her.
I always carry with Taliyah
Show a video where u carry from behind on Taliyah to prove she’s broken. (I love Taliyah vids btw)
Oh wait second game xd
Does using Q prevent u from autoing on taliyah?
She rocks now. Badumm-tss.
Azir gameplay next? 😄
when I play taliyah she felt so squishy even a fart from enemy assassin can one shot me
Do you think you’ll be trying the Lich Bane Ahri build again anytime soon? I tried it (albeit modified a little for urf, bc I can’t be bothered to play solo q) and it’s actually really fun, especially when the enemy team runs way too fast or has too many dashes to ever hit e
So what happened to Taliyah being a scaling mage?
now i want to see a lichbane taliyah
yayy new video
Lich bane Taliyah wouldn't be that bad too probably huh since I'm pretty sure she can auto attack while throwing rocks
It’s dog, watch Odysseus131, Taliyah chall euw player tried it and it did no dmg
You can indeed, not sure that means it's good
yeah not surprised but its not as bad as it couldve been otherwise at least but yeah there's definitely better options out there
peking use the wall for ms when walking back to lane.
Perhaps a new skin coming soon?
Got a mythic skin last year, so should get another one in about half a decade.
i dont doubt it i was hardstuck bronze and after 10 games of taliyah i am silver 2
taliyah is so cool just rock
can you play Kindred mid for a video?
so which is it s+ or s-
Taliyah being trans makes her more loveable 😢
having a random obsession with rocks and boots only validates the theory
Midbeast gonna re-challenge Baus
worked ground big q slows use it then e w combo for everyone watching
All taliyah skins being blue 😫😫
Taliyah is s- tier
You.
Trolleg
❤@@PekinWoof
16:16 god I despise that champ
Hate lane gragas. He feels so unfair to me, his kit is too versatile and his e wins way too many interactions. 😑
man I hate the taliyah rework
You should do a collab with zwag or the for fun squad. I think it you really help your channel.
don't listen to Pekin Midbeans is inflating taliyah numbers
TALIYAHHH
The hiccups have got to *STOP!!*
I used to like this channel, but this is just unacceptable.
Play gragas mid, it’s pretty busted
S+ where
Taliyah W does do damage
Read the wiki again
@@PekinWoof huh, I was certain it did. My bad mr streamer pls spare me :(
@@wooliewurl3471it used to
Used to do damage, not since rework
champ super boring, could double all her buffs and still wouldn't touch her
Gragas, ryze, riven mid
You forgot to say shes completly broken, you normally say that about every champion you play shamelessly
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earlyyyyyyy gang