Since GM & Ford are basically stopping EV production due to lack of sales, consumers are speaking with their pocketbooks and not embracing EVs now that the early adopters have bought theirs and government incentives are disappearing.
E cars range performance is a key issue. Charging time, and charging station availability is another. Also, replacement batteries are insanely expensive.
It’s not lack of sales at all. It’s because they can’t get their act together on pricing and manufacturing. They can’t fulfill orders, which they are still taking and promoting.
We go from ice to ev’s like crazy while we tend to fly more and more emitting loads of Co2. Cruiseships use huge amounts of dirty fuel. No limits there. I love my petrol engine car.
The answer is to use cars responsibly. We ride E trikes as daily local transport, hire a car or van when justified/really needed. There is no need for E tanks. A Tesla has 3000 x the cells in our Trikes!
Let's talk about the additional 15% emissions to build EVs. Or how cars and appliances of today are built with plastics, composites and digital boards and designed to be replaced(trashed), rather than repaired.
You don't have any evidence to back up those false claims. BEVs will outlast ICE cars by a factor of 2:1 in the near future. Simple is best when it comes to longevity.
@@rogerfroud300Have you seen how much it costs to replace those EV batteries? Video on UA-cam of someone needing to pay $60,000, May as well buy a new car.
@rogerfroud300 My 94 F150 has over 305k miles. Still runs. If a part is failing, I can replace it without the dealership. Ridiculously simple to repair.
This is the fifth video shoved in my feed claiming to destroy EVs, each attributed to a major brand's research (video not by brand), and all with the same computer narrator doling out praise for a concept backed by nothing, while showing massive but irrelevant industry. To my knowledge, the premium European automakers have nothing beyond a plan to keep a fuel supply in place for classic heritage vehicles.
@@Brian-om2hh EV have hundreds of cells to fail spectacularly in Firey But Mostly Non Peaceful Protest. You didn't want to drive through a long tunnel, on a ferry or park in an underground parking garage anyway, did you?
@@robertkubrick3738 any you believe that? By 2030 ICE will make up 10% of new sales… it will be very healthy for the ICE repair market for decades tho….
@@tonyshipton8896 It's already happened. EV were always a NICHE market. EV aren't practical in so many ways. Example, who is going to let their young adult teen drive an EV that does 0-60mph in less than 4 seconds? What could go wrong?
@@Mojo702 European cars whilst not as reliable were a lot more exciting and desirable than Japanese cars. Where is the Japanese equivalent of Ferrari, Lamborghini, Aston Martin, Lotus, BMW, Mercedes? All EVs look similar and use similar components.
Really, one more... Engines that will destroy the EV industry have started to appear on a daily basis, but for some mysterious reason it is still not happening...
I like how the efficient ICE is shown with graphic of hundreds of complex parts moving every which way. Also talking at the same time of energy sapping particulate filters and catalytic converters. And then, put twice as many engines for hybridisation. And then again, using pie in the sky syn fuels which is defeating the one advantage of well established fossil fuels, they are cheap to drill out and processed in volume.
@@MrSinreelI don't know where you get your fuel, but in Australia we are paying 40% tax: 10% GST, plus a fuel excise of 30%. It's not subsidised at all. On the contrary, we are paying extra for the privilege of hydrocarbon fuels. When we had a carbon tax it was even more, but thankfully that nonsense was repealed.
@@vannersp and yet most fossil fuel companies are getting tax breaks and help from governments right across the board...this stuff isn't that difficult to find. Do you think maybe your research needs different parameters or are you being gaslit by your government and Murdock press?
Porsche is fully right to go for synthetic fuels as synthetic fuel have a very high energy content comparable to gasoline and when carefully designed (e.g. with some oxygen atoms in the molecule such as CH3OH) they burn very clean. The development of a synthetic fuel is not mentioned here any further, but is not a very strange nor extremely difficult one. Rather than hydrogen, synthetic fuel is much more easy to store and to transport as it is a liquid. No complicated fuel stations, no expensive and very heavy battery packs or charging stations. Battery packs that have a life time of only some 15 - 20 years ... And when the fuels are produced making use of the electricity produced in a nuclear power station (e.g. Thorium LFTR with an energy content of 10^7 times the one of oil) the problem of drilling for oil is solved including the high cost of expensive fuel oil and the fouling installations to produce the gasoline. Modifications to the engine are relatively minor .... As engineer myself in the field of combustion and energy production I fully agree with the approach Porsche engineers have chosen which is very practicle and not just copying what Tesla is doing ....
It's a double hit. In order to fuel and ICE vehicle, crude oil still requires refining. Coal and Oil plants are notoriously dirty, but, we are at least making an effort to go cleaner with wind, Solar and Hydro.
@DeepState-nf4bc Hiya, and Happy New Year. Can you explain that, please? My understanding of e-fuel is that the manufacturing process is lengthy and it's expensive.
The power source for charging electric cars also pollutes the environment especially when everyone moves to electric cars, they will not be able to handle the demand for electricity. A hybrid is good enough and Toyota is investing in hydrogen powered cars, they know the market.
This is actually not entirely true. Yes it does pollute but far less than if we continue to support the oil industry. There is a video you can check out called "can our infrastructure handle and all electric world" by startalk
I've got something that solves the energy crisis, drops the demand for fozzel fuels lowers out carbon foot print is tottaly eco friendly and wont demand parts and only some slight mati. Youll never buy tires agin. Can you guess what it is? It solves all our problems 100% Horse back, or in a buggy.
"e-fuels" are nowhere near as green as the producers claim. Until cellulose waste to alcohol production becomes economical, that will remain the case...
The opposed piston diesel engine will destroy everything else. Literally twice the power from the same charge of diesel. You could run it on peanut oil if you want.
That took maximum time for minimum information. Also, you kept switching back and forth between the one syllable and two syllable pronunciations of Porsche. Only the two syllable version is correct, so you had it wrong half the time. Don’t bother telling me I’m wrong. My son sells them and knows how to say it correctly without embarrassing those who don’t. I have no problem embarrassing those who don’t. Get it right. Also, get some actual content instead of just replaying the same guy approaching a gas pump, a factory scene, and very little else over and over while you drone on and on.
This whole video screams AI-generated, for the reasons you list. Repetitive content delivered in a monotone that doesn't know how to pronounce Porsche or Mach (Mashhhh?)
EVs appeal to me for two reasons: 1. Never having to sit in a line, waiting for fuel again. I can charge at home. 2. Cheaper to run #1 is already a reality #2 is waiting on better batteries / electricity storage that I expect will be introduced within the next 3-5 years
Yep. Those fearful of having their ICE cars replaced will eventually have to get on board. I’d wager people who don’t like EV’s have never even driven one. Battery technology is only going to get better whereas the ICE is reaching its theoretical limits. Sooner rather than later the EV will be cheaper than the equivalent ICE car
EFuels are nothing new, not renewable because of agricultural costs dependent on fossil fuels. However, an efficient engine combined with and electronic transmission, hybrid system is more carbon efficient than electric for 11 to 16 years yet.
I think nobody will deny that this engine is an absolute technical marvel and a development into more energy efficiency. No doubt. But it is much more complicated to be built (too many parts, in contrast to an electric engine complicated design, ...). It is super on the one hand but the engineering world has long time decided to further develop EVs which are only at their starting point of development. The battery problem will be solved soon, hydrogens, fuel cell cars or other new developments will take over. The advantages are simply too many, the over all dominant efficiency is simply in-built!!!
I’ve got both ICE and electric. The ICE cars are great for walking down memory lane and making wonderful noise, BUT as it turns out, it’s the electric I most often choose to drive.
@@swancini Firstly, I would just take one of my ICE cars if I needed to. If the power is off then you can’t pump fuel. If you use a backup generator to pump fuel, then you can charge your battery. Secondly, I live in a country where the state owns the electricity grid and has a better charging network than Tesla. We also have an excellent State Emergency Service and yes we do get Cyclones but our community works together to get things back up and running ASAP. So EV’s are an excellent choice here.
@@bentaxelrodno offense but only people that can't afford a high performing ICE car say an EV is fun to drive because it's cheap performance u were never able to afford. Theres a reason no rappers no athletes no one that has multi million dollar car collections drive a tesla. I've been in multiple EVs and never once while i was just crusing did I feel any excitement like high end ICE cars bring. Only when u accelerate is it fun. But if ur ICE car is fast too then it doesn't matter. Teslas for instance give u a single ipad and bulky steering wheel. It's just so dull and boring it doesn't feel like ur in a special car. Seeing a tesla on the road or at a car meet no one double takes, stares, or takes a pic. They are just plan jane and look like basic traffic. Seeing a high end porsche is rare and I bet ur checking it out the entire time.
