2 years of Japanese Immersion - 2,600 hours of Japanese Progress

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  • @Eoaiyer21987rhei
    @Eoaiyer21987rhei Рік тому +85

    I like the way this guy is like "Amazing" "my progress is incredible". Good to get a bit of positivity! Japanese is such a long grind, wouldn't surprise me if that attitude is part of the reason he's lasted 2 years when the vast majority do not.

    • @waldenperry
      @waldenperry  Рік тому +17

      It’s very hard to stay positive about it, but I think i can be objective that I’m both not great at Japanese still, and be proud of how far I’ve come. I’ve tried some practice n1 reading passages since this vid and completely bombed the questions which tbh was pretty upsetting lmao. I think I’d rephrase your idea to “people who can’t manage their attitude won’t make it”

    • @flashgordon6510
      @flashgordon6510 5 місяців тому +2

      @@waldenperry I just recently passed my two-year mark too. Dedicated daily study, taking lessons with an iTalki teacher every week, using WaniKani daily to learn kanji, etc. Reading is going well, but speaking, oh my gosh... so hard. I do a conversation class on Mondays with other students on my level, and it's reassuring to see other people speaking about as clumsily as I do, but I made the mistake of taking a higher-level class that was all in Japanese, and I felt lost and humiliated. Took a while to come back from that emotionally... It's so good to hear realistic expectations and progress from other learners. I love the language, and I've definitely made a lot of progress, but it is a long, long journey.

  • @ariah5093
    @ariah5093 Рік тому +19

    I just passed the one-year mark!! It's so much fun. Every day I learn new words and immediately hear them being used in anime and everyday use! It makes it so worth it to study❤️

  • @glass-yuzu
    @glass-yuzu Рік тому +18

    The searching in the language is wicked useful !
    For me, restricting my interactions with my most common daily tasks to solely my target language made me way more confident using and reading in such a short timeframe (note-taking, google, basically anything on my phone, too)

  • @synthessencee
    @synthessencee Рік тому +16

    Wow!! Thank you for this it was SO helpful. Im just finishing out Japanese 100 series at school and wanting to take it to the next level independently, this was really useful for where to start, also just inspiring

    • @waldenperry
      @waldenperry  Рік тому +2

      You probably know more than me when I started immersing a ton lol. Good luck!

  • @moditb3247
    @moditb3247 Рік тому +13

    For me, writing is the most fun part of japanese. Kanji's are just so fun.

    • @laeebcitycenter
      @laeebcitycenter 10 місяців тому +3

      Me too idk why every Japanese learner tells me they hate or are scared of kanji😭

    • @chiki1010
      @chiki1010 6 місяців тому

      fr like new plus listen means newspaper. it makes me feel like caveman lol i love it

  • @stronglikebo221
    @stronglikebo221 Рік тому +6

    Bro keep it up, this video was inspirational. Honest analysis and no bs clickbate stuff. Good stuff, I’m a fan

    • @waldenperry
      @waldenperry  Рік тому +5

      You’re not going to buy my course? Shame.

  • @bluemoonefl3503
    @bluemoonefl3503 Рік тому +4

    The geoguesser thing is actually big brain I never thought of that

  • @gabetweedie774
    @gabetweedie774 4 місяці тому +1

    You are awesome dude. The fitness part at the end was unexpected, but showed a ton of progress. I love seeing people improve themselves, it motivates me to do the same. Awesome Job!!

    • @gabetweedie774
      @gabetweedie774 4 місяці тому

      Also, if you ever see this, what was the song at the end?

    • @waldenperry
      @waldenperry  4 місяці тому

      @@gabetweedie774 Thanks! I'm working on the year 3 video right now actually. The song is called エゴイズム

  • @j5679
    @j5679 Рік тому +3

    I'm half a year into this myself, just hit 5k cards. I still have a very long way ahead of me but DANG was your video a motivational bombshell! Will definitely come back to it in times of despair. We're all gonna make it :)

    • @F7INN
      @F7INN 4 місяці тому +1

      5K cards in 6 months :0 That's nearly 30 a day! I'm struggling with 10 cards a day tbh. How is your japanese getting on 10 months later?