@@G82Watts Yes I pretty much agree. When I want excitement and drama I take out one of my ICE cars. When I want a long distance quiet, smooth car on the highway as well as a good handling car through a mountain pass, with the acceleration of one of my supercharged ICE cars, then the Ioniq 6 ticks the boxes. The interior of a model 3 is a bit boring. Oops, just offended another Tesla fanboy.
How about some sporting hybrids? If we put slightly bigger motors in chassis with a sporting bias, maybe with a ragtop, in hybrid cars, we’d have the best of both worlds. A fast car that gets, say, 35-40 mpg might find a market!
You cant change the fact that a hub electric motor has one moving part. One hub motor in each wheel plus advanced power management is clearly the way to go for performance vehicles. Already the Volkswagen IDR gets up Pikes Peak faster than any ICE car, and we are still in the early years of development. How many moving parts in Porches ICE and transmission? Of course manufacturers want to keep ICE motors; they make billions selling spare parts, the more parts, the more to go wrong, the more profit. What about all the oil and filter changes? I feel i have done all that stuff over the years; decoking, reboring, lapping in valves, tuning timing and carburettors, then trying to get it ready for work on Monday morning. Let's face the facts; ICE have been a lot of fun, but they are complex and outdated 20th century technology, and who wants to breath the fumes?
How many parts are in a BEV battery pack? How difficult is it to repair or replace a part of that pack which is failing? Or cost and time required to replace the battery pack? I understand that some parts of electric cars are simpler and cheaper, but others are far more complex and expensive. I feel that on average they are on par with each other; at least they would be if the production and sale of key parts in EV were available in an open aftermarket. I also understand that bev car fires are not as rampant as some people would push. You need to acknowledge that bev fires are FAR more destructive to property and the environment than a similar sized ice powered car fire. The real problem with BEV’s is that most of the population can’t afford the combined costs of the more expensive car and outfitting their residence with charger or finding a reliable charger on top of the usual costs of car ownership. The time cost and restrictions that arise with EV’s is another issue for the general public. A LOT of people are not so great with keeping a set schedule and/or keeping track of outside factors which could cause issues with keeping a useful charge. The infrastructure support is not there for EV’s including repair shops with ability to get the parts. How many shops within 20 miles can easily get parts for a 7yr old Tesla in comparison to my 7yr old Toyota? So many related costs that just do not work out at this time.
@@dennismokry258 I'm talking about moving parts, because those are the things that wear, or sieze sometimes. Generally, solid state technology is moving in the direction of reliability. My concern is that China is leaping ahead of the States and EU on BEV's, and they are addressing the problems you describe. I guess their initial motivation was the extreme pollution they had in their cities, where they had to fall back on alternate day use of IC cars base on registration plates. If we don't catch up quickly there are a number of unfortunate possible outcomes; Firstly that Chinese BEV's take market share. Secondly, that protectionism is legislated to deprive us of superior technology. Thirdly, that we have to endure the health and unpleasantness of polluted towns and cities while China progresses to a much better environment. The answer is the same as it has always been, certainly in the US; get stuck in and compete with passion and commitment, don't get left behind, solve the technical and infrastructure issues. They are only problems arn't they? Good engineers and material scientists love a challenge.
@@alanserjeant4947 ..that is what fossil funded think-tanks and influencers are saying, and not what insurance statistics are revealing. You are probably reading this on a lithium powered device; are you worried about it bursting into flames? That phase in the development cycle has passed.
Europe has started putting charging stations under the streets so you can drive 700 miles and your electric cars still have a full charge and you can drive back the same 700 miles and when you get home your car is fully charged.no stops and the range doesn't matter They are going into the future past us! with charging stations underground like a cell phone. any electric car will do! They do not need the longer-range cars. they buy their cars as per the size of the family. Never stop to charge, never buy parts, never buy gasoline, and only get new batteries when the car reaches around 500,000 miles. This is the future find a way to make it work or quit! If you want to be part of the evil in this world sign the contract but leave the rest of us to our contracts. I'll take your car company and make it work!
Why do you want to keep the expensive battery pack. I suggest to use the synfuel as the energy carrier used in the car to produce the electricity that drives the car. So the ICE is just designed to produce electricity possibly temporarely stored in a super capacitor. ICE in that case could be a simple rotating disc engine as Mazda are using.
Nor is the cost of synthetic fuels mentioned. I've seen 3 or 4 UA-cam videos supposedly showing e fuels being developed. One particular point sticks out, and that is the cost of producing it. Some of those currently working on synth fuels, have commented that, with time and development, they may (may) be able to reduce the cost to 3 or 4 times the cost of unleaded gas/petrol.......
But that doesn't necessarily mean it "won't be there" in another 15 to 20 years. How comprehensive do you suppose the gas/petrol station infrastructure was, after just 10 years or so after the motor car first appeared?
To put things into perspective for you up until 1900 we used only horses and by 1915 almost everyone in the US was driving cars. This is the same argument people used against cars in the first place.
Really? What’s the most sold car in the world this year? (Tesla Model Y). And BYD is selling more cars than Tesla. Most big car manufacturers have clearly stated that ICEs belongs to the past.
I drive an EV mate. I know that we're outnumbered like you couldn't believe. You only need eyes for that, not some over-excitable nitwit who repeats himself. This video is awful!
Except it won’t destroy electric cars. Porsche’s are too expensive to begin with. And what technology is this Porsche engine leaning into to get that extra boost of power and efficiency? A battery. All Porsche has done is fine tune an antiquated ICE hybrid with more moving parts to break down. Hybrids are now equivalent of training wheels for people who are a little afraid to go in on an EV all the way. They have their place but that will disappear entitling about 10-15 years max. As to bio-fuels - they’ve been around for a 120 years and it really doesn’t amount to much. Alcohol fuel, ethanol, waste food oil, etcetera. And Chevron and THE entire petroleum industry might have a little something to say about substituting bio-fuel for gasoline. We try that with a bit with tonal. You could plant corn from coast to coast and it would never provide enough fuel to power alcohol fueled motors. There’s not enough BTU’s in it. This engine might show up in a few sports cars or at some concept car show, but it’s never really going to take hold in any meaningful way. It won’t destroy or effect the electric car at all. The title is click bait, the video producer just having mental masturbation with another hybrid internal combustion engine fascination and to drive viewership so they can make money..
Just look at that engine. I mean watch it again. All those valves, fuel injection, catalytic converters, complex valve time, fuel distribution system, exhaust system, particulate traps, not to mention all the hybrid crap, elevtric motors, regen braking. Look at it again and then tell me if it makes any sense whatsoever? The internal combustion engine has had over 100 years of development and has finally run out of road. Porsche knows this, Ford knows this. For goodness sake, wise up.
What does woke have to do with anything? The "engine" featured is a hybrid, so the battery/motor is complimented by an inline 6. Lexus were doing this 15 years ago. 🤣🤣🤣
How is it that Blume's engine is not adopted by its parent company and help VW regain market share instead of watching Chinese EVs eat their breakfast, lunch and soon...dinner too???
I'll use the Ford lightning vs the shelby F150 super snake sport as an example. The lightning is electric BUT has issues like, they cap the top speed to 105. Also the shelby will beat it in a drag race. Plus the downright performance and handling plus braking still means that electricity still has some developing to do.
In what scenario does a work truck become more useful at speeds over 100 mph ? I just wish it had more range when towing (at speeds that won't cause a fatal wreck).
What would be the cost of the E fuel $ wise and production cost. Crop land that would be needed for food & will have to compete for that space. E fuel vs food crops.
This is all well and good but there was no mention of the cost of synthetic fuel which I have been lead to believe is going to be somewhere in the region of £25 a litre, which is fine if you're in a position where you can afford to spend the equivalent of a small house on your car but for the rest of us it's not that great.
The synthetic fuel to be developed will be produced from water and electricity with a little carbon. And that fuel must be a liquid so that it can be transported without problems. What you need is a cheap source of electricity ..... and that source already exists in the form of a nuclear power station ... Question is whether we can build a more efficient nuclear power station than the existing ones and prefaribly in smaller units and yet extremely safe. And the answer is yes we can .... such as Thorium LFTR ..... but we did not build them as some very rich people wanted to get even richer from selling oil ...
@@JongJande That's very true but some wealthy people did invest in Thorium, apparently the British Queen had quite a substantial investment in Thorium mining but it won't help her a lot now.
Its so depressing to see how many people have absolutely not a single clue what they are talking about when they say shit like "co2 is good for plants so we need to make more of it" that is like saying fruit is good for you so you should eat about 10 pounds of bananas so that you are extra healthy. In other words your anouncing to the world you have the understanding of a 5th grader. If you actually took the time to calculate every data point to determine which vehicle is more environmentally friendly youd come to the conclusion that EV is the better option even when considering the lithium mining. Even when you try to argue that the electricity comes from fossil fuel anyway this argument is obsolete because we are transitioning to more green energy sources. If we went with nuclear that argument would be an absolute flop. Word of advice dont listen to politicians as your source of scientific knowledge. There are over 30,000 studies on climate change and almost all of them claim we contribute significantly to global warming. 30,000 is a number unheard of in the scientific community too. To have that much consistency is a HUGE sign you should probably consider taking their advice.
Very nice. The author is trying to say one sentence "porsche and some other car makers are trying to create more efficient combustion engines" within 10 minutes (repeating the same videoframes and words many times). Nothing concrete, no data, statistics or comparison. Just dreams. Hope next time you will manage to say the same sentence extending this video to 1 hour.
I'm waiting for the suppressed 200 MPG carburetor to finally be revealed. My wife's cousin's coworker bought a Ford truck that the gas gauge hardly moved in the first month and the dealer said they would fix it and gave him a brand new truck because the original had a secret prototype engine.
First choice for sure. I will never trade the engine roar, the vibration, the feeling that the car is a living thing for a soulless machine like the electric cars, no matter what everyone says about the subject.
Extended EV technology seem lost in space? A charging very low cc turbine generator to charge batteries if off grids and extremely low carbon emissions. Where is it???
The world is going electric. Combustion is expensive, uses a lot of parts and yields some torque, but low efficiency. Electricity is fundamentally more flexible energy. Our speed developing electric sources and propulsion systems is hundreds of times faster than ICE vehicles 100 years ago. We are moving far faster. Also, synthetic fuels are energy intensity hogs. They will never work. Biofuels are a fun experiment, but nothing else.
It should be water instead of hydrogen where the hydrogen is stripped from the water during driving. I think that guy eugene meyer was doing that and was stopped by "them". Look it up.
Think about the tank in your car.... In an ICE vehicle it it the tank that stores the energy needed to power the vehicle, In an EV vehicle it is the Battery that stores the energy needed to power the vehicle. Both the tank and the Battery need topping up...The tank takes a few minutes and the battery takes a lot longer. So i guess for speed between two places where the tank or the battery needs topping up, the tank wins every time because of the time saved topping up. Also in cold weather the battery will be used up quicker. Filling the tank v charging the battery is crucial as today there are not enough nearly charging stations and who wants charging stations outside every home or flat in the cities and elsewhere. The EV argument has not been thought out properly and it is obvious that the driving force for EVs is as usual....MONEY, PROFIT and GREED.
You forgot to mention that the "Tank" of the EV reduces in size every day from the instant it is first charged whether you drive it or not. It's the nature of Lithium Ion batteries. Unused batteries charged to 3.8V of their nominal max of 4.2V for storage and left in a climate controlled drawer lose 1% of capacity per year in Perfect storage conditions. Real world light usage and you are probably looking at 5% a year. There is a Tesla ride share driver at 120k miles and he is on his THIRD PACK under warranty and he wonders what he will do when he can no longer get a free pack cobbled together from two failed packs as replacement and he has to pay for them himself?
@@tonyshipton8896 Not the instant you take it out on the highway. My cousin has an S of the same age and I let him drive my 2015 Volvo gas beater and I never got it back.
Being 8 years old I get free supercharging for life, never selling this one.. 4 seconds to 60 and over 250 mile range, cost so far is wiper blades, tyres and cabin filter
I’ve read all the comments and no one has noticed…! That fantastic straight Six E-ICE motor they keep showing… the pictures are of a Flat 6 motor! Fake
John Kerry is going to promote a methane capture system that is connected to everyone's butt. He will fly his private jet to every city in the world to promote it !
And the cost? Will that process require electricity? Will the resulting bio fuel need transporting to wherever it is sold? Will that transportation emit Co2?
No need, it can be mixed in with normal gasoline. It's 94-06AKI though, so prob just mix in the premium tank. see "John Bucknell - Nuclear Plant Economics & Synthetic Fuel Cogeneration @ TEAC8"
I love my Porsche and will be getting a second car in a few years, probably a GT4 or maybe a 981 Spyder. They make imo the best mass produce cars on balance than anyone else. However until the CO2 myth is busted we’ll see crazy stuff like this. Reality is the entire world runs on oil/gas and there is no alternative that won’t destroy the worlds economy.
I still believe the hybrids will take us forward. Coming hybrids will include engines like the e-ice. A range of syn fuel types will be developed using ecologically sustained materials. Hydrogen will most likely NOT be in the mix at scale, but i digress.
now , all of a sudden, every automobile company worth its name has a revolutionary engine , giving double the mileage & reduced emission . may be a coincidence . they were not hiding these invensions on the behest of the US govt to keep the petrodollar up & running.
And in another 25 years, ICE cars may be little more than glorified paperweights, as oil runs dry, and the cost of producing fancy synthetic fuels becomes prohibitive.
@@irvinewayne4086 We already have GTL Gas to Liquid fuels ( like cleaner diesel) we can make from cheap cleaner natural gas. Also Methane is easy to transform into Methanol if you want the cleanest fuel. Distribution system is the same we have now.
ICE design has struggles to make only marginal gains, whereas BEV tech (batteries/range, motors, efficiency) has come on by leaps and bounds over the past few years. The future is electric, in part or in whole.
So basically an ICE. Very complex, many moving parts, needs cooling, lubrication, fossil fuel fired etc. I'll take a n E power plant over that anyday -- much simpler and very low maintenance.
Why the need for synthetic fuel, is because people still think oil is a fossil fuel; if they do then they are being fooled by a corporation marketing terminology.
This video is just a bunch of dreams and promises that will either never be delivered or have any significant impact in automotive transportation. How old are the points you're discussing here? Ford....really? What a joke.
When you mentioned the environmental impact of EVs you forgot to mention the mining of minerals and gathering the resources needed to make a battery which has its own effect on the environment.
Good well formated question. Unfortunately they wont answer or act on any of these serious problems. It's all about making money and manipulating the people.
Si ICE doesn't need mining for iron ore, aluminium, electronic parts, catalytic converters - not to mention the fossil fuels that are destroying the planet? See what you want to see. It's called confirmation bias.
Yet another clickbait title. "DESTROY". Utter nonsense, and not even a conclusion from the content anyway. Credibility in the toilet just there. Not Subscribed. Not liked.
I don't care how the motive force is produced to move my car. When I step on the accelerator, I expect INSTANT neck-snapping acceleration! Gas engines cannot produce maximum torque right off the bat; hence they need a gear box. Shifting gears takes time no matter how quick the gears can shift. That is why gas cars always lose in acceleration to EV's, especially to Tesla. Acceleration is what makes driving fun and slow acceleration annoys me now.
The internal combustion engine in the best cases has a maximum efficiency of 40%. This is due to its hundreds of moving parts that require a lot of lubrication and also preventive maintenance schedules including oil changes, filter changes, spark plug changes, belt changes, coolant changes, you still have to use a water pump, fuel pump, gearbox, torque converter or clutch......., a "contraption" that should already be in a museum.!.!.! We must also consider that every internal combustion engine, whatever type it is, generates a large amount of heat that must be "thrown away" by the cooling system, as we simply do not know how to take advantage of all this energy, and this also contributes to its low yield and efficiency. The electric motor has an output of approx. 95%, it basically has 1 moving part, thus eliminating all that preventive maintenance that its competitor requires. The problem until recently was the batteries. They were....., now batteries are evolving and solutions with better load capacity, lighter weight and faster recharge speed are quickly emerging. As this leads to financial rewards, there is great encouragement for research and development, which is already happening successfully on many fronts.
Now that the "majors" committed an awful lot of money to EVs that are encountering buyer's resistance, it is the perfect timing to offer better ICE. Old-fashioned competition. Now the politicians are going to "explain" everything.
*He unveiled a ground-breaking engine concept* Wait - what? He unveiled a _concept?_ So we’re years away from even a working prototype. Methinks EVs have nothing to worry about.