  • @PatChatGC
    @PatChatGC 7 місяців тому +1

    Great update! Always love seeing updates that talk about non-japanese health stuff. I always “knew” I should focus on health but it took me 6+ years to truely understand it and actually make a change.
    Congrats on all the progress and good luck on the goals (which I know are already 9 months old now haha)

  • @MapleLeafTranslations
    @MapleLeafTranslations Рік тому +3

    Ah, a fellow ルイ友. Birds of a feather and all that. Thanks for the recap/analysis and the all around great advice! This vid will be a solid source of motivation for the people lucky enough to stumble across it, for sure.
    Look forward to more!

    • @waldenperry
      @waldenperry  Рік тому +2

      Thanks, that's what I was going for! BTW how have you found doing clips as a language learning exercise? I actually thought about becoming a clipper at one point lol, but for various reasons I decided against it. It seems like it could be good to make sure you understand the meaning before going and doing the translation and stuff like that

  • @Theywantthedro
    @Theywantthedro Рік тому +2

    I just started a few weeks ago and I’m trying to find the best approach to practice and learn Japanese. I’ve been consuming a lot of UA-cam on people’s journey into learning and their recommended method of learning.
    Big takeaway is making it fun and engaging!

    • @crobatgaming5661
      @crobatgaming5661 7 місяців тому

      how is your progress going

    • @Theywantthedro
      @Theywantthedro 7 місяців тому +1

      @@crobatgaming5661 so far I’m still learning new vocab through Genki. I’m slowing able to recognize some words!

    • @crobatgaming5661
      @crobatgaming5661 7 місяців тому

      @@Theywantthedro great progress how much japanese in main stream media you can understand?

  • @SoC-id8vg
    @SoC-id8vg Рік тому +2

    I just want to really back up one of the points in this video starting at 20:27
    I have no idea why the immersion community is so reluctant to recommend beginners to produce Japanese.
    I watched the "1 year of Japanese Immersion" video first and it repeated a misunderstanding of the theory behind immersion learning that is common in the community: A child learns the language by hearing it over and over again that, for example "this is a chair" and so they internalize that. Actually, children frequently learn the wrong words for things and have to be corrected by adults and THAT is where a lot of learning actually happens. In actual immersion classrooms, half the time is spent on core studies like grammar and vocab, half is spent immersed in the language with a mix of both lecture and practical exercise. I've seen news clippings of Japanese children learning math in English and it's really impressive how well they can speak.
    For me, one of the greatest motivators to learn more and get better is that I found a Japanese native penpal and we became fast friends. But they can't always express what they need to in English and I can't always do so in Japanese. The frustration of such situations fills me with a burning passion to learn more and more.
    Interacting with the grammar and introspecting on how it functions ties into reading comprehension and being able to read more lets me write more and, magically, hear more, and understand more grammar; not just comprehend the language but feel it.
    I've been studying about 3 months at this point and I can express a good number of thoughts with accurate grammar and without looking up words, but I do often need to look up terms to complete my sentences and I always check with ChatGTP to be safe. I watch Mario Maker troll level youtube videos and can generally follow along, though the language is generally quite simple. I'm playing through Rage Loop by my penpal's recommendation and can fallow along, but often with some difficulty.

    • @waldenperry
      @waldenperry  Рік тому +2

      Yea I don't believe the early output thing anymore either, that's just what I was told by refold people and I believed it. That advice was given directly sure, but I also misinterperted their advice about not studying grammar at the start for months too (They were just trying to get people not to spend 90% of time studying grammar like most school classes do, not literally saying don't study grammar). Like most people I went into this with literally no experience besides a B in spanish in high school, if I interacted with the community more or read advice differently i'd be in a different place. But that could have also gone the other day if I went 100% into textbooks like my original plan was. (My real original motivation for starting Japanese was to have a non-computer hobby studying textbooks or whatever, I would've gotten nowhere if I took that literally too). Check out ゴラクバ's mario maker vids too! Their ancient but i watched those at the start