Methinks you have not understood it ... this concept is way simpler than EV's .... Problem is not to develop a synthetic fuel but to choose one that suits us best. So high energy content, not poisonous, not very explosive, not smelling too much, does not damage fuel hoses and tanks, does not dissociate, does not give rise to corrosion and hundered other requirements ..... And of course: synthetic fuels can be tanked with the existing normal fuel pumps.
@@JongJande *this concept is way simpler than EV's* But that’s the point: _concepts_ are a dime a dozen. Getting from a concept to a prototype will take years, if ever, assuming they can get that far. And getting from prototype to mass production is orders of magnitude harder than that. Even _if_ this concept makes it into mass production, it will take decades. And whether it will ever be economically viable is anyone’s guess.
I am pretty happy with my current car thanks. Only a crazy person would own an electric vehicle in Australia. Our climate is hot and unforgiving and we drive too far to charge the battery. Also I would rather buy a house than a Porsche! 😂
Best invention was already created then stolen and destroyed decades ago... There was an inline fuel heater can't remember the era I'm thinking it was in the 50's but I may be wrong. Anyway the heater would bring the gas to a vapor temp just as it was processed through the carburetor which led to almost complete combustion of the fossil fuels unlike even the best eco friendly cars of today. Sometimes we must look to the past to move to the future 😉....main thing is safety so I'll let the redesign of his invention to someone else not me!😅
Meanwhile Toyota is actually doing something different by trying to commercially produce hydrogen combustion engines that will emit no co2 just H2O vapor and won’t put a huge strain on the power grid.
Internal combustion engines are around 30% efficient because they have over a thousand moving parts that all create frictional loses, generate heat and noise and have one stroke that makes power and three strokes that require power. Ice manufacturers have been trying to get more power and efficiency from their engines for well over a century but they reached peak efficiency and now all they can do is to fit cheat devices. Ice fans seem to forget about all the processes required to get fossil fuels to the pump and all the pollution this requires. The layer of smog over our cities is real as is the huge numbers of people who die because of it. Eventually all our power will come from renewables and there will be sufficient charging infrastructure. Will Porsche save the ice? Will it bollocks😅
I have wanted to do away with ICE engines since about 1979 already. However I'm a realist - EVs are just not ready for full time use by everybody - there are just too many shortcomings still to be ironed out. So I'd say use hybrid tech in the meantime. This rubbish of so-called climate change being used to fleece the tax payers via tax subsidies that gets gobbled up by the manufacturers as well as the increased taxation of ICE engines must stop. That's just greedy tyranny.
I think you will all love this." Ford lost $36,000 per every electric vehicle it sold in the third quarter of 2023." That sounds like a terrific investment to me. Add to that that the government also chipped in to offer an amount to "help" the customer. So even if you do not own an EV you still help to pay for everyone else's EV.
I'll never own a strictly electric vehicle. The batteries are Sooooooooooooo expensive and they are super destructive to the environment if discarded by just, "Throwing it out into the woods."
Buy and charge EV is gonna be more affordable than use of Porsche synthetic gasoline. This new technology will be available only for super sport high-end cars, not for common use. And all of this is still in prototype tech. Don't forget hydrogen as a new fuel source, it is closer to cars and broad use.
If you want to prove, that the e-fuel concept has a future, no need to build a new engine. You have to show that the high energy losses from production to kinetic energy of the fossil car are over-compensated by producing e-fuels in areas with a large amount of natural energy like deserts. Sell e-fuels at petrol stations and then let the competition decide. The development of e-fuels is needed anyway (airplanes,…).
A lot of major manufacturers are feeling that they have over invested in EVs, and have got their fingers burned. You also gloss over the APPALLING mining required to create batteries.
Porsche said a few months back they would continue to make Petrol engines 'for the forseeable future' they obviously see the demise of the EV, shortly.
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So... Porsche wants to use an inline ICE engine in a mild hybrid setup?
Congrats for reinventing the Prius then, I guess...
Junk.
The were showing a flat 6 ......... and a V8
totally agree, going backwards instead of forwards. why isnt there self sustaining and powered vehicles right now is just ridiculous!!!
Yeah, I was with them until they said "hybrid". SMH
@@ChasingMidnight001dude doesn't even know how to pronounce mach e lol. It's not pronounced mosh it's like mock
Since GM & Ford are basically stopping EV production due to lack of sales, consumers are speaking with their pocketbooks and not embracing EVs now that the early adopters have bought theirs and government incentives are disappearing.
E cars range performance is a key issue. Charging time, and charging station availability is another. Also, replacement batteries are insanely expensive.
That’s why Tesla sales are up, Ford,GM, VW, Audi are all 1st Gen EV’s folks are still buying the best EV’s, simple as that
It’s not lack of sales at all. It’s because they can’t get their act together on pricing and manufacturing. They can’t fulfill orders, which they are still taking and promoting.
@@wambam1741it is a lack of sales for the OEM’s… they are stuck at the dealers and no one is buying
What will they embrace once oil runs dry?
We go from ice to ev’s like crazy while we tend to fly more and more emitting loads of Co2. Cruiseships use huge amounts of dirty fuel. No limits there. I love my petrol engine car.
Me, too. ❤
The answer is to use cars responsibly. We ride E trikes as daily local transport, hire a car or van when justified/really needed. There is no need for E tanks. A Tesla has 3000 x the cells in our Trikes!
me too
I loved my old cars too, but believe me, you can get over it.
@@christrees8576 You will get over being allowed to drive through long tunnels, on ferries or parking in parking garages too.
Let's talk about the additional 15% emissions to build EVs. Or how cars and appliances of today are built with plastics, composites and digital boards and designed to be replaced(trashed), rather than repaired.
You don't have any evidence to back up those false claims. BEVs will outlast ICE cars by a factor of 2:1 in the near future. Simple is best when it comes to longevity.
@@rogerfroud300Have you seen how much it costs to replace those EV batteries?
Video on UA-cam of someone needing to pay $60,000, May as well buy a new car.
@@rogerfroud300 I'm also uncomfortable with how children are mining the cobalt for EV batteries.
@rogerfroud300 My 94 F150 has over 305k miles. Still runs. If a part is failing, I can replace it without the dealership. Ridiculously simple to repair.
@@ShaneMcGrath. Or don't buy that car, buy a Tesla and stop worrying.
this video is very long on claims but very short on actual evidence.
This is the fifth video shoved in my feed claiming to destroy EVs, each attributed to a major brand's research (video not by brand), and all with the same computer narrator doling out praise for a concept backed by nothing, while showing massive but irrelevant industry.
To my knowledge, the premium European automakers have nothing beyond a plan to keep a fuel supply in place for classic heritage vehicles.
Turns out the engine that is going to destroy the EV is a "mild hybrid." 😂😂😂
And still has hundreds of moving parts to wear out or fail.
@@Brian-om2hh EV have hundreds of cells to fail spectacularly in Firey But Mostly Non Peaceful Protest. You didn't want to drive through a long tunnel, on a ferry or park in an underground parking garage anyway, did you?
@@robertkubrick3738 any you believe that? By 2030 ICE will make up 10% of new sales… it will be very healthy for the ICE repair market for decades tho….
@@tonyshipton8896 It's already happened. EV were always a NICHE market. EV aren't practical in so many ways. Example, who is going to let their young adult teen drive an EV that does 0-60mph in less than 4 seconds? What could go wrong?
That's what My son drives - Ford Puma
For some reasons, I'm not convinced whatsoever by this video clip. Let me revisit this in a year or so and see how it goes.
It’s as if it were funded by someone with a vested interest, like er… Porsche or shell?
Nah, I knew I was watching well informed and reliable content when he said 'l.b. eff eft of torque.' Lol
Well done Porsche. Now persuade VW to put that engine in a ‘People’s Car’.
Toyota is the #1 selling car, and they do have a hybrid that is not EV
VWs have their own issues. Let's go with something Japanese
@@Mojo702 European cars whilst not as reliable were a lot more exciting and desirable than Japanese cars. Where is the Japanese equivalent of Ferrari, Lamborghini, Aston Martin, Lotus, BMW, Mercedes?
All EVs look similar and use similar components.
@5ebra1 more desirable? yes. More reliable? No
@@5ebra1 Honda NSX, Lexus LFA, Nissan GTR, ets
CO2 is great for the environment. Makes the plants grow.
There’s always one….
TRUE!
Exactly
נכון מאוד ❤
CO2 is life.
Really, one more... Engines that will destroy the EV industry have started to appear on a daily basis, but for some mysterious reason it is still not happening...
The lack of mining will stop EV, they are not green.
@@ianbardon8581 You are right and when it comes time to get rid of all those over priced batteries that will be one more problem.
@@bignunja6732wrong, old batteries are valuable for recycling
Yep - vapourwear.
I like how the efficient ICE is shown with graphic of hundreds of complex parts moving every which way.
Also talking at the same time of energy sapping particulate filters and catalytic converters.
And then, put twice as many engines for hybridisation.
And then again, using pie in the sky syn fuels which is defeating the one advantage of well established fossil fuels, they are cheap to drill out and processed in volume.
Not so cheap if you actually pay all the costs, don't forget most cobalt is used to make gasoline, not batteries. An electric motor is not an engine.
So why do fossil fuel companies get tax break incentives of billions of dollars/pounds/rubles?
@@MrSinreelI don't know where you get your fuel, but in Australia we are paying 40% tax: 10% GST, plus a fuel excise of 30%. It's not subsidised at all. On the contrary, we are paying extra for the privilege of hydrocarbon fuels. When we had a carbon tax it was even more, but thankfully that nonsense was repealed.
@@vannersp and yet most fossil fuel companies are getting tax breaks and help from governments right across the board...this stuff isn't that difficult to find. Do you think maybe your research needs different parameters or are you being gaslit by your government and Murdock press?
@@MrSinreelAnything oil and gas is pittance compared rebats,subsidies,and tax incentives to electric
Porsche is fully right to go for synthetic fuels as synthetic fuel have a very high energy content comparable to gasoline and when carefully designed (e.g. with some oxygen atoms in the molecule such as CH3OH) they burn very clean. The development of a synthetic fuel is not mentioned here any further, but is not a very strange nor extremely difficult one. Rather than hydrogen, synthetic fuel is much more easy to store and to transport as it is a liquid. No complicated fuel stations, no expensive and very heavy battery packs or charging stations. Battery packs that have a life time of only some 15 - 20 years ... And when the fuels are produced making use of the electricity produced in a nuclear power station (e.g. Thorium LFTR with an energy content of 10^7 times the one of oil) the problem of drilling for oil is solved including the high cost of expensive fuel oil and the fouling installations to produce the gasoline.
Modifications to the engine are relatively minor ....
As engineer myself in the field of combustion and energy production I fully agree with the approach Porsche engineers have chosen which is very practicle and not just copying what Tesla is doing ....
Special E fuels? same problem as EV charging problems, where to fill up? or will every filling station have E fuels at their pumps?
Charging Problems solved by Tesla.. OEM’s will now all get to use Tesla chargers and Tesla Chargeport
IG Farben did that in WW2, this time will be way cheaper
Queuing it's like stopping the feed and water the horse , progress 😂
The cost of these fuels makes them uneconomic. Not only that, they are NOT Carbon neutral because the efficiency of the process is very low.
synthetic methanol in China/India is already $0.9/gallon, wake up to the real world.
@@rogerfroud300
Generate electricity from gas or coal, then use it to charge your EV and help the environment. What a great idea!
wind, solar and hydro sat this one out huh
Open your eyes outside the US bubble. Other countries are moving fast on renewable energy production
Electricity produced by coal & oil plants are way more efficient and cleaner than any internal combustion vehicles.
It's a double hit. In order to fuel and ICE vehicle, crude oil still requires refining.
Coal and Oil plants are notoriously dirty, but, we are at least making an effort to go cleaner with wind, Solar and Hydro.
@DeepState-nf4bc Hiya, and Happy New Year. Can you explain that, please?
My understanding of e-fuel is that the manufacturing process is lengthy and it's expensive.
The power source for charging electric cars also pollutes the environment especially when everyone moves to electric cars, they will not be able to handle the demand for electricity. A hybrid is good enough and Toyota is investing in hydrogen powered cars, they know the market.
Save this comment and look at it again at 2028. Things will move fast from here.
This is actually not entirely true. Yes it does pollute but far less than if we continue to support the oil industry. There is a video you can check out called "can our infrastructure handle and all electric world" by startalk
I've got something that solves the energy crisis, drops the demand for fozzel fuels lowers out carbon foot print is tottaly eco friendly and wont demand parts and only some slight mati. Youll never buy tires agin.
Can you guess what it is?
It solves all our problems 100%
Horse back, or in a buggy.
"e-fuels" are nowhere near as green as the producers claim. Until cellulose waste to alcohol production becomes economical, that will remain the case...
Reducing CO2 is anti-Green.
How exactly does the new engine literally destroy EV? Probably, bombastic.
The opposed piston diesel engine will destroy everything else. Literally twice the power from the same charge of diesel. You could run it on peanut oil if you want.
That took maximum time for minimum information. Also, you kept switching back and forth between the one syllable and two syllable pronunciations of Porsche. Only the two syllable version is correct, so you had it wrong half the time. Don’t bother telling me I’m wrong. My son sells them and knows how to say it correctly without embarrassing those who don’t. I have no problem embarrassing those who don’t. Get it right. Also, get some actual content instead of just replaying the same guy approaching a gas pump, a factory scene, and very little else over and over while you drone on and on.
This whole video screams AI-generated, for the reasons you list. Repetitive content delivered in a monotone that doesn't know how to pronounce Porsche or Mach (Mashhhh?)
At what cost??
We see all these new motors all the time on UA-cam that's always gonna be the next latest and greatest and noting ever comes of it!!
Sadly, whilst visually stunning, this is another misleading nonsense video that serves only as click-bait.
EVs appeal to me for two reasons:
1. Never having to sit in a line, waiting for fuel again. I can charge at home.
2. Cheaper to run
#1 is already a reality
#2 is waiting on better batteries / electricity storage that I expect will be introduced within the next 3-5 years
Yep. Those fearful of having their ICE cars replaced will eventually have to get on board.
I’d wager people who don’t like EV’s have never even driven one. Battery technology is only going to get better whereas the ICE is reaching its theoretical limits.
Sooner rather than later the EV will be cheaper than the equivalent ICE car
EFuels are nothing new, not renewable because of agricultural costs dependent on fossil fuels. However, an efficient engine combined with and electronic transmission, hybrid system is more carbon efficient than electric for 11 to 16 years yet.
I think nobody will deny that this engine is an absolute technical marvel and a development into more energy efficiency. No doubt. But it is much more complicated to be built (too many parts, in contrast to an electric engine complicated design, ...). It is super on the one hand but the engineering world has long time decided to further develop EVs which are only at their starting point of development. The battery problem will be solved soon, hydrogens, fuel cell cars or other new developments will take over. The advantages are simply too many, the over all dominant efficiency is simply in-built!!!
Porsche will "dominate" regardless the type vehicle built ..... honestly ..... its simply what they do
I’ve got both ICE and electric.
The ICE cars are great for walking down memory lane and making wonderful noise, BUT as it turns out, it’s the electric I most often choose to drive.
So your in Miami and a hurricane is barreling down at ya forcing a evacuation just hop in that EV and let’s see where you end up.
@@swancini
Firstly, I would just take one of my ICE cars if I needed to.
If the power is off then you can’t pump fuel.
If you use a backup generator to pump fuel, then you can charge your battery.
Secondly, I live in a country where the state owns the electricity grid and has a better charging network than Tesla.
We also have an excellent State Emergency Service and yes we do get Cyclones but our community works together to get things back up and running ASAP.
So EV’s are an excellent choice here.
@@bentaxelrodno offense but only people that can't afford a high performing ICE car say an EV is fun to drive because it's cheap performance u were never able to afford. Theres a reason no rappers no athletes no one that has multi million dollar car collections drive a tesla. I've been in multiple EVs and never once while i was just crusing did I feel any excitement like high end ICE cars bring. Only when u accelerate is it fun. But if ur ICE car is fast too then it doesn't matter. Teslas for instance give u a single ipad and bulky steering wheel. It's just so dull and boring it doesn't feel like ur in a special car. Seeing a tesla on the road or at a car meet no one double takes, stares, or takes a pic. They are just plan jane and look like basic traffic. Seeing a high end porsche is rare and I bet ur checking it out the entire time.
@@G82Wattsdistorted set of objectives regarding owning a car
@@G82Watts
Yes I pretty much agree.
When I want excitement and drama I take out one of my ICE cars.