  • @phen-themoogle7651
    @phen-themoogle7651 7 місяців тому +1

    Nice job on the video! I noticed the Japanese-diet did wonders for you (just messing, but on a serious note I almost starved to death in Japan at one point in my life when I had horrible allergies lol but congrats on following through with everything!) . Definitely takes some discipline but good to see you doing/did immersion and not just crazy about anki like some other people that become zombies I've seen. Seems like you had a healthy balance.
    Really clear and organized route. I've been using Japanese 25 years and been fluent for about 20 (did everything you did too or at least showed in this video at some point or another) but it probably took me a couple years to even just get that dedicated like you. It's really cool seeing people get to a high level in 1-2 years, gotta break that stereotype of Japanese being an impossible language (that still lingers in the back of Japanese people's minds)
    And also I sometimes watch videos like this to get myself back on track if I get too lazy, or maybe to find another perspective sometimes.
    Your video is very useful for many types of language learners.
    Good luck to everyone! xD

  • @nika2991
    @nika2991 Рік тому +2

    This was amazing. All the things we can take away from your studying, especially the "make it fun part". Using geoguesser is an amazing idea! I would've never come up with it, inmerse yourself in the culture too even when you're not studying the language per se, brilliant. And it's also so encouraging what you were able to achieve for your health. I always get the feeling I have to put some things on hold for the sake of learning languages, but this was a wake up call, thank you so much. Looking very much forward to your next videos!!

  • @bzz8540
    @bzz8540 6 місяців тому

    Hey, I’ve been learning Japanese hardcore for 4 years, and less seriously since I was very young, but I never kept track of each hour of time. I think it’s really cool you did that

  • @Nikolai.A.McGuire
    @Nikolai.A.McGuire 8 місяців тому +1

    I'm going to tell you a story, I met a German man, and a Romanian man, the German man I met had such good English I thought he was American I was trying to guess which state he was from (He sounded like he was from new Mexico or nevada) and when I asked him, how did you learn English he said "I don't know, I played a lot of video games in English I guess", now the Romanian man, May whatever god he believes in bless his good heart, I understand it can be hard to learn another language but this guys English was so bad, I needed him to repeat every sentence he said over 3 times then I asked him, how did you learn English? he said "I do a lot of grammar drills and duolingo". And this is true and normally when I hear of a person from the EU that has great English they give me a response like "I watch a lot of UA-cam videos in English" or something like that, and everytime I hear a bad English speaker (From anywhere) they say "I do duolingo grammar books and drills". And this story is my reason that I never question the validity of the refold method (It's also what got me into it). I thank both of them for getting me to where I want to be in Russian, if it weren't for them I probably would have quit because I hate grammar books and duolingo, but I'm perfectly fine with listening to something I don't understand, and I thank both of them for this.

  • @rhynemusic
    @rhynemusic Рік тому +1

    Hey! Thank you for posting, have been looking forward to an update video for a while.

  • @jaelncampbell4479
    @jaelncampbell4479 9 місяців тому

    Awesome progress and very inspirational. I have been learning Japanese on Duolingo for about 160 days and want to take it to the next level. I think im going to try the immersion technique and find UA-cam videos about things I find interesting in Japanese and listen to more everyday conversations.

  • @2.0.1.0.
    @2.0.1.0. 11 місяців тому +2

    6 more months for year 3 update, don't disappoint us.

  • @stephsteph4503
    @stephsteph4503 9 місяців тому

    I lived in Japan for 5-6 years and was a decently high level (around N2) but I fell a bit (to probably N3) in the almost 4 years since I moved back to the US. I'm trying to brush up but I also just had a baby, so between watching the Japanese news every day, writing in a bilingual q&a diary every day, reading a news article in the todai app, all of that daily while caring for my son. Speaking, other than speaking Japanese at my baby (I taught little kids when I lived there so I can do mama talk well), I do a 15 minute lesson on cafetalk 1-2 days per week, and I join a meeting with a local Japanese group monthly. I've been doing this just since my baby was born and I am improving fast. The hardest thing is adding working 2 part time jobs soon as I return to work, to JP study, cooking, cleaning, appointments, baby care...

    • @waldenperry
      @waldenperry  8 місяців тому +1

      Not having a family is OP for my Japanese for sure

  • @CooldownCentral
    @CooldownCentral 6 місяців тому

    fantastic work, man! i'm late and i'm sure your year 3 is gonna be much better lol!