When I want a long distance quiet, smooth car on the highway as well as a good handling car through a mountain pass, with the acceleration of one of my supercharged ICE cars, then the Ioniq 6 ticks the boxes.
The interior of a model 3 is a bit boring.
Oops, just offended another Tesla fanboy.
How about some sporting hybrids? If we put slightly bigger motors in chassis with a sporting bias, maybe with a ragtop, in hybrid cars, we’d have the best of both worlds. A fast car that gets, say, 35-40 mpg might find a market!
You cant change the fact that a hub electric motor has one moving part. One hub motor in each wheel plus advanced power management is clearly the way to go for performance vehicles. Already the Volkswagen IDR gets up Pikes Peak faster than any ICE car, and we are still in the early years of development. How many moving parts in Porches ICE and transmission? Of course manufacturers want to keep ICE motors; they make billions selling spare parts, the more parts, the more to go wrong, the more profit. What about all the oil and filter changes? I feel i have done all that stuff over the years; decoking, reboring, lapping in valves, tuning timing and carburettors, then trying to get it ready for work on Monday morning. Let's face the facts; ICE have been a lot of fun, but they are complex and outdated 20th century technology, and who wants to breath the fumes?
You also can't change the fact the electric vehicles are catching fire in alarming numbers.
How many parts are in a BEV battery pack? How difficult is it to repair or replace a part of that pack which is failing? Or cost and time required to replace the battery pack? I understand that some parts of electric cars are simpler and cheaper, but others are far more complex and expensive. I feel that on average they are on par with each other; at least they would be if the production and sale of key parts in EV were available in an open aftermarket. I also understand that bev car fires are not as rampant as some people would push. You need to acknowledge that bev fires are FAR more destructive to property and the environment than a similar sized ice powered car fire.
The real problem with BEV’s is that most of the population can’t afford the combined costs of the more expensive car and outfitting their residence with charger or finding a reliable charger on top of the usual costs of car ownership. The time cost and restrictions that arise with EV’s is another issue for the general public. A LOT of people are not so great with keeping a set schedule and/or keeping track of outside factors which could cause issues with keeping a useful charge. The infrastructure support is not there for EV’s including repair shops with ability to get the parts. How many shops within 20 miles can easily get parts for a 7yr old Tesla in comparison to my 7yr old Toyota?
So many related costs that just do not work out at this time.
@@dennismokry258 I'm talking about moving parts, because those are the things that wear, or sieze sometimes. Generally, solid state technology is moving in the direction of reliability. My concern is that China is leaping ahead of the States and EU on BEV's, and they are addressing the problems you describe. I guess their initial motivation was the extreme pollution they had in their cities, where they had to fall back on alternate day use of IC cars base on registration plates. If we don't catch up quickly there are a number of unfortunate possible outcomes; Firstly that Chinese BEV's take market share. Secondly, that protectionism is legislated to deprive us of superior technology. Thirdly, that we have to endure the health and unpleasantness of polluted towns and cities while China progresses to a much better environment. The answer is the same as it has always been, certainly in the US; get stuck in and compete with passion and commitment, don't get left behind, solve the technical and infrastructure issues. They are only problems arn't they? Good engineers and material scientists love a challenge.
@@alanserjeant4947 ..that is what fossil funded think-tanks and influencers are saying, and not what insurance statistics are revealing. You are probably reading this on a lithium powered device; are you worried about it bursting into flames? That phase in the development cycle has passed.
@@ashoakwillow Have you not seen the cargo boats with hundreds of EV's on fire ?
Europe has started putting charging stations under the streets so you can drive 700 miles and your electric cars still have a full charge and you can drive back the same 700 miles and when you get home your car is fully charged.no stops and the range doesn't matter They are going into the future past us! with charging stations underground like a cell phone. any electric car will do! They do not need the longer-range cars. they buy their cars as per the size of the family. Never stop to charge, never buy parts, never buy gasoline, and only get new batteries when the car reaches around 500,000 miles. This is the future find a way to make it work or quit! If you want to be part of the evil in this world sign the contract but leave the rest of us to our contracts. I'll take your car company and make it work!
Synfuels can be used to generate electricity for charging EVs
Why do you want to keep the expensive battery pack. I suggest to use the synfuel as the energy carrier used in the car to produce the electricity that drives the car. So the ICE is just designed to produce electricity possibly temporarely stored in a super capacitor. ICE in that case could be a simple rotating disc engine as Mazda are using.
The last best horse carriage company in the Ford Model T era. Now, that horse carriage company has a name “Porsche “. Best of luck “Porsche”.
Refers to Efuels at least ten times but does not explain what they are and how they reduce CO2
Nor is the cost of synthetic fuels mentioned. I've seen 3 or 4 UA-cam videos supposedly showing e fuels being developed. One particular point sticks out, and that is the cost of producing it. Some of those currently working on synth fuels, have commented that, with time and development, they may (may) be able to reduce the cost to 3 or 4 times the cost of unleaded gas/petrol.......
They don't.
Anything vs putting all your eggs in one basket. Especially when the infrastructure and range are simply not yet there yet.
But that doesn't necessarily mean it "won't be there" in another 15 to 20 years. How comprehensive do you suppose the gas/petrol station infrastructure was, after just 10 years or so after the motor car first appeared?
To put things into perspective for you up until 1900 we used only horses and by 1915 almost everyone in the US was driving cars. This is the same argument people used against cars in the first place.
There is no "dominance of EVs" to challenge.
Really? What’s the most sold car in the world this year? (Tesla Model Y). And BYD is selling more cars than Tesla.
Most big car manufacturers have clearly stated that ICEs belongs to the past.
I drive an EV mate. I know that we're outnumbered like you couldn't believe. You only need eyes for that, not some over-excitable nitwit who repeats himself. This video is awful!
Can you say "AI generated video"? Bleh!
Welcome to UA-cam
Except it won’t destroy electric cars.
Porsche’s are too expensive to begin with.
And what technology is this Porsche engine leaning into to get that extra boost of power and efficiency? A battery.
All Porsche has done is fine tune an antiquated ICE hybrid with more moving parts to break down. Hybrids are now equivalent of training wheels for people who are a little afraid to go in on an EV all the way. They have their place but that will disappear entitling about 10-15 years max.
As to bio-fuels - they’ve been around for a 120 years and it really doesn’t amount to much. Alcohol fuel, ethanol, waste food oil, etcetera. And Chevron and THE entire petroleum industry might have a little something to say about substituting bio-fuel for gasoline. We try that with a bit with tonal. You could plant corn from coast to coast and it would never provide enough fuel to power alcohol fueled motors. There’s not enough BTU’s in it.
This engine might show up in a few sports cars or at some concept car show, but it’s never really going to take hold in any meaningful way. It won’t destroy or effect the electric car at all. The title is click bait, the video producer just having mental masturbation with another hybrid internal combustion engine fascination and to drive viewership so they can make money..
Electric cars will destroy electric cars.
@@robertkubrick3738 a lot less frequently than the gas car will by a ratio of 1000 to one
@@wambam1741 I meant experience with EV but okay. Road debris will destroy EV.
Just look at that engine. I mean watch it again. All those valves, fuel injection, catalytic converters, complex valve time, fuel distribution system, exhaust system, particulate traps, not to mention all the hybrid crap, elevtric motors, regen braking.
Look at it again and then tell me if it makes any sense whatsoever?
The internal combustion engine has had over 100 years of development and has finally run out of road. Porsche knows this, Ford knows this. For goodness sake, wise up.
Good bless, Blum has balls to hold off the woke movement at Porsche as others run to the cliffs of EV
What does woke have to do with anything? The "engine" featured is a hybrid, so the battery/motor is complimented by an inline 6.
Lexus were doing this 15 years ago. 🤣🤣🤣
How is it that Blume's engine is not adopted by its parent company and help VW regain market share instead of watching Chinese EVs eat their breakfast, lunch and soon...dinner too???
I'll use the Ford lightning vs the shelby F150 super snake sport as an example.
The lightning is electric BUT has issues like, they cap the top speed to 105.
Also the shelby will beat it in a drag race.
Plus the downright performance and handling plus braking still means that electricity still has some developing to do.
Answer = CyberTruck
In what scenario does a work truck become more useful at speeds over 100 mph ? I just wish it had more range when towing (at speeds that won't cause a fatal wreck).
A Civic beats most Teslards on Autobahn; A type R, beats Plaid after 10 miles
Worthless hype - hyperloop 😁😁😁😁😁@@tonyshipton8896
😂😂😂😂😂😂@@tonyshipton8896
What would be the cost of the E fuel $ wise and production cost. Crop land that would be needed for food & will have to compete for that space. E fuel vs food crops.