  • @marLamaDeo
    @marLamaDeo Рік тому

    I saw your 1 year video way back when, awesome seeing this update!

  • @drderpamine2498
    @drderpamine2498 3 місяці тому

    Thanks for making this!

  • @rivershy
    @rivershy Рік тому

    Pretty nice update vid, keep it up man, looking forward to more

  • @spanishthroughimmersion6694
    @spanishthroughimmersion6694 Рік тому +4

    I am crazy impressed with your progress man. mostly in your weight loss journey. I have experienced a lot of similar things in my journey as well. I try and balance weight loss with my language learning. And I will also stop tracking my hours at the end of this year. I really enjoyed your video man keep up the good work.
    Here is the real question though.
    Can you watch anime without subs?

    • @waldenperry
      @waldenperry  Рік тому +1

      Thank you! Very kind. Probably lol, I don't watch a lot of anime, but I recently watched Bocchi the Rock and absolutely loved it (but with Japanese subtitles, which help me a lot) I should give it a try but I think I'd struggle a bit even still if I couldn't pause or read JP subs.

  • @BeyondMediocreMandarin
    @BeyondMediocreMandarin 7 місяців тому

    Yay, I love these honest self-reflections!

  • @hoppkins
    @hoppkins Рік тому

    Thanks for the tip on KUN. I needed something to watch.

  • @alexalexeich7329
    @alexalexeich7329 Рік тому

    thank you for sharing your experience!

  • @cassc7669
    @cassc7669 Рік тому

    You sure did do it!
    Many of us are studying for years and still not at your level of progress. Be proud! :)

  • @nikohonu9811
    @nikohonu9811 Рік тому

    Thank you for your reports.

  • @slimekanjiquest7536
    @slimekanjiquest7536 Рік тому

    Big congrats on the jp and weight gains, truly inspirational

  • @-NiamhWitch-
    @-NiamhWitch- Рік тому

    Studying the Japanese geography is a really good idea!

  • @RockChampEnglish
    @RockChampEnglish Рік тому

    I watch japanese tv to learn japanese after i finished 26 chapters of mina no nihongo… n started to learn sentences bit by bit. I would keep scanning the textbook , but it’s not my main focus anymore

  • @tohaason
    @tohaason 4 місяці тому

    I so wish I could actually spend three to four hours a day. If I were single and young and... instead I'm not young, I'm married, we've tons of things we have to do every day, I actually have a job.. etc. etc. etc. So I'm lucky if I can get half an hour of listening practice in. Now and then.

    • @waldenperry
      @waldenperry  4 місяці тому +1

      I did my hours with a full time job too but I basically just sit in my room all day watching my japanese escapism content. It's pretty lonely tbh. I assume you don't actually want to leave your family to learn japanese, and that's probably a good thing, so best to find a way to be comfortable with your situation. By the way I'm jealous of the younger people who claim they do 8 hours a day which I can't do. All perspective

  • @nikudnb
    @nikudnb Рік тому

    Grats on the amazing progress and seriously great work on the physical health side of things too! You said that you'd improved your focus a lot. Was that only due to exercise and stuff or did you also do other things to better your concentration?

    • @waldenperry
      @waldenperry  Рік тому

      Thanks! I blocked a bunch of social media on my home network too, don’t think I said that. I haven’t been able to launch reddit in a year, which is quite annoying often but the benefits are so worth it

  • @laeebcitycenter
    @laeebcitycenter 10 місяців тому

    That's so cool sadly I didn't count how much I studied I think I've been studying a year idk I'll start counting ig

  • @EliCastroComedy
    @EliCastroComedy 7 місяців тому

    僕もできた!

  • @SankarshanGhosh
    @SankarshanGhosh Рік тому

    Very inspiring to see that you have been walking and learning Japanese at the same time. Crazy self improvement! May I ask how long a day you walk?

    • @waldenperry
      @waldenperry  Рік тому

      30-60mins I just started doing it because walking was so boring lol, it’s not that crazy

    • @SankarshanGhosh
      @SankarshanGhosh Рік тому

      @@waldenperry And yet you have lost that much weight, that's super inspiring. Thanks for making this video!