This is all well and good but there was no mention of the cost of synthetic fuel which I have been lead to believe is going to be somewhere in the region of £25 a litre, which is fine if you're in a position where you can afford to spend the equivalent of a small house on your car but for the rest of us it's not that great.
The synthetic fuel to be developed will be produced from water and electricity with a little carbon. And that fuel must be a liquid so that it can be transported without problems. What you need is a cheap source of electricity ..... and that source already exists in the form of a nuclear power station ... Question is whether we can build a more efficient nuclear power station than the existing ones and prefaribly in smaller units and yet extremely safe. And the answer is yes we can .... such as Thorium LFTR ..... but we did not build them as some very rich people wanted to get even richer from selling oil ...
@@JongJande That's very true but some wealthy people did invest in Thorium, apparently the British Queen had quite a substantial investment in Thorium mining but it won't help her a lot now.
Its so depressing to see how many people have absolutely not a single clue what they are talking about when they say shit like "co2 is good for plants so we need to make more of it" that is like saying fruit is good for you so you should eat about 10 pounds of bananas so that you are extra healthy. In other words your anouncing to the world you have the understanding of a 5th grader.
If you actually took the time to calculate every data point to determine which vehicle is more environmentally friendly youd come to the conclusion that EV is the better option even when considering the lithium mining. Even when you try to argue that the electricity comes from fossil fuel anyway this argument is obsolete because we are transitioning to more green energy sources. If we went with nuclear that argument would be an absolute flop. Word of advice dont listen to politicians as your source of scientific knowledge. There are over 30,000 studies on climate change and almost all of them claim we contribute significantly to global warming. 30,000 is a number unheard of in the scientific community too. To have that much consistency is a HUGE sign you should probably consider taking their advice.
The Chevy Volt with electric motor that has a range extending ICE generator is a great car.
How much distance do you get roughly with one of these cars, I have never seen or been in one, here in On't Canada there few and far between
Very nice. The author is trying to say one sentence "porsche and some other car makers are trying to create more efficient combustion engines" within 10 minutes (repeating the same videoframes and words many times). Nothing concrete, no data, statistics or comparison. Just dreams. Hope next time you will manage to say the same sentence extending this video to 1 hour.
I'm waiting for the suppressed 200 MPG carburetor to finally be revealed. My wife's cousin's coworker bought a Ford truck that the gas gauge hardly moved in the first month and the dealer said they would fix it and gave him a brand new truck because the original had a secret prototype engine.
"Things that never happened for $500 Bob" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
There is another ship carrying lithium batteries on fire parked off the Alaska coast.
The question is: You prefer an engine with hundreds of moving parts or a motor with two parts with the same or better performance.
First choice
Me too. First choice hands down. ICE cars are great.
First choice for sure. I will never trade the engine roar, the vibration, the feeling that the car is a living thing for a soulless machine like the electric cars, no matter what everyone says about the subject.
Extended EV technology seem lost in space? A charging very low cc turbine generator to charge batteries if off grids and extremely low carbon emissions. Where is it???
E-fuel or hydrogen seems to be the future. I'm going to definitely switch over to one of these from my current Tesla.👍
The world is going electric. Combustion is expensive, uses a lot of parts and yields some torque, but low efficiency. Electricity is fundamentally more flexible energy. Our speed developing electric sources and propulsion systems is hundreds of times faster than ICE vehicles 100 years ago. We are moving far faster.
Also, synthetic fuels are energy intensity hogs. They will never work. Biofuels are a fun experiment, but nothing else.
Where does hydrogen works well? How much does the hydrogen cost in California?
It should be water instead of hydrogen where the hydrogen is stripped from the water during driving. I think that guy eugene meyer was doing that and was stopped by "them". Look it up.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@IanPunter I know a guy who comes with a crazy statement. Then ends that with “look it up”. Yeah… it sounds so stupid doesn’t it?
To produce all those batteries for EV’s, entire jungles are bulldozed to get to the metals. I believe much more in this plan from Porsche.
Yeah, because the Porsche hybrid doesn't use giant batteries either.🤦♂️🤦♀️🤦
Think about the tank in your car....
In an ICE vehicle it it the tank that stores the energy needed to power the vehicle,
In an EV vehicle it is the Battery that stores the energy needed to power the vehicle.
Both the tank and the Battery need topping up...The tank takes a few minutes and the battery takes a lot longer.
So i guess for speed between two places where the tank or the battery needs topping up, the tank wins every time because of the time saved topping up.
Also in cold weather the battery will be used up quicker.
Filling the tank v charging the battery is crucial as today there are not enough nearly charging stations and who wants charging stations outside every home or flat in the cities and elsewhere.
The EV argument has not been thought out properly and it is obvious that the driving force for EVs is as usual....MONEY, PROFIT and GREED.
You forgot to mention that the "Tank" of the EV reduces in size every day from the instant it is first charged whether you drive it or not. It's the nature of Lithium Ion batteries. Unused batteries charged to 3.8V of their nominal max of 4.2V for storage and left in a climate controlled drawer lose 1% of capacity per year in Perfect storage conditions. Real world light usage and you are probably looking at 5% a year. There is a Tesla ride share driver at 120k miles and he is on his THIRD PACK under warranty and he wonders what he will do when he can no longer get a free pack cobbled together from two failed packs as replacement and he has to pay for them himself?
My Tesla Model S is 8 years old with 92% battery…
@@tonyshipton8896 Not the instant you take it out on the highway. My cousin has an S of the same age and I let him drive my 2015 Volvo gas beater and I never got it back.
Being 8 years old I get free supercharging for life, never selling this one.. 4 seconds to 60 and over 250 mile range, cost so far is wiper blades, tyres and cabin filter
@@tonyshipton8896 Even with all that, my cousin would rather drive my 2015 XC60.
Where do we get the e-fuel?
I’ve read all the comments and no one has noticed…! That fantastic straight Six E-ICE motor they keep showing… the pictures are of a Flat 6 motor! Fake
Where does the synthetic fuel come from? How is it made?
John Kerry is going to promote a methane capture system that is connected to everyone's butt. He will fly his private jet to every city in the world to promote it !
Plastic massively refined once is easily turned into a bio fuel ⛽️ !
And the cost? Will that process require electricity? Will the resulting bio fuel need transporting to wherever it is sold? Will that transportation emit Co2?
What gas station is going to add a tank just for Porsche’s synthetic fuel?
No need, it can be mixed in with normal gasoline. It's 94-06AKI though, so prob just mix in the premium tank. see "John Bucknell - Nuclear Plant Economics & Synthetic Fuel Cogeneration @ TEAC8"
Beautiful cars hope I can have one 😊
I love my Porsche and will be getting a second car in a few years, probably a GT4 or maybe a 981 Spyder. They make imo the best mass produce cars on balance than anyone else.
However until the CO2 myth is busted we’ll see crazy stuff like this. Reality is the entire world runs on oil/gas and there is no alternative that won’t destroy the worlds economy.
I still believe the hybrids will take us forward. Coming hybrids will include engines like the e-ice. A range of syn fuel types will be developed using ecologically sustained materials. Hydrogen will most likely NOT be in the mix at scale, but i digress.
now , all of a sudden, every automobile company worth its name has a revolutionary engine , giving double the mileage & reduced emission .
may be a coincidence . they were not hiding these invensions on the behest of the US govt to keep the petrodollar up & running.
Allelujah for the revolutionary combustion engines. EV's are nothing but glorified expensive go karts with limited range.
And in another 25 years, ICE cars may be little more than glorified paperweights, as oil runs dry, and the cost of producing fancy synthetic fuels becomes prohibitive.
I call BS. I drive an old Porsche. Which is brilliant but ICE in passenger cars is over.
How do you transport the synthetic fuel worldwide? How expensive will that be? How environmentally friendly?
Co2 is good for plants.. no co2 no life. Go back to school
Exactly. The cost will be prohibitive.
IG Farben did that in WW2, this time will be way cheaper, with the eastern bloc on board
@@irvinewayne4086 We already have GTL Gas to Liquid fuels ( like cleaner diesel) we can make from cheap cleaner natural gas. Also Methane is easy to transform into Methanol if you want the cleanest fuel. Distribution system is the same we have now.
Yes indeed! the Best route to the greener future - Congrats! @@robertkubrick3738
Awesome bring it on, something that finally makes sense!!