  • @aaronyukinoshita
    @aaronyukinoshita Рік тому

    Amazing video and congratulations🎉.
    I had one doubt, do you count in the time to pause, search words by yomichan and mine sentences in immersion time or just the duration when the video is playing?

    • @waldenperry
      @waldenperry  Рік тому +1

      I counted pause time/ time spent lookup up grammar during immersion. That just made sense to me, but some people only logged actual watch time. Depends what the point of your tracking is, mine was to compare total time to my other hobbies/life commitments

    • @aaronyukinoshita
      @aaronyukinoshita Рік тому

      @@waldenperry woah thanks for replying, and yeah, i do the same thing. The other one is unrealistic when you're reading LN because then there'd be no way to remove the time spent on looking up words..

    • @andreascarl9636
      @andreascarl9636 Рік тому

      @@aaronyukinoshita The time spend to look up words also is USEFUL, it is not wasted. Your memory keeps the word in its short term circuitry for the duration, which helps to stabilize it :) One could even argue, looking up words the old-fashioned way, by stroke count in a printed dictionary is even more efficient foe memory building, but it's such a chore....

  • @htsnt8194
    @htsnt8194 6 місяців тому

    Ganbatte!!

  • @malvarrosa1938
    @malvarrosa1938 3 місяці тому +1

    enoguh

  • @anibelltv4306
    @anibelltv4306 3 місяці тому

    I regret quitting Japanese 2 years ago.

  • @Cosmicgardening
    @Cosmicgardening Рік тому

    I was wondering how your reading was so much worse and then I saw your mined word count and it makes sense, I read stuff like Konosuba at the same speed as my (native) girlfriend while missing a few words and the difference is that I'm at 20k words and it's night and day from when I was at 10k words mined.
    She also reads very very casually which helps lol
    All that time listening has got to have been great though I regret not listening enough the first year.

    • @tohaason
      @tohaason 4 місяці тому

      I was so slow at reading for years.. then I started listening to podcasts w/transcription, following the text while listening, and my reading speed suddenly went straight up. Now I can read faster than the audio, so I try to stay slightly ahead of the audio.. just a bit. There are still tons of kanji and words I can't read, but this method also helps for that.

  • @ManuelGolbik
    @ManuelGolbik Рік тому +1

    One 4d practices for advanced people would be ; becoming super advanced in visualizatiion = visualized vocabulary connected with energy patterns sensation of the words ,,,also there was a; I assume study which showed that learning while jogging or learning while bicycling can be much more effective because of the higher heart energy blood oxygenation flow of your body enabling to produce more holistic advanced brain synapses pattern etc etc etc ,,,, 🌌💜

    • @TheEcletickGamer7
      @TheEcletickGamer7 10 місяців тому

      Visualization definitely it's a super power and there's just a bunch of people who talk about that on English learning.

  • @worldwidezoey
    @worldwidezoey 6 місяців тому

    😮

  • @Jethorus
    @Jethorus 9 місяців тому

    Have you tried Satori Reader for reading?

    • @waldenperry
      @waldenperry  8 місяців тому

      I haven’t but it looks really good. I had a super difficult time starting reading so I probably do something like that instead of starting straight with real novels like I did lol

  • @ericksoaresbarretovaz
    @ericksoaresbarretovaz Рік тому

    when listening do you use subtitles?

  • @halinhmaithi1677
    @halinhmaithi1677 5 місяців тому

    Hi, I wanna ask you some questions. But I don't use Discord. Which other platforms do you use?

    • @waldenperry
      @waldenperry  5 місяців тому

      You can find my email on my website

    • @halinhmaithi1677
      @halinhmaithi1677 5 місяців тому

      I didn't find your website@@waldenperry

  • @CosmicAnew
    @CosmicAnew 6 місяців тому

    Steve Kaufmann, his whole deal is that he learns languages through reading, said that the best thing to do is to ignore grammar and things will fall into place. Learning grammar later is important. I think learning what the の practical is great to start with but going to hard on grammar is a good way to burn out