Great probably $150,000 plus .Only a dream EV motors are much more simple and reliable.
They’re not more reliable
Yes they are mine is five years old and never had to be serviced say that about an ice GM car.
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The Otto cycle tops off efficiency around 35 percent. You can add hybrid as much as you want, but 500 horse power is way too much for most cars.
But happens to come nearly for free in battery EVs (meaning little impact on day-to-day efficiency). So why not?
Ev cars do Not reduce overall pollution. Wonder why some think they do?
You're right especially when they catch fire, 😂
It is not an in line 6 cylinder engine, it is a V6 engine.
It’s not a v6, it’s a flat 6 boxer engine
There is always room for improvement in engine making
ICE design has struggles to make only marginal gains, whereas BEV tech (batteries/range, motors, efficiency) has come on by leaps and bounds over the past few years. The future is electric, in part or in whole.
LOL. Not a chance. Nice to know they will shutter by their own hand.
So basically an ICE. Very complex, many moving parts, needs cooling, lubrication, fossil fuel fired etc. I'll take a n E power plant over that anyday -- much simpler and very low maintenance.
Plus you can "fill up" at home for way less cost that using gas stations....
Why the need for synthetic fuel, is because people still think oil is a fossil fuel; if they do then they are being fooled by a corporation marketing terminology.
This video is just a bunch of dreams and promises that will either never be delivered or have any significant impact in automotive transportation. How old are the points you're discussing here? Ford....really? What a joke.
+1 .. To the power of 10.
As was EVs for a very, very, long time.
When you mentioned the environmental impact of EVs you forgot to mention the mining of minerals and gathering the resources needed to make a battery which has its own effect on the environment.
Good well formated question. Unfortunately they wont answer or act on any of these serious problems.
It's all about making money and manipulating the people.
Si ICE doesn't need mining for iron ore, aluminium, electronic parts, catalytic converters - not to mention the fossil fuels that are destroying the planet? See what you want to see. It's called confirmation bias.
Yet another clickbait title. "DESTROY". Utter nonsense, and not even a conclusion from the content anyway. Credibility in the toilet just there. Not Subscribed. Not liked.
DOA. The opposed piston diesel engine will destroy this or EV. If you want to add hybrid to it, go ahead but it's a waste of time.
Reading these comments confirms that petrol heads are scared of the future.
I don't care how the motive force is produced to move my car.
When I step on the accelerator, I expect INSTANT neck-snapping acceleration!
Gas engines cannot produce maximum torque right off the bat; hence they need a gear box.
Shifting gears takes time no matter how quick the gears can shift.
That is why gas cars always lose in acceleration to EV's, especially to Tesla.
Acceleration is what makes driving fun and slow acceleration annoys me now.
What if we have a bioelectrical engines capable to improve synthetic fuels perfomance and durability ?
Catalizer that works better is also a nice idea... for older cars...
The internal combustion engine in the best cases has a maximum efficiency of 40%. This is due to its hundreds of moving parts that require a lot of lubrication and also preventive maintenance schedules including oil changes, filter changes, spark plug changes, belt changes, coolant changes, you still have to use a water pump, fuel pump, gearbox, torque converter or clutch......., a "contraption" that should already be in a museum.!.!.!
We must also consider that every internal combustion engine, whatever type it is, generates a large amount of heat that must be "thrown away" by the cooling system, as we simply do not know how to take advantage of all this energy, and this also contributes to its low yield and efficiency.
The electric motor has an output of approx. 95%, it basically has 1 moving part, thus eliminating all that preventive maintenance that its competitor requires. The problem until recently was the batteries.
They were....., now batteries are evolving and solutions with better load capacity, lighter weight and faster recharge speed are quickly emerging. As this leads to financial rewards, there is great encouragement for research and development, which is already happening successfully on many fronts.
Porsche is the best, it will save the auto industry just like Nintendo did in the US for the gaming industry.
Now that the "majors" committed an awful lot of money to EVs that are encountering buyer's resistance, it is the perfect timing to offer better ICE. Old-fashioned competition. Now the politicians are going to "explain" everything.
*He unveiled a ground-breaking engine concept*
Wait - what? He unveiled a _concept?_ So we’re years away from even a working prototype. Methinks EVs have nothing to worry about.
Methinks you have not understood it ... this concept is way simpler than EV's ....
Problem is not to develop a synthetic fuel but to choose one that suits us best. So high energy content, not poisonous, not very explosive, not smelling too much, does not damage fuel hoses and tanks, does not dissociate, does not give rise to corrosion and hundered other requirements .....
And of course: synthetic fuels can be tanked with the existing normal fuel pumps.
@@JongJande *this concept is way simpler than EV's*
But that’s the point: _concepts_ are a dime a dozen. Getting from a concept to a prototype will take years, if ever, assuming they can get that far. And getting from prototype to mass production is orders of magnitude harder than that.
Even _if_ this concept makes it into mass production, it will take decades. And whether it will ever be economically viable is anyone’s guess.
Love my Nissan Altima. 2014. 40 miles per gallon.
Last time I checked, hybrid is partially electric. Lol
I am pretty happy with my current car thanks. Only a crazy person would own an electric vehicle in Australia. Our climate is hot and unforgiving and we drive too far to charge the battery. Also I would rather buy a house than a Porsche! 😂
Best invention was already created then stolen and destroyed decades ago... There was an inline fuel heater can't remember the era I'm thinking it was in the 50's but I may be wrong. Anyway the heater would bring the gas to a vapor temp just as it was processed through the carburetor which led to almost complete combustion of the fossil fuels unlike even the best eco friendly cars of today. Sometimes we must look to the past to move to the future 😉....main thing is safety so I'll let the redesign of his invention to someone else not me!😅
Meanwhile Toyota is actually doing something different by trying to commercially produce hydrogen combustion engines that will emit no co2 just H2O vapor and won’t put a huge strain on the power grid.
H2O is a better insulator than CO2 so that would actually make "global warming" worse if you believe in it.
Internal combustion engines are around 30% efficient because they have over a thousand moving parts that all create frictional loses, generate heat and noise and have one stroke that makes power and three strokes that require power. Ice manufacturers have been trying to get more power and efficiency from their engines for well over a century but they reached peak efficiency and now all they can do is to fit cheat devices. Ice fans seem to forget about all the processes required to get fossil fuels to the pump and all the pollution this requires. The layer of smog over our cities is real as is the huge numbers of people who die because of it. Eventually all our power will come from renewables and there will be sufficient charging infrastructure. Will Porsche save the ice? Will it bollocks😅
I have wanted to do away with ICE engines since about 1979 already. However I'm a realist - EVs are just not ready for full time use by everybody - there are just too many shortcomings still to be ironed out. So I'd say use hybrid tech in the meantime. This rubbish of so-called climate change being used to fleece the tax payers via tax subsidies that gets gobbled up by the manufacturers as well as the increased taxation of ICE engines must stop. That's just greedy tyranny.
WOW. When oil ends, then your BS is over.
I think you will all love this." Ford lost $36,000 per every electric vehicle it sold in the third quarter of 2023." That sounds like a terrific investment to me. Add to that that the government also chipped in to offer an amount to "help" the customer. So even if you do not own an EV you still help to pay for everyone else's EV.
Co2 is a rare gas. It amounts to 400 particles per million in the atmosphere.
I'll never own a strictly electric vehicle. The batteries are Sooooooooooooo expensive and they are super destructive to the environment if discarded by just,
"Throwing it out into the woods."
Buy and charge EV is gonna be more affordable than use of Porsche synthetic gasoline. This new technology will be available only for super sport high-end cars, not for common use. And all of this is still in prototype tech.
Don't forget hydrogen as a new fuel source, it is closer to cars and broad use.
If you want to prove, that the e-fuel concept has a future, no need to build a new engine.
You have to show that the high energy losses from production to kinetic energy of the fossil car are over-compensated by producing e-fuels in areas with a large amount of natural energy like deserts. Sell e-fuels at petrol stations and then let the competition decide. The development of e-fuels is needed anyway (airplanes,…).
Did you say Bloom's engine ?
As in bloom Electric?
A lot of major manufacturers are feeling that they have over invested in EVs, and have got their fingers burned. You also gloss over the APPALLING mining required to create batteries.
It’s big oil companies that are holding back hydrogen they want to keep on using petrol and keep the money rolling in
Porsche said a few months back they would continue to make Petrol engines 'for the forseeable future' they obviously see the demise of the EV, shortly.