    • @Octane_au
      @Octane_au 5 місяців тому

      Was that in reference to Japanese specifically? I understand what he's saying, because you can get away with dropping a LOT of grammar in European languages and still being comprehendable, but for me, it's been super difficult to communicate with a lack of the grammar skills, and I also think that Japanese grammar is way harder to grasp for westerners. I spent probably 80% of my time on vocab and 20% on grammar in the early stages, but now my lack of grammar skills is the biggest roadblock to communication for me. So I personally would recommend 50/50 approach to vocab and grammar right out of the starting gate. Vocab is easier to pick up the more you use the language because it's basically rote memorization, but grammar requires a deeper understanding to be able to apply it in different contexts etc, so it takes proportionally more effort to learn.
      I'm finding Cure Dolly and Bunpro super useful for grammar, and genuinely fun to learn for someone like me with a more logical/analytical mindset.
      Anyways, good luck with your studies! 😊

    • @tohaason
      @tohaason 4 місяці тому

      He doesn't say that you should ignore grammar. He's more like you should put most of the effort into compelling comprehensive input, and fill in with grammar whenever you get curious about it - and that's IMO the right approach, if there's something which makes you think "how does this work?", that's the perfect time to look at the grammar. So, though I don't think he ever stated a number.. or maybe he did or I don't remember it, but other "input"-style proponents often say something like "95% input, 5% grammar". Of course it depends on background and language. Japanese grammar may look difficult at the start, but explained correctly (I noticed the Cure Dolly reference - yes, that's the right one) then it'll fall in place at some point and from then on it's not really difficult. Then it only remains to look up more rare concepts. I still haven't reached a level where I would need to use that, so I'm not studying that yet.

  • @thegahd
    @thegahd 4 місяці тому

    shouldve given videos where you speak it

  • @chaseleck
    @chaseleck 6 місяців тому

    do those 2600 hours inlcude immersion, study, and everything combined? Or just immersion?

    • @waldenperry
      @waldenperry  5 місяців тому +1

      I break it down in the video lol, it's everything

  • @robr3621
    @robr3621 Місяць тому

    Im sure your japanese is great, but would have been nice to hear you speak japanese in the video, even if for only 30 seconds. you describe your level in english, but why not demonstrate it?

    • @waldenperry
      @waldenperry  Місяць тому

      @@robr3621 I have 2 vids on my channel all in Japanese

  • @redscoutgaming899
    @redscoutgaming899 3 місяці тому

    The thumbnail is random letters lol

  • @CaptainWumbo
    @CaptainWumbo Рік тому

    wowow well done! and that is so wonderful that you were motivated to get your health in a good place too! these are not easy things to do, and I'm glad to see it has made you happy.
    I'm pretty lazy with my Japanese, but little by little it gets better everyday. I'm also a programer and have written plenty of my own software to help me, particularly to read. I think reading is much easier if you know the kanji really well, it certainly helped me. Most words in Japanese are just two on reading smushed together, or a kun reading written with 10 different kanji that basically mean the same thing. Once you see that, you realise there's less unique words than you really thought.
    I'm not an expert, but you may want to consider dropping anki or aggressively leeching/suspending cards. There's not a lot of words you aren't going to see every week if you consune enough content, so the cards are redundant. I personally use srs for kanji and nothing else, and my algorithm is pretty generous.
    Again, huge congrats and thank you for sharing

    • @waldenperry
      @waldenperry  Рік тому

      Thanks :) Very kind. Yea, anki at the beginner vs advanced level is very different imo. A few months ago I set my leech count to like 5 or 6 and I usually suspend at least 3-4 cards like that a day these days, not to mention a few deletions too. I also keep a small backlog and if I run out I just do what I have, like I don't go hunting for more words just for the sake of it. It's as casual as doing 20 words a day can be lmao. It doesn't even take me 30 minutes to do that anymore. I do disagree with the idea of most words you need to know popping up all the time. There are like 5000 of those, but once you get past that it's all dependent on what your doing in the language. I got stuck on 図書館 this week for some reason and when I looked it up I realized I haven't read that word at all in months lol. I guess that doesn't come up in my usual content... but I really should know it. My anki is so random at this point, it's half vocab cards half sentence cards, and then random grammar/kanji cards too. But if your happy with your progress + you like what your doing then that's exactly the place you wanna be. Good luck to you too!